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Yu-Gi-Oh! General #458

Gate Guardian Edition

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>>86094257

Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CAC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.

>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online Play
Automated Sims:
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>Alternative Formats
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>Useful Links
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>Decklists
OCG:https://www.izazin.com/taikai/results?tag=遊戯王
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>News Sites
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>Upcoming Releases
OCG
●Photon Hypernova (Oct 15)
●Selection 5 (November 5)
●Structure Deck: Forest of the Traptrix (December 3)
●Cyberstorm Access (January 14, 2023)
TCG
●Structure Deck: Legend of the Crystal Beasts (Sep 29)
●Darkwing Blast (October 20)
●Magnificent Mavens (November 3)
●Battles of Legend: Crystal Revenge (November 17)
●Structure Deck: Dark World (December 1)
●Amazing Defenders (January 20, 2023)

>Upcoming /tg/ Tournaments
None on the horizon
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NYAAAA
SPOOKY SEASON IS HERE
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>>86122733
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>>86122710
Bump question
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>>86122805
Trade them for other cards you want?
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>>86122733
I never understood how this worked. Could he only do this if he beat them in a game?
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>>86122711
>Upcoming /tg/ Tournaments
>None on the horizon
We really need to fix this. What format do people here feel like playing?
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Some anon posted his branded despia list for me to try and in playtesting, maybe I'm dumb since I never played tears, but how the hell do you actually get Kaleido heart out with this?
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>>86122835
Do card shops do trades?
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>>86122878
There's the remote duel tournaments we had and I wouldn't mind getting those started again. As for what format, I'm completely satisfied with the current format except one card, Mystic Mine. Ban it and we're good.
If we were to hypothetically start remotes again the best would probably be in a few weeks come mid Nov. so that way people have had time to purchase tin singles and at a price not too affected by it being too new.

The biggest problem was people flaking last minute because they had "other stuff to do" depite the date being decided weeks in advance. Was it really too had to put aside 4 hours on a weekend?
It was brought up where the tournament could be a stretch-tournament where you play one round each week and you and your opponent can decide what time works for both of you. Given that our player pool is maybe a dozen people, 4 rounds meaning 4 weeks would have been enough. Yet people who were asking for the single day because 1 day of choice a week was too hard were the ones who ended up flaking anyway.
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>>86123208
i was thinking edison
format is significantly cheaper
good deck variety
feels modern
but do not have to keep track of as much
overall easier to get a good chunk of people playing
so there are still a good number when anons flake
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>>86123376
Nice. Out of all the monsters, I would most like to have sex with Stardust Dragon. No idea why but when I saw him for the first time back in 2008 when I was only 11, he awakened something deep inside of me. No other monster from any other media has made me feel this way. This bussy belongs to Stardust Dragon.
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>>86123188
I mean any decent LGS should have a trade/swap folder right?
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>>86123376
>Registering your proclivities with whatever likely-government agency is in charge of issuing permits
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>>86123506
yes, the monster fucker department so they'll never not give you one.
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>>86122942
You're not going to be able to consistently without the field spell since you have no way to fuse him or King of the Swamp into the GY with Branded Fusion unfortunately. I've played a hard going second Branded Tear deck for the past few months and without field spell access your Tear plays are limited to spamming out Masquerades.
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>>86123376
Awoooooooo.
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>>86123356
I'd join for sure.
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>>86122805
Sell them for $20 total, use them as trades, or hold them to see if they go up. They're both strong enough to be evergreen techs. Any deck with a link-1 can use Link INTO ZA VURAINSO since it has zero negative downsides unlike other similar tech extenders like Ties of the Brethren. It has nothing but positive effects and as long as link-1s keep being made it'll have a home. Small World is weirder but some decks like Mathmech love it since it gets them to their combo starter through most hands as long as you play something like Veiler or Nibiru as a bridge. I found out recently that the Skull Meister I was teching into Mathmech as a searchable hand trap against Tear bridged literally everything in the deck to everything else. The card is complicated but it has its applications and any deck Konami prints that happens to mesh and bridge with itself will likely see Small World played to some extent.
One thing I've noticed with these cards is that they've tracked upwards after the tins released which is unusual. They're good cards.
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>>86124454
I was probably going to get the field spell soon anyways, but is it just by milling king of the swamps into the grave and with multiple reinos?

I just dont see the play in order to make kaleido heart
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>>86125230
If you draw King you pitch, if you mill King, if you mill Reino, if you add Reino off field spell or Kitkalos, etc. The field spell is usually used to grab Scheiren most of the time anyway. Kaleido is a really sticky bastard but the deck is still Mirrorjade + Masquerade turbo. The Tears add a lot of easy access to cards you already want to summon like Masquerade and Dragostapelia.
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please help
MTG has gone full clown world and I'm actually just done with it
what's the best way to start getting into YGO?
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>>86125945
Play Master Duel, realize the game is shit then go back to MTG.
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>>86126083
>Play Master Duel, realize the game is shit
got it

>then go back to MTG.
lmao FUCK NO, have you seen the shit going on over there?
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>>86125945
Try Master Duel, find a group at a local shop, pick up something cheap that looks cool to you, get told by us or your locals group that the deck isn't worth playing, continue to play until you're decent. If you want a good starter product pick up three Albaz Strike structure decks. It can be upgraded cheaply and contains a ton of good cards that are playable when shoved together and a lot of cards that are universally good. Half of the structure deck is built for supporting the Branded archetype and the rest of it is a mix of a ton of generic Dragon cards that can let you upgrade into Dragon Link and the aforementioned good stuff like some hand traps and blowouts. For ~$35 no other product will get you started better since it's so comprehensively good while being a legitimately competitive deck.
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>>86126099
If Yugioh ends up not being to your taste either try the new Digimon TCG.
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>>86126149
Hmm yes, sweet, thanks for the advice
>reads more
Damn okay that's pretty clear, should help me get into the game...
>For ~$35 no other product will get you started better
Oh cool w-
>Double takes
>35 dollars
That's... that's a typo, right?
You meant 350 right?... at least?
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This is legitimately the worst game ever made and it baffles me how many konami bootlickers still exist
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>>86126192
It'll get you in the door but power creeps so fast and so hard in Yugioh that you'll be buying entirely new decks two or three times a year. That Modern Burn deck will probably be 80% the same in five years.

On the bright side, a few format staples got reprinted in the annual tins that came out last week so prices on those are way down. Aside from the fact that the Spright/Tearlament dominant meta is ass, now is not a bad time to buy into Yugioh.
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>>86126192
No. Three Albaz Strikes will net you a decent starting deck that can be upgraded with a Despia core, maybe some hand traps, and a Polymerization engine like Frightfur Patchwork. The most expensive thing in the pure Branded Despia deck is a card called Guardian Chimera which is $45 a pop. The deck normally runs one or two but can do a similar interaction line with a penny common called Predaplant Dragostapelia. Instead of getting a draw 2 pop one it's a targeted monster negate and counter spreader but the main power play that Guardian Chimera is used in involves flipping Branded in Red (a quick play fusion) to fuse a spent Mirrorjade (the boss monster) with a card called Ad Libitum of Despia to get Mirrorjade slapped back on the field after being used as fusion material. You can also buy the much less powerful Crystal Beast structure deck later this month to get even more staples in Ash Blossom (the most commonly played card in the game), Ghost Belle (very strong hand trap this format that plays offense and defense), and Cosmic Cyclone (backrow removal that the Albaz Strike SD lacks). Ash Blossom is routinely a $30 card even for common prints so getting three for $30 might be worth it even if the actual Crystal Beast cards suck.
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>>86126273
>That Modern Burn deck will probably be 80% the same in five years.
Jokes on you, eternal formats in MTG have been rotating for fucking years now and it's part of the reason I'm fucking done with the game. 30% of cards played in fucking Legacy, the oldest format, right now are from one of the newest sets. Over 80% of Modern is cards from the past two years, each costing 20-80 dollars for one copy.

