Draw Step Vendilion Clique Edition Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/october-10-2022-banned-and-restricted-announcement>Rules change (for unfinity)https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/comprehensive-rules-changes-2022-10-18>Wotc selling you proxies for 1000$https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/celebrate-30-years-magic-gathering-30th-anniversary-edition-2022-10-04>Wotc profits going down despite the amount of new productshttps://www.wargamer.com/dnd/mtg-wizards-of-the-coast-revenue-2022-q3>Upcoming crossover: Lord of the Rings (legal in modern)https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/lord-rings-tales-middle-earthtm-format-legality-2021-08-24#>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/>What is EDH? (returning)https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listhttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/https://aetherhub.com/Metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/http://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://gatherer.wizards.com/https://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed) (embed)>Play online for freeuntap.inhttps://dr4ft.info/>Previously>>86815682>TQFavorite card that lets you look at your opponents hand?
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arena's historic format is actually fun wtf?
>friends only play cOOOOOOooOOOOmander>want to play real magic and not the walking dead and godzilla vs the transformers.>build multiple blinged out tier 1 paper modern decks and play with myself>mfw
>>86823731No, it isn't. This game isn't fun when you can't talk to your opponent. Why did WoTC forget that?>>86823778Commander isn't MTG, but Modern isn't either.
>>86823778What is real magic? Just playing with whatever cards you got?
>>86823789Playing for ante.
>>86823778why not just play with your friends?
>>86823778I play coomander and know exactly zero people who have a walking dead/godzilla/transformers deck.
>>86823833>I play coomanderI'm so sorry. I hope it's not contagious.
I played commander in 2017 and I remember having a miserable time >3-5k decks by guys who barely make above minimum wage in the same groups as guys playing slightly altered precon>commander only players claiming that commander is a competitive format >redditors who seethe at any removal or board clears and want 5 hour games where nobody does anything >endless free mulligans that enable combo niggers to always do wellAlso waiting 15 minutes between your turns is just awful and I hear they've released a lot of commander bait power creep the last few years
>>86823883yeah its pretty much still that on a surface levelmost people moved to discord communities to try and get regular groups of decent guys going
>>86823892>discord communities>regular groups of decent guysPick one
Anyone play in Houston? I've gone to work few places for drafts but haven't found anything too appealing
>>86823851Too late you're infected>>86823883>3-5k decks by guys who barely make above minimum wage in the same groups as guys playing slightly altered preconI have no fucking clue how people afford this.
>>86823954>Too late you're infectedanon using those commander brokeback mountains again
>play commander>friend starts getting a good board>he nukes another friend down to a life>I kill him during my turn with commander damage>has vendetta against me every single other multiplayer matchBetter yet:>play first creature>everyone piles on whoever has any advantage>games are always a standstill >combo is the only way to go>local meta devolved into shuffle, first to combo, shuffle againIt truly is a pathetic format...
>opponent draws their opening seven>opponent sighs and says "yep, this is a hand of magic the gathering cards"
>untap>upkeep >draw for turn>play island >pass the turn to youAll out loud every turn >loudly sighs when you have a single piece of removal that stops his entire hand because he didn't want to mulligan
you guys are over reacting about legacy initiative
>>86824344how? it's broken
>>86824344I hated monarch so i hate initiative even though i havent faced it at all yet
>>86823787>talkingThe single most toxic shit in any pvp game. No thanks I don't give a shit what you have to say, just play the game. Wanna shit talk? Go complain on reddit.
>the absolute state of MtG
>>86824767mtg has always had a lot of ramp so it's wheelchair accessible
Hello friends have you bought your 30th Anniversary edition packs? I bought 8! Hoping to pull one of the power nine. Also have a case of Brothers War collectors on order!
>>86824862Yeah bro, I totally dropped a few fat bucks for the anniversary edition! It's a complete steal, only 1000$ + tax for 4 packs of pure joy
>>86824862>>86824916My friends and I went in for 3 boxes, that's 3 packs each for 4 people, enough for a 4-man draft pod! I can't wait, best $3,000 I ever spent.
>>86824862Nah, but I do have 4 extra Countdown Kits.
>>86824943Our group ordered 3 boxes each (so a total of 6 people x 3) so we can team draft 4 times! It was expensive for sure, but we put aside some of our monthly funk pop money to be able to crank out a few epic drafts
>>86823778Oink oink lil piggy and his hog friends.
>>86824344Initiative and monarch are inherently broken like energy, except they are both resource and engine and reward you for winning, making you win harder.Initiative is better monarch, and by defacto makes stalemates into blowouts. You'd know why this is bad if you played magic.t. Paupergod (only players able to do card evaluation as we don't play piggy play card draw card do thing mythic constructed)
>>86823180>TQare there any non-blue non-black cards that allow you to do that?
>>86824366>>86824379>>86824397>>86825354ITT: Blueniggers seething
>>86825593Don't reply to me, swine, unless you are posting pauperchud decks.
>>86823883>be me>keep being harassed by people at my LGS to try out coooooooooomander>I finally agree to come to coooooooooooooomander night>LGS allows proxies for cooooooooomander>entry $12 but winner gets 4 packs each round (2 rounds)>have idea>built mono white aggro with heavy land hate>print out all the fast mana rocks and other degenerate cards>show up>game 1>turn 1 cast my commander and have 5 mana >turn 2 do attack and do some other play>turn 3 ravages of war>other players get angry>turn 4 they scoop>round 2 ends fairly identically>store owner tells me that I was complained about by 7 people >go home with 8 packsI learned that night that commander players are truly the most insufferable players in magic
>>86825737Commander players are the biggest whiners ever
>>86825743They really are, it's insane
>>86825737Basneedo.Tournament are for competition no holds barred.
>>86823778>playing modern horizons block constucted is SOOOOOOO superior to those commander babbies, amirite guysWorse than a faggot.
>>86825805At least modern players don't complain when you play a removal spell
>>86825815They do then poop their diapers.Pioqueers (spawn of the eternal memedernette) do too.
>>86825737smartwhy didn't those degenerates run something that could have stopped this i have no idea. "unfun" i guess?
