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No one cares.
>>86823327Tok was right about exactly one thing : there is a tsundere in these threads and she's called "No one".
>>86823383I-is she cute? And does she like CYOAs?
>>86823508>I-is she cute?Unknown.>spoilerYes. She probably save everything, play the devil's advocate for Tok, Reddit and other garbages and encourage you to finish your WIP.
>>86823505D>>86823544I am glad she is here in that case
>>86823641I don't see any setting where this scenario is less nightmarish.
>>86823641TLDR on this?
>>86823709Brother it's 2 pages
>>86823709A succubus was cornered by her assaillants and used her fading powers to lure you. Once you're distracted she force you to eat her tongue. After that you're slowly becoming her physically and mentally.
>>86823588I'm sorry anon, the capcha always expires around the ninety-seven mark so I was unable to invite you to cool supersoldier adventures.
>>86823271Endless Castle for me please
Let us debate the merit of joint fantastical slice-of-life adventures.
>>86823853Like in Harahel?
>>86823857>HarahelThat one leans to much into "porn physics" for me to find enjoyable. I prefer a CYOA grounded in pseudorealism.
>>86823868A Life Chronicle is my go-to CYOA when it comes to "realism", though ideally I would prefer something a tad more customizable, expansive, and laid-back than it.
>>86823890Where is the "fantastical" side of it? I don't remember seeing it upon reading the CYOA.
>>86823766Why would anyone want to go through that in a CYOA?
>>86823899There is subtle "maybe magic, maybe not" stuff in it, though not much. From what I recall, the academic route had such a potentiality. Maybe something that combined the comfortability of Lamentations, customizability of JRPG Traitor , and chronological length of ALC?
>>86823902I don't know. Then again the refugee thread is filled with people getting "boxed" etc so maybe that's a fetish. Or they like the eldritch horror. It's an audience.>>86823923>Maybe something that combined the comfortability of Lamentations, customizability of JRPG Traitor , and chronological length of ALC?I don't think something like that exist. Not yet at least.
>>86823931I know. Which is a travesty.
>>86823941You could always create it. I know most weren't enthusiatic about ALC so copycats are less likely than for JRPG or Lamentations.
>>86823955Where would an amateur who doesn't know how to use photoshop or write in non-essay format begin?
>>86823967Check the archives & resources pastebin in the OP. You could use CYOA Studio just to have an idea about how it looks like before really putting the CYOA together. If Photoshop is too hard, think of Paint.net, easier for novices.
i remember this cyoa sucking donkey dickreposting to see if it still sucks
>>86823992Okay. Don't quote me on that.
>>86823853Sounds like my kind of thing. Anons and waifus on an adventure. Too bad it will never happen.
>>86824083Feels bad man.
SHINE (WIP) update...CYOA Mode finished. Pic is the end of it.Will be working on the Epilogue tomorrow.As expected, some bullshit happened at the last minute, but I am doing everything I can to meet the deadline. Saturday Evening EST. Won't give an exact time, because reasons...
>>86824470Do these affect the mechanics of the game in any way or is it just fluff?
>>86824482CYOA Mode has no mechanics. It's just a picker for the things you wanted, or liked, etc.But how people respond to SHINE (and what they choose to do) will most likely influence future events, in future installments...
>>86824470>OptimismAfter all I've seen in the WIP updates, you'd have to be delusional to optimistic there. Unless it's your state of mind before everything go to shit, or near the end of this half-year.I'm surprised there isn't an option for "Hollow/Resigned" where you just go hopelessly through the motions.
>>86823902BTG literally has a CYOA which is "You die a horrible painful death, but you're a girl when it happens"So that should give you an idea of the sort of demographic that would enjoy his work.
>>86824503Nevermind. I'm going to give you a fast mechanic to build your attributes.Simple point pool, you decide your Strength, Agility, Dexterity, Endurance, and Perception, from a given amount of points
Italics deep lore...
>>86824604Oh yeah, the CYOA about Vampires and Humans. Not talked a lot nowdays.
>>86824648Because it's grimdark shit.
>>86824655Probably. It's easier to fall into the grimderp with vamps.
>>86824546Chronologically, the CYOA is actually happening on the first day of the 40th week.(You) are "re-experiencing" what has already transpired, through a visionary state.Behind the scenes, this is the best I could do to explain how the player is able to have some level of foreknowledge of enemy attacks, and when certain events take place.I don't know how to scare people or surprise them, in an active sense, through a static image medium where everything about the situation is already explained
>>86824674Understandable. Otherwise it'd be hard to explain how (You) vaguely understand Green Death bullshit or the behavior of the Worm if you're just panicking through your first encounter.
>>86823641too many word, not enough picture
>>86824560This sounds like a strange person I do not want to meet
>>86824024It's an interesting concept, but between the overly-glowy titles and the weird amorphous CGI images it's pretty unpleasant to look at.
>>86823902There are horror cyoas. It's not a new concept.
>>86824560Excuse me, nowhere in The Button are you forced to become a cute girl. You can choose to be killed BY a cute girl just as easily.
>>86823271>>86823271Hey, there's this CYOA I've been looking for but I don't know where to start. I'm pretty sure it's one of those "world creator" types of CYOA but all I remember for certain is there was a drawback where the fruit in the world would be carnivorous predators. If anyone knows anything I'd appreciate it.Also dumping Gifted, page 1/5
>>86826167Gifted page 2/5
>>86826176You seems distracted. Let me finish.
>>86826280Thanks a load, anon, 4chan wouldn't let me upload the rest because it said the file type wasn't compatible, even though theyw were the same as the first two.
what are you excited for bros? i want magi case
>>86826560SHINE.I think the Fisherwoman is one of the Threats luring you, but I need confirmation.
>>86825632yeah, a concept has to exist to be new
>>86826598what if she's really pure
>>86826669>suspicious lack of minor threats in her vicinity (bar the Revenants)>the whole area is trying to make you feel relaxed>everything tried to kill you thus far>"what if she's really pure"It's a trap. A lovely one, but a trap nonetheless. Talk to her from a safe distance if you're really lonely, but don't approach.
>>86826754 (me)Something I forgot: the area is based around her, which imply it's her lair. Or I'm paranoid.
