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Thread question: What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races
there aren't any
>the hutts
jews.
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>>85519801
Hutts are Chinese. I will not elaborate.
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?
It helps no one to be reductive
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>>85519801
Pretty sure Watto was Jewish.
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>>85519884
Muuns are Jewish stereotypes, Toydarians are greasy Arabic camel salesmen.
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>>85519884
Muuns are the banking clan.
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>>85519801
Hutts are woefully misrepresented in Star Wars. They're stereotyped as criminals, but the reality is vastly different, nigh Hutt in proportion we can say. While their commercial activities are demonstrably at odds with Galactic Republic standards of legitimacy, none of their cultural imperatives or traits are in defiance of their own civilization's laws or mores. Within Hutt parameters their activities are not criminal but rather wholly legal and the pursuit of them is frequently laudable. Dismissing this as merely characteristic of criminality's rejection of social strictures is poor reasoning because, unlike examples of organized crime in Earth's past and present, the Hutts' ways predate the introduction of Republican laws criminalizing their deeds.

I posit that it is far more reasonable to see the Hutts as a parallel civilization of unadulterated capitalism existing within a racial and tribal hierarchy whose social order prioritizes dominance over other species. These species fulfill the function of servitude for a system which is built upon a precept not of the individual as a citizen but rather upon tribes and clans as the quantum unit of society. Insofar as the individual of subject species does exist for Hutts, it is not as a person entered into a social contract whose purpose is mutual or reciprocal. No, the individual in Hutt sociology is a unit of labor, bricks in a pyramid which exists to facilitate ascension of the Hutt species. We might not approve their civilization but we ought to appreciate it as a civilization, not dismiss it as a lawless underworld. Actually, in Hutt Space, "crime" is the lawful overworld.
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>>85519785
>Humie being ripped
He wishes
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>>85520030
Hutt hands wrote this post
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>>85520030
Based and Huttpilled.
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>>85520034
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>>85520030
You have a point to a degree, but it remains the case that Hutts have a series of near-feudal fiefdoms driven by illicit activities in Republic/Imperial space. Those are definitionally criminal gangs, regardless of whether or not it's Legal On Nal Hutta. It's not just violation of international (intergalactic?) law; they're openly running clandestine organizations independent of the Hutt Empire from inside of foreign territory.
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>>85520098
Allegedly there is actually a treaty put in place during the Clone Wars that allows them to do so with the Republic being forbidden from investigating their organizations or methods:
>https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Hutt–Republic_treaty
>"These terms came at a price for the Republic, however; with the treaty, the criminal-dealing Hutts were able to safeguard their methods from the eyes of the Republic."
Can't be sure to what extent it carried, but some level of diplomatic and legal immunity seems to be in effect for Hutt-connected people.
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>>85520097
That accident really brought out his neanderthal side.
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>>85520178
This is the dumbest lore I've ever read, thanks Filoni.
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The unused stupid-ass radar ship toy from Solo re-debuts in Andor.
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>>85520386
You act like bloated, corrupt bureaucracies don't make fucktarded treaties during armed conflicts. Just look at Syria. The Hutts probably had similar treaties with the CIS
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>>85520097
>this causes the alien females to ovulate
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>FOOLISH JEDI!!
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>>85520435
I would actually suspect, myself, that it wasn't a stupid idea but was a deliberate idea (not by Filoni, I don't think he has the brains to consider it, I mean in universe). Palpatine was pushing for it against the misgivings of the Jedi Order. Palpatine also is deliberately attempting to use the Clone Wars as a means of bringing down the Republic and Jedi to turn it into an Empire. Making a deal that allows the Hutts to effectively operate espionage/criminal scum gangs within Republic territory and with immunity from investigation will bolster the belief that law and order are breaking down, that the Jedi and Republic law keeping is a broken, corrupt, inefficient, or ineffective force. So when he turns it into the Empire and wipes out the Jedi, he can do so with the promise to restore law, order, peace, and security.

And even better? Palpatine pushed for it but his name wasn't on the treaty at all. The Jedi Order negotiated and signed it on behalf of the Republic.

It all works out perfectly for good old Sheevy boy.
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>>85520030
People are still trotting out this tired copypasta?
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>>85520030
Hutt vassal races typed this
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What characters, including alternate versions (young Ahsoka, speederbike Leia, etc) are likely to come to Legion?

Especially for CIS/Empire, since the good guys are generally awash in names.
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I find it funny how Rogue One is getting the TCW treatment before the sequels.
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>>85521420
It has been almost 6 years since Rogue One and only 3 since the sequels ended, for what it's worth.

Check back in... 2025, I guess.
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>>85521420
Is it ANOTHER all-human show? Jesus fucking Christ.
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>>85521414
>CIS
savage oppress? makes about much sense as original maul being in CIS
OOM-9, he actually got more lines than maul in ep 1
barris offee could work, even if only as a merc
prequel sheev with dual sabers

>empire
inquisitors for days, any number of moffs who had more than 1 line, thrawn
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>>85521456
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, it was all humans because Lucasfilm and ILM have been gutted into irrelevancy.
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>>85521456
Aliens aren't relatable, sorry.
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>>85521456
>check out the weapons
>its just an ak-47
>not even any gubbins or chrome stuck on
Disney schlock, avoid.
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>>85521414
Admiral Trench
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>>85521460
Most moffs wouldn't end up anywhere near a battlefield, so they would be largely out. Thrawn's another story, since we explicitly see him armed and leading infantry.
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>>85521481
>he doesnt know about the MG-34 prop
sure is /tv/ in here
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>>85519785
>changing the general acronym
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>>85521420
>Rogue One is getting the TCW treatment
what do you mean by this?
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>>85521497
>Most moffs wouldn't end up anywhere near a battlefield, so they would be largely out
we never see veers outside the confines of a vehicle in the movies, but they turned him into a field commander
so artistic license is pretty inevitable

wouldnt surprise me if we got general dodonna and grand moff tarkin as 3-wound, unarmed, commander units with god-tier command cards
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>>85521456
actual reasonable complaint

>>85521481
retarded baboon alert
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>>85521497
There's Tarkin
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>>85521456
I did see one Alian in the trailer working as laborer for half a second at the 1:21 mark in the trailer... how it could have just been a black guy and I'm massively racist
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>>85521414
this guy
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>>85521522
True, but Veers is at least a battlefield commander.

>3-wound, unarmed, commander units with god-tier command cards
This sounds kinda awful, don't divert that far from the formula. Games with something like that would swing 180 degrees on whether or not they made a couple early armor saves.
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>>85521555
>This sounds kinda awful, don't divert that far from the formula.
> Games with something like that would swing 180 degrees on whether or not they made a couple early armor saves.
this is more or less CIS gaming with the T-series
who have 4 wounds, white surgeless armor, and the supremely good for CIS direct keyword
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>>85521481
Far from the first they've directly used a product as a prop.
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>>85519813
>>85519884
>>85519908
Nemoidians are also Jewish. Or Chinese. Or Japanese. It's wild that you can apply real-world cultures to so many Star Wars races if they seem racist. What I want to know is what race the Techno-Union Army is based on.
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>>85521456
Don't be a fucking sjw and insert aliens where they don't belong anon.
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>>85521582
Right, and the result is that they hide as far out of line of sight as they can while staying close enough to the front for bolster and direct; abilities balanced out by droids having terrible statlines and being punished by AI for poor order management. Further, bolster and direct are just kinda passive, every-turn buffs to the army.