>>86825815Well, yeah, it's impossible to play any strategy anymore that doesn't revolve around removing a turn one ragavan or to win turn three Amulet Bloom deck. It's almost like the only format where you could play anything that resembles what modern used to look like is in the casual format and people want to get away from your modern horizons rimjob format. Auto-win threats that have to be answered immediately are fair game to remove but in older formats you used to be able to get accrued value from having a creature on the field. Every tarmogoyf wasn't immediately answered by one mana removal every time it hit the field. That's honestly why people loved tarmogoyf, was because it handled the bolt test handily. I think about ten years ago you could flaunt a sense of superiority for being a modern player over commander and standard, but you're both in a rotating format and your format has zero variance getting the worst of both formats. If you played commander, you could be playing a game you've never seen before and actually have to push yourself as a pilot to make choices, but modern is so played out, that you could staple a flowchart to a retard, give them your deck and it'd play out all the same.So I mean, lap it up in your "competitive" format, that's just a bowling alley with the gutters shored up for deck building predesignated by the FIRE design at WOTC and flowchart the top eight most popular decks that kill you on turn 3-4 or it's over.
>>86825883you know - weird thing to me is that there are modern cards banned in legacy, like ragavan, dreadhorde arcanist, and wrenn n 6.makes me wonder if modern deck tailored to beat a legacy deck would do so
>>86825883>If you played commander, you could be playing a game you've never seen before and actually have to push yourself as a pilot to make choicesL O L
>>86825902Those card SHOULD be banned in all formats, but WOTC can't or else they will have to admit that they printed a supplemental to the eternal format that only made the format worse.>>86825922What deck in modern now is NOT comprised mostly of cards from the past three years? If you play one FNM, you have seen everything this format is capable of. The deckpool is so fucking limited. In commander you can expect you will see somebody slotting in pet cards that have no reason to see play but still do something you didn't expect.
>>86825902Probably, but it wouldn't mean much. I'm pretty sure a standard deck could beat some legacy deck just because they wouldn't have an answer to card with CMC greater than 4 but that doesn't mean standard power level is higher.
Ah yes the great cuckmander pilot choices>Did I get attacked before turn 12?Cry>Did someone else do an infinite combo uncontestedCry>Did anyone counter anythingCry>Did anyone play any mana denialCry>Do I win my big nig 1 or big nig 2 or infinite combos from 1 to 10?
>>86825959You tell them, sister!>>86825971>I can only play delver in any format I play>I must play delver style decks no matter what>If I cannot play delver, this format sucksAh, yes, flow chart magic to a "T". I've hated delver 10 years ago for what it did to magic and I still hate how it warped everything into a tunnel of denying everything your opponent is doing. You've played the game if you played delver, you've only played a warped concept of it.
>>86823808>play shandalar>win battle, get their shit common as ante>lose battle, they get my winconebin
>>86826182>losing Must be some sort of mtg thing
>>86825902The three cards you mentioned are all banned because Legacy has Force of Will and Daze. They're much easier to answer in Modern. >Why not ban FoW and Daze?Because then combo is actually good. >Why not ban combo? Because having a free answer to the main gatekeeper in the format makes people who sleeve up Brainstorm feel smart.
wholesome wotc promoting proxy usagehttps://old.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/z3c790/haha_very_funny_wotc/
>>86826182>>86823808>Revised cube a year ago>Have a sick WB deck with Ritual into Hypnotic Specter, Demonic Tutor, and Contract from Below>we ante and opponent puts Mana Vault>win, get their Vault>Next game I open the nuts and go swamp ritual mana vault Hypnotic Specter DT for Contract pass, Contract next turn for a new handI was so erectI didnt lose a match but lost a game to Aladdins Ring animated by Titanias Song
>>86824344>>86825593the mechanic is extremely poorly desgined for 1v1 magicit's like monarch but designed in a way that favors the initiative player much more than the opponentwhat I mean by that is drawing an extra card is good for most decks, but shit like>search your library for a basic>put 2 +1/+1 counters on a creature you control>target player loses 5 life>create a 4/1 with menace>reveal the top 10 cards, pick a creature to put on the board with 3 +1/+1 counters, it gains hexproofclearly can be better used by the white stompy aggro player than a control deck trying to look for a wrath or a combo deck looking for their finisher, the best these decks get is the scry 2 and make a treasurethe answer to this mechanic isn't just "play creatures to deal combat damage lol" because the white initiative player will always be ahead on the creature game, and make better use of the dungeon effectsthe answer is to never let them introduce the initiative in the first place which is way harder to do than just dealing combat damage with creatures
>>86826591I will never complain about WotC throwing Stompy a fucking bone once in a while.
>>86826591>1 to 1 copied from pauperGODs analysis
>>86826608the problem is that it isn't stompy, it's WHITE stompy, other stompy colors can't play as many good initiative cards so they're inferior when it comes to the initiative strategy
>>86826637Just play kuldotha red ;)
If WotC hired you to design MtG 2.0, how would you change and update the rules of the game? The only restriction being to preserve the setting and spirit of the game.
>>86826714Companions have the ante rule. Non-standard sets are now edh-legal only and no longer legal in modern and legacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5cPltGQxiM&ab_channel=MagicAidsDeck looks decent honestly. At first I rolled my eyes at yet another janky two card combo, but then the cards supporting it are strong hate pieces like Teferi and another combo in Saheeli+Felidar, plus Omnath.
>>86826726I am incapable of finding interest on any deck that runs T3f, W&6 and Omnathit's so fucking boring
>>86826714replace mulligans with a doubling cube
>>86826714>spirit of the gameWhat exactly IS the "spirit of the game"?>>86826738Yeah it's basically just a generic 4c Omnath pile except with some slots taken up by the new shit. I'm almost surprised he didn't put a Dryad Arbor in there so Saheeli can make Omnath get another trigger for turn.
>>86826726The saheeli package looked pretty bad
>>86826749An epic duel between powerful wizards. High fantasy setting with a postapocalyptic undertone. Mostly medieval but it depends on the plane. The deck representes the accumulated knowledge of each fighter.
>>86826794>An epic duel between powerful wizardsThat's incredibly vague and doesn't help design a game. Do you want a game where variance generally decides the outcome (nuMtG, EDH), or a game where something resembling skill decides the outcome (mid 00's MtG, FaB, Netrunner)?
>>86826749>What exactly IS the "spirit of the game"?Fat knowledge
>>86826806It should be close enough to the current rules of MtG so that player won't feel like they are learning a whole new game. The rest is up to you.