>>86826754>she sucked millions
>>86827019But that's not a Super Soldier, that's a Superslut. Unless that's the joke, in which case you got me.
>>86826985yes. Intentional joke is intentional
>>86826754if i have to die, dying with a mermaid is based
>>86827303My man. Option's called Fisherwoman and all we got is a Womanfish, so becoming the Fisher it is.
It's the lure, anon. She probably looks like a monster once you get close enough. Don't fall for it.
>>86826167Looking forward to the remake of this.
>>86827339Jokes on you, that makes everything better. Option. Fucking. B.You can watch, adventurecuck
>>86827360Option A, fuck you I don't care
>>86827360You can tell the narrator wanted to talk B up so badly, but it still doesn't come across as well as they wanted it to.
>>86827450No judgement until you start talking about marine biology whenever I go somewhere>>86827455I think otherwise. The themes are very clear: A is something pleasant understated, B is something unpleasant overstated. Well balanced
>>86827360I wonder if anyone ever took the Option A.Since Avalon and Nameless both exist within the Blood Magic multiverse, the two (You) probably met at some point.
>W.I.P.I really don't know if this fits, just building a d6 ttrpg system, right now just building a monster chart since the character builder would be fairly sizable
>>86827494The relevant segments of the system definitely have their place here. The pic rel doesn't really reveal a whole lot though apart from what I assume to be evolution progression with paths. Do tell more about your vision. What choices can I adventure
>>86827360Anyone who isn't a childish edge lord retard will pick Option A. I don't live my life for others, I live my life for myself. My happiness>Others opinion of me. Caring about what others think about you is mentally weak, I don't need other people's praise, adoration and respect. Making CYOAs and inventing convoluted mechanics makes me happy, kicking people in the head with flashy kicks during sparring makes me happy, watching movies while hugging my sister makes me happy. All I need is happiness, happiness is stupid and dumb, but only an idiot won't chase after those things that makes them happy. You think you want glory, fame, recognition and all those things until you have those things. But those things are hollow, don't live your life through other people, live your life through yourself, pic realted
>>86827530I wanted to make a story writing system. the pic here is more just the monster evolution chart, which isn't the main relevant part. I figure creating a full system where modules can be released as individual cyoa pages. so think of what I'm currently working on as a rule book or creator notes
>>86827549I can agree in the outcome, living for oneself, but disagree with the means. Living in a golden cage is very much not my idea of paradise, meaning needs to be earned. Suffering is what allows you to experience the peaks of joy in contrast.Option A is overspicing your food until you cannot distinguish anything anymore. Option A is gorging yourself on something that has long lost its appeal and will always feel hollow.Besides that, Option A is the one that gets you>praise, adoration and respect>glory, fame, recognitionwhile Option B leaves you nameless and forgotten not by insignificance but by choice. Social fulfillment is quite literally written into A.>>86827576Nice, doing something similar with a different tone (eta never ever), good luck and Iike the style
>>86827494>great mana crystalThats just ramiel.
>>86827600And Shakespeare wrote it first
>>86827599Meh. I refuse to kill.
>>86827608Evangelion by way of Shakespeare would be something
>>86827614GPT 5 has your back>>86827613Do what thou wilt
>>86827599thanks, though I'm still fairly new to creating my own stuff, I mostly did art for some side gens in towergirls, so that's the extent of my knowledge..>>86827600>well.. bout to get hung for thisnever seen evangalion...
>>86827660The wayward son returns home...As someone making your own art you are already an exception, looking forward to what you end up feeding us
>>86827474>I wonder if anyone ever took the Option A.I would take A. Most lives aren't going to be remembered or make a huge difference, let alone last forever, so if all you want is a quiet and happy lifespan (or however long you get) then its a good deal. Just gotta come to terms with the fact that it ends, and its not like you wouldn't have to do that anyway. B is equally forgotten as an individual, and there is no guarantee that the changes your making are even positive ones, not that you're around to know anymore.
Option A pickers are cute
>>86827723You forgot "uwu" in your bait.
>>86827723thank you, few tell me I'm cute irl but I know I am
>>86827710Both are valid for me. I tend to oscilliate between the two depending on my current mood.The comfy life and the neverending adventure are fun.
>>86827900Why not both? Binary choices disgust me.
>>86827896It's all in the soul, don't worry about the Meatoids>>86827885Thank you for keeping me in line, arbiter of affection
>>86827907I used to think the first one roleplayed the adventure of the second one, and that the second oen eventually reach the comfy world during one of its travel.Both is very good.
>>86827937Agreed. Comfort unearned is not worth it.I want to work for it.
>>86827937The /cyoag/ horseshoe of comfyfaggery
>>86827937you aren't supposed to do that
anyone remember a intergenerational cyoa that was basically a eugenics sim hero-making game?
>>86827549>>86827955"On the aim of science. - What? The final aim of science should be to give man as much pleasure and as little displeasure as possible? But what if pleasure and displeasure are so intertwined that whoever wants as much as possible of one must also have as much as possible of the other - that whoever wants to learn to 'jubilate up to the heavens' must also be prepared for 'grief unto death'? And that may well be the way things are! At least the Stoics believed that this is how things are, and they were consistent when they also desired as little pleasure as possible in order to derive as little pain as possible from life (by using the saying 'The virtuous man is the happiest man', they had both a school slogan for the masses and a fine casuistic delicacy for the refined). Even today you still have the choice: either as little displeasure as possible, in short, lack of pain - and socialists and politicians of all parties fundamentally have no right to promise their people any more than that - or as much displeasure as possible as the price for the growth of a bounty of refined pleasures and joys that hitherto have seldom been tasted. Should you decide on the former, i.e. if you want to decrease and diminish people's susceptibility to pain, you also have to decrease and diminish their capacity for joy. With science one can actually promote either of these goals! So far it may still be better known for its power to deprive man of his joys and make him colder, more statue-like, more stoic. But it might yet be found to be the great giver of pain! - And then its counterforce might at the same time be found: its immense capacity for letting new galaxies of joy flare up!"
>>86827360I drain the world of the option A for mana and arrange the path of the option B protagonist to orchestrate his death.
