Previous: >>85017993>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.net>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM >how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>TQ:Post a decklist and tell us how it winsyoure a pussy if it isnt irl cards
>>85022699That flavor text is so fucking good
Bolas was still pretty based though, sure he is no Yawgmoth, but he has potential for a redemption arc which adds alot more depth to his character than just being the big bad.
>>85022707It's a pity he had that stroke. Tim Curry would have made a great Yawgmothhttps://youtu.be/pVzYS3Ga_j8
>>85022727the only thing yawgmoth did wrong was making his machines scary-looking. he was right about everything, we have to abandon the weak flesh and embrace metallic perfection
>>85022672https://www.moxfield.com/decks/fB-M37raDkmFMNTQDaQm_QIt wins by making you unable to want to play.
>>85022715>the list is very long, but he kidnapped children with talent to make them child soldiers, fucked the entire Serra's Realm by luring phyrexians there because he didn't want to fight, created horrible machines that were phyrexian level in his effort to beat phyrexia, nuked two entire continents killing everyone in them and plunging the world into an ice age because he was butthurt and at the end of the day even having done all this shit in the name of beating phyrexia he instantly gave up when confronted with yawgmoth and gerrard had to decapitate him and actually save the daysounds like a cool guy if you ask me>>85022727Bolas is the opposite of coolhe might as well be a one-off avengers villain
>>85022751Bolas is cool because he enjoys raping women
Is it just me or is this land a piece of shit?
>>85022833yeah uh that thing sucks bro
>>85022748>looks at price of deckgoddamn it sucks to be a poorfag trying to play commander.
>>85022727Bolas is a bitch. Got beaned by a regular human with a uncommon card as his trump card and other than that, he could be a Scooby Doo villain.
>>85022833It's a shame that it states "green", since it would be an auto include in Volrath otherwise. Nothing is as fun as having a 7/5 Cephalid Constable in the zone
>>85022833Yup, it's bad. Could be alright in a go-wide deck (like Saprolings) with a few cards to untap lands, but still not great. It's better in a 60card Saproling deck with loads of ramp where you can comfortably tap multiple copies of Oran-Rief every time a few tokens enter. In EDH, it's rarely useful. I still have it in my mono-green +1 counter deck because I use cards I like, even if they are bad.
>>85022727Bolas would've been cooler if he actually won at Ravnica.But then I guess they'd try to copy Avengers: End Game which would probably be even worse
>>85022932It's okay they'll try that with the phyrexians.
>>85022845My stance is proxy or die poorboy. Its only p2w if you cant defend your self.
>>85022727Bolas was cool when he was a nebulous, inscrutable chessmaster who would be referenced every now and then as having a stake in this world or that, for reasons to be explained later. Before and during the point where WOTC had a defined narrative for what he was really up to, it was cool being reminded that while all these happenings are going on in each plane, a greater force was working behind the scenes toward a grand scheme, and that we were watching it slowly, inevitably unfold. For me, I think it was about the time that Bolas and Ugin became brothers that his aura began to wane, and then they crashed and burned upon landing at WAR. Roughly a decade's worth of off and on buildup wasted, longer if you consider the start to be The Mending and not Alara Block like I am. We'll see him again, I just don't think I'll care when we do.
>>85022932>Bolas would've been cooler if he actually won at Ravnica.Yes, but that would mean sacrificing one of the most popular settings in the game. WOTC would never.
These days, people would probably prefer to see Mana Confluence, but it's still a great reprint.
>>85023004>one of the most popular settings in the gameIs it? All the MTG players I know of are tired of it.
>>85023028Ravnica and Innistrad are probably neck and neck as the most popular. At least with the normies.
>>85023034just more impetus to port boomer Jund to EDH
>>85023020While I suppose tapping down City of Brass can be a counterplay that also deals damage to its owner, the 1 damage can be prevented. Other than idk Font of Agonies, there isn't a payoff for paying life, so I see Mana Confluence as worse than City of Brass. Also, Angel of Jubilation and Yasharn can prevent a player from using Mana Confluence.
>this little bastards slaps your gf's ass and steals your lunch moneyWhat do?
>>85023004>Bolas controlled RavnicaThe setting could be taken a more darker tone
>>85023074Wait, Dockside is supposed to be a goblin.
> tqhttps://archidekt.com/decks/2735690#Big_Burn_Binder_BulkA bunch of burn spells faggotry and mostly card selection over card advantage (because topdeck manipulation is way better than draw 2 cards or some shit)Its honestly pretty fun to pilot. I'll probably buy some stuff to speed it up though.
>>85023087Goblins on Ixalan were monkeys.
>>85023104Seems dumb but at least it's consistent.
>>85023098Oh, the wincon is getting enough mana and copying burn spells enough to KO everyone.No extra turn spells necessary.
>>85022932I will never not be mad that the Niv vs Bolas fight was entirely off screen
>>85023074I target the person who played them for the rest of the game
>>85023118Wait, Niv-Mizzet was jobbed out in a dark match? KWAB.
>>85023146Niv was literally tossing parts of the city at Bolas and holding his own for a bit. He even resisted his mind break touch. All of that happened off screen. Fuck WAR writing.
>>85023154Yeah, that actually sounds kinda cool. As if WAR couldn't have been a bigger fuck up.
>>85022727>Bolas redemption arcYou have to go back
>>85023176Good luck and good night's rest will come to you but only if you reply "sweet drems sleep tight smol Elenda" to this post
>finally ended my 8 game loss streakfaith in edh restored
>>85023192Tell your tale, if it be good.
