What are your not-egyptians like?
They were a race of furries and they're all dead. The dungeons are what's left of their civilization and undead furries roam inside.
>>88084594They are like the irish.
Sexy
>>88084594Egyptians
>>88084594They're literally not Egyptian, but brits that stole their necromantic technology to become an immortal empire
>>88084594You know: they build pyramids, drink beer, have a surprisingly organized bureaucracy to control their extensive irrigation systems. Normal Ancient Egyptian stuff.>>88084648I spent like 2 minutes examining it and I still can't figure out if that's a real picture or not.
>>88084750nonsummerjack
>>88084750real oufit, fake tan
>>88084594Well, they're kinda like Egyptians, but not
>>88084594A nation of necromancers that worship the god of death and are also essentially LARPING as the original inhabitants of the land they occupy and made the culture they're emulating. They're also a regional power due to free skeletal labor and skeletal cannon fodder in the army allowing the average commoner to have a far nicer life than elsewhere.
>>88084594Still writing it up but they are split into several sorts of kin. I.E kin of Ozymandias, the kin are basically people of a realm and the name is that of an empire or notable Emperor.This is subject to change however as I am still writing up the whole thing
>>88084594they kill furfags
>>88084594Coomer-bait because that's the only way to get my players to not kill everything on sight.
>>88084594mating press
>>88084787She often shows photos of herself in the booth, so the tan is real, it's not painted on or post-production. She does have an editor who touches up her photos, all professional cosplay models do (tho if you check out her videos, the amount of wrinkle fixing and reshaping is surprisingly limited compared to a lof her contempraries).
>>88087921Do note, this stops working after awhile, you get desensitized and just start stabbing anything with massive fucking tiddies
>>88084594Fallen regional Empire. Most of their untouched ruins remain in the deepest most dangerous parts of the desert. Remnants dwell along the modern primary estuary but their heyday is clearly long gone. No more undead mummy rulers, just their former subjects who were human, catfolk, frogfolk, and maybe other folks based on revered animals from the actual real world culture.
>>88084594They're a small country with a monk-like culture, hidden behind the deserts and mountain ranges, worshipping an ancient race of cave-sphinxes.
>>88084594Not Egyptianwhat a dumbfuck waste of a thread
>>88084750It is, there’s a whole set of like a hundred of that photoshoot
They died and got replaced with not-Mexicans.
>>88084594They’re the “Academic” faction. Lots and lots of brilliant minds, libraries, universities, and the origin on a lot of great inventions that everyone else will make use of. But they’re also the smallest and militarily weakest faction, relying on diplomatic clout to keep everyone from killing each other (which they know will spill over to them).
>>88084594Sexy anthro ladies, also pregnant.
>>88084594Dwarfs, who got expelled from not!egypt/not!mesopotamia by the not!turks and now wander the earth as not!jews.
>>88090215Oy vey!
>>88084594Elves. They have the oldest empire in setting andare the only ones who can use magic, because of this they abhor the evolving technology of the other nations. They use their magic instead to build arcane weapons to compete with the more disealpunk devices and vehicles. Strong caste system with the god pharaoh on top and warriors and the army on the bottom.
Inhabiting both the basin of the enormous Hiero River and much of the Great Desert, the people named after the river are strong, hardy, and extremely religious. So strong is their dedication to the animalistic gods, that their nobility uses magical and necromantic powers to transmit what is treated elsewhere as a terrible curse: lycanthropy. Such rituals manage to transmit characteristics of animals to the one who wants to “Ascend”, often with dogs, cats, eagles.Not only such magical powers, the engineer-clerics of Hiero's various cults possess great knowledge of Life and Death, often on their farms using skeletal labor. However, such sorcery requires constant attention, or the creatures turn against the living. Due to the low number of sorcerers, however, it is frequent that several villages in oasis are lost in "accidents", and therefore ruins with great lost treasures are common throughout the Great Desert.Their leader is always a child, supposedly chosen by the oracles to find the purest soul among the Hiero, but the real power is in the hands of the great leaders of the Cults. Whenever the Pharaoh reaches the age of 13, he is raped, mummified, sacrificed, revived and sealed inside a Pyramid, usually in that order. For the clerics, the end of their childhood, and the loss of their purity, enhances the magical powers that protect the country.
