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Previous Thread: >>86621464

>List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R
>ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes
>/hwg/ Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/tghwg/
>Naval wargaming stuff:
https://pastebin.com/LcD16k7s
>Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern
https://mega.nz/#F!ZAoVjbQB!iGfDqfBDpgr0GC-NHg7KFQ
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/gdvadj7t6l5w6/Aero_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6jrcg496e7vnb/Avalon%20Hill
https://www.mega.nz/#F!SyREURzI!lI3Rychibpx17XW4OEhCIg
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/j962ws6h50bqj/Victory_Games
>H&C Megatrove
rebrandly /HexChit
>New Trove Link
https://mega.nz/folder/19kUXC6T#U31scUNwyuVI8cHvX6GIgQ
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>>86720243
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>AK-47 Republic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6v39gcjode5ln/Insanely_Based_AK-47_Republic_Folder
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f8a58xjysyweaz8/Black+Powder+Rulebook.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Fistful of Lead & Expansions
https://app.mediafire.com/3a570vvs1lxqq
>Flames of War 4th Ed (shhhh)
https://mega.nz/folder/lc1SRajQ#QTDXthNFG-sDoYe08bhV9A
>Fleet Series
https://mega.nz/#F!i1N3xZxL!C6fQ3Z8o2U0gtk5kdXuVcQ
>GMT
https://mega.nz/#F!D1dHQZCJ!V9pYq0CUc4iCrNiOcBOBtg
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!XsVD0KgT!twB1NWiFE3aKXK_O1EZ4pA
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>The Perfect Captain
http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/captain.html
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Unofficial Discord?
https://d!scord.gg/MNMaquUfqu
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I'd gotten oddly used to searching for 'convoy ambush' in the catalog
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>>86720243
Hey Anons anyone willing to take a look and playtest a WG I made? Its meant to be as simple as possible, aka for normies.
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>>86720920
>for normies.
ewww!
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>>86721135
People new to modern military strategies. It explains some redundant shit and so on. Anyone interested? Or should I go to some other thread?
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>>86720920
Sure
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>>86721950
Its not too long only a couple pages, half of witch is just tables.
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>>86722018
Having just read it over I'll gives some feedback.
I wouldn't playtest this yet. It is written as if you have a good idea of what the game looks like in your head, but this image isn't communicated clearly in the document.
My advice would be drop the memes, drop the question-answer stuff, and section things out more clearly. Also use a spell-checker.
Another thing I'd recommend is including examples of play with the relevant rules. And maybe a "what a turn looks like" kind of thing. You also will want to address scale clearly, as even if this is scale agnostic, people like to know.
Basically what I'm saying is clean it up, de-meme it, and give players a good mental image of what the game looks like.
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>>86722084
I suppose some additional thoughts.
Flexibility does not a noob game make. New players will get bogged down with this kind of thing. This is why I say address scale directly, as in "you can use 28mm or 15mm or w/e" instead of "xyz is 100m". New players need restrictions and limits that clearly delineate the parameters of the game. Such as scenarios, win-conditions, playing surface size etc.
Adding flexibility only causes paralysis with new players.
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>>86722084
>>86722121
Thanks for the feed back. I will do that. Now that I see the problem form a different angle I can polish it up. This is mostly just core combat mechanics. But yeah a lot of the book is quite vague so I could nail it down while still keeping it agnostic.

I will expand it with the actual point of the game win cons, scenarios and other stuff. Ill also add examples as I feel those are the best way to understand a game, some pictures would be nice too I guess.

Im just wondering is the core combat sound good. now that I think about it it is quite similar to Adeptus Mechanicus game I played recently even tho this was written a year ago.
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>>86722286
Also Im not sure how same turn play will work. Is it a good idea? Since I think it could work either way and is a bit more interesting but a turn based game is easier to understand, I feel like.
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Someone redpill me on Team Yankee. Their new Soviet starter looks sexy as fuck and I would love to have a reason to get it once it's released.
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>>86724217
The rules are jank, but the models are nice, and usable with all sorts of better rules sets.
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My friend printed off the first miniature that I modelled all by myself on his 3d printer. Its an Italian M13/40 tank, and although the model is far from perfect was a great learning experience for future prints and modelling projects. Mostly just super stoked about being able to make my own minis however.
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>>86724217
it's pretty fun (in 3mm). The one game I've played had a soviet air-mobile company but honestly they weren't that interesting. Just normal infantry and the helicopters had somewhat hard to understand rules and were pretty ineffective
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>>86722286
>>86722341
Glad to be of assistance.
The admech game you reference had excellent mechanics, it was neat how it was more like a puzzle than an RNG-fest.
The core combat looks fine, I don't know about simultaneous turns. That sounds a bit confusing from an action-reaction perspective. I'm not really sure how it would look. If it's like write down your moves, then execute, could be interesting. Again, not sure if that's "noob friendly", but no reason not to expand your idea. Just have to balance novel ideas and intended audience.
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>>86724733
Very cool! Congrats anon.
Is it resin or squeezy-nozzle layers?
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>>86724217
Use the models to play Cold War era shit at platoon scale in 15mm.
Use the rules to play Cold War era shit at company scale in 3mm.
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How do minor nations work in bolt action? Ive got a pile of americans/germans to do and a friend just got the british/canadian box cause he wants to get into it. I know the british have rules but do the canadians have any? Or are like afrika core germans that are just a different look?
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>>86724217
I understand the appeal of Hinds swooping in with elite infantrymen while transport aircraft shower light tanks, but IRL paras their own they crumble against any actual force regardless of equipment and training (e.g. recent Hostomel, Dien Bien Phu, Arhnem) unless reinforced by ground forces (e.g. Normandy, Corregior). If there's one thing I learned from various games both digital and analog, is that airborne should not be your main force in a Cold War setting and it should be attached to either large ATGM/MANPAD heavy infantry formations (so not VDV) on defence or large tank formations (so not VDV) on offence. They're a fast capture/exploit unit not meant to really fight a drawn out battle and your problem will be that 90% of your opponents will be either of these two and both are more than capable of trashing you, especially that TY meta since forever was mid-tier tank spam.
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>>86731912
Reminds me of the lads on /k/ trying to figure out the cause of all the intact BMDs full of VDV corpses. They noted that those things are so weakly armoured that intermediate rounds at close range even have a chance of penetration. Seemed the VDV were using them as if they were tanks. Also driving into the middle of ambushes, and assuming the vehicle was the safest place to be.
Resulted in plebian territorial defence types shredding the highly trained VDV.
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>>86724217

I’m interested in the Continental US forces that got a brief mention. I’d like to see rules for Nat Guard units.
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>>86729534
The list in the British book is for all commonwealth countries, including the British. The player merely selects which ones they want and feel best portray the character of their soldiers. This is unique to the commonwealth lists, other minor nations tend to have assigned special rules.
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Victrix vs Perry plastic Napoleonic French, and why?
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>>86734333
>>86724217
I'm interested in the civilian militias they'll be releasing, they seem like they could be quite useful for quite a few under served modern war games.
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>>86724217
Buy the box and play Seven Days To The Rhine instead
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>>86724217
>modern in 15mm
meh. Go 6mm or lower
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>>86738456
I prefer perry, a bit cheaper and have more realistic proportions. There's not a huge amount in it though

