Death And Taxes EditionHere is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate Ruler>Battle Spirits>Ashes>One Piece>The other DBZ gameetc.Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!>Wixoss Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH >Force of Will Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF >Dragonball GT Shadow Dragon saga rulebookhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp>Gate Ruler Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB >Build Divide Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz >Flesh and Blood Pastebinhttps://rentry.org/oypcs>Ashes Reborn Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S>Netrunner Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w Play with /acg/ through voice chat! No text chat so coordinate in thread to get some games in.https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP>Last Thread>>88041635>Thread Question:What are some of your acg pet cards that aren’t great but you still insist on using?
Reminder to one piece bros that we have are own thread now.>>88067318>>88067318>>88067318
And this cat.
Don't care still talking about One Piece here.
I dunno guys, I feel like uzuri just loses to guardian?
so you're saying i draw 3 bolts each round, but have to defend with them too? trash game
>>88067186I'm gonna go with Ebay unironically because I've had good luck. Usually free shipping within 3-5 days or so and the boxes were sealed.>>88066974Okay I'm not cracking for value gambling at all, between sets P03 - P07, which do you think had the best illustrations or character design?
>>88068466I know this is bait, but in a traditional card game with dedicated resources, you'd have to fill your deck with "DEFEND" cards that do literally nothing except block damage. Just a big shield icon with a bold number on it taking up the entire cars.Most card games involve resource management, board state, and tempo, among other aspects. Fab is VERY tempo heavy, but tempo is also the hardest of the 3 to identify without knowing how the game works. Even experienced players won't always be able to determine the game tempo just by a still snapshot. It's unironically the calculus of card games.Fab really tries to emphasize tempo control as the most visceral component of the gameplay. By design, they wanted it to feel like a real fight and have players feel strongest at the start ofnthe game, instead of building board up like in MTG or most other games. So board state is usually about which player looks less fucked up. Resource management is pretty much directly a component of tempo as well.So Fab becomes a game where you have to look at your scenario and derive enjoyment because you found a way make an opponent commit an extra card to their attack for the same result. This can put them on the defensive because they might not have a card to set in arsenal or they have 1 less card to defend. Maybe this forces them to use equipment to defend which is an emergency button to block combos.You gotta enjoy the little things in Fab. I use to be a big Overwatch players, and sometimes a massive play would be forcing the enemy team to walk a few feet too far to the right. Literally just a few steps. Once you understood stuff like that it felt awesome to do tiny things that could win an entire team fight. But I think it's totally fair for an onlooker to say "uh yeah that one dude got 3 headshots" and focus on that.
>>88068323>I swear guys, I'm not false flagging
>>88068820>in a traditional card game with dedicated resources, you'd have to fill your deck with "DEFEND" cards that do literally nothing except block damageScoreZ hypercasual here, and it’s kind of true for how I play the game which is why I like blue and black so much. No “resources” in the traditional sense but still largely dedicated Stabs and Shields.That said, is it that true of other games? I think a lot of UVS/UFS cards have the block maneuvers in addition to being what they are, and monster games that don’t take DM’s Blocker paradigm basically allow units to alternate between stab and shield roles even if they’re shit at one or the other. What games do you think exemplify that idea that traditional resource cards are Just Shields? I feel like YGO traps might, but they’re basically free.
>>88068820>in a traditional card game with dedicated resources, you'd have to fill your deck with "DEFEND" cards that do literally nothing except block damageI genuinely don't understand what you're trying to say here. What is the link between dedicated resources and Defense not able to be an aspect of what a card can do?
>>88068917>I feel like YGO traps might, but they’re basically free.YGO has long stop respecting its three major card divisions. Traps get shafted because you can't FTK or counter FTK using traps.>>88069017I honestly don't get what he is on about either.
>>88069017>>88068917Good chance I might have just been cocainesplaining random jibbrish but the point was to address the op saying "drew 3 bolts but I have to discard them to defend" aka cards being used for both offense and defense.The alternative in context would be dedicated offensive and defensive cards, and I was likening dedicated defensive cards to shit like lands or energy. Cards with a big symbol that might read "Blocks 4 damage" and do basically nothing else. Defense reactions in FaB can only be interesting because every other card could block, which let's them having strong effects. I think there's a similar criticism to Duel Masters, where some players didn't like having to use their creatures and spells as their mana cards, even though it reduces mana drought or mana flood by a huge amount.Part of seeing the fun of a game like this is understanding that your opponent is in the same position. They'd love to just drop those 3 bolts just like you, but they need to be worried about your plans. A good play means you might only use 1 bolt offensively, but your opponent drops 0 bolts on their next turn.
>>88068325Is good cat, make much meow.
How far can you get into a card game without knowing the rules in a tournament. I am going to that battle spirits shit in vegas and don't know shit.
Not a terrible deal, right?
>>88068635>which do you think had the best illustrations or character design?I’m heavily biased towards 07 because they brought some of my favorite LRIG back and gave them decent outfits, but the designs besides those are nice too.04/05 have a lot of standouts to me, both LRIG and SIGNI. Draco, Eclipse Honeyto, Muzica, Hirana (awful card, cute pic), Madoka, Caesar, Satyr, BO, Culelebre, Douman, Deus, and the multicolor angel vanillas to name a few. 06/07 have the memoria SIGNI that are versions of the old LRIG as SIGNI, each with two different arts at every rarity. A lot of them tend to be really good for gameplay too but that’s the icing on the cake since they did a good job with those card arts.
>>88069454>BOBP. Love that artist’s stuff.
>>88069319>Good chance I might have just been cocainesplaining random jibbrish but the point was to address the op saying "drew 3 bolts but I have to discard them to defend" aka cards being used for both offense and defense.>The alternative in context would be dedicated offensive and defensive cards, and I was likening dedicated defensive cards to shit like lands or energy.So substitute "a traditional" with "another" and "resource" with "defenses">in another card game with dedicated defenses, you'd have to fill your deck with "DEFEND" cards that do literally nothing except block damageThat what you were trying to say?
>>88069489Yeah basically thanks, I blame stimulant withdrawal
>>88069499>basically thanksno worries, next time just make sure you have the exact right amount of cocane before posting,.
>>88069454Dope I'll look for the cute. Big reason the game's so based is that even the random Signi cards are usually cute as fuck. I'm proud of this photo lolI just sent an offer to buy a P02 box for $36, wish me luck.
>>88069407Outside of knowing basic rules you can probably do well if you remember to not go overboard with how you spend your cores. Good luck!
https://hobby.dengeki.com/news/1872049/These things are pretty neat
>>88068635let us know how the ebay box is and if you get the sleeper box topper>>88069319duelmasters and hecatomb using any card as mana then having some cards be able to swap or make use and refer to specific cards placed.
>>88070011I can't tell what it does
>>88070978The 06 boxes had actual toppers in them I think. I just can’t for the life of me remember what they were since it wasn’t towels. Hope they get the sleepings too though.>cards be able to swap or make use and refer to specific cards placedLove this idea. Loved accessories in Wixoss because they gave your ener zone so many options the way black got to use the trash. The green decks I make in Diva never really use the ener zone that way but my buddy’s good at building around that.
>>88069444Funny how last year those were "hot" and buying them for $80 was considered a steal.
>>88071001>>88071083They're mini card dispensers, probably a replica of the actual thing.
>>88071054it was the servant foils of the selector infected main LRIGs for the actual box toppers and not the box "bonus" sleepies.ener manipulation really does feel similar.
>>88071175I’ve seen the real things but never used them. Or at least the cardass ones. Cute.
i swear, the success in the west in wixoss is straight up hinging on open!batoru launching.if we get a working sim a lot of gentiles will get exposed to the game, one piece basically had the app as an advertisement, and it worked gangbusters.please openbatoru man, release a beta or something.
