Young Leko edition>Free online playing:https://lichess.org>Free online chess variants:https://www.pychess.org>Tactics trainers:https://chesstempo.comhttps://blitztactics.comhttps://chesscup.org>Guess the entire opening sequence:https://jackli.gg/chessle>Guess the puzzle sequence:https://playboardle.com/>Chess links, tools, and books:https://pastebin.com/ujHjKxpz>Join our team:https://lichess.org/team/vietnamese-basket-weaving-forum>Tournaments every Saturday and Sundayhttps://lichess.org/team/vietnamese-basket-weaving-forum/tournaments>Previous threads:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/chess/type/op>>86805115
Why is there like 10 unrelated openings all named Rat Defense>Rat Defense, Harmonist: 1. e4 d6 2. f4
>>86823751Because rats are cool
Your opponent has left the game. You can claim victory in 72 seconds.
>>86823872I'm more of a vole-cel personally.
>>86823907>know my opponent just disconnected in a decent position and will probably be back within two minutes while they have plenty of time >claim victory anyway
>>86823937its completely fair, they are not entitled to waste my time without playing
>>86823946No anon we can't delude ourselves, sometimes it's the same as if they simply thought about a move for a few minutes And yet... I win
>>86823937>just disconnectedif your connection is shit, don't play multiplayer games. Disconnect should be an instant loss.
>>86824124I think both com and lichess are too permissive about this. I've had players disconnect and reconnect several times throughout the game. It's very distracting. One dc and return, fine. Several? Fuck off, that should be auto loss.
>>86823937Every disconnect I've ever seen happened immediately after punishing an opponent's blunder. Rage quit = resign which means I earned that elo boost.
If your opponent finds the best move here qh4 just report them.Leads to a vicious m8 in 4 if black does the "obvious" response.
>>86824124>Disconnect should be an instant loss.I actually agree with this hot take. At least when it comes to bullet and blitz.>>86824539Report them for making an illegal move? Also, black's getting crushed and every move wins.
>>86823907>>86823937>>86823946>>86823975>>86824124>>86824385>>86824435imagine winning your game and still complaining like a sissy
>>86824435Well thats a different story
>>86824539Qh5 wouldn't be that hard to play Is this general really so paranoid about cheating
why do i have a higher win % as black
>>86824754probably just haven't played a lot of games. I used to have a significantly higher win percentage as black, but as i played more my white % became higher.
>>86824754Check your openings. If you play on lichess go in to analysis board, open the database, select player (your games), click through the move orders for your white openings and see if anything stands out as particularly weak for you.
>>86824754you probably play like a cuck, with cowardice, and can't handle the more assertive playstyle called for with the white pieces.
>>86824793many such cases. Sad!
>>86823312you are a disgrace OPthe new pastebin was posted in the last thread:https://pastebin.com/sSWtAXgw
>>86824780>>86824793>>86824824I think it's because I haven't grown out of risky aggressive openings that only work at low EloMeanwhile as black I switched to a more hostile but safe defences
how can i see who or how many visited my chess.com profile?
>>86824866yeah that'll do it
GAME ABORTED??????CHESS.CUNT FIX YOUR SERVER
Which GM has the most SOVL and why is it pic related?
>>86825484It's nice seeing Ivanchuk play. Unfortunate that his game seems to be slightly off at the moment.
it'll be a sad day when engines find white's forced win in crazyhouse.
>>86825753https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYMK5mrlvwMIs Crazyhouse weakly solved? Crazyhouse players could always switch to 960 if needed.
>>86825802>Is Crazyhouse weakly solvedNah, but engines do give white a winning advantage from move 1.
>>86825753engine here, explain.
>>86825811I checked this mastertan's guy opening explorer and he has a 76% win rate with white opening 1.e4 and a 65% win rate as black versus 1.e4. It seems to be fine for the moment.
https://tcec-chess.comLeela is striking back ready to go +2 after being down 3 openings.In the game being shown Leela sacrifices a pawn and uses the Horwitz bishops to get the pawn back with interest.
>>86826070C U T E
>>86825484It's interesting that there are elite GMs who think that Ivanchuk is a greater natural talent than either Kasparov or Carlsen, but he gets so emotional when playing his games and it sometimes affects his play.Also, he's Ukrainian. Slava Ukraini!
>>86824848>ctrl-f 'reddit'>10 resultsNo, OP made the right choice and decided not to be a queer today.Wish I could say the same for you.
>>86825484I just played him OTB tonight lol
I'm taking the Finegoldpill by learning the Chigorin - I already have some experience with the Veresov and the Jobava London but the extra tempo does make a real difference.. Does anyone have experience with any Chigorin opening book (Watson, Morozevich, Liew)?
>>86826781By Chigorin I assume you mean 1.d4 d5 2c4 Nc6. Not sure why you would want to play the Chigorin as it scores kinda badly online and in the mainline 1. d4 d5 2. c4 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 e6 5. Bg5 Be7 6. e3 white got everything he wanted, black responses after that being castle or h6. Never tried it myself to be clear. Radjabov beat Gelfand in a exhibition game for the Russian TV https://lichess.org/4290RMnQ
Has lichess ever given any of you shit for having multiple accounts?
>>86827109Yeah, I saw that. I was just wondering if that's ever strictly enforced.
>>86827119I made 4 accounts in total and they never bothered me about it. There's one unused, two closed and I barely play on the active one nowadays.