>>86724217
Use the minis for 7DTTR like >>86741884 said. Even then, you can get 6mm minis for pennies from places like heroics and ros to get better scaling for more modern battles.
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Is the newest Victory at Sea rulebook in circulation anywhere?
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>>86738456
Perry are far, far better like on a
Only get Victrix if you can get a really great deal or if you want artillery for cheap
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>>86745939
How about Victrix for other eras? I'm quite tempted by their Romans (https://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/roman-ancients/products/romes-legions-of-the-republice-i-in-chainmail-plus-velites-and-command) but open to ideas if there's better out there.
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>>86745987
Yeah their romans are the best in plastic and imo better than anything in metal
Just make sure you have a concrete idea of what you're going to be doing with them
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>>86746048
I really don't. Looking at Saga, and building them in neat 8-man contubernia teams. But I will admit to being pretty ignorant and inexperienced.
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Hail Caesar Epic Battles - Which Setting could we expect?
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>>86746374
It's Warlord so Roman Invasion of Britain
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>>86746511
would be mega lame and fitting noncreative Warlord Games
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It'll be New Kingdom Egyptian and Hittites. Properly researched too, none of this putting any old stuff from a thousand years in the ANE on the figures.
Ah, who am I kidding? It'll be Romans.
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>>86726560
I like how you do terrain. what do you use?
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just submitted my first game to run at a convention using my nam minis. anyone got any ideas for scenarios/objectives? because I don't want a deathmatch where both sides just kill each other. I wanted a mix of mutual objectives that both sides have to fight over, and attack/defend objectives that a side has to protect from the other. I've got some ideas but thought maybe you dudes might be able to think of something better. its been a bit tough to balance because a few of the basic VC units have a tunnel ability that allows them to pop up anywhere on a map thats at least 18 inches from enemy units so they have a huge edge in being able to teleport to objectives
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>>86749722
Yanks have to do a search and destroy on a VC base, and VCs have to evacuate their VIPs and intel before the Yanks get there.
I'm far from a 'nam expert though.
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Anyone else getting one of these?
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>>86750990
https://militaryminiaturepress.com/product/the-gateway-to-berlin-kustrin-45/
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do perry and victrix have sales during the holidays/black friday?
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>>86746983
the mat is a PVC banner effectivly with a custom-made abstract field pattern and a clear plastic sheet over it. The rivers, hills and roads are drawn with whiteboard pens. The forest is pieces of an old foam mattress and ran in a blender and dyed with acrylic paint afterwards. The buildings are either brigade models 2mm stuff or 3D printed. I borrowed the lake from the terrain room of the local place I play.

I'm actually starting too look at 3D printing more types of terrain, especially hedgerows, rivers, highways, trenches and railroads. I would like to have some base for cities and towns but I don't know how I would do that yet
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>>86734333
They ruled it out as being too samey as the US Army, despite doing the Heimatschutz for BRD. But they then kinda hinted if the did plastic M48 for Checkpoint Charlie(TY Early), it would give them something new to add to the NG.
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>>86751733
>black friday
No
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>>86726705
What is this admech game?
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I am trying to get my gf into mini wargaming, already got her hooked on Undaunted:Normandy and painted one or two marvel miniatures with her. Now I am looking to upgrade undaunted tokens with miniatures, so here is where I need your help anons.

What would be your recommended 15mm ww2 miniature supplier, especially since I am on the continent and not the islands. (Quite lucky I got my baccus orders a long time ago)

Pic somewhat related, but dunno what scale he used.
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>>86752743
what is her interest in ww2? I expect most of the miniatures will be vehicles so there's a question about that as well.
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>>86752783
I don’t think I will get to interested in the western part of the war historically, I just want to pimp out a game we play together in the evening and get her into mini painting while doing it. (The boardgame plays like a skirmish wargame lite, so I almost got her rules wise already)

Will just need some basic german an american infantery (grunts, snipers, scouts/pioneers and a mortar crew) time wise after the landing in normandy, the expansion also calls for some Panzer V and probably shermans. If the miniature range also has Italians and britains in Africa and Germans and soviets around Stalingrad-timewise it would be bonus points.

Also is there a Single producer with minis for the Chinese-Japanese part of the war?
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>>86753058
I meant I won’t get her interested, I am quite interested so it’s kind of an excuse to buy stuff too.
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>>86751733
Victrix had a Black Friday sale right now.
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>>86724217
>Red Dawn
>Ivan nukes the DEW line and drops multiple divisions as far south as Colorado.

The TV movie from the same era, where they land Spetznaz in Alaska to shut down the pipeline made more sense.
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>>86724733
Proud of ya. See you Sunday in TTK.
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>>86753357
Bullshit, everyone knows that locking down rural Colorado was the key to Soviet control of the US
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>>86724733
Not bad. I was the anon that gave you feedback when you asked what level of detail you should go for and it seems a reasonable amount. It's recognizably an M13/40, has sufficent detail to catch some wash. Solid effort. The actual print seems a bit softer than the file, but this could be accounted for by a great many things (bearing in mind I don't know the scale of the print). Anyway it's pretty decent, and as a first model it's quite good. I've paid real money for much worse resin kits.
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What sort of games could you play with Victrix's 12mm WW2 dudes? I like em and need an excuse to buy them lmao. And would they be compatible with 15mm models? That's what all the boomers at my HWG club seem to have
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Which has better miniatures?
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Does anyone have the PDf for Clash of Katanas?
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>>86752743
Undaunted with miniatures is a direct and unnecessary downgrade to the game.

For inexperienced people new flames of war plastic models are easier to build compared to psc or zvezda.

Recommended ww2 ruleset battlegeoup. Specially if you play the campaigns with small scenarios like spring awakening.
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Did another point of Anglo-Normans for Saga
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>>86762836
put some dirt on the lower edges of the armour and clothing. They look too clean right now. Maybe blood splatter on the chests and shoulders even.
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>>86762836
I think they look quite good. Gonna stand out with that shining chainmail, that’s a good thing.
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>>86753058
The stalingrad book can be played with small tables and short scenarios. Plenty of historical flavour. Africa has books too, next year they will release monte casino.
You can find the core rules in the links at the top of this thread.
The books don't get outdated it's a closed game.
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>>86763307
Army builder here:
https://osjones.github.io/BattlegroupBuilder/?fbclid=IwAR1XhQNgRKLVyszwofbsB34GcJPd_GUAfu-xpG1y73AQiB10whkVeZNcA2I
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>>86763307
unless someone male or female is showing direct interest in autistic weapon details and tanks I can't imagine a worse game to use than Battlegroup
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>>86762836
I like the look you've gone for with these guys, they pop.
The bases are nice as well, although you might want to vary the type of tufts you use, it looks a bit odd if everyone is standing next to the same patch of flowers.
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>>86764375
I have to kinda disagree on the bases - vary them between groups, sure, but having each group having a common "theme" to tie them together on the table makes perfect sense to me.
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Goddamn I love 1920s airplanes. But I hate building 1/48 kits of 1920s airplanes. Biplanes are the single most frustrating thing I've ever built, lining up those 8 to 10 struts between the two wings and getting them to glue is the embodiment of pain.
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wish 15mm ancients were more popular
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>>86765084
what do you mean? it's by far the most popular ancients scale for organized gaming.