>>86827692thanks anon, happy to be back
>>86828128So this is the power of option C, dying to B avenging A
>>86828035>The final aim of science should be to give man as much pleasure and as little displeasure as possible? But what if pleasure and displeasure are so intertwined that whoever wants as much as possible of one must also have as much as possible of the other.I 100% agree with you. There can no joy without pain. This is precisely why I do No Nut November and Destory Dick December. It is why I make CYOAs, making CYOAs is not always fun, you can get stuck, get writers block and sometimes you want to give up and quit, but you do it anyways and when you finish your CYOA it's an amazing feeling of accomplishment you get, it's a real high. Only doing things you like and always taking the easy path is weak and will lead to unhappiness and failure. Discipline is key to happiness and long term happiness is hard to achieve. Like fleeting happiness is like watching a fun movie or eating good food, it is nice but you don't get the same sense of powerful joy as when you fight for something hard and then succeed after you put in hardwork and dedication. Like recently I have worked on this kick, called a cartwheel kick. It's a signature move of Saenchai (an amazing thai boxing champion) and it's very hard to learn and even harder to pull of in a fight. Been trying to master this kick for months and last week I finally pulled it off during accutal sparring. I can tell you this, learning this kick have made me fall countless times and it's been a real pain in the ass to just get it right and hit a target. But pulling it off in sparring and seeing that "WTF just happened" look in my partners face was fucking priceless and hilarious, video realtedCartwheel kick (not me but just wanted to show you how it looks like):https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bq46sUUvKhg
>>86828221The video might not have been the best representation of the cartwheel kick I made, like it is a cartwheel kick like how Saenchai does it but I'm doing Jet Li's version of the cartwheel kick which is harder but flashier and harder to pull off, you got to have a lot of core strenght to pull it off. Video realtedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7hKgOIfilc
How many companions is too many?
>>86828221>There can no joy without pain. This is precisely why I do No Nut November and Destory Dick DecemberI want to frame this, beautiful clash of contextsI guess I went for the "Give me pain so I can find joy" and you went for "I want joy, no matter the pain" so fair enoughMartial arts talk is reminding me of the Baki Tournaments untimely death, very sad
>>86828302Looking at the page(s) and going "no way I'll read this wall"Less about amount and more about presentation.
>>86828302>How many companions is too many?No one can tell you that except yourself. Some CYOAs need shit tons of companions and some should not have any companions. Depends on the theme, mechanics and vision you have for your CYOA. Originally I made Dragonfall without any companions. All I wanted was a dragon builder, but the more I thought about the lore of the world I realized I would have to make text walls if I wanted to explain all the lore, but then I thought I could use a companion section to spread out bits and pieces of lore about the world in a more digestable way. I started with 1 page for the companion section which eventually became 2 pages as I had a blast writing all the companions and their short stories. Creative people can be separated into 2 categories, architects who plan everything out and follow through on their design and gardeners who have a half baked plan in mind but improvises along the way. Like you know that you plant a tree, but you never know what kind of tree will come out in the end, which is part of the thrill. I'm a gardener and if you are one two then just let whatever feels right for you happen, no need to stress over things right away. Work on the parts of the CYOA that you have concrete plans on and then let the rest just organically grow and adapt it to the CYOA you have written so far. However if you are an architect I don't know what advice to give.
>>86828409DragonFall 2.0 Remastered Game of the Year Ultimate Edition with Comprehensive Lorebook when
>>86823271Which planeswalker cyoa that anons think is the best? For me its planeswalker rising
Wow, he actually offered good advice this time
>>86828409Hey Tok, how is the newest edition of dragonfall?
>>86828535Wisdom achieved by the event of the monthnot too rare he does it to be honest, I still do art search meditation
>>86826167is this it, or is it maybe the other version?Only ones off the top of my head that are "world creator" cyoa's that are grimdark.
>>86827549Selfish fucktard. Without community, life is meaningless.I want everyone to be happy by my hands.I will strive to ensure everything I do makes the world a better place than when I was born into it.
>>86828577>t. hivemind enjoyer
>>86828562heres the other version
>>86828511>DragonFall 2.0 Remastered Game of the Year Ultimate Edition with Comprehensive Lorebook whenNever, Dragonfall is already 10 pages. I highly dislike CYOAs that are over 10 pages long. CYOAs are very similar to manga in the sense that it is a fast paced medium which has visual story telling, something that differentiates it from a book. A product is only good when it fully utilizes all the strengths of it's medium and does not try to be something it is not. A CYOA is not a book, which is why it should be short, sweet and digestible. It needs thematic design and pictures which both match in art style and match the actual choices they represent. Dragonfall did all this and it is why it is such a beloved CYOA. You can look at the images and the images becomes a window into the world of Elderia. Just by looking at the art you know what the architecture, clothing, weapons and the cultures of the different continents are. When you know that, it is easy to use your imagination to enter Elderia with your build and imagine your adventures there. Image use is key to CYOAs and so is restraint when it comes to pages. A manga is not a book, nor should it aspire to be.
>>86828601>I highly dislike CYOAs that are over 10 pages longExcuses for being a shit writer. You need to reevaluate your pitiful existence, samefag.
>>86828601Were you not considering adding descriptions of T4 features at some point? And what is the problem with supplementary explanations, not unlike the questions you keep having to answer, but in a stronger medium than spread-out imageboard posts.
>>86828577>Selfish fucktard. Without community, life is meaningless.Been reading up on color philosophy for my MTG CYOA. And you sir, are the very embodiment of monowhite.>White puts value in the group, the community, and its civilization as a whole. White believes that suffering is a by-product of individuals not prioritizing the good of the group. White's ultimate goal is peace—a world where there is no unnecessary suffering; a world where life is as good as it can be for each individual; a world where everyone gets along and no one seeks to disturb the bonds of unity that White has worked so long to forge. To govern and protect its community, White makes use of and puts value in a number of broad concepts: morality (ethics, grace, truth), order (law, discipline, duty), uniformity (conformity, religion), and structure (government, planning, reason). More than every other color, White believes there is clear good and evil in the world and it is not too hard to distinguish them.