You're talking about something that is more extreme on every one of those axis (fragility, strength of effect, timing of effect). Unlike bolster, a command card is a power spike, you either get to play it or you don't. And unlike T-Series, whose lose means you lose bolster/direct, losing a character who you brought command cards for means your command hand becomes gutted - you have to sacrifice other cards to bring them in the first place, and now they have to be made strong enough to offset that extremely binary risk. And furthermore, droids are designed are bolster/direct with poor surge charts and AI, whereas you're talking about adding those mechanics to traditional factions designed with well-rounded infantry.
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>>85521481
this is the same franchise that took the pan magazine off a Lewis Gun and called it a laser rifle, you're gonna need to work a lot harder than that to get me butthurt about nu-wars
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>>85520097
>Not knowing who Humie is
>Posting Star Wars instead
Is this the result of extreme isolation from anything that isn't SW, or you're just an ultra-newfag?
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>>85521506
Movie/s with cool visuals and designs but the characters were boring as fuck getting a prequel series that heavily expands on the characters and setting, in a sense retroactively fixing the movie/s by adding more context or impact to scenes where there previously wasn't any.

They also confirmed that the end of Andor will directly lead into the beginning of Rogue One, kind of like TCW's final arc tied into Revenge of the Sith.
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>>85520214
well, luke needs to work out hard so he can punch god in the nuts
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>>85521733
>Movie/s with cool visuals and designs but the characters were boring as fuck
>getting a prequel series that heavily expands on the characters and setting, in a sense retroactively fixing the movie/s by adding more context or impact to scenes where there previously wasn't any.
I weep
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>>85521670
maybe not as crazy as the T-series, but maybe more in line with krennic or palpatine
back line units who get most of their utility from command cards and keywords

or just let dodonna ride in the A-A5
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>>85521708
>use image of nu-wars
>to show old-wars was shit too
At least post an image from OT.
>took the pan magazine off a Lewis Gun and called it a laser rifle
They did remove the bipod as well and add some gubbins. It's pretty lazy, but on the other hand Lewis gun is not as easily recognizable as the most common assault rifle in the world.
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>>85521708
The two guns you posted appear different, one has been mocked up to look like a wacky laser gun. The guy in the trailer has a flat-out AK, with no alteration whatsoever.
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>>85519801
Wookiees are the Dwarves.
>strong
>sturdy
>hairy
>grumpy
>good at crafts
>loyal to those who proove themselves
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>>85521820
If you look closely at the nigger with the AK (you'd think people would do this because it is literally the ONLY THING IN THE TRAILER ANYBODY PAYS ATTENTION TO) you'll find that the AK is not unmodified - the upper receiver has been replaced with some vaguely art-deco or pre-war German-style stamped metal, and the magazine has a wierd pattern of metallic structures on it that make it look almost as if the magazine were cut in half and rewelded together after being rotated 90 degrees, certainly not something you'd find in a sporting goods catalog. They also used some fluted bakelite upper handguard piece over the gas tube. So that's at least as """""modified"""""" as
>MG34 with some brick welded on to the feed mechanism.
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>>85521836
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>>85519785
>Droids
Skeletons/golems
>Gammoreans
Orcs
>Jawas
Dwarf
>Ughnaughts
Gnome/Dwarf
>Yoda
Goblin

Can’t find a good analogue for Space Elves.
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>>85522007
>Can’t find a good analogue for Space Elves.
Empire/humans? Elves in modern fantasy tend to be depicted as facists.
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>former pupil who turned to the dark side
>responsible for the death of the mentor of one of my party members
>uses BX-battle droids painted purple and armed with a variety of vibro blades and electro-staves as minions
>uses wrist-blades that have been electrified to resist lightsabers
following the previous thread, might rip-off shredder as a BBEG for my next campaign
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>>85521414
>Guaranteed
Jango (CIS Merc)
Mace (GAR)
Thrawn (Empire, because he was on the ground that one time in Rebels)
at least one Inquisitor, probably Grand Inquisitor (Empire)
Jabba (his own Merc faction, maybe Empire)
Bib Fortuna (Merc, most likely as a generic Majordomo)
Savage Opress (CIS/Shadow Collective Merc)
Fennec Shand (GAR/Empire/Hutt/Fett Gotra Merc)
Bad Batch bunch (GAR, Merc? Empire for Crosshair)
Merc Lando (only because he is getting his own show)
GCW Obi-Wan Operative (Rebel)
>Probable
Trench (CIS)
Dengar (Merc for anyone)
Zuckuss & 4-LOM (Rebel/Empire/Hutt Mercs)
Chancellor Palpatine/Darth Sidious (GAR/CIS, command cards can be used in Empire)
Black Kkrrsantan or however the fuck it's spelled (Empire/Hutt/Fett Gotra Merc)
Bo-Katan (Merc, maybe anyone but the Empire/SC)
Hondo (Merc for anyone)
Jar Jar (GAR)
Tarpal (GAR, will probably just be a generic Gungan Commander)
Ezra (Rebel)
Saw (GAR/Rebel Merc)
>Less Likely
Pre Viszla (CIS/Shadow Collective Merc)
Dr Aphra (Rebel/Empire Merc, just because she is on Force Barrier's Card Art)
Aurra Sing (CIS Merc)
Zam Wessel (CIS Merc)
>Unlikely but might happen
Merc Han
Merc Chewie
Qi'ra (Merc)
Boussh Leia Operative (maybe as a double release with the actual Boussh?)
TCW Boba (Merc)
Boss Nass (GAR)
Cal Kestis (Rebel)
Kannan (Rebel)
Qui-Gonn (GAR)
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>>85522007
Twi'lek could be elves, at least female ones. They're all only good for slaves and cumrags after all.
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Which live-action show do you think he's appearing in? Considering all the recent hub bub with his actor making an appearance at Galaxy Edge and him admitting there is "interest" in Cal appearing in a movie or show.
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>>85521651
Wakanda? Skakoans are the most technologically advanced race, but their actual culture is very tribal and primitive.
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>>85521787
Surprised they haven't announced a Ben Solo show yet, people would definitely watch that considering Kylo is the most praised part of the ST and Adam Driver is the only actor who said he was willing to return.
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>>85522055
Ashoka maybe if they don't want to commit to having Call live post-Endor then Andor season 2
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>>85522095
Unless the actor is already signed to another work and doesn't have the time, they all can return for the right price. It's a job.
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>>85521667
>alien in the middle
what did he mean by this
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>>85522095
Most of the comics about Kylo Ren's past were pretty lame, and that's coming from someone who thinks his character was the only saving grace of the new movies.
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>>85521667
Did they really had all those extras there or is this movie magic?
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>>85522095
Driver isn't willing to return.
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>>85522173
50% of those were cardboard standees until Lucas went back in the special edition to replace em with real guys
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>>85522055
Obi-Wan, if they want to connect him to The Path. Otherwise no idea, he'd fit better in some animated project like Visions or Tales.
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>>85522199
It's a job, anon. If he doesn't have a grudge against the directors/producers, he accepts it.
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>>85521787
>stormtrooper
>stormtrooper
>stormtrooper
>stormtrooperstormtrooperstormtrooper
No thanks. The only cool things in this picture are the nu-imperial guards and the AT-ST with a dick.
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>>85522154
Token diversity hire
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>>85522163
Comics can be easily retconned, Bad Batch already did that and Andor probably will too.
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>>85522173
even the scene in episode 6 when palps finally arrives was movie magic
and that had a way bigger budget

only the front row were real
middle row was dummies with clothing
rear row was matte painting
although the magic was really good, most people thought it was a full crowd
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>>85521891
I didn't say it's unmodified, just that it's a very recognizable weapon.

