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Side cut Edition

>Previously, in the Mortal Realms
>>86821007
>It's balance scroll time
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/10/27/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-metawatch-unpacking-the-new-battlescroll/

>Points update
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/22/a-big-balance-update-hits-the-mortal-realms-as-war-comes-to-gallet/

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/

>Tools:
warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/
Reused Art Edition

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

>Thread question:
How do we give Skaven depth?
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>>86834703
I wonder if liberators would have looked better if a few of them had female builds. The sacrosanct units have that and the female models are nice because they're a little leaner than their male counterparts.
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>TQ
We don't
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I gave my stromfiends chest the warpgrinder because a chest Gatling gun is Lord of Khorne tier stuff
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how do we fix khorne? is there even an army out there with a worse designed battletome?
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>>86834717
We have Vanquishers now, liberators can rest.
New book when btw.
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>>86834730
I don't know. I don't know where they should go with it. I think it might be helpful to look at Fyreslayers for pointers on how to make their army work but that doesn't actually solve anything.
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>>86834730
Abandon the concept of a synergic army for Khorne.

Divide the Blood Points in 2 tables of effects.

Boiling Rage and Explosive Fury (which is on the warscrolls of the unit).
The first represent a slow and continuous anger, the second represent the sudden and impactful anger.

When building up Blood points, you get small but universal and incremental bonuses for your army from the Boiling Rage table.
At any point you may decide to expend all the blood points to activate the Explosive Fury.

Every unit have an Explosive Fury ability on the warscroll, with a number value. That ability activates only if you spend that many points.

For example, you decide to spend the points when you had 5 Blood Points.
That means that the Wrathmongers Explosive Fury 3 activates (Wrathmongers are quick to anger) but the Blood Reavers one (which is a 7, but more powerful if it gets off) doesn't.

That way when you build your army you can build it over getting stacking bonuses fast for the Boiling Rage, play for quick anger or play for bigger but harder to get bonuses with high tier anger, leaving options open for subfactions to specialize too.
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>>86834703
Define depth
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>>86834797
6ft under.
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>>86834797
the distance from the top or surface to the bottom of something.
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>>86834703
>TQ
No.
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>>86834717
wave 1 sce is such a nightmare but the underworlds revisions look fine imo
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>>86834791
Also, Daemons have a lower Explosive Fury while Mortals have generally a higher one, to represent that Daemons are made of anger and used to it, while mortals needs a lot more to get to the point, but when they do they surpass what Daemons can do.

This is made so you can still play a mixed army with no real issue if you prefer a balanced experience, but you thematically are pushed to one playstyle or another, which is rewarding and simpler to play for people that like to play Mono-Deamon or Mono-Mortal.
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>>86834703
> Skaven depth

I play rats, we don't need that shit. Skaven are at their best as Saturday morning cartoon villains.
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Leaks


5 Snarlfang Riders 120p
12M Sv 5+ B 4 W 2
Stabbin 2’’ 1 4+4+ 1
Snarlfang’s jaws 1’m 3+ 3+ 2

Boss lopa +1 attack
Horn blower +1 to run and charge
Glareface standar charge and run

Smell weakness +1 to hit if target is wounded

Stabbin stikka in charge -1 rend and +1 damage

Toxic bite 6+ to hit 1 mortal wounds in addition

Ferocious pounce can fight within 6’’ and +3’’ pile in
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>>86834703
>TQ
Skaven lore "depth" should just be an utterly byzantine political mess of backstabbing, petty revenge, and assassination.
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>>86834939
>Same cover art

Fucking GW can't afford a JPEG, jesus christ.
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>>86834939
* all have Grot bow 18’’ 1 4+ 4+ 1D
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>>86834948
Only real factions get new covers.
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>>86834939
Its Looks nice if true!
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>>86834948
>beast of chaos get new coverart out of pity
>nighthaunt doesn't despite saving the entire game during soul wars
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>>86835059
I can't be angry about BoC getting stuff, they've had it rough for so many years.
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>>86834717
>The sacrosanct units have that and the female models are nice because they're a little leaner than their male counterparts
They also have robes that gives them a more paladin like look instead of the ground marine stuff.
The mages will always be the best stormcast units tho.
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>>86835085
Still weird that you can take damn near any SCE unit as battleline except for the evocators.
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>>86835085
I wasn't a fan of the dracolines on release but they've grown on me recently.
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>>86834939

Pretty sweet, does the smell weakness rule only apply for melee?
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>>86834717
No, the classic liberators/ prosecturos/ retributors (paladins) are fine the way they are. Femcast coomer coons can fuck off.
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>>86835118
Dude the Liberators look ass even compared to every other infantry unit in the army.
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>>86835111
Yep melee only No bonus for bows
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>>86834939
Universal cheap and fast cavalry fine for me
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>selling fast
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>>86835154
Shitcasts will never be popular like space marines, we get it.
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>>86835154
Håll ditt skitbrevande i styr, du skämmer ut oss.
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>>86835163
gw doesnt seem to get it
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>>86835154
>zipzop zobbitybop toy currency