They were the first wizards, and of course they studied spells of death and life. At the peak of the new kingdom, during Ramses II reign, a secret obituary cult managed to raise Khufu (pharaoh who built giza pyramid) from the dead. Khufu's heart had been devoured by Anubis after failing the final judgement, so his soul was denied rebirth and he had gone insane in the underworld. Khufu killed all the cultists, but not before they managed to cave-in the entrance to his tomb. Upon learning what happened, Ramses II gathered all official obituary cults and they performed a great spell that closed the connection to the underworld, and so the dead could no longer pass to the afterlife, and all magic dried up. Over a time period of 1200 or so years, the souls of the dead that could not go on, would amass into powerful supersoul beings, which became so powerful they broke the spell, went to the underworld, slayed Anubis at the final judgement, and forced themselves into the Mother Goddess Nut's womb, rebirthing themselves back into the world as the abrahamic prophets such as Jesus and Muhammad.
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>>88084594I’m thinking that elves might be the dominant races of my Egyptian region, besides the aforementioned dwarves and region-appropriate beast-folk like picture related, what other races could work in a fantasy Not!Egypt, with a little tweaks at least?
>>88084594depends what country we enslaved them from.
>>88084594i want to fuck this ankha-expy bitch
>>88084594Not.
>>88084594Well I can tell you this, they aren't Egyptian that's for sure.
>>88084594Their lasting legacy was creating a cult of furry WUZZERS in Not!America
>>88084594They worship a snake deity called Set, the priesthood of Set is very influential within the kingdom and only the landed nobility is able to curb their power. The king uses the rivalry between the priesthood and the landed nobility to keep either side from becoming too influential.
>>88090843>Why yes Scandinavian mythical demi humans rules the not!Egypt dessert kingdom, I am very unique I hate this trope. Like why not have a not British empire that's inhabited by kitsunes? What about an Aztec empire ruled by Djinn? Because it's fucking dumb thats why, it's the lowest form of "creativity" where you just mash things from different cultures together with zero rhyme or reason. At that point you might as well come up with some horendus donutsteal OC race because you're losing also the cultural legwork of using elves even provides. >My elves are native American styled>My goblins are mongolians >My orcs are AfricansI fucking hate this shit so much
Rakshasha-like fiends that sold my not-Persians/not-Arabs on worshipping not-Lillith, which left the sandpeople cursed and triggered a holy war between the not-Persians and not-HRE hundreds of years ago. So now all the sand peoples are cursed Djinn, their land is fucking ruined, and the Egyptian God Cards fucked off east to fuckin' do it again further down the not-Silk Road.
My players were playing a conquering army, when they marched on not!Egypt. At the gates of the capitol, they were greeted by friendly, drunken catgirls. A significant percent of the population of this city seemed to be catgirls who did little more than drink wine and flirt every day. They mingled freely with the players' soldiers, climbed in and around the siege engines, and lazed about on top of the quartermaster's stockpiles. Meanwhile the players began negotiating with the human queen. When it became clear to her the PCs would accept nothing short of unconditional surrender, she fled to the top of a pyramid and rang an enormous glass bell. Every catgirl suddenly became completely sober, and it turned out the liquor was the only thing keeping the catgirls from going into berserker rages. One player's NPC friend ended up losing an arm.
Sadists who get a kick out of locking prisoners in coffins that keep them in a sort of stasis where they're alive and don't need food or water but are aware of the passage of time. I think one of my players was getting off to it.
>>88087999>fluorescent swimwearthat's some next level sluttiness
>>88094402A lot of common white dyes fluoresce.
>>88094402White materials just do that under a black light. The picture is inside a tanning booth, the radiation from those has a similar effect.
>>88084594They are the first civilization to master magic, and thus one of the most powerful. Speaking of, I need ideas on the types of magic that they might specialize in the most besides necromancy, creating golems/shabti, sand manipulation, and maybe rune magic, along with magic item ideas if you have them please. Because I feel like I should have more than I do for that.
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>>88094898How many settings have you made? Rough estimate. All time. Go on. And how many have you finished?
>>88093579CHILDREN'S CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES?
Golden skin, and severely diminished. They were essentially destroyed in a cataclysmic war with another race and forced to leave the surface entirely to live in floating palaces, many of which by the time the campaigns I've ran in the setting have fallen into ruin.
