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>Previously
>>87483200

TQ: What "dead" mechanic do you want to see return?
for me, it's miracle (edition)
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>>87494525
>TQ
Faithful Hour
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>>87494618
Fateful* derp
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>>87494525
Dredge
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>>87494681
How long will we pay for Hogaak's sins
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>>87494525
>for me, it's miracle
>seeing the cringe of players who came after AVR as they realize they added the miracle card to hand instead of revealing
God yes.
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>>87494525
>TQ
Shroud
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>>87495457
this, hexproof is retarded
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>>87494525
>TQ
Devotion, but frankly there are a lot of good stuff they could bring back rather than printing useless one-use new keywords.
I kinda like Echo as well even though it's ot really good. And wish Morph was done well, the payoff should be greater, or it shouldn't be as costly as it is.
>>87494862
Delightful.
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>>87495457
>>87494525
Shroud? I want sunburst.
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>>87494525

Fading. "Vanishing" can kiss my balls
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>>87494525
>TQ
haunt
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I wish I could wrap Thalia in a shroud to keep her safe from attacks. I don't really like playing her when she just gets killed right away. I know it's just a game but it still makes me sad. I'm so tired of living without her, of not being good enough for her. Sometimes I talk to her and imagine she's talking back. I wish I could sleep next to her. No sex, just closeness, and warmth, just to see her smile at my presence. I'm 29 and never had that with a girl. The most I've done is dance with a girl once. I wish I could slow dance with Thalia. Just to hold her and look deep into her eyes in the low light as the soft music plays. Feeling the warmth of her with my hands on her waist god I wish I could kiss her just one time, I wish she loved me but she never will. It's stupid for me to want her when she doesn't exist here on earth and never will. But I can't help it. She's the rock I cling to during my long miserable hours of wagecucking. I try to think of other things but I can't, I just keep coming back to Thalia, the delusion I might somehow be with her someday. I wish I could die in my sleep during a dream of Thalia so my last moments could be a dream of holding her in my arms.
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>TQ
gravestorm
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>>87495649
Shame it’s in the commander precons instead of the standard set
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>too strong for pioneer
>too weak for modern
damn
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>>87492744
It really is. I couldn't stand the literral npcs on /mmg/ getting excited about marvelshit and consuming more product already when Neo Kamigawa came out (horrible plastic set, insult to the original, that gets praised by said npcs).
Utterly cattle behaviour, same kind of people who like the Demon's Souls remake.
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Corruption could be cool when done correctly, laying some clues that something went wrong over time, or that the character is not anymore the one we used to know, but "poof now you're bad" has always been silly at best.
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Why is the next set beneficial for Hammertime in Pioneer?
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>>87496295
because there's a fuckton of equipment matters support in the set
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>>87496245
That would require actual character development and good writing, anon. It's beyond clear now that WotC cares about neither and only will retrace what MCU has alreadt done.
That being said, what came after Infinity War / Endgame?
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sets feel bland since ELD
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>turn 1 seachrome coast, springleaf drum
>turn 2 darksteel citadel, ornithopter, tap it for mana, malcator, purity overseer, make a 3/3, on my end step make another 3/3

pioneer ensoul bros we are gonna make it
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>>87496897
Needs Thoughtcast
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>>87496729
since RTR*
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>>87496295
Skrelv automatically slots into Hammer Time and Infect, does it not?
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>steals your shit
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>be me on MTGO
>had OG lotv from ISD for a long time
>lotv gets reprinted in DMU
>sell my playset from ISD for profit
>buy the cheaper DMU version
>at some point the DMU version gets more expensive
>sell it to buy the ISD for profit
>then at some point ISD gets more expensive
>sell it to buy the DMU for profit again
>fastfoward to right now
>DMU version gets more expensive yet again

wtf bros did I just stumble on infinite money? it's always only 4~5 tix of profit but it keeps happening over and over
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>>87497291
who the fuck would want this version?
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>>87494766
you mean GGT's right?
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>>87497300
I dont know but the numbers dont lie
Im just happy to get my free tix
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I got a stupid question, if you were to say slap a giant growth on something, then proliferate on same turn, can you add a permanent +1 counter on the creature? Do end of turn counters still trigger with proliferate?
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>>87497349
giant growth doesn't add counters, so you cannot proliferate
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>>87497349
giant growth doesn't add counters, it increases power and toughness
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>>87496584
>That being said, what came after Infinity War / Endgame?
All Female superheroes cringe

>>87497279
Based villain
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>>87497034
bard class fuel
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>>87494525
>TQ
Morph
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>>87497279
>>87497396
he was a great villain
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I miss Rebound.
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>>87497627
*Ephemerates your post*
I miss Rebound.
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>>87494525
>TQ
Provoke, loved that ability but sadly I don't think it's played anywhere
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>>87497034
>>87497402
honestly I think it just goes into Gruul Vehicles too
>3 mana 4/4 means it crews both Esika's Chariot and Skysovereign
>pay 1 give it Menace to make combat awkward for the opponent and Vigilance let's keep him as a blocker/crewer
>pay 2 push for more damage or dodge damage based removal at instant speed
>pay 3 to straight up remove an opposing Vehicle or expensive Enchantment
>It's also a Legendary so it lowers the channel cost of Sokenzan and Boseiju
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>>87497710
This dude has a deck in pauper
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>>87494525
Grandeur
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>>87497980
>Mfw every single Heroic player I know keeps forgetting about the Provoke triggers all the time >Mfw I'm one of those players
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>>87497710
Oh yeah, I forgot about it, it's great and pretty vanilla, i wonder why it never became a staple like trample and the like.
>>87497980
I used to play that guy, such a good card.
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>>87496295
this helps
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>Order finally shipped
>There is no way I will get my cards before the FNM
I can either run an out-of-the-box precon or dust off my Lotus shitpile I have never learnt to pilot well in the first place. Skipping this event feels wise I guess.
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>>87496295
This ugly mother fucker swings at you for 1, your response?
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>>87498213
fold
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>>87498213
I concede, too much damage a full 2 in a turn that's a 1/20 of my life
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>>87498213
this will be great with any instant that inflates the Attack, cause basically double damage
say
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>>87498238
or for basically 10 damage on T2
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>>87498238
>this will be great with any instant that inflates the Attack, cause basically double damage
That's why I replied to the person talking about hammer time.