>>86826957That's true, Black doesnt get too much play in those e6 lines and just suffers the downsides of the Chigorin without the upsides, but I saw some interesting things after 4...dxc4 and 5...Bb4. Those moves are more in Chigorin style - seeking dynamic play rather than turtling up. I like fresh positions where I can rely on my chess fundies, and I don't mind having to be worse if it means the position is at least imbalanced.
Anyone knows who is Gedult and why does he attack twice?
>>86827182Looks terrible https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=2289543 how did you even find that sequence?
>>86827299>how did you even find that sequence?I like playing following gambit: 1. d4 Nf6 2. g4 Nxg4 3. f3 Nf6 4. e4 (White's got big center for a pawn while Black only moves a knight. Allegedly this line was developed by actor Humphrey Bogart.)
>>86827437>A45 Indian Defense: Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit, Maltese Falconbased
>>86827437Quite the double edged weapon this line is. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1420929 Not sure what the name is because 365chess.com lists it as Bronstein gambit while lichess and cg as Gibbins-Weidenhagen Gambit. I wouldn't call it after Bronstein if the only game he played in this was a prearranged draw https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1450448
>>86824890Hover your mouse over the followers icon
>>86826147I can see that. Ivanchuk when he's on is incredible. The trick is you never know when or for how long he will be on and remain so. Consistency has been the problem his whole career.
>>86827092no i have like 4 of which i actively play on 2
im telling you guys this stupid fucking shit with the knight and the bishop ALWAYS happens to me... but this time i wasn't having it and found some mate threatening counter attack cuz i was pissed offthis is my immortal game
>>86828428pay no attention to the blunders and missed mate in 1's... that part of the SOUL
>>86828428> this stupid fucking shit with the knight and the bishop ALWAYS happens to melook up the traxler counter attack and farm it
>>86813689>what is fun
>>86828835What's more fun about it?
>>86828849It lets you pretend that your opponents aren't 12 year olds from India
>>86828849not more, different
>>86829100next level strategia
Is Orb chess going to be the new break out sport? I think it's time to get in on the ground floor.
>>86829399*cheats by illegally moving pieces within the dead angle*
>>86829399Does white just always play 1. Qxd8 to force 1... Kxd8 and prevent castling?
Behold, a 2558 puzzle
>>86829445You haven't really thought about what would be the piece setup, have you
>>86829535So just maneuver the knight around to capture the pawn and get the draw?
>>86829535Right out Silman's endgame book or any endgame book actually
Mr Chest I figured we could just skip up to here and save a few clicks.https://lichess.org/4cUUDG4F
>>86829575If a puzzle shows an obviously drawn position, then probably you actually have some mating tactic.
>>86829575wait wait WAIT NO. Fuck. Mate in 3. God damn I'm dumb.
>>86829535Nb4+ wins the pawn>oh but anon that's a stalemate because of insufficient material!I have better things to do than calculate some 20 move mating combination in a contrived puzzle that would never appear in a real game.
>>86829611>20 move mating combinationIt's not.
>>86829575That's what I thought but there's a mate in 3
>>86829611>20 move mating combinationanon, I...
>>86823312I almost BTFOed an FM in blitz but time trouble fucked mehttps://lichess.org/sJzdlWLJ/black
200 hundred moves later engines are in time trouble
>>86829535Anyone who ever looked at N vs p endgames knows this one
London system is pretty based. I just do my moves while giving absolutely zero shits about what my opponent does (I'll change the order of some of the moves to keep things defended if needed and that's it). Too bad there's no retard proof way to open as black that I know of so far and I get assigned black 80% of the time.
>>86829788>Too bad there's no retard proof way to open as blackHave you tried a King's Indian Defense setup?
>>86829808Just looked it up. Is it really just a bunch of king side passive development (to start with anyway)? I can do that.
>>86829833Yes, just play e6 early vs e4 so that white can't kick your knight with e5.
>>86829874I meant d6 not e6.
>>86829535nb4 ka1 kc1 a2 nc2#i'm a drunk 1800 lirapid and it took 10 seconds btw
I regret to inform you guys that some of (You) are not gonna make it.>play a game on my new opening challenge account versus another provisionally rated guy>get winning position out of the opening despite not even playing the best moves>get to this position>opponent plays Ke7??>castle>opponent plays Kd6??>opponent then complains in chat that I'm cheating
>>86829535How come nc1 then nb3 isn't draw by repetition?
>>86830040Oh it's mate I thought anons were talking about how to get the pawn off to make a draw
>Yes, I only analyze my wins
Some piece of shit that beat me just got his account closed on chesscum. Check his profile, has a real life profile pic, full name, google his name and username, turns out he's some shitter "professional" CSGO player. He just won $900 in some tournament a month ago. I feel like I should make the CSGO community aware of his nefarious ways but I'm not sure if it's worth it.
350 elo player that's been crying in these threads for the past week. I've lost so much that I am now down to 217. I've only managed 2 wins today and one was the other person resigning for no reason. I am simply too stupid for this game and will now delete all of my accounts. Thanks for putting up with my bullshit.
>>86829671Nice job but he was berserking. You should have mentioned that.I beat 2 FM's in blitz already today, but it's such an everyday occurrence that I wasn't even going to mention it, except I did here.
