A thread for people who play single player role playing games, with Mythic GME and other systems derived from it.Previous thread: >>84889824Discord: https://discord.gg/JKeyHcUFAQ/Q&A, links, topics, and games: https://rentry.org/srpgg
reposting from last threadDo I miss a table for something very obvious that I should have thought of ? I'm on session 7 of my game so I think I've encountered or thought of most of what can happen but I might have goofed
>>85021765Looks like you’ve got a good thing going there, but personally I like a simple “what’s different?” table, for altering expectations about something.
>>85022681twene is nice, I lifted that for my solo toolset too
>>85021713solo?more like gaylo lol.
>>85019812Thanks for the suggestions, I'll take a look at 'em. I've actually been thinking of reviving an older solo project, too, only thing is I need to get a printer before I can get back to it.It'll give me a chance to test some new setting rules I've written up.
>>85021713What would be a good ruleset to use for making a solo fleet combat experience?
>>85021765Hey that's pretty cool anon.
>>85024257I think opr has solo rules for their ship game.
>>85021713>Playing at a computerYou guys don't really do this, right?
>>85026780why risk someone finding the sex encounter journal?
>>85026780Taking notes is slow enough as it is, without writing it physically I do use a tablet instead though
>>85026780>he doesn't use his own software to streamline his playDo you even solo bro
>>85027332just looking at this makes me want to kill myself
>>85027348I could probably polish the UI now since I stopped adding so many damn buttons to try about 6 months ago but it would take at least 2 hours for a simple cleanup, and far more to make it nice
>>85027381do it and release it for us anon
>>85021765Based quilt engine player.
>>85023359You missed the last 2 threads, bro. But nice to see you're back with us again.
Plot that the PC kind of just gets inserted into or a deeply personal plot that would not work if you were playing a different character? Where on the scale do you tend to fall?>>85023359Uh, solobros? Care to explain?
>>85027332Damn, fantastic stuff.
>>85027381Please do it and give it to us. I will fuck your wife in exchange.
>>85027332Been there, done that, ended up >>85027348
>>85026780>>85026780I don't, but I can see the appeal.If I was big on writing things out, I would use a software.
>>85027932Personal stories are better, but more difficult for me to see through.My most successful games were 'random generic PC is in a place. Roll for what is going on there'.Fleshing out the PC as I play, discovering the world and the plot as it unfolds.This is fun and easy for me, but not what I truly want to do. I want to play involved more structured stories, but I find it super hard to pull off. I only finish like 1 out of 5 of those I start. Most I just drop after scene 2 or 3.That's another thing. Playing without scenes is easier for me. The story just flows, but when I try to play something more story-focused that way, it just doesn't work.
>>85027932>deeply personal plot vs yolo insertionI've done both. My current style leans towards using deep characters, a plot or two that I find really compelling for the starting PC(s), and then letting the dice guide from there - for me a lot of the fun is having characters grow and face tough and rewarding decisions/experiences.When I started I tried the deeply personal and couldn't get it off the ground - I was still quite new - and moved to yolo insertions and shorter games while I tried out various systems and built up my own solo tools and techniques. Then I shifted back to more personal stuff but don't lay out too much in the beginning, other than fleshing out characters.Just dungeon crawling isn't something I've done in a while.
>>85027777yes please release
>>85027777>>85028510>>85028015>releaseI'll do it for myself and my /srpgg/ bros, will be a few weeks as I want to redo the UI from the ground up (plenty of buttons no longer in use) and make a modular dice rolling button area.>I will fuck your wife in exchangeWhat do you think this is, a Pathfinder thread?
>>85021713anyone else use a general format rather than set rules? I totally understand that having concrete rules provide a firm grounding for things and makes things feel cohisive, but sometimes I dont want to remember rules or make new ones so I do a vague thing like pic related. A basic interaction loop. set a wanted effect, how hard it should be to do (target number) and either do something incrementally towards it (lower that target number, usually by making an easier role), trying to complete it (challange tn), or changing strategy to something else (change effect).not fudging with bonuses or special effects, but what the narrative is describing.