I don't think it's possible for it to be more popular than it is -- it was far and away the largest event format for historicon followed by 15mm WW2.
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>>86762836
Are you going to pimp out the movement tray also?
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>>86765084
I love 15mm.
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Anybody know any good skirmish systems for the colonial era? I was recommended the men who would be kings, but I would prefer something that required fewer models, especially on the tribal side.
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>>86763993
The game is dead simple, the only thing your require is the data cards of the vehicles to avoid checking the book. A 1 is a miss a 6 is a hit. You only have 4 results to check and they are usually always the same.
The premade scenarios specially the small ones are very fun and thematic. And the counters with random effects keep things interesting. Out of all the wargames including hiper casual ones this one is the one that my GF prefers to play.
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>>86768845
Of course you will need to prepare it so she doesn't have to make a list or check values but if you do that she will only need to choose between 4 actions, move, shoot, supress or reserve to do the same but during the enemy turn.
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>>86766337
Probably, but those leaves ain’t cheap so if I do it’ll be after I’ve finished the whole army lol
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Bump.
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>>86766997
Based scale desu, they look great
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I know most people here will think that I'm retarded, but I'm unironically writing a company level WW2 ruleset based on WH40K 3ed for my friends' wargaming group, to go along with our Warhammer Ancient Punic War games.
How would you add suppression in a way that's simple? I'm thinking of just making a "pinning" leadership test. If a unit suffers less that 25% casualties you must pass a pinning test, if you fail the unit cannot move, shoot or assault until the end of the next turn. If the unit suffers 25% or more casualties, then you must pass a regular morale test.
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>>86774816
Bolt Action?
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A new airplane wip.
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>>86776757
very nice
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>>86775898
I know that Bolt Action exists, I also know that techically "World War 2 Warhammer Historical" also exists, it's Kampfgruppe Normandy/Battlegroup Kursk. I don't really care, I've own both but now I'd rather write my own version just for the hell of it.
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>>86776807
bolt action but change some things?
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>>86777067
More like pic related but in WW2, through your meaning gets the gist of it.
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any updated link with battlegroup books?
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>>86776757
I saw your post over in /smg/ and decided to reply here instead of there. Anyway, there's not really an easy way to glue biplanes because it very much depends on the kit in question. As for parts popping off, assuming the kits are styrene plastic and you're using cement for styrene plastic then it should bond (plastic to plastic) very strongly. It will melt both parts and essentially weld them together. If they're styrene and you are not using plastic model cement, then that's your first step. If you are and it's the very liquid kind, then there is an alternative and it's pic related. This stuff is pretty goopy and has a habit of turning stringy so for high quality nice finish model kits it's not ideal. But it has the advantage of giving you a bit longer to work with to position parts, and will also make things stick together like nothing else. Given that they're wargaming pieces, this might be an acceptable compromise that sacrifices a little bit of finish for an easier build and a more robust end result. It's a cheap glue, pretty easy to find at an hobby store or most craft stores.
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>>86781762
In the event that your desired subject is not easily found in injection molded styrene and you have to work with resin or mixed-media, then my recommendation would be to use Krazy Glue Gel. This stuff has a high bond rating and will fill in around gaps. It has a bit more shear strength than the regular superglue and much better tensile strength. It's what I use for big-ass lead dragons. I have never had a join fail using it, the metal itself will deform under its own weight long before it breaks the bond. The downside is that if the glue is not fresh it can get a bit weird when it dries, turning into sort of a coral lump. Once you crack it open, at most it's good for a week. Fiddly bits like antennae and such may still be prone to breakage in use, if a touch more rugged, but structures with multiple attachment points like strutted wings should be very solid.
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>>86781762
Oh, and I should also add that some of the liquid cements don't work well with certain plastics, like the ABS Rubicon models uses, but that goopy tube stuff will. So if for whatever reason you should wind up with an ABS airplane then it might be the stuff to use.
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>>86781824
thanks m8, nta but quality advice
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Does anyone have the SAGA Age of Alexander??
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>>86774816
>Unit takes fire
>Becomes Suppressed

That would be the simplest, and allows for some nice fire and movement - if you can be sure to pin an enemy unit, you can then move other units while they're pinned.

Lots of options and ways to do this:
-Could allow "Suppressing Fire" option that auto suppresses a target, but doesn't inflict damage.
-Could give targets attacked a chance of suppression like you said
-Could randomize what happens when a unit is attacked, giving a combination of suppression / casualties and morale checks - this is what I did in Boocoo Fire Mission, when attacking you roll a number of dice, and the results are taken from the appropriate table depending on the power of the weapon.
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>>86774816
Also this page is a fantastic resource: military analysis of various conflicts (including WW2), with all the data collated into one place.

http://www.testofbattle.com/upload/bob/Essays.htm

Especially the "Rules of Infantry Combat" is very eye-opening.
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Would anyone have the print&play materials (or just the scenarios) for Old School Tactical?

Curious about your opinion of the system too, especially the tank rules.
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Hello /hwg/, does anyone know what realistic Alt-history miniature companies are out there? Not necessarily with rules. Most everything I've found is either, Mech-suit stuff (cool but not what I'm looking for), WW2-and-onwards, purely revolving around vehicles (tanks etc.) or some combination of the three.

Are there any more grounded alt-history miniature projects, preferably set a little earlier?
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>>86783816
Which specific period are you looking for? like WW1 or earlier?
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>>86783816
When trying to do alt history like that your best bet is kitbashing together models using pieces from different regions/nations or units within the aforementioned. This creates the feeling of something being different but still grounded. Pic related is someone who did that for Game of Thrones, but they also varied the period for a fantasy look.
Also, don't underestimate how far you can go with a different paint scheme and maybe a little greenstuff.

I personally use Imperial Japanese and WW2 Germans for my 1960s 15mm african imagi-nation rebels.
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>zinc chloride smoke
contains hydrochloric acid and fucks with the respiratory system
>CSA smoke
contains hydrochloric acid and sulfuric acid
>FM smoke
contains hydrochloric acid and is corrosive
>WP smoke
very hot and causes burns on contact

should more games give a negative effect for units in smoke beyond just limiting vision?
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some boomer I met told me he was playtesting rules for this 28mm firefight game called "The Next War" or something that covered WW2 to Future conflicts. Does anyone here know anything about that?
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>>86782678
>Retreat
I would do it something like
Retreat*
* - only if unit is classed as green (or any low quality troop)
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>>86782842
Very interesting, anon.
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At my FLGS someone wants to play Saga using Age of Magic and warhammer battle miniatures. I'm a player of historical Saga and have an army of XIIIth century French using Age of Vikings and Age of Crusades.
>Is there a future between us?
Is it possible to pitch my Capetians against his fantasy army? Or do I have to proxy the fantasy Empire?
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>>86786766
I'm not sure you can use different "sets" of battleboards together, but I can't see any difficulties in "proxying" for either of you.

If you wanted to use an AoM board, there's nothing forcing you to deploy monsters or warmachines, and if you pick the right one, you might get access to the same quality/equipment "combos" your're already using. The only issue could be if he wants to use a wizard, but you can either find a suitable historical miniature, or just agree to not use wizards.