>>86823723I like this art the most.
>>86826749>What exactly IS the "spirit of the game"?capitalizing "black" but only when it refers to criminals instead of mana
This is what MaRo wanted to do for Time Spiral. Thoughts?>It was a little too "out there" for R&D
>>86826864>Nostalgic bolt>Burn gets 4 copies of price and progress
>>86826827Then colours as a game function can fuck off.
>>86826899you hate deathtouch and lifelink?
>>86826954Originally I bet death touch instantly killed players and LifeLink made you open a shared savings account.
>>86826864It's nice to see he was always a hack.
>>86826864I know Time Spiral was a while ago but it was still the 40th magic set.You'd think by then MaRo would have understood basic shit like the reason why tutors with type restrictions always make you reveal the card after finding it.
>>86826879Memedern needs better land hate. Print wasteland and ban wrenn or print watered down versions of price of progress/wasteland.
I'm going to buy wotc stock soon
>>86826714Mana burn is back, combat damage is on the stack, all Planeswalkers are banned and the permanent type is retired, every set since Alara is banned, no "treasure" "clue" or "food" tokens going forward, the creature types "Eldrazi," "Werewolf" and "Human" are permanently retired (human characters still exist but are defined by their 'class')
>>86826637>complaining about one color being inherently better at something than another one>in fucking LEGACY Oh the ironing>>86826864Cute. Seems like a nightmare in competitive settings but I like the idea.
>>86826529the real big brain move when playing ante is to play absolute jank (like big beaters or burn) that you don't care losing or costs almost nothing to replace. then by the off chance you win you could win big if your opponents was playing an actual deck
>>86827095>Oh the ironingthere's quite literally one billion different ways you can build a blue legacy deckthere's exactly one way to build white initiative
>>86827137White initiative is a specific archetype. "Blue" is whatever. A better comparison would be Tempo and playing any Daze deck that isn't UR is just incorrect.
>>86826714I would use more supertype. The flash example is good, but I also think of thing like a "fire" supertype for thing like fireball or fire elemental to allow for more flavorful design.
Anyone know how i can avoid paying taxes on cards? I showed my portfoio to my CPA and he told me it’s not enough to qualify for tax exemption on purchases since I’ve barely sold anything.
>>86826591how is your ur delver? having some issues after what, 10 years?
>>86827254just dont lol
>I showed my portfoio to my CPA
>TQI love this little guy like you wouldn't believe it hurts my soul that there's no place for him in pioneer
>>86827361Crazy that the ‘drazi have been power crept out. Eldrazi stompy is such a fun dumb deck in Legacy. Fucking love me some Endbringer.
>>86825737Based. You have every right to try hard.
Portal to Phyrexia is the thinking man's standard deck archetype Bant Portal is my favourite since you can hardcast it, as well as One with the Multiverse and Titan of Industry You also get to play Teferi with Thirst for Discovery and Faithful Mending, which is a little bit disgusting I tried playing Urza and Stone, but that deserves its own deck and doesn't really fit with the plan
I just submitted a question on Blogatog about replacing mulligans with giving a doubling cube to the draw player
>>86827388Eldrazi with Eye of Ugin perform very well in no ban list modern
>>86827445>axe of despair on gemini elves*sips*now that was real yu gi oh
>>86826714All formats now have a restricted list. Mythic rares are instantly restricted upon printing. Cards that see heavy play despite restriction may be subject to banning.
>>86827361works on my machine3 Eldrazi Displacer3 Knight of Autumn4 Gilded Goose4 Matter Reshaper4 Thought-Knot Seer4 Reality Smasher4 Skyclave Apparition1 Portable Hole2 Mazemind Tome2 Fateful Absence2 March of Otherworldly Light2 Rest in Peace1 The Wandering Emperor1 Sunpetal Grove2 Wastes2 Demolition Field2 Field of Ruin2 Forest3 Plains4 Brushland4 Fabled Passage4 Temple Garden1 Tireless Tracker1 The Wandering Emperor1 Shalai, Voice of Plenty1 Rest in Peace1 Lion Sash2 Voice of Resurgence2 Scavenging Ooze2 March of Otherworldly Light2 Calamity's Wake2 Archon of Emeria
>>86826714Companion is no longer a mechanic in any formatEvey card that isn't broken or completely fucked is unbanned Only broken and unintended interactions cause cards to be banned All Wish effects are banned Pioneer is abolished Cards that are printed in commander sets are only legal in commander Modern staples are reprinted aggressively until they're cheap as shit
>>86827781>2 Demolition Field>2 Field of Ruincan you tell me why are you splitting the difference here? to play around pithing needle effects?
>>86827838well which top tier deck relies on nykthtos and can fetch needle from sideboard?yeah
>>86827912sorry, inside my brain eldrazi and pioneer are so far removed from each other that when I looked at your list my mind blanked for a second, it does make sense
>>86826714Immediately start expanding the Reserved List.Remove all non-draft boxes and secret lairs, reduce the amount of special cards but leave them in the draft boxes.Reduce the yearly sets, go back to blocks but make some blocks only 2 sets.Ban at least 20 cards.Keep future powerlevel in check.Make Standard cheaper but more interesting.
>>86828343He has like double chink eyes
>>86823787>Commander isn't MTGCope
>>86827039>combat damage on the stackyou niggers say this shit all the time and never explain why
>>86828904It old so BA! SNEEEED!!!! OOOO!!!It allows for more interesting plays and empowers certain pinging effects.
Is Tron more fun in Pauper or Modern?
>>86829116Modern Tron has either u (bad) or g Tron (mediocre).Pauper has urzas breakfast (bad), blinktron (bad), ponza Tron (bad), WUBRG Tron (bad) or cascade Tron (bad).
>>86829116I like it more in modern because green tron and eldrazi tron are my favorite versions of the deckbut if someone asked me where is the best place to play control tron, I think pauper would be the answerit really depends on which version of tron we're talking about and what type of archtype you enjoy (combo, ramp, control etc)
>>86829200Tron isn't super well positioned on pauper and some MU are total ass (ponza and burn come to mind).
