Badly Painted Models Edition>Worst Berserkershttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/01/the-leagues-of-votann-let-loose-the-augmented-fury-of-the-cthonian-berserks/>Midget Lorehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/28/lore-of-the-votann-who-are-the-guilds/>Pre Ordershttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/23/saturday-pre-orders-chaos-reinforcements-heavyweight-weapons-and-mcfarlane-action-figures/>Black Libraryhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/23/black-library-pre-orders-dante-goes-toe-to-talon-with-tyranids-in-the-devastation-of-baal/>Chaotic Comboshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/22/five-combos-to-make-your-chaos-characters-worthy-of-the-gods-attention/>FAQshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/04/your-questions-are-answered-in-the-latest-faqs-and-errata-for-warhammer-40000/>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs>Tools to Improve Battlescribe Readability:https://buttscri.be/40k.phphttps://rweyrauch.github.io/PrettyScribe/>/40kg/ Rules PDF mega:rebrand(dot)ly(slash)40kpdfmegas>Previous Thread:>>85524219>Thread Question:What's the worst paint job you've seen?
>>85541651What would be a good source of spikes?
>>85541651The Hellbrute is a weird kit. At the same time I hate the concept since they changed the iconic dreadnaught with a chaos twist into just an overgrown obliterator. However, I quite like the execution, since the kit is nice, good looking and has plenty of options.
>>85541695getting a pet hedgehog?
>Tau meant to be the mecha army >Empire keeps getting better mecha than them
>ghaz joins the tauHow does your army respond? How well does your warlord face off against ghaz?
>>85541733Does this mean the Tau get auxiliaries?
>In 8th edition, everything can wound everything!>Alright, well, our weapons now have more AP to kill easier>Alright, well, we're getting more wounds!>Alright, well, we're going to give more multi-damage weapons to everything!>Alright, well, we're reducing the wounds you take from each weapon!>Alright, well, we're making it so you can't reduce wounds taken!>Alright, well, we're limiting how many wounds you can do in one turn!>Alright, well, we're going to do more wounds regardless!>Alright, well, we're getting more invulnerable saves!>Alright, well, we're getting weapons that ignore invulnerable saves!>ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GETTING A SPECIAL SAVE THAT'S NOT AN INVULNERABLE SAVE AND CAN'T BE IGNORED!I really hope 10e starts from 0 again. We're getting to 7e bloat.
>>85541741No, they won't be able to be taken in a tau army.
>>85541766Kind of impressive though since 7th edition mess took decades to create. I think strategems have massively contributed to the problems that 9th has, in addition to the strage decision to not have many USR. You know, maybe I should start writing the custom ruleset that I have been building in my head for a while.
>>85541766Don't forget Armour of Contempt AKA>oops too much AP
>>85541695For vehicles, the CSM Rhino is good. That's what I'm using for Traitor Guard.
>>85541766Rumor has it that 10e actually will be a hard reset with indexes.
>>85541733>ghaz joins the tauYou mean Ghaz loots a bunch of kit from the blue gitz.
>talking about 10e when there are still armies without a codex for 9e>space marine codex 2.0 isn't even out yet
>>85541766It went to shit when Games Workshop stopped treating the S3, T3, 1W Guardsman as the baseline. It bloated itself by making the S4, T4, 2W Intercessor their baseline unit and balanced every other faction around that, which just fucked up the past 30 years of game design balance.
>>85541859>there are still armiesguard and chaos daemons are the only ones left, aren't they?
>>85541799I think the main issue with cp is that GW keeps taking half steps. I think if they went to 3cp + 1 per br for 1k and under, 3cp + 1 per turn for over 1k, that would be a pretty good solution save for just axing stratagems, which I don't think GW wants to do.
>>85541845What's the source on this shit rumour? I haven't seen a single reason to believe it. "Some anon idly speculated on /40kg/ 3 weeks ago" isn't good enough.>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
>>85541891I think if we go back to 3 simultaneous indexes, marines being t4 w2 can be fine. The issue is waiting years for a codex such a massive change gets made.
>>85541896Possibly, not sure when World Eaters and squats will be getting theirs, it was implied by gw that squats would be released for 9E.
>>85541651I’ll post OP’s model for him.
>>85541968I don't understand why a hard reset is unbelievable. There is so much rule bloat, supplements and errata that it's obviously the right choice. That being said, it's obviously GW's fault that it turned out like this.
>gee daemons how come gw lets you have two saves?https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/two-saves-are-better-than-one-for-the-horrific-hordes-in-codex-chaos-daemons/
>>85541651I really love badly painted models. Take your pic, there are tens of thousands of figures that look like the bottom, boring, cookie-cutter. But only one Full Retard Space Marine like the top. He's got charm, he's got character, he is Subject to Stupidity. Quite seriously, I genuinely love that aspect of the hobby, the badly painted figures by 12 year olds with Testors, legendary
Do auras affect units in open-topped transports? Can my Archon give reroll 1s to hit to Warriors that are sitting in a Raider? For that matter, is a unit's aura turned off when they embark?
>>85542104no.yes.Embarked units are not treated as being on the field, unless the rule/reroll SPECIFICALLY says otherwise.
>>85542001It's also a motivating factor since you really don't want this retard marine to kill your army
>>85542113Thanks, I'm just trying to preempt any rules questions before I finish my force. My current armies either don't have auras or they don't have transports.
>>85542146worth noting, some drukhari stuff SPECIFICALLY has rules or exceptions, so you'll have to read the codex.
>>85541845... at first. they're sure to bring back the 3-5 year broken codex cycle. only difference will be this time they'll want $70 USD per OP book instead of $40. I am so tired of it. I absolutely don't want to go through it all over again for a fourth time
What are you supposed to run these as? A farseer skyrunner or something?
Help my brain is telling me to start collecting Votaan because I'm retarded and have to play dwarves in any game I'm able to. It's also trying to pull me to Sisters and Night Lords, what's your opinion? I play GSC currently if that makes any difference
>>85542515>It's also trying to pull me to SistersSisters of silence are nice but it annoys me that they only have one kit, they also need an extra HQ choice.
>>85542515I've always been contrarian when it comes to picking characters in fighting games. I'd probably play Votann just because it seems trendy to hate on them
>>85542528I meant nuns with guns, sisters of silence are rad but I hate custodes with all the gold and overall elite nature of the army
So I want a lgbt loyalist legion and lgbt traitor legion. I guess I should start collecting dark angels and emperor's children?
>>85542556Neither, you should kill yourself.
>>85542556Neither, marines don't fuck
>>85542515If you need to play dwarves, just do any firstborn marine army lmao
>>85542555>I hate custodesThey hate you too.
>>85542501Third party garbage.