>>86830338Play 15+10Look at every piece and what it's attacking each turn. See which pieces have an unequal number of attackers/defenders.
>>86830389Too late, I'm out.
>>86830399Anon no come back ;_;
>>86830358because I am a 1500 subhuman and this probably my first rated player.
>>86830469I do this every year (make an account, get BTFO'd for 200 games, rage quit and delete everything). I'll probably be back next year.
>go home for Thanksgiving>dad is a craftsman>dad: "Here's your christmas and birthday present">it's a beautiful, hand-made modernist set>the pieces are painted wood, have weighted bottoms, and felt bases>the box has 32 individual compartments for each individual piece, lined in felt like some well-made historical art object>the front of the case has a diagram of the next-to-last position in Fischer's Game of the Century>the case has the ability to stand freely on its side on a level surface to display the complete set with each piece in their little compartments
https://tcec-chess.comKomodo (26.5) vs Lc0 (29.5)Leela is back with a vengeance leading by 3 points. In this game Komodo din't have a good time and got bullied by Leela's three queens. That probably caused great psychological damage to the serpent who is having trouble to stop Leela's streak.On other news, both Hillbilly attacks ended in a draw, Stockfish beat Leela in the superfinal in it.
>ZOMG YOU PLAYED A BRILLIANT MOVE???????????? THATS INSANE!!!!!! THAT MEANS OUR ONLY ENGINE TOOK LONGER THAN USUAL TO FIND IT!!!!@@@@ THIS IS CHESS.CUM AFTERALL SO WE NEED TO LET YOU KNOW YOU MADE A BRILLIANT MOVE SO WE CAN SHOW YOU HOW BRILLIANT YOU ARE!!!!!! YOURE 1100 AND UP A PIECE DURING A UGLY GAME AND ARE ALREADY OBVIOUSLY WINNING? WHO CARES YOU PLAYED A BRILLIANT MOVE!!! SEE THE TWO EXCLAMATION MARKS??!! THAT MEANS YOU PLAYED A BRILLIANT MOVE!!!
>>86830974Sounds great, where are the pictures?
>>86830974Post a picture please
>>86830974what did you get him? a pair of socks?
>>86830999(rent) free and open source
>play a game of chess every day for 3 months>rating has decreased Wth bros why am I so tarded
>>86830338I offered a game against you a few threads back and idk if this was actually you, but somebody joined the game and btfo me with an engine so if that's you, you deserve to be rated 200. I'm rated 2k and would have given you some real, actionable advice on how to improve your game, but instead you fired up stockfish and then basedjaked me in the thread afterwards.
Demolition Man at your service.
>>86831758No good deed goes unpunished.
>>86832013You surely reap what you sow, my mang.
>>86831401were they all blitz
>>86831401I was in the mid500s, started studying, and got to high 600s and then just started losing to everyone. At first I was like, “Oh, I’m just leveling out after a hot streak,” but no, I’ve sunk back down below where I was before even. Every pajeet sees my pins and forks coming. No one blunders meaningfully. People seem to deliberately avoid the openings I’m comfortable with. I’ll have a slight advantage and suddenly someone pulls out a weird fork from like a knight they brainlessly put on the rim on like turn 1. I control the center and wedge them into their own territory, it doesn’t matter. They castle, I can’t touch them. I castle on my strong side, I get checkmated in some sketchy way. If I was paranoid I would say chess.com didn’t like some way I was behaving and just condemned me to some weird instance with only me and 3000+ bots that have names copied from the real user database.
>>86831390>CHESS.COM ZOMBIE BOTS!!! SO FUN!!! BEAT THEM WITH JUST MY KING AND QUEEN!!!! IM ALSO RATED 2300 PUZZLES!!!! MY ACTUAL RATING IS 1300 THO IN LIKE BLITZ AND RAPID AND STUFF
what sparked the current melty?
>I paid for chess.com's unlimited analysis, and it clearly stated my move was brilliant... my bullet rating is 1250, so on gross yucky lichess I'm 2000, I could easily beat a 2000 from that website.. ha, I'll also have you know I can beat some of the fun chess.com character bots they have! Did you buy the gothamchess karo-con course? Oh, you didn't? As expected
>>86831476>basedjaks spam is on topic>a chess variant isn't
>>86832617chess thread and he is discussing chess, you arent, shogitard
>>86832375Bonus if that was premoved
>>86832422>I’ll have a slight advantage and suddenly someone pulls out a weird fork from like a knight they brainlessly put on the rim on like turn 1.Forks are easy to see>They castle, I can’t touch them. I castle on my strong side, I get checkmated in some sketchy way.Learn how to checkmate a castled king. It's pretty easy using queen, even the easiest puzzles show it. Then once you know that you'll know how to defend against it
>>86832422I bet you were making a lot of one move threats. You are taught to make threats, true, but the point of that is to 1. Improve the position of your pieces, 2. Make their pieces go to worse squares if possible, 3. Build control of space and pressure. You can play like this all game without ever having a specific tactic you'd like to achieve. The thing 700s do, A LOT, is threaten a thing, hope you miss it, flounder around without a plan if you defend it.