The setup is
>T1 Scamp
>T2 Sigarda's Aid, swing with scamp, flash in and attach Colossus Hammer
If they don't block you just win and even if they do block you just created an 11/11 creature for 3 mana that can deal that damage to your face if you remove it with a non-exile effect.
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>>87498213
Shame it’s not common, pauper is the only format where combat tricks matter.
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>>87498313
I mean, so Standard...every other extended format is where is all about SPEED
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>>87498193
>read this as tits help
maybe my head really is pretty stuck in the gutter
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>>87498324
Having a sex drive is normal, anon. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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>>87498304
Given all the ways that exist to cheat equip it, im halfway amazed hammer not been banned and isntead bans the ways to cheat it
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>>87498238
>flavour text
another quip to the list
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>>87498358
I feel Mono Blue Toxic will be sooo infuriating to play against.
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>>87498304
Why does Arena suck so much. It doesn't have any of those cool cards.
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Old magic was based
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>>87498407
B A T S
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>>87498435
remastered in few months, anon
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>>87498407
This will be a headache in limite
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>frolicking blue chicks covered in oil
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>oil counters are just charge counters
woooow
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>>87498674
Evil charge counters
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>>87498674
>charge counters are just loyalty counters
woooow
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>>87498674
yes, with added flavour
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>>87498701
But this set is terrible flavor with 6 gorillion legendary phyrexians and phyrexians being negroes in cosplay armor now. Koth is somehow fighting Urabrask over everyone else, For Mirrodin! is one of the most horribly named mechanics of all time, and the resistance makes Iron Man suits.
This set is so gay it's unreal.
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Use the Enchatment to stall/ Take the creature Hostages
Drop Phyrexian Vindicator (Fauna Shaman is to Tutot it)
Bushwaack and Tail Swipe to force the hostage to do damage to the Vindicator and Redirect that Damage to the Opponent
Tamayo;s, Tyvar;s Skrelv are to protect Vindicator from Removal. with added extras
Tyvar,s 1Mana protection or XG to inflate a creature that is attacking dealing Direct Damage
Skrelv is Mono color protection and mono color unblockable.


>>87498674
Oil counters should have been the new (nerfed) Toxic, creatures deal damage by a creature with oil counter get a -1/-1 counter.
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>>87495568
Both are too strong for wizard's taste and are slowly being replaced with ward
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>>87498661
ASS
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>>87498725
I wholeheartedly agree
it sucks major balls
but nothing compared to what the future holds
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>>87498747
I actually really like Ward as a mechanic. It lets WotC give the creature protection without functioning as a straight yes/no question. Now if only they'd apply that same mindset to the rest of the fucking game.

>Not got the colours? NO SPELL FOR YOU
>Rest in Peace on the board? NO GRAVEYARD FOR YOU

A little fucking nuance would be great.
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>>87498769
nice bait tranny
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>>87498769
The problem with Ward is that it will be a neverending arms race of conditions when most of them work out the same as hexproof 99% of the time anyway.
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>>87496295
>>87498213
>>87498304
hammertime about to enter the niche of decks that work in all 3 formats (pioneer, modern and legacy) algonside classics like uwx control and burn

>>87498435
>Why does Arena suck so much
because despite everything that has happened until today, arena's number 1 priority still is being standard.exe, everything else is considered excess work and is not taken seriously, the rate at which explorer/historic anthologies get deployed is laughable and that's not even to mention the fact they simply decided to skip jumpstart 2022 just because
sticking to arena in the long term will only make you suffer unless you're exclusively a standard/limited player
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>>87498684
>>loyalty counters are just charge counters
There, corrected you....


>>87498769
Yeah, but to have nuance they needed good designers and they lack those as much as they lack good writers
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>>87498806
Sticking to Standard / Draft only would be perfectly fine - they clearly spend most time and budget on fucking Alchemy and keep trying to force it when it has never had higher than 9% of the Arena playerbase (alltime high, not current users).
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>>87498774
They hated Jesus for he spoke the truth. Play patterns that don't give people a chance to even try and play around them are complete fucking AIDS and outright bad game design. Pic related is in my imo one of the best designs of all time. If you're going to nuke someone's graveyard completely, make it a one shot effect like Bojuka Bog, not a disgrace of a design like Rest in Peace or Leyline of the Void.

>>87498795
At least Ward shows that they understand there's a fundamental issue with blatant yes/no gameplay questions. Now what WOULD be funny is a Stifle reprint in Modern.
>You think your creature with Ward is safe
>Bolt
>Ward triggers
>Stifle the Ward trigger ;)
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Why is maro explicitly scared of -1/-1 counters while also giving us black and white obliterators?
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>>87498876
LOOK ANON IT'S A REFERENCE TO PHYREXIAN OBLITERATOR!

YOU REMEMBER PHYREXIAN OBLITERATOR DON'T YOU?

BUY IT BECAUSE IT'S FAMILIAR!
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>>87498806
>everything else is considered excess work and is not taken seriously
It really just doesn't make sense to me. Like seriously what is their problem? MTGA could be so much, it could be so fucking good, yet they're seemingly pretty lazy about it.