>>86828577Refer to >>86810964Individual will choosing the greater good is based, the latter imposing itself on the former (or any individual trying to impose collective will it profits from) are cringe
>>86827549Option B allows one to act on the selfish desire found in self-righteousness. And if a man can believe his cause is just, then stopping him becomes difficult. Comfort is a tempting thing but the second option appeals to the hero complex some people have.
>>86828689Not quite. I loathe enforced top-down “order” and “uniformity”.People may live as they please, provided it incurs no harm to anyone else.Just because I strive toward the ideal I desire doesn’t mean I may force others to abide by it.Diplomacy is preferable to violence, and only when there is no other option should conflict be necessary.
>>86828738That being said, I know nothing about MTG lore.What other ideological embodiments exist in that world?
>>86828711>Individual will choosing the greater good is based, the latter… are cringeI agree, full stop.
>>86828787I figured after your retort up there, and respect both the agonism and integrity of argument.
>>86828797If I had rephrased my initial response, it might’ve been better.So be it. I stand by what I wrote.The well-being of the community is, in my opinion, more vital than my own satisfaction.Or rather, I cannot be satisfied unless the community is in good health.
>>86828875As a potential recipient I will keep my mouth shut, and as another individual I agree on the stance. A-fags can tend the hearth and live the good health though, in my opinion
>>86828302Realistically? Assuming each companion is fairly fleshed out then around about 8, give or take two depending on how long their descriptions are. Reading a CYOA I'll start skipping reading companions or only looking at the ones who immediately grab me after that point.More after that is fine, have a separate companion page, no problem with providing more free content. But it should be separate to the actual CYOA. If the companions are intended to provide actual important information or worldbuilding that you'd consider important for the read, eight.
>>86829005I want JRPG levels of companions.
>>86824655>Because it's grimdark shit.It's not grimdark at all.
>>86829184Yes the fuck it is.
>>86829190Hitler killed a demiurge.
>>86829240Interesting idea for a setting but why the fuck are we still meandering through Samsara then, genius
>>86829249he transformed into the new godhead since suffering is a universal constant
>>86829190It's really not. You have a modern city with television and creature comforts like chocolate, stores, and cars.
>>86829415>you have a modern cityDamn I was completely uninvolved but now you convinced me, it really is grimdark
>>86829422>ModernThe cities look more classic in design like Victorian and Gothic.
>>86829240Give me the option for a peaceful resolution to the conflict.
>>86829496Can a prisoner ever make peace with a warden, without both first losing their roles completely? What is the prisoner to do in the face of a warden who refuses to renounce his role.
Still no good OC?Looks like this general is going to have to be put down.
>>86829567Dead generals are a board staple.
>>86823271Witness, I'm just gonna treat the world as a big tv. Why watch historical shows when I can go there and relieve it with all my senses? As for earning a living I get insider knowledge about whatever I want so it won't be hard. And for productivity and good of humankind I can help with historical research a lot.
>>86829415I don't think grimdark means what you think it means. Grimdark doesn't strictly mean a post apocalyptic or a hell world like Kingdom Death, though there is obviously some overlap. Grimdark actually comes from Warhammer 40k. Now there are nice places in 40k. Plenty of them in fact. But the issue is that the setting as a whole has some seriously fucked up shit happening that threatens to snowball out of control and consume everything. There aren't any simple or easy solutions to fix the existential threats to the setting. And what possible solutions that *might* exist are long shots that could easily fail and possibly make things even worse.
>>86829859You don't think the genocidal forever war between the "vampires" and "humans" threatens to snowball out of control and consume everything?
>>86829859By that logic all Italics CYOAs are grimdark.
>>86829876Read the post chain a bit more carefully. I was responding to someone who said that it wasn't grimdark and explaining why it was.>>86829951Yes, and?
>>86830027No worries, it happens.
>>86827360>die nameless>untold Cringe
>>86830097>t. addicted to external validation
>>86830020>Yes, and?Italics CYOAs aren't grimdark.>>86829859Apocrypha isn't grimdark, you're just being a brainlet. Vampires are fucking pussies that will die at the slightest bit of sunlight or UV rays.
>>86830306Yes they are. You will never convince me. Maybe it won't be in the inevitable remake.But in the current version? Yes the fuck it is.
>>86830306>Vampires are fucking pussies that will die at the slightest bit of sunlight or UV rays.And humans are fucking pussies since they can only last a few seconds before going unconscious if you cut them off from oxygenated air.That's a pretty weaksause weakness.
>>86829240In what cyoa?
>>86830363I can hold my breath for 150 seconds vampire get fucked
>>86830624In a lot of universes Vampire don't instantly die when exposed to sunlight either.
>>86824655>>86824663Grimdark can be good. I don't know what series of memes and movie analysis on YouTube convinced you it couldn't, but it can. Hamlet is grimdark.
>>86830645You'll find it harder to remove oxygen from the atmosphere than expose someone to sunlight
>>86830658>Grimdark can be goodNo, it can't.
>>86830662Ok but what about vampire's hypnotic capacities? The extremely long lifespan? The immense strength? All in all it just seems obvious to me vampires are more powerful than humans. And all of fiction agrees, unless I missed some where vampires are a put-upon minority (which would be a good idea).>>86830672Nice argument, you're gay.
>>86830700For a CYOA... Why would the player choose to suffer?
>>86830705Even assuming that's the choice, a lot of people would prefer a difficult but interesting life…
>>86830720>difficult but interesting lifeNot in a grimdark manner. Some conflict is fine, but at a certain point, why bother?Me, I want a mix of slice of life and adventure. Sans the edge of grimdark.
>>86830740I also think a large, large percentage of people who play CYOAs imagine themselves watching or *playing* as the main character, not actually living it first-person and day-to-day.
>>86830700Sure they are better in a world without sunAlso their reliance on human blood is their biggest weakness
Working on my cyoa, but it's so complex and deep I worry it has moved beyond my gigabrain to understand.
>>86831155Same, my point system is so complex that you need a math degree and a complex understanding of your biometric measurements to even begin to play it. I tried playtesting it but I couldn't even make it past the 65th page intro.Oh well, back to the drawing board.