>>86832422If you're even on material, only trade if it leads to a better position, more center control etc.If you're up on material, always trade unless it would give your opponent way more active controlIf you're down on material, never trade, but don't let your opponent think they can just attack your pieces relentlessly, so take certain trades, if it helps your mobility and controlDon't attack pieces for simple tempo unless it also develops your pieces or opens up a tacticSee forks, pins, skewers, checkmates, etc. coming, don't allow them to happen
>>86832775On the contrary, I’m generally the one who’s very patient with boxing my opponent out and kicking back random useless checks and shortsighted attacks. I force them back while taking more of the center, increasing my coverage, or just developing my pieces. Barely seems to matter. I know every perspective as to why developing your queen early or moving the same knight 30 times in a row will just make you fall behind but for some reason when opponents do it they manage to find the only holes without ever blundering, all with full minutes more on the clock than I have. I wait and wait and wait for someone to hang a piece and it just doesn’t happen
>>86832422Another thing, in blitz, you can massively abuse the clock to win. I've won games where I have a single pawn left and the enemy has +20 material. You need to know when to invest time. Look at how much material is still on the board vs how much time is left. If there's 30 seconds left and barely a piece is down, just mindlessly trade or even sacrifice pieces and you'll win on time
>>86832830Play me then. Show me what you're made of.https://lichess.org/LRlUlBVA
>>86832923>>86832973I only play on lower time constraints when I just want a quick fix or I want to play like a firewagon round just for kicks. I’m not good playing fast even against lower rated players and yeah, I can abuse the clock but I don’t see the point, it’s basically a entirely different game. I’m actually pretty good with 30 minutes per player or more but I’m impatient so I do 10 or 15/10 which is not really in my wheelhouse. I guess for me chess is basically like going clothes shopping and everything is either too big or too small
>he actually played this out while i marched 3 connected pawns up the boardkek retard just give up
>>86833157i realise now i should have just c7 to win instantly but oh well
>7 blunders>win anywayTHEY CALL ME THE SWINDLER
Tonight's bullet session was maximum Indian. I faced a Polish, Grob, and Qh5 Sicilian in back to back games.
Today's chessgames.com puzzle is rated 3 stars out of 4, or "difficult." Which makes it extra difficult, since chessgames.com puzzles are tough. It comes from a game played in 2003. Only one move wins. Can you figure it out?I couldn't. I spent a lot of time trying to make 1.Nf4 work (note the dual threat of Nxg6+ and Ne6, which would trap the queen), but there's no good answer to ...Bxg5 2.Nxg6+ hxg6 3.Bxg6 Bxe3+. Correct is 1.Bxg6 hxg6 and THEN 2.Nf4, threatening Nxg6+ and Qf7 or Qh5. The evaluation at this point is +10. 2...Ngf6 blocks the way to f7 and defends h5. After 3.Nxg6+, white is breaking through and black will have to sacrifice too much material to avoid checkmate. Stockfish meets black's three legal moves with either Qf5, Nxe7, or Nh5, which all lead to exchanges on f6, with threats against the queen and king. If 1...Bxg5 (this is what was played in the game), 2.Bxe8 Bxe3+ 3.Qxe3 Qxe8 4.Qxe8 Rxe8 5.Nf4 and white is up material in the endgame.
>>86833175No. If you can do it, Marching the three pawns up the board is more dominating.
what a hectic game
>>86833611Shogi is not chess, nor is it a chess variant. Go back to /a/.
>>86833703It would be off-topic there, since /a/ is for anime, not chess variants.
>>86833328Oh yeah? oh yeah?
I started playing the bird and the dutch in blitz and I'm having a blast. Anyone else here play memes in low time controls?
>>86833741>you guys I'm just innocently discussing chess variants>lets his very own general for discussing abstract strategy games other than chess die after a whole 14 postsGo fuck yourself, retard
>>86833741If you really wanna be pedantic then both chess and shogi are chaturanga variants so you can fuck off with your bullshit because its not true no matter how many times you repeat it. After your little wiki spamming meltdown, or an other shogitards' but it really doesnt matter, you are simply not welcome here. You let your own general die but at least you didnt post here while that was alive. Someone in there said that you should post in some boardgame general so maybe try their patience and piss off.
>>86833872>you guys I'm just innocently discussing chess variantsyes>his very own generalWhy are you obsessed with this? It's like the 20th time you've brought it up.
>>86833811The dutch and birb are not that memey. They're just in the family of openings that have stronger alternatives and if your opponent knows what they're doing you just get a kind of iffy position. I play 1.b3 a lot in bullet.
>>86833926>Why are you obsessed with this?This is a good question to ask yourself. If you don't want to admit defeat, you could simply leave without another word. That would be sufficient.
I NEED to kiss Andrea's tummy
>>86834006Nice work. You showed that German who's boss.>>86834037King of the Hill is a chess variant. It uses the same board, the same pieces, the same rules of movement. Anyone who has a chess set can play King of the Hill. Shogi is not a chess variant, it is an entirely separate game, and you already know that. I look forward to reporting more of your posts.
>>86834057Kx33 and there's no mate.you need to lure the king back with bishop drop on 11 and then you can take the pawn.
>>86834057Nvm I see it now, white can take the (3,3) pawn if you do that
>>86834037Why do you feel the need to spam about your irrelevant nip crap so bad that you try to delude yourself and everyone else into thinking its a chess variant? I bet you even know its not true cause no one would refer to shogi as a chess variant, youre just being dishonest. When jannies ban you, multiple anons tell you that you dont belong and you need to be dishonest and/or delusional to try to justify your posts maybe take the hint man. Just fuck off.