Opinion instantly disregarded.
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>>86835176
They actually do. People like to pretend that stormcasts are just as bad as space marines but they really aren't. There's a lot of ways that I could explain this but the simplest is probably just a question.
Have we even gotten a new stormcast model this entire year?
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>>86835176
>gw doesnt seem to get it
If that was true Stormies would be every other release instead of the once an edition thing they get at present. They still make an effort to make them the posterchildren for the game but it's pretty obvious they're not pushing them nearly as hard as they do marines in 40k.
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>>86835154
link?
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Remember when they used to release whole new subfactions in the tome celestial feature in WD? That was nice.
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>>86835210
They might go back to doing that once they run outta shit to update in the Tome Celestial.
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>>86835201
https://www.alphaspel.se/37-regler-startlador/143100-age-of-sigmar-dominion
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>>86835189
People over here really doing realise how oppressive Space Marines are in 40k. They get releases in some form almost every 3 months (more if you count shit like Horus Heresy, which was made to specifically add in more Space Marines) and are involved in literally every event that happens in the setting.
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>>86835223
don't realise*. typo.
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>>86835154
>soul wars was available for years and nobody cared
>dominion didn't sold out a d people lose their minds
Are people retarded? Its a starter set that is suppose to last the entire edition.
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>>86835223
Jesus christ, rember back in 1e when they sold upgrade sprues for various stormhosts and they stopped doing that before 1e was over cause people didn't want space marines 2?
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>>86834791
interesting idea, but id say its way too complex for analligance ability. also, you'd almost never have enough blood tithe points.
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>>86835229
Nah we were over this as recently as the tail end of last thread. It really doesn't matter, shitposters gonna shitpost.
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>>86835229
The 40k starter set before that one sold out globally in 30 seconds so that's the new standard for "Acceptable".
Nevermind that GW actually had to do a reprint of that set, which was supposed to be limited edition so they clearly were aware they needed to produce more, or that dominion was the first product to come out where GW implemented the queue thing on their webstore so scalpers couldn't scalp easily, or that the 40k set that came out AFTER that one also didn't sell out instantly, or that GW said it was one of their better selling fantasy starters.
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>>86835229
If it's normal and nothing to see here then why is it heavily discounted everywhere?
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i think the krulboyz are cool boys
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Let's fallow the existing plot ques and have Teclis's physical body die. Now imagin Nagash steals the corpse Teclis from under Light Hologram Teclis's nose and makes the elf zombie into a Mortarch as a mockery. What would his Mortarch title be?
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>>86835255
Clearly because the GAME IS DYING HOLY SHIT AND AND FANTASY IS COMING BACK AND JOHN BLANCHE JUST DROP KICKED THE SJWS OUT OF THE BUILDING AND PRICES ARE GETTING LOWERED OH MY GOD
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>>86835245
It's kind of a weird way of playing team sports. Like if the box sells out and the only way to get a copy is at scalper prices, that's great. But if everyone who wants a box can get one and maybe even at discount price, that's bad. It just makes me think they don't even hobby.
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>>86835260
Nah.
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>>86835255
Cause all the fucking webstores and LGSes thought it was going to sell like the 40k set that came out before it (IE instantly) so they bought like 30 copies each.
And this actually ties into a bigger problem in the games industry as a whole where certain companies, Wizards of the Coast will deliberately underproduce a product on launch day so it's in higher demand, so they probably were a tad surprised when they ordered 30 boxes of new thing and actually fucking got 30 boxes of it.
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>>86835260
Mortarch of dumb pants.
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>>86835260
Mortarch of the crippled
Cause remember, Teclis is a fucking turbocripple who canonically can not move without using his own body like a magical meat marionette
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>>86835269
>Wizards of the Coast will deliberately underproduce a product
Incidentally they were recently lambasted by Bank of America for overproducing their MTG products.
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>>86835265
GW is walking a fine line. They don't want everything to sell out in one minute like cursed city did because people get pissed but on the other hand they want to nurture the FOMO/ I-need-to-buy-it-now-before-it's-gone mindset.
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>>86835269
>so they bought like 30 copies each
From talking to one it's the other way around. GW strong-arms them into ordering a minimum quantity of stuff they want to push. If they say no they get retaliated against.
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>>86835277
It's a weird situation with wizards and magic. I don't wanna get into it too much but they're in a situation where both stances are absolutely 100% correct. They're overproducing cause jesus fucking christ there is no break in between product releases anymore and it's not like GW's constant release cycle where it's across two-three major games, a handful of minor games, and each of those games is divided into a buncha factions where you can just... ignore most of the releases. With magic they try their absolute hardest to make every fucking player want to get every fucking release. The underproducing angle comes from the aforementioned pattern they've been doing for YEARS where they just.... don't fucking deliver the amount of product ordered. I know a guy that runs a couple game stores and he regularly orders hundreds of cases of stuff and only ends up getting tens.
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>>86834939
I want a wolf riding grot boss so much it's unreal.
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>>86835283
While I don't doubt the veracity of that claim, I do doubt that it's THIRTY of the damn things. I'm not even sure if the average games workshop store would get thirty of a given starter/Vs box on release day.
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>>86834939
modern warscrolls stick to one significant ability mostly so I doubt this
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What's the rarest AoS model you own?
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>>86835377
??? underworlds and warcry are the only things to be oop for AoS exclusively
Greenskinz Chariot or Gitmob Shaman I guess (the plastic one that stick around as a madcap for like a week)
wonder why they squatted that shaman if the resin ones stayed?
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>>86835377
Store promo Guttripa
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>>86835377
Probably this original Slaangor

>inb4 oldhammer on round bases isn't AoS
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>>86835404
It counts, I specifically said AoS models out of curiosity but nobody is gonna object to some good ol' oldhammer.
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Would anyone have a link for the soulblight armybook, or the undead legion supplement ?
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>>86835430
>the undead legion supplement ?
The what?
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>>86835404
Fimir noble. NIB
I ain't gonna consider opening it till I get some normal fimir too
And also some of that silicone you can use to make molds of stuff for ENTIRELY UNRELATED reasons
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>>86835436
Don't know the name, but it was the EoT supplement book for playing Tomb kings and Vampire as one, and introduced Nagash and the Mortarchs Iirc

I just want more lore to read for my skelleboys
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>>86835377
AoS specifically? The limited bladeghast.
Overall? Probably the 2006 limited ogre bruiser with guns. Or more likely the original Carnival of Chaos guys for Mordheim. No coach sadly.
Hoping to add Braugh the Slavelord to my ogor collection someday
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>>86835453
To add to this, I also have a bunch of real oldhammer ogres as well. No original golgfag regrettably.
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>>86835449
Tomb who? Anon this is an AoS thread. We don't talk about 3rd party here.
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>>86835430
There it is.
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>>86835449
Okay you're talking about the rules half of The End Times: Nagash. It's around, shouldn't be difficult to find.
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>>86835445
Man, I'd love to get some fimir models. If FW ever does a made to order thing I'll buy those in an instant.
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hows this list sound

Host of the Everchosen
>Chaos Lord (Mark of Khorne) (115)
>Chaos Sorc Lord (Mark of Slaanesh) (120)

>20x Chaos Warriors (Mark of Nurgle, Nurgle banner) (440)
>3x Varanguard (Mark of Khorne) (290)
>3x Varanguard (Mark of Khorne) (290)
>10x Chosen (Mark of Khorne) (Khorne Banner) (480)
>3x Ogroid Theriodons (Mark of Slaanesh) (190)

>Eightfold Doom-Sigil (40)

1965/2000
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Does anyone have the link for Behemat, Stormcast and Lumineth?
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>>86834718
I disagree my brother in Grimnir, we should give them a depth of 6 feet, no more no less
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>>86834703
What are retarded question. OP, you’re a retarded furfag.
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>>86834730
Rend/Accuracy upgrade across the board, but mostly for units like Blood Warriors, Skullreapers, Skullcrushers and Bloodletters.

Herald on Bloodthrone gains Priest keyword

Sub-Allegiances gain better synergies between daemons and mortals no as not to fully exclude each other from list building.

All heroes get stronger when closer to each other, or the less there are, to represent the gorechosen's desire to always one-up each other.

Priests can cast 2 prayers

Blood Tithe reworked, but don't know how. Maybe a chart like the DoK where you get bonuses depending on amount of units destroyed (friend or foe), and parallel to that, points which you spend for summoning. So if you've destroyed 10 units, you get the corresponding bonus for 8+ units killed (caps at 8 for flavour) and have 10 blood tithe points to spend on summoning.
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Their saga continues.
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>>86835549
Who are cartoons for? I would guess for children but I doubt children visit GW's webpage.
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>>86834703
That's not a sidecut, you tard
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>>86835529
Self loathing ratfags are the worst.
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>>86835569
It's filler content, bland enough to keep you browsing the site but never interesting enough to warrant any kind of genuine appreciation.
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>>86835569
>>86835583
They're worth a chuckle. It's no one else's fault you're fucking dead inside
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>>86835593
It is, and I do chuckle. But let's be honest here, it's not a passion project or anyone's favorite. That being said, if they ever release models for those two idiots it'd be great.
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>>86835121
Thats your opinion. They look good to me. They don't need to be changed for some coomer fags.
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>>86835598
How is it a coomer thing to say that the models would look better with slightly leaner proportions?
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>>86835597
Mortel actually made an unofficial season on his own when GW hasn't ordered a new one in a bit. If you see the strips called Mortel Realms instead of Neverchosen its him just making it
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>>86835280

Honestly, these days they definitely just err on the side of producing enough for everyone. I can't think of the last FOMO box after Dominion for either AoS or 40K that you couldn't casually still buy months and months or over a year after release. No one is forced into pre-ordering instantly so they don't get fucked by scalpers, and that's a good thing.
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>>86834791
what about this:
>wiping out enemy unit is 2 blood points
>killing hero is 3 points
>monster/general 5 points
>losing own unit 1 point

Maybe some heroes have abilities which increases accumulation of blood points somehow.

points accumulated until phase 4 and can be used either to give battle long upgrades to unit like -1 rend, + 1 would roll, fight first or be used as command points Maybe to summon some demons too. Less accounting, similar effect.