>>88071741as much as I love wixoss, the west is too gay and anti-sexy-anime-girls for it to ever be massive. which is why one piece, a game full of sexy shirtless men, is popular off the bat. water turning the kids gay.
>>88071094crashing this marketwith no survivors
>>88070011I mean sure? It can double as a deck box I guess
What's the wincon for Uzuri in c/c? Sure, she can cheat cnc with a red, but basically anyone can block 6 every time just to be sure and she'll never be able to do a single damage.
>>88072358>anyone can block 6 every time just to be sure and she'll never be able to do a single damageIf she's making you waste cards on nothing every turn then she's already winning
I don't feel so sure about some of the "staples" of FAB being that great in the future.Command and conquer and enlightened strike specifically, I feel like some decks just run them as filler to meet the deck size limit.I can see art of war being good long term.I'd say crown of providence is probably going to stay good until it's powercrept in like 2-3 years, but I don't see it staying as some uber powerful legacy card as they keep releasing sets.On the fence about mask of momentum, could go either way.Tunic I think LSS always wants to keep as an option because its pretty iconic but I can see it slowly get more and more sidegrades.Storm striders I feel will always stay good, really ridiculous effect.Stuff I feel is underrated is the generic majestic sideboard cards, like the upcoming down and dirty. It will probably stay relevant as long as they make phantasm heroes.I'd love to hear your thoughts if you have any, /acg/
>>88073023>Command and conquerAs long as there are decks that run defense reactions it will be good. It also directly counters some classes like Ranger (RIP Riptide)>enlightened strike2 cards for 7 damage is already above rate before you consider the flexibility ES offers, it's one of the strongest generic majestics for a reason and I doubt we will get much stronger cards without massive power creep.
>>88073023Tunic I think is in the Arcanite Skullcap position.The card is not too good, but there are no better options at the moment.
>>88073088Maybe I undervalue Estrike, Outsiders feels like they're testing the waters for printing a variety of above rate cards, but it could only end up being a couple cards per talent that get this treatment.>>88073110I agree with this.
>>88071449Oh right the Servants! Thanks for the reminder.
Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Rare from set 9.Thrill RideScout 3. If this command was played from the Cemetery, during this turn, all of your opponent’s units get Power -4000.<Territory> [Legacy - (Remove 1 Blue or Black command from your hand)]
The starter decks for Grand Archive are at one of my stores, is it worth picking up for fun?
>>88074416the arts nice games whatever seems you either like it or dont. may as well to see if you like it.
>>88069444only buy sealed cases, never buy loose boxes.I've opened 4+ cases of each set, and generally it's 1 legendary per case, lose boxes are usualy sold from people who get that legendary and sell the rest.I have opened "glitch" boxes with multiple legendries but they are the minority.if you can find first edition buy those, even if they are 30 bucks more a box.
>>88073155All 3 classes in outsiders were low tier in the meta.Ninja and Ranger got Solid upgrades.Assassins feel like the original design was Contract Arakni with Plague reactions, Contracts, and Recursive Equipment. (a complete package) but it felt too strong in the draft enviroment and potentially CC so they broke the class in half, gatekept strong reactions with Stealth and gave us WE WUZuri.
>>88073023Tunic is a sidegrade for most classes already, it's power comes in it's flexibility, as 1 resource can be used in a variety of ways, I don't think they will ever make something better than it resource wise.Crown of Prov is a bit overrated, for some classes and march ups crown of dominion and skullcap are better.Stormstriders are a singular piece of equipment that wizards are balanced around, it will never be banned again; because when it got banned before kano went to dumpster tier.CnC is a strong card, it's over valued in alot of decks though, for example Assassin, which has LWN, and Inertia tokens now. CNC is just overkill on threatening the arsenal for that class.E-strike is just good flexibility filler, they will never print a better generic than it, but class cards could be.Mask of Momentum and Lynx are good for different situations, Lynx is strong in Fai because you can guarantee 6 damage with it via Lavaburst. Mask is better for non-fai ninjas.I'm aiming to try and main Arakni going forward until they introduce necromancer.Down and Dirty has a really good deck teck with Codex of Fraility on Assassin where we can constantly put it into Arsenal and block out Illusionists with it. and yeah with the Upcoming Prism 2.0 it will be even more relevant.
I'm going to my first flesh and blood prerelease this weekend. I usually don't like prerelease events so I hope it's not too boring.>>88071094Good, fuck investors.
So, how will the future class of FAB will play? My takes:>necromancer>banish cards from graveyard to summon allies>self mill abilities and arcane dmg on the side>cleric>lot of self healing, doing arcane and buffing with auras>alchemist>no idea. Maybe being able to create token of items in the arena or searching for them in the deck
>>88068267Alright I googled this card name exactly with "when summoned" and got zero results. What game is this?
>>88076196Its from "Battle Spirits"
>>88074416What I’ve heard here makes it sound interesting, if a little stilted in the late game. Give it a shot and see for yourself for the change of pace.
>>88071094Poor Sukune, he expected it from the begining, but his failure at the Baiden Pass, only confirmed his fate.
>>88076470Not even the coolest story of L5R
>>88073023Wizard here.You could go as far as arguing that Storm Striders is actually a class, and "Wizard" is just what they write on the cards for flavor. Assuming we don't see downright cynical powercreep, Striders will be a big deal until they (one day) get banned to open up more design space.
>>88076196Battle spirits saga
>>88077525Not familiar with wizards: are the striders that important, being a 1-use? I mean, striking at the end of the turn when the opponent hand is massive, but it works only once.
>>88077832Not that anon, but going from dealing 4-6ish blind vs dealing 10-12ish for a low ball at instant speed, after they committed 2-3 cards on an attack, ends the game pretty quick. I have surprise killed most of my wins with them.
>>88076126>cleric>lot of self healing, doing arcane and buffing with aurasThis would be very frustrating to fight against
>>88077832Nta either but striders is the reason to play Wiz. Shitting damage out of no where hurts when the opponent has already committed their cards.
>>88076126Necromancer>Hero ability lets them discard a card with Ritual from hand to summon a zombie/skeleton/plague carrier dorky 1/3.>Ritual is a keyword that lets you sac an ally for an additional effect.>When a ritual summoned ally is removed, slip a ritual card with more than its hp at death to the bottom of the deck.>Commands undead that get weaker every time they attack.>Can chuck allies in front of it to keep life, but low base hp>Arcane Primary, allies physical, drain effectsCleric>Blitz primary, mainly for PvP of UPFAlchemist>Hero ability lets you banish a card with "potion" in its name from your pitch at the cost of a reagent, to activate its effects to the current Alchemist attack in addition to cost(does not trigger GA) >General theme requires items, or specific material tokens called "Reagents">Alch actions create specific reagents, and uses them through actions.>Physical base, crazy combos, lots of set up, can detonate items like bombs.
>>88074416Casually it's fun, competitively not so much.If you do buy sealed, make sure you draft it.
Is there any computer program I can use to create and test out a card game? I'm play testing my game and I'm realizing how tedious it is to constantly be tweaking stats and balancing everything by hand. I'd much rather just do it digitally so I can figure out what does and doesn't work from the get go.
>>88071741i will try to launch a closed beta some time next month but I don't promise anythingit's almost there but unfinished, right I should still be able to test general stability in a controlled environment while I fix the remaining shiti wish I could just quit my job to work on it 24/7 but I can't take such risks (coping, I'm too afraid to open the IDE)
>>88078949TTS?Untap?But I think both still require images of the cards so I'm not sure how much effort it will save.