>>85028967>I'll do it for myself and my /srpgg/ brosthe best of us
>>85029101Yes, but I don't really think about it when I do, I just do it. I find that some things come easy, some are harder. What is easy to me, I don't try to explain it, even to myself, or make a big deal out of them, I just do them.But I do 'vague things' similar as you for other things. Mostly for the big picture stuff. Or when there's a lot of conflicting motivations, relationships and NPCs in the adventure. It helps to put all of it down on paper to see all the possibilities.
>>85029101TNs are my pet peeve, they're the faggiest thing to ever see the light of day. If the difficulty of something is set, why are you even rolling ? You know what your character did to prepare for task and you know the difficulty of said task, why are you rolling dice ? Roll under characteristic makes sense because it's related to a set thing (can my character mobilise enough X to achieve goal) but setting a TN by yourself is so innately biased that you don't ever actually need it.
What non-combat mechanics do you use that are actually fun? I mean game mechanics, not journaling or plot/GME systems.
>>85029101Sometimes, I like to use 2d6 for framing how expected or weird a scene, person, thing is7 is expected, 2 and 12 are very unexpected/weird and high is 'good' and low is 'bad' in polarity degreesThe stranger the situation is the more I shift the bands away from expected in the middle>>85029751Game of thrones social combat base mechanics (not their weird attribute/dice system). It lets you play out any/all social encounters where people are influencing others, it's fun and instead of just deciding or rolling a % outcome you get more to it.
I like a lot of the mini-games from the old James Bond rpg. Seduction. Chase. Gambling.
>>85029801was meant for>>85029751Lifepath are also great for character generation and for between adventures. I should make my own. I've used the ones in Star Trek, Traveler and Mekton 2. And a few fantasy setting ones online.
>>85029427eh… I dont really agree. Mind you I sometimes use role under as well, like blackhack style, but I think its fundementally a question of framing. under characteristic sets things relitive to your ability (subject), while tn sets things relitive to the task (object). tn is more useful when a specific task might be undertaken by multiple subjects who each have their own aptitude. as it takes the chalange of the task in general modified by the subjects aptitude. while role under characteristic takes the characters aptitude modified by the task.I think tn is more immediately representative often, since the task at hand is more primary in ones mind then ones aptitude at a given skill.but again, essentially, mathmatically, they are the same thing. its simply difference in framing.
>>85029751same as >>85029101 lowering a target number or going for a goal i find engaging choice. Its kind of like poker where you can up the ante or fold. I like to set a high target number for something and try to balance the time spent lowering it, and actually achieving it. all the while there is a time limit or someone else is doing the same to you. I use it a lot in social encounters. when do you want to risk “going for the kill”. If you spent 3 turns lowering a target number, the oposition might have already beat yours.
>>85029751a custom weather table, set 6 likely steps from sunniest to stormiest,(eg drizzle to monsoon), roll 1d6 at the start of session to determine starting weather, then everytime it's plausible, roll 1d6, 1 or 2 weather gets worse, 3 or 4 it stays the same, 5 or 6 it gets better>>85029851Yes, but in terms of framing, roll under is rolling against your own physical or mental limitation while rolling against a TN is basically checking if you prepared hard enough for the task, which is moronic in a solo RPG as you're the one imagining the task and having your character try and overcome it.
>>85030090I find it strange that you interpret the die roll as determining the characters level of preparation rather than the many random factors that influence success or failure at a given task.
Do you have any advice on running dungeon crawls?