The rotation I can handle, I've played Standard. The rotation PLUS every new meta deck being over 1000 fucking dollars is something I just can not accept. Doesn't help that Standard decks are even over 500 bucks now.
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>>86126192
There's no meme or mistake. 3x of the structure decks runs $35, the extra cards to improve it to meta builds is about $25 total. The only expensive thing is how much you want to put in goodstuff staples to your taste.
Branded despia was a tier 1 deck until about late july at which point people just wanted to play something new after a half a year of that. The deck isn't limited in amy way since then, people just wanted to play Tearlament and Spright.
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>>86126282
>but the main power play that Guardian Chimera is used in involves flipping Branded in Red (a quick play fusion) to fuse a spent Mirrorjade (the boss monster) with a card called Ad Libitum of Despia to get Mirrorjade slapped back on the field after being used as fusion material.
now this is the type of autism I can get behind.
I'll order a deck tomorrow, mate, and see when my store has events.
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>>86126302
>30% of cards played in fucking Legacy, the oldest format, right now are from one of the newest sets. Over 80% of Modern is cards from the past two years, each costing 20-80 dollars for one copy.
That's true of other decks but I picked Burn for a reason.
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>>86126339
Still runs 5 modern horizons lands.
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>>86126379
Yeah and that set was three years ago.
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>>86126192
NTA but the Albaz Strike deck is a good baseline for beginners since if you construct a deck out of it using 3 copies, you get a lot of explosive power and easy access to strong boss monsters, while also coming with a lot of staples that generally just help with the game. While not competitively viable, it's easily one of the best prebuilt decks they've released in ages. You can also build it into a pretty fearsome deck with minimal external investment. Some backrow removal (Twin Twisters in particular works well), a couple of tech cards (Infinite Impermanence, Forbidden Chalice, or Effect Veiler, and Fusion Deployment), and a copy of Eldlich the Golden Lord opens the door to a lot on their own. Starting out with that will make easing into the current game pretty easy, and show you what's necessary and what isn't.

Meta Decks are also still damned expensive, but Konami has been making efforts to slaughter the prices on secondary markets lately. A lot of powerful staples got reprints in Albaz Strike, the 2022 tins, and the upcoming Crystal Beast structure deck, which turned DPE into a $50+ card to a $5 card overnight. A lot of the staples can be carried between many decks, so I don't factor the generic ones into pricing personally. Pic related is an example of that, most of the cost comes from Infinite Impermanence (which you can get for $10, or $15 if you just buy 3 copies of the Cyber Strike deck) and stuff that is carried over from other decks. A lot of deck's cores are relatively cheap with a few cards that bloat their prices by a lot.
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>>86126435
Slightly misleading wording here,
>Infinite Impermanence (which you can get for $10, or $15 if you just buy 3 copies of the Cyber Strike deck)
Singles of Infinite Impermanence go for that much. It hasn't gotten a lot of reprints and the Cyber Strike deck didn't have enough going for it that imperms flooded the secondary market, so a lot of people buy the whole deck just for that card. It makes justifying the cost of cardboard a little bit easier at least.
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>>86126428
problem being is that burn's Wr is like 48% right now, and is far lower against the top decks, and it only sees play because it is the "Budget" option

The budget option... at 500 dollars. I hope you get my point. Magic is fucked, I just can't play it anymore.
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>>86126494
The best decks in the meta cost $500 unless you're ballin and want to build them with expensive stuff that might not work as well as a penny common. The current broken deck has a field spell which costs $70 each (you play three) and used a Danger engine (costs ~$40) alongside the main Tearlament core (most expensive monster is the worst one you don't normally play three of) to turbo extra deck monsters that cost maybe $5 using a stupid little common squirrel girl that jumps out of the GY by banishing seven cards into the arrow of a mecha dragon that nukes the field when things are summoned into its arrows and comes back to OTK on the next turn. Zeroboros, the boss monster that nukes the field and OTKs? Only printed in foil. The cost? 50 cents.
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>>86125546
How do people get it out in normal Tears?
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>>86126568
Playing more copies along with RotA, searching it, and milling more often than the Branded variant. Your hand not being diluted by non-Tears means you have clearer and easier lines to it. Pure/Midrange Tear plays a turn of sculpting your hand and GY based on what you open and what you hit on mills. You sculpt for what you don't already have and if your gameplan is Kaleido + backrow most hands can get you there.
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>>86126542
>The best decks in the meta cost $500...
The top meta deck in Legacy (The eternal, all cards but the banned ones legal) format is $4400. Excluding the cards they can't reprint for legal reasons, it's still over $1000. The price points between the games isn't even compareable.

I've heard that in YGO, you can at least trust that format staples will be reprinted eventually and can pick them up then.
In MTG, they have an internal financial team that tracks what they call 'Reprint Equity' and decides when it is acceptable to reprint a card in a way to prevent its price from dropping. Format staples in MTG only see VERY rare reprints in special sets (15 dollar packs instead of 4 dollar packs) at mythic rarity (1 mythic rare every 8 packs).
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>>86126604
Konami is better on this but they're still exceedingly Jewish sometimes. The current yearly tin was obligated to compile sets that were so awful that they had to bulk out the set with playable cards people needed from past years like modern hand traps and board breakers that have seen play in the past few years. Cards like Forbidden Droplet and Lightning Storm which have been reprinted a few times but have never been cheap since they've been chase cards, Pot of Prosperity which may have been the only good eternal generic printed last year that was $130 a copy for awhile since it was so sought after by competitive players while being the only chase card of one of the worst sets ever printed, and previous tin exclusives that see competitive play like Nibiru, Dimension Shifter, Dark Ruler No More, and Crossout Designator to get them in the hands of more people. The problem is the tins have so many cards in them that pulling what you want is difficult and Konami decided to half print Prosperity, Lightning Storm, and Droplet when those were the only cards that people wanted from the set since they were so expensive. I just had to bite the bullet and pick up a playset of Prosperity for my brother for $130 for the playset. Give it a few years and they'll be in structure decks as a common but until then we have to pay for that tiny bit of extra throughput. Thing is those cards aren't without real alternatives. Prosperity digs three or six and lets you add one card revealed to the hand. This is stronger than the alternatives because you get to choose which card you add. You could play Extravagance instead (similar cost to activate, comes in common in Albaz Strike) but it pays its cost randomly and blind draws two cards. To illustrate the point better: Extravagance was just as hyped and expensive as Prosperity was and saw a similar reprint cycle where it was still expensive after being reprinted. Shit comes down eventually.
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>>86126604
>In MTG, they have an internal financial team that tracks what they call 'Reprint Equity' and decides when it is acceptable to reprint a card in a way to prevent its price from dropping. Format staples in MTG only see VERY rare reprints in special sets (15 dollar packs instead of 4 dollar packs) at mythic rarity (1 mythic rare every 8 packs).
Wow that’s fucking gay. At least with Konami you can trust them to always be straight to the point in making money, so you can expect expensive, sought-after cards to be reprinted semi-regularly but given rarities that can be considered attainable but not so common that people will just buy singles instead of the set itself. Still incredibly Jewish but at least it’s smart Jewing, not idiotic Jewing like whatever the fuck Wizards are doing.
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>Still incredibly Jewish but at least it’s smart Jewing, not idiotic Jewing like whatever the fuck Wizards are doing.
If you have not yet been enlightened to the absolute state of WotC hand wringing, you're blessed. Recently they 'found' palettes of old sets and added cards from them into a new set randomly as special rare pack openings.

Except it came alongside a post that they won't be including any of the 'racist' cards from the old sets in said new packs. Many 'racist' cards which were coincidentally very expensive. Wizards assures us that those naughty, evil cards were certainly going to the burners! And definitely, ABSOLUTELY NOT into the pockets of Wizards employees! These bad racist cards would NEVER find their way to the secondary market! No sir!

Seriously, WotC has no rival in this field. No other company even comes close.
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>>86126665
>Give it a few years and they'll be in structure decks as a common but until then we have to pay for that tiny bit of extra throughput.
Ahh, so Konami is more of the "Pump and dump" kind of cheeky fucks. Makes sense, it's a great strategy for a card game as it does make you good profits while also not screwing the players indefinitely.
WotC pumps, but they rarely dump.
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>>86122711
People still care about this dying game?
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>>86126950
it's on the upswing as it's eating all the MTG players that can't stomach the gay carnival set where putting stickers on your cards is legal in competitive play.
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>>86126965
Wrong you dumb bitch, yugioh will ALWAYS be dead last against MtG and Pokemon
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>>86126977
okay yeah it's probably always going to be behind pokemon but
for fuck sake mate
have you seen the absolute state of MTG
like, for real, actually
ho ly fuck it's a clownshow right now
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>>86126986
Doesn't matter, still way more enjoyable than whatever the fuck yugioh has become over the last decade
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>>86127017
>Doesn't matter, still way more enjoyable than whatever the fuck yugioh has become over the last decade
no it uh
it really isn't actually
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>>86126986
Stickers aren't much different from counters, all of the complaining is just blown out of proportion
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>>86127079
Yeah but you can still use shiny custom stones as counters, seen a couple of people carry a bunch when they play endimyon

Stickers seem to be on the same level of stupidity as twin-headed behemoth rulings forcing it to be limited
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>>86126604
>cards they can't reprint for legal reasons
Wut
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>>86127263
Establishing the Reserved List puts them in a lot of legal binds if they ever do reprint them.
They almost got sued out the ass for illegal business practises when they reprinted one card from the RL in a special, limited run premium collection of famous old cards.