>>86828801It's the "format" for people who bitch about me winning because it's "not fun" So no, it's not MTGsee >>86825737
Holy fuckaroni aids just made a new video on portal to phyrexia and called saheeli "stinky saheeli" (probably because she's indian, but we cannot know).The video is gonna get shoah'd before you can say "klaus schwab's father was a top ranking nazi and his mother was a rothschild".
>>86829534To break from the shitposting for a moment, is this all pauper discussion has turned into since the banning of most initiative cards?
people actually play pauper?
>>86829625Only people who have posted decks are bubbles and one pauper player.
>>86829670Deck posting for a poverty format like pauper seems like a waste of image limit for the thread
>>86829685>Only good if u post expeknsvue stuff!!1Alright want me to post a boat I play magic in then?Dipshit.
why are 100% of the mono white soldier/warrior creatures women or black males? Is it this diversity thing I keep hearing about, making them all female and or black?
>>86829919I meant playable cards not the trash draft ones
Which Netflix Original show is this from?
>>86823833Same. Everyone at my LGS hates them
>>86829942There are no playable soldier cards
is/was brawl fun?
>>86830186No, you fucking tranny
>>86830186Was. it is better than commander because people focused more on winning rather than creating a board or a "story" with your cards. Also there were less need for tutor cards (even when they were testing the format within lgs during SoI and ixalan).When my LGS got the invite to test the format i played a WR Nahiri control, just got to cheat Emrakul once tho.
>>86830186>>86830214forgot picBTW didn't play it much during dominaria-eldraine but made a deck for Jhoira, also bought the eldraine decks (and played a event using one of them) (also played the MTGArena event)Why it wasn't popular? Because commander trannies claim they are poor and can't afford standard... (yeah...) They even bitched because all the brawl decks had a card (in all of them) that would become a commander staple/really good card.... Yeah, the same fuckers who buy into new cards and commander decks... IMo it would be better with pioneer pool instead of only being standard, but whatever, it is dead.
>>86830104That's Disney+. MTG is in the Netflixverse, you do know they're releasing a Netflix original MTG series this year, right chuddy?
>>86829901You know why
>>86828801>defends the mario party format with "cope"ironic
wtf jumpstart 2022 spoilers are already out
>>86830528Spoiler season never endsWatchBuyRepeat
>>86826529Cube with ante sounds fun. I had a rule like that in my YGO cube since that was something they did in one of the story arcs. Players had 30 card decks and 45 total cards drafted/dealt, so they would have to side in new cards in between rounds to adjust their decks if they lost cards (or just wanted to try something new). It was a lot of fun and added stakes to the matches and changed how players approached games depending on how much or how little they had to lose
>>86830528Spoiler season is always happening because people keep buying it
>>86830279Brawl being "expensive" is such a nonargument considering Commanderfags will toss entire month's wages (or disability cheques) buying one or two cards.
>>86830186Yes/and yes.Coomander trannies hated that it was 1v1 and can't use 3 1 drop artifact accelerants and decks are 60 cards. Unironically the coomander trannies ruined that format, too.The decks were varied, there was support for the format that you could play in standard, and the cards were genuinely unique and interesting but not overpowered.
>>86830279>>86830868I dont remember them complaining about the price at all
I love this card
>>86830944They complained in forums like mtgsalvation and maybe twitter that because of it being only-standard legal cards the decks would cost alot and once they rotated they would lose all the money invested. (remember that those are the ones buying mythic rare creatures on release.)They complained that arcane signet (a card that was in all 4 eldraine brawl decks) would become a commander staple and it was predatory (yeah, and some of them preordered it for like $10+, the decks were like $16-18 and also had a shockland inside). Even Brian "the professor" complained about it (he mostly entered the echo chamber and made a video with the arguments the retards pushed). Also the "why we don't have new brawl decks like the ones in eldraine" is because those faggots complained of the 60 cards decks and licked wotc toes for the commander decks being released with every new set.subhumans.
>>86831131its obvious that the rotating format part was why they never bothered with it and I cant blame them
>>86831100prototype is a cool mechanic
>>86831131It is an absolute shame things went the way they did. Brawl should have replaced Standard. Standard just doesn't work with their new design philosophies.
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/ArmadaWhy haven’t they reprinted these in an anthology collection?
Im curious how often do people bm on mtgo? On arena its like every other game the guy who is about to lose goes and has a hissy fit where they just run out the clock until it loses them the match
>>86825883This post would be 100% right if you didn't imply Commander decks have the potential to be unique. They don't. Every single one is Ramp - Card Draw - Wincon.
>>86831496I always do that to everyone that plays blue
>>86831150I was one of the anti-brawl dudes. The main issue was the rotation, since you'd get attached to the shit and oops it rotated out. I believe I came up with the idea of having it just either be non-rotating, or expand the card pool with aggressive bannings. I was 100% aokay with the format, namely because 60 card singleton requires a different sort of deck building compared to 100 card. With EDH, I feel like deck construction is largely the same, due to having to fill 100 cards. I have the coomander itself, and Sol Ring to start. I might as well include greaves and swiftfoot, the relevant mana rocks, and fetches + duals with utilities and basics rounding out the numbers. That's half the cards there. It's worse if you're running black, you just get all the tutors you can. Blue? Cyclonic Rift and the same counterspell package everyone else runs. The free spells if you control your commander? Blue is the best since it's free counterspell. People will say "oh just adjust for your meta!" but it's like, we'd do kitchen table sure. But we'd print out toppity tier decks with massive tuning. Once you play top of the line EDH, Vintage Highlander, you don't go back. The battlecruiser meta feels awful since MTG combat isn't very deep and due to the stall out nature, whoever plays his wincon last wins. 75% is just ramp, do thing draw card, and oops someone won with an infinite. It's okay the other 3 continue on anyway lol. 75% feels like playing top of the line but with the balls cutoff.All the "pro advice" is from some bugman who makes up complete horseshit and uses SEO to just get clicks anyway.
>>86823180>be 13 yr old standard player at time >go 4-1 or 5-0 at fnm >save Christmas/birthday money and sell standard deck to to afford 300 dollar Edric deck >win a decent amount of the time>constantly get sneered at or passive aggressive comments from neck beards >quit Fuck commander players, when I was winning I would have grown ass men pleading with me and was too young to realize how pathetic it was at the time. Switched to warhammer and I was shocked at the difference in the quality of people
>>86831607>when I was winning I would have grown ass men pleading with me and was too young to realize how pathetic it was at the timekek, got any funny stories you'd like to share?