>>87498836
I doubt they put that much effort into Alchemy, outside of maybe the programming side since alchemy cards usually have more complex effects. Every alchemy set has like what, 20 cards? They rebalance 20~ or so cards like twice a year? The only reason people use alchemy is because they have broken combos with historic decks.
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>>87498769
I like ward when it's not a mana cost
Ward as pay life, discard, or sacrifice can play into a larger strategy
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>>87498997
Why do I get this strange feeling that Infect Control is going to be a real thing somewhere?
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>>87498997
>3 mana for a 1/1
>this creature can't block
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>>87499084
It's a shittier castle ardenvale since the tokens can't block. UW won't be running it.
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>>87499098
It's on a land.

>>87498795
How would you fix it then, without just making removal spells bad in general?
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>>87499112
I meant a deck built around Proliferate more than anything. Just tap your opponent once then sit back and play cards with Proliferate.
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>>87499098
but has toxic, it's a clock, it's a wincon
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>>87499132
>just play cards that don't affect the boardstate and he'll be dead in ~7 turns!
Millfag mentality.
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>>87499164
Toxic 1 means it's effectively a 2/2, and opens up Proliferate as an actual wincon. Running Proliferate in your deck also ramps the planeswalkers which control decks love to run. I'm only spitballing but it sounds okay. Naturally you could ask the question of why nobody has tried this before since Inkmoth has always existed and Big Tef singlehandedly wins games through his own abilities, to which I dunno lol

>>87499196
nuMtG player who doesn't understand why lands functioning as a win condition is dumb.
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>>87498213
>Phyrexian Goblin Warrior
>Warrior
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MtG has been around for decades and I often hear people talking (usually complaining) about how much the game has changed. "Old Magic" this, "Nu Magic" that. But as a newer player I'm really curious about Magic's history. What "eras" of design/feel would you break Magic into?

There's the OG stuff, Alpha and the first few sets where WotC was still figuring the game out, I think they were focused on the idea of people drafting a while until they could throw together a shitty deck from whatever they had laying around. Then at some point they made the reserve list, started paying more attention to Constructed instead of it being an afterthought. Then they did some rule changes, out with mana burn and damage on the stack, then later came Modern (the format), and then later came modern design philosophies after Hasborg acquired WotC.
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>>87499212
>Toxic 1 means it's effectively a 2/2
No it doesn't in a ton of meaningful metrics. You can't attack that mite into an actual 2/2 because it will die and not even leave a -1/-1 counter for the troubles because toxic isn't infect.
And dedicating 5 lands to Karns Bastion them out of the game proliferating 9 times is only dumb in the sense that it won't work unless you're at the kitchen table where the other player doesn't run threats.
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>>87498769
>>87499046
>ward - taste the pain
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>>87498997
I actually really really like this card. Any card that makes multi-color decks more viable with less change of wasting turns with tap lands is cool with me and this ability specifically adds a decent amount of strategy to when you actually play it.

What is "sphere" meant to be anyways? Is it just going to be some flavor payoff in a later set? There doesn't seem to be a particular theme with spheres other than all the colored ones being able to sac itself to draw a card. Monument to Perfection is the only card that has an interaction with spheres.
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>>87499245
>dedicating 5 lands to Karns Bastion them out of the game proliferating 9 times
Umm, sweetie? I'm doing it once in my turn then once in yours :)
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>>87499272
>has to have 8 lands before his master plan starts playing out
Sure bro.
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>>87499283
>So new to Magic that he's never played against or even heard of control decks
I'm old enough to remember when the best deck in Standard used Elixir of Immortality as a wincon.
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>>87499263
there's some sphere synergy in the set, I don't think we've seen much yet
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>>87499302
Yeah because it wasn't committing all of its resources into things that don't affect the boardstate.
>Elixir of Immortality as a wincon
It was actually Aetherling, newfag.
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>>87499334
Wow it's like that elf guy or experiment one, but shittier
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>>87499334
Is this not just experiment one but the counters are oil and not just normal +1/+1
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>>87499283
>8 lands
sweetie, i m only playing with lotus fields and a few basics
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>>87499132
You dont even need to "tap" to put a Poison counter, at least not from Blue or Green, both have a 2cmc Instant that does it (Green is a bite and blue is draw a card)
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>>87499263
Spheres are the different layers of the planet, it's from OG Phyrexia
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>>87499349
Cool story bro, what do you do when someone drops any kind of land hate?
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>>87499319
Aetherling came out in Dragon's Maze... You think Sphinx's Rev was a $12+ card for no reasson?
>>87499334
shit
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>>87499319
>It was actually Aetherling, newfag.
Lmao no. Aetherling was just a bad Elixir because Elixir's lifegain meant you couldn't lose to aggro decks. There was literally zero reason to run Aetherling over Elixir, Aetherling was literally blank until at least turn 10. The only people running Aetherling were shitters who couldn't play fast enough.
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>>87499307
I think this card is really bad, you need 9 different lands, even if you can tutor them, that is 9 turns AT BEST (unless some green shenanigans but RNG will be ridiculous)
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>>87499362
>Cool story bro, what do you do when someone drops any kind of land hate?
>Hexproof
Anon doesn't know how to read, cool story

>>87499360
It is retarded to have spheres in new phyrexia tho (i mean, the ones that they did). They did the mephidros into a sphere (a rotting metal land) and the hexplate dune into a sphere too (the void space in mirrodin surface).
No thought put into world building this time around.
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>>87499334
Gruul Oil looking good.
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>>87499399
>hexproof
Too bad your precious wincon karns bastion doesn't have hexproof.
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>>87499408
>wincon karns bastion
>The wincon ins't the planeswalker drawing one more card each turn
Sure bro, you got me on that
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>>87499420
>teferi is the wincon
>entire string is BRO WINCONS ON LANDS ARE BUSTED JUST WAIT WHILE I ACTIVATE KARN'S BASTION TO PROLIFERATE 9 TIMES AFTER PINGING YOU WITH A SHITTY MITE
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>>87499360
>>87499399
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>>87498840
Creatures SHOULD die to removal, though. That is perfectly fine and balanced 1 for 1 gameplay. This should apply to all card types (lands included). Everything needs an answer even if it is a niche one. This is the basis of an actual interactive and strategic game. Magic design since RTR has been way too autopilot.
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>>87498997
Probably the best card in the whole set. I'm happy people are largely ignoring it.
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it ventures into the dungeon!
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>>87499465
They ignored it?
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>>87499495
>Equip cost is more than it costs to ETB with a creature token
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>>87499446
>Everything needs an answer
The problem is when those answers are just silver bullet lines in the sand with no nuance or play to them.
>This is the basis of an actual interactive and strategic game
Rest in Peace has never once promoted interactive or strategic gameplay. The way it works is:

1) Get curbstomped by Dredge game 1
2) Bring in your RIPs
3) Mulligan until you get one
4) Play it
5) Hope your opponent doesn't draw their answer to your answer

Either way the game has now boiled down to lines in the sand. I have an answer to your deck. Do you have an answer to my answer? Do I have an answer to your answer to my answer? You're not weighing anything up or making any decisions here, you're just asking and answering yes/no questions. That is not strategic or interesting in the slightest. This is why Scooze is such a great design, since now you can attack their yard but it'll cost you the mana you were going to use to do something else. What's better, attacking their yard as it is not, or playing another threat? These are interesting gameplay decisions, not just deciding entire games on silver bullets and yes/no questions.
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>>87499509
WotC showing disabled people just how impractical their wheelchairs really are. Based.
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>>87499495
>6cmc 4/4 cripplechair
really now
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>>87499533
it's a 6/6
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>>87499302
Anon, that isn't old. I still have draft chaff from when we were all drafting Theros. Also, that deck was cancer and fuck Huey Jensen for popularizing it.
>>87499319
>>87499372
>>87499379
You're all wrong. Nephalia Drownyard was the big standard control finisher. Then came Aetherling, then came Elspeth. Elixir typically ran 4 copies of Jace, Architect of Thought and 1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion. Elixir gave inevitability protection. It wasn't considered the main wincon of the deck.
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>>87499510
Thus the beauty of sideboards: you only get 15 cards - how do you use them?
There is no such thing as an unbeatable matchup. You get to decide what your good and bad matchups will be based on deck construction. Dredge and Burn are great examples. Powerful decks with powerful silver bullets. How many of them are you likely to face? Do you take your chances? Do you play a non-standard build to try and catch players unaware?

All current card design is focused on casual / Commander and best of 1, which is why it really sucks. FIRE design is only partially part of the problem.
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>>87499561
>Do you pick rock and risk losing to paper, or do you pick paper and risk losing to scissors? So many interesting decisions to make!
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>>87499495
>Battle-Chair
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>>87499561
>There is no such thing as an unbeatable matchup.
Cap.
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>>87499495
Is the rider black, gay and autistic
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>>87499635
it's WotC we are talking about
of course she is!
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Equipment in standard sucks so fucking much, fuck why are they so bad. This set attempted to put in a lot of equipment cards except they're SO over costed for no fucking reason. Does WotC just hate equipment or something?
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So is bant infect back on the menu in modern? Or does it still get friendly fired too hard because of all the maindeck removal ran for ragavan?
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For once I am excited for drafts
Oil and Toxic in Limited seems to be more fun mechanic than Powerstones and Domain
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>>87499814
It do
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>>87499635
That's only the tip of the iceberg anon. You think xhe only has two parents? Haha, how naive and bigoted of you.

>>87499790
Maybe Infect could start playing as more of a tempo deck instead of being a wombo combo? Drop Glistener Elf, keep the unblockable/flying threats, drop some of the bad pump spells and bring in new cards. Poison counters have the huge upshot of not losing to casual lifegain.
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>>87499635
>autistic
At least this one actually represents the mtg playerbase.
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>>87499790
Infect can potentially go 4c because of the seedcore and cavern of souls on phyrexian as per new errata
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>>87499933
Plague Stinger as copies 5-8 of Blighted Agent maybe?
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>>87499924
no u
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>>87499510
>Rest in Peace has never once promoted interactive or strategic gameplay
By shutting down strategies that tend to be uninteractive, it incentivises people to play (or include) more interactive gameplans.
I like the move towards milder answers that wizards is doing too, but i still think harder answers can be important.
>>87499665
Some of the kamigawa stuff is alright. Double strike guy, haste guy and the sword that steals abilities are all quite decent.
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>>87500000

Checked and keked
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>>87499510
RIP is just a shitty leyline of the void for decks with no black
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>>87500193
What has having black in your deck got to do with LotV?
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>>87500193
>RIP is just a shitty leyline of the void for decks with no black
Even decks with no black run leyline and hard mull for it
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>>87500229
>topdeck leyline
>can't cast it
>die from embarrassment
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>>87500356
>Topdeck Leyline
>It's turn 3
>You died 2 turns ago because you didn't have graveyard hate in play
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>>87500379
> doesn't want all his leylines on the table
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>>87500400
I want my Leylines in play before I die, not after. This does not require me to play black.
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>>87499380
It’s a commander card.
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>>87500356
>He doesn't mull down to 2 for his lotv
ngmi...
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>aggressively mulligan for Leyline
>end up with a 4 card hand
>well 3 cards now but at least leyline is in play
>they blow it up T2 with assassin's trophy
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
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>>87500533
That only means you were going to lose regardless of what you did since your opponent had the answer to your answer whether you drew it or not.
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>>87500621
>he has the gayline
>cast force of vigor for free
>start furiously gyrating crotch
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>>87499432
It is still retarded because og mirrodin also had layers between surface and core. (accessible by the lacunas)

The mephidross (dross pits layer) is literally an area of rotting metal that is transmissible (ie: can infect all metals making them rot, even metals from mirrodin inhabitants), they also did the dross to be part of the contagion agent of og mirrodin by making its fumes a gateway to semi-compleation (creation of nins). And to be fair, there was a bit of a underground phyrexian network going on in the mephidross, but moving that whole region undernearth is retarded.