That would promote aggresive playstyle
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>>86834948
yeah we not only want to squeze or customers like a lemons, but also spit them in the face. and you know what? They gonna buy it anyway.
t. James Workshop
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>>86835569
its just a silly filler content for chuckles and stuff. I won't be surprised if guy does it for free or appreciation pat on the back. at least those strips are not terrible as the other one
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We get it, Ben. You’ve been posting that picture for two years now.
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did they really fuck Kruleboyz over with two exclusive limited edition minis? Fucking hell SCE was always bloated it doesn't matter if they get them
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>>86835229
It 100% was NOT supposed to be a 'starter that asks a whole edition.'
They literally have their '3 tiers of starter' that they designed for that.
The fact that Dominion was so heavily over produced means they are actually losing sales on all three of THOSE because of the heavy discount on Dominion from 3rd parties (who want to remove this gigantic fucking box, which takes up a lot of inventory space, from their stock).
To be cles I'm not a SELLING FAST!!!! meming faggot. I even bought the box. Its just facts that they grossly over estimated demand due to 40k. I really don't get how fucking incompetent the management at GW is.
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>>86835569
for me, i fucking love the neverchosen strips
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>>86835608
Because you already have the 3rd edition stormcast for that. Wanting "leaner features" to specifically be female models is just coomery faggotry. Fuck off with that.
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>>86835377
Got the BASED old Eltharion, from when the story ACTUALLY ADVANCED for once.
Eltharion gets captured by the Witch King, tortured, and blinded, returned to Ulthuan as a jest.
Eltharion literally became this bad ass blind swordmaster known as the White Sword.
Naturally, grogs CANT HAVE PLOT ADVANCE!!!! NOOOO!!!
So it got retconned. Still got the model tho
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>>86835891
>did they really fuck Kruleboyz over with two exclusive limited edition minis?
not really anon, in any hard situation recasters can give KB a hand
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>>86835944
doesn't matter if the rules are nebulous, we could've had two heroes to flesh out the roster instead of niche sculpts to proxy or run anvil custom rules if your opponent even permits it y'know
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>>86835488
Looks good.
I would just give the Ogroid Khorne too.
You want them as the counter charge threat for the Nurgle bros right?
Just make them Khorne so they have like 4 Rend 2 Damage 3 attacks on the charge.
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>>86835960
>two heroes to flesh out the roster
just like with SCE
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>>86835377
This lad
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>>86835548
>Rend/Accuracy upgrade across the board
Armies need to move away from this kind of power creep, not keep leaning into it.
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>>86836069
>bringing one of the weakest armies up to a normal level
>power creep
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>>86836101
Yes, look at ogres
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>>86836069
simple +1 won't hurt, although you are right about power creep in current edition. and +ones are just incredibly boring
but there are many possible effects you could spend points on
>rerolls (shitty, i don't like rolling and rolling over but ok)
>fight second time
>fight first
>enemy unit fights last
>spend as CP
>rally
>summon demons
>dispel
>minus to enemy spell rolls
>+ to chanting rolls
>autocharge
>models count as 2 while contesting
>exploding dices
>mortals
>autopassing bravery checks

it should be some improvement for units meeting some requirments after all. if units don't get better why even introduce this kind of mechanics?
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>>86836101
You just defined power creep
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>>86836133
power creep is when new battletome brings OP mechanics/stats and new tomes are introducing better stuff to counter it. It's more like inventing wards to counter killy armies, then MW to counter wards, then MW wards to counter it and then inventing fucking unwardable attacks because everyone can deal and negate tons of wounds and MW. Balancing shitty army is not power creep, unless every khorne unit gets -2 rend, 5+ ward or some super duper mechanic of instakilling etc.
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>>86835377
Metal boobsnake.
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>>86835944
>>86835891
i'm just getting started with kruleboyz and aos. what were the limited models and were they sold separate or did they come in a kit?
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>>86834939
When was the last time they released a new unit by itself without a hero?
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>>86836196
Gutrippa unit leader given out for GW store aniversary and Shaman given out during some irl events. They don't have unique rules and i doubt GW will sell them again
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>>86835176
There's a decent chance Stormcast won't be in the 4th Edition starter
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>>86835230
They were selling upgrade kits when
A: there were no differences in the rules between different Stormhosts
and
B: there wasn't any fluff for any of the Stormhosts aside from the default gold guys.
If now they came out with an upgrade kit for Bear Eater's boys or whoever, it might actually sell OK.
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>>86836234
Cope
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>>86836234
Order vs Order is the only Order pairing left. Lumineth vs Umbraneth is the pair i see happening
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>>86836222
dam those look cool too.
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>>86836269
They aren't doing order vs order, it's going back around to Order vs Chaos.

If I had to predict the 4th Starter, I'm saying Lumineth vs Skaven.
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>>86836269
>thinking it will be anything other than Dawnbringer Crusades Cities vs. Slaves to Darkness as a double purpose The Old World tie-in box
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>>86836296
>double purpose The Old World tie-in box
That's DEFINITELY not happening. They want you to buy the AoS starter and they want you to buy the TOW starter.
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>>86836315
They just want the AoS fans to hop over to TOW before they pull the plug. Avoid another WHFB situation. Obviously some fans (Kruleboyz, Stormcast) will be left out in the cold.
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>>86836350
i think kruleboyz can be passed to TOW
>they are uhhh hybrid of goblins and orks or sth shit idk we haven't give it much thought, may rewrite it later
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>>86836296
>Slave to Darkness
>the army that is in the middle of having its big update released
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>it's zoomer retard hours agein
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>>86836350
Don't be an idjit. They're bringing TOW back because AoS's success has convinced them it's safe to have both games running at the same time.
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>>86836217

theridions like 3 weeks ago
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>>86836350

>Hop over to ToW
>ToW, the Forgeworld Vaporware game
How many forgeworld resin models are YOU planning to buy, anon?
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>>86836389
You mean the ones released with the Daemon prince remake?
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>>86836217
>When was the last time they released a new unit by itself without a hero?
>>86836389
>theridions like 3 weeks ago
>a new unit by itself without a hero?
>theridions
>a new unit by itself without a hero?
>theridions
>a new unit by itself without a hero?
>theridions
>a new unit by itself without a hero?
>theridions
>a new unit by itself without a hero?
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>>86836350
TOW is going to fail and flounder because nobody likes Rank and Flank, especially with old models. WHFB wasn't as popular as you think with people only really caring about it during the End Times and when it died. It's going to be the thing for about 2 months if that, then quietly die off as the hype goes away.
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>>86836401
my bad
>>86836408
take it easy boyo
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>>86836408
damn those Theridons really are Bullgor replacements, aren't they? Are they even going to bother giving them separate rules in the BoC tome? Or even selling the old Bullgor models anymore?
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>>86836431
dont think so
lorewise they are destruction creatures that went rogue not pure chaos breeds
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>>86836431
>damn those Theridons really are Bullgor replacements, aren't they?
i don't think so anon, why sell one kit when you can sell two.
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>>86836467
Because the Bullgor kit looks kinda shitty?
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>>86836398
TOW is obviously only going to be Forgeworid at launch (with plastics like the new HH kit) and then move over to mainline GW. They wouldn’t turn away money by keeping it FW.
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>>86836476
they actually look way better on the table imo.
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>>86836482
>They wouldn’t turn away money by keeping it FW.
I point you towards the currently ongoing HH line.