>>88076126I think we will get class cards for Alchemist/Mechant that lets them pull Potions, Talismans, and items from their sideboard similiar to the new dagger mechanic.
>>88076126>>88077976>>88078338I think Cleric needs to have a healing gimmick to really feel right, but that doesn't mean it needs to heal a lot. It just has to feel impactful.Personally I really want to see a pure arcane damage class that is explicitly *not* allowed to play at instant speed.My hope is Cleric gets to fill that niche with a healing subtheme. And also gets hot femboy heroes
I got bored looking at the cards in War of the Suns, Force of Will.
>>88079987Nothing fun at all? I only played a few games but the spoilers posted in the threads were at least fun to look at.
>>88078338With the necromancer, you may also have to use hp to attack with summoned undead, to differentiate it from dragon summoning and to synergise well with life-sapping arcane attacks.Not excluding a light cleric and shadow necromancer too
>>88071741I am confident that one of the biggest contributer to Vanguard still standing on its feet in the west is Cardfight Area.
>>88078952Hey man take your time. I am just interested why did you decide to make auto simulator instead of manual. The task to make auto all on your own seems way too overwhelming.
I want a shadow illusionistBlood debt + phantasm so theyre extremely low costed attacks, but if they aren't destroyed by phantasm they banish when the chain closes and start dealing you damage
>>88079964Undoing everything the enemy does is a badfeel, you can have healing, but it needs to be specific, and lower the value of the cards that do it, beyond a grind out style, it doesnt let you do much. Pure action speed arcane is rough too, saying "I am doing 3, GA and 3 more" means you can just pitch 2 blues and outlast their attack without "losing" a card to discard, if they go to 6 or above, and you can't stop it at all without additional prevention cards, which is turbo badfeel.>>88080769That sounds fun. I kinda just threw that together at work, so I am sure there is a lot of cool space in that zone, I just think banish should be a Shadow thing, not a generic class thing, like fuse.
>>88079987Can't really blame you. This sets definitely been a let down following the previous set. The prerelease was garbage because most of the cards don't work without their intended ruler. And the design is very restrictive all around. Ulga's Sword of Progression/Replicant is probably the most interesting part of the set. Definitely not a fan of this super restrictive design philosophy though.
>>88072358Why do you have to banish it facedown then immediately flip it up? Is it like Yugioh in the sense that facedown and faceup banishing are different
>>88081826>snekNeed this.Did their recent story just escalate the conflicts to be about creator gods and shit?
>>88082290Its the usual epic war between who knows what that ends in us moving to another dimension or the fucking dimension being retconned into a new world
>>88078949Cockatrice works too.
The multicolored cards in BD suck ass
>>88082290Seems to be a war between two planets, Cocoon and Solari. Honestly don't know much more than that except the next set will involve Cocoon being able to use rulers from the first set of the game so there's some dimensional shift fuckery going on.
>>88082439In what way? I think them counting as both colors and not going into energy zone tapped is pretty useful for any deck that wants to run multiple colors.
>>88082306>>88082561Wasn’t a fan of how they did it, but I’m still up for Magic!but if they could reign things in. Pipe dream I know but a soft reboot that’s back to basics or at least makes stuff like a second deck resource uniform like will coins would at least get my attention.
>>88080977there are already multiple manual sims, what's the pointI wanted a "better" webxoss
>>88083478Miss webxoss. Between the wiki, just sitting down in my apartment with two decks, and that, it was a big part of learning the game. That and when I had no one to play being able to randomly get a game in once and a while was nice.
>>88083422I wouldn't mind that, but it seems they've been focused on finding something that works and avoiding past mistakes as much as possible. The intense power creep seems to be part of this "reboot" and they're just experimenting with mechanics/gimmicks and distribution to find a sweet spot at this point. Since they made Wanderer the only supported format, there's no real way they can reset and go back in power level. The only way I could see it is reinstating New Frontiers, but with Wanderer being the primary focus, cards will need to continue being pushed AF anyways.
>>88083667Yeah I feel like a real gameplay reboot would require a segregation of formats and probably dumping direct Wanderer support (at least in main sets). But at this point it’s kind of a lose-lose no matter what they do, especially at first when even potentially good changes haven’t yielded results yet. Hard reboot format? Piss some people off and look bad. Do nothing and keep the creep? Look bad. Reinstate New Frontiers? If you don’t use it to feed Wanderer significantly you piss people off, and if you do you piss people off and have effectively done nothing but go back to the last untenable state.
>>88082283Prevents forced discard shenanigans without revealing info, banishing the card is the cost so it's already left your hand by the time theres a priority window
>>88083478To be fair manual options are pretty bad and pain in the ass to either install or navigate. Something in style of Ygopro and manual control would have been more than enough.
>>88081132>but i dun wike pwayin awound dat :3c
>OP already implementing a banlist Lmaoooo Bandai
>>88085371they have their own thread now, no need to summon juan to ban you for non-positive one piece posting.
>>88085371That sucks, but better a ban than letting a shit card run rampant, yeah?
>>88086530kek, the only reason they ban things is to sell more broken shit later
>>88084574For YGO or FaB? Where would there be a moment to interact with the FaB effect?
LORCANA CHADS, WE WILL RISE
>>88087458Genuine Lorcana players will make the population of people who actually play the Pokemon TCG look fucking massive.
It's clear that OPCG is not sustainable so will be posting this here. Vivi sounds absolutely busted.Moby Dick and Cabaji got bannedThe first 2 leaders of OP-04 got leakedViviRed/Blue Leader (OP04-001)5 LifeAlabastaThis Leader can not attack.[Activate: Main] [Once Per Turn] (2) (You may rest the specified number of DON!! cards in your Cost Area): Draw 1 card, then give up to 1 of your Characters [Rush] this turn. (This card can attack on the turn in which it is played).RebeccaBlue/Black Leader (OP04-0XX)5 LifeDressrosaCan't attack[Activate: Main] [Once Per Turn] (1) (You may rest the specified number of DON!! cards in your Cost Area): If you have 6 or less cards in hand, look at the top 2 cards of your deck, reveal up to one <<Dressrosa>> type card and add it to your hand. After that, place the remaining cards in the trash.
>>88088031Eh, if the OP steps up and keeps the thread alive maybe, but like other games I could see posting lulling when a new set isn’t being released.
>>88079288>the new dagger mechanicWhat’s this? I immediately think of the fighting game characters that can throw a knife but have to go pick it back up before they can throw it again.
Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Rare from set 9.Other-world Expedition[Evol - (1W, 1R. 1C)]During this turn, all other players cannot play Commands from their hand. If this was played by Evol, shuffle your deck and put the top card of your deck to the front of your Life Zone.
>>88088031There's a One Piece General, why is this still posted here....?
>>88088217Spicy. This seems pretty powerful to stop non trigger commands. And for an extra cost you can gain a life. This whole set has been putting forward a lot of control based strategies which I like.
>>88088031>not sustainablebecause your posting here instead. fuck off.
>>88088217I’m assuming the other girl next to Liu Bei is probably one of her generals.
Seeing TTS on sale. When you're playing TTS do you have to use a mic?
>>88089950It does have a text chat, but I find it easier to use a mic.
Having a beer and a bite at a local marina before my first of four prereleases this weekend. I'm so excited to play outsiders sealed bros, its unreal. I hope I don't pull amazing ninja cards, cause I'm itching to play the new heroes. What are you doing to pepare for combat, /acg/?
>>88091276I mostly don’t think of the games during the week, and don’t get myself worked up. Just chillin.Unless I’ve become obsessed with a deck I want to try.