>>85023191sweet drems sleep tight smol Elenda
Do you think it's worth running Dark Confidant?
>>85023210In Commander? Maybe in a Hatebears deck where you probably won't flip some fatty and nuke a good chunk of your life.
>>85023053This art is so fucking good
>>85023216Just roll the dice, fagtron, he only ever flip lands
>>85023234Don't ask questions you don't want the answers to.
Try as they might, nobody can ever top Argyle's Bloodbraid Elf
>>85023244I should have linked both of youBob flips land 90% of the time he is basically a free draw 2
>tqDespite all the times Ive reanimated strossus or lord or morphed liege or any of the sweet top end creatures I almost always end up winning by playing, saccing and reanimating either gray merchant or underworld hermit several times
>>85023293Unfortunate. What possessed you to put Cabal Patriarch at the helm?
>>85023176Why is Elenda sleeping in this art?
>>85023201its not unless you count traumatizing myself interesting
>>85023332She was asleep for a very long time.
>>85023342Bitch should've stayed in bed so we'd have one less retardation from Shitvam.
>>85023331That foil has been rattling around in my binder for almost a decade and I didnt have a (real) black deck
>>85023358As good a reason as any. How do you like the deck?
>>85023355I miss the glory days of shitting on Shivam.
>>85023362Probably going to be getting dismantled alongside a BUG deck I ended up not liking to build hogaak with all the same reanimator nonsense but none of the aristocrats pieces.
we're hitting the bulk rare part of the show folks
>>85023398I don't think I've ever seen Hogaak played in this format. Good luck.
>>85023410post the edit
>>85023376Dude, they're stark white in Ixalan. They're vampires, what did you expect?
>>85023404the tranny commander
>>85023146>>85023118>>85022932Niv Mizzet is a jobber compared to Bolas, the match wasn't even worth putting on TV before the PPV started.
>>85023073Also also, Blood Sun will negate City of Brass's damage ability, but not Mana Confluence's life loss.
>>85023422He isnt really great, has a few unique tech pieces like tend the pests and carrion that give you a huge board presence for 2/3 mana but the deck is going to be struggling with even minor grave hate. Going to pretty much just self mill and reanimate with my 8/8 commander as my worst option to utilize my graveyard with and accept the deck isnt going to be rocking the comp tables
>>85023496Bolas is a Mary Sue retard they've made into a shitty Marvel super villain. Mustache twirling dumbass that was given way too many years of the story's focus. MTG characters and lore has been completely shit since they stopped having it be contained to plane centric.
>>85023257post cards that are built for BBEC (bloodbraid elf cascade)
>>85023497>Blood SunAre you sure you want to go down this path again?
>>85023538Nta, but that card looks cool. Wish it was worth running.
>>85023538Which path, exactly? It will turn off City of Brass's first ability.
Would you say Constant Fog + cards that let you play lands from graveyard is unfun? I'm making a landfall deck, but I'm guessing no one at the table would enjoy playing vs. me because of Constant Fog.
>>85023581I never said you were wrong.
>>85023589No more unfun than Meren looping Spore Frog.
>>85023589only if its titania is it ok
>>85023589>only prevents COMBAT damageGo right ahead, my dude, won't slow me down at all.
>>85023606>player A reanimates spore frog>B forces him to pop it>both C and D have the capabilities to kill meren now
>>85023637Bold of you to assume everyone is aggro
>>85023499>t3 turbo out traumatize targeting self>t4 play sedris, he gets removed>sefris player popping off hard reanimate scholar of the lost trove to bring back bolas' citadel and immediatetly brick>down to 18 life, flip a dauthi voidwalker then follow up with toxic deluge>at 9 life and cast sedris, unearth peregrine + deadeye and bring back all my shit and swing at everyone else>just me and sefris now he tries to body double my kederekt leviathan>flicker scholar and play counterspell from the yard into a concede since I had grave titan on the field
>>85022672>>TQ:>Post a decklist Pic related>and tell us how it winsUsually, a combination of (1) death by a thousand cuts with Roiling/Sulfuric Vortex, Manabarbs, Pyrohemia, and so on and (2) swinging with tokens and/or animated enchantments.But occasionally you get the ridiculous games in which Enchanted Evening sticks for long enough for me to pull of some really dumb shit with Aura Thief or Forgeborn Oreads. Sometimes we get there via Underworld Breach and Wheel of Fortune.
>>85023656Bold of you to assume control would let 1/1 stay on the table.
>>85023689At least it isnt yawgmoth raping my creatures to feed his engine of destruction.
How do I make this guy good? I tried enchantress and without green it's not very good. Do I just have to make him an aristocrats deck?
When you're building a deck, you're supposed to include X ramp, X draw, and X removal. But how are those numbers effected when your commander provides one of those?
>>85023376Kill yourself. Pale is best.
>>85023730>I tried enchantress and without green it's not very good.Non-green enchantress is easy to build if you aren't a mouth breather. You have both white and blue--that's absolutely enough to make the theme work.
>>85023753shes not costed like a rock + no haste so not at all
How do I graduate from being a timmy? All my friends are either johnnys or spikes and I'm kind of tired of losing, but I don't really know how to build commander decks on my own and I don't really like using commanders that don't have any relevance to the deck at all like tatiyova or that selesnya whore that just draws cards when you play enchantments
>>85023789Maybe not that one in particular, but what about in general?