Magazine almost reminded me of the prototype aluminium AK magazine. And with all the AK patterns around the world, I wouldn't put it past there to exist that style of upper receiver, but it'd be a simple piece to fabricate, along with the magazine and uppher handguard (though metallic ones exist in real life in various styles). They're just bent pieces of metal, so anyone can fabricate a replacement easily. Still, would've expected a little more, like what they did with the Stg.44s and ARs in the OT.
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>>85522173
The ones in the front used to bizarrely be a matte painting.
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>>85522135
>they all can return for the right price
The question is always the same - are you willing to pay specific actor the amount of money they are asking for.
On average, the answer is "nope". This is especially prominent with TV series. One of the best examples in action was ending one of the seasons of GoT, in which they've killed 3/4 of the cast. Why, you might ask? Was it dramatic tension? Was it a plot-point? Was it a twist?
Nope, it was all those actors they've killed being "worth" together 2/3 of the total budget they had. It was easier to just group-kill them all (and also make it easier job for a writing team) than kept them around and keep paying their paychecks.
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Do you think Palpatine will appear in Andor? Did thd EU or nucanon ever establish if Palpatine attended every senate meeting or if he sometimes (or mostly) left it to someone like Mas Amedda?
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>>85522095
Driver doesn't want to return, the last time the question was raised. He's "doing other projects" which is Hollywood speak for "fuck no" unless they pay him a small fortune.
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>>85522055
I want Cal to go full Cordova and explore the Unknown Regions like the Jedi Tomb Raider he was destined to be.
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>>85522055
Out of those, hard to say, he could fit in most, but none feel like a good fit. Maybe in Ahsoka as her ally, but he should really be in some Jedi Academy show that doesn't exist.
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>>85522337
He'll probably appear in a hologram like in Obi-Wan
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>>85522337
It's going to be a huge blunder if he doesn't make a single appearance.
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>>85521708
>take off a fairly obscure for the time gun's most silhouette defining feature
>paint it matte black
>add some gubbins
>now it looks like a different gun
>this is somehow exactly the same as fielding literally just an AK
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>>85521787
He said cool visuals and designs, anon.
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>>85522329
The actors that made it to the final season of GOT were the highest paid ones, as in like Peter Dinklage, Lena Headley, and Kit Harington got a ludicrous amount of money that was in the millions (the average actor salary ranges from $10,000 to 100,000 usd).

Streaming shows are different and now have budgets on par with blockbuster movies, more prominent actors are willing to appear in TV shows. Hell Ewan Mcgregor starred in the Obi-Wan show, twenty years ago he probably would have just been a cameo while someone else played Kenobi for most of the series. It'd be easy to get Adam Driver back (especially when the ST actor whose prominence is on par with him already starred in a Marvel show, Oscar Isaac).
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>>85521651
Neimoidians are Thai.
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>>85522278
I hope so, that Cassian comic about how he met K2 was horrible, no wonder they delayed it to after the movie when it was supposed to come before it.
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>>85522316
>bizarrely
They probably didn't have enough extras.
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>>85521651
>>85522093
Germans. They love techno music and are good at engineering.
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>>85522353
This was what he said back in 2021
>‘No, I’m totally not against it. For me, it’s a filmmaker’s medium, so my only thing is working with great filmmakers. Whatever the size… it’s never been interesting to me, to an extent. There’s interesting things about working on both. I always just follow people I’d be interested in working with, and whether I’d be right for the part – things like that. No, definitely not averse,’ he said.
https://www.unilad.com/featured/adam-driver-reveals-first-thing-he-bought-with-his-actors-paycheck/
Which is ironic considering he has the least incentive to return considering he's the one gettting the most roles after appearing in SW, in comparison to Oscar Isaac and John Boyega blatantly saying fuck no to ever returning
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>>85522032
Enter your Rebel foes!
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>>85522507
>leads
>does machines
>cool but crude
>party dude
is there any better set up for the player group?
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>>85522337
Not in person I hope, and not with the Sith robes.
I'd like if they did it like in Rebels, have him only appears in Holos using his OT look, on screens or as statues in the streets. Never adressing any of the characters directly, looking like some sort of mythical figure above mere mortals. His presence always felt driving the plot, but his hand in it never seen since he has eople for that.
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>>85522584
Just missing the wandering samurai guest star
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?

Going by their characteristics, not their appearance:
Humans - Humans
Elves - Twi'leks
Dwarves - Ugnaughts
Orcs - Wookies
Goblins - Neimoidians
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>>85522610
Here's the updated version of that pic.
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>>85522587
Moff's and senators are the exact kind of people he'd address directly.
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>>85522443
Could they not bring over a bunch of local Norf FC supporters for a pint?
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>>85522627
Thanks, but it is a shame that Tomoe has no game
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>>85519940
this nigga eatin twix?!
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>>85522507
what if FF but Star Wars was never a concept I ever thought about before
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>>85522732
It's karma, neh?
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>>85522765
It's from an old Dark Horse oneshot about Darth Vader going to not Latveria. The rebels die in ironic ways based on their Fantasic 4 counterparts. GrimGrim gets crushed by rocks, F4MF gets pulled apart by Vader
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>>85522642
I know, but it doesn't feel right to have him in every series they push out.
Plus I believe he should be at his most manipulative, closest to how he was in the OT when dealing with high-ranking officials.
I like the idea that he would try to control his image, though you are probably right and at this point he has no reason to care since at that time absolutely no one can threaten his supremacy.
I also like the idea of Palpatine being seen as some sort God-like awe-inspiring figure in his Empire outside of a small circle of priviledged few like Vader, Tarkin or Thrawn.
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>>85520098
So hutts are swiss?
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>>85523197
>talk funny
>have a bunch of slaves and vassals
>do a little bit of cheeky genocide
>somehow get away with all of it
>likes pickled seafood
>odd sense of interior decorating
>habitual nudists
They're Dutch
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>>85523197
They have much more influence than the Swiss. According to TCW they control most of the Outer Rim. So while the official borders of Huttland are relatively small, their actual range, where their currency is dominant, where their agents are in charge or in positions of influence, and so on, almost certainly exceeds the Republic in sheer space. But the Republic has more concentrated wealth and industry. Compare it to the Republic being the USA, the CIS being the EU, so the Hutts might be something like Africa - low industrial capacity, but big (Africa is 3x the size of the US on sheer space).

Or following on from >>85523336 in a nautical analogy, the Hutts are the Dutch, and the Republic/Empire is the British Empire.
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>changing the thread acronym
Newfags are a blight.
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>>85522614
Twi'leks aren't immortal forest-dwelling super-Finns, Wookiees aren't a dark lord's evil hordes born from shadow, Neimoidians aren't low-level dungeon fodder, and Ugnaughts aren't noticeably better craftsmen or alcoholics than the rest of the galaxy's races.
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>>85519785
So what exactly is their relationship?
Because I thought orc lady treated him like a toy, but now she's indulging him by playing the slave for his nerd con.
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>>85523724
Source on that image?
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>>85520097
This is Luuke
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>>85523592
Your views of fantasy races are horribly obsolete
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>>85523724
This art could almost be based, if not for the nu-helmets.
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>>85523827
Old good, new bad. Simple as.
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>>85523724
What's the significance of having 4 lekku?
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>>85519785
Ewoks are like halflings (if you use based halflings)
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>>85524025
ewoks are kobolds
>dumb
>primitive
>heavily rely on traps
>can beat a high-level party in spite of being the weakest monster in the game
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>>85523934
Bigger brain.
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>party have spent most of their time flying a YT-1300
>doing a rescue mission for one of the party, the Twi'lek slicer/pilot who was on a quest to find his kidnapped sister and cousins
>going to rescue the Twi'leks from their slaver captors
>involves baiting the slavers and their fancy Corellian Corvette pirate ship to come and get them with a fake distress signal
>I expect them to try and talk their way through a shakedown, while the infiltrator/face (human) will sneak the three girls to safety by getting them into an escape pod and fixing the systems to not display it being released in a low-powered state (they spent about half an hour to 45 minutes working this plan out)
>instead as the airlock opens, the Trandoshan Juyo Berserker and Wookiee Marauder/Colossus, quiet for most of the planning, exchange a glance
>together they ditch the rest of the party, join forces, and go full murderhobo
>there are no survivors
>afterwards the pilot speaks up
>"hey guys, why don't we keep the ship?"