On the other hand, unless your opponent's faction is heavily centered on bigger-than-human monsters, hearthguards/warriors/levies are the same across SAGA's different books. What do you care if that hearthguard unit with heavy weapons is represented by dismounted knights, armored goatmen or elven swordmasters?
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>>86781762
>>86781824
>>86781890
Thanks anon, I am airplane anon and I appreciate the advice. It's silly, really, because I've got years of experience working with some really crap models, like oop forgeworld resin, and these cheap eBay find 1/48 biplanes are by far the most difficult kits I've delt with. I'll have to change out the glue I'm using for assembling them when I stop at hobby lobby next week.
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>>86786874
I mean I'm fine with using AoM battle boards for my Capetians, I would simply not pick any fantasy creature since I don't own any. My monk could be a magician even. But I was wondering if I could simply bring Caroligian battle board from AoV and match up against whatever fantasy things he wants. This match up would be isekai tier but at least I keep my guys while he keeps his.
I don't think I would ask him to use his fantasy minis with a historical board. At least not on the first date.
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>>86787136
>But I was wondering if I could simply bring Caroligian battle board from AoV and match up against whatever fantasy things he wants
I don't have any experience with the historical variants, don't each have a unique gimmick? Are they interoperable without jank?
If so, it could work if he doesn't bring any wizards, otherwise you'd need to talk some stuff out before the game (not exactly first date material, though).
I also just realized this is not /awg/.
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>>86787730
>Spoiler
Lol, I could have asked in /awg/ but I'm a /hwg/ at heart.
The historical boards only have basic and advanced saga abilities. I don't know how magic is handled, if there's an other layer of rules? All the historic Ages works 100% against each other for sure.
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>>86788003
>I don't know how magic is handled, if there's an other layer of rules?
There is. You build a pool of magic dice (one plus one per caster) at the start of the turn, and your wizards can consume one or more dice to cast a spell. These dice follow the same distribution pattern of the regular SAGA ones (1-3, 4-5, 6), and the results influence the effects' strenght.
On top of that, on every board the Combat Bonus basic action is relpaced by the Magic Bonus action (can use any dice face, either adds 2 magic dice or reroll up to 2 SAGA dice) replaces the Combat Bonus on every board.
Also, every faction in AoM has access to a particular piece of terrain that confers different bonii to nearby units.

That said, in the (few) games I've played, we didn't use neither wizards nor special terrain, and we had a perfectly great time with the game.

>All the historic Ages works 100% against each other for sure.
I guess if you skip casters and special terrain, and swap back Magic Bonus to Combat Bonus on the AoM board, you shouldn't have any particular issues.
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>>86786978
No problem at all. If you can find it, you might have to hunt it down at a hardware store, Krazy Glue Advanced gel would probably be the preference. The normal gel will do the trick, the advanced formula is just a bit easier to work with. Gel is the important part. There are also many different cyanoacrylate gels and gap-fillers that would also work, Krazy Glue just has the advantage of working very well and being easy to source. Stay away from really cheap kinds like dollar store brands, it's a good bet they're just useless at bonding anything except fingers.
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Can anyone recommend a good, but low cost, company making 15mm ancients?
I'm the sponsor of a new tabletop gaming club at my high school, and a few students have expressed an interest in historical games. I want to run Kings of War: Historical since it's simple and easy to learn; perfect for first timers. However, the scales I am used to are prohibitively expensive if I am going to get enough minis for 2 armies. Teachers don't make all that much.
15mm minis seem like a good way of getting around that.
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Gentlemen, I have two Pendraken ECW armies and I need rules to use them with.
What's a good set of rules for 10mm ECW/Pike and Shot?
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>>86790945
old glory 15s during a sale week, and order everything at once 400 dollars plus. It'll get you a ton of stuff plus bases

No other way to be.
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>>86790945
Might want to check into 3D printing, either doing it yourself or paying someone else to do it. Hell, I hear schools these days often own a printer.
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>>86791199
>>86791322
Thank you. I have some 25mm Persians from Old Glory that are quite nice, and I didn't know they had minis at that scale.
I'll have to check out 3d printing. The tech for that has come a long way in the past few years.
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>>86791363
old glory 15s and old glory are not the same company.

You will pay more to get much less durable models at that scale , 3d printing
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Had a quick question for anybody who plays Civil War historicals. Would there be any interest in an 1841 model field artillery piece? I remixed it from a larger Thingiverse model, adapted a lot of stuff for smaller scale and reduced to 4 parts and wondered if it was worth posting.

My buddy is a huge fan of Destroyermen and Artillerymen so I got it together for our 25mm Weird Wars 3.5 campaign.
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>>86792046
shit yeah, definitely
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thank god for The Terrain Tutor. now to just do 50+ more of these. I should seriously buy that guys book as a way to thank him for his Big Burma Build videos
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>>86724733
Bro that looks amazing. I can't believe that since I first picked up Flames of War we've had home based technology that lets us model and print this shit ourselves.
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>>86792548
>Terrain Tutor
Cool dude, love his work, what's wrong with him? He's got a helluva tick.
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>>86720243
Where would one get 28mm moderns?
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>>86794034
Depends what exactly you're after. I quite like Empress minis, but do you have a particular nation/style/theme you're looking for?
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>>86794034
Empress is good, and Spectre Miniatures have some decent stuff.
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>>86794034
Think there are a few good STLs going around now adays.
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>>86793989
Not sure, but wouldn't be surprised if it was some form of Non-Verbal Tourette's. Alternatively, could be a nerve injury in early childhood or just an anxiety disorder of some sort. Slimmer chance that it is a degenerative condition of some description. I still love his content and hope he has some happiness.
t. non verbal tourettes anon who fucking hates a twitch thot who likes whistling being the representative of our plight
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>>86795617
I know from some of his vids that he's been through a huge amount of stress and anxiety just lately. If some of that is coming across in his work, I'm not surprised. But Mel is a good guy, does good work, and honestly terrain is a way under-appreciated part of the hobby. Everyone wants to have cool models, but having a great table to play on is also a vital part of the end result.
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Does anyone have a good source on what 1200s English cities looked like? I’m trying to make a city board for Baron’s War.

Also Mel’s book is fantastic, I’d recommend it to anyone trying out terrain making- hell I got a date night out of it (thanks Mel, if you ever read this)
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>>86796456
Mostly the traditional timber framed and limewashed buildings with thatched roofs, churches would be stone, most houses would have a long strip for a garden. If a house had stone it'd usually be the lower floor, unless it was a wealthy man's manor. Each city would have a grain market/square, and different streets for different guilds, there'd be mills, both within the walls and without, usually powered by water, and often several guildhouses. In England guildhouses were sometimes part of a church which a guild sponsored. There'd be various religious houses within cities too, which would usually have a fairly large area enclosed unto themselves. Most households would keep a pig or two, there'd be large orchards or fields outside of the walls, the houses of the wealthy noblemen were more like compounds with a gatehouse and courtyard, much like the religious houses. There'd be a main town/city square, where announcements were made, and notices nailed up, and of course a town hall/ guildhall where most administration and important meetings would take place. The streets were typically unpaved at this time, but they may have timbers placed down if the roads got too muddy.
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>>86799750
nta but cheers, very useful
any good resources, physical or digital? recently picked up a cheap book on timber framed buildings that is exceptionally helpful but it doesn't cover broader village life and appearance
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Does Perry miniatures have a free shippibg threshold? Couldn't find any info on that
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>>86800341
>Orders over £200 are automatically post free.
>Orders to the US over £250 are automatically post free
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Is there a (good) game which is made to play entirely through text? No board, no minis, no tokens, no cards. I'm pretty much looking for an analogy spreadsheet simulator.
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>>86800986
Look up the discord games boomers tried to run about subs etc during the pandemic.