>>86829859I always took grimdark to refer to settings like 40ks intentionally 'dark to the point of parody' setting. 40k should not be treated as a serious setting, it's a setting where things are unreasonably, over the top dark because at a certain point it starts getting kind of funny. A setting where the settings equivalent of jesus is a skeleton on a throne being fed the blood and flesh of innocent worshippers, and where spaceships are miles long and more advanced than anything we have but they load their munitions by rope and whip because it's easier than fixing the autoloader. Thats grimdark for me. It's not just darkness. It's not just 'advanced darkness'. It's *baroque* darkness.You shouldnt have a setting which is a 'little' grimdark. Grimdark is everything we see being as bad as it can possibly be at all times to the point where being dark is obviously the point. And most of the time that's fucking uninteresting, it's only the slowly slipping veneer of parody that 40k has been losing over the years (as the people who made it and had interests in history and politics and humour and literature and showed that in their setting got slowly replaced by people who's interests were fucking 40k) that saves it from grimness induced apathy.An actual serious grimdark setting is basically an oxymoron because the point is that it's dark far past the point of absurdity. The word for a setting that is trying to be grimdark taken seriously is 'shit'. See also GOT, Overlord etc.Not that I know how this relates to the original argument. I may be bored, but i've never been so bored that reading one of italic's cyoas seemed more appealing than doing my laundry or rubbing a cactus up and down my taint.
>year of our Lord anno dommni 2022, in the 25th day of the 11th month>still no echoes part 2the spring of youth lies dead
>>86828562Yeah bro this is it! I think it was when I saw >>86828596 in the previous thread I felt some sort of deja vu because the carnivorous plant option wasn't there. Thanks! A lot of anons are helping me today!!!
>>86827360Exposure to Urobuchi's works during my developmental years has made my fetishes include killing things with swords and dying a hopeless, meaningless, tragic death that I foolishly arranged for myself so I need to go with B.
>>86831342Damn, that's a lot of words I'm not reading.
>>86827549I can't believe I agree wholeheartedly with Tok on something.
>>86824655I can not care less about whether this person's stories are adventurous or SUPER DYSTOPIAN GUISE because he is committed to presenting his paracosms in the least interesting ways of all. Nothing pertaining to the player is important, (You) are made to feel like an NPC when everything pertaining to you is totally halfassed. It's not chuunibyou in the slightest. I can enjoy cruel, decrepit and failing universes. Not mattering in any world, grim or not, is just a starting point. It can be rectified. But to not matter to yourself, to be...just an accessory to these women, is something that makes it impossible to start. Italics fans ought to stop complaining about 'post story waifu' CYOAs because they remove the cruft of his work and focus on the only thing that matters to him, making them the most honest content that he has ever made.
>86832209You are doing these long paragraph post on purpose and should neck yourself. You're worse than Italics and Tok combined.
>>86832209ah if only the rest of my cyoa made in the drivedid any anon save all of it?speaking of italics, echoes only attracted me because i miss sol school battle anime
>>86832209>Nothing pertaining to the Player is important.>You are an NPCSo you never read an Italics CYOA?
>>86832448>did any anon save all of it?I did it for starting a multiplayer that died instantly, much like any attempt at bringing italics' content to /mcyoag/.
>>86832497that is to be expected, it was based off a unfinished ttrpg anywaywhy did it die, did anon get filtered?
OC(?) from an unidentifiable sourcenot mine of course, i am a lazy fag
>>86832602now that i notice it, it has a shitty resolution too
>>86832497>>86832511>why did it dieBeing based off of an unfinished TTRPG. The one person with a character also affirmed that you can own basically everything in a single month.>>86832486I've played some, but I have never read any of them, as it would mean going past the options that failed to hook me in and looking at the characters that actually matter.
>>86832625own everything as in?the demo of the ttrpg?
>>86832625>>86832638Let me retrieve the character in question.>Given two or three months you would be maxxed out on everything so no time could ever pass meaningfully in the roleplay.>But at the same time theres zero incentive to start out weak in something. ITs just not salvagable as a multiplayer how we do them.https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/86719415/#86733056
>>86832648they did try to balance it with the frequent disasters that come with fixer work i.e. biting off more than they can chew and being mutilated every week and the healthcare that comes with it?
Schizposters really have claimed this general.
This lull in activity and OC posting is perfect for dropping OC.I just happen to be almost ready. But I can see it now... even though they had all this time to post it, some big name author will post the next big thing, right ahead of mine!
>>86832671always have been
>>86833231And? Post it when you finish or you won't post at all.
>>86833589oh I'm gonna post. I'm gonna do exactly as I have spoken, soon enough...I'm just suspicious of what appear to be very favorable conditions...
I'm literally sitting on 3 OCs that I'll only post when anon posts his shitty CYOA.
>>86833676no you don'tno you don't
>>86827494more up to date
>>86833676I'm sitting on one that I've decided I'll only post when someone asks for me by author name so never ever
>>86833822Give me one hint and I'll have you figured out
>>86833231SHINE will theorically drop in the next few days so you might be right. But you should focus on your own OC, not the release of others. Otherwise you might never post it.
>>86831356JUST A FEW MORE DAYS TRUST THE PLAN
>>86833855It's been over a year since my last OC
>>86826598>>86826754>>86826777The Fisherwoman is a visitor. She does not own or control anything regarding East Beach
>>86833998...Perhaps my suspicion about her was unwarranted and there is no anglerfish in this island.Still, without the clarification about "no local threats here" you can understand the sheer weirdness of her presence.
>>86834020By the context of this game, "local" and "native" are synonymous
>>86834048>no native threats>fisherwoman is a visitorNow I notice you didn't confirm or deny anything about her status, just that she doesn't control the area. Just when I got over the paranoia. Fuck.
>>86834069I'm sorry, anom. The next couple of CYOAs I have in mind will be a little less... troubling? Ambiguous? Maybe
>>86834112It's okay. It's the good kind of confusing - the one that make you seek answers instead of despairing. At least we'll be invested in clearing that damn island.
