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>>85439006

Blood Bowl, Necromunda, Middle-Earth Strategy Battle Game, Warcry, Epic, Warmaster, Underworlds, Aeronautica, Mordheim, Titanicus, Battlefleet Gothic, Man-o-War, Warhammer Quest, GorkaMorka, and any other GW system and boardgame are welcome.

There is currently a Kill Team General >>>/tg/ktg. Discussions for the Kill Team should go there.

>We are working on a mega archive with the rulebooks for the boxed and specialist games (don't share).
rebrand<dot>ly/gwsg-repo
>Drop any missing files you might have here:
rebrand<dot>ly/dropofpolish
>Current MESBG rules:
>you know what to put
/folder/HcwzEQ7S#eX_2_U5IvOdqvea1Dpa5Mw/folder/eB4CzDJA
>Old links:
https://pastebin.com/dk8SFxht

>TQ
What changes would you make to /yourgame/ if you had the chance?
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>>85505849
>TQ
I reserve my complaints until we've seen everything for Warcry 2.0, but I will say that I think the -2" movement for treasure-carriers in the new edition is a (well-intentioned) mistake that disproportionately fucks over slower fighters while barely affecting the extremely fast models that new rule was obviously intended to neuter. I'd probably change it to lowering the maximum movement distance to like 5" or something for a treasure carriers, so that it doesn't do anything to hamper the low-to-medium movement fighters at all.
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>>85506195
it's -2" movement to minimum of 3" so the slow warbands are not afected
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>>85506261
The SLOW slow warbands are unaffected but the many factions stuck with mostly mediocre-but-technically-playable movements of 4"-5" are disproportionately affected by the new rule, while factions with 10" move models more or less skid by basically unaffected, going from 10" to 8" really isn't that big of a deal.
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>>85506195
Reactions will be a much bigger problem. Yesterday’s reveal for Destruction shows we’re about to have a terrible time. You are allowed to basically sacrifice an action of any weak chaff model and use another one’s attack instead, as long as they’re within 3 inches. This will be so broken I refuse to believe it was playtested in any way by anyone competent with turn-based games. And then look at all the Reactions they gave to Order Factions. Borderline useless in comparison, D6 dmg maybe if your model gets killed vs a small model giving away his action to a 250+ points model, so it can attack for free. There is no limit to that too, that model could attack 6 times in one turn if you stack a blob.
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>>85506442
As I said I'm waiting to see the full breadth of the new content, but I feel lucky being essentially in the position of "new content arbiter" for my group, such that they won't jump ship to the new edition without my go ahead.
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>>85505849
>TQ

Snotlings gain an extea special rule

>Too Weedy
>Unlike snotlings and Trolls, most players would not be seen dead playing with a snotling team. Barring the right price. Any Star Players hired by a snotling team cost double their price to induce.

This is mainly to stop the flagrant abuse of Morg and Hakflem on snotling teams without completely restricting them from hiring stars.
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Can you play the khorne team in 6th edition or do you need to remove/fix some stuffs?
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>>85505849
If you as a human found a gretchin by itself before it integrates into Ork society do you think you could be friends with him?
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>>85507087
Don't all orkoids have knowledge that is passed down genetically (oddboyz and such)?
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>>85507109
Yeah but Grots aren't particularly coded to anything except for trying to make Orks not beat them too much and generally help and tinker with things and seem to be pretty independent otherwise
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>>85505849
>TQ

>Special strikes are out of MESBG for good. Some heroes may gain access to them through a special rule.
>Two handed weapons get different rules. It could either be increased cost (2 points each for regular troops), lose the -1 penalty to Duel roll, and give +1S instead of +1 to the die roll when wounding.
>Tone down every OP LL, and bring back the old style of creating army lists (no need for heroes to bring extra troops, no retarded ass army bonuses that can be comboed into "I GET +3 TO WOUND AND 5 REROLLS"). But that's only because I'm nostalgic for the old MESBG
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>>85508554
>no need for heroes to bring extra troops
Full retard.
Having to bring troops in warbands has been the best part about the current edition by a mile. So many mediocre heroes are now attractive. And you need more than just one megahero to run an army. Games are more than just spamming a truckload of cheap warriors.
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>>85505849
I would remove The Hobbit armies from the pool.
In fact I am doing so in our incoming hosted tournament, plenty of salt farmed from competitive hardcore gamers
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>>85508659
Holy based.
Lake Town waacfags and Iron Hills paypiggies on suicide watch
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>>85508636
Perhaps you're right. Maybe it was because back then my friends and I would make not-WAACfag lists anyway, we would never go over 40 troops (unless we were playing Moria), and had a lot of fun. Nowadays it's all about having the most broken combination of combos and shit.

>>85508659
>>85508701
Based. Dalefags BTFO
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>>85508751
So if the current system is exactly how you used to play anyways, why would you want to give the option to make the atrocious spamlists? Have you even played against Goblin Town my man? The game doesnt work when you have like a hundred models on the board.
>broken combinations
Such as?
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I know the warcry rules for the new nurgle warcry lads were leaked, but do we know what their AoS rules are yet? I am wondering if they will be another slaves to darkness cultist squad or will be in Maggotkin.
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So, Rivendell focus? Second age high elves redo incoming?
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>>85509082
New Haldir and company?
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>>85509082
>what they should make
New warrior box with sword&shield and spear&shield options.
New ~80p Hero of Valor with 3 Might so they get some actual build options.
>what we'll get
Something completely irrelevant like Lindir on horse.
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>>85509095
Wait was Haldir's company just from Lothlorien or did it include some Rivendell elves?
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>>85507407
Yeah, they would kill the fuck out of us for our teeth and our tech if given the chance.
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Finished the halflings players of the Humble Hazelnuts team! Will paint the two treemen and tokens in the next day
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>>85509115
I’ll take an armored mounted Glorfindel and official mounted Gil Galad as well

Would love the aforementioned HoV and maybe 1 new troop choice, but I can’t really think of anything specific
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>>85509854
erry noice
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Does anyone have the Warcry 2.0 scenarios in a pdf or image album?
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>https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/JJGycdp3gtzxNaoE.pdf
Warcry Death is out, Chainrasps are such a fucking meme it's not even funny. Grave Guards have half their cost for double the power. Insane algorithm.
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>>85509115

>New warrior box with sword&shield

This is what scares me away from a Rivendell or Lothlorien project. Spear elves with shields. Sword elves with nothing making up the front rank. Sure you could just stick shields on their backs but it will look like ass.