Mirrex is the former hexplates from the glimmervoid, it was literally the og Argentum surface before memnarch terraformed the planet to be life friendly

Furnace layer, Surgical bays, Mycosynth gardens where all in og new phyrexia soo those are ok.

All in all they fucked all of it just to have the "glorious façade" being the surface layer, and imo that is retarded.
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>>87499495
Mirrodin is probably the only plane where becoming a cripple was a real issue (because there was limit of how much most healers could do) but even soo i really hate this.
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The year is 2023
Tabletop is simultaneously more socially acceptable than it has ever been and more embarrassing than it has ever been
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>>87500941
The conclusion is that society is embarrassing.
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>>87500825
kek. Why wouldn't their god just heal them? Who the fuck would worship a god that could cure their paraplegia?
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>>87501082
>Why wouldn't their god just heal them?
martyrdom?
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>>87494525
> TQ
Untap is an under-explored design space.
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>>87501133
Who/what are they benefitting by being in wheelchairs? Wheelchair craftsmen?
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>>87501138
I love that silly little mechanic
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>>87499790
>>87498358
>they got rid of Jace's hairy pits from the recent comics
it's over...
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>>87501082
>Who the fuck would worship a god that could cure their paraplegia?
ehh?
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>>87501262
Whoops. that could cure their paraplegia but doesn't?*
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>>87501252
The phyrexians shaved and feminized him
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>>87501082
>implying wotc staff have any idea about lore on the game they work
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>>87501309
wait a second, bigot
that's ableist and problematic
shame on you
do better, be better
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>>87501309
Clearly this is an evil cleric doing a horrible ritual
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>>87501349
I can't imagine anyone hating or having any prejudice against wheelchair dudes, but also can't imagine anyone choosing to stay in a wheelchair if they could be cure. It's weird, inclusion with this like this seems almost mocking.
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>>87501359
>>87501359
Nah it is the image for cure serious wounds/ressurection. Jozan being the classic cleric player character from dnd 3e (in third edition they made iconic characters for most classes, those would appear in arts)
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>>87501309
it has been there since Alpha
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rate my jank
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>>87501368
>can't imagine anyone choosing to stay in a wheelchair if they could be cure
There are religious sects that refuse life-saving blood transfusions, organ transplants and so on.
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>>87501428
Not really a fair parallel. The gods in the realms provably exist, directly interact with their worshippers and grant magic to them as well. In the Forgotten Realms, if your god is lame, find a new god.
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>>87501402
Interesting but probably won't work. Why not Firebrand Archer instead of Thermo-Alchemist? What's your mana base?
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>>87501402
>If all you've done is replace 1 and 2 cost red spells with 1 and 2 cost red spells, you haven't built a deck, playing standard mountain tribal.
Bleh

ive got something similar in mind but with vindictive flamestoker, reckless impulse/ big score for card draw. but with Capricious Hellraiser to go over the top. I want more burn.
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>>87501544
>Why not Firebrand Archer instead of Thermo-Alchemist?
It's a standard deck
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>>87501632
Standard? What's that?
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>>87501632
Yeah I realized that after I posted
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>>87501368
My nigga never heard of the frankfurt school. *chuckles*
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>TQ
Flanking.
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>>87501871
SOVL
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>>87501871
>Cast Knight of the Holy Nimbus?
>Resolves
>Cast Pithing Needle?
>Resolves. Naming?
>Knight of the Holy Nimbus
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>>87501871
>>87501903
Time Spiral had so much SOUL
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any new decent tit edits? quite parched again by now
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>>87501997
Yeah espeically in white, they got the post apocalyptic fantasy aesthetic just right.
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>>87501871
I love this art
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>>87498436
>Emporer
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post more Time Spiral kino
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>>87502185
Man, I wish I could have drafted some Time Spiral.
Such cool abilities, no matter the card rarity.
And the art.
Nowadays, that art would be him a few meters away from the camera, with a generic face photobashed onto his body and hasty-made digital-looking shadowbolts coming out of his hands.
But here, this guy? Even if you had not read his past lore, you know better than to fuck with him. It's classy, yet threatening.
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>>87502154
WTF
T
F
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>>87502185
Christopher Lee vibes, even though it doesn't really look like him.
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>>87502263
exactly this
I was fuming when I saw when they did to evil Mirri in TSR
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>>87502185
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>>87498436
>>87502154
Did they outsource proofreading to India?
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Is cockatrice still the best place to play magic for the free?
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>>87502336
YOU RECOGNIZE THE WEATHERLIGHT BAZINGA
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>>87502467
HAHA BIG FLOPPA GO RAWR HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>87502459
xmage is better
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>>87502336
>has to be in the air to show flying
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>>87502482
I want to play pauper does xmage have a good population for it?
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>>87502502
how does a cat fly?
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>>87502511
sure although you could just play mtgo in that case
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>>87502548
I plan on playing lotus petal for BR reanimator which is currently uh, 20 Tix a pop no thank hombre
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>>87502531
The same way a vampire does, duh
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>>87502531
They put Flying on the card and Cat in the type line
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>>87502336
Jesus christ
The art, the M15 frame, the legendary top. I hate it all.
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>need to buy 4 wishclaw talisman
>find a seller on an auction site selling a playset for 1/3 of the price on online stores with free shipping
He isn't selling anything else I want and I feel bad about just ordering the four.
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>>87502660
Bro wont care he's selling cards independently and wants the cash
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>>87502531
Magic
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is Stifle too strong for modern?
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>>87502964
People will tell you that Stifling a fetchland is too powerful for Modern without realising that the prevalence of 3+ colour decks is half of Modern's problem.
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>>87497164
>>87496327
>>87498193
>>87498213
>>87498806
Can I finally replace esper sentinel with a card from the new set?
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>>87502964
at this point? probably not, but it's definitely not showing up in standard, it's too narrow there
we'll see it in some modern horizons set at some point
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>>87503050
>Can I finally replace esper sentinel with a card from the new set?
Do you want to lose?
MH2 card >>>> Standard card
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>>87503050
in modern? not a chance, esper sentinel is so fucking good in hammertime it's not even funny
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>>87503050
Why would you replace one mana Thalia with anything?
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>>87498436
>his or her
Wow acknowledging basic reality is so heckin' based!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykFqLUFExSM
Cute gril.
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>>87503167
Not watching your fucking content.
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>>87503167
>randomly click in video
>this deck didn't disappear because of MH2
>starts naming MH2 cards that killed the deck
cool
no one cares about modern horizons block standard anymore make pioneer videos
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>>87503177
>>87503203
That's right, that's me. I'm also Magic Aids, The professor, Maro, Harrymtg, Saffron Olive and a few more. Now like and subscribe.
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>trying to get some insight on pioneer heroic or lightpaws auras
>things like should I slowroll casting the Lightpaws until I can either cast an aura that protects her or pay 1 for Alseid's effect
>go to youtube to try and see some gameplay
>fuckall results
Youtubers are so fucking worthless.
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Expect more stupid fucking “card synergies” in the future. Every deck will be a tribal deck by the time they’re done commanderfying this game.
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>>87503281
A 15 minute talking video just takes a little research, then 15 minutes of talking.