>>86834136I'm glad you think so.I spent my downtime at work proofreading SHINE today.Found some errors that I meant to correct some time ago.About to finish the corrections. Then I will die for a few hours, then go to work, and assemble the art that will be used for the super secret/true ending.Thanks to the expected yet highly undesired random things that came up, I am much more pressed to meet this deadline than I was a couple days ago. But especially for you, and anyone else following the project, I very much do not want to miss it
>>86828268I can't really say that I would prefer a world in which the Nazis had won. But I think I'd at least like to see what that world's 2022 would have been like, for comparison's sake.
Brothers, who is the greatest of authors and why is it Peil?
>>86823902Transexual faggots are mentally ill. Their idea of daydreaming involves auto-mutilation and a painful death.You should not try ton understand them.
>>86834669No, I simply must rant at the narrator while ignoring the whole context.
>>86828035With that kind of logic you can justify tying someone to a chair and torturing him. The joy he'll feel when he's free will truly be great, hence we should strive to do so to others, to>give as much displeasure as possible as the price for the growth of a bounty of refined pleasures and joys"pain is good" is a retarded take. You want what comes from pains, not pain itself.
>>86834182Hoping you make it in time
>>86834182Treat yourself once you're done.
>>86832602It is not OC. I would know as i was there when it was born years ago.
>>86834751Y-You watched them birth a CYOA? Pervert!
>>86827549>I don't need other people's praise, adoration and respect.lol. lmao
>>86834638A weak response from a even weaker man. I genuinely pity your parents.
>>86834930His parents are probably one of the main reasons as to why he’s like that in the first place.
>>86835014Years later I notice it's saved as "ss".Perfection.
>>86835014This one would unironically be high on my list of "you get one CYOA made real" stuffNot even the big sister fetish stuff as that isn't my cup of tea, but the chance to start again in such a comfy world sure does seem nice.
>>86835090The author had a brainfart. It was too good to not save.>>86835097Same. Past the obvious fetish most of the older siblings and friends can teach you valuable things, and the world sounds comfy enough to warrant an incarnation.
Should I even bother finishing my Christmas cyoa? Would anyone really care?
>>86835281I won't, I'm sorry anon.
>>86835281maybe i will
>>86835281i'll care if it's good, don't bother if you're making a bad cyoa
>>86834984after the first sentence is it just lorem impsum or am i gunna waste going to translate that
>>86834984"Traits" and the quote are real. I don't know about the rest, since I don't understand latin.
>>86835907Meant for (>>86835897), sorry.
>>86835907>>86835914sweet about to boot up google translateyou the maker?the anon is from call of the night btw
>>86835921Nope. I saved it because it reminded me of pic related so I could put both in the same folder for romantic purposes.
>>86835940Why do I cost 30 points?More importantly, would she pay 30 points for me?
>>86836005You're apparently a bit better than the Nice Guy, hence the five more points.And probably. I saw anons making builds for Zynthia because they were curious, others picking unloved characters for synergy and some just wanting the comfy feel. Or she detect some value you won't be able to see in the mirror. I'm sure she can muster a reason to pick you.
>>86836026I'm surprised I'm not the total mess instead
>>86836042Technically since every option show a window "outside" you could argue that you are all three, and she's just choosing how she see you.
can you chain cyoas?
>>86835940>Crystal Cafe /cyoag/
>>86836096Jumpchain is entirely based around that concept, but I find it boring. After a few "worlds", where is the adventure? I don't understand how they find using out fo context powers to steamroll through the settings pleasant either. It's like admitting you couldn't "win" without going meta. You can probably link some. The 10 yo kid from (>>86835014) eventually become "gifted" (>>86826167) and once he finally reach high school it's the Demon Eyes scenario.
>>86836096you can do whatever you want with your imaginary fun times anon, just be prepared for us to call you a fag about it
>>86836157tbf how many settings could a normal person win?
>>86836282It depends on what the person is allowed to have. Everybody can win Serene Serendipity; the Hospital is technically winnable through grit, and I wouldn't wish Blood Magic on anybody. Still, most "urban" CYOAs should work, just like the ones without threats.
>>86835940>>86834984here is the translation as rough as it isFood? level or want to increase the trucks. Aenean?s indifference to the author that he should drink, if not the result of the product itself, nor sedges salad level thats the priceBut the hatred of the two is a lot of violencethe course is a very interesting one, diseases wants to accuse himself. In fact, the country is not tainted by hatred, but it is not the Moor who is the author of the age of life, the author of football in the field.But it is not the Moorish life of the creator of football in the field.The class is suitable for the silent society, and they turn to the shores through our marriages, through the projects of the Hymenaeus.The judgment of the Moors is true.There is no such thing as a pot of football protein.But neither did the developer.But to finance unless.Now the yeast is cooking.high class world cup shitpost based anon
>>86836314I remember when one anon posted "the first cyoa you think of is the one you're stuck in" and I thought of Blood Magic
>>86836227This is 4chan. We're gonna call each other fags regardless, so he might as well go for it.
>>86835014Thanks for reposting
>>86836372Choose the Quarantaine and wait out the apocalypse. Nobody from the outside can breach it, and you may have an out if you convince the Gatekeeper to help you.
>>86836490the tok strategy
I miss SDA
>>86836497He's dimwitted and abrasive, but the self-preservation is a good thing in this scenario. Most factions will make your life hell - if you don't have a solid plan to deal with them, isolationism is your best bet.
>>86836157>>86836096jumpchain is that concept done badly, with stupid rules made to fit the original few jumpsa more freeform cyoa-meld can be enjoyable, but you have to be carefully selective
>>86836372>the first cyoa you think of is the one you're stuck indelinquent quest for mecould be a lot worse
>>86836532>>86836372hmm i just did this right now and for some reason it was power creator xenon, and it isn't even my favorite of the power creators
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/86768907/#86784560you get to romance only one, the others know you didn't choose them and have your location, who do you pick
>>86836005Meta characters tend to be pretty popular by default.
>>86836522Abrasive, sure. But how the fuck am I dimwitted? I am the pinnacle of cunning and creativity. Pic realted
>>86836605>I'm the pinnacle of cunning and creativityNobody who said it out loud ever was, anon.
>>86836605>pinnacle of cunning and creativityLol, lmao even.>>86836614It's Tok.
>>86836614>Nobody who said it out loud ever was, anon.I didn't say it out loud. I quietly wrote it with the buttons of my keyboard.