It feels like GW doesn't even play their own games, sometimes.
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Blood Bowl question : I have enough room to get 10 teams, and yet I have 7 : Humans, Orcs, Skavens, Dwarfs, Elven Union, Goblins and Halflings.
So what are some must-have teams to discover everything BB has to offer? For exemple, I don't think I need the wood, dark or high elves as I already own EU.
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>>85508659
Sure Jan, then everyone clapped and decapitated Benicio del toro
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>>85509036
>I am wondering if they will be another slaves to darkness cultist squad or will be in Maggotkin.
They weren't in the leaked STD tome so they're almost 100% going to be part of Maggotkin.
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>>85510269
Wow, they really did Chainrasps dirty. Literally no reason to ever take Chainrasps when Dire Wolves are so much better for the same points + have rampage as a reaction.
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>>85510815
Slann, Ogres, Lizardmen.
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working on my ROHAN
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>>85510815
You need some flavor of Undead. Disposable zombies backed uo by scary bois is quintessential Blood Bowl.
Shambling if you are basic, Necro if you like speed, Khemri if you are a Chad.
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>>85509082
well i posted it last thread fw is releasing rumil and orophin
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>>85512920
and? they're Lothlorien
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>>85510815
An undead team:
Undead or necro

Mutations:
chaos or chaos pact (or just mix your rats and gobs for underworld)

Frenzy:
Norse or Khorne

0-6 blockers with more fragile linemen:
Lizards or chorfs
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>>85510815
Necromantic!
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Theres a Kill Team store championship coming up, whats the best team to play rn?
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So what's looking like the best way to do an OBR warcry team? I haven't played since the start of the first edition, so I have no idea how to incorporate all the heroes and stuff
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>>85515096
There's a kill team general, go ask there.

But short answer is sisters novitiates
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My local GW has the Red Harvest box in stock, is it worth it for the terrain? I'm looking to build a Mordheim board.

>also, how do I build a good nighthaunt warcry team
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>>85510815
Ogres so you can experience putting 6 big guys on the los, also any undead team not called Vampires
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>>85515111
While they only move 3", the basic mortek are so cheap now that they can pretty effectively flood the board. Stalkers are still the factions bread and butter IMO, they're very respectable big nasty bruisers. The morghasts got revamped into proper cruise missiles, they're a legit pick too. Honestly not super impressed with many of the leaders, so getting 3 hero slots feels kinda wasted on them unless you're incorporating allies.

Personally I'd probably take the dirt cheap mortek leader so I could have more points to spend on stalkers or mortek guards.

>>85515293
>My local GW has the Red Harvest box in stock, is it worth it for the terrain? I'm looking to build a Mordheim board.
It's themed after a Chaos slave mining encampment, personally I don't think it's really themed well for the actual city of Mordheim. Could maybe work for a Norsca campaign type of deal or something?

>also, how do I build a good nighthaunt warcry team
The dreadblade harrow is Nighthant's new MVP hero option, pretty convenient they come in a cheap-ish ETB two-pack. From there I'd probably fill out the rest with dreadscythe harridans - most of the fighters in the faction are still mediocre/overcosted, but these ladies are actually pretty respectably stated relative to their points. 2 dreadblades and 5 dreadscythe's fills out a list very nicely. Alternatively pick up some spirit hosts and dire wolves if you want a little more variation - dire wolves are just so much better than chainrasps for the same points there's really no reason to ever take the basic ghosts.
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>>85511454
>>85515592
>Ogs
>recommending worst team in BB history
Surely thoust jest.
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>inb4 Iron Golems are revealed and they're still shit
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>>85516380
>he hasn't played BB2020 Vampires

And Anon did specifically request teams to cover the full range of Blood Bowl experiences, and Ogres certainly are an experience like no other.
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>>85517959
So do people now play 7th edition? I'm sitting at 2016 edition because I don't want to redo all my team cards on photoshop
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>>85518040
>team cards
?
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>>85518040
>now
People have been playing the 2020 edition happily since release. While there's an extensive amount of valid criticism for it, it also has really good ideas as well.
The entire redrafting mechanic is a great system if people want to keep playing the same team league after another.
Rolling for random skills is fantastic when a worthless lino gets the MVP.
ClawPOMB not being a thing is purely an improvement.
Kick-off changes like removing thrown rock is frankly something that should have been done ages ago.
And while separating passing to its own skill has been weird, at least teams now pick a Thrower.
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>>85518271
I made my own since GW asked for 20 bucks
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my chorf 7's team is 7 hobs and a mino with 1 reroll. Decent or can it be made better?

1 reroll is a hard requirement.
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>>85518569
Huh, never seen anyone use even the GW ones. Whats the point? Teaching completely new players?
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>>85518920
exactly. I'm teaching 4 different friends how to play it and they found the cards you get in the 2016 box very handy, way more than the team sheet I also did.
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Hey guys.

Friends and I are tarting to play BFG.

We've quickly realised that Necrons are ludicrously more powerful than other factions and were wondering if there was a fan made, widely accepted ruleset that is available?

I understand Mordheim has something like that for its competitive scene, with fan made updated and balanced rules. Just looking for something equivalent to that.

Thanks!
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>>85519914
Just dont play Necrons?
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>>85519953
It's already in the plans yes, but now that we've seen such discrepancies, we were wondering if the rest of the rules were okay.

Is it all good otherwise?
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>>85510815
Dark Elf for a killer team with unorthodox non bash tactics, Snotlings because they're just fun and impossible to get mad while playing, Chaos for mutations since you already have goblin and rat models, chaos warriors are always the most fun to paint. you could also consider Nurgle for the literal cancer all over the pitch, bit rougher to paint but you feel damn good if you paint them well.
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>>85520184
>when you run into a nurgle team who actually knows how to defend
>can't pass because smell of literal shit
>can't block cause too ugly
>can't run away cause hentai monster