I think that TOW is going to primarily be an alternate ruleset for people's AoS armies. There will be two or three TOW only armies and the occasional resin character model for other armies, but the vast majority of TOW models will come in AoS boxes.
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>>86836508
lmao you’re completely delusional. When TOW hits AoS is DONE.
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>>86836520
I’m sure, ben.
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>>86836280
Mage is a downgrade imo, but would have been nice to diversify tge monopose hero you might want 2 of. Too bad he doesn't have his own pot grot
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>>86836520
>Game that sold so poorly that GW canned it (in my local areas case selling 1 Fantasy to every 8 40K kits), is totally gonna kill AoS guys.

The delusion of a (probable) Total War fans.
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>>86834730
Take std statlines, paint everything red, swap wizards for priests, blood tithe can stay, done.
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>>86836560

At this point it's just hilarious to me. The level of plastic model support these secondaries are expecting is literally impossible. GW could halt all 40K and AoS production for two years and it wouldn't be enough.

It's going to be a game that's 80% old models and resin, or it's going to take 20 years for them to get around to do doing Tomb Kings. Pick your poison.
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>>86836573

I'd say that khorne units should have lower saves, but more attacks as compensation.
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>>86836431
Idk. They look like demons rather than minotaurs.
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>>86836592
it'll unironically be pretty well supported like every other side game I'm sure but similarly limited in production duration
I think we'll see vanguard priced boxes instead of killteam/warcry ones, but the same limited options/duplicated sculpts as warcry within them and they'll be Oop in a year or two at most. Lotr has the same one box experience approach as all their other games now too
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>>86834703
Are stormcast eternals Eternal spirits inside of armour or do they actually eat after they become Sigma Marines who could still take out the bodies?
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>>86836681
later unless something fucks up when they're reincarnated then the former is possible
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>>86836681
Armor isn't a part of them, except maybe Celestant Prime
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>>86836681
They're recreated with physical bodies of flesh and blood. They're superhuman in many respects but they may still eat and sleep.

Because of the imperfect reforging process they're subjected to in order to be recreated there may be fringe cases where they come back weird. Like not being able to sleep or having a body made of pure lightning. That's not the way they're supposed to be, but it's a hazard of the process.
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Besides Arkhan the Black did any other human being survive in any way( besides his boss ) into age of Sigmar in any way I mean like did they stormcast Eternal any Tomb Kings? And on the subject did Arkhan come back yet from being killed by the elves?
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>>86836735
Maybe.
No.
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>>86836735
>did any other human being
Tomb Kings
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>>86836735
If Arkhan counts then so do they.
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>>86836735
Arkhsn didn't survive. Nagash had to make a new Arkhan based on his memories of Arkhan.
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>>86834703
Anyone got a scan of the ogor book?
I want to see their Path to Glory and nu Lore.
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>>86836825
>Nagash had to make a new Arkhan based on his memories of Arkhan.
Do you mean after the end of fantasy or do you mean after the elves Kill Arkhan?
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>>86836234
There is actually 0% chance stormcast won't be in the next AoS starter.
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>>86836681
New ones are human+.
More reforged ones become more and more like Azyr elementals- literally just living lightning
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>>86836858
After End Times. He didn't survive to AoS and got desintegrated like most other people
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Any reason that it's only the dwarfs that have been repacked to the white sigmar box, and elves still haven't been reboxed?
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>>86836069
There's a difference between giving rend to Blood Warriors, which be more akin to an act of mercy given their paper-weight tier utility in lists, and power creep, a term generally employed to define a gradual advancement in power of models into a snowball of ever more broken mechanics. Giving -1 rend to Blood warriors is not going to give BoK the same power level as BoC
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Why are DoK so strong?
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>>86836280
Unfortunately you're short a Pot Grot when buying the event shaman, which is kind of a shame given that I've not found a way to kitbash one
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>>86837021
It'shard to kill Morathi and Incarnate. Good melee, good shooting with mortal wounds.
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>>86836431
>Damn those Ogor Gluttons really are Bullgor replacements aren't they? Are they even going to bother giving them separate rules in the OMT tome? Or even selling the old Bullgor models anymore?

Anon, it's not because it's big and has a big weapon that it's a Bullgor. Or horns for that matter. Renew your prescription glasses, try to paint your models for slightly less far away.
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>>86837024
>greenstuff a sphere with a bunch of tentacles and attach it to a small base
>paint it as an eye
>your blind shaman now has a pet eyeball monster
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>>86836957
they haven't beyond the start collecting that elves don't have?
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>>86836520
>lmao you’re completely delusional. When TOW hits AoS is DONE.
>Fantasy, the game that got BTFO by middle-earth so hard it got kicked down so far into third place it was barely considered a core game anymore

oh now this is comedy
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>>86837126
The ironbreakers, copter and other units are in the white sigmar box, none of the dark elves are (despite also having a start collecting)
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>>86837141
you don't get it, the people that pirates total war will support it so hard it overtakes 40k in popularity
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>>86836735
Do we count Sigvald? Sure he died in End Times but then again he also made it to AoS and is the same person, more or less.
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>>86837167
weird because they're webstore exclusives
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>>86837188
Where i order them from are showing the new boxes for dwarf units. Guess gw also displays them with round bases
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>>86835229
Dominion isn’t the edition starter, it was the limited edition army box like indomitus that was supposed to sell out immediately. Now it forms low walls in the sale sections of LGS’s
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>>86837247
I think that my local stores and the websites that i use, combined, might have 2 dominions left.
And in aos, not everyone want an Stormcast army, the same way as marines
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>>86837247
>Now it forms low walls in the sale sections of LGS’s

I fucking wish. I want three more of the fuckers and i can't find it anywhere
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>>86837008
Its power creep, simple as. Look at Chaos Warriors, look at cow elfs.
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>entire thread of retards getting baited by hurrr dominion dont sell and tOW shit
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>>86835469
Do you have the SCE one?
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>>86837300
Why the fuck would you want 3 more
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>>86836957

The dwarfs were repacked because Dispossessed (and Wanderers) were real boy armies people actually played very early on in AoS. They had their own allegiance abilities and all, which was a rare thing relatively speaking. Basically it all happened before GW probably even came up with Cities of Sigmar as a concept.

Interesting to note that they never did repack any of the other Cities models even after CoS came out, though, outside the SC boxes. Obviously Freeguild is getting totally replaced now, and High Elves are basically gone already, but Dark Elves are kind of a question mark.
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>>86837435
I want to bulk out my SC with cheap vindicators and annhilators, i want a handful of Yndrasta so i can fuck around and try and recreate the book pose rather than the standard and i want the boyz sides so i can get a good chunk of the army when i pick up the christmas box tomorrow.
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>>86837216

You're not wrong. Dispossessed and Wanderers come in AoS boxes, but that's not something that happened recently. They both got reboxed all the way back in 1st edition, along with allegiance abilities, etc.