>>88084594I went the Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy route. Just took the canal city of Abydos, plopped it in the campaign as the home base of the Egyptian leg of the story, and rolled with it. A city where people live with beastfolk based on Egyptian animals.
>>88093529>my goblins are mongoliansexactly as tolkien intendedcope and seethe
>>88084594Outrageously narcissistic undead who are mostly not hideously evil but still selfish and arrogant. Also prone to old-people forgetfulness and squabbling over millennia-old disagreements when big boss Settra isn't watching them or sending them back to their boxes for time out.
>>88084594I made my non-Egyptians Dark skinned like Haitians. They include other African tropes. Similar to how people smash European "culture" into French, German, English, etc.They are the trade hub of the world. As my not-Africa continent is connected to the southern pole. Similar to real world north America.
>>88084594My setting have kami-like spirit tied to the land.Usually, people avoid the sacred magical lands inhabited by those spirits, some try to appease them with stuff, a few try to kill them which is quite hazardous even if you somehow manage to pull it off.But in antiquity not-Egyptians instead made deal with them. They build an entire civilisation, one of the earliest of mankind, around pleasing the "gods" living around the not-Nile to earn their boons. The main advantage being having the "gods" serving as intermediary to the river spirit who's too far from human mind to be directly dealt with. Other than that: avoiding disasters, fertility, that kind of stuff. There is also a not-Seth that doesn't like those arrangements and do whatever.But they also got a sweet "fake" afterlife out of it. It's a pocket dimension build by one of the god as part of their deals where people can get in spirit if they receive the right death rites. You may receive those rites if you are nobility or earn them through services in temples, the state or the military. I try to avoid having my not-Egypt just being a "land of the dead", but there are still undead, though under strict laws. Some undead are people trying to earn their place in paradise by post-death service, some are people called back from it for specific demands of the priesthood or the not-pharaoh (like calling back some not-Imhotep to teach and for advices). Other undead are just animated corpses of criminals and enemies that must "atone" their crimes through service (menial work or military). There are some rogue undead too, but undead criminals are treated with the greatest severity.
>>88084594An entire race of jackal-headed people. They consider themselves direct sons of gods Inpu and Input, and so they are quite religiously fanatical.They absolutely hate the undead and, basically, dedicate their whole life exterminating what they see as an abomination to the will of their gods.Their cities are basically massive crematoriums where they burn bodies day and night, scattering ashes around the land. Since they are basically the egyptian-styled church in a bigger, non-egyptian state, they do not need to care much about anything else, as it is provided to them so they can keep doing their job.Their mages are psychopomps, dedicated to guiding dead souls for Inpu to judge.To top it off, calling one of them a "beastman" is a grave offence, as it implies you see a mutant in them, some unholy fusion of man and animal, while they percieve their own looks as none other but the living sacred image of their gods (and they call themselves accordingly "tutankhinpu" or "tutankhinput").
>>88088132Ya, but it's funny to watch the party spare their first succubus.
>>88084594My not-Egyptians are copypaste of your image.
>>88084594A bunch of ant lion riding, javelin throwing, bone wearing, lizard men worshipping the fossils of dinosaurs in their sandstone caves because they think they remnants of their gods.
>>88084594They turned themselves into demons to gain immortality.
>>88084594Mine have a hard caste system. The humans of the society are slaves in all but name. Some are born with animal heads which make up the nobility. They will take any child born this way to their noble clans, which are broken up into differing roles based on their head. Sometimes there's disagreements over what belongs to what.
>>88084594The pioneers of artifice and constructs. Their shabtis were the original golems, and what the rest of the world calls golems are just inferior copies reverse-engineered from some that were stolen.
>>88084594Much like actual Egypt, a grand and ancient nation born from the desert and one of the largest rivers in the world.It is said that the river was born when the highest mountain tore a hole in the celestial vault, right beyond the horizon, and that the gods were carried from the heavens by her flow. They do not built pyramids, but built funeral barges for the river to carry their dead to afterlife among the gods, some of them lavishly decorated and furnished. A couple generations ago, it was invaded and laid to waste. The conquerors crushed the standing armies, slaughtered most of the upper class of society, enslaved the rest and started settling their own people there. The gods have fell silent ever since, except for one.