Literally impossible
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>>85519960
The community homebrew with alternating activations is really neat.
BFG2020 if I recall correctly.
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>>85515111
L A C H E
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>>85510815
Old World Alliance
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>>85520506
Thank you! I saw a mention of it when browsing, alternate activations could be really nice.
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>>85518346
Redrafting rules suck and my group never uses them. You simply keep the teams going as it sucks when you have a cool unique player emerge only for him to to have to fuck off or your team doesnt work. I get that it represents your team not being able to afford a god tier player when its a sunday league tier team. But it doesnt make sense for your team actually moving up the 'leagues'.
>Not mentioning the best change which is passign agility being added
This addition caused the most uproar and team development/drafting changes as it stopped all elf teams being god tier at throwing and actually made the throwers in such teams a valid pick rather than having lineman be better beyond a free reroll.
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>>85509082
>Second age high elves redo incoming?
Really hope so. The current Gil-galad model looks so shit.
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>>85518040
I just introduced a guy to the game and I'm using the 6th edition rules perfected by Jervis.
If you're interested in jumping back into the whole GW ponzi scheme of buying rules updates every few months or couple of years, then by all means enjoy yourself!
But this is a game that was refined by it's creator as a passion project for free and THAT rule system has been playtested for well over a decade by millions of coaches, Why pay to go back to beta testing?
Also, picrelated I just painted up a new Mino for my Chorf team, the StarPlayerMiniatures team is great but the Mino they have with it is fucking huge, particular his arms which prevent pieces from being set up beside him, this cowgirl is much better in that regard.
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Also painted up a Rashnak Backstabber
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and a Nobbla Blackwart
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Spent the last week or so adding details and extras to my pitch as well, more pics to follow.
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>>85521692
Some weapons leaning against the herdstones to make them look proper
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>>85521706
Security guards/doormen near the intended entrance for fans, this guy is mirrored on the other side by a slightly different buddy and slightly different set of weapons.
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>>85521725
Joseph Bugmann chilling out behind where the cheerleaders get set up.
Single most expensive piece on the board by far btw, the grass tufts altogether come in second and then I am pretty sure everything else on the pitch (including the foamboard base!) added together is almost as much as the tufts were.
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>>85521755
his much less glamorous, far cheaper employee actually working on the other half of the pitch.
painted with two colours, two washes, and a drop of white to make edge highlight tone changes.
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>>85521775
The other guard
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>>85521798
More herdstone weapons, a nod to the WHFB/40K connection with some some power weapons and a necron staff/spear
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>>85521816
Then I decided the ground needed some colour here and there, so I made some mushrooms out of lentils and snipped bits of paperclip.
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>>85521835
which you can see here next to one of the herdstones in full.
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>>85521863
and here next to the concession stand
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>>85505849
Just checked out the blood bowl resources in the OP link, the new pitch rules in the spike journals for Khorne & Norse are really cool. Is there stuff like this for the other races? t. Dark Elf player
>>85521890
high quality stuff anon, very soulful.
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>>85521890
and last for now, here next to the other herdstone.
I liked these mushrooms so much that I intend to do a bunch more in a tan colour to add in with some scattered jagged rock spires
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>>85521916
Thank you very much!, have a bonus experimental Willow Rosebark I am not sure if I like or not.
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>>85521916
And yes, the 3rd edition spike magazines as well as the other 6th edition spike journals should have some more pitch rules for most, if not all, the other races.
You'll have to look though, can't remember what is where.
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Chaos pdf is out.
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/04/free-warcry-rules-for-your-grand-alliance-chaos-warbands/
Pretty substantial changes to the 8.8 in particular. Whips got buffed from total dogshit into the fucking stratosphere.
Also, new cost of the Blissful One at 255 is pretty damn rough.
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>>85521454
Your minis look rad anon, my only quip is the minotaur isn't THICC looking like he is on roids. Nobbla looking tight, it is a crime GW hasn't brought him back. Or Ripper...still miss you big guy.
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>>85522146
Fuck me, so many changes. I have like 5 Bespoke Warbands and BoC and Khorne Mortals to that to play with. Whip Meta will be interesting, never ever used the whips before.

Iron Golem used to be my dudes when I started, now let’s see if they still suck dick.
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>>85521956
You willow looks bloody slick man. Damn shame her rules stink.
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>>85521692
>>85521706
>>85521725
>>85521755
>>85521775
>>85521798
>>85521816
>>85521835
>>85521863
>>85521890
>>85521918
>>85521956
Very nice work Anon.
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>>85521725
>security guard
>for a BB stadium

I assume this is the second highest turnover besides refs?
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So after amazons, what new plastic team can we hope for?
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>>85522146
>that Ogroid Myrmidon reaction
>if you attack him, but miss, he straight up fucking impales you
>Toughness 6
I saw them going out of stock soon, better fucking grab myself one.
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>>85522376
Since they are doing old teams we either get a new team OR chorfs/vamps/high elves

I hope they bring back Helves or Vamps first. Both need tuning, vamps urgently.
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>>85522469
If some dude took a swing in the hopes of killing you and missed, I am sure you would do the exact same thing!
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>>85522498
It’s even funnier when you consider the fact, that Myrmidon is on average 3 times taller than most of the mortal warriors in Warcry. Imagine a manlet faggot talking shit, as you effortlessly squash him like an insect that his 5’9 ass is.
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>>85522560
Sounds like members of Warcry warbands have a serious lack of self preservation.
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>>85522284
They /are/ midget beastmen, probably not there by choice.
Those models make some of my dwarfs look tall, without a hat.
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>>85522146
>>85522185
>Iron Golem used to be my dudes when I started, now let’s see if they still suck dick.
Iron Golems seem a lot more viable now, the extra wounds + extra attack on pretty much everyone really does a lot for them. No movement buffs and only one 5" move fighter still means they're probably never going to be THAT strong, but they seem like a solid B-tier team now.
Definitely going to be happy to jam them while I work on painting up my Rotmire warband.
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>>85522184
>the minotaur isn't THICC looking like he is on roids.
>he
Look again anon!
>>85522196
I made it from a reaper mini I got in a $4 a piece bin, I don't even have a team that can run her =P
>>85522235
TYVM, I am working on the extra shrooms I mentioned right now, spotted some tiny shells in glass jars too and I am perculating an idea for an ecosphere of herbivore and carnivore snails. Just a few overall but key placement and the modelling of one or two munching shrooms, and one munching another snail (with different shell types) will tell a grand little story.
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>>85522652
>Minotaur is a girl.

My excuse is I am visually impaired and I still stand by my original statement!
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>>85522707
It is SIGNIFICANTLY less bulky than the one it is replacing, which looks more and more like it is half gorilla with those arms the more I look at it, they are longer than it's legs!
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>>85522818
Fucking hell your photo quality is A+. NOW THAT is the type of Mino I am talking about. The paintjob is A tier on both, but that bulk. UMPH!
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>>85522857
Unfortunately that bulk looks great on display but works like shit on the pitch.
The cheap reaper mini mino I have converted is a much better /playing/ piece.
And thank you, the photo quality is all on that cheap plastic box with a foam floor/background though, cheap ($10) photobooth kit you can get from china on ebay.
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>>85522897
Ah yeah that reminds me when a friend of mibe used Deeoroot and I knocked him over. We also lacked a coin or token at the time. Looks great, not practical.

I have heard of the foam box method for photos, but does it also matter about the camera itself or can you just use a mobile?
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>>85523045
I'm just using the cheapest android that was available to me when I broke my old one beyond repair a year ago.
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do any of you kidfucking pedophiles want to come over to my basement and play blood bowl? I promise I won't drill into your skull and turn you into a sex zombie and then fuck your stabwounds
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>>85510904
Attention gamers: seething Iron Hillsfag detected
bet you play with unpainted minis too
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>>85523586
Based as fuck Anon. Fuck the Hobbit armies.
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>>85522146
good god they shoved the whole skaven battletome in there
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>>85508659

We did a tournament like this and three guys from out of town brought Hobbit stuff and left in a huff. One had Iron Hills, one had some kind of Laketown horde mostly out of historical minis and Reaper Bones, third had all these Mirkowood elves made of resin with weapons bending all over the place.

Gatekeep your hobbies or you'll lose them, friends.
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>>85522146
Warcry should have never been about anything other than eightpoints chaos tribes, including all the armies in the game was retarded
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>>85508659
>>85524682
Not a LOTR player here, what's wrong with iron hills armies?
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>>85524947

They're overly powerful and look like World of Warcraft poo with stuff like chariots pulled by giant goats.
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working in progress on my Rohan/Fiefdoms split
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>>85524947
Gameplay wise nothing. Its just that like other Hobbit stuff it just looks pretty terrible.
They also get a bad rep from mediocre players because Iron Hills is a super onedimensional army that is practically monobuild, very simple to play and decently powerful. So a complete pleb can pick it up and perform well against badly put together armies from players who dont know what they're doing.
Among experienced players its mid to low tier like all dwarves.