>>88082902I mean they just suck compared to pure colorsWhite-RedThe first ace has a very stupid playstyle where you suicide a 6 cost to get an effectThe second one from February I cant even figure out how one wins with its territoryRed-BlackWhile Sakuya is cute her card and playstyle put cards in opponents hand meaning you are killing yourselfBlue-WhiteThe first ace just has a bouncing effect nothing that controllishMargrea on the otherhand needs more field nuking supportBlue-BlackThe omni choice effect needs more broken shit for the first aceThe second Ace I think its called Lyra has a weird playstyle where you erase your grave to get effects but nothing game winning
>>88088174Cards that let you sacrifice a dagger to deal direct damage and cause a "hit" in contradiction of normal rules.Combined with cards that let you equip daggers from your sideboard during the game.
>>88086577There is no moment in FaB. FaB doesn't have interaction.
>>88091276Guess what's in the water closet? My one of my favorite missfired games at the head of the throne.
>>88091772>sexy long haired loli nia laying downthere goes my money.
>>88092586>TCG Nia on a card more real than Nia was in the anime.After all of these years, the pain still won't go away.
is the fab PvE coming out this year?
>>88091857I don't necessarily agree on Margareta, Margeria, Sakuya and Iora. I think those 4 decks are quite capable on their own and can win from the results that I have seen.Iora maybe less so since Vulbabylon is a better option currently than the other 2 but a lot of her Black-Blue cards see play in all 3 builds. And Sakuya doesn't care about making the opponent draw cards anymore because she has so much high power output and control options she can pick apart boards with ease. And she can draw as much as the opponent now so she can get into her combo pieces quickly. One of her cards also negates the whole "sacrifice a life to draw" effect of her territory too. Margeria deals 10000 damage effectively with her and her territory to the opponent's board every turn so I'm not sure she needs more. Margereta is good at generating advantage, building boards and grinding the game out. Everything else I can agree is lacking in some areas and needs more support. I genuinely think Liu Bei has a lot of potential. The territory straight up buffs everything and gives it multiple hits so you can easily OTK. It might be the best OTK deck in the game when it releases depending on what else is shown in the set. Lyra and Yuuma are confirmed getting more support so that should make both of them better too.
>>88092586The SR+ version should be relatively cheap. You'll have to shell out for either the BR or SC.
>>88091276I usually eat something good before a long period of playing teegee. I don't like to eat and game and some times they can go on pretty long and be hard to pull away for a meal let alone a snack. That being said I have a game tomorrow I look forward to. Hope you did well tonight.
>>88093987Yeah it sucks to get to the end of the night and be starving.
>>88093546So we've been told. It's coming in time for Halloween or maybe Christmas is my guess. Also Lorcana will have already blown up by then so card game traffic will take a new uptick. I'm thinking it's a good time to launch a product to hopefully place it under trees as a gift.
Aren't all games just dead once Lorcana comes out?
>>88094757No but it's time to INVESTOOOOOM because Lorcana will bring TCGs back into the spotlight once again.Metazoo unironically single handedly killed the TCg hypewave by being such an obvious front for money laundering that it made all card games look like cryptoshit
>>88094757Wtf is Lorcana?
>>88094868>tfw sneakers and NFTs don't make people buy your cards
>>88094868>>88095599Disney Adults are insane people who will buy the product up like the retarded consumers they are, but no one will be interested in actually playing the game
>>88086577Have you ever played against a wizard hero?For some reason lss designed the game with a billion priority windows and only a few heroes that can use them
Any suggestion for the prerelease for those who attended? Heroes, cards, combos, what to look for... I really want to play Assassins no matter what, but I have the feeling Riptide will dominate in limited
>>88096683One thing to realize about riptide is that there needs to be three things that must come out of your sealed pulls, and that includes decent traps, lots of cards to play from hand to use his effect and arrows that can bring you the win. He can still be played with just two of those things, but that's his ideal set up. Without traps you don't get free damage, without cards played from hand you can't use his free arsenal and without arrows you won't be threatening lethal. If he's dominating an event, it's because he got his trio.
>>88096086So, like Pokemon?
>>88096683Play as many cards as legal, play the pool with a lot of 3 blocks. Everyone does not have staying power, you can grind everyone, avoid getting chunked early.
Today's Build Divide reveal is a Super Rare from set 9 and notably the 2nd type of Yuuma Ace.†Blue Assault† Yuuma<Title: Adventurer>[Evol - (2B, 2W, remove 1 card with the (Adventurer) title from your Cemetery)][AUTO] When this unit is placed by Evol, it gets Power +3000 and (Blitz) until the end of the turn.<Adventurer> [CONT] When this unit deals damage to another unit, double it.
>>88096683SC Arakni is better than Uzuri.
>>88098486>those statsdouble damage is cool but I'm going to need to see more support
>>88086577Basically, both activated abilities on cards and cards have a priority window to respond before they resolve. The interaction you were asking about has the ability banish a card face down before flipping it face up as it resolves. This allows players to respond to an opponent's action knowing there's something coming, but before they know what it is. It gives them a window to react and play cards before potential cards that prevent interaction make it to the battlefield.
>>88096086Yeah but they won't stick around.Game will be dead by set 3, especially at the fucked price point its currently at.
>>88100710You're fucking retarded if you think that. If any game is dying out of the new ones, it's Shadowverse Evolve.
On my way to prerelease number two, this time some place I love. Really excited to play with my group tonight. Best luck to you guys out there, may the reds be ever in your favor
>>88101196Evolve looks fun though
Opened the 1st constructed deck of Wixoss — Ancient Surprise. What’s with the wide-angle card? I need to read the rules to understand the colors, numbers, etc. I’ll need reading classes to read the card text. Also are all the single-deck boxes (1 to 6) always going to have the same cards? No randomness?
>>88101828I have been told that the game is already dead on arrival from store owners and playersThe real question is will Battle Spirits Saga die.Bandai is putting constant advertisements, using influencers, and offering cash prizes but players seem to be generally disinterested
>>88102372With me I don't like how the cards look for Battle Spirits Saga. Feels like they fucking rushed it. High end rarity cards look great though.But honestly how would you handle the launch for the game?
>>88102434I probably would push for store tournaments instead of wasting money on an event in VegasMove all the money from the Vegas Event and just give people structure decks for store tournaments
>>88102282Wait, there are furries in this game? Count me interested
>>88102282You mean the horizontal card in the middle? That's a "Piece" card. In layman's terms it's like your 3 LRIG's ultimate team move that you can activate when you've fulfilled the [Use Conditions] and pay the ENER cost (top left corner, in your case '8')Yes all starter decks have the same cards, no randomness, just like with most games.I think the colors are basically you are only allowed to use cards that are the same type as your 3 LRIGs. So for you, Green, Red, Blue. When a SIGNI (creatures, units, etc.) is destroyed it enters your ENER zone and becomes a 1 time use point of Mana to pay for costs, such as the Piece card. It's like a Treasure token if you play MTG.Also welcome to the coom. Just as a heads up the name is pronounced Wee-cross which is very important to know so you can intentionally trigger other people on /acg/ by claiming it's Wick-aws
Oh, and here’s my full collection:Debut #1-6Welcome Back (Debut #7-8 has 2 decks each?)3 separate booster boxes.
>>88103226>Debut #7-8 has 2 decks each?No that's just fancy packaging.
>>88102627I initially resisted getting all of the decks because some of the LRIGs (girl spelled backwards) I felt weren’t to my taste. But I decided to give them all a chance — and I’m glad I did because some of the supporting girls and LRIG designs I really liked in a deck (Ancient Surprise, this one) I thought I wouldn’t like that much. I could have looked up the cards but I wanted to surprise myself with an initial raw reaction. Glad I did it this way.