>>86831422Unnoteworthy, low quality, forgotten tie-ins hoping to coast off of brand recognition are dime-a-dozen, but they were especially so back then.
>>86830868I don't like Brawl because it's a rotating format.
>>86831659I bet you also refuse to work in an office with rotating chairs
>>86831623>neckbeard offered to be my slave if I didn’t kill him>I got accused of cheating tho in a sealed event and banned from a store despite not doing it >Chris Chan type gets removed from store by police because he tried to punch one of my friends after losing >some millionaire guy who owned his own high end fashion company raging whenever I won >being 12 and seeing a girl ask 2 guys to watch their drinks and the second they left “let’s cum in it”>thinking adults just smell like shit and not realizing it was abnormal >going to Iceland and all the mtg players were fit and normal >getting ripped off by grown ass men in trades Mad respect to my dad for spending 4 hours every Saturday at fnm making sure I didn’t get molested
>>86831711>things that didnt happen
>>86831711>neckbeard offered to be my slave if I didn’t kill himAIEEEEEEEEEEE 13 Y/O-SAMA I KNEEL DON'T KILL ME
>>86831773If it's funny or interesting then I want to believe it was real in my mind
>>86831711I can relate to that last point, everytime some kid opened, say, a fetchland, a swarm of scumbags would swarm in offering 10 cent timmmy rares for it
>>86831963Always hate seeing that.Nubs getting jewed too.
>>86831963>>86832069I try and ensure that shit doesn't happen when I'm at the LGS I go to. I tell the kid that all those people are trying to rip you off and of course, I get bitched at by the fucking losers who try and do that shit.
>>86830415>all these niggeresses are from 5 years ago topsWhat went wrong?
>>86832163coomander players wanting "muh diversity" in "their" game
why do i have to pay for lsv’s articles just to get access to tcgplayer’s black friday dealsimagine paying for this shit just to get cucked out of most of the cards in your cart lol
>>86832179Very related note (faggot janny tranny , daily reminder the coomander rules committee discord is full of fat niggers and sjw that got the hateful seven banned IN EVERY FORMAT.
>>86831496>Im curious how often do people bm on mtgo?it happens less than frenquently but more than rarely if that makes any sense, it really depends from person to personfor example I've had one delver player completely lose it because I was playing red stompy in legacy once and he didn't find a counterspell for my blood moonthat must've been two months ago, I think
Anyone have the pics any of the forbidden custom cards with teferi's baby or autumn?
>>86832204Thankfully the 93/94 format allows those cards still (I know it's more of a meme format than anything but it's fun) I rock mono white with a playset of Crusades and a Jihad. Fuck coomander players for ruining mtg
am i really about to spend $240 on a playset of chrome moxes
>>86832290I got 3 left for sale at 50
>>86832336top shelf proxies
>>86832401Hah I wish. They are played.
>>86832451Just like you nigga
>>86826714Planeswalker cards are now deck identity cards that represent types of spellcasters rather than specific characters.Lands are moved to a land deck and are played with your planeswalker cards, for most decks on a minus ability, though some "green" planeswalkers will have their plus ability put a land into play.
>>86831496MTGO lets you multi-queue (or did when I played) and so people are often playing multiple games at once and they'll just make you sit there and wait while they make decisions in another game.This is on top of conventional bad manners. A game that should take 15 minutes will take the full 30 minutes of the opponent's time on the chess clock because they'll make you wait as they finish a match or draft elsewhere.
>>86832163wotc is desperate and wanted to appeal to the go woke crowd. Only issue is, going woke is tanking the ESG fund which is unexpected for some reason.
>uninstall arena 2 years ago>give it a try again>every single game is card for card the same decks from when I last playeddoes this game have leveling bots or some shit why is every match lifegain or mill?
>>86832790>wotc getting desperateNot even close. All companies copy and emulate each other. If a big one does something woke, all other follow suit.'Sustainability' wasn't a keyword until 4 years ago yet was popular in university 10 years ago. And it means nothing all companies do whatever in the name of it.Why? Because if a big successful company does it it must mean it lends to its success. Completely retarded thinking process. But this is the average 90 IQ manager mindset.
>>86832818wotc limited design is just copy pasting cards, and just changing words to go with Set Mechanic. There's nothing new under the sun
>>86832863>do thing>draw card>do thing>get counter>do thing>gain life>do thing>kill creature>do thing>DRAW CARD
>>86832907When they try "new" designs, it's always a god awful mistake. See:>Morph>Megamorph>Manifest>Mutate>Escape>Prototype>Stickers>Meld
why don't they just print the foil cards on plastic so they don't curlor just foil the whole thing so moisture cant get it
I would make a new set storyline where the Jacetice league fuck up big time, and some powerful wizards take matters in their own hands and find a way to remove sparks from existenceand then there are no planeswalkers ever again except for Bolas, because he's in interdimensional prison
>>86832998I dislike foils, they look stupid
i wanna see more of characters i like but at the same time i'm terrified of seeing them ruined
>>86832920Prototype and Meld are cool thoughMeld forces you to have a flavorful deck synergy>>86833008good thing Tamiyo and Ajani are phyrexians, because now they can't campaign for gay rights
>>86832920Regular morph is coolRest are bleh and stickers are on a different level
>>86832998Foils didn't used to curl, probably these reasons:- they used a thermo-stable plastic foil- they layered the paper that composes the card in alternating grain so that the curvature of the paper in response to moisture and temperature acts against the other layers creating stability- they used better quality paper that was resistant to heat and moistureSomething happened to their original printer, Magna Carta I think it was. Moved operations to China, shut down or sold off facilities that did good work, some number of bullshit cost-cutting measures.