Every game has some simple pubstomp army that casuals complain about regardless if its actually overtuned or not (and in this case its absolutely not)
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>>85524947
dogshit visual design and ridiculous gear that doesn't fit the setting at all
I get especially salty about hobbit armies because prior to the mesbg faction rule change were factions became more solid one of my favourite armies was a dwarf army i themed as being war of the ring erebor dwarves
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>>85508659
>>85524682
ah, the secondaries make themselves known
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>>85525420

I did the same thing. Khazad-dum style dwarves painted with extra gold(on armor etc) since Lonely Mountain would be filthy rich.

It's kinda funny too, in the early 10's I thought the game would be dead forever since no one seemed to be interested in the hideous Hobbit figures. Even missed out on a chance to get MESBG figures for 75% off when an LGS closed down.
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>>85525534
>Khazad-dum style dwarves painted with extra gold

in terms of official scenarios and army lists, can khazad-dum minis match the profiles of the hobbit dwarves?
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>>85522624
Drill master is *still* the MVP by a distinct margin, but the other guys seem a lot more viable overall.
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>>85522146
Jesus Christ, the Unmade must have fucked someone's mom to end up like that.
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>>85522146
Did they nerf all the flagship warbands lmao, that's so fucking funny.
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>>85527644
No, most of them got pretty nice buffs.
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>>85527657
At a glance how did STD come out?
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>>85525933
Yeah they all seem weirdly overcosted. Maybe they're charging them a premium for everyone in the warband having access to the immobilization ability? Seems pretty rough.
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>>85527974
Just skimming the profiles they seem pretty nice. Chaos Warriors are a lot cheaper now, definitely something you can build-around in a way you couldn't really before. With mounts being able to climb stairs a bunch of their mounted options are pretty attractive as fast aggressive fighters as well.
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>>85527974
Heroes got a fairly harsh thwacking with the nerfstick, but even factoring in ToC 21 the massive drop in cost, especially for Warriors, is pretty sweet.
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>>85525700
Absolutely, but I think the big takeaway is with your mandatory leader not being dead weight and the rest of your fighters all being at the very least reasonable (well, maybe not the dwarf, but he's at least aggressively costed for those combat stats) goes a long way to making the faction feel better to play even just out-of-the-box; aside from maybe the aforementioned dwarf, I don't think there's a single fighter here casual timmy is going to feel bad about running, and that's a great thing for a bespoke factions when they serve as the face of the game.
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Pretty tempted to get a box of Slaangors, they look too cool not to use, but their rules in AoS are wretched.
I already have Slakeslash from Underworlds, so there'd be a start. That said, I have no idea what to do with the leftover points.
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>>85528350
>mandatory leader
Speaking of which, the Heart-Eater got a nice buff.
But apparently GW was not very enthused Unmade players were running multiple Blissful Ones. 255pts is mad, even if the damn thing is a scary good fighter.
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>>85528484
>I already have Slakeslash from Underworlds, so there'd be a start.
Pretty sure the UW fighters aren't legal this edition yet unless you want to houserule them in with your buds. Even if that's not on the table though, he still makes a perfectly fine 4th Slaangor - or considering he's a special sculpt, maybe a 2nd Slake-Horn.
>I have no idea what to do with the leftover points.
So what you do with those points is going to largely depend on how willing you are to source/convert a bunch of Blissbrew Homonculi. It's a one-of model in the blissbarb archer box but now that it has rules it's the warbands only cheap chaff options, and it's actually fine in that role - it has the same boring but flexible stat block as plainsrunners/ghouls. 4 of those little bastards would get you to 970 points and a respectable 8 models, though with that many left over points it'd probably be worth considering dropping a Homonculus and upgrading it to a...
>the next cheapest fighter is 95 points, 10 over what you have to work with
What the fuck.

Well, if I had no restrictions on money or models, I'd consider something like the following:
>Slake-Horn (225) x2
>Fiendblood (175)
>Slickblade Seeker (155)
>Homonculus (55) x4
8 models and 1000 points on the dot. Gives you a reasonable action economy, good killing power, and the one-of cavalry gives you some nice speed and his combat profile isn't abysmal either, though not as exciting as the Slaangors.
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So what are you all looking at running for gloomspite in the new warcry, I only recently started playing so I'm kinda retarded with the profiles. Was thinking of trying a bunch of squigs and netters with a squig hopper boss
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>>85529406
I'm not as keen on squigs this edition. In 1.0 they were fine cheap elites but in 2.0 they're kinda meh demi-elites/high-end infantry. Honestly I think the classic 2-4 squig riders + gobbo chaff (with at least a few netters) is probably the best way to go.
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>>85521916
>>85521971
from what i've gathered, GW has been selling racial pitch packs and apart from some mentions in the spike journals, the rules are on the boxes they come in. But it seems nobody has posted those rules anywhere I can find them.
The spike journals that seem to mention them are Lizardmen (#7), Necromantic (#11), Khorne (#13) and Norse (#14) for those interested. Some of the others mention some rules, like the kick off table for halflings, but not the pitch. It's just GW sales strategy as per usual.
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>>85529863
Then take a look at the 3rd edition spike /magazines/
The rules are compatible with 6th and should be with the 7th stuff too.
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How are the undead teams if I've never played Blood Bowl before?
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>>85530518
Necromantic Horrors is a great starter since it's one of the only teams that's viable out of the box without adding anything else
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>>85505849
So assuming the WarCom newsletter was wrong and GW probably isn't going to drop the core rules for free, are there any anons lined up to bite the bullet and scan the new rulebook?
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With all these warcry rules the PDFs are fucking huge and read like dogshit

Has anyone compiled them into one PDF and compressed it so it's usable?
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>>85521435
What model is this that you butchered with a dogshit paintjob
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>>85522624
I crushed every campaign I was in and won multiple gold medals with my iron golems

S K I L L I S S U E
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>>85531624
Yeah, they load like shit on my phone. Who optimized these?
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>>85531670
I think these are the files GW sends to the printers so they're ultra-HD which is why they're fucked up
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>>85531662
I'm surprised I'm not the only one desu.
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>>85531710
holy shit your real name is actually Anon?
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>>85531731
Yes, I am Anon. Anon 4chan.
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>>85531743
his name is my name too, whenever we go out, the people always shout
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>>85528239
>>85528098
By the sounds of it their leaders took a hit in regards to power, hurting them a lot but now you can actually make a semi viable Chaos Warrior warband to compensate for the hero nerf. Sounds good to me so long as they remain decent.
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>>85529863
the dark elf pitch rules are the same as in the recent BB3 beta.

If a touchdown is scored during the first half by any team, during the second half:
-when a player recovers from being stunned: roll a D6. on a 1 that player is still stunned for another turn
-All players suffer -1MA to a minimum of 3
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>>85524947
Elite, well costed troops that overperform in all fields and basically have no "punishes", really strong goat cav with knockdown ability, the best ranged crossbowmen in the game, area of effect siege weaponry spam, and one of the most powerful heroes (Dain Ironfoot). Their heroes have one of the best and rarest habilities in the game (Master of Battle) which allows them to copy for free special actions performed by enemy heroes (and they must spend a scarce resource to perform said actions).