>>88102480>I probably would push for store tournaments instead of wasting money on an event in Vegas>Move all the money from the Vegas Event and just give people structure decks for store tournamentsThis is an interesting idea. Have a free "launch" tournament, where everyone who participates gets a starter deck and run a sealed event, seems like a great way to get people into a game.Has any company actually tried this?
>>88102480>free decks to sell online, woohoo
>>88103561Based, same happened to me. I didn't like Muzica at first until I saw another version of her and realized her outfit is hot as fuck.What's your favorite Signi?
>>88098486Wonder where they're going with this.
Fab is cool but it needs more iconic cards like counterspell or lightning bolt
>>88104238It's not a buster so it doesn't activate the territory effect. Perhaps they want you to use him as the main ace to open it and then combo with another buster that will be included in the set. The starter deck yuma might be relegated to a backup ace now. Gotta see what other cards it's getting.
>never comes out
>>88104534>unimaginative nameskinda shit, anon
>>88078952Based. What language are you using? How much are you doing from scratch?>>88080977If the rules are automated and you're good at composition, then implementing cards should be braindead easy. t. works on a popular card game sim. I'm also planning to fuck with them on april fools.
>>88103561>>88104227There are quite a few LRIG that have grown on me over time, even if just to the threshold of me not disliking them.>favorite SIGNIBesides all the potatoes, it might be this bitch. Just cute and I’m a sucker for underboob and surviving big red turns. Morax and Soui are great too.
>>88104534I know KS deadlines are never met, but wasn't it supposed to be like October last year?I get newsletters from them from time to time but last I saw they had just finished printing or something
>>88104816Captchanon...Does it involve Yugioh
>>88105462Sept last year I remember. I also remember thinking it was wildly optimistic at the time so, can't say I'm disappointed.
Holy shit! Outsiders is actually exceeding my wildest dreams. I am in love with this set. The status effect arrows are a game changer, aim support is starting to fire off quite well and there's loads of cool effects to inflict that don't need Aim to function. We've got some more sealed fun to come, but I'm already happy with my pulls so far.
>>88103409Our next deck is actually two deck though, so that’s cool.Still think more regular starters would have been good.
>>88105510Don't tease me FaBanon... this isn't a baito post is it?If you're for real what did you play?
>>88105368Oh my God I love the Maze signi series>Kōdo Meizu BabetawāAnyone n ow if there's any rhyme or reason to their names though?There's clearly a theme but is there any actual flavor behind it? Stuff like>Natural Parasite Queen>Evil Planet>Eternal BeautyOr whatever, I can't tell if there's a schema or if it's random name generator shit
>>88102282https://youtu.be/kqoEYLITOiwhandy quick start guide.>>88103051>not calling it WeakSauce and Glow to trigger yourselfngmi>>88103226hot post pulls>>88104534looks cool and if the kickstarter wasnt pricy random boosters might have bought in.
>>88106219names usually have to do with the class they are in, and what they are based on. ie buildings, the periodic table, historic figures as booba, etc
Her outfit is so erotic>>88106309Wixoss, no trick shotsYour bitch swallows my dick sauceSay it with me:Wix-awwsWick-sauceWhik-auss
>>88106309Lol forgot about this one>tfw a wixsister can't fight because she's illiterate
>>88106352find me art where she isnt flashing her panties : pro-tip, you wont.>>88106361reading is the real way we fight the syob-archy!
>>88103561lrig = girlwhat's the deal with signi?
>>88106617signatures. they are memories "signed" i to the soul of the LRIG when she was still human.
>>88103561All nice and and good, but there's other girls like Koalala? Asking for a friend
>>88103959yes Toys r us had events like this for stuff like Zatch Bell and some other games tooI think it would work better targeting adults and game stores as that is where the community is.If your entire goal is to attract people who want cash prizes and can afford to just go to Vegas to play a card game you aren't really building a community
>>88106202It's some kind of bot (or perhaps a sweatshop marketing stooge). there was a fab post just a thread or so ago with that same vague enthusiasm and identical "exceeding my wildest dreams" language.
>>88107008>>88102434>>88102480I dont see the card art (not even that its anime just that allot looks dated and bad) attracting try hard tournament grinder types fed up with magic, which looks to be who they are going after.
>>88107160I'd assume most went to FAB and even then I don't see FAB players would go for BSS unless it's that Daylon Mack faggot lol. They're doing Gundams as a collab in the set after so thats one way of attracting some people i guess?
Am I sick of magic or am I sick of card games inherently? I'm fairly new to magic but I'm already burnt out by how many cards and mechanics there are, wizards awful anti consumer practices, gameplay of magic being very boring and not interactive, the whole land system is flawed etc.I also hate how there's no real excitement, it feels stale.
>>88107216Sounds like a magic problem.
I played a demo game of BSS lord does this shit suck ass
>>88107216Try FaB! We have traps!
>>88107387you dont like little rolling fish bowl gems all over your cards?havnt played it but whats awful about it outside of memes
>>88105481it's Arena then
>it's your daily anti Bandai-kun campaign
>>88107488it’s just pretty uninspired and boring, out of all the bandai tcg’s it’s easily the weakest imo
>>88107531sell me on them then.>digimon>cool core system, but apparently new cards ruined it?>DBS>good duelmasters clone, but super rare promos and planeswalkers ruined it?>one piece>don is interesting, good foils on higher rares, but one piece art and style is shit and the playerbase seems shit>BSS>big money events, dont know anything else
Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Normal rare from set 9.Festival Girl of the Great Fire Country, Kurukuma [AUTO] When you play a card by Evol, this unit gets Power +5000 until the end of the turn. You may only use this ability up to once per turn.
Build Divide hasn't done anything interesting from Assault territories. They should just drop the main game and focus on Build Divide Bright imo.
>>88107678You ain't wrong with the playerbase for One Piece tcg, Bunch of fucking retards.
Bandai games are garbage because they are uninteractive garbage for retards who don't like when they have to think about what they are doing in a game and instead just want to throw everything on the board.
>>88106202I played Ranger, of course. I've been waiting for a set like this for years and I'm not about to let it go unnoticed.>>88107047You dudes have been shitposting on top of my unironic enthusiasm for the game for years; what haven't you accused me of being except genuine?Yes this set is absolutely fantastic, yes it fixes my favorite class up to be a contender in the coming months and yes I'm going to praise James White, creator of the hit classic card game that I have been enjoying for more than two years. I'm honestly impressed that they were able to mix up the sealed format this immensely while supplying existing heroes to the pool and furthering their archetypal support. I didn't think it was possible that common level cards would have this big of an impact on an already established game of a few years. Thank you for your continued level of excellence, LSS. I'm looking forward to seeing where you take this game in the next three years.
>>88108147You're a genuine faggot.<3
>>88108147It is a good set. Still think ranger has issues though, and I don't know why people are now predicting Aza on top in tier lists
>>88107216All sorts of games to try here if you’re interested.
>>88108215Ranger's still fighting an uphill battle in a snowstorm, but the tools they received in this set (and to a lesser extent Dyn) are going to push them past their current breakpoint. I've always been SO CLOSE to greatness with my current Azalea deck, but now this little bit of juice might be all I needed to make it pop off. Also the only Azaleas you need to worry about are the ones that have been downtrodden for years but unwilling to give up on her. Band-wagoners you soon discover that of course she looks good on paper, followed by misplaying her, and then pivot right back to braindead combo ninja or the latest assassin grindr.
>>88106219It’s based on SIGNI class and color, and uniformly applied to each example.You see stuff like Azure General or Jade Evil, which is a blue Brave SIGNI and a green Devil SIGNI. Then you have stuff like Code: Maze or Code: Eat which are for the Labyrinth and Cooking SIGNI, as the mech SIGNI have “code” in their title the same way the nature SIGNI like Atoms and Cosmos don’t include color signifiers.The SR cards usually have “Princess” or “Queen” added to the title, or some variation like Electronics SIGNI not being “Code: Art” but “Code: Heart” instead while others don’t distinguish SRs at all.