When Cities of Sigmar came out several years later, one of the reasons Dwarf/Wood Elf fans were the most pissed off about the whole thing is because they were armies some people actually bought into and played in AoS. Darkling Covens and Freegruild also had White Dwarf support but they never got reboxed and weren't as popular, IIRC.
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is this actually a kino Runelord model if you trim the base and replace whatever hole the SF backpack will have? Damn only the boots and gloves look a bit much and they can be sanded or filled in with epoxy
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>>86837446
>>86837476
Ahh i see, makes me feel s little better, but still quite worried about dark elves. Most of the models holds up quite well
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>>86836841
Maybe when you stop using slave names.
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>>86834703
>>86834717
>>86835085
>>86835118
Stormcast women fuck dragons
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>>86837329
For all we know it might just be 1guy talkikg to himself. Remember when last year a spammer downloaded some guy's slaanesh warrior pic and pretanded to be an offended model owner?
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When doing highlights, should you aim for high contrast like evil sunz scarlet directly on top of khorne red darkened with agrax or should you try to build smooth transitions by re-layering with khorne red, then a thinner layer of khorne red mixed with a lighter red, etc.?
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>>86837666
I prefer to do multiple highlights, so a base color, shade, base color, highlight, edge highlight.
But it depends on the unit, and how detailed i want to get
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>>86837635
I knew they were people of exquisite taste
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>>86837666
Depends on how sharp the highlight. I reserve the brightest colour for high points and sharp angles.
For blue black I use:
>Abaddon Black
>Dark Reaper
>Thunderhawk Blue
>Fenrisian Grey
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>>86837510
No runelords didn't look anything like that, this is just manlet gandalf
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>>86837426
I do but I'm holding it for ransom
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>>86836431
I don't understand how this brainlet take still keeps popping up
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>>86837329
> also not letting factions stay at shit-tier is power creep nuuuu can't job on this faction anymore
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>>86838020
Because they're obviously nu-minotaurs but GW are too cowardly to squat the old kit
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>>86837311
Anon, you can twist it however you want, I don't know why you insist on predicting doom and gloom power creep while relying on units from other factions than BoK to prove a point solely constricted to BoK. Besides, Chaos Warriors were underperforming, I can't speak for the cow aelves but certain units are designed to have a feel and place in armies, and they ought to be designed around fulfilling this purpose.

Would giving -1 rend to Blood Warriors make them fuckhueg power creepers and game changers ? Hell no, you'd simply have a competent troop choice on par with other options in the book and on par with other options of similar purpose in other books.

You really think that with their current warscroll they're part of the 20 warscrolls included in competitive lists? They're utter jobbers, you can squeeze more damage out of a unit of Blood Reavers at present.

I'm starting to think you wave around the power creep scarecrow because BoK is one of the few factions left against which you have a decent win rate buddy
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>>86837300
>I fucking wish. I want three more of the fuckers and i can't find it anywhere
lol I found this on google in about five secnds.
>https://athenagames.com/products/age-of-sigmar-dominion?variant=40311446601887&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2020-06-02&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=CjwKCAiA7IGcBhA8EiwAFfUDsaFPfjv2wXOhkUIUMaZ-BDeTQgIyqJiGK9SR0SzJWQn2UJKkYZQX5hoCOb4QAvD_BwE
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>>86837426
https://files.catbox.moe/jiqdqp.pdf
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>>86838093
>That discount
>10+ in stock
>Years later
Selling fast!
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>GW is trying to sell Yndrasta and friends for the cost of an entire Dominion box on ebay
I'm not one of those doomer fags, but Dominion flop will always be funny
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>>86838093
DON'T YOU GET IT IT'S A STARTER SET IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE AT 50% OFF UNTIL THE NEXT EDITION EVERYTHING IS FINE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>86837635
god I wish I were them
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>>86838161
Is it really a flop if everyone who wanted SCE got it? GW certainly overproduced, but I would rather that than another limited run of exactly 10 boxes worldwide. And people do continue to buy them, just not at a breakneck pace because SCE will never be Space Marines as they do not make up half of the entire games playable armies.
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Slaangors
>just started army
>apparently now the worse army in the game
Why am I drawn to dogshit, first orks, then gloomspites, now this
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>>86838192
>And people do continue to buy them, just not at a breakneck pace because SCE will never be Space Marines as they do not make up half of the entire games playable armies
This is something many people forget AOS is not 40k and the playerbase is much more split between all factions.
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>>86838192
>Is it really a flop
Yes.
>everyone who wanted SCE got it
That's like hiring a national stadium for primary school natively play. The parents might enjoy it, but it's not profitable.
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>>86838192
>Is it really a flop if GW overestimated the demand so completely that it's still on sale (and still not selling) actual YEARS later while its contemporary was so popular they had to speedrun a MtO program?
Gee anon, I dunno
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>>86838214
You're drawn to Kino anon.
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>>86838214
Why the crab claws on slaanesh models?
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>>86838247
Crabs are associated with greed.
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>>86838249
Doesn't seem very practical if they want to jack off.
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>>86838264
They're not plebians, they have people to do that for them.
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I'd love an upgrade sprue to customise beastmen more. Failing that I hope they release proper Khorngors and Pestigors, preferably as rank and file and not as a a super expensive box of three models.
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>>86838143
blessed art thou
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>>86838085
What are the two kruleboyz units that are benched?

Sloggoth and Bird Wizard?
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>>86834703
My patience paid off for once, the StD box went on Black Friday sale so I finally got it.
Feels good, excited for it. Think I'm going full Slaanesh with them.
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>>86838085
They established a new base line with vindictors for 2w infantry and then they shat all over it in only 1 year with CWs and Stoneguard. Now you'll expect Blood Warriors buffed to that level to be "competitive". You want Skullreapers that match Chosen. You want Juggernauts that match Chaos Knights. That's creep simple as.
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>>86838224
>not profitable.
>$100 for plastic sprues at "failure discount"
>not profitable.
Dominion should be $80 retail msrp to begin with.
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>>86838360
Vindictors are just too expensive, that's about it. Chaos warriors are tough but need a lot of help to hit very hard and will be suffering when they don't have access to Galletian fight in multiple ranks anymore.
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>>86838282
No people still play those. Underworld band and the BSB if I had to guess. Its not like their metric is reasonable though.
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>>86838411
Oh yeah that's fair, I forgor those two even existed.
>Its not like their metric is reasonable though.
Yeah feels great going from 38% to 41%. Kill me.
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>>86838406
>Vindictors are just too expensive
Now they are. They weren't 16 months ago.
>Chaos warriors are tough but need a lot of help to hit very hard
they aren't for that, they're unkillable with eroding icon. The fact you can actually take 20 with khorne and halberds and get 81 attacks at 3+/2+ with a simple near guaranteed spell cast if you want to, and its not even their intended usage, just highlights how creeped things are getting. I'm sure Bloodwarriors will just come out with rend and flat damage 2 at this rate.
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>>86838435
>Now they are. They weren't 16 months ago.
I don't think they were ever very competitively priced even at the start of 3.0
Liberators kinda mogged them in the new book as cheap but tough battleline tax and drakes+fulminators absolutely smashed them for useful battleline.
>they aren't for that, they're unkillable with eroding icon. The fact you can actually take 20 with khorne and halberds
How are you taking a Nurgle only icon on a Khorne unit
We've gone over this here before, lots of people speed read the StD leaks and forget how much shit is limited by God choice. You can't combo half the shit you think you can.
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>>86838469
>You can't combo half the shit you think you can.
Don't forget Warp Reality is Tzeentch caster and Tzeentch target only and that Host of the Everchosen got nerfed to a 5+ rally already.
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No black Friday sales for Warhammer minis?
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>>86838469
>How are you taking a Nurgle only icon on a Khorne unit
Where did I state you could? I said you can build them for damage and they're better at it than other factions pure damage dealers. Khorne CWs are twice as durable as buffed stormvermin and hit just as hard for the same points. As tanks eroding icon nurgle cws make vindictors or liberators look like garbage, they make blightkings look like garbage.
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>>86838512
UK company
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>>86838556
I see lots of international companies doing sales, oh well
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>see Varanguard on release
>fucking shit these look gaudy, christ the trim looks like a bitch to paint, the fuck is up with the poses
>look at Varanguard now
>hey these dudes look kinda cool
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?
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>>86838573
I find it's colours and not models that are difficult to paint.
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Medication seems to be in short supply today
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/tg/ How would you fix Kruleboyz?
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>>86838435
You can't take an Eroding Icon on a Khorne unit. You can't use the Undivided Command Ability (not spell) that gives +1 to wound on a Khorne unit. It's also exclusive with AoA and AoD for obvious reasons.