>>86832099No good dog goes unpetted.
>>86831965pf6, be ready to take that Rook (or queen if White's really fucking dumb) or turn your your a7 pawn into a Queen and raise some cain.Oh wait a minute, h7 pawn'll just get you. Never mind.
>>86834116>spamA handful of self-contained posts a thread isn't spam.
>>86834155We don't have to convince you. Post shogi and we'll report it. I enjoyed this conversation.
>>86833926The real question is why are you obsessed with posting somewhere where you aren't wanted and have your posts deleted by the jannies when you can do it harassment-free in your own thread?That's some psychopath behavior
>>86834061>Anyone who has a chess set can play King of the HillSo are chess variants that add new pieces or have a larger board not chess variants?
>lichess.org is down>We expect to be back very soon. Thanks for your patience.
just ignore the shogitard and report him, hes desperate for attention
>>86834265Time to mog plebs with my chesscum account that i haven't touched in over a year and 500+ rating points
>>86834582Rx61 promotes Kx61 G@62Westernized pieces are kind of ugly.
thinking about playing the Horwitz defense against d4 now. I'm not sure. It's 1...e6. I'm tired of playing against the trompowsky in blitz after Nf6 and want something a little more... less dumb. I don't mind transposing to the french against d4 players. e6 followed by b6 if white wants to be an passive colle carpet muncher. That seems fine.
>>86834737From 1800 to 2100 I premoved e6 versus everything. It just works.
>last 7 days>250+ games>wins as black: 50%>wins as white: 49%
please stop shogi posting I'm literally starting to lose it
Another Danish goes down. Get absolutely fucked.
>opponent blunders his queen, asks for a takeback>I decline, proceed to propose a takeback myself>He accepts>Capture his queen again
>>86834006How can this guy be 2600 blitz and 2200 puzzles after 12k puzzles?I have the same puzzle rating after <200 puzzles and he's almost 900 points stronger than me in blitz
What the heck is going on
>>86835298He didn't have a line memorized against Nc6 and collapsed.
34 points captured in a single exchangeI think the other guy lost count
How do you even lose this endgame with the better pawn structure, better minor piece, more active king?
>>86835728https://lichess.org/broadcast/2022-charlotte-us-masters/round-2/BeZpW6e5/g2wuJoJShahahahahahahaOH NO NO NO... GMbros we got too cocky...And this guy beat Shirov with black. At least he had less than a minute on the clock which is sort of an excuse.
>>86835774Rubinstein would become a GM easily if this is how good GM endgame skills are in the modern era. At the same time https://lichess.org/broadcast/2022-charlotte-us-masters/round-2/BeZpW6e5/g2wuJoJS Naroditsky is a master swindler. I couldn't it believe when I saw that he won.
>>86835774I've been trashing Aman for a long time. I've said it before: his GM title was bought and paid for, either by himself via streaming revenue, or by chessbae94 via her trust fund. Another fake GM whose rating instantly fell once he got the last norm he needed.
>>86835803HAHAHAHAHAHAHAI would probably resign on the spot, go outside and break shit after this, JesusTo be fair this was also in time trouble and that computer analyst IM clearly showed that players play something like 500+ rating points below their level when theyre low on the clockCan you find what white missed and Naroditsky found?
>>86835728>doesn't already know GM is a meme titleBruh
>>86835839d2 Bxd2 Bc5+
>>86835839If it's seriously d2 then I saw that in like 10 seconds
>>86835858>>86835872you got it, congratsheres your prize
Komodo has lost 9 out of the last 14 openings and is currently 6 points behind Leela.
>>86835889>fischerandom trophy>looks like shitI don't see the problem
>>86835958what does 1/2-1 and 1-1/2 mean?
>>86836072Every position is played twice, once with White, once with Black. So 1-1/2 means a win with one color and a draw with the other
>>86833811The Dutch is my main weapon, it's not a memethere's like seven sound-ish variations
>>86836112so 1 1 means they won with both colors?
>>86836163I think so yeah
>>86835728endgames suck and being good at them means you're ruining chess
>>86836189t. the 200 rated cheese.cum anon aka the ultimate authority of /chess/
>>86836163You read these from left to right, winning with both colors is impossible with these predetermined openings and engine strength. If anyone is wondering, the orange means lost as white and blue means won as black.
>>86836445so it's not impossible it just never happens?
>>86836523Correct. Even between the 3rd best and 4th best engine this doesn't happen.
>>86836523The last time this happened in a superfinal was in season 17 (back in 2020) in a match between Lc0 T60 and stockfish 11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCEC_Season_17#Game_95
>>86835251Idk, I hadn't looked at his puzzle rating. Clearly he's a rating sitter of some sort so his actually average strength is likely ~2400 blitz.And maybe he even inflated his rating illegally; I notice a lot of his top wins are against people with their accounts closed now, though he has legitimately beaten a bunch of IM's and at least 1 GM.idk
>>86835080the Danish is fun when neither of us know how to play it
>>86836974I would've agreed with you before a shogitard shat up the thread with copy pasted wiki articles and others started posting shogi puzzles. It seems that now the shogi autist cant post his threadly updates in peace without attracting some unwelcome attention from people that will not respect boundaries. Some of those people might even schizo out. And if someones gonna schizo out at least let it be chess related, so its best to just run off the shogifags entirely. Let them be a problem of some other general.