>>85542555I don't like the gold thing either but it somehow seems weird to paint them any other way
>>85542561>t. dark angels player
>>85542561the dude doesn't really want to collect DA or EC. he just wants to collect (You)s
Is this box any good for 40k? My flgs has one in stock. I'm thinking of buying one of each start collecting demons box. Is this a good idea?
>>85542600not any more. rumor is you won't want to run any more than one or two demon factions at a time once the codex comes out
>>85542600>>85542619wasn't talking about the box btw. the box isn't bad. just the getting one of each. I'd pick your favorite two
>playing my deathskullz vs my buddies death guard>managed to kill his chaos lord with a single grotThe weak should fear the strong
New possessed minis?
>>85542697would be nice
Made a test dude for heresy death guard. Think it turned out pretty good.What are you guys doing this weekend?
What army could I proxy combat with an awakened Men of Iron silo? Admech, with Imperial Knight? I plan on duplicating the Blackstone Fortress fella.
>>85541651>>Thread Question:>What's the worst paint job you've seen?Mine back in the day before in knew what thinning paint was
>>85542692>things that never happened for $200
>>85542886>>85542891Very nice, it has that feeling of a good car in desperate need of a hosing down.
>>85541733>>85541846People don't understand that the Orkz are actually just an extension of the Eldar and as such effectively Tau auxiliaries.How do the T'au always seem to be mercilessly spared from complete extinction? Because whenever forces are manifested to accomplish that task the Eldar begin running crippling raids and baiting Ork waaghs into the path of the forces. The entire "power" of the Eldar comes from their ability of precognition and being able to influence wider campaigns to serve their needs. Unfortunately this isn't possible to adequately represented in normal games of 40k.
>leadership goes downAlso I thought they would have gotten more attacks.
>>85543189Same, especially with the leaker saying that units are going to have a lower unit cap. I was hoping they would at least have as many as a basic chaos marine
>>85543052I'm in need of a 'hosing down' if you know what I mean ;)
>>85543231Do you often let strange men piss on you?
>>85543189God that model is showing its age
>>85543291forgive me anon for i have sinned.I bought more unpainted models on ebay whilst having a long backlog
whats a fun theme for a custom guard regiment?
>>85543291I don't paint my models.
>>85543342how is that any different from cadians?
>>85541766What's the point of playing a new edition when you know it (intentionally) just ends up like this?
>>85543378GW needs to end time 40K so we can get a kino living community run ruleset
>>85543052Thanks anon! That is kind of the level of dirt I aimed for. Dont want to go 40k death guard level of grime
>>85543355Use valkyries to transport them and have them specialise in fighting tyranids, add nid skulls to your characters as trophies.
>>85542886>>85542891It look quite good.This weekend I'm starting offour Rogue Trader-campaign.>Forever GM.jpg
>>85543378BasedPlaying anything past 5e at most is willingly hurting yourself
Chaos Daemons?Yes. It's fact.
>>85543490This is just avatarfagging at this point.
>>85541994Pink Horror getting the same 3+ save against an autopistol and a railgun
>>85543498Shut the fuck up
>>85543317What's wrong with it?
>>85543189Rumours say the Herald puts their leadership to 7 so not much has changed
>>85543500I feel like Tzeentch is set for absolute fuckery with pink horrors having a save that good against shooting>>85543512Do we know if greater daemons will get a different aura then?
>>85543512Heralds aren't in the codex anymore
>>85543332Napoleonic French in space, kitbash with some cheap historicals. You're welcome.
>>85543543Yah, yah, they have a bunch of dumb copyrightable names now and most people, daemons players included, get confused on which fucker is what by name
>>85543498>it couldn't possibly be multiple peopleWould you say it's beyond belief?
>>85543558Knowing the kind of autist that hangs out here, I find the possibility of it being a single anon very high. We had many such forced meme attempts.
>>85542886Nice model, here's mine.Nothing hobby related from me, It's way too hot to sit at a desk for too long
>balance entire book around limitation of 1 greater daemon>remove limitation last minute without playtesting
My army is mostly done. Post armies.
>>85543579Welcome to Chaos, I see you're new.
>>85543581Cool russkies, anon.
>>85543567>"No, it's impossible for more than 1 person to like a meme."
>>85543526>I feel like Tzeentch is set for absolute fuckery with pink horrors having a save that good against shooting>T3, goes down to 6+ save in close combatI found the Tau player
>>85542886No real plans for this weekend, but I did finish guy yesterday.
>>85543291I believe space rhino-walruses would be a good tau auxiliary because they're so space marine that they could fill the big armor dude niche for tau.
>>85543498>Can more than one guy can like a meme?
>>85543586I mean, it's trivially easy to look up that file in an archive and see that you always post it in the same time range, with the same filename.
>>85543393Yeah, you have to be careful to make it dingy without going overboard and still making them recognizable as Death Guard at a quick glance. Deploy your dudes and play them with pride, you did a good job.
>>85543291When people tell me to post my minis, I post other people's minis. I'm to shy to post any of my own.
>>85543619What's the worst that can happen? They tell the whole city how they don't like your paintjob?>Breaking News>Mayor makes statement: Anon's mini's suck>Town Hall erupts in mocking laughter
Would you kiss Duncan Rhodes?
>>85543624Nta, but I've posted my stuff, but I was a bit shy about it at first as well.Now I post without worry.
>>85543625No, but I would offer him a firm handshake
First time working with green stuff, turned out better than expected
>>85543291i have a massive crush on the store twink at my LGS and want to split him openspace marines
>>85542886howd you do the grime? is that the new grimy yellow shade, mortarian something?
Anyone have the Day of Ascension book? I'm getting into GSC and it looks like it'd be an interesting read, but it's out of stock at GW.
>>85543639You did a decent job. Mostly just sharing this pdf to make sure others can use it and learn
>>85543291I think of WAACfagging from time to time, just tired of getting dunked on by bullshit combo
>>85543291I have a box full of built and primed Meganobz and Killa Kanz, and I will never paint them.
>>85543291I cheated while playing LOTR once in 2002.
>>85543291My number 1 reason for being happy about new releases is the inevitable salt they generate. I don't even care if I don't like the release. The tears are enough.
>>85543625No but i'd as him to judge my minis
>>85543677Based, I'm the same.
>>85543680Thank you, anon, I had no idea that existed.
I must be honest, i've spent a solid mont hecking out the 40k forsums on reddit and this general, flawed as it may be, is leagues better than any of them
>>85543689In english doc.
>>85543600>Tau>getting auxiliariesThe only reason I'm not suggesting the Tau become Cabal auxiliaries is because the usurpers got their homeworld blown up.
>>85543677of course you'd think like that when you're a nomodel faggot
>>85543291My life is so boring, dull and lonely that waiting on 40k news is unironically the high point of the week. Hence, why I get so annoyed when GW doesn't give me product to consume
>>85543291I believe that if the Emperor truly wanted to transform humanity into a new psychic race, he should drop a space colony onto Terra and other planets to force everyone to live in space.