Playing a league requires hours of playing the game, recording footage, editing, and that's assuming you do well on the first league. If you're trying to shill a shit deck you might have to play a ton of leagues to get a good result.

>>87503309
I don't care or mind. Just make sure you buy a set of every Arcane/Splice card now before they revisit the mechanic and break the game.
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>>87503251
I rated your video 5 stars, that'll have to be good enough for you.
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>>87503335
she is twenty seven
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>>87503309
>Every deck will be a tribal deck
I hope so, Onslaught was the GOAT block.
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>>87503335
It's okay, you're a hebe.
>>87503382
No way.
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>>87503384
Lorwyn too
In hindsight the best blocks had strong tribal matters
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>>87503309
>by the time they’re done commanderfying this game
Memes and shitposting aside, why is /mtg/ so hellbent on hating commander? The overall game is steadily heading towards it being the premier form of playing mtg and if it's the competitive aspect that you crave, both duel commander and leviathan exist with robust banlists and a community not afraid to ban format warping cards.
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>>87503435
singleton meme format
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>>87503455
>meme format
The meme has become reality.
Accept it.
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>>87503493
nah leave it to the filthy casuals
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Oil counters seem like garbage, is it just me? Either doesn't have a way to recur oil by itself. If it does, it requires you to either tap or the oil ability it has is weak. And more importantly DIES TO REMOVAL. So any permanents that rely on you building up oil for some powerful effect can easily get wiped right after spending those taps and/or spells.

If this set had more protection then it might be fine but we're in a removal heavy meta.
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>>87503513
define casual.
>inb4 muh tournament scene
mtgtop8 acknowledges both cEDH and duel commander
https://www.mtgtop8.com/format?f=EDH
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>>87503556
>define casual
The RC who rule the format ban cards based on their own opinion of good or bad with next to zero data informing their decision. One of them has been hellbent on how broken Norn 2 is, because almost all of his removal is ETB effects. He also says things like he'd ban entire deck archetypes if he could get away with it simply because he thinks they're unfun.
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>>87503556
>cEDH and duel commander
small fraction of a largely casual format geared towards fags
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>>87503554
>Oil counters seem like garbage, is it just me?
its a standard set
its supposed to be bad
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>>87503554
The set might've benefited from an Ozolith style artifact (or even just an Ozolith reprint and say the Phyrexians stole it or something) to support the archetype, though maybe it would've been too much with all the proliferate around.
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>>87503625
>its a standard set
>its supposed to be bad
haha turn 4 mindslaver
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>>87503435
duel commander is an abomination
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>>87503647
hey, at least kaladesh was good, and it was back when boosters still cost $4
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>>87503647
that card does not see play anywhere that matters, its too weak
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>>87494525
>TQ
creatures with persist, for my 5 color EDH persist combo deck. Also I think it's a fun, flavorful mechanic thats more balanced than undying. I did appreciate the nod in the card 'persist', but it unfortunately doesn't help enable my infinite combos.
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>>87503693
It ruined standard along with pic rel. The format was absolutely miserable. So don't hit me with that "hurr it's supposed to be bad because it's a standard mechanic". Energy as a whole was fucked and ushered in the newer design mentality of everything gets value thanks to the likes of rogue refiner and whirler virtuoso.
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>$30 for a chance at a foil noble jester dog kraken hyper-mythic with the new botulism mechanic?
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>>87503712
>it ruined standard
standard does not matter
if you play standard you deserve everything bad that happens to you
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>>87503731
why? modern rotates now and so does legacy because the only cards not on parity are the lands and cantrips
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>>87503712
>Energy ... ushered in the newer design mentality of everything gets value
Excuse me?
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>>87503595
Sheldon's RC and his harem of faggots have no say in 1v1 commander.
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M-modern?
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>>87503870
>he's starting to move the goalposts
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>>87503281
>>trying to get some insight on pioneer heroic or lightpaws auras
>>things like should I slowroll casting the Lightpaws until I can either cast an aura that protects her or pay 1 for Alseid's effect
do you already own the decks or are you researching before you buy into them? because this is the type of thing that you learn pretty fast by playing it yourself
I don't mean that as "just buy a deck already" it's just that the answer is never set in stone, it depends on matchup and you usually gotta *feel it*
for example, I consider myself an aggressive heroic/auras player, I go for it more often then I should and sometimes it backfires big time, but most of the time I get rewarded by it
you kinda learn to have restraint the more you play it, it's what I'm trying to say