>>88084594They are just Egyptians, with no not! bullshit. The only weird part about them is stil being kinda-sorta around, because we are playing Hollow Earth Expedition.
>>88107291In despair, some started to listen to the god in the desert, who had no temple nor priests, was given no praises or pleas. It spoke to them of ruin and dissolution, and of the dust of all the great empires of the past. It blessed them with strange boons, so that they could hasten the fall of their enemies by reducing their works to naught. A mine whoses slaves counted servants of the god would run out a collapse. The crops of a farm would wither, the soil dry up and by blown away by the wind. The stones and stone and mortar of a building would crack and erode as if it had seen a hundred summers. The greatest curse would come with the violent demise of an adept, however, as it would cause a brief outburst of enthropy. Troops defending fortifications might see their walls slowly crumble under them as they cut down cultists. It is said the desert crept closer during the first violent repressions. Since then, the empire has been trying to capture the cultists rather than kill them on the spot. First, they would take them to the ocean, far from the coast, and drown them there as there seemed to be no consequences. Since them, it have experimented with another solution, by carrying the captives to the lands of others foes of their empire and slitting their throat there, so that the curse hit enemy strongholds. That's my character. The party found her in a leaden box after ambushing an imperial convoy.
>>88107319So, they somehow ended up inside the Hollow Earth. Is there a passageway to the inside in Egypt, or did they somehow get in somewhere else?
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>>88097139>exactly as tolkien intendedNot him, but can we get a quote on that? Also, how would you make goblins more Egyptian themed? Because a sub-race of desert goblins sounds like a cool idea, and Egypt is a good example to use as a basis.
>>88111591 fennec fox goblins?
>>88111692absolutely terrifying
>>88111591The closest you'll ever get is this line from one of his letters describing the orcish appearance"...squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes: in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types."Funnily enough, however, is that in his letters he was clear that his intent with the Legendarium was to create a mythological framework for an English ideal that was seperate from the elevated realism of King Arthur and Robin Hood (which is why Magic's Black Aragorn is so offensive. It's not that he's black. It's that magic is race-swapping established characters who define the English ideal as envisioned by a man born in the 19th century).
>>88111726If you wanted similar Orcs you even have the Rüppell's fox that is similar to the Fennec but larger, young Ruppell's can be confused for an adult Fennec.Hyena or Boar style Orcs would be other options.
>>88111591BhukaLike legitimately in the Sandstorm supplement for 3.5 one of the player races introduced were a race of less-evil desert dwelling goblins.
>>88111848See the first thing that quote makes me think is he was taking the image of arguably the worst most destructive humans known to history and making them even worse to create the foot soldiers of evil.Not exactly "orcs = mongols" and more "orcs = worse than the worst of humanity".
>>88111941That is a perfectly valid interpretation of it, and from my reading of his letters what I think he meant. But without him to clarify we only have opinions and interpreation.
>>88111867Akira Toriyama perfected the orc in 1992
>>88097139>exactly as tolkien intendedthey were turks, and mordor was the ottoman empire, dumbass.
>>88112538There is no direct allegory in the nations of the war for the ring, and that is why every half-wit projects something different onto the major players.The only allegory Tolkien admitted to is the Christian allegory of the creation myth, and the only other allegory that lines up 1:1 is that the whole story is him giving his three best friends who died in WW1 the happy endings they didn't get in the real world.
>>88113345i know anon, i was just shitposting.
>>88084594They're mostly dwarves and elves ruled by dozens of human dynasties.
>>88114548When your shitposting is indistinguisable from actual arguments, you can't blame me for trying to set you right.
>>88114548>poast some bullshit in here>get buttfucked>ow! I was only - ooh - shitpoasting!!>[please daddy pull my nipples next time]
>>88114597>Egyptian dwarves
>>88084594What things about Egypt do many people trying to include a Not!Egypt in their setting forget?
Did the Egyptians use nails? How can we find out whether they dreamed about nails or not?
>>88084594snakes who were taught engineering and mathematics by fish
>>88120058I would assume they did, I mean they literally named their most important river after one.
>>88084594Hyborian serpentmen who study strange alchemy in order to become immortal.
>>88108028Literally doesn't matter. They are there, that's all that matters. It's like you never played Hollow Earth Expedition or ever read a single fucking pulp adventure short story in your life.