Non-Tzeentch/Slaanesh warriors are also flat out unable to benefit from almost any of StD's movement tech and have a footprint the size of Kansas.

>>86838526
Vindictors are overpriced, but if they (and the imperitant) were cheaper they'd be fine...ish.
>stormvermin
Stormvermin are shit. Blightkings are shit, Nurgle is only saved by flies. Liberators exist to be cheap.

Also Host of the Everchosen got nerfed to a 5+ Rally and Eroding Icon only works against attacks that target the unit with the banner now instead of a 12" aura.
They're probably going to be 50%+ but I don't see them taking over the top spots unless varanguard/knight spam lists really pull ahead.
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>>86838625
Add frog riding cavalry
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>>86834703
>TQ
Warp-grinders
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>>86838627
I don't see why you're trying to insist on turning this into a chaos warrior jidf argument. They're plainly power creeped, that's obvious to everyone since you insist practically every comparison to them in the game is shit and suddenly needs a point cut, which was the entire original point.
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>>86834720
>because a chest Gatling gun is Lord of Khorne tier stuff
Good and a filter for bad taste?
>>86835111
The preview said it only applies to the bite attack
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>>86838663
>I don't see why you're trying to insist on turning this into a chaos warrior jidf argument.
I'm having a genuine discussion about army balance here, and if you're just going to start pulling /pol/ memes instead of actual arguments involving rules then I'm not going to bother.
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>>86838677
You shouldn't bother I have no interest in listening to you defend new std for no reason when it isn't even out. And was ancillary to the topic to begin with.
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>>86838625
Gutrippaz are such a fundamental building block for KB and are currently almost useless. They need to be radically changed.

4+ save base, free pregame move, -1 to hit if charged, 5 man base unit size instead of 10 or some sort of bonus for outnumbering their target.

Make them sneaky and make them scary, they have to be because they're the ONLY NON HERO MELEE UNIT besides the FUCKING sloggoth.
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>>86834939
If this is true then I'm assuming spider riders shall soon be squa- I mean removed from the game
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>>86838713
The argument started because you kept citing illegal combos as the horrors of power creep and when multiple people pointed out you were wrong, you mumbled we were jewish and stomped your feet some more.
Like why bother? Does that actually make you feel better?
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>>86838625
Steal wolfs from gitz and give them to us. I think Killsboss would look cute with a pack of 10 Mini-Mes fallowing him around
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>>86838573
You finally saw them with helmets on
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>>86838748
Not once did I suggest an illegal combo, as if they're rules are difficult, you just can read.
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>>86838730
>currently almost useless.
welcome to the BH season.
>They need to be radically changed.
have fun waiting like two years.
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>>86838625
one dirty trick per hero, expand the list and make them a little better; not every one is at the start of the game
ez aside from 5+ save Boltboyz and 4+ save Gutrippaz with a hand weapon ability for +1 to wound against units they have taken damage from that one in a previous round
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>>86838625
They'd be playable if boltboyz could move and still aimed shot. If hobgrotz were 20/100 they'd be mid tier with krondspine list.
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>>86838512
Same reason Activision never did significant sales on CoD. They position themselves as a premium product and don't want people to get used to discounts.
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>>86838597
All the autists are home for Thanksgiving and screeching on /tg/ instead of spending time with their families.
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>>86839165
Lots of people aren't Americans
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>>86838214
Bro I play spiderfang I know the feels
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>>86838161
Dominion is a starter set. The point of a starter set is to remain in circulation for a whole edition, and usually includes a copy of the core rules as well as two forces of dudes to fight each other.
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>>86838247
>>86838249
Isn't it refrence to some venerical diseas that's nicknamed after a crab?
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>>86838247
It's just a design element. There's no real reason, just like how there's no real reason why a bunch of nurgle models have antlers.
>>86839353
no anon slaangors do not have pincers as a reference to pubic lice
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>>86838161
shut the fuck fag this like the third time this shit baited
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I really love the idea of cult of the transient form but I assume it's not nearly as fun in reality as on paper
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>>86839337
No, it's a launch box.
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>>86838625
>typical KB game arc
Turn 1 out of range. Turn 2 opponent hits screening rippas and grots who die instantly. Archers do some damage but not nearly enough, lose half of them to minor breath attacks and secondary shooting. Turn 3 get tabled.
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Ogorchads, I have yet to own the new battletome and I haven't been able to read up on all the changes yet, how is the Firebelly in the new book? I want to find a Firebelly proxy as I'm not paying that fucking much for resin shit, but if the Firebelly turns out to be wank in the new book I'll just get another butcher
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I have the soul wars SC, how well would they be paired if I got the Thunderstrike Brotherhood? Vandus seems pretty good, and I quite like the Retributors.

Only sad bit is that almost none of the units are full size.
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What's the coolest Stormcast theme/yourdudes you've seen?
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>>86839652
I suppose that guy who makes the Amberfall SCE or whatever they're called. The dudes with sallet helmets and shields with checkerboards on. They've been reposted here some.
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>>86839503
tzaangors look so much better when they aren't painted blue
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>>86839560
Fellow fat-fuck player with the tome here; you're in luck! They buffed billowing ash (the 12" bubble of -1 to hit) to be cast on a 6 instead of an 8 like it was in the last book. He's got a solid niche now and is definitely usable.
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>>86839745
I like that he's a lot better now but fuck me I don't want to buy and build it... Time to proxy, but thank you for letting me know he'll fit right into my army as I'm 130 points short
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>>86838625
Complete rewrite of rules with more focus on poison and combat tricks (like the dirty tricks anon suggested, make it work like Lumie rocks.) For a tricky and stealthy army that use underhanded tactics... the army does not use that many tricks, much stealth, no use too many underhanded tactics.
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>>86839652
Animated marble statues.
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>>86839652
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How do we fix it?
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>>86835377
Probably finecast Azhag
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>>86837247
It absolutely is the starter as it comes with a copy of the core rules
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>>86838625
A universal teleport/deepstrike. It's completely within the fluff for them to have one and it's absurd that they don't.
Another mobility option, like the killboss giving out a free movement as a command ability.
Gutrippaz should be 80 for 5. Same stats, except scareshields automatically give enemy units -2" penalty to charge within 12"
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>>86839824
Fixing perfection is not a task for any mortal man
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>>86838625
Give them a cav unit and their own book
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>>86835377
If we're counting fantasy models too then probably this globadier ("venombreath" here) that is for some reason labeled as a musician
There are like 0 pictures of it painted online, it's only in a few old catalogues, and I've only ever seen it once on ebay (which I immediately bought)
I didn't paint it yet though
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>>86839867
I meant the rules
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>>86839824
It's already perfect, it just needs a new plastic scuttleboss bro
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>>86839824
all spiderfang bows should have the venom effect
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>>86839881
Would be cool if it could actually use its webs for once. Either fence off an area for a turn, or hinder an enemy's movement.
Would also be cool if it could lay tasty little eggses, geehehehe.
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>>86839824
I think about this RE daily. What could it be? Terrain featuring an arachnarok "skull"? An extra sprue added to the box a la King Brodd to make a new variant/character? An undead arachnarok from the Evercrawl?
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>>86839947
Hm, I don't think it's an Undead one, because there's white behind the skull which would seem to indicate a lack of body.