>>88108077>Digimon's memory system is a constant tug of war>Battle Spirits has Flash/Burst cards that permit you to interrupt your opponent's moves
>>88108344What's wrong with Ninjas?
So for the Saga pre-release events, which set of 2 trial decks gives you the best chance to get some cash (I'm not splurging on boxes). Seems Red (Andromeda is sick) or Yellow (just hit them bro) is the best bet. I'll be getting all 4 regardless but still curious as to what you lads think.
>>88108397Digimon has almost powercrept the memory system out of the game.
>>88108405Nta, but fai plays itself. It's pretty brain dead. Katsu and Benji are a little more interesting.
>>88108405Nothing, they're just not that complicated inherently. Really you just follow the recipe on the box with the combo system. Play card with combo 1, 2, effect into 3 is incredibly efficient, and spread out over multiple sources guarantees youre going to do chip damage. They used ninja class to introduce FaB to the world for a reason I think. It teaches us how to attack and block efficiently. Then there's characters or classes that sacrifice efficiency for some broken effect that steps beyond the core concept.
>>88108397>Digimon's memory system>implying it matters when decks revolve around ignoring it
>>88107216Sound like a Magic problem. Many /acg/ essentially have the opposite problem - they're too interactive and that pisses off normies.For TCGs: unironically try FaB if you want something that has a chance of being in a LGS near you. I can also vouch for Wixoss as a game, but it comes with high levels of anime coom and is rare to see in shops even for an acg.It's worth looking into Netrunner and Ashes too, both are more on the "LCG" side and will probably require starting your own group or playing online to get any games in.Yes there's also Bandai games if you're into anime IP pump and dumps.
FaB: Can I defend with an equipment multiple times in one combat chain? If no, then I don't unterstand the explanation of the Bladebreak keyword.
>>88108776Fai is definitely one of the simplest heroes in the game, but the new Katsu has a lot of skill expression in his combo lines where Bonds and a few new go-again middle point combos allow him to freely mix and match a lot of his combo cards to achieve certain goals beyond just big damage. Lots of decision points and if you've never seen a good Katsu player play him, you should.>>88108344Honestly aside from their bad guardian matchup I think rangers are looking pretty good this set. At high levels, Azalea is pretty good into Iyslander (assuming they avoid getting chain CLF'd), especially with inertia tokens at her disposal. Rangers have a generally good matchup into most aggro decks as well, so once Oldhim is out of the picture they're likely to be some of the big gatekeepers of the format.>>88109603The destruction part is on combat chain close mostly just to ensure that everything on the combat chain is tidied up in one "cleanup" step. There's also niche cases where an equipment might get banished instead of destroyed (like in the case of Cyclone Roundhouse) where it might be relevant at some point.
>>88109603I assume not but I haven't played that much yet.I had fun at the prerelease. I played Arakni and tried to do aggro. I only succeeded once and ran out of gas in the other games.
>>88108147How did they mix the set up? I love your enthusiasm cus it makes me want to get started on my ranger deck. I've been trying to find a way to make New Horizon meme for awhile and I'm happy that Azalea is a contender now (wasnt she like nearly unplayable for a long time?)You mentioned status effect arrows and Aim tokens? Would you mind spoonferding me a bit on how they buffed up Rangers overall? I could look it up but you seem like you'd give a great explanation in context of Rangers and their spot in the meta.>>88108190Yeah? Well she's MY faggot
>>88108439Haven't looked through the cards too deeply, but Red does look easiest to pilot since it's pretty much "me big! Fight me now!" the Deck. I think White's Block shenanigans and ways to get cores from the void make it pretty strong, and Fanatech Elk is also incredibly silly. Plus it has some subtle counters to every other deck too. Purple looks interesting to play since it's mechanics bounce off each other pretty well; deal damage using the unblockable cards, enable the effect by removing cores, and kill off the ones that do block you using Curse spirits, though it seems like it'll have a hard time gaining momentum. Yellow's aggressiveness is pretty interesting too, especially since it's the only deck with the "reveal cards, take X cards and discard the rest" effect and thus go through your deck at a faster pace. Yellow could also maybe benefit from the White "refresh all vanilla cards" card too. I would probably go with Red or White I think, though I would also consider splashing Magic or Burst cards from the other colors.
>>88109603>Can I defend with an equipment multiple times in one combat chain?No, equipment stays on the chain until it's broken.
>>88109779Not the guy, but there's a couple of things:-Gave rangers an extra free equipment to start the game with in the form of Quivers. Azalea got her own specialization quiver which lets her put aim counters at the cost of a resource on her arrows that she dominates, while every ranger got access to a "unbrick your hand" quiver and a "remembrance" quiver to fix some of the issues that people commonly complained about.-Aim counter gating extra power on arrows, and a lot of new arrows to improve Ranger's non-aggro matchups. Whereas before Azalea had a massive power gap between her best arrows and her normal ones, the gap is a lot smaller with a lot of unique on-hits to mess with the opponent's turn.-Rangers got a general boost in defense with the addition of new/reworking of existing traps; no block 4s, but they have a lot of block 3+s that improve a lot of matchups. Anti-equipment arrows also help in this regard to help ensure ranger can push critical arrows through when they need them.Honestly Lexi has had no real issue being playable, she's always been mid or mid-high tier (she's gotten more than a few top 8 finishes at high level tournaments here and there). Azalea has been armory tier for a while but the best Azalea player in the world always has done well with her at high level events, though usually just short of top 8. With these new options, Lexi got a very small power boost but Azalea got a big one, so we'll see how that shakes out.
Is the Genis a meme?
>>88109875Yes. Don't bother.
>>88105510Thank you fellow Flesh and Flood player, I will make sure to buy as much Legend Story Studio's Flesh and Blood products as I can!
>>88108893>>88108455That's a flaw of card design, not game mechanic design. At its core, Digimon has a good system. Bandai just fucking powercrept the game to the point of almost ignoring its most interesting mechanic.
>>88110698why do they systematically ruin their own games? what's the fucking point
Just returned from the prerelease, 3h train but was worth it, as limited is very fun and generally prereleases are great events for most of the tcgs. Third with Uzuri, mixed many different cards and snatched a couple of victories with knife based cards. Won 4 packs, got pick related L. In all10 packs, only a single M: some guys was saying that M ratio was lowered, definitely feels like itSet looks great, I think the most fun was the knife based cards, temped to test them in Arakni.On the bad side, I have tachycardia and can't feel a leg, so an heart attack may be incoming. The irony
>>88110707Part of the fun in a game's systems is not just the system itself but also how much you could break the base of those systems while still retaining the game's core identity
>>88110746btw you're supposed to chew on an aspirin if you have a heart attack and you're waiting for first responders
>>88110921>while still retaining the game's core identityhaha yeah
>>88110746safe and effective
>>88110986Dunno, it's all day feeling like that. Night too, so I had a sleepless night yesterday. I'm on my way back, I'll pass by the hospital before going home.Worst case scenario, I've got an L to bring with me on the Shadow Realm
>>88110698>Bandai games are shit!>"uh no actually its a flaw of card design and bandai is shit"Good one dude
>>88111437The game itself is well-designed. The memory system is an interesting mechanic, but Bandai can't fucking help themselves from powercreeping their games to the point of removing all of the fun in their basic mechanics. Digimon is a good game, but the latest cards they've released are not good for the game.
>>88108044Multicolored stuff has introduced several cool mechanics. The issue is the card pool for multicolored cards is still underdeveloped.