>>86836974>>86837235Why don't you settle this like gentlemen?
>>86837408If someone from the chess side captures one of the shogi pieces can he redeploy them?
>>86836974>t. the shogitardThere was a poll and overwhelmingly people voted to not see the shogi nonsense. It's more than a handful.>Especially posts complaining about other people's posts.Pot calling the kettle black.If you like shogi so much then put in half the effort you schizos do spamming this general with 6 hour drawn matches and copypasta of wikipedia articles and you'd be able to keep your own thread alive.
>>86837797>spammingTwo posts (one deleted almost immediately after it was posted) is hardly spamming.
>>86837797That poll was about whether shogi and reddit should be inlcuded in the OP pastebin. And yes, it was an overwhelming no.
>>86837856>the only time the shogitards have ever posted anything in /chess/ is just now, todayYou're retarded.>>86837911Because nobody wants to see shogi in the /chess/ thread. It's off topic. So take it to your own thread.
what's up with indians and gambits? why are they afraid of mainline theory?
>>86837952what is this? b3 and make the c passer?
>>86838087let us compare openings to smells mainline openings are normal smells: flowers, rain, candles, coffee, etc. gambits are deviant and strange smells: curry, human feces, river pollution, etc. Indians are far more attracted to the latter
Try to play like Komodo. Here Bh2 with the idea of g4 is good but you have a tactict that wins material. Hard to find 4-5 move combination.The main solutions are 28. Nc5+!! bxc5 29. bxc5 Ne7 30. Qb2 Qc6 31. Rxa6 and 28. Nc5+!! bxc5 29. bxc5 Bc7 30. c4! dxc4 31. c6+ Qxc6 32. Bf3
>>86838140Do you have synesthesia, anon?
>>86838087They always want the cheapest lowest effort wins they can get. This theory is proven when you play an Indian who plays a gambit line, you defend it correctly, the position is now roughly equal or a little worse for him, he resigns (disconnects) because he doesn't want to play anymore.
>>86838186I get this a lot with people who play 1.e4 e5 2.Qh5. They play the same first ten moves or so and disappear when it doesn't work out.
>>86838087>>86838140Uhm... basedbros? I thought we were supposed to be intelligent and based? Were we just retared theorycucks all along? Do we shit ourselves any time the opponent deviates from our memorized Ruy Lopez lines?No... This cannot be... Not like this basedbros...Playing gambits for the lead in activity = basedPlaying gambits to see if the opponent falls for some memorized traps = cringe and pajeetpilled
>>86838083>the only time the shogitards have ever posted anything in /chess/ is just now, todayNo, but you can check the archives and see that all of my posts are unintrusive summaries of important pro games / title matches. I've never made more than a couple posts per thread, and usually there's multiple threads between shogi posts.
>>86838232nobody cares , i come into chess thread every couple months and i cant believe you still post your gay off topic game on this general to people who dont give a fling fuck. cant believe youre not banned yet for habitual off topic posting and then on top of that, admit to it and defend it every time people call you out on it. youre not "bringing news to people". if anyone cared about shogi they would follow it foe themselves, but they dont, and if they did they would fuck off to the alternative chess game thread where it belongs. go awayretard
this is gonna sound weird maybe, but i unironically think the hardest tactic to master is the xray. not noticing xrays and the squares that are guarded through pieces , usually by bishops but not always, is so important in some openings where center gets complicated quickly and i manage to fuck it up all the time
>>86838254I appreciate the shogi updates every once in a while. If you care about chess so much, why not go back to r/chess?
>>86838254>cant believe youre not banned yet for habitual off topic posting Why would posting a chess variant in a chess thread off-topic or ban worthy?
>>86838315It's not a chess variant it doesn't use the same pieces or board.
>>86838254It would be like going to /sp/ and posting MLB scores in the cricket thread, and claiming that baseball is a cricket variant and should be included. I wonder how that would be received there. And now here comes the shogi weeb to protest my analogy with one of the same arguments he's been spamming in the past several threads.
>>86838296No, I don't think that's weird at all. I can definitely see how those are a psychological blind spot for intermediate players much like backwards moves, putting your piece on a square where it can be captured, etc, It requires experience and spatial and tactical awareness and those require lots of training. Just keep playing the same opening anon, you'll get better at it one day at a time.
>>86838319capablanca bros... we're not a chess variant anymore
>>86838232Breh why do you do this to yourself? When you were just shouting into the void with a little echo I understood but now everytime you shout into the void it yells back at you with a vengeance. And you even made others schizo out about shogi and now you're just as unwelcome as they are. You probably haven't really piqued anyone's interest to a meaningful degree, you don't really get any serious replies to your updates and your posts are regularly deleted. Is this like an autism tic? Cause there's really no other reason for you to keep posting. And this cope about shogi being a chess variant is sad if you honestly think that, but incredibly pathetic and disingenuous if you know it's bullshit. Which it is and you should know that if you're at least semi-serious about any of these two games.
>>86838362I knew someone would say this. It uses all the same pieces as chess, and then some new ones, though the board is different. And noone on Earth plays this so its not even really a game. Shogi isn't a chess variant as it doesn't use any of the same pieces.