>>86836581Assuming love redeem, the anglerfish. (Say, since Glowfish existence is entirely due to her, is she technically a single mother? Metaphorically?)Otherwise it's between the tide and the usurper. I want to see who samefagged in the former, and annoy the second.
>>86836639I kneel before that unrivaled genius.
>>86836639those are keys, not buttons, brainletyou even called it a keyboard, not a buttonboard, you're a double brainlet
>>86836779Just call him a retard you fucking pussy.
>>86836639he wrote on a public forum therefore his justification shit
>>86836790>just make your insult more generic and therefore sting lessfuck off, brainlet
>>86836605is this oc
I'm stirring up the shit in the jumpchain thread and they're crying their redditor tears kek
>>86836847Nah. It's at least a month old, and you can find another version of it in the trash thread. Why you need two versions eludes me, but then again I never bothered to check the differences.
>>86836862epic troll bro xD
>>86836862have my upvote
>>86836862the only good thing I'll say about jumpchain is that its a way to find cyoas (even if ones stuck in a stifling format) for niche franchises, and while most of them are low effort garbage every now and then you find some that clearly had some love for the source material behind them, either in graphic design or fun scenariosthose are the exception though
>>86836883yeah, i like using them without the jump conceit where they're just an okay cyoa, and some are more than okay, i remember the eclipse phase jumpchain is really nicetrying to string even two jumps together is wonky as shit, and more than two is impossible for me, they just clash too much
>>86836890What I am supposed to see there?
>>86836924it's anon's final yell for help, just ignore it and it will go away
>>86836902>trying to string even two jumps together is wonky as shit, and more than two is impossible for me, they just clash too muchyeah, the shit they do is self indulgent even by cyoa player standardsI can think of a small handful of scenarios where it'd be a fun idea to take stuff from one setting to another, but largely its just wank
>>86836939I like to pretend my character have the Laboratorium or the Mind Overwrite and travel through worlds without anything else. Don't you just snowball into godhood if you don't stop after 5-6 worlds without restraints?
>>86836968I like it when it's done with restraint. Become a semi-passive observer who helps out via indirect actions unless more is needed.
>>86836798the fact that you think brainlet isn’t a generic insult makes me think you’re somewhat of a dull and ironically uncreative person so I’ll just let you win this argument. lol.
>>86836968>Don't you just snowball into godhood if you don't stop after 5-6 worlds without restraints?Unless you're actively hampering yourself and/or going to specifically low powered settings, yeah
They be seething
>>86837000i said more generic, you brainlet retard mongrel, learn to read
What would you prefer, a CYOA thats explicitly based on a very forgettable LN/anime series, or one that steals the same general setup and slaps a coat of donut steel OC characters and concepts over it
>>86837036option 2 so i can call you lame
Jump chain niggas still malding LMAO
>>86837112Wait, why would they be mad? We're the ones who're less popular than them.
>>86837112not your containment board
is there a BLACKED cyoa?
>>86837136yes, more than one, go ask in the trash general though
>>86837136Probably in /trash/.
>>86837117Its like how fortnite is the most popular game but fortnitefags still seethe at actual good games like elden ring and sekiro for being better than their game. Popular =/= good, and they know this. That's why they deflect by bragging about how their thread gets 1000 posts or whatever. Even if its just shitposts about power level meta gamer shit every day.
>>86837160>actual good games like elden ringOh, you.
>>86837160>fortnitefags still seethe at actual good games like elden ring and sekiro for being better than their gameThey do?
>>86837164why was it not a good game, anon? i quite liked it myself, even if the floaty physics and wonky targeting system bring it down a bit
>>86837175The open world was frequently boring, the level design was often bad outside of a few key areas (and those areas just made me wish the whole game was like that), there was FAR too much fucking emphasis on le epic boss battles with stupid oooh-I'm-gonna-getcha-SIKE! style windup animations, and it was basically a continuation of everything wrong with DSIII (minus the cringey fanservice in DSIII).
>>86837203agreedfortnite shit too
>>86837214I couldn't comment. I've never felt the urge to play it.
>>86837203that sounds like you enjoyed the majority of the gameanyway i liked the world, while it was often generic it was also something you can just skip for the most part
>>86837238>that sounds like you enjoyed the majority of the gameI mean nobody was holding a gun to my head. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a good game, though. Just a competent one. I wouldn't put it on any lists, and I did eventually drop it -- not even deliberately, it was one of those sad ways you stop playing a game where you just take a break for a few days and then never get the urge to pick it up again.The fact you could skip the world was one of the things I didn't like. Like fuck, there would be flashes of greatness where you REALLY felt like you were adventuring through this dark fantasy world and discovering something hidden and evil and then you'd be back to nothing.
>>86837257that's a shame, i hope you saw the haligtree and azula dungeons, those were kino
>>86837269I didn't. I'll probably get back to the game at some point, but all it actually did was make me start another run of Dark Souls lol.
>>86837289just skip the side content if you do, go for the later legacy dungeons and the underground city, those were the best
>>86823383>monsterwaifu>relaxing & datingI still have to be better, to lift and read.>my apartment, her apartment>supportiveI want someone who makes me want to be better, for her.
why is the multiplayer thread so weird? i had fun with hogwarts and OR back then but it feels wrong now
>>86837424Don't know, don't care.
>>86837499cared enough to reply
>>86837461>casually posting the best cyoa of all!!!
>>86837424Well the general weirdness of anons aside, IMO the main problem is they're forcing it by starting too many MPs and discarding them too rapidly. The last few I made a build for got buried before they had a chance to get anywhere interesting and I don't think it'll get any better.
>>86837424Lol remember when they kept saying multiplayer posting couldn't support its own thread. Hurrrr its going to die any second now!!!!
>>86837768Multiplayer CYOAG will literally die no different from PAG or MGG or HPG. Multiplayer CYOAs are of limited supplies and zero production. And if they keep write fagging, some mod will boot them to QST.
>>86837175Arbitrary restrictions and not a single fucking weapon/hybrid spell tools were infuriating no hybrid scaling weapons other than fire and flame either.WHY THE FUCK IS THERE LIKE 3 SPELL CATEGORIES WITH HYBRID SCALING WHEN THE GAME DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE TOOLS TO MIX UP EVERYTHING TOGETHER PROPERLY?