>>85023805build a better deck simple as
>>85023787Every turn felt like I could either play something good or play an overcosted do-nothing enchantment that would generally die before my next turn. The commander himself faces the same issue, 5 mana removal magnet that need's haste, extra mana, and a spare permanent to sacrifice. Most enchantment payoffs in Esper tend to be irrelevant life drain effects (Grim Guardian, Underworld Coinsmith) or token generation (Ajani's Chosen, Alela). Without the card draw snowballing that green enchantress decks have, my hand ends up empty with nothing to show for it but a couple 2/2s and some stax pieces that only mildly annoy. Maybe I'm just building the deck wrong.
>>85023805You are a timmy. You want the biggest dick on the block. There are two paths to do this ->Cast a spell of embiggen your dickThis works well but can easily be stifledThe trick is the second path>Cast a spell of ensmall their dickThere's lots of big splashy shit that's either difficult to interact with or can put a lot of pressure on opponents to keep up. GB value engines, Zurgo wrath tribal, GU stompy with permission spells, etc. The trick is to remember that you only need one wincon at a time, so once that wincon is online you need pieces to protect it and clear a path rather than things that work in parallel to it. Deckbuilding is a skill, and the only way to get better at it is to try shit and see what happens. When you win, what cards did you not end up needing or casting? When you lose, what resource did you run out of first? Were there cards in your hand that you felt didn't help at all? Why? Thinking like that can help inform inclusions and cuts beyond cards that 'can' win. Any card 'can' win, so you need to focus and winnow it down.
>>85023790its the boring cost I have to accept to play such a shitty legendm if there were another way to make enough mana to unearth everything and have them not be exiled from unearth I would gladly swap it out
>>85023845you sicken me
>>85023838>play an overcosted do-nothing enchantment that would generally die before my next turnThen don't run those enchantments. Only run reasonably costed enchantments that do something you want them to>Most enchantment payoffs in Esper tend to be irrelevant life drain effects (Grim Guardian, Underworld Coinsmith) or token generation (Ajani's Chosen, Alela).Other than, you know, Serra's Sanctum, Opalescence, Sphere of Safety, and all the rest, of course. And your commander already gives you a way to extract additional value from enchantments--and, notably, the creature tokens you were just complaining about. Hell, a Grave Pact on the board with Ertai and Hallowed Haunting means that every enchantment spell you cast gives you growing body that can be sacrificed to edict your opponents and counter a spell. That's ridiculous! Add Intruder Alarm to untap Ertai whenever a creature enters the field and your opponents should have trouble maintaining a board state at all.>Without the card draw snowballing that green enchantress decks have, my hand ends up empty Christ alive, man, you're in BLUE. You can just run good card draw spells.>Maybe I'm just building the deck wrong.That much is obvious
is $300 for imperial seal a good deal or can it go lower?
Anyone got any good budget commanders? Really digging Daxos because a pretty big chunk of your deck can be bounce auras.
>>85023903That's an awful deal. Forget "could"--it WILL go lower.
>>85023914Daxos sounds like fun, m8. Valduk is an explosive budget general.
Has anyone ever used untap.in ? what did you think of it?
>>85023914Tasigur is a good cheap commanderGood removal, good draw, and is in combo colorsMuldroth is good too for getting values, extends your hand into the graveyard, and is also can protect himself very easily. Azusa's pretty good with a very streamlined tribal/control deck with a combo kill.Lastly, I'd say sivriss and whatever background you want. Svriss is a value engine and you can gear it towards whatever you want, like aristocrats, tokens, artifacts, etc.These are all for going budget, having a chance at good pods, as well as room for improvement
>>850239752nding. i want to know if it's worth using and ease of use
>>85023373It could be said that he's the designated shitting cag member
>>85023914BW Daxos? Or the UW one? I doubt you're talking about the soul sister one. UW one is pretty fun. BW one I run in my Kelsien along with Kalemne and will also run Minthara once I manage to get one of the normal art.
>>85024044BW, although looking at UW he looks pretty good too.
>>85024052https://scryfall.com/search?q=f%3Ac+t%3Aenchantment+id<%3Dbw+o%3A"return+~"+o%3A"%3A"&order=cmc&as=grid&unique=cardsdidn't get flickering ward even though it's the best aura for him though
>>85023656If you're not aggro then why are you struggling with a fog effect?
if you only have a lightning bolt in your graveyard do you just win?
>>85024070explain how you think this card works anon
>>85024085not him but as long as it doesn't get blinked or removed, as long as it has a bolt under it you can keep casting bolt as long as you cast something right?
>>85024095You can cast the exiled bolt once per turn, bombardment only triggers on first spells.
>>85024101oh jesus that text is just one long block
>>85024085not him, but it looks like turn 1 with it active, you take a spell from the gy and exile it, then cast it as a copy. Next turn, you do the same thing with a different spell from the gy then cast...both exiled spells. Turn 3 you do the same thing and cast 3 exiled spells because they were all "exiled with Arcane Bombardment" but wtf do i know
Is Spelltable always full of vermin?
>>85024052Honestly, I think that the BW one is more powerful. I enjoy the evasion and the triggered ability UW one has, so I prefer him overall. Also, I only have one Serra's Sanctum with a solid home and I would probably want to minmax like a fag. I even gutted my Rafiq combat damage triggers deck for my Daxos and put most of the swords there as well as Cephalid Constable. It's a very janky deck and not very strong, but I enjoy it a lot. I've cut a ton of auras and instead have gone with equipment route.