Basically, they promised not to reprint collectable items, and did so publicly in an official statement made by the company itself. It is anti-consumer for a company to make public declarations about protecting the value of assets they produced, then go back on that promise.
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>>86127290
>Basically, they promised not to reprint collectable items, and did so publicly in an official statement made by the company itself
Why would they ever fucking do this? What's the logic behind it?
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>>86127318
>Why would they ever fucking do this? What's the logic behind it?
They did a big retarded reprint set that destroyed the value of tons of peoples' collections, so they panicked and made a list of 'protected' cards so the game didn't fucking implode.
They published the list in an official statement as a company, which makes it worse than merely the head of the company saying something like "Okay guys yeah these are the cards that we won't be reprinting."
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>>86127327
dumbasses
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>>86127353
Hey man it was back when card games were still brand new and nobody knew what the fuck they were doing.
The game literally almost died. People were selling out, card prices tanked, it was a pure panic move. Dumbasses indeed, but understandable, and it arguably saved the game, and TCGs as a whole, in the long run.
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>I want to fuck x card
>y tcg is worse
>(company that runs game) is shit
as a brief pause from these interesting and nuanced topics, post bad cards that still sound interesting
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>>86127562
forgot image, this does a surprising amount of things with only 1 card
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>>86127562
I used to run this plus Ceremonial Bell many, many years ago. Not really as part of a strategy, but just cause I thought it was novel. You could probably make a working deck around having both players’ hands and deck revealed but it would be very situational. Might be fun to try though.
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>>86127562
>>86127590
Was also a fan of this. I like unique cards like these, even if they aren’t particularly useful at times they do things and work in ways that no other cards do. IIRC this was the very first card where the placement of monsters in zones actually mattered, many years before Links made it a core mechanic.
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>>86127590
I think nowadays you'd use this instead of ceremonial bell, in general this is another very interesting one: it's a nice amount of burn damage, cycles, and on top of the obvious normal summon floodgate, it also floodgates cards like illusion of chaos and dangers on top of getting in the way of normal summons
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why are there no good covers of yugioh songs on youtube? you music niggas need to start doing some shit fr
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>>86127562
Started in the game with a casual deck built around gran maju
i still love 'em to this day
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>>86128142
Gren Maju's only flaw is that he's not searchable. I don't think an archetype would be the answer, just a way to search and/or special summon him would do wonders
>inb4 he already has an archetype
Those are a series of related cards, not an archetype.
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>>86128191
>just a way to search and/or special summon him would do wonders
Oh man I'd be totally hyped for that. Even something that helps him be fringe playable, I'd love to cobble together my old casual pet deck again.
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>>86128191
>>86128237
you can summon him from the deck using Lucent if you can fit in Dark World cards in your deck
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>>86128241
Ehhh, still a bit too clunky I'd say. Might be worth a try though just for some quick fun games.
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>>86128191
you can summon him off tour guide. problem is you'd then have to find a way tl get him off the field then put him back on.
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>>86128265
yeah it's just that you ALSO have to set up enough shit to get him to be worth even summoning at all.
He gets to rube goldberg machine levels at that point.
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>>86128593
getting cards in the gy is usually a very benificial thing, so there aren't a ton of cards that send a whole bunch of cards at once. there are however, several cards that banish many of your cards as a downside, so gren maju can actually be buffed a lot easier than chaos necromancer. and that's not even mentioning that chaos necromancer only gets buffed from monsters instead of all cards or that gren maju straight up gets a larger buff per card.
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>>86126977
Cope and seethe.
Magic is only in 3rd because the Dollar is strong right now.
Otherwise, Duel Masters kicks your game's ass.
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>>86128829
>Caring about gooks

Have fun playing against them with their OCG cards. Oh, wait!
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>>86122711
Can't wait to get Gate Guardian on Cross duel.
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>bought all psi-beast from my country market at 0,15 cents
>now they're 7$ and skyrocketing
Holy shit, finally some good move. Bought 28 of them, now its time to make some money.
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Retards, all of you. Horse Prince summons Gren Maju from deck.
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>>86128829
>duel masters
a discount yugioh that I've never heard of before in my life bigger than basically all of magic. wow.
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>>86129323
good luck kikebro.
i myself got not one, not two but THREE fucking Marthacoin! to the moon baby!!
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>>86129848
I pulled a Martha from my single tin. You can have it for $1000!!!
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>>86128593
In Goat format I play him with Shadow Ghoul in a deck that uses Magical Merchant and Fiend Comedian to dump monsters into the grave and power them up.
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>>86129848
this is unironically the most expensive binder page ever posted here lmao
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>>86130210
I've posted my WIP max rarity Heralds page before. My UTR orange light alone ($150) is worth more than 3x martha (3x$12 + other stuff above it ~$5 = $40). Not to mention I bought a playset of Diviners months ago for about $50 each.

inb4 lmao wasted money on diviners
It was months ago, you didn't have a choice nor tins as an option.
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>pull Soul Energy MAX from my tins
>now feel compelled to tech it and Obelisk into my deck just on the off chance I'll be able to resolve it
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>>86130210
I could throw a page together but it'd just be to show off and would be pointless when it'd just be a bunch of ultis I run in decks and a playset of Pelereinos pulled out of my current deck.
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Just ordered a second ulti Baxia to go with the one I already have. I couldn't justify upgrading a secret Yazi to ulti though.
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ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT A BANLIST
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>>86130210
there was a couple boomers here that had graded cards like bgs dds blue eyes, and 1st ed DM binders
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What's the best place to buy official OCG sleeves? In particular I want Jaden sleeves or some kind of HERO themed ones.
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>>86130991
use buyee and buy from mercari japan/yahoo auctions/ rakuten/ magi. just be ready to pay fees here and there and like minimum $20 shipping from japan. you need to search in japanese though so copy and paste the japanese name of whatever you want to buy. google and yugioh wiki are your friends.
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>>86130928
its not 3:00 yet
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how come skelengel looks nothing like a skeleton or an angel?
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>>86131244
because its also an invisible skelengel
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>>86125022
Neat advice anon, thanks.
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>>86127764
I found this one recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLkMX4n22M
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>>86130594
Do it anon it may not be good but sure is fun, I play to use both with my virtual world deck.
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>>86126704
Man, you should have seen when we had a weekly section to laugth at magic the gathering.
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>>86129814
Technically, it's currently under the name Kaijudo. This is because Wizards owns the name "Duel Masters" and the reason you haven't heard of it anyway is because Wizards murdered it before it could kill Magic.

See, Magic wasn't doing so hot in Japan when their market exploded, so Wizards created it as an easy intro to have people be introduced to mana and the such so they could break through Pokémon. It wasn't supposed to be big. But they made a mistake.

See, they made it so the way you get mana is setting a monster or spell facedown. It completely removed Mana Flood and Mana Screw from the game, and this made the game explode and no one wanted to go to Magic because this solved a core issue while introducing a trade off by sacrificing a powerful creature to make plays. It almost killed Magic because it started blowing up globally as well, so Wizards had to shut it down fast, basically quarantine it to Japan and effectively locking them out of the market.
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>>86132286
WotC really do be trying to murder its own properties.
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>>86132286
…wait, why would they care if their sales went from one IP they owned to another IP they owned?
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>will never play irl
>have no real storage space for bulk cards
>still feel like buying a booster box just to feel something
dimension force or battle of chaos?
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>>86132826
They would inevitably lose customers in the transition and they hedged on MTG making them more money in the long run.