>>86833019>good thing Tamiyo and Ajani are phyrexians, because now they can't campaign for gay rightsTrans rights is also gay rights, anon.>>86833008They will all become avengers shit by March of the Machines tm and its aftermatch.If you want your favorite character being respected you need to drop any atempts at reading the new story and also ignore all new shit art-story-spoilers. If you want to have a continuity then play a rpg based on the ip (even at bar fights, degen sex, etc it will be better than oficial story) >>86833002Shit story, if you take a low paying job at wizards you can probably make this come true in a few years.>>86832998What makes foils curl is the diference between layers of the card absorbing moisture and how much it expands them(ink also conts a bit). Making a card in plastic would create another problem with pros who goes with only a few certain cards in the new "foil" soo they can use it as advantage (marked cards)
>>86833167planeswalkers are fucking horrible and removing them forever would be a good thing, homo retard
>MTGO costs real money>Arena only has a small portion of the cardpoolthey really don't want me to play this game
its such a mindfuck that even standard games are over at turn 4
>>86833260They only test with pre-existing archetypes. Only the most minimal effort is made to determine how a new set will impact the environment. And their release value is to just ban the card if they fuck up, which I think is fine if it wasn't for the fact that every time they ban a card it fucks people out of hundreds of dollars.
>>86833197arena is its own special kind of hell. Rigged games + the devs randomly approving cards to be entered into their digital only formats means 3 pet decks get to rape everything else while bots sit there and farm matches with copy pasted lists
>>86833301rigged games is the worst thingnobody plays alchemy so who cares, but rigging opening hands and draws is fucking stupid
>>86833333opening hands and matchups>win too many games with an aggro deck>here is 3 matches in a row against jeskai control all of which open with a 3cmc sweeper
>>86833333>>86833301I think rigging your hand is the most retarded thing imaginable. But the reason why they do it is because players are fucking retarded just like the majority of gamblers are retarded. They don't understand that there's a luck aspect to the game and that sometimes you draw bad and it's OKAY for that to happen sometimes just as much as it's okay for that to happen to your opponent and winning games you shouldn't win because they get screwed.Those players are the majority and they will bitch loudly about getting mana screwed. They are shitty casuals but they unfortunately also buy MTX so that's why they are given a leg up. And they are so stupid that they don't care that competitive serious players will use the system to build greedy low-land decks and use the system against them because they'll never blame the system but the other player.Same goes for Best of Ones. Stupid players hate sideboarding, how many fucking people did you meet playing paper who bitched about sideboarding and it was very quickly clear they lacked the mental capacity to sideboard.
>>86833369>play ramp>get every big mana spell in the first 4 drawsit's like they don't even shuffle
>>86833384statistically, I'm not going to get my 1 of in my opening hand every fucking gameand yet, there it is in my opening hand, every fucking game
I tried to play Duel of the Planeswalkers 2012 because I bought it ages ago, but it's so slow it makes me want to carve my face off. I detest Arena, but at least the gameplay is smooth, and the presentation is nice.
>>86833400I don't have anything to say about that. I feel like it would be absolutely insane to develop a system, once figured out by the competitive players, to guarantee a one-of in your deck to always appear. But I wouldn't put it past Wizards to appeal to retards that way, if someone builds a deck with their one-copy of a Mythic, check their collection that they only own ONE, and guarantee they draw it every single match so they can play with their super "rare" card.
>>86833281>He thinks they still test
>>86833427there's also the situation where your opponent is going to lose unless they topdeck the perfect cardin paper magic, this doesn't happen oftenin arena, it happens frequently
>>86833447They test more today than they did a decade ago. What, do you think they're just contracting those washed up pros to sit around and do nothing?
>>86833369oh shit, its not just meWell, at least you don't open 1 land hands (with only one 1 cmc spell) or hands with the 2 colorless mana source you have on your deck (for the random matchup), right?
>>86833462>What, do you think they're just contracting those washed up pros to sit around and do nothing?Yes.
>>86833452I'm no programmer, but to develop a system that can figure out a sick topdeck based on the board state is so fucking complicated I don't believe it exists. I've ripped well in Limited in Arena frequently, but at the end of the day it's like a 1/10 chance to rip an out from the one or two cards in your deck, it's NOT unrealistic.To me, it's just the product of the fact you aren't playing the people you're drafting with. They topdeck well because if you're good at the game and winning they will pair you with better players. The 6-0s will play the 6-0s and let's face it, those people tend to have good decks so it would appear the game is biased against you but it's because you're playing winners.In full disclosure I'm playing on my friend's account. And no offence to him he is very much an amateur and loses a lot. So when I take control, IF there is a matchmaker system it would pair me with worse players.
>>86833517>IF there is a matchmaker systemthere's obviously a fucking matchmaking system
>>86833301>>86833384I used to be dumb and run 25 lands on Arena, with one memorable game where I drew 35 cards and still never made my 5th land drop before dying.Best of 1 is hilarious. You can run hyper-aggro and if you get the Play you just win. And going second you lose almost every game.The matchmaker will hate you if you win too many in a row. Win 10 games in a row? Prepare to do 20 games going second, in a row.>>86833400>>86833427Never heard of that for arena. YGO duel links used to have this with the release shuffler. It took nearly a year for players to figure it out.>>86833452>>86833517This I actually have seen a lot of. I play a lot and am surprised by how often it happens. Even more, I watch a bunch of streamers play and it seems to happen to them an insane amount. It even seems to happen to me a lot where certain cards if I draw one of my win cons and it gets destroyed I will quickly draw 3 or even all 4 copies if we go to topdecking.It's not dynamically figuring out the best card. If it's even real it actually just has some high impact cards that are coded as higher priority to help ensure more streamable games.
>>86833600I think it's part of the shuffling system where it figures out on average when you need to draw that card to win the game
>>86833600I really don't play on Arena enough to understand all the bullshit they have secretly injected into the game. Like, I know about the opening hand land thing, but if you say there's more shit going on I'll believe you. I just am doubtful of it because I don't have the experience with the program itself. My friend tells me all this paranoid shit that we've discussed here with a winner queue and loser queue that the streamers talk about and I just really don't care to research it. Because I'm so fucking beaten by the Internet and the people making up shit just to get clicks that I don't really want to go through the effort to see who is credible or not, especially in this game where NOBODY is credible anymore.When I sit down and smurf on his account I crush. Seriously I haven't gone any lower than 6-3 in draft. I know I'm good at the game but I don't know how much of that is built on the fact my friend loses all the time.Best of Ones has simply got to be one of the worst if not worst thing to happen to Limited. Why the fuck would I bother drafting sideboard cards when I can just smash Game 1. I went to a paper event for the first time in nearly a decade and most players I sat across from weren't sideboarding and I was like, "Oh my god, the baseline skillset is so fucking bad now".