>>85024095It sets of a "bombardment" sequentially of every card exiled under it the first time you cast a spell each turn.>cast bolt, trigger enchantment, no spells in graveno extra effect>cast opt, trigger enchantment, bolt in graveopt resolves, exiles bolt, then casts free bolt>cast ponder, trigger enchantment, opt in graveponder resolves, exiles opt, cast free opt then boltand so on. The more spells in grave the less control you have over what gets added>>85024123correct
I'm about to go to prison for child endangerment, what commander should I build?
>>85024130Depends, is this image full of child pornography?
>>85024168>child endangermentIf you're not joking you are going to die in there.
I bought Baldur's Gate product and am depressed about it now, please make fun of me for not just buying singles.
>>85024217This, they'll stick you full of holes no doubt.
>>85024205No but I played some matches tonight and the place is full of corner shooters.
>>85024220u r a dumlol
>>85022672https://files.catbox.moe/856tt4.pngHoly fuck this took way longer to composite than i expected. 10000 years in paint for this schizo decklist image.This is my nearly 10yr old Oloro list that was my first commander. Typically wins with sharuum/sculpting steel and an aristocrat but that's garbage and I want to sub those cards out. Otherwise I make people concede with Zur's Weirding or win via 2nd Sun. I'd like to eventually include Fierce Guardianship, FoW and Mana Crypt to round it out but that's about where I'd want to stop powerlevel wise.
>>85024220Post your pulls faggot
>>85024274>>85024292I blocked them from my memory, best thing I got was full-art foil Ancient Brass Dragon.
What are the best reanimation/free cast win con creatures in esper? I'm building a cheat out big stuff deck, and while I have a consistent engine I don't know what I should actually be playing with it.
Good lord this card is bearscape tier of ugly
>>85024367Mike n trike
>>85024367the answer is always eldrazi and that is why reanimator is boring
i want to play rg ponza in modern but i keep remembering wrenn is still legal
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/l5mg-fF5LUes_A10abGLJAInfinite GoblinsGoes for a Snoop Pile or repeatedly untaps Krenko
>>85024371>HATING MINORITIES IS MY ONLY PERSONALITY TRAITThat art is actually quite lovely. Unlike the tacky cal-arts bearscape shit
>>85024408Most of the art is really good you're right. But the disgusting character ruins the landscape.
>>85024387This is what I was afraid of. I don't want it to just be eldrazi deck.
>>85024420Only because she’s Americanized like how Teferi went from noble African chieftain to literally Idris Elba in cosplay. Same reason why Mirage block is based and new blacks on White cards seem offensive. If you look closely you can smell the fried chicken and purple drank
Double Commander Masters 2022
>>85024367scholar of lost trovesjin gitsheoldredarchon of crueltyhullbreaker horror
>Imperial Seal, Concordant Crossroads, Warriors Oath, Mana DrainThe only cards even CLOSE to this shit, not even considering Dockside, that could be reprinted in White is either:Armageddon Land TaxSmothering TitheWhich funny enough all have to do with mana, but since JOTC refuses to reprint MLD, and LandTax was in the first 2XMasters, that leaves Tithe, which is also not likely due to Nosewater hating that card like he actually owes it money.
>>85024371>we need you to draw a young woman experimenting with magic on flowers in a big open field>Sure, I can do tha->Also remember the California Raisins? From the 80s? Make her look like them
Anyone able to help me pick 99 cards to fuck off out of my Wyleth plan?https://pastebin.com/seSui74d
>TQBlazing Sunsteel or Guilty Conscience+Brash TaunterSunforger a bolt to start it.There are a few other ways to win, but that's the most common and compact way.
>>85023046I JUST WANT LORWYN AGAIN WHY THE FUCK ARE THE NERDS AT WIZARDS NOT DOING IT
>>85024367>WinningPainter and GrindstoneSyr Konrad+Basalt Monolith+Mesmeric OrbMike and Trike/Walking Balista
>>85024534After seeing what they did to Kamigawa, you actually want a return to Lorwyn? I'm so glad Otaria is largely untouched by modern WotC (even if the rest of Dominaria is gone)
>>85023191>sweet drems sleep tight smol Elenda
>>85024542Kamigawa was always weaboo trash with mediocre mechanics.Bring back more Goblins, Elves, Merfolk and tribal shit.Wither was a less AIDS version of Infect and poison too
>>85024408>>HATING MINORITIES IS MY ONLY PERSONALITY TRAITGrow up. Also the art is ugly
>>85024564oops still doesnt change the fact she's not worth modifying land/rock/ramp count for
>>85024553>Kamigawa was always weaboo trash with mediocre mechanics.Kamigawa had some of the best flavor in the game. If you think it's "weeaboo" you're either incredibly naive or underageb&
>>85024586I just hate Japanese themed shit, it seems to get shoehorned into every fantasy setting ever.Why does Mount and blade need Katanas? Why does the Elder scrolls need Samurai snakes and katanas? Why does Magic need a Japan plane?
>>85024140Technically the spells under the bombardment come before the one you cast cause it's a cast trigger, but essentially this.
>>85024606The answer is why not? Especially magic has tons of planes, eventually you'll end up everywhere. We also have an expansion called arabian nights.
>>85024606Compared to most shoehorned in Japanese stuff, Kamigawa was far more authentic. Part of the reason that it was so unpopular was because it was very in depth when most people just wanted a low effort coat of paint and ninjas like everything else. That and the shit mechanics, but we're talking flavor.