>>88087921Make the first faction they meet worship a slut-goddess/demon and have all their followers be degenerate perverts, led by a big tiddy duplitious bitch.It's how I got them to hate/fear any coomerbait that showed up.
>>88111692>>88111726>>88111867I present: Vulpera.
They're ruled by the first lich who has recently worked his way out of a deep depression and has now decided to make his mark on the world. Horrendously powerful and a very intelligent ruler who would probably be good for the world if he managed to take over. The big thing is that he's the greatest craftsman in history and is extremely hands on in the construction of his army. Sure the magic helps but he'll take a week fussing over the paint jobs on a force of chariots and his plans stagnate to the point where the people he plans to invade can shore up defenses and prepare for his next attack.He doesn't even go all in on the whole undead army thing. Sure he uses undead, it'd be stupid not to, but no one says you have to be undead. Being a mummy is pretty cool though so some people are all for it. Most of the people go on without really being bothered because he takes so long with his plans, they even quietly trade with his enemies sometimes.He's big on the Egypt aesthetic all around, obviously. He's also territorial about it and gets pissed off if people start building pyramids or sphynxes that aren't in his name. It's one of the few things that will jostle him out of micromanaging his army.Long story short he's just a lonely guy who really likes painting his tomb kings army and is trying to get his grove back. He also likes to walk around as a giant, not that it does much for a guy who specializes in magic but it makes him feel cool. He gives speeches sometimes, they last for hours.
>>88123948Gee, I like this one. Not the most competent ruler, but sounds like genuinely benevolent one for some reason. Perhaps, because he also sounds somewhat autistic.
>>88084594A desert nation ruled by powerful queens with vast armies at their disposal.
>>88124464WE!
>>88125212WUZ!
>>88093529>Like why not have a not British empire that's inhabited by kitsunes?The proud tradition of Hunting Foxes takes on a very dark tone.
>>88125470there was also Fox Tossing
>>88097391>Really neat Kush empire era Egypt, Anon!
>>88084594They made themselves part animal, to be closer to their gods. They also have animals they have given intelligence to so they can use them as soldiers.
>>88125229KWEENZ
>>88090978Most of them are still in the nile
>>88124323Mostly benevolent by accident, he'll do evil stuff but only when the time is right. Slaughter, make slaves of his enemies, elaborately planned torture chambers. It's just that people don't really cross his path all that much so your standard tyrant seems a lot worse.The setting is getting kind of dark for a lot of other unrelated reasons so his people are actually doing really well comparatively though. Might be some of the last ones standing the way things are looking.
>>88120283How did the fish learn that? Because they aren’t exactly known for their brains. And why teach the Not!Egypt snake guys the stuff?
>>88094898the unmatched power of the SUN
>>88084594I made some for a setting I never ended up using, basically they live in a place with a naturally occurring curse of undeath, so all the typical mummification stuff is necessary for grandpa not to get up and start choking little imotehp to death, so their religion is also largely concerned with death just like irl, they’re ruled over by a god queen who secretly controls the undead to maintain her power and defend the country’s borders, she’s probably a lich but I never got that far, I also used a lot of arabic and muslim place names because I felt it made more sense for a monotheistic egypt
They're the elves of my setting.
>>88124464>even the marble is black now, instead of white like it was IRLlol
>>88123788These goofy motherfuckers make the Yeerks look like they have their shit together.
>>88084594I just never really felt the need to copy Egypt. Plus, "ancient Egypt" is like a thousand years compressed into one point in most depictions.
>>88137904Yeah, but their spears shoot explosive plasma bolts and have upwards to 10,000 shots before needing to be recharged.
>>88138014Dracon beams are more pointable, you have to give them that, and have surprisingly nasty power scaling effective against organic and inorganic targets. I actually don't remember what their charge capacity is like, though.
The sad part is people actually think they are going to get criticism or a response to their settting
>>88138526I've gotten a lot of usefil inputs when I share my threads. I just pretend to be offended when people call me a shit, then neg them for further input. Their rage often forces them to respond and I mine that shit for gold wherever possible.
>What are your not-egyptians like?Dead for the last several centuries after a blue dragon killed them all and turned their pyramid into his lair
>>88138785If their cutlure was so small they deserved to die. Nice.