Basically it's an autoplay army, with no wrong choices involved, tough and forgiving because your basic troops fight well and have the best armor in the game. Dain, heroes and cavalry are so killy it's absurd.
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>>85525534
Based. Comfy shire-houses too
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>>85531936
probably because any warband can take a leader from another warband as an ally
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>>85530518
Shambling Undead is top tier and fairly beginner friendly
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>>85531710
The Furgeburn?
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>>85531984
You're overselling them.
They pay for their stats. 12 points a model is no joke. The heroes are expensive and even at 700-800p you just have Dain, a captain and a ballista pretty much. If the opponent has the tools to shut down Dain (like magic) its all over. Or if the scenario favors splitting up.
Its a dwarf army so its slow as shit. F4 across the board with such elite force aint great.
And there's plenty of tools to cut through the infantry. Cav knockdown negates the shieldwall and with lances a regular cavalry model is wounding them on 5s. Heroes with any sort of bonuses to wound absolutely love to cut through Iron Hills dwarves because you're netting so many points and breaking the army fast.
And as for ballista since its on a good army the instant lines clash its pretty ineffective. You cant target spear supports thanks to the FAQ so its not gonna have many targets.

>Basically it's an autoplay army, with no wrong choices involved, tough and forgiving
This is the crux of it. Its a simple army that plays itself. But its not a powerhouse.
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>>85532098
im going to furge a new sister for you by giving your mom's vagina friction burn
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>>85532098
I'm training to be a teacher so my writing has to steadily degrade until it's nigh-illegible. It's part of the deal, please understand.
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>>85532138
those who can't do, teach
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>>85532138
Still fairly early on that career path, I assume? Put your back into it, I can still read almost everything.
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>>85531710
What team would you run now? Whips are much better, so Chain-Gang, Leader and one Breacher?
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>>85532568
>What team would you run now?
I'm not exactly invested enough to really want to optimize them much further than I already have (converted an extra Drillmaster for the warband awhile ago) so I'll be running the following list:
Dominar x1
Breacher x1
Drillmaster x2
Armator x1
Iron Legionary x3

Had I the models I'd probably swap the basic Legionaries for the bolas variant for the sake of flexibility.
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>>85532644
So the same build I’d use. Maybe I’d drop the Chorf and one Legionary to squeeze in a thematically fitting Ally that offers some interesting ability.
I really hate that change with 3 Heroes allowed now, forces you to run 3 heroes + chaff to be competitive. Boxed warbands were not designed with this concept in mind.
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>>85532730
>Maybe I’d drop the Chorf and one Legionary to squeeze in a thematically fitting Ally that offers some interesting ability.
I'd be wary of going any lower in model count, 8 is already on the lower end of a "mid-size" warband.
>I really hate that change with 3 Heroes allowed now, forces you to run 3 heroes + chaff to be competitive
I don't know if that's necessarily the case. I've noticed a fair amount of heroes have been nerfed, likely as a preemptive move to make them less enticing to run out-of-faction. In my own builds I've been brainstorming I've yet to find one where I've wanted to put something in the 3rd hero slot. I haven't given all the profiles a good look yet though, are there any stand out "must-run" allies in Chaos?
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About to make a mordheim warband; either witch hunters or mercs.
I'm new to gaming, mostly just enjoy painting and conversion.
What are fairly (not scummy) competive builds? are there websites with pre built lists or do you guys have any? That's a bit over the top obviously, but I'd really appreciate some pointers
also if 400 gc the normal value for a starting warband?
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Something's happening.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/the-great-rift-hits-necromunda-and-stokes-the-flames-of-rebellion-in-a-new-narrative-expansion/
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>>85533517
>desperate scramble for power between Nobles, Clans, Guilds, rebels, mutants, cults, nomads, outcasts
>dark prophecies
Mutants warband perhaps?

>wasteland sieges
How would you even do a siege with Necromunda's scale?

>50 pages of lore
Shotgun not being the one to read it.

>suited to a mix of Ash Wastes, Sector Mechanicus, and Zone Mortalis battles
>change the face of Necromunda forever – assuming it survives
what
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>>85533570
They will advance the story like in 40k
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>>85533627
Dear god no.
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>>85533517
So in a campaign if 1 gang have vehicles and another doesn't. Is the one without a vehicle just going to have a bad time or is it still somewhat "balanced" ?
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>>85533517
>>85533627
>Necromunda is being storified
Fuck.
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>>85533652
Like, on the reg? The ones without vehicles are gonna probably stomp those with a vehicle, since they are generally not very good.
In the ashwastes the speed of vehicles is useful, but even there it's generally not very tricky to just hammer them with your ranged weapons.
Well, CGC are kinda in a difficult spot if they can't set up one of their crazy charges and chainsaw that vehicle to death, but, honestly, fuck 'em.
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>>85533517
>a planet-spanning story that will change the face of Necromunda forever – assuming it survives…
Ughh. Like, UGHH.
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>>85533821
Ah, good. Because I don't want to have to buy a vehicle to participate in a campaign since all of my friends wanted to bring vehicles.
I do have an unassembled SoB rhino, maybe I should just use it as a custom heavy vehicle.
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>>85521918
whole project is pure soul, I will be stealing the lentils idea lad
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>>85509854
Very nice paints. They have a real naturalistic look. They seem cunning, hungry and a little the worst for wear.
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>>85534183
thanks! Well, if you were worried about them, Woody and Sylvester are here to help them get that touchdown!
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>>85533782
>>85533517
>you'll live to see goliath gangs crossing the rubicon primaris
WHAT A DAY.
WHAT A LOVELY DAY
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So Lorien and Rivendell focus? And possibly Fangorn and Moria?
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>>85534602
>Moria
Khazad-Dum!?
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>>85532098
I near shit myself laughing at that. Picturing a warband with weirdly flat faces and their eyes a little further apart than is typical.

Says more about me than anything else of course. I'm wiping away tears. Thankyou.
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>>85533517
WYRD OGRYN AHOY

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/05/this-free-necromunda-scenario-takes-the-squats-into-the-underhive-alongside-a-psychic-ogryn/
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>>85534602

Kinda cool but I was really warming to that rumor of an Osgiliath battle box.
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>>85534995
No reason that can't still be a thing
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>>85534780
It cant even use of the 6 powers it can take. Classic proofreading.
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>>85535193
>One of*
Fuck its even affecting me now.
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does anyone in these threads actually play Aeronautica? seems like a dead game from what I can tell
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>>85534995
>>85535001
They mention something specific to the Two Towers, and Osgiliath is featured in Two Towers.
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>>85535715
Aeronautica was a stillbirth, it was never alive in the first place.
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Any kino thematic yet competitive MESBG lists?
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Why is Aeronautica Imperialis even a thing? They should have dropped a new Battlefleet Gothic as soon as Star Wars Armada and Dystopian/Firestorm shat the bed.
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No sign of the Warcry 2.0 core rules dropping so I guess like usual, WarCom was just wrong. Now to play the waiting game for it to get scanned.
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>>85535857

Ruffians. Easterlings. Fangorn. Fellowship and Thorin's Company.
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>>85535873
One of the model designers probably just wanted to make tiny planes
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>>85537148
I can appreciate that, but then why does it continue to exist after the initial Navy vs Orks releases?
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>>85535857
I have had some success with Old Bilbo and the seven surviving members of thorins company. Old Bilbo is a kino model. Add Elrond and elves or Gandalf and hobbits (which is impossible allies but who cares) to taste. At lower points you can just use the young bilbo profile for the model to save allying.
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>>85534780
There was a female one in the ghazghul novel in service to a radical Xenia inquisitor
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>>85537265
RIP
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>>85535193
They didn't even proofread their announcement graphic.
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>Necromunda confirmed for another fucking $50/book dripfeed of content.