>>85543605As the person who started that meme here a few weeks ago, I can say that while I have been posting it every other day, it has been picked up by others.
>>85543709Ok, no models.
>>85543720meant for >>85543709
>>85543291I've made bunch of the female marine edits here because coom.And I am thinking of making more.
>>85542886>What are you guys doing this weekend?Reposing my blood claws so they don't look like ballerinas shooting bolt pistol but charging retards
>>85543291I have yet to use any 40k Fallout 4 mods. It's weird. I see them, I think they look nice, I easily have the means and storage to download them, I just never do. It's that weird thing you always wanted to do but never did and you can't come up with a reason why.
>>85543735>"Damn brother Corvus, how come the chapter master lets you have 3 crux terminatus'?"
Are specialist detachments worth their salt? Because I'm thinking of having a main 1500 pt force with 500-1000 point specialist detachments for all my armies.
>>85543735If I could get F4 for pennies, I'd play it just for 40K power armour mods.
Bring Out Your Lead is this weekend, the premier Oldhammer event.https://www.wargamesfoundry.com/pages/oldhammerSo much cool stuff each year
Threadly reminder that Primaris Marines are fucking shit
>>85543714>SpaceU mean webway? Like he would like to do?Before big red tard didnt ruin all what he planned?
>>85543770Tbh, Magni Magic wouldn't have ruined it if he knew Emps was doing a webway, well probably.This is Magnus after all, arrogance is his middle name and he did definetly inherit that form his father.
>>85543763Those two dudes with canes must have interesting stories about how things used to be better before.
>>85543783>Catachans: the Twilight Years
>>85543783>>85543794isn't the one on the right blanche?
>>85543291While I fully believe that heat based axes are what Squats need, and I am glad they have them, Zeon isn’t even my favorite faction in Gundam. Rather, I just think Zeon has some of the better and most iconic demonstrations along with aesthetics that would suit power armor. On that note, Zakus aren’t even my favorite Zeon mobile suit. Confessing further, I honestly think the UC timeline is too much of a attention hog, even for a “main” timeline. There’s AUs with quality content too that don’t receive a quarter of the attention UC does. It’s not as bad an attention sucking black hole as Space Marines are in 40k but it still leaves some disappointment. How many in this thread expected me to be a full UC fanboy?
>>85543808Yeah, looks like him. Neat.
>>85543291Once a few years back outside /40kg/ I derailed a /tg/ thread that was all about politics. Op wanted to discuss politics so bad that no amount of telling him to fuck off to /pol/ would work. So rather than ignore it, I flooded the thread with tomboys & enjoyed watching OP rage. It was hilarious.
Where do you guys source your bits? As much as I like using the spare shit from sprues from my older models, it doesn't always net me what I want.
>>85543808>Alan Merret - Tony Yates - Tony Ackland - John Blanche - Brian Ansell there's also rick priestly and nigel stillmanmaybe trash carden too?
>>85543783>>85543794>>85543808>>85543816Yeah, Tony Ackland and John BlancheBonus Round
>>85543763>not a single nigger in sight
>no unification war period>no thunder warrior models>no techno barbarianswhy live?
>>85543845I guess most people get stuff from 3rd party and from bitstores?I personally just make do with whatever bits I have, but I do also just buy all the stuff I need for the kitbash/conversion.At least it is what I did with the techmarine, chaplain, librarian dude I did a while back.
>>85543866Make it your life's goal to create your own.
>>85543291I’ve spent far more time here than I have on tabletop.
So lads.. whats in the box?HARDMODE: No dragon dildos
>>85543291I want to get fucked over a gaming table after losing a match. Unfortunately everyone I know who plays 40k is the manifestation of this board and keeps making Troon jokes. I have to confess that turns me on and makes me want it even more.
>>85543866They would only ruin it.
>>85543887Dog dil- ah god damnit.
What's a good theme for an inquisition army?
>>85543866I'm fully content with not having those, since I know if GW starts making a full range it also means they are gonna start fucking with the fluff of the Unification Wars and completely ruin it and make it shit.But I wouldn't mind to see a re-release of the "armor throughout the ages", and all of them are properly scaled, would be pretty fun.But currently, in my opinion best option to do is basically to use stormcasts, for the lightning bolts iconography and then use the primaris shins but shave off all the unnecessary bits on them, like the knee flare and ankle spheres.And also then use other other space marine bits, like mk3 backpacks, helmet plumes, swords, etc.Also then greenstuff a lot of things, like lightning bolt onto the leg armor and making loincloths/tassets.As for mk1 helmets to make those I've seen people use guard helmets but then add a topknot to it.Basically to make Thunder Warriors is going to be hard.
>>85543887>So lads.. whats in the box?Is it a massive Primaris lieutenant dildo?
>>85543852Britains National Pedophile convention
>>85543899>What's a good theme for an inquisition army?An army that only exists in the rubbish bin while you work on something good.
You were all very close in your guesses, well done.But it was actually 4 Ur-Ghuls, a Lhamaean and 5th edition Succubus / Haemonculus!
>>85543899I've considered doing an inquisition force myself, obviously focused around the inquisitor and their weird entourage. Best I could do was a Sisters of Battle core, with arco-flagellants, sisters-repentia, crusaders, death cult assassins, penitent engines, Officio Assassinorum agents, etc. Basically all the most fanatical weirdos that make the Ministorum so baroque and strange.Maybe I'll do them after I've finished my Traitor Guard.
>>85543291To this day, I have no idea what half the wires coming into people’s bodies in 40k do. I don’t know where every space marine keeps all their ammo, even the pauldrons can’t hold as much ammo as they use.
>>85543899Monty Python Spanish Inquisition
>>85543919That's gayer than if it was dildos
>>85543919The shaft on the spear is a bit bent.Remember to straighten it.
>>85543685>>85543677Hello my fellow Dark Eldar
>>855439315e Succ has delicious tummy on display, your argument is invalid>>85543932In this heat I could probably just leave it in the window for 10 minutes
>>85543941Just look at how much of a downgrade the current sculpt is.Sad.
>>85543899Radical Inquisitors using bio-weapons and intentionally created mutants.
>>85543899exaxtly what nobody expects jokaero aided time travelers and classic space operas references
>>85543941>>85543945Why is that GW's painters are just incapable of painting faces? Especially female faces.But I have to say the older one (the non charging one) has better abs on the model.We need more of that in 40k.