>>85030090yah, but your not just doing that. a dice role ingeneral is about likelyhood of an outcome given any number of factors. your limitations just being one. the randomness of battle the challage of the process, hinderances , etc. rolling under your athletics for jumping over 3 feet or 9 seems unillustrative, unless you put a mod to deliniate between the diffuculty of the tasks. at at that point it’s essentially just a targetnumber but you start with your ability then add/subtract mods and geberal challenge instead of the general challange then add/subtract mods and your ability modifier.
>>85026780i would try but i dont know any good software things
>>85032219there is this really underground program called notepad thats pretty great for solo. its kinda hard to find. Though I think there is an apple rip off called “notes”. If you are linux, your fucked frankly.
>>85028967I'll fuck...your dad? You? Honestly just point me in the right direction.
>>85031000I think this is the easiest way to start solo. Dungeons. First time? Use a pre-existent map. Roll d6 to find out which way the character/party goes. (right, left, front, w/e)Ran into a creature? check reaction. Don't have a table; test some charisma attribute. Or roll d6 again (odd parley, even hates you)I find that very few abstract interactions will take place
>>85033200awful advice, anyone not profoundly autistic is going to think solo is shit after 2 minutes of that
>>85033200yah, maybe if you want to be a dm rather than a solo player.>>85031000something like this. or if you want the feel of dungeon crawl id recommend playing through sceptor of the underworld.
Anyone here played Legendary Kingdoms? What do you think about it, and how it compares with Fabled Lands?Also, been looking for Crown and Tower, but no luck in the share thread.
>>85031000B1 In Search of the Unknown and B2 Keep on the Borderlands. Even if you don't want to use B/X D&D, the dungeon exploration procedures are extremely useful if you want a deeper experience. B1 & B2 teach you how to stock a dungeon and how to create wandering monster tables. B2 also provides guidance for factions and presents a starting town (the titular Keep) as an example headquarters.It may be more heavy lifting than you're looking for, but Basic D&D+B1 & B2 has the codified dungeon crawl rules. X1 Isle of Dread is also useful for teaching yourself what's necessary for hexcrawls, in case you're interested.
>>85036432if you are talking about old tsr stuff, ad€d dungeon masters guide also has a rando generating systems for making a procedural dungeon for more player focused play as well.
>>85036549Indeed. The 1e DMG has a lot of decent material, but it can be a pain to find it due to the way it's organized.You don't strictly need a dungeon map, you could do point crawls instead. Upshot is you have less to keep track of.
>>85036652i agree the dmg being oddly organized and byzantine, but the procedual dungeon part is actually well formated. I think the same, or near the same system was also published in issue one of the strategic review. though of course it doesnt have monster stats.bonus, i think its also the issue that introduced mindflayers.
>>85036776Nice.Either way, the rules are useful for their intended purpose, and I strongly encourage anyone interested to check them out.
>>85021713>>85036432speaking of, it would be a bit of a project, but I always wanted to tailor older d&d modules into a more solo freindly reading experience. mostly by formating the information in a heavily abstracted cyoa. Where the choices are really broad and the info is relayed to you as if yiu were a player rather than as a universe controling games master. stuff like>if you defeated the goblins go to section b3 if you ran away, go to b4or>if you would like to know more about the keep, you can ask the wizard by going to e2, if you would like to see various goings on in the keep go to e6, if you have retrieved item 62, event s4 occurs in the cortyard.
>hmmm what should I post to keep this thread alive?>*roll d100 twice*>*check Mythic's action-subject tables*>"Adversity Possessions"Are there any play aids, digital or physical, that you ceased to use because they got in the way? I used to use Roll20 instead of minis and terrain but found myself spending way too much time just setting up character tokens and maps and shit. Easier to place a few random objects and minis on my desk and use that as a battlemap.
>>85038699I'd rather spend time setting up Foundry Vtt than touching that shitfest of roll20
>>85038699Tried using Obsidian for that but it doesn't works correctly for that.