>>85024651If Kamigawa had better mechanics I don't think the more esoteric take on Japanese mythology would have bothered people as much. But coming from Mirrodin's absurd standard environment into a block with a bunch of underpowered jank and two of the best artifacts ever printed must have been rough
>>85024606Because Japanese themed shit is dope as fuck.
How the fuck do I mulligan in EDH? I keep getting different answers from different sites. I'm going insane. Please lay it out to me. Is it not the standard London mulligan? Someone in my pod was saying I get to scry afterwards. I was amazed when I couldn't find an answer on my phone.
>>85024982Haha just rule0 broski just talk it out with your playgroup pham
>>85024990I really can't find it. It's not even on the main wizards site. it's not on the mtgcommander site. The wiki only talks about london and partial pairs. What is this about scrying the amount of times you mulligan?
>>85024982Draw 7 each time and put cards on the bottom until you have the correct number. You get a free mulligan if it's not a duel.
>>85025009Okay, cool. I don't know what this guy was on about with scrying. But I couldn't find a direct answer on it so I just let whatever go. I really don't want to call a judge in a casual game and ask "how do I mullian?"
>>85025032Scrying is the old rule. Originally in 60 card formats you just drew a new random hand of X cards, then they added scry to make mulligans less punishing. Then they went to draw seven and return cards. EDH on the other hand used to use the partial Paris mulligan, where you could send back specific cards, but this made decks too consistent especially with low land counts so they changed it to the standard mulligan.
>>85025053Yeah I started playing commander when the precons hit in 2014 or so. That's when we had partials. But I do remember when it went to london a few years ago. I just haven't played in 3 years and really needed a refresher. And I'm glad I can tell that dude he's wrong.
>tqJund spellslinger. I decided to build the deck after they revealed Harness Infinity, knowing that I had to make an infinite combo with the card. It's instant speed and all on the stack using copy spells and rituals to juggle my hand and grave and either build storm count or bolt everyone until dead.
>>85022672https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/jorn-disciple-of-marit-lage/it wins by reanimating lands or making marit lage constantly
>>85025150>movie poster cards
>>85025150This actually looks a lot of fun, well done+1 for Xira
>>85022672>TQKek almost no replies. Nice try schizo but you're never looking at my cards. Ever. Let it be known that you ruined our fun and changed this place forever, for the worse.
>>85025312>movie poster cardsI like how they look :)>>85025373Thanks, it's probably my favorite deck to pilot and it performs fairly well so I'm really proud of it.
How do cards get crunched out?What does that even mean.
>>85025609Cards have a number in the bottom left corner.Cards in a set are ordered by color and then alphabetically.Oracle of Mul Daya is a mono green card revealed to be number 154Rampant Growth is a mono green card revealed to be number 155.That means that there are definitely no mono green cards beginning with P or Q
>>85025631Oracle of Mul Daya is in this? Aw sheet, it really is!
was nicky crunched out?
>>85025757>hate this art>dat booba tho
>>85025631>Reprucussions crunched out.RIP
>>85025776Almost as if someone took the image and made some edits.
>>85025830lol I didn't even see the edit looking at the thumbnail. It has notable booba for WotC even in the unedited version.
>>85025757holy based booba editdoing the Lord's work
>>85025758That Nicky yes.
>Me? Why yes I play Intet chaos control. What gave it away?
Not really a good rare, but at least also not total garbage.
>>85025975Because the set doesn't have DFCs
>>85026131>single print edh only barely playable rareit is total garbage and will hit $0.59c really fast
>>85026155It's still leagues above the lieges and other rares. The fact that it can even drop in price puts it above others. Part of that is also because it hasn't been reprinted yet.
>>85023074>I can finally get one now that it's getting reprinted
>>85024399You need a Goblin Assassin on your list, stat
Why are people on Spelltable pretty consistently awful to play with?
>>85026331Because people who play EDH are pretty consistently awful to play with
>>85022727Bolas redemption arc would make him incredibly uncool, Anon. A digbag nazi dragon with a holier-than-thou attitude is his ENTIRE appeal
>>85023004I think it would show progression in the plane and there could be new ideas pushed out from a plane that got beaten into submission by Nico Bolas.Wizards already made ANOTHER fucking big city plane already even without going back to Ravnica
>>85022751>muh AvengersAs someone who didn't jump on the Marvel hate-boner bandwagon only when it was in vogue, and actually HASN'T seen any of those queer movies past the first Avengers film, why does everyone always draw this parallel? And even if it might be true, why is Bolas mimicking pop culture bad, but Yawgmoth get a pass despite being a much more aggregious example of that very critisism?
>>85026386Ravnica should have had the Guilds join forces and become the new Shard setting. They even sort of hinted toward that during WAR as well.
>>85026551Generally it's that the Gatewatch thing, a collection of "heroes" coming together for a certain cause, was being pushed around the same time as the MCU was doing its strides, with the gatewatch story kinda ending in this big event, like infinity war, with War of the Spark.
>>85026185After selling the product they will ban it.
>>85022672that's not a question, retard
>>85026572"It took the collected efforts of every leading character, multiple betrayals, AND the death of a few key characters to achieve," isn't the jobber status a lot of people want to make it seem. Plot armor convenience and lazy writing beat Bolas more than anything that actually happened in WAR, and that's not exactly Bolas' fault.