if you have any other questions I'll try to answer them the best I can
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>>87503921
Not any specifics off hand, it'd just be nice to see some decent gameplay. I'm trying to determine if I want to go with the auras or heroics, and I'm leaning towards heroic because it seems more consistent.
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>>87503876
Horizons...3
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>>87503983
can't wait for next rotation yay
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>>87498324
Tits? Not on that card
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>>87503966
>I'm trying to determine if I want to go with the auras or heroics, and I'm leaning towards heroic because it seems more consistent.
I would recommend heroic if you just like taking more game actions and playing a good combination of reactive + active player
auras can be consistent too but a lot of games come down to your opponent having the answer at the exact right time or not, it's not like this doesn't happen to other decks but it's more noticeable with auras
auras is also more enjoyable if you like making gigantic creatures, it's hilarious how big light-paws can get off of 2 auras fetching ethereal armor and all that glitters
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>>87503731
Why do people pretend other formats are good. The only good part about other formats is the proposition that you have a lot of cards to use which means a lot of unintended cool synergies but the reality is the meta boils down to those 5 or so top meta decks that are just ridiculously hard and unfun and you either play those meta decks to have a chance of winning or you only play casual games with people who purposefully avoid top decks because they know they're not fun.

Standard might have some really annoying cards but the meta is still healthier than every other format.
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>>87502336
>Leg skin out
Yikes!
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>Nearly every ONE card revealed
>Neither the official MTG card preview page nor scryfall have every card up
This really fucking bothers me. Why is WotC so fucking lazy?
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>>87504048
>La Belle Époque/Art Nouveau but seen by a protestant country
Bleh.
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>>87504151
What is the difference between post-revolutionary France and protestant countries?
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>>87494525
>TQ
rampage
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>Jace TMS got unbanned in modern
>people lost their shit
>it did absolutely nothing
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>>87504399
he did see a little bit of play up until mh2 dropped
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>>87504399
After LotR, Oko will be safe to unban
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God this deck was unreal. It feels so good to be the asshole casting a planeswalker in limited
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>>87504122
scryfall isn’t owned by wizards
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>>87504618
I don't buy this whole "LotR will be the strongest supplemental set in Modern yet" it feels much like it's going to be like the Commander Baldur's Gates set, a bunch of lower powered cards with a few gems you can count on your hands (Minsc and the Rare Initiative creatures for example) specially since they said this is a product that happens to be legal in Modern as opposed to a product that was designed specifically for Modern.

They set the bar really high with MH2, only MH3 is going to deliver the same effect.
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>>87504122
I do not undersand corrupted!!!
Why would I play cards that don't win the game through poison counters if they get a boost from other poison cards!!!

Oil counters look really slow!!!

I don't care if proliferate is a set mechanic I don't like planeswalkers at rare!!!!

Toxic is not a good rework of infect and making a commander deck around it is stupid!!!
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>>87504399
>people played slash panther in vintage to kill jace
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>>87502013
Waiting for more of the new art in decent resolutions. There won't be nearly as many for each set going forward.
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>>87499244
Checked. Here is how I would organize MTG eras in a general sense and then some of my opinions on them.

1993-1995 Wild Magic: Basically shits fucked up and based/redpilled at the same time. Game was designed to just be this side thing where people never had access to every card and that informed design. Garfield knew many of these cards were broken but if your random deck could only have a single Mox then it's just not a big deal. There is a reason there is only one card in the Boon cycles that's a Rare. No 4x rule in the very early days of Magic. Power level is all over the place. Creatures are very weak relative to spells, the latter of which are still some of the most broken cards in the game today. Kino but messy.

1995-2003 Premodern: Just like the format, this era tones down the power level on some things... um, sort of. There are still a significant amount of mega broken cards during this time(Will, Academy, Necro, etc), all of Saga block, Tempest, lots of very powerful cards. However, after some bannings (ok, lots of bans) and the release of Invasion MTG hits its stride. Invasion is the beginning of modern card design and philosophy. Invasion forward is when Limited started being something they tested and designed for.(Technically I think they started thinking about it around Mirage/Tempest but the first great format that holds up today is Invasion) Gone are the days of COMMON Rolling Thunder and Pestilence ... but there are still some exceptions, lol at Sparksmith at common in Onslaught, Gameplay is a lot better. R&D gains a better understanding of what makes cards broken. Gameplay is pretty good. Blue, like in the early days, is still KING. Look at the blue spells available in Inv/Ody Standard, most of which aren't even in Modern. Creatures start to catch up to spells also starting around Invasion.
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>>87499244
2003-2012 Modern Magic: Marked by a controversial frame change, this era is bookended by some very powerful decks- Cawblade and Affinity, though the latter was certainly far more broken, even without Skullclamp. Gameplay and card design would be mostly recognizable at this point and the color pie is more or less set in stone. Broken cards, sans a bunch of stuff in the obligatory broken artifact block, is pretty good and bans are way way down as the designers figured out certain problematic mechanics and pitfalls to avoid. Standard is overall pretty good in this era. Era is named after the first set in Modern format, Mirrodin.

2012-2019 Postmodern Magic: RTR is when shit really starts to hit the fan. RTR Standard is pretty good but soon afterward there are a lot changes that make the game worse. They somehow make the card frame fucking worse by fucking adding that shitty black bar at the bottom. Standard goes down the shitter with mana being too fucking good and easy in Standard making the decks all very homogenous, a problem that still continues to plague Standard to varying degrees. The story sucks fucking cock bc the Gatewatch is boring as shit and the writing is garbage. Standard balance itself gets far worse because of questionable design decisions e.g. pushing marquee Mythics too hard like Emrakul 2.0. Modern comes along early in this era and that's a pretty cool format so that's nice. Commander picks up steam here so that's nice too.