So that was my session tonight. Any thoughts on what I can do with the players wanting to trade up to the bigger ship? They're discussing going to Ryloth to get the Twi'lek's family and clan to maybe provide some crew for it (and clean the blood off the walls after the Wookiee rampage), it needs more than the five of them. But with a bigger ship they should also now have bigger problems. I'm already thinking the rest of the pirates who might have a base somewhere will want their ship back, and they are also now (technically) ship thieves, which will get BoSS on their ass. I'm also thinking maybe the slavers answered to a Hutt, but don't want to go all in on introducing much bigger fish yet.

I also want to let them do some things with the ship, if they're going to keep it, so they can enjoy their shiny new toy.
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>>85524047
Even in-universe, an Ewok is a Dwarf. A Dwarf WOOKIE, but still a Dwarf version.
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>>85523724
>So what exactly is their relationship?

So Flick can keep drawing his taste.
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>>85522377
Well Rangers is kill thanks to Gina's complete lack of filter, so they might stick him in whatever they come up with to fill that slot in the production schedule.
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How would you fit First Order Stormtrooper armor into Legends canon?
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>>85524865
I wouldn't
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>>85519785
Tieflings are twi'leks (depending on the setting ofcourse).
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>>85524865
maybe some kind of Fel empire variant, specifically the One Sith empire as opposed to the Fel remnants (post coup, pre defeat of darth krayt?)
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>>85524933
I understand that you have a tiefling fetish, but this is ludicrous on every level.
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>>85524972
Really? They are usually enslaved and the subject of prejudice. The men all look like gross landwhales and the women are super attractive. Fits the basic criteria for twi'leks. It's not as if any fantasy race is going to fit 1:1 for star wars. Barring humans, maybe.
Also, get a grip.
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>>85524993
Bib Fortuna didn't look like a gross landwhale. Definitely less attractive than the females admittedly.
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>>85524047
>following the victory, lando took the fucking chipmunks to a casino and gave them his shrunken clothes
>the ewok is trying to determine whether the chips are edible
>the twi'lek whore saw him in trendy clothes holding chips and is already attempting to make him her daddy
>he's going to rip her throat out for sneaking up on him from the back as soon as he figures out what the chips are for
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>>85524993
Their men look good. Orn Free Taa is the ugly one. On the other hand, neither do male tieflings look particularly bad, so you're just talking out of your ass.
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>>85521481
They clearly did some fuckery to the upper.
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>>85524865
Eh, just as another unit armor. Simple as that. There's many different troopers in Legends already.
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>>85524865
It's already in "Legends canon" (there's no such thing) because it's just a regular fucking stormtrooper.
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>>85522462
Mandalorians are the germans, due to their tradition of having an gigantic chimpout that kills a ridiculous amount of people every now and then and losing every single time
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>>85521787
>Cool visuals
>PT
Those all look like Saturday-morning cartoon toy figurines
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>>85522095
>Kylo is the most praised part of the ST
Why people keep repeating this
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Acolyte plot leaks:
>the show's sith lord is an ultra-rich arms dealer, outwardly an otherwise unremarkable capitalist
>he supplies the MC's village with weapons to hold off constant raids
>secretly, he is also sellings weapons to the raiders
>with which the raiders kill the MC's childhood friend, causing her to go full Skywalker-rage which awakens her force powers
>by the time she's done killing raiders, the jedi have both already arrived to save the village and already been defeated by the sith lord, he forces her to kill a jedi and take their lightsaber
>unrelatedly, her planet is home to a giant mountain full of holes, in which live giant bug monsters (who are possibly a hive mind)
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>>85525644
double brainlet
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>>85525676
Doesn't sound bad. I can't wait to see how they manage to fuck it up horribly
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>>85525670
What else, then?
Finding any positives in the ST is difficult enough, at least he had a cool sword.
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>>85525676
>>85525708
I forgot to mention this is just the first episode, maybe two. Rest of the show is about her and his other prospective apprentices competing against/killing each other.
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>>85525670
because it's objectively true, any time you see someone say anything good about the sequel trilogy, whether out of grim reluctance or genuine (misplaced) belief that it was good, the first and last words out of their mouths will be Kylo Ren
this is doubly true if you're talking to a woman
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>>85525735
So, what, like a venamis/plagueis or palpatines apprentice harem sith superbowl? It could be good but after kenobi I REALLY don't want to get my hopes up
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>>85525670
He's the closest thing to a character. Least criticized is unfortunately the same thing as most praised.
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>>85525676
>>85525735
>hyper capitalist villain
>forces his appre-err, ACOLYTES into competing in an elimination game for his approval
How Trumpian!
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>>85525790
I struggle to comprehend what this post means, but to answer the question, think Squid Games but with sithy missions instead of marbles.
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>>85524993
>They are usually enslaved
They are the ones enslaving themselves, and it's often voluntary. The girls would much rather sit on some rich pervert's face than break their backs in a spice factory.
>subject of prejudice
The only twi'lek "prejudice" that I recall is that their women are ludicrously promiscuous, and it happens to be completely true.
>The men all look like gross landwhales
Wat Tambor
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>>85524993
>The men all look like gross landwhales
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>>85525644
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>>85525953
> hasn't read the books
> squit game
Not surprising you don't understand
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>>85520407
Those are tractor beam dishes, not radar.
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>>85525740
If you talk about people who enjoy movies in general, not just Star Wars fanboys, there's going to be a lot of praise for the cinematography, especially in TLJ. You're 100% right about women, though.
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>>85526074
> hasn't read the books
I never learned how to read.
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How do we know Wat Tambov died? It’s never shown, his body isn’t ever shown, and he literally chills out and watches while Anakin kills everyone before casually standing up before the scene cuts. Is Wat Tambor a Sith Lord?
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>>85526228
you see his dead body lying lifeless on the ground
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>>85526134
I'm sorry for your loss
>>85526238
Astounding
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>>85526228
>>85526238
Dude's a cyborg. He could always come back as Meta Wat Tambor and periodically harass Vader.
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>>85526228
>>85526238
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>>85526238
What am I looking at? Is this a screenshot from ep3? Why does Vader look poorly photoshopped in?
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>>85526523
Well, actually, he's not. He's wearing a kind of a ground space suit because skakoans are built for super high pressure.
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>>85526523
Will Wat be the secret endgame villain of Mando?

>“It was I who made the droids that killed your family!”
>*dramatic organ music*
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>>85526555
>Well, actually, he's not.
All the more reason he become one now! He survived thermal detonators to the face, after all.
>>85526556
I choose to believe he's the head of the New Confederacy that's mentioned in one of the Sequel Era star charts but never elaborated on.
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You can have one (1) force-wielder from Disney canon added to Legion ASAP, who's your pick and why is it RotS Sheev?
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>>85526714
I pick Disney Kanan :^)
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>>85526714
Because it's either him, MaRey Sue or Darth Schoolshooter.
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>>85526714
You can't be in Legion when you need a machine the size of a building to keep you alive.
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>>85526800
>>85526820
He said ROTS, not TROS. TROS!Palps would be a terrible pick because he'd open the door to GW style "set piece" characters that lug a whole fucking piece of scenery around with them.
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>>85526820
Y'all need more barrel rolls.

>>85526799
Kanan, Kanan (cegado), or Kanan (ultra instinto)?
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>>85526843
Wait, are you telling me episode nine wasn’t actually titled “Rise of The Sheev”?
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>>85526948
Daredevil Kanan is the best version and would have the most chance at a unique and interesting unit
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>>85526948
Kanan Blanco
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>>85525676
When does this take place?
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>>85527178
High Republic, supposedly near the end of, so maybe 100 years pre-TPM or so?
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>>85523724
Started out being one of Flicks standard "Young Guy with larger older girl" with him being the captured breeding slave of the orc lady, but they've been romantic since like image 3-4.