>>85023074Waiting for the day they print card like this.
>>85026663Either that or that player losing life would also be cool.
>>85026663There's this, I guess
>>85024371If I were "an artist" I would draw something like this and the let SUMMER bloom in the view.
>>85026663>An opponent>Not a playerGay
just come some new cards in the mail
>>85024130are you aware of the embedded files in your gif?
>>85022727>redemption arcFuck you no.>>85022978The only problem in WAR is that he didn't win. I wanted him to win and BTFO everyone. I don't care if he got Thanos'd later by the Jacetice league. I really miss multi-set blocks ot tell narrative though, it makes everything so fucking flat story-wise.
>>85026843we now post more underrated cards to fuck with treasurefags
>>85024982They've changed it several times. For a long-ass time it was partial paris(take a few cards, put them aside. Draw that many, shuffle the rest back in) but it was abused so now most people do 1 free then draw 6 or something.
>>85023191>>>85023191>sweet drems sleep tight smol Elenda
>>85027098first mulligan is free, from then on you will always draw 7 and tuck the numbers of times you mulligan
>>85027091I tried peddling pic related months ago, and people just called me an investorfag.
>>85022672>Tqcombo, living death, or getting out mycosynth lock and swinging for game with an 8/8 trample that I can cast without activating abilities.Hidden tech is stealing a thoracle with agent and then decking myself with Demonic Consultation or Tainted Pact.Can also just swing for game if playing against decks that durdle/can't deal with an 8/8 trample early. Against stuff the deck does badly against I always try a few mulligans to see if I can get winter orb/contamination (or a tutor) to force the game to a crawl.>>85023422You have clearly never seen my mycosynth hogaak deck. It needs a lot of work but it's getting there. 2x2 reprints going to give me the meth I need to go even faster>>85023510rec sage and artifact/enchantment removal usually deal with grave hate pretty well and some also give you a creature to convoke.Deck is really powerful if you can consistently get hogaak out turn 2 and start focusing down a player with commander damage. Berserk just got a secret lair so hopefully the price drops. It helps with this exponentially and doubles as removal in a pinch - I still need to get one for this deck
>>85026843This card is based and becomes more relevant every day
>>85027027That's a very nice picture you have there, anon.
>>85027270So full disclosure, Im accepting the risk because Im going to be playing the deck with newer players a lot. Most of my disappointment with patriarch has been the way it just wins off of sac outlet + reanimate almost any of the devotion to black. Patriarch himself is being rebuilt into Burakos BW to keep my janky clerics and wizards in a playable deck while the good parts are combining with the good parts of a BUG deck to make Hogaak. I call it middle power but my shop is largely made of players who started in the last year so nobody runs any real grave hate and games all go to turn 20 if none of the workers are playing the ardenn deck the store lends out
>>85027431>games all go to turn 20painHogaak is really good in low power groups at least.
>>85027367thalia is so pure
>>85026551I’m not an expert on marvel stories or magic lore Bolas has a very uninspired design and very generic character. “Le ebil dragon”, “but he’s basically a human because of how he’s depicted and how he acts”just very boring and gay; what is his goal, world domination?even the color palette of the picture you posted is reminiscent of the washed-out digital cinematography that they use for those movies>why is bolas mimicking pop culture badDo you prefer mimicry to something novel or even the least bit intriguing?>Yawgmoth gets a passhow was yawgmoth mimicking contemporary pop culture of that time
good morning /EDH/ it's time for your morning spoiler dump.Starting off strong today
>>85027493I know right. I too am enjoying these completely very pure images of Thalia.
Another RKF piece
>>85027549What's with RKF and those colorful smudges? His older art was so cooler. Big fan of Dakkon.
>>85027573That’s kind of always been his thing. The card prints for Legends were just hugely desaturated for some reason, more or less across the board.
Memnarch checking in. If you want to win make lots of mana and steal the board. Combos I use:Grim monolith + Power Artifact Palinchron + High Tide Pili-pala + Grand Architect (i don't run this anymore)Usually I just use a tutor effect to find one of my other pieces or Ballista/Staff of Domination to finish it out. Muddle the Mixture is the best tutor to get the Grim/power combo since they're both 2 with the transmute effect. Also mycosynth lattice + karn lockout/mana color fixing. The rest of the deck doesn't matter when you win with the big boy -Memnarch. See you all next thread
>>85027516Evil dragon's are based as fuck, especially ones that rule an ancient Egyptian plane of existence and creates an army of worshipping cultists that submit themselves to eternal servitude via lazotep coating. His goal is to get back his full power as a Planeswalker pre-mending, because Bolas is only a fraction of what he once was, and is obsessed with power due to being the runt of the Elder Dragons (since him and Ugin were born twins, causing them to be the runts of the litter). Not saying it's great writing, but it is fairly unique once you get past the surface level cliches.Yawgmoth, and the Phyrexians in general, are quite literally Borg/X-files ripoffs, and is the same machine hivemind gimmick that was worn out even by the late 90's.
>>85027516Old Phyrexia was literally just the Borg in fantasy.
>>85027476>painIts not so bad, its really let me brew some nonsense since I dont have to think about solid win conditions and being able to play by turn 2. Ive been trying to get a few of them into pauper as a gateway to other formats to try and get some of them seeing ways to play the game that isnt ramp for 5 turns and slam 6 drops into each other. one dove straight into legacy and sold his edh stuff to buy into tin fins
>>85027621>>85027629Still, comparet these with the new Elenda and Marchesa. The pallets are much more consistent and contour is much better.