2019-??? F.I.R.E. Magic: Not much to say here same problems of pushing the face cards of sets too much, rampant powercreep and smoothbrain designs. Garbage story. Infinity Commander shit. Standard is dead due to corunka and too many unbalanced formats and bans whose justifications sound like they're coming from a person trying to come across as intelligent.
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>>87505173
I have to believe this may be a partial meme in history considering giant solifuge existed and was better in every way, it's not like people weren't playing volc island and trop island back then
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>>87503309
Synergy based strategies that aren't just goldfishing into a combo are more satisfying and interesting in gameplay than decks that are just piles of good cards.
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>>87505232
Slash Panther being an artifact and available to be used regardless of deck colour were factors. It was still very niche tech, though.
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>>87505232
Not in shops
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>>87504916
Never claimed it was.
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I just ordered all the parts I need to build Lantern and Twiddlestorm
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>>87499541
Drownyard was absolutely based. That was the last deck I played in Standard that I really enjoyed.
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Remember what trannies took from you
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>>87505347

I can't fucking stand it.
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>>87505213
>>87505198
I'd like to correct the first era to 93/94 out of respect for the best 60 card format in mtg

I think the second era went more into end of ravnica/time spiral, I know people like to cut it off at the card frame change but mirrodin plays a lot like onslaught and urza's saga and a lot less like shards of Alara. Also the story was pretty dumb, Apocalypse happens and they're like, cool we just ended this total invasion being set up since the 3rd set in the games history, where should we go next? Uh how about a different continent on the same plane with no reference to the rest of the world? They barely even bring up Otaria in Dominaria modern

I'm pretty sure we called the post mythic era new age prior to FIRE Magic, shame really it started with these new mega rares that pushed gameplay and by the end we were getting bulk mythics that might as well have been rare. Innistrad was good, Zendikar was fun, Khans was amazing I don't care if Rhino made standard a midrange fest.

FIRE magic in theory should have been another rennaisance but it was clear bt the time Origins was rolling out that they were losing it in terms of production value. Remember when the gatewatch got formed and then took out all 3 Eldrazi titans in one year? Eldraine to Ikoria standard was such a shit show, literally every deck I picked up gott banned
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>>87502372
Legacy staple Blood Knight
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So why is Modern Horizons bad?
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>>87505480
It instantly added a bunch of deck defining cards, mostly at mythic, that pushed out former staples and with a limited print run and at higher prices it instantly made modern more expensive at well.
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>>87505480
It isn't. Just pay up, goy.
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>>87505420
Wildfire Emmisary for a 50% discount.
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Do people still actually enjoy Modern? I played it a bit when it was first created and enjoyed it. I came back to magic after a long break and imo the format is just unplayable. It's not even because they are forcing "rotations" with their modern horizons sets, the gameplay is god awful and the decks are shitty. It lacks any form of soul. Decks are basically designed by Wizards choosing unfun mythics to push in MH and didn't evolve naturally due to weird interactions or classics from old standards teaming up

Old Modern vs new Modern is the game version of this
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>>87505516
>Extended vs Modern is the game version of this
FTFY
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>>87505525
Extended was alright but had its own issues. OG modern did improve on Extended in my opinion but I can see why others might feel differently. Extended's idea of a rotation was fundamentally problematic for a format like that.
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>>87505551
>OG modern did improve on Extended
It did exactly what you dislike about "new" Modern: Kill a soulful format to create a soulless one and sell new cards.
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>>87505604
Old Modern was fun and soulful though. Tons of decks were viable and many had true soul. Extended was also a good format but I liked modern more.
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>>87505626
>Old Modern was fun and soulful
LOL
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87498840
You're nothing like Jesus, faggot.

Any mechanic can be good or bad, weak or strong, depending on what it is bolted on to. Ward is thrown on too willy nilly, just as hexproof started to be. JOTC has a employee problem and a management problem.
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>>87505347
Expensive San Diego Comic Con promos?
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>>87505480
There's something to be said about making sets that hard cater to specific decks. While some cards absolutely shat the bed others were great designs that couldn't really show up anywhere else.
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>>87505626
>Old modern
>Turn 3 tron
>Turn 4 splinter twin nearly 50% of metagame
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>>87504168
The deep ingrained puritanism still lingers in burgerland and some countries.
Gore? Good
Tits? Bad
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the best magic artist ever
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>>87505347
>only playmat in her store that's relevant to a deck i play is pic related
>it's not actual magic art
I still want to get it but $51 shipped is heavy. Also I wish Mercadian Bazaar was a playable card or the art was used for a basic mountain.
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>>87505769
just get the one you like the most, it doesnt have to match your decks
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will we ever see miracle return as a mechanic or is it too toxic for constructed?
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>>87505733
>witness
Subtle. Real subtle.
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>>87505626
forget dude, wait a few hours, he will be bothered and will start to post the "new player here" posts or thalia shilling or pedo playmats
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>>87505747
Sexual liberation leads to trannies. Violent liberation leads to military victory.
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>>87503556
1v1 Coomander is vintage for slightly smaller whales. Pauper is the closest living format to what Magic is supposed to be, but Gavin and company will erode it into having the same shit gameplay as every other format, just cheaper.
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>>87506309
this
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Will I get kicked, kicked out of my LGS or otherwise harmed for using this playmat?
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>>87505516
>the gameplay is god awful and the decks are shitty
What is wrong with modern's gameplay? It's actually pretty good when you get over the money barrier
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>>87501301
You're a kid now you're a squid now
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Myr rush kekekekeke
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>>87506309
Kys pauper shill
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>>87499953
Mostly for the crusader
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>>87500000
Based Xenogears Quints
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>>87507659

>>87507659

>>87507659
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>>87506170
No, "sexual liberation" by frustrated autistic kids ingrained in protestantism led to trannies. We had none of these freaks before it spilled from the USA over here.
It's all a matter of hypocrisy, and puritanism has always be the leader on the matter. The problem is that they are now using our "sexual freedom" to spread even more.



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