The other option is that at the time the people in charged actually liked mtg and didn't want it to die

I.e. they were retarded
Safe to say nobody who remains likes magic.
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>>86132826
>>86132857
If I was in their shoes I would have played both sides like palpatine. I would have built up duel masters and got my money from that and slowly over time make the game worse and worse. At the same time I would improve upon and make changes to MTG based on things that were successful in duel masters. I would have introduced a new land type of card that would be like creatures or spells that could do stuff and slowly phase regular land cards out of the game in a similar way normal monsters were "phased" out of yugioh.
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>>86132922
The problem is that magic players fucking HATE change. That's why it's so funny that their game is now changing and they know it will never ever stop and now they're stuck with it. I pray more of them see the light and just play something else. Digimon is hella fun.
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>>86132972
I looked up how to play them, and digimon and duel masters are very similar, except for their resource system. I think the memory system in digimon is super clever though.
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>>86130956
Has anyone here posted them pulling a 10k Dragon?
>>86130210
I think my rarest/most expensive (that I'm aware of) cards are a few Secret Rare cards from the earlier packs. Also some Shonen Jump promos, Video game Promos, and random Ultra Rare cards from sets a few years ago.
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>>86131244
>>86131282
"Skel-" is a mistranslation of "sukeru" meaning invisible, and the OCG art has a halo instead of a crown. It's an invisible angel, not a skeleton angel.
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>>86133016
Most Japanese TCG take inspiration from Duel Masters.
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>>86129848
>>86129323
Niggers you two broke faggots should be ashamed of yourselves
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>>86134001
Relax anon, I can sell 3x Psi-beast for you... Only 5,50
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>>86134024
>comma
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>>86132826
Because it wasn't fully owned by them, they were licensing it. That's why they killed a lot of the rules in importing and didn't put it out in good quality when it truly took off. They imported it twice (the second is where Kaijudo name came from, not that's what its named in Japan) in order to cement it as being unable to come out from Japan.

Another bit >>86132286 didn't mention. You know how Pokemon has the Prize cards? Duel Masters has Shield cards that do the same 'tracking life', but when your shield is destroyed you add it to your hand. In-built catchup mechanic and life is not an abstract resource without doing that life deck bullshit that just kills games.
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Where do I find and possibly work at the factories where they print the cards?
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>>86134024
No thanks spic
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>>86134143
lol lmao even
It would be easier to dumpster dive at those places. And if it was that easy don't you think more people would be doing it?
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>>86134342
>cope - the post
lmao
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>>86134399
>Cope
>Proceeds to post cope themselves
Ok "invest"fag, post hand with card pile.
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>>86134143
Probably china. If your galaxy brain idea is that you're going to steal cards from the factory by working at it you're stupid.
Let's quickly weigh the options here
>Work at a literal Chinese sweatshop just to steal maybe $500 worth of cards each time for a few years.
>You have to live in china
>You're in china so there's no TCG scene to actually play.
or
>Spend a few years earning a degree/getting a trade skill/working long enough to get a good position in a business.
>You both can just afford to buy cards and have an actual life
>You don't live in china
Option A sure does sound like the smarter choice.
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>>86134501
>ass in flames because a fucking ,
OH NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! MY FUCKING SIDES ARE IN ORBIT!
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>>86134632
Post hand then. I'm sure there shouldn't be any issues here.
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another day...
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>>86134754
it never gets better does it
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>Youtuber Spends $500 on a vintage tin
>Freaks out after opening a $50 card
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>>86136034
its the little things anon
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>>86136034
That's what you open product for.
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>>86134395
No info. for it yet?
I want to see the list. I hope we get some OCG cards.
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>>86136034
Fucking hate Ruxin's videos.
>>86136150
We have the full set list from Rev and Lithium's openings. There's an MBT highlight where he watches the openings and gives some thoughts as someone who actually plays Speed Duels. The only really notable reprints are Dogoran as a secret and a reprint of Frost and Flame Dragon. It's a box made for Speed Duel players which I'm seeing a lot more of nowadays after the cube style box set format proved to be a hit.
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>>86136333
I'm using them as background noise right now while I'm dicking around and he cannot be making his money back at all even with ad revenue he has to have someone to whore himself out to. 120k A year is alot but not if you're dropping a grand a week on Yu-Gi-Oh.
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>>86136352
I think he does a lot of card grading which used to be able to sustain his type of content.
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>>86134024
Just 5.50? Several days ago I sold a playset for $9 each; I made almost $30! Anyone who buys it at that price is a fucking retard though, no offense to the guy I profited from.
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How much of a chance do you guys think there is that Baronne gets a reprint in MAMA since it looks like the theme is all female? I'm tempted to buy a couple display boxes for the Ishizu cards, but also kind of don't want to watch them get banned instantly and spend on the box for nothing.
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>>86136570
I just did that right now anon
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>>86136474
>Anyone who buys it at that price is a fucking retard though
You're not telling a lie, but people always get fucked by the hype in new archetypes, see people who bought King of the swamp when skyrocket aswell.
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>>86136352
If it is a grand per week, that's 52k, leaving about 68k left over. That's still above median income in most states before you account for anything he makes back off of ad deals, regular youtube ads, pulls that get any card much less going well, etc. Could probably get that number back over 100k+ and if he runs all that through an LLC, he can use whatever losses remain for a tax break.

He's probably fine.
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>>86136352
>>86136629
I believe he said he was a CPA before he quit to go youtube full time. I'm sure he's capable of handling his finances.
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>>86136629
He makes 120k at max from youtube and like 10k at the lowest
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>>86127614
this and bottomless shifting sand are the main draws of my cube
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Gren Maju Infection
>[Continuous Spell Card]
When this card is activated, you can equip this card to 1 monster you control. Once per turn, if this card is not equipped to a monster: You can pay LP equal to the number of banished cards x200, and target 1 monster you control; Equip this card to that monster. Monsters equipped with this card gain ATK/DEF equal to the number of banished cards x200, but they cannot activate their effects.
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I'm gay what deck do I play
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>>86139787
Hero
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>>86139787
How gay are we talkin? Cock smoker on a tee shirt gay, or you prefer male company gay?
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>>86139822
Straight appearing. If I were openly, obnoxiously gay I would play mtg
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Does Nibiru tend to further drop in price, or should I grab it now?
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>>86140209
I can't see the future but I think now would be a good time to buy it.
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>>86140209
It's not going to drop so much further that you'll be kicking yourself for picking up a playset.

If you're talking about buying 30 copies to sell later, I would probably not expect it to go under $2.30
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>>86139787
>I'm gay and don't want to win
Dream Mirror
>I'm gay and I want to win
Floowandereeze
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>>86139787
Crystal Beasts, Hero or Yubel.
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>>86139787
So do you um... have a bf or...?
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>>86140396
Yes but ty anon

>>86140389
Hero it is, though I'm more into twinky boys than hunks. Somehow ygo seems to have escaped the femboy menace for now. Or am I wrong?
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>>86140209
It's cheap. Grab it.
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>>86139787
Post hand
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>>86140530
If you're looking for femboys.
Magikey
Infernoble knights (you literally have Astolfo, yes they're about inline with that you'd expect)
Madolche (This is the #1 "I'm gay in bold font" archetype)
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>>86140741
Forgot pic. It's a damn shame he never got more art. Magikey is playable but relied too heavily on its gimmick. It should have given bonuses for matching up the attributes rather than being requirements for the entire effect.
The deck is super cheap and even has reprints in the recent tin making it dirt cheap so if you get it and don't end up liking it you're not losing much. Every card in the archetype has a print worth less than a quarter each, you could probably build the core of the deck for under $20 not including shipping/fees.
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>>86139787
If you want to go for anime lore, Crystal Beasts, T.G., or @Ignister are the ones that the character who played them is basically certain they're gay, with Stardust/Synchron, HERO, and Code Talker being arguable ones as those guys might be Bi.
If you are looking for male archetypes, looking for twink, muscular, or a different aesthetic?
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>>86140530
>though I'm more into twinky boys than hunks
Despia Branded.
Pic related is Aluber the Jester of Despia who wanted to fuse with another guy who is, though slightly muscular, also leans towards being a twink.
Albaz Strike Structure Deck means its pretty cheap to get a basic deck going by getting three of those, but you can decently easily expand what you can do with it and as it is part of an ongoing card storyline, more support is guaranteed to be on the way with splashable archetypes, particularly Byssted.
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Does anyone have any experience with Speed Duels? It looks like a cool format.
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>>86140950
>gayboi
>literally a bad dragon
huh
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>You've visited this page many times. Last visit: 9/24/22
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>>86140530
Dream Mirror
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>>86141271
Through Duel Links. It's better to play through DL since it's advanced up to links at this point and has a more fleshed out card pool, but regardless it's a nice format and a nice way to pick up legacy cards.