Would it kill them to do a balance pass or something? Instead they'll just pile more shit on the heap with the foundations rotting out. They fucking buffed Suspensors of all things while Bulging Biceps was left in its crap state.
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>>85533652
>>85533821
I'd say it depends on whether the campaign gives the 400 bonus credits for vehicles.

Most of the light vehicles suck, but the Ridgehauler is so absurdly pushed it's not even funny.

Might want to build a truck and say "Counts as Goliath Rockgrinder".
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Been looking into MESBG for a while and at this point I have some extra disposable income so I might buy into it, and so far I'm leaning towards Easterlings, cause I've loved their looks since I saw them in the movies, and I heard they're good in the game. Would a box of commanders and a box of warriors be a good start? I tried making some quick list in Battlescribe and got like 300 ish points.
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>>85537237

Nice work, King.

I should really paint my own Rohirrim from the starter.
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>>85538475
it feels fresher, coming from 40k and the paint schemes i did there. this is new,
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Apparently the Pellennor starter is starting to show up as sold out in some regions. Take that how you will.
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>>85534153
Thank you very much! And here, I did more mushrooms and the previously mentioned snail ecosphere.
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>>85539823

Damn. I'm 99% sure I don't need another one but my American instinct to grab/hoard something in short supply to keep others from getting it is kicking in.
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>>85539823
Sick, I've got an unopened one and I'll buy the next starter never to open that one too
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Played my first game of Warcry 2.0 against my bud today, me on Iron Golems vs. my buddy on Sylvaneth. We rolled the First Blood deployment, the Hidden Vault mission, and the Dead of Night twist.
I ended up rolling to be the person to place 2 of the 3 objectives and placed them as close as I could to my deployments, and my Golems were just a little too hard for him to shift in time to get the win. Still very close though, I think the Sylvaneth could have potentially taken it with some tighter play on my opponents part though.

Initial thoughts are that it still plays very similarly at least at a casual level with both players taking mid-sized warbands - we used reactions only occasionally when one of us was almost certain the model under attack was going to die, which is a nice little way to get some value out of a cheap unit that hasn't gone yet before it goes splat. The biggest impact was the stat changes, the Golems played a lot closer to how I imagine the devs intended them to, being slow but very hard to crack and packing a decent punch. His Spite Revenants being T3/10W instead of the old T3/8W also really felt impactful, there were quite a few times when I just barely failed to kill them and had to waste another action to finish the job.

Also got to look at the narrative rules more closely and they definitely seem solid. All the Trial of Champions rules from 1.0 were more or less ported intact to the base campaign system in 2.0 which is great. The underdog glory bonus also now scales with how powerful the opposing warband is, which is nice. It still follows a quest structure but there's an entire exploration phase now about delving deeper into the Gnarlwood, and importantly your warbands size is non-linear, but instead determined by the kind of encampment you're able to make, and that can be taken away from you. Definitely feels like it's going to be a lot more dynamic now while still fitting into the "casual pick-up play focused" niche the game is going for.
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>>85541302
Chad picture of chad painted models doing chad things
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>>85541302
Out of the box Iron Golem build or tweaked a bit?
Also, we tend to remove twists that are too impactful. Dead of Night is the one where you can’t shoot cause it’s too dark? Yeah, would never gimp any Warband this much.
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>>85543122
>Out of the box Iron Golem build or tweaked a bit?
Modified slightly but mostly out of the box, the Signifier was converted into an extra Drillmaster and all my Legionaries have shields. Sylvaneth list was the Kurnoth Huntmaster with bow, 2 Scythe Kurnoth, and 5 Spite-rev's.
>Also, we tend to remove twists that are too impactful.
Totally a fair choice. Don't remember what it was worded as in 1.0, but in 2.0 Dead of Night is fighters aren't visible past 4" - so shooting is possible, just difficult. It did impact his list somewhat with one of his 3 big combat models being a ranged dude, but we decided to roll with it anyway as the Huntmaster with bow got updated to have an actually decent-ish melee profile this edition. If his entire list was ranged-focused we probably would have re-rolled the twist.
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>>85541610
>siggy piggy shite
>chad
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Haven't played warcry pretty much since it's release 3 years ago, always wanted to do a FEC warband and now the time has finally come, what I thought about including in my warband is

Crypt ghast courtier (135)
Crypt ghast (105)
Crypt infernal courtier (305)
Crypt flayer (235)
4 crypt Ghouls (55 X 4)

Will this be playable or do I lack something?
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>>85543633
>Will this be playable or do I lack something?
Seems very playable. 8 models puts you on the lower end of a mid-size warband which is fine, you've got 3 models capable of using Bringer of Death so you can have one in each deployment group which is fantastic for zipping chunks of your warband across the board, and you've got 2 fast flyers with reasonable combat stats which are just generally very flexible pieces that are useful in pretty much every sort of mission.
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>>85543666
Thanks for the feedback, now only to paint them
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>buy the Stormstrike Warcry box for the cards alone
>cards now outdated
Fine, I'll do it myself.
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>>85537163
He really wanted to make tiny planes
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QUESTION!

What is the state of Splintered Fang and Unmade compared to before the new rules?
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>>85545280
They got nerfed pretty fucking hard. Not that they were really good before, but they really took a dive now.
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>>85545280
Splintered Fang out of the Box is stronger, but the "Competitive" build was rightfully nerfed. Still pretty strong tho, should have a solid win ratio.
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>>85545401
Not that anon but how the fuck are Splintered Fang stronger now? Trueblood and Pureblood are still crap, Serpent Caller is weaker now due to snake nerf. Venombloods punch way weaker now.

>>85545350
All core Chaos warbands took a dive, just look at Cypher Lords. Only Iron Golem and Cabal are better.
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>>85545437
Whips, spears, top tier abilities and a lot of models. They are one of the few out-of-the-box Warbands that can go toe to toe with solid AoS teams still. Squishy tho, so skill-heavy.
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>>85545480
Whips have become great but I doubt that makes them able to go toe to toe with AoS teams. What abilities of Splintered Fang would you rate top tier?
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Tomorrow night ya'll, don't forget. Hour long MESBG stream from GW. Be there or be don't there.
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>>85545538
>or be don't there.
The squares are all gone now?
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>>85545630
We're Lord of the Rings fans, we're all squares. You need to accept that.
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>>85545538

Going to laugh when all this fanfare is over a new Forgeworld Ent and some kind of Rohan fortification set that could vaguely emulate Helm's Deep if you bought 5 sets.
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>>85545745
Not over a whole hour you tard.
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>>85521339
>>85521435
>>85521454
>>85521706
>>85521755
>>85521775
>>85521798
Your choice of paints sort of reminds me of Kevin Dallimore's painting style a little bit. It seems like a style where he abandons washes and just goes from darkest to lightest by hand.
I quite like it. It creates a kind of "cartoony" look to the miniatures and I think it inspires a more casual fun focused game session rather than a competitive one.
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>>85533843
Yeah pretty much this. They gave themselves a whole planet to explore with years of potential new releases, but they just can't resist shitting it all up with nulore and ongoing storylines.