>>86838232I have always enjoyed your shogi posts. I've also always enjoyed how the number of posts complaining about your posts always seem to outnumber your posts. Please keep doing it as long as you're able, I appreciate reading about it. Reading about Seto Fujii's autism was also pretty enjoyable
>>86832422 here. Made a new account, played a shitload of games, and now I’m consistently beating ~700s again. They’re blundering, having time crunch, and losing trades like they should be. Pretty sure chess.com has like a “butthurt button” they can press if too many people negatively mark you after a match for talking shit. After that they mostly put you up against a bot with spoofed names that sandbags for a bit before turning up the heat. No wonder everyone I was playing seemed to have the exact same pace to their game, had the same patterns, always found the one incredible move in a pinch.
I need an IMMEDIATE wellness check on my Grand Prix bros
>>86838534I didn’t want to believe it either, but go ahead and give it a shot if you’re so sure. Just start typing incredibly condescending/pedantic shit every match and wait for enough people to mark you as a poor sport. You will start getting frozen out every game in the same few ways with one random hapless BR you can stomp every ten games or so just to keep you wondering.
any decent chess set black friday sales... or do i gotta wait til 'cyber monday'?also im only interested in those ones where you get a mat for the board, and then some nice pieces; cheap in price but not in quality :)
>>86838570It's an equal position. The engine might say it's -0.1 or -0.3 or whatever but that's not really important. In the words of a particular GM, there's only two kinds of positions, positions that are winning and positions that are not. Playability is a lot more important than arbitrary engine opening evals
>>86838570I saw that too. It honestly looks equal to me. Here is a funny position 1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. f4 g6 4. Nf3 Bg7 5. Bb5 Nd4 6. O-O Nxb5 7. Nxb5 a6 8. Nc3 b5 9. Qe2 b4 10. Nd1 d6 11. d3
>>86838570playing anything other than the morra is effeminate to be quite honest just finished this and I can already feel the testosterone pulsing in my veins
>>86838651Huh. Looks like House of Staunton actually has a sale. Thanks for the reminder.
>>86838805you are of by 1000 lolit's not as easy to be accurate in manly positions like this, you wouldn't know ofc
>>86838083I want to see shogi posts in the chess general, so what you said is false.
>>86838806its a chess thread and shogi is not chess fuck off retard samefag
Why isnt the fate of shogiposting decided with a lichess arena between the supporters and the non-supporters?
>>86838326No it's not. If anything it would be the other way around, because (I'm assuming) baseball is much more popular than cricket on /sp/. It would be more like if there was a baseball general, and someone posted softball or cricket news here and there. The fact is that there probably aren't enough people posting about shogi to justify a shogi general, and this chess general is the best and most appropriate place to post about it.
All the people who want to talk about other games than chess can easily make a thread about it. This is the chess general. If your thread dies maybe it's best to move on to other platforms, if you actually even care about the game you want to talk about.
>>86838814>6. h6 7. h5 >hangs pieces for no reason >forgets that you're supposed to develop your pieces >1800do chesscummers really?
>>86838856seconded, let's do this
>>86838856>>86838880Fuck off, retards. No games, no exceptions, no yeah-buts. No shogi in the chess thread.
>>86838801lol i went to their site and saw some cursed horses wtf
>>86838857I don’t follow cricket myself but it has a big following on /sp/ from what I can tell, both /mlb/ and /cric/ are both pretty healthy generals and I don’t think either dwarfs the othersometimes people post softball stuff in /mlb/ but it’s usually just to point people to another thread for a specific game or event or ogle huge assesas far as I know shogi doesn’t have the draw of insanely thick female players so it’s no surprised it isn’t as well received
>>86838943Every once in a while I look at their stock, but there's just no way I'm spending $500+ on a chess set. Maybe someday...
Why is he called Mr dodgy anyways?
>>86838936Lighten up man, it would be good fun. More arguments should be settled through chess in this general anyway. Before the wiki spam and the schizos the complainers really were more obnoxious than the shogiposter himself. Plus its not like theres no room for that one autist and the handful of replies he gets in this thread next to the youtuber/twitch streamer bullshit, the pajeet-tier chess thot simps, the borderline nonces & pederasts, the unironic homoposters and the absolute retards always seething about everything and looking to blame anything but themselves for their chess failures.
>>86839065>Randomly open the chess24 stream >First thing I hear is>Chess24 subscription is such a good deal, it has so many videos, it's only 9.99$ per year.I mean it has so many videos ...>The content it has is great>Yes this was mentioned in Chessable>Did you also know about that Chessable event coming up?>Close streamAll this in the span of a few seconds.
>>86839122If you give an inch they take a mile. Off topic is off topic.
>>86838806If it were so easy to manipulate the poll, samefagging shogitard, then why didn't you manipulate it in your favor?Everybody responds negatively to your faggotry and the jannies delete your posts for being off-topic, so go fuck off to your own thread.
>>86838346>You been ABORT'D punk!Hysterical, I laugh every tiem.
>puzzle streak>bomb out at 1400 levelI dunno if games are going to be a good idea today
https://lichess.org/training/diUQf>this daily puzzle is rated 2000lmao wtf
>>86839884its probably cause you can start by taking on h2
>>86839884>>86839979why isnt taking h2 better dont you get a pawn
>>86839997because getting a bishop is better than getting a pawn
>>86838461me too, sad I missed the shogi problem before it was deleted
Is e4 e5 as black really so fun that it's worth playing it? It scores much worse than every other response to e4, but it's super popular.