>>86833517>there is a matchmaker systemanon, mtg arena staff have said at least 2 times that there is a matchmaker system. The last time they said (that i remember) was when standard (or maybe it was historic, i don't remember) was dominated by uro/golos decks and they said they have changed the odds of people without meta cards in their deck of facing decks with those cards.They have also said similar things about match ups of aggro/control/midrange. Also arena is famous for making people flood or screwed in mana. Good that you haven't experienced it in draft for exemple.
I cast Portal to Phyrexia from my hand and my opponent conceded game 1 and immediately conceded game 2 before it even started
>>86833712IIRC the staff have said the rigging is something they can turn on/off for certain queues. But I could be misremembering that.
>>86833712>mtg arena staff have said at least 2 times that there is a matchmaker systemI get it now. I haven't paid attention to this shitshow of a game for a long time; and I stopped long before Arena existed. I know nothing about how Arena is built or all the gripes about it; I just smurf on it for a friend who wants to stop wasting their gold or gems or whatever the fuck.
>>86833762I wish I had a friend who could smurf on my account for drafts I couldnt give less of a fuck about draft on arena
>>86833762I don't even know if there's a list of all the bullshit programmed into Arena that would catch you up. As certainly any YouTuber who makes such a video or document isn't going to get their Christmas Preview Cards. Not that you could trust any YouTuber in this game nowadays.Except Magic Aids. Shilling for him, can't believe someone like that exists in Magic. They cancelled him and he didn't quit because he actually cares about the game.
>>86833517It probably doesn't rig the draws but it is definitely coded where it knows your archetype and will match you against decks with silver bullets against it. If you add Nine Lives you will get matched against decks with Bonecrusher Giant, Farewell, Back to Nature etc. I also find it suspicious how often you will get games where your opponent has a perfect and immediate answer to everything in your opening hand.
>>86833792>get games where your opponent has a perfect and immediate answer to everything in your opening hand.>mfw playing elves and the opponent on UW affinity gets all 4 copies of portable hole within the first 3 turns
>>86833664>"Oh my god, the baseline skillset is so fucking bad now".This has never been and never could possibly be the standard. Remember the bell curve.
>>86833712It's pretty easy to demonstrate. Grab a starter deck for standard and play non-ranked BO1 a bunch. You'll face mostly off-meta and other starter decks.Grab your T1 list and run in the non-ranked BO1 queue. I do all 15 wins every day and I haven't seen a starter deck even once. I don't even really see jank decks.
>>86833600I remember playing a mono-red aggro deck with 10 lands in best of 1 as a joke and it ran just as good as my 20 land version. That shuffler is fucky.
>>86833833some polish guy on yt did a 4 land mono R aggro deck and got a 2 land opener every game with a garunteed 3rd land on the 2nd draw shit was crazy
>>86833833Even the non-conspiracy theorists agree the shuffler will smooth your opening hand. The only things contested are how many other ways and to what extent the draws are manipulated.
>>86833770what did they do? ban him from tournaments?
>>86833824I remember a rumor from a long time ago that it had something to do with the rarities in your deck. So since tier 1 decks tend to be stuffed with rares/mythics, it skews the matchmaking. I did feel like I won a LOT more with my 0 mythics/rares mono-U tempo deck than my other decks, but I wasn't really paying attention to the match ups, so I can't say anything certain.
>>86833880what if I'm playing with shit mythics
>>86833880it has to be. I remember making a shitty pauper version of a decklist because of jew drop rates on wildcards and there is this unique sub meta of decks that avoid the top dogs via matchmaking but dominate these shit tier games
>>86833934I'm convinced that's why mono blue puts up resultsit's not a particularly good deck, and has a horrid matchup against Grixis, which is the best deck, but I suppose it dodges it often enough and gets the free wins
>>86833934Well last time i made a deck just to get daily challenges i made a mono black and the 2 times i played a got matched against the mono blue that plays the serpents that get a discount on cmc soo i guess this holds.
Hello I am retard and interested in opening some backs after being out of the game since battle for zendikar. What box would you recommend. I’m doing it for the sheer fun of it and am well aware buying singles online is better
>>86831422Serra Angel came with unique Serra art.Carthilion the Shadowmage is apparently back.Greensleeves, the son of Carth and Gath the One-Eyed have seen cardboard
>>86834188Modern Horizons 2
>>86834194What about brothers war?
>>86834223Collector Booster boxes might be fun but standard sets are boring.
>>86834188Just a draft booster box of whatever set from the past few years seems interesting to you. You specified for fun rather than for profit, so there's not much that should go into a decision like that beyond "I like the set." You can browse card lists on Scryfall if you want to know for sure what's in each one or at least get a feel for it.
>>86834232Any reason why a draft boosters than normal boosters?
>>86834253Draft are the normal boosters. They added set and collector recently.
>>86834195adding some info>all reprints>retro card in each pack>foil in each pack>no pack is the same>you can pull some money cards like Mana Crypt, Demonic Tutor, W&6 etc.>almost 1700 card poolBUT it's only 24 packs and it is probably quite expensive and hard to find now.It was dirt cheap when it released, I think it was cheaper then Stardard draft box at that time.
>>86834253Draft boosters are normal boosters. They offer a bunch of different boxes nowadays, draft boosters are the traditional 15-card packs you're probably used to. Set boosters and collector boosters are aimed more at collectors and feature stuff like additional foils, a chance at more than one rare per pack, alternate artworks/card frames, etc. Draft boosters are still the best option for those who just want to play the game, though.
>>86834268Looks like it spiked up above 300 for awhile but crashed in October and is as cheap as it's ever been right now.
>>86825737why would they play cEDH and complain about powerful decks? Every cEDH deck has a T0~T3 win combo. Unless they were playing casual, but why would you structure "casual" in a tournament way.Or do you mean this was like dual commander? White-ish aggro is the metagame of that format, why would they complain about that? Your LGS is either full of retards or you made stuff up.But yeah, casual commander is about doing different whacky mtg shit while talking and drinking with your bros, not a competitive format. It's basically a medium for socialization,
>>86834355playing a casual tournament, free for all, LGS is just full of retards
>>86831607>switched to warhammerSorry for your poor taste in unbalanced, overpriced games that attract obsessives. Warhammer is trash
>>86834372>casual tournamentbasically an oxymoron
>>86834407It really is. Basically the coomander players wanted to play for packs. LGS set something up for them and it's a "laid back environment" and they get pissed off when anyone brings anything remotely "not fun" like what the fuck did they expect to happen?