At this point they're like a knockoff Adam's family, just a freaky couple, though actually in a triune with elf.
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>>85519785
way to fuck up the subject line op, its /SWG/, not "swag"
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>>85527226
>Started out being one of Flicks standard "Young Guy with larger older girl" with him being the captured breeding slave of the orc lady, but they've been romantic since like image 3-4.
So it's a standard Flick comic.
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>>85526553
Because Vader IS poorly photoshopped in
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>>85527261
I'd say the standard is probably "Young dude gets raped by like 30 different women being passed between them in comedy situations.
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>>85526948
I prefer Kanan Nihil
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>>85527308
I think Lothal SUCKS
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>>85525676
why do these kinds of shows with clearly capitalist villains end up in shows that are funded in-part or fully paid for by capitalists?
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>>85527565
Because anti-capitalist audiences are suckers.
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>>85526843
I assumed RotS stood for "Rise of the Skywalker" because what person in his sane mind would refer to Lucas's original works as "Disney canon"?
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>>85521456
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>>85521477
>UM WHERE ARE ALL THE HECKIN ALIENS BROS
In Jim Henson's ROTJ, where they belong.
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>>85527565
What the fuck are you talking about

are there many hollywood tv shows exclusively funded by anarchists or north koreans
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>>85527666
>what person in his sane mind would refer to Lucas's original works as "Disney canon"?

Disney canon expressly includes all nine films and TCW, as Disney has stated several times?
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>>85527226
I feel so bad for the elf. It deserves better.
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>>85527565
They want to show that they're the "good" capitalists. Also, what a bizarre fucking word to use, to describe it, capitalist.
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?

Hard to say, since there aren't alot of 1:1 parallels, but there are some that share many similar traits. I'll try, but o save time, I'll limit it to the Big Three:

>Orcs
Best fits would be Gamorreans and Khaleesh, as both are warlike, semi-Human species with a clan-based society and comparatively low tech level. Tusken *kinda* fit too. But if you are looking for the "Noble Savage" or "Capable of Existing in Civilized Society" kind of Orcs, ala Warcraft or Elder Scrolls, Wookiees wouldn't be a bad pick either.

>Elves
The Chiss and Arkanians fit the "Arrogant, Aloof, and Cultured" type.
If you want Dark Elves, then Pureblood Sith, Umbarans, Dathomirians, and Falleen wouldn't be bad choices.

But if you want to pull a Witcher or Dragon Age and prefer Elves to be the "Marginalized Minority" types, then Twi'leks are obvious.

>Dwarves
The Ugnaughts fit *alot* of Dwarfy traits, with being hardy tinkerers and workers with a strong honor-bound tradition (to the point that duels to the death are held when there are more specialists than job openings), that generally just want to be left in peace, and have a propensity for long facial hair. They are, by far, the closest fit, even if they technically pigs.
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>>85527725
Chisses are such obvious space drow. They even have the "one good drow who lives on the surface" thing going.
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>>85525735
"The Acolyte" is a secret program where force sensitives who never got picked up by the Jedi compete each other for some apprenticeship, at least according to the leaks.
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>>85524865
imperial warlord that wanted to rebrand his image.
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>>85527666
>I assumed RotS stood for "Rise of the Skywalker"
Are you fucking retarded? Christ is every Star Wars fanboy dyslexic or something?
ROTS = Revenge Of The Sith
TROS = The Rise Of Skywalker
you not only misplace the title in the fashion of an ESL pajeet phone center scammer but you commit the far worse crime of being ignorant of the Goddamn Episode III acronym! how can anybody but a bug-brained NPC fuck that up?
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all of my party are fucking mandalorian bounty hunters, REEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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>>85527908
>UM...DID ACTUALLY HUST FORGET THE ACRONYM OF LE HECKIN ALL TIME BEST STAR WARS EPISODE III 3 THREE
Shut the fuck up, zoomer. No one remembers because no one cares, because both are movies are shit.
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>>85527973
>person too young to remember ROTS calling other people zoomers
You have to be 18 years old to post here.
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>>85528022
>faggots gets butthurt people does remember ROTS
T. Born after 2000
No one else on Earth gives a shit
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>>85527959
Bust them with robe-wearing religious fanatics when they miss a payment on their phone bills.
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>>85527908
I haven't seen a spergout like this all summer.
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>>85527666
Probably to filter out all the Kyle Katarn answers, Satan.
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>>85528038
>get accused of being a zoomer because I remember a 17 year old movie
this makes about as much sense as calling me an unborn fetus because I remember Return of the Jedi
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>>85528189
oh my mistake, "The Return of Jedi"
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>>85528209
No it's Revenge of the Jedi
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>>85527772
Though Chiss aren't really Drow, since they aren't evil, just isolationist. They also lack the slavery and matriarchy aspects.

Like, all they have in common is that they are both underground dwellers with skin that has shades of blue.

Hapans and the Dathomirians are closer fits, if you ask me.
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>>85528189
>zoomer as a literal meaning instead of just a generic insult for younger people because it triggers them

ngmi
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>>85527959
Send Death Watch after them. Have the Beskar autists fight.
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>>85528088
hey dude don't joke about parking bills.
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>>85528220
no, it's Le Sacre du Printemps
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If you were tapped to run a show with the otherwise open instructions "show off Chiss military, capital ships, fighters, and characters so we can sell toys of them later - and don't alienate the suburban-mothers-of-preteens demographic", what would you do?
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>>85528304
I would show off Chiss military, capital ships, fighters, and characters while including a scene where a suburban mother of Chiss preteen is shot in the face.
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>>85528411
They're blue Imperials so I just have them use Imperial stuff.
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>>85521635
you mean like the ESB? you dumb motherfucker?
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>>85528544
Willrow Hood is a hero of the rebellion and I will not brook any slander against him.
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>>85528189
>zoomer because I'm absolutely seething because someone didn't remember the name of the movie that came out when I was a kid
Yes. No one else would care.
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>>85528304
lean hard in on the sky-walker stuff, how the Chiss are actively fighting a war against predators targeting their children, who are Special™ and Unique™, but also extremely conservative with a strong sense of family tradition
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>>85528304
Shows are cancer. I divert the funds towards making Chiss expansions for the war games and a new Unknown Regions RPG book.
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>>85528757
I think not considering aliens as people goes quite a bit beyond just being "extremely conservative"
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>>85528304
i wouldn't, chiss faggotry is about to overtake mandoautist
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>>85528812
>muh great families
>muh intrigues
>muh backstabbing
It will be Game of Thrones in space and the nitwits will love it.
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>>85528881
Yep, sounds like cancer. Just divert resources to tabletop materials instead. That way, people who are tired of Chiss bullshit can still experience the joys of splattering blue nerds with the power of Caveman Luke and his Wookiee terminators.
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>>85527959
how is this a problem, exactly?
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>>85527772
I think the Chiss fit the Dunmer more or less
>cultured and distant
>have a culture that’s alien to most of the known world
>forced to ally with the Empire not because of common interest, but out of necessity
new canon also gave them forehead ridges like Dunmer do
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>>85528868
Mandalorians started out as one enigmatic character with a popular design. They've gone on to regularly appeared in virtually every non-movie product across every era imaginable with countless new characters, plots, and sub-designs.

Chiss started out as one enigmatic character with a popular design. They've barely expanded beyond that original character, primarily in books all written by the same one guy, and basically the only designs associated with them are a single render from 20 years ago and a capital ship that's a traced Macross fighter.

>>85528881
I can't think of a single series inspired by the success of Game of Thrones that went on to be well received. Including Game of Thrones.
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>>85528922
The autism and Mary Sue bullshit may get tiresome. Then again, a GM can always throw a Jedi or ComStar at the clanners if they need to be humbled.
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>>85527959
every game i play most people are mary sue sith or mary sue imp intelligence, so.
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>>85520030
Question?
When Jaba was strangled to death by a darkside user in his own pleasure yacht.