Some spoilers about Vaults of Terra: The Dark City. It's been a couple weeks so I figure I'd talk about the climax in broad strokes. Don't look at them if you plan to read the book yourself.>after the shitshow in Carrion Throne, the Admech are STILL negotiating with Deldar to repair the Golden Throne>the haemonculus from CT makes a return and gets to chat a good bit with Crowl>apparently they share a fondness for Johann Sebastian Bach>anyway the Deldar angle to the bargain with Admech is to get access to the Throne>the great Dysjunction that struck Commorragh in Gathering Storm is not contained>the Deldar want to build their own Throne to plug the hole (strongly hinted at in their 8e codex)>but for this to work they would need someone, or rather something, to sit on it>and that something would almost certainly be a mindless Azathoth-like meat blob cloned from the Emperor>our heroes do not react well to this completely profane hypothetical>Crowl & Co throw a wrench in this and Crowl ostensibly kills himself and the haemo for good>Spinoza is on the run to warn Terra but it's unclear whether her warning will ever make it to the right ears
>>85543890I once read a VN where two girls played a game of rock paper scissors. The loser eats the winner out.
Did this guy ever come in resin/plastic? Guy at the shop has one, but I thought they were only metal.
>>85544005Man what a cool model and I'm not even a chaosfagIt mogs even the new kit
>>85543996>>the great Dysjunction that struck Commorragh in Gathering Storm is not contained>>the Deldar want to build their own Throne to plug the hole (strongly hinted at in their 8e codex)>>but for this to work they would need someone, or rather something, to sit on it>>and that something would almost certainly be a mindless Azathoth-like meat blob cloned from the Emperor"This can never end badly." :said the Dark Eldar.All that'd for sure create is a chaos corrupted horror entity made from Emp's genes and cause insane fucking problems for everyone not just inside the webway but outside of it as well.Never mind that shit would definetly just open the portal to Commoragh and let daemons invade to skull fuck and rape the Dark Eldar and then damn thing for sure would instantly start running for the human made webway portions and then start banging on the gate the real Emperor is keeping shut, which will cause it to fail for sure.Honestly I'm fucking surprised that the Custodes even allow Mechanicus to deal with the Dark Eldar and letting them get hands on and repairing the damn Golden Throne.And don't tell me that they don't know of it, because if that's the case it just shows that the Custodes deserve to get the Thunder Warrior treatment for failing at their job.And if they do know of it and just let it happen, they still deserve the Thunder Warrior treatment for absolute fucking retards that endangering the Emperor, the Imperium and god damn humanity in the whole process.
>>85544005>Did this guy ever come in resin/plasticNo.
>>85544025>Never mind that shit would definetly just open the portal to CommoraghThere is a portal in Commorragh. It's already open. They are trying to seal it through one of the tried-and-true methods of sealing such portals.
>>85544045And I'm saying that shit will fucking fail. As is the nature in 40k.If a thing can go wrong, it will go wrong. It isn't a matter of if, it is a matter of when it goes wrong.
>>85544005No. The guy has a recast and is trying to pass it off as finecast.
>>85541766>ALRIGHT, WELL, WE'RE GETTING A SPECIAL SAVE THAT'S NOT AN INVULNERABLE SAVE AND CAN'T BE IGNORED!I'm not sure why this is such a complicated and divisive concept for some people, seems pretty simple
>>85542886Very mouldy, very nice.I'm planning on finishing my toxicrene and starting on my 2nd squad of abberents.
>>85544099Because it reeks of schoolyard power dynamics?Its LITERALLY >I have a special forcefield>Well I have a gun that ignores forcefields>Oh well I have a forcefield that ignores thatSounds stupid. Is stupid.
>>85542515Night Lordsjust make sure to play with good dudes so you can use the Legends jump pack Lord option
Jervis turned upFunny how a free community event is probably a million times more based than those £200 Warhammer World "weekenders" consoomers fight over tickets for so they can soiface near the Sigmarine statue.
>>85544114Detecting a little seethe in your tone
>>85544114wish i wasnt a crippled retard so i could go to either of these events desu
>>85544114That's a nice table.
>>85541766This is what prevents me from playing 40k. The rules bloat is worse than it's ever been. It isn't streamlined at all
>>85543763Look at all those nerds.
>>85544125>I don't play but I'm going to make statements on the state of the gamelollmao, even
>>85544117Nah, just funny how GW basically can't get e.g. John Blanche to do anything extra-curricular these days, but he just turns up at BOYL because he wants to be there.https://youtu.be/VgqfUzi8lt4Look how little regard JB has for the podcast host lel. He does not want to be there. He does not want to be in a room with 200 numales and troons asking him which of their favourite primarchs will do a Tik Tok in the last Horus Heresy book. Different worlds.
>>85541845>Rumour has it that 10e actually will be a hard reset with indexes.KeK. I would be raging if I bought Daemons or Militarum at EOL 9th and had less than 6 months of game time with the codex. Or even Voltan - though I'm starting to buy into the idea Voltan are going to be "The 9.5 to 10th ed. tech demo Army" I think the reason the Index reset approach is being touted is that if they are bringing in Reactions from HH there is going to have to be a whole revamp of the mechanical workings of 9th Ed units; as well as having to give give a full breakdown of what Stratagems are now Reactions. I can see Command Points being things you still get from detachment but only apply to pre-battle upgrades to your force such as Warlord Traits, Relics, Unit Upgrades etc. I think this is seen partly in the way they have designed units and splat-books; eg. Berzerkers used to have BFTBG but in the new codex they just straight-up upped their base attacks. You basically get the same thing as before but it's easier to manage and speeds the game up (you aren't rolling twice). Where as in Nephillium matched play the rules force you to spend CP on what were once free upgrades (eg. Warlord Traits) which would probably be expanded out a bit into general USR upgrades for forces.Mind all this is speculation. Knowing GW it will just be a total dumpster fire as they commit their long over due self-inflicted gunshot wound we all expect them to make.
>>85544144>turns up at BOYL because he wants to be there.Of course he does, just a different flavor of cult of personality.
>>85544131>I don't like the game as it stands currently>I have never played the game as it stands currentlyThese statements are not the same
Staggered codex releases is why I've taken to home brew codecies. They are unbalanced, they have poor wording, and are fun as fuck to shoot the shit with mates.
Army for this feel?
>>85544161Its the latter, or you're just a retard.If you actually played the game and felt it was too bloated, it would be complaints about the layers of rules like Docrinas, Synaptic Imperatives, Katahs, etc. "I have higher AP now" or "I have higher wounds now" is not bloat. Seeing a 2 where you used to see a 1 is not bloat.
>>85542117Then takes a 6++ when a Kroot or lucky Firewarrior smacks it.
>>85544167Ecclesiarchy themed GSC?
>>85544168New Synapse rules are cool though, it finally does something and makes people kill your warlord as fast as possible which is fluffy
>>85544188I don't have a problem with them and I think they're good. Just saying if someone's problem with the game is rules bloat, its those. If your problem is higher AP values then that would be powercreep
thoughts on me collecting thousand sons as my 2nd army?my main army is Imperial knights so want something more "conventional" (unit number wise) and something that is loaded with psyhic powers
>>85543844Based, we need more of you.
>>85544203I think I don't give a fuck which armies you collect.