>>85027706I'm not saying you're wrong (especially about contouring) but do keep in mind, we don't yet have the high quality card scans for 2X2 yet. His new pieces could clean up quite a bit. If anything, his style probably loses more than a cleaner one with a lot quality image.
>>85027637>>85027642megalomaniac with a horde of undead sounds pretty generic
>>85027637I've been binge watching the X-Files over the past few weeks and it's crazy how blatant the ideas got lifted for mtg. I can see in particular how the season 4 episode Tunguska molded the entire Phyrexian aesthetic.
>>85027642>>85027762You fags sound like those "lIoN kInG rIpPeD oFf kImBa" sensationalists.>>85027633>t. Just woke up from 2012
>>85027686>ways to play the game that isnt ramp for 5 turns and slam 6 drops into each other.A lot of my friends still build decks like this despite the fact we've all been playing for like 6 years now. Worst thing is a few of them have spent a lot of money to double down on the hyper-durdle control meta that has accumulated over time. All but one of my decks are either win-fast or stax which has been absolutely dumpstering on the group lately since I've been fine-tuning them over the past month. A few of my decks (namely hogaak and a bladewing deck) can shit out a win turn 2-3 with the right hand or are just built to thrive in the durdle. Bladewing used to be an even better rakdos reanimator/combo list with Rograhk and Tevesh Szat but my playgroup bitched about it so much. Still exactly the same deck but with dragons and a less optimal commander.Recently convinced my friend who mostly plays budget to start building actually good decks that are designed to win fast and it has really shaken things up for the better. Like you I've also been trying (with little success) to get my group into pauper. Seems like one of the better ways to force them into getting better at deckbuilding/playing.
>Double niggers presaling for a little under $400Never thought I'd see the day when a set with double digit reprints is MASSIVELY overpriced considering all the $1 rare/mythics they put in to water things down. Maybe they'll finally learn if this thing crashes down to $200
>>85027893set sucks unless you're buying singles, hopefully after this and the baulders gate flop consoomers will learn their lesson
>>85027893>Maybe they'll finally learn if this thing crashes down to $200It won't. Too many whales will open boxes thinking that they're going to make bank pulling three Docksides.It'll sell well because paypigs are bad with money. We won't see the wallet fatique until later.
>>85027893Rudy says that there's barely any actual supply, so most likely it goes to the moon and fails to make any real impact in the singles market, making players pissed for years to come. Wizards is content to let a huge amount of staples stay as high as most people make in a day of work.
>>85027951>Rudy saysHe's going to say whatever benefits him.
>>85027874Ive been trying because we had a surge of interest in building cEDH a month or two ago after a year of playing literally nothing but draft and edh. Pauper is just the gateway drug, Id like to see them trying pioneer or proxying legacy decks or something. Its all young men 15-23 so theres a competitive spirit in there that isnt being met with edh durdlefests, Im just trying to pull it out of them and let it flourish in other formatsI actually have a pile of budget lists ($150 and under) I originally made for the shop to put some power in the meta on a budget but most of them didnt take
>>85024168Fling those little shits!
>>85024371It is the worst version of the art, if for no other reason than a human shouldn't be the focus of a Summer Bloom.
>>85024651>Part of the reason that it was so unpopular was because it was very in depth when most people just wanted a low effort coat of paint and ninjas like everything else.Exactly this. The dumb casuals wanted to see notNaruto and notBattousai and WotC essentially said "No, you deserve better" and created an interesting world with it's own lore and settings that was merely influenced by JapanAnd then for NEO Kamigawa they said "fuck it, we've been pandering to the LCD for over a decade now, let's keep going" and you got notAfro Samurai
>>85024534I'm of the opinion that Eldraine has more or less replaced it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a bunch of one-off callback cards every now and then.
LOOK HOW THEY RUINED BLOODBRAID ELF AHAHAHAHAHAH
>>85024982I've always played unlimited mulligans, within reason. If you're sitting there reloading your hand more than three or four times, you're probably fishing for a god hand and definitely trying my patience.
>>85024408The level of irony here is so thick that you can slice it with a knife.
>>85028111We briefly tried "free mulligans if you have 1 or less land" at that shop but within a week we had people dropping to 25 lands
Whatever happened to the anon that was trying to build an anti-dragon deck? Did he kill himself adter losing to Tiamat or something?
>>85026046Post your list
>>85028109>DOUBLE NIGGER Masters 2022 (checkum)This fucking set...
>>85028143Building an entire edh deck around hating a single tribe without black isnt going to go very far, not many people are willing to drop money on esoteric shitposts
>>85028061I prefer the Portal version of the art but this one has flavor text from "Love Song of Night and Day" which is always a plus. Yes, it's a shame we rarely get landscapes in the art of nonland cards. I guess WotC feels we can't relate or appreciate to a piece without some figure in it. I don't think anyone ever liked Untamed Wilds for the little dude looking over the horizon because WE'RE supposed to be that little dude
>>85027091Me on the left realizing I just crop-dusted the entire office by farting right before leaving the bathroom
>>85027543I'm surprised they bothered to re-use Seb's original piece instead of commissioning something new for the regular version.
>>85028206he's still with them and redditors are seething
>>85028109My statement from last thread still stands: Argyle's Bloodbraid Elf is still untouchable
>>85028212Really? So Farewell wasn't the storybook ending we thought it was after all.