If I were an optimist I might hope this would hasten the demise of Nucromunda and we could get back to easily steering new generations of grogs to NCE rather than battling the last dregs of their "muh supported game" stockholm syndrome, but there's a class of hypercasual out there who *love* being spoonfed their hot tasty turds directly from GW's anus who will no doubt think the is the bestestest evar cos now they can use their Primaris Marines! Bleugh.
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>>85505849
I'm thinking about getting into epic Armageddon.
What are some things I should be aware of when taking the plunge anyways?

And concerning Epic Armageddon rules. Between the original rules and the tournament Net Epic Armageddon which is more popular these days among Epic Armageddon players?
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>>85545745
lol what is that gif from?
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>>85546301

It's from a German comedy show, World of Wolfram
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>>85545280
This nerd gives a pretty comprehensive breakdown of all the 8.8 faction changes, complete with spreadsheets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHkpKJesqsY
Too long; didn't watch Iron Golems, Scions of the Flame, Spire Tyrants, and Darkoath Savagers are up, everyone else is down to some degree.
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>>85545972
ziterdes i think, it's compressed hard foam
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>>85505849
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/08/06/saturday-pre-orders-journey-into-the-heart-of-ghur/
Pre-order article for this week seems to indicate that the WC 2.0 core rulebook won't be available outside of the starter set until some time in the future.
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>>85546429
Thanks anon
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>>85547334
PDF it is then, and so my wait begins.
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>>85547667
Have any anons here volunteered to scan the rulebook yet?
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Khemri plastic team when?
Alternate heads for the chaos chosen when?
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>>85508785
>>85508751
Whats wrong with Dale out of curiosity?
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>>85548584
You should be able to find some leftover norse heads, they fit well on the Blockers body. Or play Nurgle or Khorne like a real man
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>>85545512
>>85545437
It's more of a meta thing but worth pointing out that the basic Splinter Fang double ability's stock may be going way up at least at the start of 2.0, since Monsters are now matched play legal and people will want to play around with that.
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Anyone seen any rumours about if/when we might see Spire Tyrants, Scions of the Flame, Khainites, Tarantulos, and Darkoath get reboxed with double number and minus the cards like the original 6 got?
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>>85550735
If I had to hazard a guess, probably in time for the StD battletome release.
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>>85546246
>What are some things I should be aware of when taking the plunge anyways?
Good luck finding anybody to play Epic with at the LGS if you're not from the UK.
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Stopped by the hobby shop today for a refill on brown wash and saw these rolling pins from greenstuff world on the counter, I had been tempted to buy one before but didn't want to pay shipping on it.
Making another very nice upgrade to my pitch now.
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>>85507087
Grots and Snotlings are opportunistic runts who wouldn't bat an eye torturing the defenseless if it got them ahead. They're the viper from "the farmer and the viper", and a roight en' proppa gob smakkin'z wut deyz need tu' be kept in line.
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>>85546622
love salty sea
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>>85505849
For those that care, the very last Warcry 1.0 event wrapped up at Gencon a few hours ago. To the surprise of nobody who's been paying attention, spider spam took #1.
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>>85551201
Very cool Anon.
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>>85506346
Okay so let's say your warband all move on 4s so it'll only be 2 inches when carrying the treasure...how about you hold on to your wild dice to get extra move with a double? That's a 6 inch movement with the slowest possible fighter.
Now for the big brain move: if you've been correctly managing your wild dice (which you should be doing if you have a slow ass team on a treasure mission) you can activate the fighter with the loot, move, use the universal ability to get an extra move action then WAIT - you can activate again in the round and do that again.

So that's 8 inches in one round with the slowest possible fighter just by having two doubles (two wild dice banked on the worst possible roll of all singles).
TL;DR: think
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>>85552210
>use the universal ability to get an extra move action
There isn't a universal ability that grants an extra move action? Unless you're suggesting it's practical to use the Rampage quad to move a guy a few extra inches.
>So that's 8 inches in one round with the slowest possible fighter
...And the factions with 10" move missiles are still getting 16" of movement across their two actions while carrying a treasure without investing any ability dice into them at all.
>TL;DR: think
I don't think you've thought this through.
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>>85552210
>Okay so let's say your warband all move on 4s so it'll only be 2 inches when carrying the treasure
3 inch minimum
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>>85551682
Funny thing is, Reactions promote the use of Chaff-heavy armies so nothing will change.
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>>85519914
Aren't they broken by design? Aren't the win conditions different when you play against them?
Haven't looked at the rules for years but when we played we stuck with imp vs chaos, everything else felt off.
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Any based bro have a scan of the new Warcry Core Book?
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>>85551201
>Nesquig
lol
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If I'm just getting into Blood Bowl right now, what do I need to pick up for the essential rules and stuff? looking at the spike issues/almanac available, it kinda feels like trying to get into a story half-way through where the first few books are out of print

Aside from the starter set, should I just get the Almanac 2021 and only ever play one of those teams?
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>>85546429
>german
>comedy
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>>85554259
>insert npc meme
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>>85554259
their jokes are too meta for most people
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Blood Bowl newbie here, a khemri team with only 2 tomb guardian, 2 throw-ra, 2 blitz-ra and 6 skeletons is more of a midway team or is it still a bashing one?
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>>85554259
I watched Toni Erdmann a while back and it was a lot of fun.
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>>85506261
3'' warbands are fucked anyway, low model count+low speed+obj based battleplans= lose against every normal team.
Orruks and Rotbringers may as well not be in the game at all.
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>>85554772
Orruk Brutes have this new [Tripple] ability that makes enemy models with less than 14 wounds not being able to control the objective they stand at. I suppose if you had more of that, slow Warbands would be absolutely viable, as it's very hard to remove their fatt ass from the objective they've finally crawled to.
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cautiously excited bros
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>>85519914
Necrons were designed as a hard counter to Eldar, the ultimate troll fleet and arguably the most powerful prior.
Amusingly, they are actually lore accurate, but no fun to face.
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Live
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>plastic Arwen
DROPPED
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>>85555375
They haven't announced/previewed anything yet, fuck up.
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>>85555324
New Osgilith Core Box, 53 miniatures
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Osgiliath starter set!
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kino is back on the menu
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>>85555405
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>>85555410
>movie box "art"
Not sure if cringe or kino
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>>85555425
why the fuck would it be cringe?
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>>85555419
New plastics.
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Just woke up. Are these new WoMT or is it the old kit?
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>>85555442
no the poses are the old ones, really disappointing and the garbage morannon orc sculpts too..
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>>85555442
they're the old kit
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>>85555452
>>85555455
Ah, okay, thanks.
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>>85555436
Gothmog in plastic.
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>>85555461
Look at this fucked up house.
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>>85555436
Love these, especially that the tactical rocks are optional.
>>85555461
Love this as well, only thing that's iffy is the wargs face. But that could just be the angle.
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>>85555482
They're blabbering know
>Faramir and co's tactical rocks are seperate to the scult
>Gothmog has weapon options
>Terrain is customizable like Rohan kit
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>>85555505
So the usual?
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Plastic characters and terrain is nice and all and it's certainly better than nothing. But holy shit is it disappointing that they didn't replace the shit pile Morannon crcs. If they had made this same box with the regular plastic orcs I would have considered buying it, but with the Morannon orcs I just don't have any interest at all.
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>>85555419
Evil getting the same shitty orc sculpts but less of them, troll (good kit but come on) and no witch king
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niiiiiiiiiice start collecting sets coming for different armies
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>>85555505
Oh the Osgiliath box is replacing Pelennor Fields box.