>>85544144>He does not want to be in a room with 200 numales and troons asking him which of their favourite primarchs will do a Tik Tok in the last Horus Heresy bookhahahahahaha
>>85543291I'm so retarded that even with a wet palette I can't manage to thin my paints down to a point where it doesn't leave brush strokes.
>>85543291I keep coming up with crusades, play one game then decide to write another one.This gets worse every time I decide to pick up a new army.
>>85544203sure sounds fun
>>85544215>that picWhat was in the Horus Heresy book that caused all this upset? Was it something like a deliberate insult in maybe a "forward" section before the book begins?
>>85543844>>85544190>>85544208To be fair it doesn't seem to work anymore as people are catching on and seeing the shit as spam. Was fun while it lasted though.
>>85544215>This isn't about us wanting female marines>But we want you to not used gendered language when it comes to marines even though they are all maleI am fucking confused to the point it's hard to put this shit into words.So it's like they are saying they want it to be written as "Space marine aspirants are youths taken from the chapter's homeworld and it is a requirement that he/she is a male to be able to be turned into a space marine."Like it hurts my brain, it makes no sense.How the hell can you have non gender critical language about a process that plain simple just works with one of the sexes/genders.
>>85544252It said only males can be Space Marines, basically.
>>85544259Fucking politics were a mistake, the elections fucked this and every other board for good pretty much.God I just wish that both of the tourist retards would just fuck off to their own corners and stay in them so no one else needs to deal with their retardation.
Chaos lorelet here: What's the process of CSM recruitment like? Surely legions like World Eaters don't have time to grow, train and build up new zerkers every time they need a resupply.
>As far as it could be grasped, orkoid minds seemed capable of believing more than one objective truth at the same time. Indeed, they could hold several entirely contradictory facts in their conscious reckoning at once, and not feel the slightest bit of mental discomfort.Based green brains are stronger than puny 'umie finkin' bits.
>>85544266>It said only males can be Space Marines, basically.That can't be it, right? They can't just do simple female headswaps+homebrew and be happy? They really need a big company's approval for them to use their imagination? And such a small thing has caused so much heartache for them?Seriously if it is true then I hope these people get the help they desperately need.
>>85543317I don't really see anything wrong with it. I've heard the mold lines are pretty bad but that's it.
>>85544287>What's the process of CSM recruitment like?Same as the loyalist ones, but they utilize their own slaves, or just corrupt loyalist marines into chaos marines.Also the Iron Warriors created the Daemonculaba shit that essentially works by taking a male child, then performing a reverse c-section a woman who has all the marine implants in her, and then implant the child into her, where the child grows up to be a full space marine and grows his own organs inside his body and then after that they take him out.And also these culaba marines all miss their skins, so they get a fresh new skinsuit transplanted onto them as a graduation present as well. And yeah the Iron Warriors essentially created "skin farms" to supply it all for the culaba marines.Yeah chaos marines aren't joking around and doing half measures.
>>85544289>Double-think is a strength
>>85544119how are you crippled? I mean looks like there's room for a wheelchair there.
>>85544295I feel this is a bigger problem in the table top community that instead of engaging with the hobby to the point where they customize and use their imagination to make their perfect realized scenario they rely on the big daddy company to give them lore. Now, this can be blamed on the companies themselves but I can't help but see secondaries that expect everything to be given out rather than they take the concept and run wild with it.Reminder: The best 40k stories are ones created by players coming up with their own slice of the galaxy.
>>85544295>That can't be it, right?No it literally is that, that's what broke the camel's back.They want GW to change it to "aspirants for marines can be male or female"
>>85544305That's brutal as fuck and is already giving me ideas on how to paint the skin on my warbands.
>>85544314>Now, this can be blamed on the companies themselves but I can't help but see secondaries that expect everything to be given out rather than they take the concept and run wild with it.>Reminder: The best 40k stories are ones created by players coming up with their own slice of the galaxy.Tbh, I can understand why they'd just want GW to come out and say it because the fact is if you unironically made female marines now and posted them anywhere there are bound to be insane spergs about it.Even if the guy who posts his stuff and had made his own fluff about and for them how they work and why they happened, etc.Autistic spergs would be going full retard and arguing "muh lore" and engaging in bad faith retard arguments, even though like you said 40k is about making your own stuff and making your own slice of the galaxy.It's the reason why I despise the HH and the fags that play it because if you try to do anything different just to have something to have /yourdudes/ they'll make a stink about it screech like apes.The Lost Legions exist for people to make their own legions, but if you try to do that HH autists will just butthurtly say you can't do it because we know nothing about them, even though the whole point is that.
>>85544265You are new to this kind of shit right? Their "problem" is that by saying that only males can become space marines GW is implying that all the penises individuals that become marines also identify as male, which is an outright act of bigotry because it denies the existence of penises individuals that become marine while identifying as Women or anything else.
>>85544334The Heresy era as a whole should've been left as a legend in all honesty. Have key details and events with certain major players be known sure, but leave all the nitty gritty and specifics lost to the aeons of time or as a tight secret within the halls of the inner imperium sanctums. But yeah, hard core fluff defenders are annoying and do make it hard to play with the sandbox that 40k originally was.
>>85544337To be honest the idea that Space Marines would identify themselves as anything but Space Marines is weird.Why would they consider thjings on terms of male/female? They're not even human
>>85544337It is still stupid imo, because isn't the whole point with the trannies and such that they don't want to be even reminded what they are originally?Even if you write as "He/she has to be male to become a marine." It literally still just says "You have to be a *MAN* to become a space marine."
>>85544348It's like these people forget that once a marine, your entire life is now a weapon for the imperium (Or the dark gods if you fall).
>>85541766There's way too much shit purposefully complicating the rules for sure. Every individual system has at least 3 layers of exceptions.For example, just basic damage.Hit, wound, save.The wound roll is complete bloat and should just be rolled into the other two somehow.Huge amounts of mixed damage stats on one model too, making you have to double or triple or sometimes quadruple the numbers of comparisons you have to do. Oh but wait, your squad leader also has a different set of weapons, better roll those separate =^)I'm 100% saying the game needs to get dumbed down a little bit, not for the sake of the intellect but the sake of brevity. I'd like to be able to have a game take 2 hours, or at the very least less than 3.
>>85544348>>85544354Space Marines literally identify as attack helicopters yes, but their problem is more with the aspirants. Again, regardless of what Marines are, by saying that only males can become marines you are basically committing genocide against all the hecking valid trans individuals that will totally pass all the tests for physical and psychological eligibility for becoming a marine.
>>85544348>Why would they consider thjings on terms of male/female? They're not even humanBecause they still are, the whole point with marines is that they are walking contradiction.They are fundamentally speaking still human but they aren't just mere humans.
Once new kasrkin are released how different will they be from scions? I'm guessing their stats will be quite similar.