>>86837908Anon ain't old enough to remember the Power Armour threads.
>>86837796>Illusionist, Memory Stealer, Clairvoyance, CroneAn old man that steal horrid memories and prevent disasters. Only communicate indirectly via illusions and notes.>Generosity, Vicarious Life, Fatebound, Speak through thoughts, Limbless Kinesis, AnonymityMy soulmate take everything and I communicate with her via mindreading. I'm just a friendly voice in her head.I wanted to do an ultimate mage build but I'm invited elsewhere. Fun CYOA.
>>86837993>steal horrid memoriesJourney before destination anon. If I pretend I didn't do those things, it would be like I hadn't done them at all.How can I become better by not mentally blocking off my poor behaviour, but actually erasing the memories in total?
>>86837908Bro this thread is going to die with human civilization! We may as well stop posting!
>>86838104Ah, I wouldn't take everything. In the best case scenario I'd only pick things once you already had your character development. You don't need to remember how awful it was, let the memory fades. Alternatively it makes for a good misguided hero.
>>86837908are you retarded? all those examples are were dedicated to a single cyoa. mcyoag is for multiplayer with every cyoa. its completely different, more like jumpchain.
>>86836869>Why you need two versions eludes me, but then again I never bothered to check the differences.NSFW pics are not allowed on /tg/ and are allowed on /trash/. Now make a guess why there are 2 versions.
updatedI realized I needed room for the blurb
>>86837984>tfw you seen all the multiple threads spawns live and die in your time in the CYOAG trenches.MCYOAG will pass no different.
>>86827450Tankista has said that if you don't pick Option B (Nameless Swordsman) and kill the head of the Convention, our Earth is the next one strip mined for mana. Got any friends/family you care about, Anon?
>>86828018Languid Cicada's Inherited Bloodlines
>>86834136Ferrean has said that the remake for Half-Dragon Roommate will be finished sometime around the heat death of the universe. So why not post the old - but finished - version?
>>86836514Did you catch his remake of Battlemage (with AI art)? It came out . . .like two weeks ago.
>>86838703Due to multiverse shenanigans, I'm sure (You) took the other option too.
>>86827360>Option AI see the Russian finally learnt German. It's time for some good ol' Gay Science up in this bitch!>anon tries to be edgy and cringe, and inadvertently copy-pastes a 200 IQ GermanEverything went according to keikaku
>>86836522Why play at all, then? If you just want a quiet comfy life, Blood Magic would hardly be my first recommendation. In other words, by playing it, you're admiting that you want to live an adventurous life.
>>86838772>remake>it's just changing picturesBro...
>>86838703>Got any friends/family you care about, Anon?None
>>86838813SDA also added two new factions you can pick . . .although yeah, there wasn't a lot else new in the update to Battlemage.
>>86838816I'm sorry to hear that. Hope things get better soon
>>86838786I was going on the assumption you were thrown into it against your better judgement. Of course if you have the choice you don't approach Sheol or the Convention itself.
>>86838816Anon continutes to be an average Chad-poster.
>>86838816I feel for you.
>>86829240There is no real reason to talk about it these days. I definitely want to update it at some point in the future. Flesh out the world more, give enemy variety, improve how players make their builds, and have quests for a world cloaked in eternal night.
>>86824604Grands made Za Warudo?
>>86838977>>86824648No, I made a mistake and deleted the wrong reply and number. Apocrypha's Fuhrer isn't technically Hitler-Hitler.
>>86838875. . .You'd really turn down the chance for the adventure of a lifetime? Not to mention the magic lessons and the chance to be a hero?
>>86839002>Narrator is a guyFastest way to make me drop a story.
>>86838991In the cosmology of Apocrypha, yeah, technically, they were there first and then the Ancestor came and they decided to share the world. Then the Ancestor decided to do something with it and kicked the Grands out and claimed the world as their own.It's just demiurges doing demiurge things.
>>86839015>Narrator is a girlCo->Narrator is 0^0Dropped
>>86838991No. Apparently worlds pop up in their primordial state or something. The grands were first on finding it but they were fine with sharing so long it didnt changed it up because for them it was already perfect. He changed it anyways
>>86839009Why? That's so retarded
>>86839046The Ancestor is an asshole and the Grands are the good guys
Anyone in a good position to make a new thread?
>>86839002Of course I would. If possible I'd make a build for every Tankista CYOA to secure the future.But that's for my alternate selves. I'm content to be be the Empyrean version, free for all the conspiracy and the Usurper. And my family/friends will suffer if the world go to shit so meh.Besides they will visit me ala Terminator so more alternates selves the better.
>>86839058Can you go be a gay fucker someplace else? Thanks...
>>86839055anon don't want to read a cyoa where Charlotte is there
>>86839075Give me a cyoa to post and I can.I won't quote those gayass links OP does though.
>>86839110That's my nightmare. To find out that "I" am a placeholder, while the "real" me is off having an amazing adventure.
>>86839114How am I gay? For not caring who the narrator is when I read? You're probably a closeted faggot who gets butterflies in your stomach when you hear a male voice, you fucking whore.You're the omega faggot
fresh bread, massa>>86839192>>86839192>>86839192
>>86839155>n-no y-you're the fwaggot!
>>86839150I wonder what kind of CYOA lead to our current existence.And see it that way - maybe your have some epic fate in store that start later or at your death. It would be fun to track down the (You) that made your fate. Until someone else track YOU down.
>>86839009>>86839114What the fuck is wrong with you. Do you think being narrated to is having sex or something? Lmao...
>>86839290Imagine listening to another male. He is literally forcing his thoughts inside you. Give it enough time and he'll be forcing himself inside of you. Miss me with that gay shit.
>>86836862What are you talking about...>Unironic kisekae avatarHOLY CRAP
>>86838703there are explicitly several different versions of (you) that made different choices, I'm sure one of them took option B, even if you take option A. That (you) is even an option in the cyoa.
>>86839557The fact that Nameless (B) and Avalon (A) are both present in Magocratic Convention support your claim.
>>86837036I like the donut option.