>>88138814Ancient Egypt was only big by the standards of its time. A dragon who comes in, blows up the palace and razes the fields is more than enough to merc the culture. They did kinda have it coming because of the death cult but that's neither here nor there
>>88138835>An empire that covered east Africa from the sea to modern day Ethiopia.>SmallHoly historic illiteracy batman. The Egypt whose art gets referenced in all the fetishization of the exotic dark continent is Second Kingdom, which was a good size.
>>88138926breh thats the size of parts of egypt (cuz nobody ruled the sands away from the nile) and ethiopia. it's really not that big.
>>88138990And in this moment you've proven you know nothing of what you speak of.
>>88084594They're not furshit, that's for sure. Go back.
>>88132267Given how important Ra was in the pantheon, I'm surprised that I didn't come up with that earlier, thanks.
>>88138526Well... not really. I just throw my ideas out so they wouldn't stay in my head. I also usually then save my posts in notepad. 4chan for me is really just a motivator to write down what's been brewin' in my head.I did reply to the idea I've liked as well, though... if that counts. I mean, just browsing through other people's ideas is kinda fun, and when I like something, I usually reply and sometimes save that down somewhere in my notes as well.So I kind of like these threads, even though I can clearly see why they are bad.
>>88140404No problem anon
>>88123878I wish you would present yourself as a red stain on a highway instead.
>>88144244Still, thanks. If you have any other insights, don't hesitate to share them please.
>>88114597How do the humans keep power, assuming that they weren’t chosen by the gods like the IRL pharaohs were supposed to be. And if they were chosen, what was the reason for that?
>>88153569Well apparently if i am remembering well the egyptians had a fuckton of gold. (Dont take my word for it) You could probably infer from this that they either are good at transmutation or that their magical artificers use it a lot because of reasons and thus they value it greatly (For more than mere material value)
The entire campaign is set in not egypt
>>88160324My brother in Ra, tell us about it.
>>88160324Yea, I would totally love to hear a thing or two as well. Pulp fantasy not-AE is the best setting ever.
>>88116224How they were the bulwark of Africa, stopping the hottentotts from going north.
>>88084594Oddly enough, this is the closest in my setting to a "nonmagical human empire," except for the savages and small backward states. It is a theocratic state where all supernatural activity is prohibited except for God-King. They often make conquest expeditions to expel the filth of heresy. Their basic classes are the anti-magical cleric and Medjay, a light infantry warrior.
>>88164220Huh, now that is actually cool for a fapbait kind of art. Something just hits the right spot... Her legs seem cybernetic, which adds to the coolness factor... And it overall reminds me of Unreal's non-Egypt for some reason..
>>88164829Oh man, I completely forgot about that chick. Don't you literally kill her for realsies despite her being like, your ex?
>>88165877Yea, and then you kinda go bonkers over her death, pretty much selling your whole non-Egypt to a corporation in order to resurrect her as your cyber-undead wife.
>>88164829I can't find any more of her, sadly. Is this anywhere near as good?
>>88084594They’re half genies who would be unstoppable if they weren’t so weak to iron.
>>88093529You don't even play traditional games.Shut the fuck up and kys
>>88171677Somewhat, but it clearly lacks all the futuristic details, and overall feels a bit less... balanced than the previous one.
>>88175004no u
>>88084594my not-egyptians are a seafaring people that comes from a cold, grassy region in the north far from any major rivers. they don't divinize their leaders, and have a monotheistic religion without animal symbolism.they don't have much mysticism or magic, they burn their dead and consider the preservation of corpses to be sacrilegious. while they recognise the value of gold they culturally don't prize it much and don't use it as decoration. they aren't particularly powerful, rich or ancient, they never build big monuments nor tombs, not even for their leaders.
>>88084594What is their architecture like? Everyone knows that the Egyptians made pyramids and obelisks, but what about other structures?
Elves are cool, but what are some ways that a fantasy race originated from Northern Europe can be justified as living in an Egypt-based region? And how could they be modified to better fit besides making it so that they have features similar to Egyptians from IRL history?
DAS RITEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt-NoLyYD0M
If the Egyptians had used nails, what sort of things might they have made them from?
>>88188421Iron? Some regions of Africa knew how to smelt it since 2000 BCE, and Egypt has lively far-reaching trade network, even with no deposits of their own they could easily import.