Do you think he got a chubby?
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>>85522587
Problem with the Emperor appearing in Andor is that the series seems to be playing itself off as the "gritty and grounded SW show" but Palpatine is inherently campy, he's literally a dark wizard who enjoys being evil. I guess they could pull a Dune by downplaying Palpatine's cheese and emphasizing his menacing presence like Skarsgard's Baron Harkonnen.
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>>85529303
He's only going to show up as a hologram and Ian is going to give yet another great voice performance. That's all he should ever do in these shows with any Jedi.
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>>85528934
Ryloth is Morrowind, it's a desert that exports drugs and slaves. which it has a special permission from the Republic to keep, even though slavery is technically outlawed.
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>>85529303
The Palpatine hologram in Rebels established that Palpy portrayed himself in a sort of propagandized version where he's just an ordinary elderly politician, not an evil wizard in black hooded robes.
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>>85529377
Fucking retarded, he demonstrates the scars publicly in the movies and uses them for sympathy points, hiding them later is silly.
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>>85529377
This is literally the best addition of disney canon has made to the lore btw
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>>85529492
That only works for a bit before people are creeped out or turned off again.
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>>85529492
You're right. It's like a war veteran hiding his scars in shame, what the fuck?
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?
Have a pig-faced orc.
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>>85529377
He only does that for the kids. Anyone who was around at the end of the Clone Wars would've probably seen his ghoul face during his big RotS speech.
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>>85529522
He was just trying to mess with Ezra, who apparently never had the curiosity to put "Emperor Palpatine" into space google and see what he actually looked like beforehand.
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>>85522055
Ahsoka and Mandolorian are possibilities. He would fit into the Andor time frame but I doubt we will see him in live action until after FO2.

I'm kind of hoping Obi Wan 2 has him and Vos in it. Merrin and Asajj can come along as well.
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>>85519785
Never seen this before. Artist name?
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>>85526714
Cal Kestis is my choice. Plenty of options around him as he can go with anything except Empire.

Rebels Grand Inquisitor is my second choice.
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>>85529377
There is a line in Lost Stars, where the FemImp is shocked to see Palpatine because everyone knows he is older and more sickly than the posters but everyone has forgotten how much worse he looks since Mace almost killed him.
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>>85528599
Based

That's the Mando's Beskar he's saving. Without him Favreau and Filoni couldn't have saved the franchise.
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>>85529563
>Have a pig-faced orc
oxymoron
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>>85529760
>Cal Kestis is my choice.
i would kill just to have more glowbats in rebels

luke needs some buddies to hang around with, hanging around with wookiees all day is probably not good for his mental health
he might start growling and asserting dominance over anyone who gets near and tearing his opponents arms off

>cal cestis
>5hp, 2 courage
>speed 2, red defense die
>surge-less
>deflect, jump 1
>cal's lightsaber: 2R2W, pierce 2, impact 2
>slots: comm x1, force x 2, armament x 1
>cal's double lightsaber: 3R3W, pierce 2, impact 2
>cal has unique force upgrades that grant him charge, agile, surge:block, surge:crit, to represent his growth
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>>85529377
pretty sure he was doing that strictly to get Ezra to let him into the WBW, because kindly old man is a lot more trusting than goblin faced sorcerer
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I saw an IGN post saying that Gwendoline Christie said she'd love to play Phasma again

I think Phasma's cool so i'd be up for it plus she posses off lightsaber hero players in battlefront 2

that is all
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>>85530137
i'd happy to never see that ugly bitch in star wars again, or anything from the sequels, actually.
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>>85529721
Flick the Thief, artist draws lots of Star Wars and Warhammer stuff

>>85529848
>>85529377
>>85529492
>>85529495
>>85529519
>>85529522
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>>85529806
There's propaganda posters and news broadcasts of him conspicuously unscarred well before this appearance in the show and also shown in comics and mentioned in books. This isn't exactly unprecedented, as Josef Stalin infamously concealed the fact that he had a shorter arm and leg on one side than the other and a deeply pockmarked side of his face he preferred to have touched up in photographs or else filmed from the other side. Also there's the fact that Palpatine is an evil totalitarian dictator who wants to change history to keep the population dumb and under his thumb
>"we have always been at war with Eastasia"
>"the Jedi were always a fake religion, the Force doesn't exist"
>"what, scarred by Mace Windu? You think some fake wizard could hurt me? that's just an exaggeration of the real events, probably jedi propaganda; you're not falling for jedi propaganda are you comrade?"
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>>85529010
When me and a friend played imperials, we were a stormtrooper and a TIE pilot that we conscripted into Imp Intelligence because we saved the right officer during some boarding action against some droids on autopilot. Next thing you know we were on bodyguard and chauffeur duty to an astromech that was the actual spy. We sort of bungled our way into promotions and both agreed that if the Empire kept throwing medals at us we'd probably stay loyal.
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>>85528107
>Nature is finally healing
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>>85528922
Mandalorians are fags
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>>85523387
>the Hutts are the Dutch, and the Republic/Empire is the British Empire.

Begun the outer rim spice wars have!
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>>85519785
>What are the Star Wars analogues of the classic fantasy races?
The various near humans with a superpower are Elves (Sephi if you want to choose one specific representative)
Ugnaughts are Dwarves
Gammoreans are Orcs
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>>85522095
>Kylo is the most praised part of the ST
It's not because he's good. It's because he's the least awful.
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>>85521724
Cool your jets 40kid. The age of /tg/ being the warhammer containment zone are long since past and its now a virtue to haven to have not been tainted by GW's plagiarism party.
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>>85522496
>in comparison to Oscar Isaac and John Boyega blatantly saying fuck no to ever returning
Which is funny, because those two were the most hyped to star in the Star Wars movie back in 2015.
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>>85528227
>They also lack the slavery and matriarchy aspects.
Aren't they ruled by sassy magical lolis and see non-Chiss as "things"?
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>>85528304
It's be about a strong independent black woman who breaks the glass ceiling on Chiss patriarchy and also lectures about racism.

We'll call it Thrawn, but he'll be a side character and the protagonist's adopted brother.
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>>85531525
So, how long till Star Wars crashes and burns so hard it gets a Zaslav treatmemt?
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>>85524534
Nice session ! I will start my group soon, once we worked on a schedule, I hope to get my players into that kind of hijinx.
For the new "acquisition" of your player, I can see a few possibilities for adventure:
> they would need a forger/specialized hacker to get the papers and a matching transponder code for the ship. What if all the good ones worked for the pirates boss and don't want this kind of heat?
> even with the right papers, some of the pirated old "friends" could recognize the ship and decide to blackmail the crew or retake it to save the reputation of their organisation. Maybe the pirates boss will offer the player to keep the ship in exange for "a small work" or maybe the crew will want to repaint or customize the ship to hide it's origins?
> a family member of one of the abductee of the pirate is hot on their heels and want vengeance and freedom for it's kidnapped relative. He knows the ship but has no means of knowing it changed hand and he will try to extract the whereabout of its relative by any means necessary. You could make him a solitary badass bounty hunter or someone with more heart than reason and maybe your players will even want to help him find the pirate base and rescue the slaves they stached there.

I hope you find those suggestions usefull and that your next session goes as much off the rail as the previous. Enjoy :)
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Anybody else ever fuck around with the WotC TCG? Their community has been keeping it alive for nearly 20 years, I have to respect the dedication even if I've never actually played it much
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>>85530374
Kek
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>>85530137
>Phasma fags still exist
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>>85532862
Why not?

Chome hasn't stopped being cool, and Phasma hasn't randomly started having a personality or character arc to worry about.
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>>85531712
Take your jokes back to /pol/ then, and stay there while you're at it.
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>>85533215
>Hurr, turn your brain off and look at the pretty metal!
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>>85526086
Which reveals once and for all that the "movies are a *visual* medium fnar fnar" wannabe auteur faggots are morons who should always be ignored - the visuals could be the most stunning ever conceived and put to film, if they fail to tell a compelling story they're worthless, just a ridiculously expensive screensaver.
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>>85533309
Don't reply to bait. Do I have to teach you everything?
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>>85527565
>Yet you participate in society. Curious.
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>>85533423
But that's not what I'm saying at all.