One Piece fags happy with princess vivi deck meanwhile i m happy with the original exiled pirate princess deck :)
*ruins your card game*
>>88110746Prerelease was fun for sure. The power level of the heroes seemed pretty well balanced. Well, until I got absolutely destroyed by a Riptide player haha.> In all10 packs, only a single M: some guys was saying that M ratio was lowered, definitely feels like itI got 4 m's out of 7 packs. Maybe someone at your locals kept quiet about their pulls. I wish I had bought some more foil tokens. They look beautiful.>On the bad side, I have tachycardia and can't feel a leg, so an heart attack may be incoming. Anon, go to a doctor.
>>88107758UUUUUOOOOOOOHHHHH LITTLE RED GIRL SEXO
>>88107216>but I'm already burnt out by how many cards and mechanics there areNone of the game's posted here have had quarterly releases for 30 years and I don't think any of them put out disposable keywords like Magic does.>wizards awful anti consumer practicesDon't think any company is as bad as Wizards, but there's still some practices like high rarity staples, ultra low pull rates, blatant power creep that /acg/s indulge in. Not tcg will ever be consumer friendly.>gameplay of magic being very boring and not interactiveMost tcgs have more rules based interaction than the big 3, as all alive ones do to my knowledge.>the whole land system is flawedI can't think of a single game that uses lands exactly as they are in Magic. There are games with worse resource mechanics, like bleach, but none that are exactly the same.
>>88108077Are you from bizarro world? Because you described the exact opposite of DBS.
>>88107216getting sick of magic is just the first step on a long road
>>88112323Stop uoohing for old hags.
I'd kill for a local Wixoss scene I just can't justify putting money into a game where I'd have to exclusively play on shitty ass webcam.
>>88109313>they're too interactive and that pisses off normies.What do you mean by "too interactive"?I've built interaction pretty heavily into the game I'm working on. Essentially anything that gets exhausted can be attacked, and any card that does anything gets exhausted, so doing things opens you up to interaction. Supporting also means that weaker cards can potentially beat over stronger cards, so you're almost never truly safe.
>>88112323thats not how that meme works normalfag.
>>88112295>I wish I had bought some more foil tokens. They look beautiful.The cold foil frailty/bloodpox etc? As far as I know those were not for sale, but given 2x player. At least that's how I got mine>Anon, go to a doctor.No doctors at this time (23 in Euroland), on Sunday especially. I was told not to but I'm heading to an hospital, even if its nothing I'll get some peace of mind, and maybe something to help sleeping
Real sword (even if really low quality) given as part of tournament prizes. God, i wish i had kept playing L5R after diamond edition.
>>88112747>What do you mean by "too interactive"?Not him but casuals/normies hate it when the opponent can interrupt what you are doing too often. That's why they love games like Digimon tcg where you just dunk on your opponent for 6 damage in a single turn.
>>88112798>The cold foil frailty/bloodpox etc?Yeah, I got one set for myself already but I would fill a couple more slots in my binder. >I know those were not for saleYep but players can sell them obviously
>>88112968I guess my game will never be popular with normalfags then. I use a similar round structure to Ashes so every time you do something your opponent gets the chance to do something.
>>88113240yes anon your game will not be a game breaker unfortunately
>>88112747>too interactiveThe bulk of the mass market prefers to have clear lines of play that aren't influenced very much by what the opponent is doing. They want to spin their deck's wheels more than anything else. The classic complaints are either "too thinky" or "too much disruption.Keep in mind this is merely "too interactive" relative to a certain demographic's tastes. I'm not saying you have to cater to the normie audience, or that I think interaction is bad.
That is with out a doubt the most fun I've had at a prerelease weekend in quite a while. This set is incredible for limited play, and I can't wait to get in some games of Draft after it hit shelves. The six heroes felt really good, honestly and I'm glad they went for it. My main reason for liking six heroes is that a lot of people who are coming to the prerelease aren't sure what to play or what's good, so after one game you can immediately sideboard to a whole new hero that's in the same class and try a different approach with very minimal effort. Thinking on past releases, you could kinda sorta do a easy ish hero swap out in Monarch with 2 talents system, but there's a whole core of your cardpool needing resleeved depending on if you change class but stay in talent.The absolute worst to swap out to a new hero with was Tales of Aria with the shared elements and fusing being such a big feature to keep in mind for deck building. But with Outsiders? It's simple. Sort your cards into seven piles. >Class A - B - C - Both A&B - Both B&C - Generics - Euipment/Tokens Boom. You can now count out which pile is the biggest/strongest and consider the inclusion of the multi class pile to bolster the class. Once you have your number, generally that's around 14 - 22 total cards, you begin to count out what you're missing to get you to 30 minimum from Generic pile. Optionally you can select 5 or 6 extra cards you consider good sideboard contenders for specific matchups and sleeve them but keep them out of the main deck until needed. Done. Oh and by the way, you can switch to a second hero with just a few card swaps. Super easy. I love it.
>>88113368>The bulk of the mass market prefers to have clear lines of play that aren't influenced very much by what the opponent is doing.Ah, that's definitely not my game then. I've built in very much the opposite direction. I'll try this in mind once I start opening testing up to the public.
Bushiroad games having their own general just means Bandai has to get picked on next in the pecking order./acg/ is owned by Wixoss and FAB players
>>88113669Hard disagree that fab "owns" anything except WOTC on card stock quality. We can't keep a general going yet, but I have hope there will be enough discussion once PvE launches to float a general. We'll see.
>>88113669>/acg/ is owned by Wixoss and FAB playersHow do you figure? Ever since day one, even with the launch of English Diva, Wixoss have only had a few dedicated posters and half the time we’re ranting at each other or just pointing the new players towards decks. FaB’s got more posters for sure but like every other game meaningful convos dip for days or weeks at a time.I guess besides the games that aren’t dead but aren’t really talked about much here, we’re consistent across long enough intervals but that’s it.
>>88113452I wouldn't say "incredible", but its pretty good, surely better than the other set. A good mtg set will still be more creative in limited, even if power and rarity powercreep is much, much more evident ("i have no tactic or any skill but this mythic bomb I drafted will carry me all games').Also don't play fab or that's how you'll end, irl frailty token
Okay fabsisters, riddle me this.You have something like this>Refraction Bolters>When your weapon attack hits, you may destroy Refraction Bolters. If you do, the attack gains go again.So clearly how it works is simple enough. My question is, how do you know *when* to you use it? And how do you know the payoff was worth it? Is it something you just burn to score some extra damage or is there a specific strategy to it? Let's say it's considered "worth" if I score an extra 4 damage, considering most heroes have 40 health, is it just a numbers game unless they're super low? I can't imagine it feels like a super duper outplay to take them from 32 health to 28.>>88112641>justifyThat's for your penis to decide not you, boyThe cards themselves are pretty good quality so they're nice to hold if nothing else. They can bend a little
>>88114781Just take things easy, man. I wouldn't worry about farming acg cred. I took care of my cousin after major heart surgery as a result of a serious heart attack; it's not going to be a fast run, it's more of a slow shamble.
>>88114801>The cards themselves are pretty good quality so they're nice to hold if nothing else. They can bend a littleI don't care for collecting I buy cards to play a game.
>>88114781what the heck happened to you?
>>88113669I mean what's your game and why aren't you talking about it?
>>88114823He was brought together, in the flesh in blood, through the common interest of great games with interesting people in a sprawling card adventure.