Why the fuck do so many new players love deathguard? They were never a huge thing back in the day. You saw way more khorne marines but now every other player plays the same deathguard army.
>>85544348Because they are Battle BROTHERSBecause they idolize the EMPEROR who is a MAN ruling the Imperium of MAN
>>85544392They got a starter set in 8th edition.
>>85544392The magazine series that made building a Death Guard army fucking cheap?
How common are Chaos Xenos? I would imagine that there would be a few ayy's the chaos gods would've corrupted.
>>85543291Every once in awhile I make a mistake and either give myself a bonus or a malus that isn't supported by the rules.When it's in my favor I pretend I didn't notice and keep going, when I realize I fucked myself I ask for a do-over or otherwise ask my opponent to cut me some slack.
>>85544392They were the introduction army for 8th edition, a mate of mine started in 8th and he got some starter kit that had a handfull of marines and death guard.
>>85544392>whole new line of great models>poster boys of 8th ed>mortythat's the reason people think 10th is around the corner, because WE seem to go the same way
>>85544314>>85544316I think it's more a problem of autism. They often need things spelled out and once it is it's ironclad.
>>85544392Several reasons>8th edition saturday morning villian. Generally cheap to acquire, and quick to build an army with>New miniatures are fun to paint >Nurgle tends to be the most popular among hobbyists>Massive expansion of models by 8th>Ruleset tends to favour survivability, so it's a less 'skillful' army to play.>'Zombies'
>>85544389I hope with the new better proportioned Krieger and Kasrkin they release a completely new line of Cadians with similar proportions. Do you think old guard players will rage that they have to paint a shit ton of new soldiers or will they celebrate?
>>85544443How many Ork players who have lots of old Boyz have you seen with armies of new Boyz?Should probably answer your question
>>85544443>Thinking Guard players will complain about new shit after over 5 years of no releasesNo. There will be complaints, but not from Guard players.
>>85544445I don't get why GW updated the old boyz kit for a new one if they are going to keep the old one anyway.
>This is my Genestealer-cult-counts-as-necrons armywhat?>What don't you get?Why?>Why not?
>>85544467Whomst are you quoting?
>>85544451Probably because the new kit isn't just monopose but also forces a fixed loadout of what, 3 boys with shootas, 1 nob, and 1 boy with a rokkit launcha or big shoota?
>>85544470The nigga that put two goliaths on the table and said they were Doomsday arks
Does GW do normal articles on Saturday? I want more daemon shit.>Maybe preorder announced sunday?
>>85544451One possibility is that they have such a metric fuckload of boxes of the older Boyz to get rid of, that they're going to keep selling them until it no longer feels like such a huge waste to bin the remainders
>>85544443>Do you think old guard players will rageI hope so.
>>85544451It was probably when people started asking>Can this box make 10 slugga choppas or 10 shootas"No, 3 shootas (and a big Shoota) and the rest are Choppas>So how do I get 10 shoota boyz?"Er... well... buy 3 boxes?">10 Shoota boyz for £90?"Oh... shit..."
>>85544425No, it is literally case of they want female marines and are butthurt that the fluff says all marine aspirants *must be male*.
Is the Boyz box sprue identical to any FOMO box that had Ork Boyz in it, or did they make two versions of the same new design like Battle Sisters or CSM? They got a super-monopose sprue in the Army Box then a less-monopose full release
>>85544309Duh. Imagine having a brain so weak it can only hold one thought at a time, and maybe not even that. Meanwhile superior orkoid brains can effortlessly hold no less than two thoughts at any given time.
>>85544512You can see what the sprues look like on the GW website you knowYes it's the same sprue as the Combat Patrol
The last time I "played" 40k it was 3rd edition and I just had to make an army with a HQ and two troops units.I have no idea what detachments/command points/lord of wars/relics/strategems arewhat the fuck i just want to roll dice and paint models
>>85544443people with a lot of guardsmen will just continue to use the same ones they have.not everyone is an autistic scale fag like you, i use tactical marines with no issue
>>85544215good morning I hate troons
>>85544573Detachments are basically that. Minimum/Maximums of each type. A Patrol is just 1 HQ and 1 Troop Minimum.
>>85544467You know what, fine, sure, whatever. Just hold on a sec>what are you doingJust making my new krieg army, these pieces of paper I just ripped off count as my kriegsman, okay
>>85541651>TQpic related its either this "Finished" hellbrute or the terminators he "doesnt want to use other people's techniuques (aka thinning paints} on
How close are these to your head canon voices?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwxYW-tk8I8
>>85544652Many in that vid are great Khan fits same with Magnus and Vulkan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4ypfvYzFawI liked this one, honestly I think Hugh Jackman fits Russ better, sounds more angry. Also Death from Darksiders fits Morty better.
>>85544467Why would you use an expensive army to substitute a cheap one?
>>85543649Its both mortarian grime buildup and some seraphim sepia
>>85544467This makes me mad because when I want to have one of my battle suit guns count as another I get compared to guys like this.
>>85544443>Do you think old guard players will rage that they have to paint a shit ton of new>soldiers or will they celebrate?A bit of both to be honest.I like 3 boxes of Cadians. And about 4 of pushfit Cadians. I like the idea of my guardsmen being consistent in appearance with each other. So I will be hit with the old good new bad meme. I just hope that the new scale plastic Cadians are just current sculpts with better proportions. But this is GW here and I won't be surprised in the slightest if we get guardsmen models nearly as tall as Primaris marines.
>>85544790>normal ass human is almost the same size as a space marineAnd people still say that the primaris were GW's attempt at "true scale" marines...
>>85544573Detachments are basically the typical force org chart, but also like formations from 7th: you choose one, and you have to obey the unit allotments of it. For example, a vanguard detachment is like a force org where you have to have a minimum of three elites and one HQ. The higher your points level for your game is, the more detachments you're allowed to take, essentially allowing you to have your army built up of multiple little armies. These armies can have their own special rules and whatnot, but that's a whole nother thing.Stratagems and command points are related to another. Remember stratagems from Planet Strike and Apocalypse? They're literally that. But instead of being alloted some by default due to the game type, or purchasing them with points, you purchase them with a new currency, Command Points. Each stratagem has a bunch of different rules as they themselves explain, and each cost a certain amount of command points. How many command points you have at your disposal is determined by how many points you play; the higher the point level the more CP. Lords of war are literally just super heavies and Apocalypse units. Plus girlyman for some reason.Relics are special little items you can give to characters, most often your Warlord(army leader). They are also purchased with CP.In theory, you can just play with two troops and an hq, but all of these have become so interwoven that a lot of units and even armies are subpar without them, or don't even work properly without them. It's bullshit.
>>85543763So many balding people.
>>85544353this. as a male penis-having individual or whatever the latest nuspeak is, I would have been rejected as a marine candidate for not being man enough t. clumsy lanklet
>>85543910No Muslims there mate.