"Turn your brain off" implies there's a story or character there, but that it's badly written, so you have to ignore it. There's no character or story to Phasma, just a concept of a stormtrooper officer in chrome. It's not poorly written, like say Rey. It's fundamentally unwritten; there's nothing there to even dislike. She has like two scenes, four lines, and nothing happens in them.
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>>85533423
Solution:
We, I mean Disney, make Alternate Universe SW movies with Dark Side Luke and pretend the ST never happened!

We can now use Talon and Maul, and Evil Jyn Erzo, and sexy evil Ahsoka as Ventress' secret apprentice, etc.
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>>85531500
Navigators are Force-sensitive girls who are the key to Chiss hyperdrives working yes, because they use the Force to plot hyperspace paths. They don't quite "rule" the Chiss though, they're just a huge secret in the Ascendancy as a key to letting them be the power that they are in the Unknown Regions.
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Reminder that this is how much line-of-sight blocking terrain you should be playing Legion with for balanced games. (Tables from Gencon)
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>>85533625
That's just fuck awful.
>>85533546
>But that's not what I'm saying at all
>Is exactly what it's saying
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>>85534077
positively mindbroken
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>>85534077
>That's just fuck awful.
Dude stop giving Disney ideas.
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>>85531500
>Aren't they ruled by sassy magical lolis
No, but magical loli's are their most powerful class.
>and see non-Chiss as "things"?
Thrawn is seen as a freak for acknowledging aliens as people.
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Question for you nerds:
I'm planing to give my player a cheap starfighter as a complement to there freighter base of operation (Galactic civil war era). I know of the Z-95 Headhunter and the M3-A Scyk but is ther other "starter pack" fighter out there I could use as an alternative?
No TIE, I prefer to make them Empire exclusive.
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>>85534909
>but is ther other "starter pack" fighter out there I could use as an alternative?
clone-wars era Y-wings?
the 2-seater ones
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>>85533798
more examples
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>>85535046
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>>85535046
>>85535056
>color coding squad bases
it's so simple and I'm such a fucking shithead for not thinking of it.
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Anyone got any images of alternative Black Sun and Pyke colour schemes?
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>>85534909
Y-wings of almost any sort
early-gen A-wings (typically called R-22 spearheads)
the swing-wing Z-95 variants
old-and-busted clone wars ships like ARC-170s, V-wings, or V-19 Torrents (torrents and v-wings don't have hyperdrive though)
scum builds like the Porax-38, HH87 Starhopper, Cloakshape, Havoc, Kimoglia, or Kihraxz, but ideally not the Mandalmotors ships, I'd consider those the next tier above these that you'd give them as a reward for in-game accomplishments, not a starter ship
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>>85535152
What counts as alternative for mercenary units that could believably come in any color under the sun?
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>>85535225
>>85535152
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>>85535225
True true, do like the crystals there.

>>85535235
Oh that's nice, might swing me to doing some darker pykes.
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>>85534945
>>85535172
This.
More or less spaceworthy Clone Wars leftover Y-wings with the Republic markings painted over and whose ID codes may or may not be on the Imp wanted list.

And if you buy them right now and get them out of my hangar in under 30 minutes, you get this mechanic that can keep them flying
>>85535152
and these two Twi'leks, too!
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>>85534909
cutlass-9 is a modest system fighter produced by SoroSuub in the years leading up to the clone wars. it's an older, last gen fighter, but its got modest shields, guns, a concussion missile launcher complement, and class 2 hyperdrives, and i think it looks pretty cool
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>>85535225
>>85535235
I haven't paid much attention to Legion, are these actual armies they sell or are these custom 3d printed builds?
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>>85535931
nigga...
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>>85535931
They're legit Atomic Mass productions for Legion.
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>>85535947
>>85535950
neat

>>85535936
fuck off, I stopped paying attention to FFG news when they dropped Armada, these days I only pay attention to pretty pictures people post of their army mans
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I think AMG is missing a massive cash cow for making a "yourdudes" character set for their factions, or for leaders/jedi characters.
They could legit pull the frostgrave approach and sell a mix-n-match sprue to build generic commanders or jedi characters and then have simple one size fits all cards to represent them in game play
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>>85535987
I think you're massively underestimating the actual financial potential of such a product. Even 40k leans heavily into named characters.
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>>85536023
>underestimating
Over*, of course.
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>>85536023
Bad analogy. 40K leans into named characters so they can shill books of those named characters, so they can recycle those named characters in a dozen different miniature iterations to resell. It's why GW released a dozen different Sauramon minis for the LOTR games, when literally everyone who knows LOTR already knows Sauramon. Turns out, if you're playing a game you need more generic-captains than Sauramons but that didn't stop GW making a dozen fucking molds of Sauramon
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>>85536096
My point is that even 40k is not the your-dudes utopia you think Legion could make bank by becoming, and Legion is an IP that's especially dominated by characters.
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>>85534945
>>85535172
>>85535825
Thank you for the list, I have some work to do now.
How could I forget about the brave Y-wing ?! The option to make it a 1 or 2 seater is great and it's role as a bomber is different from the rest, great rec !
What is the swing-wing Z 95 ? I don't seem to find anything on it...
The V-wing is another good choice, but I hate with a passion the V-19, hugly shit.

What about an old Naboo starfighter, stripped paint and exposed engine, like in the mandalorian? Or is it too much of an out dated design?
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>>85536324
>What is the swing-wing Z 95 ?
It's the Mk I version of the Z-95, most notable appearance being one of the Han Solo books.
>old Naboo starfighter
N-1s are still very good by GCW standards but they're not going to be cheap or easy to acquire. Naboo keeps an iron grip on the supply. Getting a party's worth of N-1s should be a milestone event in the campaign, because it's the equivalent of graduating from baby Z-95s to X-wings.
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>>85536112
Then take the 40k approach.... release the generic "yourdudes" box and make the rules better than named characters.
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>>85527959
For the record, the girl in the picture somehow survived and was reunited with her purple haired wife. Apparently the writer didn't get the memo on BOBF and someone had to clean up.
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>>85533798
Are there tournament regulations? Also, is that Landspeeder to scale with the Rebel expansion one?
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>>85522428
>Neimoidians
How is the Neimodian ladyboy market?
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>>85519785
What's the best Corps unit for Rebels in Legion? Are the vets from the Battle Force back worth it?
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>>85536407
Ok, thanks for the information. I think the final list will be:
>Z-95 Headhunter for the classic X-wing look and basique starfighter feel
>BTL-B Y-wing 2 seater for some cooperative shenanigans and bomber possibilities
>M3-A scyk for the customization and scrappy feel
>V-wing and Cutlass-9 if they want something different
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>>85536619
Acquire fleet troopers, engage the enemy at point-blank range with shotguns alongside Luke and his Wookiee friends.
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>>85536631
Maybe add in a couple of Tempest Heavy Bombers as well for some tandem bombing runs or for that one guy who'll want a B-wing.
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>>85536324
The Z95 used to look like this until it got retconned into a boring circumcised X-wing sometime in the 1990s
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>>85536755
the Republic Z95 from TCW is somewhat better than the standard EU Z95, but it's not as good as the swing-wing
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Is there any decent resources to expand and play in a Sith Empire? Closest I have is the Saga books for KOTOR and Legacy Era stuff. Something more like the TOR Era, maybe.
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>>85536868
There's a fanmade book for the TOR era
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>>85535426
What's /swg/s problem with humans and mandos? Star wars has always been human centric and mandos are cool.
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>>85536619
Rebel Troopers are the "best", in that they're a basic building block that gets used in most lists. They're cheap, flexible, well-rounded; your bread and butter Corps unit in a Corps-based game. Veterans and Fleets are both very good (Rebels are spoiled for strong Corps), but they're less swiss army knives, and more specialized at a certain role. Vets are very order-greedy, and only excel when they're a focus of your list (bringing their heavy weapon and their counterpart blaster unit), which changes the sort of list that likes to take them.
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>>85536713
Thanks! I hate it!
More seriously, I plan on running Operation Shantipole for SWD6 in the indeterminate future and my players are all Star Wars virgins so the more alien the B-wing looksthe better.