Or military telephone wargames.
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>>86726560
That basically sums up air mobile infantry IRL too
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>>86734260
BMPs / BMDs being penetrated by GPMG fire from every angle but directly on the front armor slope has been known for decades, even before Chechnya and the Russians had first hand experience to see it after. It is mindblowing that they are using the exact same vehicle models, maybe even the very same ones individually that were in Chechnya, and they are learning this lesson once again
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>>86799750
Thanks anon, thats a great description! I've got a couple ideas cooking with that

I will have to see if I can find some pictures or drawings somewhere
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>>86796456
Try fo find pictures of the Medieval Birmingham model, it's very good: https://sarahhayes.org/2012/08/10/exploring-medieval-birmingham/
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What tank is this? Looks like a panther with AA guns or MG42's?
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>>86802578
Experimental precursor to the "Coelian" AA Panther, the Flakpanzer Panther 20mm Flakvierling MG 151/20. Neither entered service.
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>>86802630
Ah ok thanks now I know what to search for more info
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>>86802578
Looks like some WoT shit. Looks similar to the 15mm guns on the sdkfz251/21.
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>>86796456
If you look at a city like Chichester you can still see the original plan (as created by the Romans) of rectangular walls, central market cross & streets running N/S/E/W from it. Then sprawl develops outside the walls.
Many cities developed up rivers, at the widest point the river could be crossed, and include docks for ships coming up-river with goods.
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>>86799943
Honestly nothing specific, i mostly just get vague knowledge from the hundreds of archaeological journals, excavation reports, architecture and history books i've read over time.

>>86803250
Well thats a more applicable situation in France or Italy but yes. Most Roman cities were either entirely or mostly abandoned before anglo-saxon settlement, they were more urban hamlets than cities, and most buildings were destroyed or ruined. So most english medieval cities, when applicable, are more built over or near the ruins of a roman city rather than occupying it, with the core tending to be originally english and the layout not following the roman plan at the core or even generally usually, on account of long abandonment and ruin, the grid system would not be evident at all, but the main roman concourse and a few straight main roads were typically preserved, although said roads would no longer be perfectly straight, and said roads usually remained as a result of ecclessiastical occupation and their tendency to like such a layout and borders to their sections of the city, plus churchmen often had first say, as they were typically the first ones to actually fully reoccupy the old ruins, as the church liked the sense of continuation (not that the ruins were neccessarily entirely abandoned, but they werent exactly towns, cities, or even villages in most cases). Off of the top of my head, Chichester, Canterbury, Colchester, Cirencester, Exeter, Portsmouth, Bath, Rochester, York, Dorchester, Norwich, Westminster, Gloucester, Lincoln and Leicester were originally Roman. The anglo-saxons, at least initially, did not like to settle directly on the old cities, as they believed elves or giants built them Eventually as these early villages expanded into cities the ruins were usually fully reabsorbed by their namesakes, although some like colchester and lincoln were the exception and saw continued occupation on more of a village or small town scale.
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Pic related for my point about the main concourse being preserved, two or three straight roads which still follow the old grid, and a defined ecclesiastical quarter which uses old roads as a boundary. But the old grid system not at all being evidenced.
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>>86804043
Roman colchester by comparison. Medieval cities have variable but angular 'islands' of houses and greenery, Roman cities have strict squares along a set straight grid.
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>>86741884
>>86742712
Where can someone acquire a pdf of the rules?
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>>86801160
What's the actual doctrine when it comes to BMDs?
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>>86752699
Warhammer 40k Adeptus Mechanicus
The main thing is that instead the the chance to hit being random like in most war games here the damage is random and hidden, you will always hit but you wont know how deadly your shot was. Its a computer game btw
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>>86804043
Point taken. The main streets are preserved, but only because they link up the gates. Also in the case of Colchester there is a significant slope with the main E-W street along the crest.
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>>86796456
>Also Mel’s book is fantastic, I’d recommend it to anyone trying out terrain making
Exact title or link, please?
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>>86806169
Mel the terrain Tutors big bad book of building bitching battlefield terrain basics for bone headed fat guys, first edition.
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>>86794034
Patrick Miniatures on Etsy for Cheap 3d prints
Empress n Spectre for quality metal
Eventually Wargames Atlantic for hard plastic, but thats a year off easy
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>>86806169
This book
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>>86807194
Thanks.
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>>86792548
Man, I would trim that fern in half. Ferns are not that big half the time. It gets too cartoony.
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>>86800986
Join the IKS, that's basically Kriegsspiel. They have a Discord server where they run games fairly constantly.
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>>86806169
https://mega.nz/file/QMxiACJL#9K9EPoCzPEtvNCVONpZl6g9rHZtdPPa22eOBOBf95lA
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>>86808523
Even better, thanks a bunch!
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>>86762836
I hate that the metal models for saga are so jank with long skinny pewter spears and the need to constantly drill closed fist pewter hands open.

What dipshit thought making metal minis like that was a good idea?
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>>86809141
You don't use pewter spears, dingus, you use brass rods with pre-flattened spear heads.
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>>86809454
Also, protip: a spear used one-handed should not be longer than the height of the wielder's arm raised straight up. Most people make them too long.
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One guy in our group brought up not liking 10mm, while I'm not in love with 6mm. We do fantasy and Napoleonics in these scales right now. 15mm was brought up as an option, and while I'm open to it, I would like to source my miniatures printed instead of the traditional pewter. I think quality is just not there with most of what is on offer, and boomers have low standards. Baccus was a disappointment in 6mm. Excellent Miniatures has mind-blowing quality in 10mm. I just cannot go back to pewter after seeing what cam be printed by a professional shop. I get a lot of enjoyment out of painting, and as such, would like some nice figurines. Picrel.

The question becomes, do you people have experience with 15mm fantasy and historical ranges? What we are mostly into would be

- 13th century baltic crusades
- ww1 and ww2, both tank battles and combined-arms
- generic fantasy stuff
- napoleonics
- colonial wars

Any and all recommendations are appreciated.
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>>86810987
eureka (17mm) ab 18mm and tundraworks 18mm are basically where you will see quality sculpts in metal stuff
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>>86810987
AB figures are the best, they have no competition at all
They're very expensive though
Have you looked at GHQ for 6mm?
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>>86805723
Their main purpose was transporting infantry across nuclear wastelands and providing some fire support from a safe distance. The main purpose of their outer shell is NBC and weather protection, it was not ever designed to withstand anything more than stray rifle rounds. The infantry being transported was expected to dismount, find a foothold independent of the vehicle and provide it with covering fire while it retreats. Theory was that any guns large enough to be a real threat to the vehicle would require an emplacement, spotted from a safe distance and engaged with the cannon. This was a decent concept for a potential World War 3 scenario with sweeping offensives across open terrain but not at all suited to the situations the BMP/D was actually deployed into.