What I would like to do is have some super casual matches with people using my normal deck with DL's restrictions. A 20 card deck with a 5 card extra deck with the current card pool would be interesting imo
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Page 8 buster bump
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Edison mail day. I got a Speed Duel Volcanic core for use with Quickdraw if by brother ever decides to drop the Relinquished engine, a couple of Ritual Djinns that were unfortunately curled super hard, rarity bumps for his Quickdraws,Telekenetic Power Wells and Krebons for Krebons shenanigans, and a couple of loose cards for Dark Gaia Turbo.
Anybody get anything in recently?
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>Playing against dueling Robot to test out deck
>Things are going good and I'm gonna win with a twin blue eyes fusion dragon and a dragunity beater.
>Bots turn
>Activates spell card
>Send's have of it's deck to the GY
>Then activates another and special summons a whole row of extra deck monsters through some 4d chess GY and banish zone bullshit
>One of their affects destroys my entire field
>I lose
I hate this game so fucking much
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>>86144721
Blue Eyes sucks and doesn't interact with the opponent. What AI did you play against?
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Is tcgplayer still okay for ordering cards or is there something else now? Haven't played irl in a while.
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>>86145373
If you're in America yes. You can also check places like Ebay, Tier Zero games and Gamer's choice. Take your time looking around for the best price don't just mindlessly buy from one website. If you're in Europe, Cardmarket is the way to go.
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>>86145406
Cool thanks. I'm in the us and making a goat format deck so most of it will be cheap thankfully.
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>>86144721
>expecting to beat an AI capable of galaxy brain flawless sequencing
>using blue eyes
lol
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Someday Gem Knights will be top tier and all those packs of Hidden Arsenal I opened in my younger days will have been totally worth it.
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>>86144721
>BE
Lol
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>>86145373
The only other sites I'd suggest are Gamer's Choice and YGODaily for presales and YGODaily for their bargain bin deck cores. Otherwise it's always TCGPlayer.
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>>86144721
kek that reminds me of what happened to me once
>playing against Virtual World player on Master Duel
>have like 3 monsters on my side after finally taking out some of their strong monsters
>they only have some magic/trap face down, literally 1 card in their hand
>relief comes over me, thank God, its almost over
>their turn
>flips the magic card over
>suddenly pulling off a wombo combo special summoning, searching their deck multiple times, playing cards here and there
>at one point my monsters are getting killed off for some reason
>summons a boss monster, game is over, yet they keep going
>board is now full of monsters and magic cards
>I'm just sitting there watching this all unfold in shock and disgust
I had to quit playing for the night after that
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Hey /ygo/, I'm a guy in his 30's who wants to reconnect with his childhood.
Only without breaking the bank.
What are the most affordable decks to build? I looked into Vaylantz because mechas are pretty cool, and the main deck was only like $25 bucks on tcgplayer.
When I added in the fusion deck from the video I was copying, the total price jumped to up $200.
What kind of options do I have if I'm just looking to casually try out at a few different decks at my game shop to see what clicks and what doesn't?
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>>86146268
You could try an old format like goat format if your local place has people who play that
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>>86146268
I'd recommend watching people online play the Vaylantz archetype and seeing what they do and how they do it. It also may help to test that deck out virtually online first. If you still like it, then go for it. I think its important to know the deck really well first before buying it.
I'd recommend going for lowest rarity when playing (at least when starting out) to save money. Like you can buy an Ultra Rare of a card you want, or maybe save a few dollars buying its Speed Duel version.
Another thing could be substituting costly cards in with a cheaper card that is also good.
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>>86139787
Faggot
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>>86146152
Good decks are ones that can come back after having their board broken. They added a Lulu back to hand on turn 1 just for this.
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>>86146391
Oh no! That's the first time that's happened to me on 4chan and means a lot to me! You've cut me to the quick. I'll never recover.

Men having sex with men is based
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>>86144721
Bots are hilarious.
Anyone here watch bot v. bot duels?
Sometimes they go off.
Other times, they do the absolute dumbest shit you can't help but laugh at.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKohpQtRvAE
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>>86141627
Is duel links still worth playing or has master duel killed it? (I get their different formats but I remember seeing a lot of posts about people leaving duel links for master duel when it was released on steam)
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>>86146268
Don't play Vaylantz for starters. The deck is the worst kind of bad. Complicated as hell, goes for ten minutes on turn 1, literally plays a turn of an SRPG, puts up nothing and gets walked over by cheaper, easier, older, and better decks.
If you're picking the game up because you liked the anime, check out Speed Duels Your local shop might have a scene for it since the format is growing in popularity but it's not guaranteed. It's a heavily curated low power level version of the game that focuses on turning anime nostalgia into actual cardboard and from what I've seen it's actually successful at what it sets out to do. If you have friends who want to play with you there are box sets for Speed Duels which come with a bunch of precon decks that most people can pick up on and understand.
If you want to play to play but don't want to get a master's degree in cardboard you can look at simpler past formats like GOAT or Edison. The decks are cheap and the formats are slow enough that anyone can pick up on it. Edison in particular is gaining popularity since it has a ton of competitive fan favorite decks. GOAT is 2005 and Edison is 2010.
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>>86146268
The extradeck likely is filled with meta staples that go for >$50 each such as accesscode talker, selene, and others. Unless you underatand why you're playing those cards, DON'T BOTHER BUYING THEM.
As the others said, try play testing the deck on a digital simulator before buying anything. EDOpro and YGO Omega (see OP for downloads) are two automatic simulators similar to other offical ygo games. I can respect trying to go for more in-depth mechanics to start, just make sure you learn how it actually works.
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>>86147955
"Which Yugioh character?" is that is what I keep asking whenever I get a new field center with my boosters. Konami never seems to put cards I actually care or know about on them despite the packs having shit like Tearlaments or Dinomorphias.
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>>86146268
Go to your LGS and find out if they run Edison Format tournaments.
Edison is a good middleground between the version of the game you remember and the modern game, so it'll help you adjust to it.
And its pretty cheap too, because the format is a decade old, a lot of cards have been reprinted several times.
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>>86147313
I tried really hard to like vaylantz since their mechanic of moving through the board is so cool, but yeah they are really bad. Their most competent build focuses on crapping out generic links and paying fucking 6k lp to get the beyond the pendulum and cyberstein effects, just to lose to a single dark ruler no more next turn. I tried running them pure without the beyond the pendulum since I can't find one and at best you can go through your entire hand and end on 1 form of interruption with the fusion monster.
Also yeah, this deck is not for beginners at all. I would say mekk-knights are a good beginner friendly deck. You can go the more combo/control route but at their simplest they are just big monsters that hit hard.
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>>86146268
Depends on how you want to play since there's a lot of dirt cheap off-meta decks. A good start would be picking up 3 copies of the Albaz Strike deck if you don't care and just want to get back into the game, Virtual World and Predaplant are also relatively cheap if you want a Synchro/XYZ and Fusion deck respectively.
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>>86148141
Using the board as an actual board that matters is something I really enjoy. Link arrows and stuff like S-Force and Mekk-Knights were really cool too but Valyantz is the worst out of the board gimmicks. It's one of those decks that sucks on purpose too since if it were good there'd be a massive complexity and time rules problem.
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>>86147955
UGH
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Yu-Gi-Oh is extremely inaccessible for new players. If this doesn't change soon it probably won't get enough new blood to survive. It seems like Konami noticed this too and instead of trying to fix it, they just decided to go all in on Rush. I honestly won't be surprised if they pull the plug on the original game in a few years.
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>>86149744
Duel Links was a good way to get new players invested in the game but they decided to push it aside for master duel. It would be nice if there were some cross compatibility between the clients so that you could use DL cards in Master Duel and vise versa so you have a reason to actually play DL, maybe a speed duel format in MD so that you can easily transition between both clients
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>>86149744
>Yu-Gi-Oh is extremely inaccessible for new players. If this doesn't change soon it probably won't get enough new blood to survive
Says this when YUGIOH has the stongest casual scene and blacks are able to understand the rules despite their very lacking mental capasities.
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>>86150043
>race baiting about niggers being stupid
>so dumb that autocorrect can't even help them
many such cases
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>>86150477
4chan's average IQ is probably 80 or lower, anon. Give him a break.
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>>86150477
It could be that they're one.
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>>86147294
There's still a player base there, even on the secondary platform that is Steam here's still nearly 4k right now so the primary platforms of Android/IPhone are probably still going strong.