>>86840638It doesn't score much worse than every other response.
>>86840638The Sicilian is more popular than e5 but it immediately creates imbalances. Many players as black play to first equalize first and then try to win. With lines like the Berlin defense or the Russian defense, black has achieved many comfortable draws so they tend to keep playing them.
>>86840638It's fun if you get both knights out on turn 3
place your bethttps://tatasteelchess.com/news/strongest-field-ever-at-85th-edition-of-the-tata-steel-chess-tournament/
bros i went from +7 to minus 5 in one move, only blunder because got into time troublenot like this...
>>86840934>potential winner tierMagnus, Ding, Fabi, Abdusattorov>jobber tierDuda, van Foreest, Rapport
>>86840971>Abdusattorovreally? I'd never heard of themmeanwhile, can't bag the Prag
>>86840638I like it because it fights for equality from move 1.The responses other than 1...e5 all concede space or initiative or development or some combination of those 3, which is fine if you like that style of play.
Anybody having problem quitting chess? I tried to taper down but the itch is unbearable. It's taking up too much of my free time that I achieved nothing in this year. I feel like having an addiction, stronger than browsing image boards.
>>86840934This is Caruana's year.
>>86840638Score worse amongst whom? Shitters or SuperGM? 1...e5 at the SuperGM level is a draw factory. Very sound good lines.
Decided to try the do-overs for puzzles I got wrong on Lichess. Pic related was the result. They were stumpers apparently.
Goddess i want her to hurt me so bad
any king's gambit players here? what do you like to play against the falkbeer?
>>86841509exd5 and just play the main lines, getting too fancy is a good way to get murdered. Any specific line that bothers you?
>>86841642not really, I just play the main lines, but often the position dries up into some shitty endgame. I was hoping someone could recommend me lines that keep the position interesting
>>86841509Try Keres's line 1. e4 e5 2. f4 d5 3. exd5 e4 4. d3 Nf6 5. Nd2 not best but you might find it interesting.
>>86842175interesting. So Nd2 instead of Nc3 so that black can't pin you with Bb4?
>>86842269Yes that's the main point. Keeping queens on is easy in this line. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1076309
>>86842315based, thanks. I'll try this out. any suggestions against exf4 after dxe5?
>>86842383Main lines, if Qxd5 and then the check from e6, Be2 blocking with the bishop and castling next turn and if Nf6 then c4 c6 d4, if cxd then c5 to block the dark squared bishop. Always responding with 4. Nf3.
Woooooo! New best win just now. 1900 blitz guy. I beat him in bullet and he's much worse at bullet but i'm taking this W with pride anyway.
Recover as Black from this position.
>>86842739recover meaning save piece?
>>86842739No, I don't think I will. I have a hard time believing there's a move to get out of this one. Best shot is trying to trap the queen somehow but even if that happens and you win the queen for free from here you're still down material.
>>86842739Nd7 Qxd7 e6?
>>86842846e6 is illegal.>>86842739All I can think of is forgetting about your queen side material and desperately trying to launch an attack against white's king side.
>opponent plays 1. e3>play 1...d5 and write "y u do dis">opponent plays 2. h3, disables chat, tabs out and loses by abandonment
>>86841450I once did do overs for like 200 incorrectly solved puzzles that I accumulated over a longer period. It was quite painful.
>>86842739chuck some pawns up the board for a few moves then resign
>>86841509Just play the mainline. Black declined any advantage for a more solid less sharp game so just take that and play it.
Do you guys know any weird sidelines that lead to cool unique positions? The weirder the better, but preferably somewhat sound.Picrel is one example - it's a position in the pirc arising from 1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4.
Nobody ever offers a rematch after losing...
>>86843215oops I mean winning
>>86843215>>86843227I never offer rematch and I never accept.
>>86843215People do it in variants a lot because of how long it takes to get a game in them (also some people do it just to farm lol).
this is new cope>win>on time but it was mate in 4>(guy) would like to chat>he say gg except for the timer malfunction. your win will be reversed. Oh is that so? Oh is that so indeed. Timer worked just fine for me.
>>86843227You're right that most rematches are ragers who totally could have beat you bro and I typically accept unless I think they actually could have beat me. Regardless a tilt game against somebody I already beat is a fully legal way to conduct myself which is beneficial for my elo. Maybe I should start aggressively trying to rematch with people I btfo in order to boost myself.
>>86839317Because only the anti-shogi autist that made the poll in the first place is autistic enough to bother.
Do the leagues in .com actually do anything?
>>86843658Those trophy things? No, they appear to be a user retention device. Gacha style. Keep you on the site, keep you playing, keep you coming back for more.
>>86843521Does the janny just refresh this thread and ctrl-f for shogi? It's past the bump limit, why even delete this?
>>86843869I was not even posting shogi. I just said that a poll hosted on an external site isn't authoritative, and it's not even necessarily representative of all the users that browse this general.
>>86843962And I'm not the shogi poster either. I don't even know how to play shogi. But if someone posts shogi or xiangqi or Capablanca chess or whatever in the chess general, there's no reason to sperg out about it. If there's so many such posts that it becomes a problem, then great. They have enough posts that they should move to their own general thread. Otherwise it'a not a problem to see a shogi post in the chess thread. I for one like seeing pictures of shogi ladies in kimonos.