>hating on Bring Out Your Lead, and Warhammer's Old GuardI knew no one in this thread actually liked Warhammer you fucking terminally online bastards.When will mods nuke this board?
>>85543291I don't understand why people want squats back. they were retarded and still are
>>85544790the marine is kind of squatting in this pose (iconic marine posing) while the human is standing on a stone and is a black library character mini.GW has been pretty good at human scaling IMO, look at the new kriegers, im sure any new IG will be in line with them
>>85542600I'd get them whilst you still can
>>85543189You mean you expected the scions of the blood god of slaughter and war to be good in melee combat? Are you kidding?
>>85542600get as many of these as you can if you want nurgle daemons, one of the best SC! boxes theyve ever released
a local hobby store is doing a warzone nephilim event for a few weeks (i guess its just specific missions to play) at 1000pts.would this be a decent all-comers list? I know its probably swingy since its pretty elite but its just mostly what i have on hand that i can get ready in time.any advice is appreciated.basically im waiting to get infantry after i see what GW has around the corner for IG
>>85544979nice heckin' pupperinosthat hovertank needs some round stormshields hanging on the side or something
>>85543946So Twisted Helix and using one of the Primus/Magus as Inquisitor
>>85543815Are you fucking kidding you aren’t even a UC guy? Fuck off fully now
>>85544025>"This can never end badly." :said the Dark Eldar.at this point I believe eldar have no concept of things ending badly, they just use the cope that as long as they survive it's always a "failing forwards" at worst
do you guys know of something very basic and simple on amazon that i could use as a paint rack for citadel pots>inb4 using citadel
>>85545007>Twisted HelixEasily most based cult>mad scientists>men in black>horrible experiments>literally umbrella in space
>>85545076any of those clear plastic nailpolish holders
>>85544905nothing to do with Black Library anything. The female Rogue trader GW made is taller than a Primaris marine.
>>85545088how is the patriarch explained for twisted helix?
>>85543860That's pretty much every single warhammer event.>>85544829Post you're hairline.
>>85545096rogue traders are noble stock
>>85544287As the other Anon said, its pretty similar to loyalists. Most chaos marines actually think the emperor did a pretty good job designing astartes, and make improvements to their marines through demons, sorcery and forbidden technology for the most part. Due to the nature of chaos supply chains and medical facilities can be rare or non-existent so a lot of warbands use alternate methods of creating marines. There's things like the Daemonculaba like in this post >>85544305, but there are plenty of other work arounds such as creating clones, using sorcery to replicate the organs in an applicant, or in some of the larger warbands just being able to do the implantation. At this point there's like a thousand different ways that chaos marines use to get to a relatively similar result, and due to the strength even the weakest astartes have and the way the warp can strengthen most individuals, the fact that some methods create inferior marines doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
>>85543763looks a lot of a like my store ton of dudes with 30+ years and very few new players. Zero understanding from the old guard."just paint your army" when you would rather buy a box of models to actualy play."why don't you bring a different list" when all you have is this 2000pts, which is actualy more like 1800pts, you just keep stuff in reserves and hope by turn 3 a unit will die and you can recycle it. "We will do X, Y and Z and the event is going to awesome with everyone bringing cool terrain" when you have zero terrain, no place to store it and you would rather buy models."when you grow up to be an adult you will learn to be a non WAAC, for fun, painting first player" told to you by a dude with 16000pts of eldar, triple your years and double your parents (both of them combined) income.
>>85545106Stop. GW doesn't give a fuck about the scale, the primaris are true scale was a lie and seeing you try to explain this away with a hundred different excuses is pathetic.
>>85545099I don't think it needs much of an explanation: a cult grows, purestrains get birthed after 4 generations, in the absence of a patriatch another purestrain hits the library and becomes a psychic beacon
>A strike force of White Scars hunts the Hydra across the sand dunes of Haadekh. Veterans of countless xenos wars, the Space Marines know that the best method of fighting Tyranids is to cut the head from the beast, sending the swarm into confusion. However, each synapse creature the White Scars slay sends out a psychic scream, attracting fresh swarms of Tyranids to their location. Soon they are surrounded. Warriors to the end, the White Scars sell their lives dearly. Their sacrifice draws Hydra’s swarms away from Haadekh’s equatorial cities, giving the Imperium time to evacuate key personnelWould love to see 40k take on Mongolian Death Worm
>>85545116Sounds like you should actually paint your army, get more models, make some cool terrain and grow up to be an adult instead of making these seething posts here on /40kg/
>>85545117I'm not excusing anything, I'm telling you the facts: marines are not that tall, humans in 40k vary in height and there are bloodlines of practical peak humans, alongside ones that receive augmentationsslight scale differences in an army, between armies, are irrelevant, and it's not like GW hasn't always used hierarchical scales in the past, heroic proportions of equipment or reduced size for stuff like tanksjust take the miniatures you like, a few millimeters here and there mean nothing
>>85545093thanks, any you tried? mostly unsure about the size of them
>>85545116maybe you shouldn't have gotten in a hobby you can't afford or don't want to engage withtry videogames
>>85545127That sounds kinda dumb on the White Scars part. How does such a mobile strike force get surrounded and wiped out by nids that just lost their synapse?
>>85545140Oh I am that odd guy in the middle that somehow survived staying in the game from 7th ed. I ain't saying painting models is bad, or that having more models is bad. It is just the type of advice some old timers give to dudes in their mid teens that make zero sense. Some dudes that earn 1200$+ per month, don't get or don't remember how it is to have a hobby budget of 10-30$. And good advice in general, don't work so well then. Telling a 14y old to get an airbrush, 15+ paints makes as much sense as telling someone that in order to have no problem transporting their army, they should just buy a car or even better buy a house/flat of their own.
>>85545180I think what the story meant is that their dying synapse creatures sent a signal of marine location, so all other forces rushed there asapIt's consistent gimmick of that fleet
>>85545201Yeah but they are White Scars. Their default location is "Not here anymore". If it was a chapter known for digging in or dragging their feet like Imperial Fists or Salamanders it would make more sense.
>>85545177Anon. No one in their teens in my country can get in to GW games. When I was starting, getting two starter sets or an army deal and 1-2 boxs gave you a full army. I have my armies the way I like them, mostly buying recasts done here. But old timers don't tell new guys that they can get a Land Raider or a Knight for 10$ off the net. They would rather dump their own army on them for 400-500$ . It is like free money and doesn't anger the mrs, when she checks the family account.
Is there a PDF anyone has of the 2e Codex Imperialis? I'm really curious to read what the universe looked like back then.
>>85541766Cut down on the rule bloat but keep the mission system and this game will be far better.
>>85545216Likely they were busy cleaning up the feral swarm left without guidanceAnd you don't wanna rippers escape since according to Anphelion they can burrow and gestate into other bioforms including synaptic ones
>>85545238I have it. Here's the first page.