I actually unironically love the way Duel Links does their banlists with the Limit 1/2/3 meaning you can have any of the cards on it but only up to that number. Ex. Charge of the Light Brigade and Gold Sarcophagus are Limit 2, so you can have 2 Charge, 1 Charge and 1 Gold Sarc, or 2 Gold Sarc.

It has meta decks get restricted in the number of staples they can run, while letting lower power decks run the strong staples to catch up. Think you could import it to the TCG with a Limit 4 and maybe a Limit 5.
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>>86149744
It's only inaccessible because we only run 1 high power format. If we get a decent amount of historic formats popular, we won't have that problem.
We almost have a template, really. If you go:
>Goat
>Edison (Introduce Synchro)
>HAT (Introduce XYZ)
>??? (Introduce Pend)
>TOSS (Introduce Link)
>Modern
You can catch people up with the steadily increasing speed and complexity. Need to figure out a good Pend format but once we do, we just need to get these decently popular. After all, while able to be used as tools to introduce people, these formats are REALLY nice on their own.
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>Just want to make a decent deck out of the D/D structure decks I bought years ago so I can play some casual YGO with my friends who play off-meta but still decent decks
>Even "budget" decks run multiple stacks of cards that cost a minimum of 5 eurobucks
Fuck K*nami man, I wish people just started blatantly printing cards just to piss off those greedy cunts
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>>86150932
It would be interesting to see Konami handle a mix between Master Rule and Speed Duel at a tournament
>4000LP with burn damage halved across the board (this is a thing)
>20-30 card decks. For the most part this just means they'll be more consistent main decks
>5 card extra decks mean that you can't just spam every toolkit monster and have to take into consideration what you're running
>5 card hand size, 4 card starting hands
>No MP2
>Un-negatable player abilities
>Speed Duel banlist rules. 1 limited, 2 semi-limited, 3 semi-semi-limited rules

>Normal card pool allowed, albeit with some limits and bans to keep things in-check
>Particularly, a range ban on cards that mill your opponent's deck
>Board accommodates Pendulum Scales and EMZs

It's a pipe dream, but it would be cool to see it in action. The closest we get to that is DL edging towards the link era.
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>>86150992
Most D/D/D cards cap off at 3 freedombucks tops. What in the world are you buying?
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>>86150992
A lot of those cards are probably metagame staples that flow between decks.

Yes, that's a cope, but my playset of ash blossom goes in almost every deck (maybe not this format idk lol)
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>>86151309
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>>86149744
Casuals don't care for the game being more accessable. All they care about is the next DM, BE or Heroes nostalgia pander product. Just look at how duel devastator flopped despite being a great product to make the game more accessable to a casual audience.
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>>86151743
It's not about products, it's about how the game is bloated with overly technical nonsense
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>>86151339
holy!
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>>86151790
>Technical nonsense
Such as?
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>>86151949
Anon thinks most people are too stupid to learn how the chain works or how to use the 4 extra deck summons
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>>86152335
to be fair
missing the timing is retarded nonsense
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>>86152355
It could be more intuitive.
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>>86150818
I think they should add an option to ban cards being used together. A lot of cards are on the list not because of inherent power, but because of a busted interaction with another specific card. So instead of "X is forbidden" you'd have "X is forbidden in decks that have Y".
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>>86152355

This and the fact that like half the effects that make you select a card don't actually target the card, and things like activation of a card and activation of an EFFECT of the card being different things, and the difference between soft and hard once-per-turns, and so on. A lot of stuff in Yugioh could and should be streamlined to eliminate these weird corner cases.
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>>86151339
Hey I use the same sleeves for my Gagaga Girl binder
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>>86152355
If they reprinted them to be ifs instead of when the world will be a better place, damn I want to use Peten the clown for some fun stuff

Hot red dragon archifiend king calamity can stay a when though, it's actually funny to see him miss timing
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All whens should be ifs
All soft once per turns should be hard
Anything where you choose a card or a token should target it whether it says so or not
Ultimate slayer should not prevent a Mirrorjade nuke from triggering
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>>86153380
>All soft once per turns should be hard
No.
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>>86151743
Did it really flop? I got into the game right as it released and it was great. You could actually get a playset of ash for under ten bucks because of how many people bought the boxes.
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>>86152355
MTT is basically a relic of a bygone era at this point. Even White Stone of Legends has been errata'd to read If- instead of When- to clear up most of that confusion, which is the card they point to when differentiation between "mandatory When- vs optional When-" in the manual. Only a small number are capable of missing timing these days, and it's for shit that makes sense like when an ash blossom gets chainblocked.
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took this list to locals last night, did pretty alright with it all things considering.

I was wondering which way to take the deck though, Should I trim it down to like 43 cards, or push it to 50 and run more hand traps?

I wasn't running 3 ash because I was waiting for the last couple to come in the mail and I have them now and I'm trying to figure out what to do with the deck now
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>>86154937
Push it to 50, play heavy going second cards in the main like Lava Golem. Hand traps kind of blow.
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>>86154964
You don't like Ash or Crow in the main?
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>>86154937
The more cards you play, the worse your Tear mills get.
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>>86151743
Duel Devastator flopped because it was cheaper to just buy the singles you wanted.
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>>86152897
>like half the effects that make you select a card don't actually target the card
That used to be more of a problem way back in the day before PSCT. Nowadays if it doesn't say target, it doesn't target and allows the effect to bypass targeting protection.

>and things like activation of a card and activation of an EFFECT of the card being different things
That can be a pain in the ass.

>and the difference between soft and hard once-per-turns
That one's fairly easy to understand, but I could see people having a problem with them both existing. I don't agree with it, but I could see it.
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Planning to make a proxy Tyler the great warrior but there is no good set off it online so I'm doing it myself. How does this face look?
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>>86155385
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>>86155385
For a proxy it'd be okay but you'll probably want to sharpen the linework and re-balance the weight of your lines a bit. The harsh blacks on the hair in particular, assuming you aren't just doing it with a filter.
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>>86155423
Havent done the hair or anything yet but the face is probably the most important part. Used some AI stuff to help then touching up manually. This was the face just after the AI which helps but needs lots of touching up with it being so low res.
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>>86154971
Crow maybe. Ash is still good against rogue or locals metas but if your opponent is playing Spright or Tear good luck. Personally I like playing Branded Tear as a hard going second deck since you have the ability to sack off a Havnis fusion for a potential Tragedy search, Tax Dragon fusion, or Dragostapelia chain fusion if you mill another Tear name or Tear+Despia. Both engines are really good together when going second since they both do well with Super Poly and rip through boards on their own. Honestly if you don't have the field spell this is probably the best way to play the deck. If consistency is a problem you can throw in a copy or two of Fusion Deployment.
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>>86155234
>That used to be more of a problem way back in the day before PSCT. Nowadays if it doesn't say target, it doesn't target and allows the effect to bypass targeting protection.
What he meant is that it's retard to have effects that select cards but don't technically target.
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>>86155536
We need SOMETHING to get around targeting protection at a lower power level than full board wipes, and cards like Fissure don't cut it anymore.
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>>86155385
Is there not just a good quality image of it on YGOPRODECK?
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>>86154996
Yeah its why my ratios are so high, if i can bring down the count i'd run less merli

>>86155451
So you say just keep dark ruler and go all in on going second? Is Ash really that bad into sprights? I know tears is hard to ash
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>>86155747
no https://ygoprodeck.com/card/tyler-the-great-warrior-5779
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>>86154937
Honestly, If you run lava golem+super poly and DRNM in main deck, you didnt have to worry about HT. Just break their board and thats it. Maybe run 3x Nibiru because is a good HT against majority of the deck in general.
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>>86154937
Also:
-1 mirrorjade or Albion or Kitkallos
+1 alba-lenatus to search instant fusion/fuck with dragon link
I also advice you to add 1x branded banishment, this card is fucking insane, won me many games.
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>>86156492
Hmm...that's a solid idea. I might have to try that.
It does have the potential to ignore a TON of game boards since your strat goes so wide and has multiple lines, going first its really easy to hit a mirrorjade + kaleido + another fusion or two depending on what you hit

>>86156539
I've thought about it but I'm not huge on alba-lenatus. I think it's extremely mid.