Chechnya is where it really became apparent that the entire concept of them was flawed. Point blank ambushes with hand grenades and GPMGs could mission kill the vehicle. Improvised mines could kill the entire crew since the floor panels were particularly flimsy. The guns had poor traverse and were unable to engage enemies above a second or third story building. Catastrophic ammo explosions were recorded.

I think the belief that they are capable of serving as armored vehicles started when they mounted autocannons to them instead of just a GPMG. People see a metal box, they see the big gun and that makes them think "tank" or at least "this can probably provide a solid fighting position against enemies without anti-tank weapons" even if they have been explicitly told otherwise. Combined with low morale, poor training and easily panicked conscripts it is easy to see how you could get an entire squad refusing to exit the vehicle and engage even if that is the safest thing they could actually do. Most of those guys probably have the above mentioned assumption of 'big gun, metal box = tank' and anyone with experience enough to say otherwise is dead or sent back to Russia.
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>>86811341
Nta and but excuse my ignorance, what is "mission kill"ing a vehicle?
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>>86812122
Damaging it to the point where it can't do it's job, without necessarily destroying it
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>>86812176
Ah okay makes perfect sense. Thanks anon.
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>>86809454
Also, I realized now that these are steel rods. I'm so used to "brass rod" when it comes to modeling.
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>>86811341
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Does anyone have a copy of Saga - Age of Hannibal? I had a look in the links above, but either I'm blind or incompetent (likely) or it's not yet there (also possible).
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>>86793989
>>86795636
had a collapsed lung recently and was dealing with an anxiety disorder on top of that. He talked about it a little in some of his more recent videos when he came back from a long hiatus (due to the collapsed lung)
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>>86815691
Oooh dang okay. What a crazy dude, I'm going to have to buy his book.
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Do I have any better options than Warlord Games PLA Chinks for civil war era Communist Chinese in 28mm?
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>>86816129
In all honesty, I don't know if this is of any use to you since I don't know anything about the chines army's history around that time. The chinese civil war started in 1927 though and the "back of beyond" range from copplestone is dated for "war in central asia 1918-1926" so maybe some of the uniforms from his chinese are still the same or at least close.
https://www.copplestonecastings.co.uk/list.php?cat=2&sub=59&page=1

I did a bit of googling, but didn't want to do a deep dive into the era just to figure out if this recommendation is useful or not.
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>>86784281
Captain Blood from Lead Adventure. His war of the roses project looks fantastic as well.
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>>86817017
Hey anon, thanks kindly as I appreciate the effort but I'm well entrenched in back of beyond China, and love copplestone castings. My favorite mini company. I'm looking for more post second sino jap war chinamens. 45-49. I appreciate the effort though!
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>>86817234
Oh well, I tried. The only other lead I have for you is that Eureka apparently planned to release a range of chinese but they seem to be behind the schedule. The not in their online store says the expected to release them this summer.
https://www.eurekaminuk.com/blogs/news/100-club-ww2-chinese
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>>86817376
Lol yup I have some of them too from their Kickstarter campaign. I'm thinking of just dividing up my collection of those eurika lads to form gommies and nationalists for some small skirmishes.
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>>86817414
>Lol yup I have some of them too from their Kickstarter campaign
lol Okay, then I'm sorry I wasn't more helpful. Good luck.
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>>86810987
Khurasan miniatures has some excellent 15mm stuff.
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>>86816129
Not really much choice, although curtey/1stcorp have a squad of them although they have 2 SKS wielders unfortunately in said squad.
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>>86811127
Thank you but I asked for 15mm to keep things in the same size.
>>86811177
They are Aussies and I'm in the EU, so that's a no go sadly. They have nice stuff though.
>>86819128
Thanks, I keep forgeting about Khurasan. Their stuff is not as nice as Legio Heroica, sadly.
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>>86810987

You want historical 3D prints? There really isn't much of that sort of quality for historical 3D print. 3D Breed has a WWII range but they're really cartoony. Also some ancients stuff, also hugely cartoony. Most of the decent historical .stl are for 28mm.

Cromarty Forge has some nice 15mm and 10mm ancients, I hope he does more. Also some fantasy 10mm, a bit like Forest Dragon stuff which is really nice.
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>>86820331
Well they have a distributor in the UK and USA but that probably doesn't help you
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>>86810987
For napoleonics and colonials, I will be frank, you're going to most be shit out of luck in the 3d printed market. Lots of good looking 6mm black powder stuff exists for the 3d printed market, and even some 10mm, but after that it gets hard to find much of anything.

WW2 is a mostly take your pick kind of thing. Tons of sculptors are out in that space, March to Hell making good detail and functional 15mm troops for that. Tanks you can get free sculpts for if you look around and are willing to play with scaling some of them, and there are lots of people who have made panzer IVs and Shermans.

In generic medieval/fantasy, I can recommend Erramir Orlans on myminifactory. He's got some army packages of both fantasy/historical in 10, 15 and 25 mm scale that work pretty well. For free sculpts of fantasy stuff, look up Dutchmogul as he has a HUGE amount of sculpts available though do keep in mind you get what you pay for.

Hope this helps fren
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>>86820373
I'll be visiting for Salute in April, maybe I'll run into their stuff is someone will be there selling.
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>>86820784
>Erramir Orlans
Thank you anon, this made my day. I think I will need to get a resin printer.
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>>86820331
15/18mm is the same scale.
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>>86821665
Yeah
18mm is just honest 15mm in most cases
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>>86784281
based perry agincourt range converter
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>>86821750
speaking of perry, has anyone ever played this?
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>>86816129
Eureka. But you have to email for them.
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>>86811341
>>86814749
Interesting. So they were supposed to be meat haulers but that purpose never came to pass, so they're just misusing them.
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I just printed some test Italian tanks in 15mm scale. I know they’re considered tankettes, but does this look right or should I modify them a little bit?
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>>86824457
Those are not tankettes. Stuff like the L3/33 are tankettes. The Semovente is an assault gun, and the M13/41 is a full-fledged tank (just a pretty shitty one).
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>>86822167
Who is the target audience for this?
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>>86826075
>literal autist doesn't recognise the question and goes on a splurge
You are a textbook stereotype.
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>>86826262
Well the Perrys made the thing for themselves years ago, and just converted it into a plastic box board game. So for other old boomers who want an extremely simple board wargame with miniatures. Its greatest achievement is the four boards that slot into each other any which way, so you can get a decent bit of variation with static terrain boards.
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>>86826271
How fucking fragile are you that you can't stand being corrected? This is /hwg/, things are called by their proper names. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone gets corrected. No exceptions. Pull up your panties and get over it.
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>>86826262
I'm not sure it has one, which is probably why there hasn't been another one in 5 years. But that said, I wish I had one to bring to thanksgiving today so I could play it offside with my father-in-law and we could skip the family bullshit. It's probably not very deep so it wouldn't make a good proper main wargame - but being somewhere between wargame and boardgame and only about an hour to play there might be times it'd be handy.
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>>86826848
Looks half-decent painted up, too. I'm ambivalent about the grids and 50 pounds (plus shipping) is a touch high, but overall it's reasonably tempting.
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>>86824457
Looks aright, maybe a touch small. Looks like a dude's shoulders should be up to the hull roof.
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>>86826961
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>>86826961
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Does anyone have the new Electronic edition of the ASL rulebook?
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Never Mind The Billhooks Deluxe Edition pdf anyone?
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>>86805998
Thanks mang. I think I have that on the switch actually, might have to dig the ol' girl out of its closet and check it out
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Getting into Bolt action so i can play japs because Battlefront is a dogshit company who will delay the pacific theater again to sell more krauts but heres my list im gonna use. Its about 1k points