>>85545267Will you scan it and share a pdf link in exchange for (You)s?
>>85545156>I'm telling you the facts: marines are not that tallAnd I'm going to say you're wrong.That's a primaris marines even with the conservative estimate being like 8 feet tall, fucking Gaunt in this pic >>85544790 is up to the marine's shoulder in height making him like 7 feet. And if you go with the absolutely ridicilous size estimate of primaris being supposedly 9-10 feet tall, Gaunt in that pic is like 8-9 feet tall.Which is not gonna happen since every fucking human in the imperium would be suffering from malnutrition especially lower class plebians, and it heavily affects your over all height.And Gaunt is a normal ass plebian human.Just face it, primaris being GW's attempt to truescale was a fucking lie from the start just so they'd swallow the new release easier.You can even see this shit with the new sister models as well.GW doesn't give a fuck.
>>85544353I just gatekeep, our group won’t invite or even acknowledge troons. They can make their own groups.
>>85545254Rippers can do what now? Since when was that a thing? Doesn't that fuck with their whole dynamic. How does a ripper morph into a carnifex?
>>85545317It's been part of their lore for a few editions now, I remember reading about it back in 3rd, there was also more about it in later editions.
>>85543291I promised that the campaign would start in January, I swore that things would be different this time and we wouldn't play on bare wooden boards and among half painted buildings.Work's been hell, but I've been procrastinating making one off characters & objects, rather than building more terrain and two boards.
>>85545287No but I will read a bit and summarise for you:>Chaos is the greatest and primary threat. This is stated outright multiple times.>The Imperium is portrayed as comprising a small amount of the total systems in the galaxy, but spread across the galaxy>The Imperium's warp travel is said to be the best and the key to their ability to maintain a large empire, with rivals like the Orks being unable to reliably travel and therefore having small empires>Primarchs are even more powerful, specifically said to have warp-based strength and able to defeat entire armies on their own. Specifically mentioned that some Primarchs had unique powers like "flight and invisibility">The Primarchs are not immortal and the last one died 1400 years before the 41st millennium.
>>85545464I miss the Star Child and Sensei
>>85545483That's basically the Perpetuals.
>>85545493Not even close
>>85545493>Mortal incarnation and direct descendants of the Emperor being hunted by the Inquisition>That's basically these random immortal peopleWhat?
>>85545510No that was literally the root idea of the Perpetuals. They are a revision of the Sensei concept.
>>85545096She's wearing heels retard, jesus these truescale faggots are so annoying
Part of me wants to make a four-armed Wraithlord.
>>85545627Do it then.
>>85545634I would need to buy a new Wraithlord, and a new box of Wraithguard to use the Ghost Swords.
>>85545534The Perpetuals aren't literally the Emperor's children but the same kind of immortal mutant as the Emperor. They are also depicted as leading bands of renegades and psykers in activities far outside the Imperium's understanding, and dealing closely with the Eldar, just like the Sensei typically did. When you compare the two it's obvious that the Perpetuals are an attempt to reintroduce a revised version of the Sensei back into the setting. I think the Horus Heresy series will conclude with the extinction of the natural Perpetuals though.
>>85543291I can't stand admech, custodes, GSC or sisters models. Something about them just rubs me the wrong way.
>>85545314the conservative estimate is 7 and halfthe high end is 8 and a spita commissar is not a normal man
>>85545799No, marines are bigger than people like to think.And schola progenium students, which is what the commissars are, are just normal ass humans, they don't get anything special for themselves.Only thing they get is a fucking education.
>>85545710apart from custodes youve named the three best looking armies. are you alright
>>85545852I don't like them because their high quality makes me feel threatened. You see, I have a micropenis.
>>85545858Oh, that's tough. It must be hard for you to admit this.
>>85545875It is hard, unlike my micropenis, which I can't get hard. I'm also gay.
>>85545890My condolences. Stay strong, anon.
glowy effect on crons with Talassar Blue instead of Tesseract Glowyes or no? anyone seen something like that?
>>85545650god I hope so. that there are apparently teeming masses of perpetuals running around all over the place annoys the hell out of me. that they are the vehicle of destroying everything about the Ollanius Pius story that was inspiring and beautiful makes me hate them with a passion
>>85546468>Ollanius PiusThe terminator?
>>85545436I hate USB-C/Thunderbolt docks so fucking much. They tend to be unreliable as hell and despite costing three times as much as the traditional proprietary docks they usually have half as many USB for some inexplicable reason. On top of that some of the Thunderbolt ones have fucking fans in them, so now you get to enjoy the high-pitched whine and hiss of an additional little crappy fan on top of the one in your laptop.Plus, they also tend to be constructed in such a way that they actually end up taking up more desk space along with your laptop than the proprietary docks did. God I hate them.
>>85546468>destroying everything about the Ollanius Pius story that was inspiringIt was NEVER an inspiring or even especially well-known bit of the fluff. In fact it was largely seen as Imperium propaganda until the Horus Heresy series plucked this bit of trivia from obscurity and built a major storyline around it.
>>85544099it's not that it's complicated or divisive.It's literally just 'WELL I HAVE A SUPER FORCEFIELD THAT CAN'T BE STOPPED BY STUFF THAT STOPS FORCEFIELDS'
>>85544467I had this guy at my store who 'converted' a flesh-eater courts army into a traitor guard army Read: he glued lasguns into their hands and called it doneWhen they got squatted, he just told us 'yeah, they're DKOK now.'
>>85546749I distinctly remember reading fans written poetry about the fluff before they decided OP was yet another perpetual
>>85547196James care not from whence the Games Workshop product came only that the profitable grey plastic flows.
>While this may look an awful lot like an invulnerable save, it’s not – daemons are far stranger! Even a railgun can’t just ignore Daemonic Invulnerability.Great, so we got invulnerables, guns that ignore the invulnerables, and then invulnerables that ignore the guns that ignore the invulnerables. Can't wait for dark eldar void bombs or some shit to ignore that too next.
>>85547443it's depressing. It would be so nice if someone who knew what they were doing were writing the rules, but inertia is greatly in favor of continued incompetence/greed based rule fuckery
>>85543860>failed spot check
>>85544259You implying the people don’t love the tomboys.
What's the point of giving Chaos Bikers the option of getting an extra special weapon or replacing their Combi-bolter with another Combi when they both cost the same amount of points?
>>85543291I want Tau auxiliaries.
>>85545627why four-armed, when you can four-legged?
>>85545044Crossbone Vanguard > ZeonGryps Conflict > One Year WarPrincipality of Zeon a shit.
>>85543291I took a loan that i would pay for the next 3 months in order to get a boatload of minis and supplies that i could get steadly for a couple of monthes instead
>>85544807Gaunt without his hat according to retards
>>85543357Good luck finding models>>85543332Cossacks>>85541651Anyone know any good non russian, but european recasters?