4 big boxes coming
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Starter boxes, ok that's cool.
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Starter boxes sets, that is fucking great!
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>>85555540
Gandalf and Gondor box
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>>85555540
>Mordor gets the regular orc models
nice
But still disappointing that they won't replace some of the old infantry kits
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>>85555551
Isengard box
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>>85555560
I want that Palantir
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>>85555560
Rohan box
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>>85555568
>Not plastic Theoden
JUST
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>>85555568
Mordor box.

Boxes are more-or-less balanced against each other. They might do more boxes in the future. Cheaper as a set than individual.
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>>85555461
How is Gothmog ingame now, I haven't played since last edition
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>>85555581
I will pick this one up as I'm yet to have any Mordor models and I like the Witch King model
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>>85555581
Glor model.
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>>85555594
>what could have been for the Lumineth
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Gorgeous. Imagine Gil-galad like this.
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>>85555594
Beautiful
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>>85555594
OH FUCK MUH DICK
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>>85555601
>Gil-galad
F
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>>85555602
>>85555604
First sculpt of a new sculptor on the team. The faces for these new models so far are great.
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>>85555597
>smegmarcucks get dabbed on yet again
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>>85555594
alright that looks really fucking good
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>>85555615
Indeed, a lot of the plastic lotr heroes have derpy faces.
The beacons are lit AF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH4mnl8VK9U
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>>85555615
Great hire, looking forward to what else he will make
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>>85555594
Rum and Oro
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I come from the future
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>>85555632
Pretty sexy.
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>>85555632
>switching from citadel resin to forgeworld resin
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>>85555637
Unironically they are too.. slim. The old sculpts had proper wide pauldroncore chad shoulders.
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>>85555637
I like the slender look. No extra shit or anything, just elegant armor and cloth.
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>>85555637
>>85555647
AAAYY LMAO they look like greys
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>>85555647
New Elrond
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Okay, I don't know who works on these pose designs, but AoS needs more of that. Every horse-riding mini looks SPECTACULAR.
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Elrond in plastic, fuck yes
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Awesome.
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>>85555594
>>85555675

Clearly we can see where the passionate and talented artists of GW go to work
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>>85555678
AoS could learn a ton of MESBG. Starting from using actual horses, to giving them round bases and above all how to make elven armour. Those rivendell elves look sexy as fuck.
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>>85555675
Gil-Galad's banner, included in the Elrond kit.
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>>85555695
It just looks so good.
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God damn I love this shit. if I can be greedy, maybe new Rivendell troop sculpts?
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UOOOHHHH ELROND AND GLORFINDEL

I have to fucking get some Rivendell cav
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Was hoping for plastic high elf warriors with sword and shield...
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>>85555675
GOAT
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>>85555704
That's All Folks, nothing else to be shown.
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>>85555735
Oh an Adam keeps suggesting that there may be a new Gil-Galad in the works.
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>>85555741
cc: >>85555601, >>85555613
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>>85555594
>>85555675
I don't even play MESBG and I still might get them just to paint them. They look incredible.
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>>85555594
>>85555675
fuck, now I need to find a guide for painting that high elf gold that always alluded me
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>>85555419
>>85555416
>>85555410
>>85555405
Aaa fuck it means I have to buy the old box asap. The new one is dope and I can't complain but the previous one is such a good deal for the evil side.
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>>85555805
Liberator Gold, some kind of thinned yellowy Contrast and Ironbreaker highlights?
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>>85555805
>>85555845
The trick is not using GW gold paints or else you get that awful orange gold they did for the galadrim. Use Vallejo's metal color gold.
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New for GWSG
>>>85555882

New for MESBG
>>>85555895
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>>85555675
>>85555681
What was the name of the sculptor?
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>>85555900
>New for MESBG
based
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>>85555845
>>85555805
Green wash over the gold.
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>>85555900
Fuck off.
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>>85555923
Think before you make a 100 posts on one subject back to back to back without prompting
You want to play with others? share the space. You can't do that? get your own space.
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>>85555945
Imagine being so autistic you get upset at people posting about MESBG during a press conference about MESBG reveals..
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>>85555977
>during a
Sounds like something only people interested in your hobby unrelated to all other hobbies here, would know or care about
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>>85555988
Do you post about every single specialist game on every single of your posts? No? Then you aren't allowed to post here.
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>>85555988
Are you seriously suggesting that painting and playing with fantasy football miniatures and painting and playing with lord of the rings miniatures constitute a different hobby?
How many MESBG player did you see in these threads bitching and moaning like your autismal ass during the bloodbowl or warcry reveals?
I'm sad to hearyour janitorial application got rejected on the grounds of you being too autistic and gay but how about you fuck off to /HWG/ and insist they split up their general into one one for each era and scale, becasue clearly those are vastly different hobbies.
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>>85556042
>a whole host of company "original" games (yeah plagiarism abounds)
>ONE single sell-out game from an external source
>ONE of these things is not like the others
I'm so sorry to hear about your failure to graduate primary school anon.
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>>85556080
the mental illness is strong in this one
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>>85556385
That sounds like a personal problem and not something to be telling us about on GWSG, take it to your therapist.
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>>85554193
Just the main rulebook will do you, anon. It's in the starter set or available separately too. It's got all the rules you need to play, plus the teams.

Almanacs and spikes are just extra stuff for fun that you don't need if you don't have the team it's about, and even then it's mostly just for fun.

Any teams not in the book are either in the team of legend pdf available for free download on warcom (if they're old) or floating around online (if they're new). In blood bowl an entire team's rules are just a five-ish line table so you can get a jpeg off of Google images if you need to.

Welcome to the best fucking game bru, glad to have you.
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>>85556534
did you really just do "NO U"? Are you twelve or something?
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>>85557184
Are you a chatbot?
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>>85555637
>banner is obviously a pike
>have to lose the pike in game to take a banner
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I know mordor uruk-hai suck but how is mordor vs foot rohan for casual games? I like Uruk-Hai so i'll be using some of those supported by bow/spear orcs.
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>>85558838

More favorable to the Uruk-hai, Rohan is a cavalry army



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