First LT with 1 extra guy
2 ten man regular squads with lmg
Ten man gren squad with double light mortar
Ten man vet squad with lmg
Mmg
Medium mortar with spotter
Flame thrower
2 suicide anti tank teams
And a chi ha kai

Ive found that theres no real reason to have more than one of anything outside of infantry (at least outside looking in as ive never played) is that more or less true?
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>>86828530
>bf is dogshit

if they are dogshit warlord is dystentry tier cancer diarhhea
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>>86828578
Warlord at least does obscure shit and equipment. BF sucks because they suck off krauts in ww2 like they havent had a drop of water in years and just slag off soviets to the cannon fodder realm for western theater. And the zero news/support for pacific theater has me bitter as id love to fucking play my beautifully painted japs as japs bemut battlefront cant be asked. And i hate command cards
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>>86829163
yeah see this is a very pleb take though.

BF unironically did more niche stuff for everything including pacific for years. Their release schedule in terms of rules and models *MOGGED* warlord, a fundementally lazy company.

So it's slowed down a bit but *how many releases for pacific has warlord had*

How much content is there out there net from BF vs warlord? and what is the quality of it.

Just pull out the "old" (in reality warlord's is also old and/or recycled) battflefront books and materiels and play that.
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>>86828530
Might want a car to transport your flamethrower team.
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>>86826580
I wasn't even the tankposter, I just responded because you needed course correction. Good luck in your social endeavors, faggot.
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>>86826961
Man, I thought that was Budapest. The buildings look so familiar. But what would an Italian tank do there, we never had the pasta-fuckers over for a party. Post-Mussolini Poland, right?
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>>86829199
I havent experienced warlord enough to comment im just dissatisfied at battlefront and flames in general, if you play brits, americans, germans youll have a fine time, soviets are just fucking neutered and the will to not wanna work on anything outside of team yankee and western front is annoying. And playtesting flames of war as phil yates ignores 99 percent of change suggestions. I also hate command cards fundamentally as theyre day one dlc thats fucking required most of the time and not even included in the army book. God forbid you suggest command cards should be in the book to BF fanboys. Im sure warlord has its issues but warlords pacific offerings are a tad more robust than BF's. If bf gave out generic lists and points as a place holder i wouldnt be as upset as id get to play it in proper v4. I enjoy flames im just bored and dissatisfied that the army i place is neutered and the army i wanna play isnt available and keeps getting delayed.
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>>86829228
What would i cut to get a car. The list comes out to like 8 points below 1k flat.
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>>86829429
I've played a bunch of BA japs and chinks and the Pacific front.

BA japs are poorly balanced against every other army and work best in narrative games against USMC. They can be grossly cheesy and also woefully underpowered depending on how you build your list and who you're fighting. Your gimic is melee which is very powerful, the hill you must climb is getting into melee.

>Banzai chagrin late war Germans with stg44s and MG42s
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>>86829515
Im more or less use to that from flames of war. I dont plan on being super comp with bolt action. The gimmicky activation method kinda turns me off from comp-play. Thanks for the info though, other then gimmicky spear fuckers, what would you recommend for fun lists to play? Are any of the arty or at guns worth it?
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>>86829437
NTA, but the transport probably isn't worth it. The FT team is a small 2-man team so it gets -1 to hit on foot. They'd move slower than with transport, but the transport is more vulnerable to attack. Since you're almost totalled out on points, you'd almost certainly have to sacrifice a more useful unit to squeeze it in. If you had spare points to cover it, it might be a more attractive idea.
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>>86829572
Gotcha. Thanks for the info!
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>>86829558
We'll see I like playing for fun, much better than playing for competition.

I would recommend the light 70mm mountain gun as an artillery piece. AT guns are never worth it but AT rifles are good, multi use (shoot vets, and soft skins) They have a good selection of tankettes available in the armored car slot, and you could do a bit better for a tank than the chi ha. The ha go is cheaper, smaller, and is armed p much the same RaW. But you also have some good choices for artillery armed tanks. Their SNLF are good infantry and you can ploink your MMG into a machine gun section and basically have an additional squad with it embedded. Also island warfare squads can be taken as 4 men, which is good for LMGs.

Japs can be very good for "dig me off this objective, fucker" if you use them well.
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>>86829619
Thanks for the info! Do at rifles do much in late war? Also noob question what is the real difference between all the infantry?
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>>86829647
AT rifles are good for shooting everything other than tanks. They're cheap, a small squad, an the pen on the rifle makes them very useful.

And hell yeah there's a lot of difference in the infantry. The japs have a wide selection of pretty generic infantry with no real upgrades of any worth but also have several fancy kinda specific squads worth looking at. A 7 man grenadier squad with 3 mortars is a good support squad. Their fancy squads like their SNLF and paras are pretty sharp, multiple SMG upgrades. The engineer squad can take the Flame Thrower in it keeping it a bit safer, the Manchurian Cavalry Squad can be mounted.
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>>86829711
Gotcha. Good to know! What books are good for Japanese?
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>>86829776
Real early war units are in the "Empire in flames" book like cavalry, and cav mounted officers, plus their engineer flame tank

The Burma book has improvised AT squads, and night infiltrators, and captured Stewart tanks

The Marainas and Peleliu book has stuff like rifle grenades and amphibious trucks.

It depends on what you want. None of them are must buys imo it depends on what your looking for. Check out the website EasyArmy for list building and fuckin around before you commit to buying anything.
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>>86768911
Use generic dried herbs and spices
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>>86829811
Thanks! Ive been using easy army but the staggering amounts of formations is a big overwhelming haha
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>>86829939
Most of them are designed for building a rough historical list ment for a matched historical game which 99% of players ignore.
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>>86822167
It's alright, I play it with younger cousins for the simple ruleset. Pretty fun with the terrain and commander rules.
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>>86720243
What system do you recommend for playing ancient Greeks?
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>>86808523
Yifftastic! Thanks a bunch anon I wanted the book but it was over $100 when I last saw it for sale
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>>86832132
Have a look at Men of Bronze. While it's far from perfect, it's easy to get into and I had fun.
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What sort of modern miniatures are those? I know of Spectre but I don't know of any other sort of modern minis.
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Another point of Anglo-Normans for Saga
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>>86834771
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>>86834776
How do you do such excellent weathering on the shields?
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>>86836271
LBM transfers
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How to cope when local community don't wan to play anything other than WWII 28mm and FoW?
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>>86838252
if you yourself only want to play ww2 but just not those games, you are part of the problem and basically worse than them.
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>>86838252
Paint up two armies and demo games. That or go recruiting gullible teens and college students.
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>>86838307
1/5 bait here's you're (you)
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>>86821120
Erramirs dudes are great, I backed a kickstarter of his and got these nice pikemen from it. They are 10mm though.
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>>86744249
>be history teacher in the Netherlands
>become head of history department for no fucking reason
>Dude named Tom applies
>Hire him
>He does not play Men Doing Fights
Damn I was so disappointed. Tom is still a great guy though
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>>86745987
Their Normans are great, I am basing a whole bunch of them tonight
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>>86786874
>I'm not sure you can use different "sets" of battleboards together
You can use different historical sets against each other.
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>>86744249
>>86838917


How many toms basically only play solo/ in their basement? Would some sort of solo automation be exciting to them for men doing fights?