>>86834384nta, but warhammer actually has the cons of standard and the pros of edh. Completely unbalanced with one good metagame list, and basically a rotating format, because every new codex makes that army the strongest with a new metagame list. It's best when you just shoot the shit with friends and whatever random combination of plastic armymen you like the most. Painting them is also a nice passtime. Used to do it with a friend while preparing for exams. I don't miss dealing with the logistics of transporting minis.>>86834440I'm surprised it didn't immediately devolve into cedh. I guess I'm luck that my lgs has more normal people. casual edh is where you play your dumb casual and interesting stuff and bringing competitive stuff is looked down upon, but when you join a tournament it's no bars held, and most people play both.
>no rudy upload todaysomeone check on vro
>>86834642Animutranny missed his dilation. Should be back to bait any day.
>>86826816People care, it is mostly a conversation starter and a small "hee hoo deck ugly".Same with 'blinging out' the deck.
>>86824862>I bought 8yeah sure, anyone who can afford to buy these packs have been given them for free by the almighty nose running hasbro
>>86830279I'd coom all over her
>>86834642He's buying up those cheap collections he baited his retards into selling. Give him some time.
>>86832401>see expensive card>sperg outkek
>>86833122Foils used to curl, they simply had a thicker layer of cardboard so it was less noticeable.
I cannot fathom that there are people in this thread that are still playing Arena after all these years.>b-but how am I supposed to play magic otherwise?You people are like beaten wives, you deserve what you get and more.
>2 mana counterspell that hits everything if you have an artifactwhy doesn't everyone use this
>>86835324>has a other requirement to be cast besides mana
>>86835242I recently opened my old MTG collection while cleaning my office and I got the urge to play, but every LGS near my town is closed and everyone my age with the inclination to play this game flees the town as soon as they can so I installed MTGA yesterday. What's the problem with it asides from the obvious grind? I have only played like 5 matches so far. I mostly wanted to try drafting but I can already tell this is gonna result in days of grinding shitty daily missions to do a draft where I get mana screwed and lose. Still gonna try it out though
>>86835376>What's the problem with itIn no particular order>shitty animations you cannot disable>unoptimized, laggy client>can only play standard after 5 years>decks not randomizedThe only good thing is that it's a free to play but even then building decks is a nightmare.
>>86835464>can only play standard after 5 yearsWhat do you mean? That it takes a long fucking time to build up a collection if I'm not willing to give these fucks money? I assumed this was the case but the booster wildcards made me a bit hopeful having a single ok deck wouldn't take much effort.>decks not randomizedI have no doubts that's the case, I also got the impression my first matches were against bots with names since their behaviours were full on retard but I have no way of proving this
>>86835489Standards is the least appealing format. They didn't bother to code in the older cards to play other formats, not even Pioneer.Literally no reason to play Arena other than learning to play the game.
>>86835408Bring back counterspell in standard.
>>86833452That's because you play way more on Arena than in paper. On average in paper you will play a couple of games once per week during FNM, with Arena you can easily play a dozen games per day every day. Top deck are more frequent on Arena because you play more game, so if something has only 1% chance of happening you will probably need to wait months to see it happens in paper, meanwhile on Arena, depending on how much you play this can happen once per two weeks.
Taking greasefang to a 6-8 round tournament. How fucked am I?
>>86835623Either I win or I lose?
>>86835612play a singleton tasigur and you'll do finethis guy has won me so many games
>>86835673I'm squimish of playing anything that requires graveyard interaction given the deck kinda folds to gy hate if you have no answer. What's he help against?
>>86835684>What's he help against?unlicensed hearse players wait until greasefang's ability goes on the stack in order to use it, so you just eat all of your graveyard with a single tasigur and start beating down with a 4/5he's naturally good in grindy games where you don't find greasefang early
>>86835242It's either this or playing with my brother exclusively. I'm addicted, but not enough to put with the shitty game stores nearby.
Dear wotc, can we please ban greasefang, k4rn and kiki-jiki?Ty.
>>86835812The stores are better.
>>86835532and boltand pathand noble hierarchand inquisition of kozilekthanks
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5133287#paperDo myrel and recruitment officer have a home here?Captcha: NYAJW
>>86835888>myrelshe's more of a taxes card than an aggro card, you can only run so many 4 mana cards in your 22 land aggro deck>recruitment officersure thing, maybe not a full playset but 2~3x copies should be fine
>>86835833Greasefang isn't evwn that good or dominating at the higher level/longer tournaments.
karn is retarded arena design reducing sideboard to a fetchboard
>>86836111shit like t3f, k4rn and narset is what happens when you force yourself to build a set around the most retarded card type ever made
>>86835837Not the ones around me, they're not. I'm hoping the one that was closed since 2020 and is reopening this weekend will be even a little bit.
>>86836142I don't even care about the wishboard shit, if they wouldn't have staples those stupid abilities on those 3 cards, they would have been reasonable (and probably saw no play).
>>86832863>~gets a +1/+1 counter>Flash, Flying>Big strong, total and utter badass black mama cards>Absolutely dogshit tier 2 mana counterspells>No good removal cards>5 mana wrath effectsIt's all so tiresome
sharknado is so fucking stupid, everyone at wotc should be hangedcontrol mirrors are just flipping cards over
>>8683640090% of the time it's just create a token and draw
>>86836220At least BRO has good removal, but you still don't have the tools needed to fight off garbage like Wurmcoil.
>>86836549>imagine world without companionsor worse>world where they are all legal and with old rules
>>86836587the fucking izzet otter fuck would be more relevant for sure
post a card you loved but got invalidated by FIRE design
>>86836618what if there were two types on companions – lesser with lower cmc, no tax and greater with high cmc, tax and more impactful effects.inb4 you can have one companion of each type in your deck
>>86836753>In your deckThen they would suck ass.
>>86832163Where have you been?Google “gamergate” and start from there.
>>86832163They didn't go hard on furbait instead
So what is wrong with the game. Outaide the product retardation
>>86831499Maybe if you are a bitch ass tryhard
>>86837452They're afraid to make Arena the primary platform and bolster it with social aspects like the ancient MTGO has