I'm already thinking this:
-1 Tears Metanoise
-1 Merli
-1 poly

But is that too much?
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>>86156812
I run 1x poly, 1x Sulliek, 3x Merli and 1x Reinoheart. I don't really like metanoise.
>I've thought about it but I'm not huge on alba-lenatus.
Neither me, but its a good way to get instant fusion or even a poly.
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>>86156862
You don't like 2 reino? why is that?
And I'm getting 1 copy of the field spell soon and I have a terraforming, so it should help out a tiny bit
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>>86155753
I mostly adapted from Chris Lofton's hard going second list with Lava Golem taking the Droplet slot. x1 Sulliek, x1 Reino, x2 King, x1 Poly, no hand traps, no Banishment, no Dramaturge.
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>>86157007
>You don't like 2 reino? why is that?
I already run 3x king of the swamp who do his job for fusions and etc.
>And I'm getting 1 copy of the field spell soon and I have a terraforming, so it should help out a tiny bit
I don't have the field, but I tried it in the EDOPRO and I can say that make a huge difference since you can pop your own tearlaments to activate their effects aswell.
Some people are running that new crystal beast trap from 2022 tin + crystal beast emerald tortoise to search the field, plus the monster is water... But I havent tried this yet to tell how good is.
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>>86157056
Hmm interested, do you have this list somewhere?

>>86157059
Yeah, I guess king of the swamp is a reino too huh

What does your list look like?
Do you run hand traps?
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>>86152335
They really are
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>>86157104
>Do you run hand traps?
Nope, thinking about run 3x nibiru like I said, but otherwise... Zero. My current list, got top 1 in my local today.
Played against:
vs Rikka Sunavalon (2-0)
vs Labrynth (2-0)
vs Marincess (2-0)
vs Spright (2-0)
My local isnt that big, people are still building tearla and other decks.
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>>86157187
I, forgot one card in my side deck. But the only match that they used MM against me, my opponent lose by burn against 2 Masquerade.
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>>86157200
>portuguese card
My bad.
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>>86157104
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VmDtr-d_cI
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welp, its about time I whip out the old all hand trap/floodgate deck with mine and troll some fun decks on nexus
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>>86157458
>nexus
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>>86157458
I mean
>activate branded fusion
>opponent scoops

You don't have to go too deep to make people mad
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>go second
>Lose

WOW SO FUN

anyone who defends this garbage game is mentally ill
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>>86158161
What deck were you playing
What hand traps are you running
blah blah
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>>86158169
Branded Despia on Master Duel
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>>86158161
Cool, then leave. We don't want little bitches like you around.
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>>86158428
>No rebuttal cause he can't defend his shit game

Typical yugibrainlet response
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>>86157458
>nexus
glhf anon. meanwhile i've been thinking of dusting off the old knuckledusters and winning some fights ad my local prescool
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>>86158282
>play deck that loses to two interrupts
>HOW COULD I LOSE
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>>86157187
>Snow
>No Curious
I like your bravery anon
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>>86158780
not necessary when Branded Fusion can send Snow and prevents link summoning.
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>>86158493
If you want an actual suggestion to your shit bait.
Deckbuild better. Play more board breaker tools or handtraps. 9-12 slots in your deck should consist of these types of cards. My personal recommendation for branded despia would be:
3x maxx c
3x nibiru
3x ash
3x droplet/LS
Nib is a decent material as well in a pinch. Branded in red gives the deck enough recovery to handle using nib or droplet later in a game making them a bit more live.

Of course you're probably a non-player and baiting so none of this means anything, but maybe someone who does play will take the advice.
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>>86159731
you seem smart
What hand traps should I slot into D/D/D? I keep worrying about getting too many cards out of archetype.
TCG, not master duel
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>>86158780
My deck is almost all pure fusion, I don't like the tearla danger! honestly, feels kinda boring.
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>>86159772
I'm not as well versed in DDD but if I had to make recommendations
3x TTT
3x ash
3x droplet
maybe 3x belle
I really wouldn't be relying on handtraps if you're forced to go 2nd. Sorry if this really isn't a lineup of hand traps you were expecting.
If you're commited to pends a bit harder you really want the draws off of TTT because a pend summon will get you going again.
Excess contracts and monsters you can afford to pitch can be used for droplets to make sure your actual play starter resolves. You can't be afraid to pitch a couple of cards that might seem like a safer extension, making sure your starter resolves, breaking the board, and ending on a less powerful board is better than having your starter hit and you pass.
Belle is on the fence, DDD doesn't quite have the tools to stay in the long game so you'll want whatever's dead to stay dead or to protect your GY for necroslime plays if you need followup. It's also a pretty good interrupt against many combo decks.
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>wake up
>no banlist
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>>86159731
>Bro just use these cards that everyone automatically includes in their deck because deckbuilding in this game takes 0 thought
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>>86122877
Kind of. Bakura could do it at will because he wasn't a fair fighter, but Atem did it only after a game. Whether he could or couldn't who knows. In the manga it's better explained. It was tied to the games of darkness (shadow games in the anime dub) and it often correlated to their personality. Ushio (Trudge from 5D's but from the original manga) saw trash as money because he was greedy. Another guy from the manga, who was a singer, got his ears booming for obvious reasons. An escaped prisoner was actually burnt to death.
There's others, like Shadi, or fake ones like Kaiba and later in the ZeXaL manga.
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>>86160620
>handtraps universally fit in all decks
>ignoring all the text that anon wrote about the ~10 cards that most main decks can afford to allocate to out-of-engine/archetype cards
retard detected
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>>86160910
>wasting time and words with a retarded bait
You're better than that.
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>>86123356
Honestly, not a fan of Edison. I'd prefer GOAT+. Basically modern with no archetypes or archetype support released after 06. Which does remove most playables, but has enough generics that it works.
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level 4 zombie synchro when
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>>86126282
Can you post an example of a upgraded branded despia without chimera using predaplant? I got 3x albaz strike for the reprints and a bunch of extra cards from the tins from a friend. I've spent under 50 so far and have 3 super poly and targets (except dragos and mud dragon which I'm buying).

Trying to build a fun budget deck besides me hero deck (full power cost 100 but still missing ash blossom)
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>>86161111
NTA but here's the branded predaplant build I use. It's a fragile setup with a lot of explosive power, though Branded takes a backseat here in favor of the Predaplant stuff. Not quite what you requested, but still pretty fun>>86126435


https://yugiohdeck.github.io/#hlSC0Q/+YtDRuZ6rZvh6oZedOtHcxVPKLMeLX3cbllnskY4qVvNK7B8VWKeBd4zBS+69UnZB4mUgi1O6xGgcJ9RLjSHzNqpxlTusRoA=;MM076/PMN2YVIOMK0y1mhxL8w0RMSVDPO8ndOLpOmfxtnkmxaQomIg==;Rn0sEbWIaF59UtV66kV2hSBN3MMrLU7rEaA=:predabrand%20v3

>Summon Ambulomelides, either manually or via Instant Fusion
>Search Bufolicula, Triantis, or Chlamydosundew off of Ambulo's effect, depending on what you need
>Summon Scorpio if you need more materials on the field or Cobra if you don't
>Search Superpoly or Predaprime off of Cobra, whichever you need. Alternatively search Branded Fusion if you haven't already used it
>Bufo and Triantis pendulum summon Chlamy
>Fusion Summon Dragostapelia or Triphyoverutum depending on what your opponent is running, Dragostapelia is a spot negate that can also shut down Synchro/XYZ decks pretty easily, while Triphy can negate Synchro/XYZ/Link summons (and CONTACT fusions, not fusion by card effect)
>At some point, Byblisp gets dumped, and performs the same search as Ambulo

>Branded Fusion is a strong starter for this setup since you can dump Byblisp to search any Predaplant card you need to extend. He's also the last 2500 ATK you need to consistently bring Triphyoverutum to 11,000 ATK using your own monsters' statlines
>Staysailor Romarin can optionally be included for a Branded Fusion summon into Albion, after which point Romarin dumps Byblisp, but you can also just use Lubellion instead
>Be careful with using UltraPoly since if you use Triantis' effect, the pendulum scales used as fusion material go to the ED and it won't be able to revive them

>>86126435
Also I posted a price breakdown earlier in the thread. Removing the side deck brings it down further.
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>>86161303
Also it's not even really optimized as a branded predaplant deck, but it's still nice for what it is-- a fusion spam deck that can shit out multiple bosses through multiple negates and OTK your opponent if you catch them sleeping. Just try not to over-extend in the event you get cucked with a raigeki-like effect (I'm still trying to find a way to protect my plants)
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>>86160031
Facts

>>86158780
>>86157187
I think the deck is better than most people give it credit for, the fact you can just play out through most disruption is insane in the meta, and you have disgusting board states if you do happen to not get into any

I tried asking a yugioh discord help for my deck and they just kept saying that since It's not pure tears with danger, the list was retarded.