I know men who would be kings had a very primitive notion of this.
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>>86839691
I am not named Tom, but I do enjoy solo play wargames.
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>>86839746
I was referring more to Tom as in the lifestyle movement per se.
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>>86839843
speaking of which, toms, I have become a plates on walls guy
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>>86839861
plates as in eating plates?
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>>86834776
What are these miniatures?
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>>86836271
They’re transfers I’m afraid
>>86840694
6 are Victrix Saxons (including monk), 2 are Victrix Norman’s. I’m mixing them to evoke a post-invasion barony
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Does anyone make plastic gladiators kits? Preferably not monopose but whatever.
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>>86842799
Monkey's paw. Yes, but in 1/72. I bought two, but I bet it's not what you wanted.
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>>86843470
No, I was looking for some stuff for a inquisimunda warband, so I needing 28mm stuff.
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>>86842799
>>86843526
afaik there are no plastic gladiators in 28mm. The most you'll be able to find are some of the more iconic helmets as bits from the aftermarket.
However there is quite a huge range of metal minis, so whatever you are looking for you can likely get it as a metal mini.
https://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/Jugula.html
https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/collections/gladiators
https://www.crusaderminiatures.com/list.php?cat=1&sub=27&page=1

Since you mentioned 40k you should also check out the urban war range by scotia grendel. They have have a bunch of sci-fi gladiators
https://www.shop.scotiagrendel.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=217_218_60_75
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>>86826262
boomers on caravan holidays.
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>>86843526
>>86842799
You'll need to look into 3d printing for this
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Is there already a pdf of it?
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Hey friends, my gf is going to buy me a box of 15mm WW2 Germans for my christmas present, I wanna get one of the infantry sets by Plastic Soldier Company. I'm thinking of getting the early war one, but what are the differences between them, and which one has better sculpts?
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>>86847351
Don't get that one, its the early production box with shitty, weedy sculpts. The EW one is the best, FJ next and Normandy Grenadiers are also decent (a lot of helmets have foliage camo which I don't like though, that the only minor negative for me).


Either get the Early War box (good until 1943/early1944: AT Rifles, 5cm mortars and MG34s) or the Normandy Grenadiers, which despite the name is just late war German Grens ('fausts, schrecks, MG42s, etc).

Both have an accompanying weapons box set that is also very good value for money. For reference, I mean these sets: check the codes and cover art/picture (I don't mean you have to buy from PSC by posting links).

Early War boxes:
https://www.theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/product/15mm-early-war-german-infantry-1939-42-2/
https://www.theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/product/15mm-early-war-german-heavy-weapons-1939-42-2/

Normand Grenadiers/Late War boxes:
https://www.theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/product/15mm-german-grenadiers-in-normandy-1944/
https://www.theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/product/15mm-german-grenadiers-in-normandy-heavy-weapons-2/

I wish PSC would simply withdraw their early crappy stuff but I guess they can keep suckcering some people with sales.
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>>86847351
And since PSC are literally too stupid and lazy to post the old sprue contents pictures, here they are for the Early War Infantry and Heavy Weapons set. Not the best quality but that's PSC for you.
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>>86847853
* best quality pics I mean, the figures are good and excellent value for money.
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>>86847351
Get the FoW germans.
They are unironical good sculpts.
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>>86848049
>>86847768
Thanks anons, we got the Early War one. I wanna do eastern front stuff so I'll probably get soviets too in the near future. Are the PSC ones good? The FoW stuff seems kinda pricy. My other option is to get metal models from Campaign Game Miniatures, they seem decent, are cheap and I've got the store close nearby.
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>>86848305
The BF plastic Soviet infantry are pretty good, easily the best option in plastic. The PSC Soviet Inf kit was the first they did and is poor, also weedy little sculpts. BF has plastic guns which are very good and gun crews too, etc. Most BF stuff is excellent if vehicles or hard-plastic infantry. The newer soft-plastic infantry are hit-or-miss
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>>86847351
dunno about ze germans but I have summer soviets and plastic is god awful.
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Is Perry having a hidden sale right now? I see no announcements and the prices haven’t changed on the website, yet when I add items to my cart, the price gets reduced in cart
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>>86848605
Unfortunately it's likely just the British taxes being removed so that when you buy your local taxes can be added more easily
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>>86848605
>>86848610
As the anon said, Bong VAT is removed for Eurangutangs.
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>>86849029
>>86848610
does perry ever have sales during the holidays or should I just pull the trigger now rather than waiting?
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>>86850296
theyre already very reasonable tbf
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>>86850677
they are but i'm a (((thrifty))) guy and am always looking for the best deal possible
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Anyone have any recommendations for 28mm Chinese Muslims for 20s through 50s wargames? Think that perry afgans could fit the build?
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>>86850979
>perry afgans
They wouldn't really work. Chinese muslims have a kind of Han/Turkic thing going on.
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Is there such a thing as removeable surcoats/tabards available to buy or would i be best trying to make them myself? I'm doing some normans and feel like putting on white surcoats would be a cheeky way to make them into crusaders.
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>>86853908
forgot to add for 28mm victrix normans
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>>86850296
Perry's don't do deals simce they're already selling at a very cheap price. Six metal men for £8 is mind-blowing compared to others that sell four for £8 or more.
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>>86853908
greenstuff would work, but not as removeable.
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Is Tabletop sim good for /hwg/ stuff? There is a sale on Steam
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>>86854157
yes especially miniature wargames but there is a pretty good selection of H&C games as well. Vassal + TTS are the essential programs for digital /hwg/
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Anyone have Warlords Epic Waterloo as a pdf ?
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>>86829343
Aye, Warsaw uprising, Germans snatched a lot of Italian equipment after they switched sides and units that got them ended up fighting in Warsaw.
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>>86848049
These pictured ones are actually the worst figures I have ever seen. Sculpts are terrible, long noses huge heads, not to mention they are made from flexible soft plastic that just sucks ass. Say away from them as far as possible. Get Battlefronts hard plastic ones, they are great or any metal ones. These are just terrible.
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>>86855304
I prefer the soft plastic 2bh, even if it is a mixed bag when it comes to quality and casting, hard plastic has super limited poses and I cant be doing with it.
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>>86790978
I really like Baroque
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>>86852493
Hmm that's a good point, well do you or any other anon have any suggestions? Could the wargames Atlantic boxer kit be bashed into a more than/Turkic chinamen?
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Does anyone have Saga: Varjazi & Basileus? It's the only Saga PDF I don't have
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>>86854210
apparently many people still use the LTO tagged might and reason engine on TTS our club put out during COVID.



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