>>85028109I wonder how much they seethe over never being able to beat the original.
>>85028131>we had people dropping to 25 landsVictory at any cost, I guess.
>>85028109Yeah that definitely looks like an elf berserker and not at all like a model in a perfume ad.
>>85028259I’m going to level with you, anon: the original is honestly kind of shit.
>>85028169>Untamed Wilds, Giant Spider, Giant Spider>OVERRUNDamn I miss that game
>>85027951I doubt it, he's thinking it'll be like the last Double Masters, but A. That set was in pandemic height, there's not way distribution will be thay fucked upB. Every mythic in that set pretty much was a slam dunk so you'd pretty much make your money back. Not play the retarded coin flip game with the cards in this set.
>>85028278That's what I mean though, I wonder how much that bothers them.
>>85028278This is pretty forgettable and it's still better than the new one
>ugly negros for double the pricemiss me with that shit. Back to the printer with me
>>85028169>I guess WotC feels we can't relate or appreciate to a piece without some figure in it.Green is just so conducive to great landscape shots though.
>>85024534Why? They'd just pozz the fuck out of it.
>>85028309There are at least three things here that bother me, and none of them are the fact that he's black. You do you, though.
>>85023034I'm still mad he's not allowed to put his signature in anymore.
>>85028309>>85028336>Toothbrush in the kitchen sink>Frying pan clearly scratched>What appear to be tomatoes not inside the fridgeAm I missing something?
when is WotC gonna rip off wakanda for a setthey already have stolen a ton from M*rvel already
>>85028372>anime>dragons nest>painted fingernails
>>85023210I thought Wizards wasn't allowed to use that one anymore because it's racist.
>>85028278It works for me. Soldiers at war tend to look like shit. If you show me a "berserker" who weaves body fluids into her hair and they look clean and unblemished, I'll call you an idiot. The fact that every new character looks like a cosplayer is part of what's killing magic's flavour.
>>85023355Who what and why?
>>85023210yeah not that art though
>>85028372Real frying pans get scratches and there's nothing wrong with it you non stick Teflon faggot
>>85028372Thats a sponge brush>Scratched to shit teflon pan>Fruit basket with fruit outside it>Needlessly expensive hipster coffee thats worse than folgers or chock>Dried up sponge that needs tp be replaced down despite having a sponge brush>AoT hoodie>Stove hood way too high for the stove>Random rocks on the counter
>>85028403>A Richard Garfield GameFuck me, SOVL overload
>>85023730Full control and lockdown. Arcane lab, bitterblossom, all the recurring creatures like bloodghast, approach of the second sun or something as your wincon.
>>85023914Zada can be built for like 40 dollars or so and stomp tables pit of nowhere. I also like Sai and just using a lot of cheap equipments and an awthermage/mystic Forge and Aetherflux or Morrison Besieged.
It still boggles my mind that we get flavor text referencing the Song of All to this day.
>>85025312What of them those are dank cards
>>85026159The liege cycle getting a reprint was very good actually.
>>85028490Why is that weird? WotC is constantly mining old lore/mechanics for memberberries
>>85028533The lieges are just a precursor to the Return To Lorwyn set next year. Same reason for Oonas Prowler and Doran reprints.
>>85028559The timescale of it all, I suppose.
>>85027951I dont even get how Rudy could make a claim about the supply of 2XM when it's not out
>>85028564Nice headcanon. I might believe it if you can come up with a way to tie Lorwyn/Shadowmoor into the ongoing New Phyrexia angle though. Let's hear your pitch.
>>85028609He almost certainly has insiders.
>>85028131Why are EDH players such fucking faggots
>>85028143I am still here. The dexk list is pretty much complete its just whenever I wanna pull the trigger and actually buy the cards. It's brion stoutarm, hivis and rashida scalebane with lots of untap effects and other ways to steal creatures. Nothing special but it will do the job against ur dragon faggotry. I also have a wort raidmother deck in the works that seeks to ruin my friends fun cause they are all flying faggots and group suicide with hurricane and copying it
>>85028652Oh and it also has a few stax-like pieces that target fliers and big creatures. My dragon friend is a big gambler so I'm hoping I can strike a bet with him in the near future and get him to pay for his own demise
Is Elixer of Immortality as good as I think it is for mono black? I run a lot of symmetrical discard and some mill here and there and it can be hard to get back noncreatures that I want from the GY. With black tutors I can just fetch something from my deck after using elixer, and the lifegain helps soften the blow from all the life I lose doing Black things.
Trannies literally can't see why this art is good and modern MtG art is bad. They think we automatically hate it due to black people
>>85028396True, there is a point where individuality is just nonsense
>>85028564This is what I'm hoping for and why I think its good. Lorwyn shadowmoor needs to be revisited after the tranny menace is put to rest though
>>85028668I only now noticed that she's got an absolute death grip on the birb. But yes, it's a good piece.
>>85027548Why does she have a moe blob face
>>85027761Generic isn't bad per se, but get back to me when you can find someone else with a horde of undead egyptian mummy terminator cultists.
>>85028403>>85028380Return to Mercadia would unironically be incredible.Especially since it's the last bastion of the Thran/old Phyrexia influence that was never destroyed.
>>85030540A return to Mercadia would be fucking kino only if they hired all of the old artists from that time. Even better if they reintroduced the old borders too.
>>85026331because you’re playing with randoms and not us
>>85027229this is middling for dealing with treasures. it just encourages them to use the tokens on the same turn they get them.