I hope it's not terrain though.
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>>86839947
looks like there's vines or roots growing on the right side which fits with warcry terrain
brodd was a exception given the mega already had a base that was expanded upon; every mega variant had a different sculptor. I don't think they'd just slap sprues in old kits but they did as much for Cadians recently so who knows
lotta presumptions about the scale for what will probably be a scuttleboss in a warcry set or on his own with the battletome
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>>86839824
priest + prayers
slap a spear dude on the stand for a scuttleboss variant
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>>86839947
Could be the next incarnate spell
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>>86839640
dominion + the battleforce is a better pathway to a more viable army build.
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>>86839824
>270 point double wizard, +2 casting usually, 14w 4+, can do a handful of mws in combat if it needs to.
>likely the best scroll in the entire gits book.
what's supposed to be wrong with it?
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>>86839652
Vince's ratcasts
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>>86839947
a spider trophy for a necromunda character
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>>86840160
That looks surprisingly bad FW usually does characters great
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Bought the Dominion box. I spent about 30 minutes just unpacking it. My set came with card sleeves, artwork, and pins. Was like Christmas.
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>>86840160
that's not what it is
it doesn't have the big wound at its eye
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>>86840331
Sounds like whoever you bought it from included preorder/launch bonuses. Did you get the cool Kruleboyz keychain?
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>Battleforces available for pre-order in NZ
>prices vary by up to 90 NZD (~50-60 USD)
>SCE box not listed
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>>86840354
>whoever you bought it from included preorder/launch bonuses

It was one of 8 boxes on the shelf of my FLGS. It was 30% off.
Yes I got the keychain and AoS pin.
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>>86835377
the models themselves aren't rare, but these are probably the most valuable/uncommon aos related things I own (mine are sealed and way back in storage so this image of beat up boxes isnt mine)
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>>86839947
100% part of a base or terrain piece
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It's going to be a new Doombull model, right?
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>>86840105
I don't really like the Dominion box models sadly.
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>>86840477
I'm kinda leaning towards OBR.
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>>86840477
>release updated plastic kit for shitty resin but as a part of a side game warband
>eventually discontinue that warband so you can only get shitty resin option
It worked for Wurrgog Prophet
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>>86840477
Either undead (which we already got so unlikely) or dark elf, the skull crown has queues from both, definitely not goats.
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>>86840499
I dunno about that, the symbol for the previous OBR Underworlds crew was a lot more abstract, used shapes from OBR design, and wasn't spikey at all. OBR are one of the least spikey armies in the whole game
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>>86840477
If you're referring to the symbol below the GSG one you are insane for drawing that conclusion
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>>86840383
>mighty heroes
>those two on the left
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What's the first thing the White Dwarf says to Malerion when he meets him again?
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>>86840490
That's what I thought before I got it, but I plan to only use the best 5 out of the 10 vindictors, the vexillor is cool, the praetors can have helmets, the arcanum and imperatent are okay, the annihilators are awesome, and I don't really care about Yndrasta.
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Whatever you want to say about AoS being """successful""" it's shocking just how many models are still awaiting updates from WHFB. The resources GW devotes to AoS vs. 40k are tiny. AoS probably gets less direct support than Warcry or Kill Team.
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>>86840582
"You were right all along. I kneel, Phoenix King."
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>>86840571
It's a horned beast skull, which implies BoC. The last BoC Underworlds crew was all Gors and Ungors. So a Doombull and some little guys along the lines of Mollog's Mob or the Ogor crews would make sense.
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>>86840588
>AoS probably gets less direct support than Warcry or Kill Team.
lol you're technically correct. Both Kill Team and Warcry have gotten more unique new sculpts this year than AoS did.
Fewer releases, but AoS was almost all heroes while every Warcry or Kill Team release had at least ten new infantry guys in it
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>>86840588
I mean, yeah 40k has always been vastly more popular and a bigger moneymaker than fantasy, but how old were IG before the recent update? Berzerkers? Eldar? They still don't have all their aspect warriors in plastic. GW are slow as fuck even with their popular shit, except when they get a random hair up their ass like for lumineth
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>>86835377
Maybe this guy. I also have Azazel and Dechala, but I don't think those ones are all that rare.
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>>86840599
>>86840596
Eeebony aand iiivory !
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>>86840588
You say this like I'm supposed to accept that killteam and warcry don't get much support. GW is a stupid corporation and its a sacred idea to them you must always be expanding into new product streams. They'll lavish endless attention all over side game crap no one plays.
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>>86840582
>the White Dwarf
He's the White Duardin now.
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>>86840695
Does he call himself that? I wonder if he remembers the old world.
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>>86834703
Is that Brienne of Tarth the anime edition?
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>>86840714
I think it's one of the women from Vikings.
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>>86839371
>there's no real reason why a bunch of nurgle models have antlers.
That's actually related to the cycle of life and death. Antlers grow, shed and regrow.
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>>86839652
Ultramarines are my favourite desu.
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>>86840609
BoC don't wear metal helmets with full face covering and their horns aren't anything like that
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>>86840477
I didn't think beasts "people" were this delusional
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>>86840582
>"Malekith, I see you've become a dragon nigger."
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>>86840022
>here's white behind the skull which would seem to indicate a lack of body
REs tend to get cropped in such a way that anything that they don't want to show you appears as white
there are plenty of REs that look like they're floating, but turn out to actually be parts on a model's back, for example
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>>86840477
Almost certainly Dark Elves
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>>86840477
No, that skull mask is very elfy. Maybe some Executioners or something.
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>>86840048
>brodd was a exception given the mega already had a base that was expanded upon; every mega variant had a different sculptor. I don't think they'd just slap sprues in old kits but they did as much for Cadians recently so who knows
they did it with chaos knights in 40k very recently
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>>86840776
Darkling Covens would be interesting but I'm not willing to bet it's them. And I would actually be mildly upset if it was DoK again.
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>>86840776
>>86840804
Be fun if it was Order Serpentis, it would certainly make for a more unique warband.
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>>86835256
Kruel-vibrations
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>>86840477
I'm still betting on Chaos Legionaires
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>>86835569
Neverchosen is good. The others are utterly awful
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>>86840687
Warcry and Kill Team both seem to have been very successful. Smaller buy-in means it's easier to play.
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>>86840840
>On a Corpse-Rippa Vulcha, you can go anywhere you want.
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>>86840700
He remembers the Old World. But it's complicated. The way he came to be in the Mortal Realms was that in the Age of Chaos Grungni decided to reforge the legend of the white wanderer. He literally forged the abstract concept into a person. So when Grombrindal starts telling his own story, he starts not with the childhood or reign of Snorri Whitebeard but with King Snorri on his deathbed and about to swear he will return in a time of need. Because that's when the legend began. And taking that even further, Grombrindal remembers historical events from the Age of Myth that he wasn't physically present for.
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Anyone has the Warhammer + dark armour tutorial for StD?
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>>86837021
Because Morathi is the best character in AoS
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>>86840477
I'm not enjoying the Gnarlwood arc in either game.
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>>86840773
They aren't giving one tiny subfaction of CoS an Underworlds team. Do you expect a Dispossessed team next?
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>>86840885
Hm, so he's not really the white dwarf? More like Grungni's idea of what he was.
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>>86840903
>Because Morathi is the best character in AoS
>bitchy thot who hates males... because reasons
She barely amounts to a caricature of your average gender studies major.
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>>86841095
She's also a badass snake woman who commands an army of strippers
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It's a pretty coomer opinion I know, but I wish the model had her TW outfit. Guess there's always 3d printing.
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>>86840885
>>86841062
Honestly, that's a kind of a neat twist on the character.
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>>86841116
>She's also a badass snake woman who commands an army of strippers
That's just your average Stacey and accompanying herd of beta bitches.
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>>86841095
She hates males because she keeps getting put down by Malerion. It's literally pure salt that her son is better than her.
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As Morathi is now Morathi-Khaine I actually consider her FTM trans.
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>>86841174
Your average Stacy isn't a delf (daelf?) so that's a point in her favor
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>>86841182
>She hates males because she keeps getting put down by Malerion
I love how Malerion putting her down, is literally just Malerion speaking to her honestly about what she's doing.
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>>86841288
>>86841174
Their history is something I honestly wish I knew more about, Old World I mean.
I know she was a manipulative schemer who married the king just so she could beget his heir (Malerion) but as a boy who had an abusive mother its honestly kinda interesting seeing their dynamic.
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>>86840840
>deja kruel
>i have kruel'd in this place before
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>>86841305
She was rotten before she entranced Aenarion. I think he rescued her from a Chaos Warband, so she was likely already in the thrall of Slaanesh. She started the pleasure-cults that started the fall of the High Elves, and was a right bitch in Naggaroth too.