>>88114801With Dorinthea in particular, I'd judge a good Bolters use to maintain tempo or begin a snowball effect on Dawnblade. If you have no follow up from it or your opponent was able to put you on the back foot after its use, then the effect was largely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Half of the benefit of Bolters is the threat of activation, after all. If your opponent doesn't have to play around bolters because you popped it early on, you better have gotten a lot of mileage out of it.The best case scenario is that you are able to line up its use with something like Twinning Blade + Steelblade Supremacy + Singing Steelblade + a blue, but that's rarely going to happen. Against aggro decks, a bolters pop that got an extra counter on a hand that otherwise couldn't is great, or a bolters pop that forced the opponent to block out on a turn they really didn't want to is also great. Against slower decks, a bolters pop that was able to force them out of their comfort zone (leaving them without an arsenal as Oldhim or Iys, for example) or one that puts a counter on your Dawnblade are all great uses.
>>88116080I want to FUCK Piruluk
Playing card games and ends up in the hospital. LMAO
>just bought another Wixoss box>my first one hasn't arrived yethelp
>>88112913Can't wait for the day Yugioh and One Piece events start handing out weapons.
>>88114711FAB and Wixoss are the most talked about here though. Idk why you people are denying it.
>>88109779Well they bumped up the power level on Ranger cards for starters. I will admit, I was anticipating LSS taking an overly cautious approach to balancing. That is of course to prevent archers from suddenly gaining way too much too quickly and blowing up the balance they are attempting to hammer out. That being said, they have given just the right amount of wiggle room to side step unwelcomed ranger hazards as well as serve up some juicy stuff to give them a bit more teeth. Have a look at this absolutely lovely common card right here. Synergistic with a wide range of bows and equipment, 1 for 4 in yellow, pseudo opt 2, can find an arrow to replace itself with Azalea and put this sniper back into your deck. The one thing I love about FaB is that commons can be huge for opening up options for players without requiring a costly chase. Back bone cards like S S are pulling more weight than some majestics even in enabling certain strategies, like 360 no opt tall arrows. I could go on about the commons, like the status arrows elevating the bar to 1 for 6 with aim on a red - the number 6 coming after a good block is how you move mountains - but there's even bigger things to celebrate in this set. The legendaries are both highly playable and one covers up needing to glue Spring Tunic to your chest armor zone. Sunken treasure is a truly impressive equipment piece when you consider the reload mechanic and oh say... a spire sniper trigger after it was already arsenaled? Yes, please!
Won a game at my prerelease even though I felt all 4 were insanely close! I love Katsu
>>88116634I wish I got to see Uzuri's true potential this prerelease. No one I played used her, and when I took up the blade she didn't perform very smoothly with my deck build.
>>88112968"interactive" is a meme. Is chess "interactive"?
>>88116717>Is chess "interactive"?Yes. Chess is very interactive.
>>88116728its turn based, no different then card games. in chess you cant "counter" or "bolt" at "instant speed" a piece before it makes its move. Player A moves a piece, then B does. At no point during player A's turn can B do anything.but thanks for inadvertently proving the point I was making :^) just because you "cant do anything" on a opponents turn doesnt make it "non interactive".
>>88116634I've been seeing Uzuri win a lot of pre releases actually. It's weird.
>>88116717>>88116728All words are memes. A game with low interaction is like a race, you interact through position, where a game with higher interaction is more like wrestling.
card games should NOT be interactiveI should be able to play with my deck for 30 minutes before looking up to see if my opponent won or not
>>881167581. I'm not the anon you were responding to2. The fact you can only take 1 action on your turn is what makes it interactive. You can't do something mid move, but you can do something in response to each action taken. This using Amon's definition you can very often disrupt what your opponent is attempting, thus making chess interactive.Note that nowhere in anon's post did he mention counter or instant speed effects.
>>88116767wrestling with layla
>>88116833they specify digimon which has no interrupt equivalent. so yes, that is what the anon was bitching about.>>88116767good tame.
>>88116758I don’t think you understand what “interaction” means.
>>88116807So YGO times 60?
>>88116881>they specify digimon which has no interrupt equivalent. so yes, that is what the anon was bitching about.Digimon also has very long turns where you can chain actions together. I would argue THAT is what makes it interactive, and that's how I originally interpreted his post.
>>88116934they were arguing it was not interactive anon.>>88116910then explain your take instead of "no u".
>>88116421P07 and I just got a P03
>>88112641People gets games on cock if you don’t want to deal with cam.But physical cards are better, sorry anon.
Why do FaB and Wixoss pair together so well like Wine and Cheese?
>>88116472>The one thing I love about FaB is that commons can be huge for opening up options for players without requiring a costly chase.Besides design, is this partly due to each card having 3 versions for flexibility? I feel like it enables lower rarity cards to be run as a big finisher without relying on a bunch of rares. Like in say MTG mif you want a big boss it's almost always going to be at least Rare. But FaB let's you run a 1 pitch version that still hits really hard, and isn't necessarily overcosted as hell. And the quivers are a good idea. Ranger seems to be mechanic heavy to just use the arrows at all, so I think it's fair to make things a bit more fluid to play with quivers.
>>88116982>That's what makes it uninteractiveThat better?
>>88117040>no responseso your just shitposting. why? cant you do that in a mtg thread?
>>88117084>no responseCorrecting a typo and asking you to respond to the corrected statement doesn't count as a response? Or are you so dumb you think I'm >>88116910?
>>88117102>fixing a typo>assuming others know who posted whatthis is 4chan, try phllebit.
>>88117110Pretend I typed this >>88117102Because your words are way more applicable to you than they ever will be to me.
>>88116988It's more like box wine and cheesecake, but yes.Probably because they both lean heavily on tempo and waifuism.
>>88116984Well, have fun opening them.When any of them show up post pulls.
>>88117135>no uI accept your concession.
>>88117146box wine > actual wine cheesecake > cheesebox wine and cheesecake = GOAT combo
>>88117230>Refuses to engage with my argument>Somehow this means I am concedingAnon, I think your tard wrangler needs to keep you away from the internet. You might choke yourself with the cord of your wireless mouse.
>>88116393>playing card games>ends up in hospitalLMAO
>>88117287This is why friends don't let friends play card games.
>>88116393Scroll up you fucking idiot
>>88117281I wasnt the one refusing. learn to not make typos, faggit.
>>88117390Anon please, I'm worried for your safety. I don't want you to end up like a FaB player.
>>88117463dont worry, I only play Bandai's One Piece and Hasbro's Magic : The Gathering.
>>88117484MODS MODS MODSMOCKERY OF ONE PIECE TCG DETECTEDClean it up, Janny!
>>88117146I do like tempo and devoting myself to characters with 2 to 3 personality traits.
>>88108513What makes them different? Is it the card-specific combos?
>>88117554Don't forget animal ears and/or funny hats. I do love a good funny hat.Not even memeing.
>>88116329Imagine if konami gave winners a duel disk instead of a fucking switch
>>88117577I still enjoy the pantheon of silly hats from time to time.
Flesh and Blood?More like heart attacks & boogers.
Just came back from a Legend Story Studio's Flesh and Blood prerelease event and oh boy was it the most amazing experience I've ever felt in my lifeAs soon as the product hit the table one of the players immediately fainted, admittedly because the game was so fucking goodAs the first draft round was going the wixoss player came that was watching us opening LSS product content came to me and said "I used to coom to beautiful anime girls exclusively but after seeing James White's magnificent trading card game I will now buy this", as everyone cheered and clapped excitementI hope the guy who nearly died is okay though, as I am confident the game will continue growing
>>88117648I know showing enthusiasm about things isn't considered cool, but I enjoy our FaB enjoyer's enjoyment and hope he continues to post.
>>88117020>is this partly due to each card having 3 versions for flexibility?I don't play fab, does the game have the same card in 1, 2 and 3 pitch formats? If so how are they balanced, are the attack / block values tweaked?
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