>>85536755
This is a shame. This was a great design, will add to the list
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>>85536994
its basically a shittier predecessor to the B-wing
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>>85536963
It was human-centric in the OT because of technological and budgetary limitations, PT made it more about aliens and Clone Wars made it all about aliens. Then of course the ST doubled down on humans hard, but everyone hates and wants to forget that shit.
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>>85536963
>mandos
Mandaboos....
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>>85536963
well the number one reason is that star wars fanboys are two-faced flip-flopping hypocrites who will go to any length to hunt for reasons to complain instead of enjoying the thing they claim to be fans of

the other reason is that, with scant exceptions, the casting choices for all Disney Star Wars products (and this extends even to video games, comic books, and novels) consists of
>vapid generic british brunette
>angsty white himbo
>as many outre references to pre-existing fan-favorite characters as possible, especially if deep-faked
>various assortment of token black gay asian communist muslim atheist jewish transsexual lesbian latinx pagan disabled autistic native american billboards for soapboxing the Cause of the Week to placate the braindead journalists
>at best, ONE significant character that's an alien or robot
Now I fully understand the reasons for real-world human inclusion in fictional settings, I'm perfectly fine with seeing more women and coloreds in Star Wars, but unfortunately, in an act of overcorrection THAT kind of inclusion has now all-but-fully replaced all appeals towards actual speculative fiction; where are the wookiee protagonists? the ewok protagonists? the twi-lek protagonists? the Duros, Sullustan, Dug, Geonosian, Mon Calamari, Quarren, Huttese, Ithorian, Nikto, Weequay, B-1 Battle Droid etc. protagonists? We've got K-2SO, Ahsoka, Zeb, and, if you can count "blue human", Thrawn. That kind of thing is just really depressing. It doesn't make me mad, just sad.
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>>85537321
>the twi-lek protagonists?
Are you fucking kidding me? Oh wait, Star Wars fans don't actually watch Star Wars, they only read the bare minimum about it on the Internet to complain about it.
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>>85537321
>where are the wookiee protagonists? the ewok protagonists? the twi-lek protagonists? the Duros, Sullustan, Dug, Geonosian, Mon Calamari, Quarren, Huttese, Ithorian, Nikto, Weequay, B-1 Battle Droid etc. protagonists?

Where were they under George? Certainly not in any of his films, and the most notable exception is one of the least popular characters he ever wrote.
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>>85537400
I don't think Chewie was that unpopular, or are you talking about Yoda?
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>>85537413
Jar Jar.
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>>85537477
No way, can't be Jar jar. Of all the alien characters introduced under Lucas, he wouldn't even make a top 10 of the most notable ones.
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>>85537495
Or the prequels, certainly. Of the OT, it'd be Chewbacca, who also appears in the sequels in an identical capacity.
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>“I’ve seen the first four [episodes of Andor] and it’s the most serious, grounded thing Star Wars has ever done. It feels more like an English-made espionage thriller than Star Wars. It is totally unconcerned with giving you fan service moments, and instead wants to delve into what it’s like for the bit players in this universe to wake up every morning and go about their day. This is not space opera. It’s more space drama. It’s slow, deliberate, complex (for Star Wars) and asks the viewer to do some work. It actually humanizes roles that are traditionally cartoon evil in the SW universe. It’s attempting to tell a grown up story, and I think a lot of fans are going to haaaate it. [Tony] Gilroy’s presence is all over this thing. It’s got that cinema verite vibe that the core Bourne movies had going for them. Puts you in the world like never before. Whether the world can hold up to that level of scrutiny is up for debate, but it is fascinating.”
>"The first three [episodes] are one complete story arc. A mini-movie."
>"When the reality [of a more grounded story] is heroes that act like villains, villains motivated by heroic impulses, and zero humor, we’ll see [if the fanbase likes it]".
>“Of the first 4 [episodes], Luthen and Mon Mothma are def the rebel MVPs. Andor is probably the least interesting character, but then they’ve got a long way to go to get him to the man we meet in Rogue One. There is much more interesting characterization going on on the ‘imperial’ side of things, and lemme tell you, it is fascinating to me. I kind of wish we got a whole show about that.”
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>>85537495
Jar Jar was intended to be the breakout character in TPM. George even said if they got Jar Jar working, he'd be the key to all of this.

Obviously he didn't get Jar Jar working.
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>>85537321
>they gave Cere a prequel comic instead of based Tapal
There is no justice.
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>>85537511
Yoda is way more prominent, and maybe even others like Duke Poggle or Watto. Jar jar has a Chewie-like role in the first movie, and then he vanishes off the face of the galaxy.
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>>85537543
>Andor is probably the least interesting character, but then they’ve got a long way to go to get him to the man we meet in Rogue One
In which he was also the least interesting character. Consistency is good, I guess.
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>>85537400
Chewbacca?

>>85537382
I will be the first to admit it when Disney Wars does a good thing. Rebels is one of the epitomes of the greatness that can be accomplished when people who love Star Wars get to make Star Wars. I love Hera, she's great, but she's just about the only twi'lek protagonist there is. You'd think considering how prolific and popular they are they'd have more screen presence aside from eye candy. Is she even going to be in the Ahsoka show? I haven't heard about her there. And she's only a side character in the shitty comic books and vidoe games. The only other twi'leks with anywhere near as big a role as Hera - and this includes the EU too - are Mission Vao and Darth Talon, with Cham Syndulla and Aayla Secura distantly behind.
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>>85537034
I know but I don't want a predecessor to every ships, that's how you get shit like pic related and I want B-wing to be there own thing. It's one of the most unique design of Star Wars, I want it to stay that way.
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>>85537648
No, Jyn was the least interesting character.
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>>85537668
One of the reasons they designed Hera the way she is, and not many other other Twi’lek females all around, was actually stated to be because they didn’t want to “perpetuate the stereotype of Twi’leks as sex objects for males” or whatever it was. Which is certainly arguable given how they aren’t actually all THAT prolific besides Oola, Aayla, and… I can’t actually think of any others. Maybe the one that tried to fuck Wedge in one of the X-wing books?
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>>85537913
Lyn Me, Koyi Mateil, Garsa Fwip (rip), Darth Talon, the two turquoise slave sluts Sebulba had, the bodysuited orange twilek in the Outlander Nightclub, one of the options for Jaden Korr in Jedi Academy...
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How well do you see bigger ships in Star Wars manoeuvring? Not just game abstractions, but the visual of it. For example, starfighters tend to be nimble, freighters can be quick if modded, and Star Destroyers/MC80s are invariably big and lumbering, but what about midrange bigger things like consular ships, Action VI freighters, Tantive IV? The Tantive IV in particular I really don’t think we get a good chance to see how nimble it is because in ANH it is limited by the tech of the time to model ships moving in a straight line (the Falcon had the same problem in ANH).
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>>85537956
I don’t recognise the first three ones at all, and Sebulba’s were unnamed so they may as well have been background noise to me. Got me on Talon and femJaden though, I completely forgot those two.
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>>85537970
It's called a blockade runner, one assumes it is nimble enough to run blockades. Plus it's like 90% engines.
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>>85537987
>I don’t recognise the first three ones at all
Garza was the exploding booba twilek, Koyi Mateil was a booba twilek at the opera house in Episode III where you heard the tragedy of Darth Bane the Big Guy, and Lyn Me was dancing next to Rystall and Greeata in Jabba's palace
>KOO NEE TANG
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>>85537956
Mandalorian had multiple twi's.
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New thread: >>85538143
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>>85538147
How about you use /swg/ and not this /swag/ shit?
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>>85536963
>mandos are cool
They're really not.
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>>85537543
>Andor is probably the least interesting character
Imagine my fucking shock.

What a waste of a character. Fucking CIS child soldier and he gets upstaged by his fucking snarky droid battlebuddy.
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>>85538019
Just here to say she aged so well.



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