That Malekith turned out well is a miracle!
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>>86841095
If that was the case she would be fat and ugly. She doesn't hate men, just being the most beautiful being in the Old World and The Mortal Realms means only Anerion is enough of a Chad to meet her standards.

>>86841116
Exactly. Very based

>>86841146
Does someone have a 3D model of it. Asking for a friend

>>86841305
There's a bit of tension, she had her Cult of Pleasure which Malekith tried to wipe out, was a bit pissed off when he found out his mum was the head of it
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>>86841305
>(Malerion) but as a boy who had an abusive mother its honestly kinda interesting seeing their dynamic.
I'm the anon from both posts you're replying to, I always had a soft spot for Malekith for that exact reason.
>>86841336
>That Malekith turned out well is a miracle!
In my experience, abusive moms are kind of like the opposite of poor fathers, poor fathering leads to bad kids and damaged kids. Poor mothering tends to have better outcomes, because if you can't trust your own mother you learn very quickly to sort shit out yourself.
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>>86841373
Cheers bro.
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>>86841305
Malekith was not a nice man even though his mom is also a bitch anon.
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>>86841385
I was joking, but he probably still turned out better than could have hoped from a daemon-whore mother. I guess his daddy (and his responsibilities) did teach him something after all.

>>86841373
There's probably never been a son who trusts his mother less! I hope for some interactions between them soon (beyond what we've seen)

>>86841305
hug, anon
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>>86841452
Bro fuck off with this shit.
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>>86841462
I dont know enough to tell if
>>86841452
is wrong.
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>>86834703
Are Slaanesh Legion of the Everchosen....Chosen a good enough unit to spam?

Really considering doing a blob of 15, +2" charge, run and charge and +1 Attack on the charge seems fun.

That's still pretty slow for Slaanesh though, so thinking of backing them up with some knights and a triplet of chariots.

Also is the Daemon Prince trait that makes them 12 wounds and a monster as good as it seems? 12 wounds with a 3+/6++ and monstrous rampages seems like no joke, but he might be a little pillowfisted unless I'm missing something.
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>>86841548
It's not about wrong, it's about this being an AoS thread.
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>>86841587
Honestly characters Old World pasts/histories should be considered on topic
imho.
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>>86841587
>It's not about wrong, it's about this being an AoS thread.
Cool, and since we're discussing Morathi's character traits, including rampant misandry, how else might you propose approach it? I could just call her a bitch, but would be unfair to your average female chihuahua.
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Hey all. Brand new to AOS and looking to start fyreslayers. My LGS is gonna do a slow grow league starting at 500 points. Could anyone help me build my starting list and maybe throw a bit of advice my way on what to purchase as I grow my forces.
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>>86841680
If they still have the old start collecting, get that, I don't know much about FS but I know the new vanguard box isn't a good as the free magmadroth box that was the start collecting.
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>>86841680
>Brand new to AOS and looking to start fyreslayers
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>>86841555
DPs need flaming weapon on their axe to do real damage. Slaanesh Chosen are decent if you blow a cp on them. I'm not they're not just worse Varanguard at that point though. I think they shine more as Nurgle with Eroding Icon so they become just better Stormcast Protectors.
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>>86841680
Get Echoes of the Deep on Ebay, its as cheap as a vanguard box right now and comes with free shit.
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>>86841890
Fury of the Deep I mean.
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>>86841874
So big monster command trait + arcane tome/flaming weapon spell? Seems doable.
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Where's the Kruleboyz battleforce? It's not up for preorder
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>>86841555
Slaanesh chosen is probably the only way to make them fast enough.
Monster DP is one of the better use of commander traits.
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Realm gato
>>86842230
>>86842230
>>86842230
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>>86841680

If you can find them at a reasonable price, the old SC Box and Fury of the Deep are both vastly superior options to the Vanguard Box.

As far as list-building, what you want to start with is at least 20 Heathguard Berserkers and 1-2 Magmadroths. The Magmadroth kit also builds some of your most useful foot heroes, so it's a two-fer. Vulkites are included in basically ever discount box so you will have some and that's fine, it's just not ever going to be the focus of your list. Auric Hearthguard are pretty meh, definitely not something you need to run out and grab.

Aside from heroes you get from Fury of the Deep or the SC/Magmadroth kit, consider picking up a Battlesmith and a Runemaster. Grimwrath Berserkers are neat and the Doomseeker is a beautiful model but they're both gimmicks and not a high priority.
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>>86838625
>How would you fix Kruleboyz?
I think first of all a KB player should realise that this an RNG faction and be ok with it. Even like it. You like casino - you like KB. You don't? well there are plenty of other factions in the game. I don't think VEW is going to be removed or seriously reworked - way too much work for GW and they are slowly improving KB winrate with other changes anyway. (i.e. in this edition nobody is going to significantly change game mechanics)
>Gutrippaz
Many people don't realise that GW won't be changing Gutrippaz tax anytime soon. There are still way too many dominion boxes around for that. Doesn't mean Gutrippaz can't be good or interesting unit (maybe in certain subfaction) with some changes. Sure they are fragile(especially now) and relatively expensive but that can be compensated with maybe giving them improved Rally 5+(4+?) from underrepresented subfaction/type of killaboss or allowing -1 to hit from Scareshields to also work on ranged units all the time (it's a shield after all).
>KB next edition
I'd say more unfair advantage mechanics would be great.
-retreating after combat while abducting models for more units (gutrippas, birds) in a subfaction maybe
-getting bonuses against units that are "in combat" with your other unit (like more attacks representing stabbin them from the back)
-hobgrots setting bomb traps on objectives
-remember Nasty Skullkers? these small guys wound be great teleporting all over the board and running away like trees.



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