Even though branded tears has some representation in the meta, I think people are just afraid of trying anything slightly different in yugioh
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>>86161799
>I think people are just afraid of trying anything slightly different in yugioh
It's more like YGO is too complicated for the vast majority of people to create decks or think criticially about decks so they rely on what the actually smart players think/do.
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>>86126282
As someone just getting into the game, the branded despia deck has been around for several months and I am worried that it will be less optimal as time passes. Is it still wise to get this deck now?
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https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/list_10-03-2022/index.html
Ban list out
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>>86162030
It's still entirely capable of winning games. Especially at a locals level. It's a very strong deck.
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>>86162037
Welcome back old friend.
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>>86162037
>no mystic mine ban
Its a fucking joke.
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hi yugioh people i happened to unbox a bewd ghost rare yesterday how much should I sell it for? Its in mint unpacked with sterilised hands and imediately put ina sleeve and the sleeve in a book, it seems that centering isnt perfect, so how much?
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>>86161799
Just gotta disregard the naysayers. I run Tearlament/Witchcrafter and it's a pretty solid deck on its own, but others will suggest copying a netdeck to get the witchcrafters out when that defeats the purpose of building it that way.

>>86162005
This as well. Some people are just extremely stupid and wonder why you aren't copying the meta decks. They think you're asking "how do I win" instead of critiquing a deck's general gameplan.
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>>86162037
>Snow banned
>Red Reboot banned
>Appointer limited??
>Mystic Mine still completely untouched

Why do they keep doing this?
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CYBER JAR UNBANNED
MYSTIC MINE NOT EVEN LIMITED

AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
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LMAO at your clown format

Feels good playing OCG only
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>Red Reboot banned
>Mine unlimited

Okay, time to abuse the shit out of this
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>>86162098
Nobody cares about centering unless you are getting it graded
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>>86162229
>>86162248
LMAO
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How much is a mystic mine deck?
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>>86162037
>>86162070
>Cyber Jar back at 1
>Substitoad back at 1
Where did the time go? It almost feels like we'll see cards like Mirage of Nightmare or Dimension Fusion out soon.
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>It's another episode of TCG sucks ass compared to OCG
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>>86162401
where do you even play ocg?
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>>86162324
Like 50 eurodollars max
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>>86162408
Everywhere in asia
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>>86162037
Is a hit to Snow and Ronintoadin enough to power down Spright and Tear?
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Well now I know Mine gonna win YCS Utrecht 100%
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>>86162401
Why do Tranny Card Game apologist seethe so mad at the roaches when they have it worse with the cave?
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>>86162510
spright will definitely have to reorganize heavily, while tear loses a bit of ceiling but keeps its structural integrity. now curious->gryphon will just grab eradicator and they will call it a day. I personally expect tear to absolutely dominate everything until the next banlist
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can I use Italian cards in the English tcg?
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>>86162734
Yes
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>>86162734
TCG cards printed in English, French, Italian, German, Spanish and Portuguese can be played in any TCG territory.
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>>86162745
>>86162748
okay cool, hopefully no one at my locals gives me shit
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I am so fucking done with this fucking format.
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>>86162760
You still have to translate cards if you're playing outside of Italy for your opponent by printing out it's effects and stats in English
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mine bros, we won!
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CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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Poor Toad got the fishborg blaster treatment, fantastic in many casual decks but broken by one deck
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>Mine still at 3
Imagine playing Trading Clown Game lmao
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>>86162761
>>86162933
>>86162967
I'm officially done with this garbage game.
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>>86162005
>>86162138
Yep I hear you, makes it hard to get criticism on your deck because the mouth breathers out there just say to add dangers blah blah

Surprised dangers didnt get banned.
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NOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY DIFFERENTLY!!!! I DON'T WANT TO SIDE DECK NOOOOOOO
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CoreTCG better fucking fufill my order and not refund me!
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>>86162037
Snow - Deserved and expected
Ronintoad - A body double hit. Spright will cope I'm sure
Halq - Long overdue, fuck this little nigger
Chaos Ruler - Deserved, kind of surprised but glad it went straight to 0 and not something stupid like 1
Reboot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkQExuzL_0
Cyber Jar - Based will do nothing
Halq's victims - Fair enough, it's hard to understand that they aren't as ridiculous now that he's gone
Substitoad - Frog FTK is probably not doing anything now, I'm sure someone is going to cook up something diabolical involving this little guy and the new morphtronics
Judgement - Oh no, not Jowgen pass! I will certainly not eat my words on this.
Appointer - Is this a Kshatri pre-hit? Are people even running this? Genuinely confused
Dinomight Knight - A shill unhit, fuck true Dracos by the way
Benten - Stop doing this Konami, please
Shooting Riser - Why was this even ever at 1? Konami you cowards.
FD and Nadir- Whatever
Light Stage - Will people run this now? I hope not
Wall - I think this was on here because of some kind of pseudo-FTK, I doubt it's going to make many waves
Overall 0/10 Mine still unhit (Honestly though it's not that bad, I never expected Tears/Sprights to be hit by now. Hopefully we aren't waiting so long for the next one)
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>>86163201
>Appointer - Is this a Kshatri pre-hit? Are people even running this? Genuinely confused
The Ariseheart attach any banned card. So you can set apointer, ban any card in your opponent hands and attach is to him. If I'm not wrong.
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Oh yeah baby

It's gamer time
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>>86140530
>>86139787
what anime/character is this?
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my frog monarchs are dead and you are laughing
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>>86163223
>No snow
>No ronin
>No red Reboot
>No halq


Mine and Eldlich players gonna have a field day with this one
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>>86162098
Look at TCGplayer (western) or Cardmarket (EU) for the current prices. If you don't know about these sites you better get really comfy with them really quick because they're the top 2 global sites for TCG stuff.
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>>86163247
What year do you think you're in timetraveller?
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>>86163367
I actually had a somewhat viable modern frog monarch deck which mostly just worked by playing x3 sphere ra and x3 majesties fiend. frogs did not deserve this but I suppose it was unavoidable.
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>>86163028
Good. Popularity momentum has carried this garbage game for too fucking long.
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Make a new thread
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>>86163201
>I never expected Tears/Sprights to be hit

Just spright was hit, tear is still tier zero.
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>>86163233
That's Hideri Kanzaki from Blend S. He is a boy - not a tranny. A very cute boy.
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Any chance that Konami stops being cowards?
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>>86164064
this and self destruct button are the least likely unbans ever, they are banned for ruining paper tournament play going to time not power
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JUST DRAW THE OUT BRO
HOW HARD CAN IT BE?
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>mine untouched
And this week I was planning to stop playing stunshit at locals. I guess it's back to cancer, hopefully I don't make too many people give up on the game.
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>>86164317
>>86164317
>>86164317
>>86164317
>>86164317

Abandon ship
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What is the current lost art promotion?
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>>86164454
Benten if I recall
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>>86163702
Danger Tear is dead.
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>>86162037
I don't understand why Chaos Ruler is getting banned now when they just revealed a Chaos synchro archetype in a future main set. Obviously Kshatri-La is the main draw in Photon Hypernova so far but that's still retarded.

I'm still mad about them banning Electrumite ahead of Tactical Masters when the OCG version of the set had a reprint.



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