>>85033200That's one way to play, but I find that's it's too GM focused and like a board game to really showcase the potential of solo gaming.Most people want to play as the PC, not the GM. At least at first. And they want the surprises that comes with an emergent story rather than the quasi-linear board game experience.A good compromise would be Barbarian Prince, maybe? It's mostly from the PC's POV, his very board game-like, but still has lots of surprises in store for the player.
>>85038699various journal/info software that I tried and tossed until I found Obsidian
>>85038699>roll20I use it as quick battlemap like random objects on a desk, throwing stuff on there and drawing anything I need poorly
>>85038699>Are there any play aids, digital or physical, that you ceased to use because they got in the way?AI Dungeon
>>85033642So... everyone here should be fine with it is what you're saying?
What do you do when the dice say the story should go in a direction you have no interest of roleplaying in?My way is to to reroll, but interpret the result in a more negative way for my PC than what the dice says. So a positive result would have some drawback or complication added to it. A negative result would be more so or have more than one negative things happening at once.My second way to deal with this, if I have trouble seeing a way out of the situation I put myself into with a single roll, is to ignore everything, put myself back on track by fiat and roll a very negative random event or two, depending on how much I had to twist things around to get back to something I want to play. Basically each positive random event used to stir the story my way gives me 1 random negative event.Let's say I get captured and sent to the mines. I have no desire to play a break out of jail story. I decide that the caravan transporting us to the mines gets attacked by a makeshift army of the surrounding villages banding together to get their people back from the slavers. That's 1 negative random even tot roll. But I decide that I don't want to be mixed with the whole village/slavers thing. So I decide that my story picks up a week later as my PC gets to the city he was trying to reach when he was captured . A second negative random event to be rolled. Or maybe a third, if I feel like it makes more sense.All of that is mostly about oracle rolls, not rpg rolls. But if, for example, my getting taken prisoner is because of a failed combat or failed skill roll, I will also give myself some consequences aside from the oracle ones. Losing XP, having a wound that gives me some -1 on a stat, losing an ally (doesn't have to be death), whatever.
>>85041702Very good question.The way I approach it is this:If the most logical outcome is something I really don't feel like playing - which doesn't come up often - then I create a few outcomes that are comparatively bad, assign them %'s, and roll unless something really makes sense to me and I go with it.>But I decide that I don't want to be mixed with the whole village/slavers thing. So I decide that my story picks up a week later as my PC gets to the city he was trying to reach when he was captured . A second negative random event to be rolled. Or maybe a third, if I feel like it makes more sense.These outcomes don't sound comparative to me, as part of what makes a good story are the bad, challenging parts. The caravan being attacked and sending the PC to slavery is bad - the PC will experience and learn new things about people, themselves, and come out changed. Delaying the story a week is not going to give you a similar outcome, nor will a wound or losing XP. Something like, losing transportation, supplies, and finding yourself in a bad position (ally poisoned/sick/severely injured, terrible weather) and having to make tough choices would roughly equate, to me.
>>85037530Pro: Awesome for the rest of usCon: It would be even worst for you to try and play them after doing thisThe best of both worlds would be having a small group of people doing it and using only modules that the others haven't read already. Then giving the finished modules to the other players to play through.One strange way to go about playing an old module might be using the NPCs and maps, but using a cut up sheet of paper to read random passages of the module without spoiling yourself.Maybe on some roll of the dice, you roll for a page and blindly put the sheet with the small square cut out of it on that page and read what is there?Probably too random and impractical, unless the module is divided into chapters.
>>85034397With a few tweaks, this template will be perfect for a Genesys-driven solo experience, narrative dice and all. Thanks for sharing!
>>85021713Pushing toward the endStill going strong>pre-alpha - Revised Events: Things- Revised Events: People>I've got the idea to add trading as rules,but it gets bigger and bigger, so I'll add it AFTER I'm done with this.
>>85042597>genesysThis is my system from now onI've played all types but I like using the narrative dice of Genesys becauseA) it has very smooth outcome distributionsB) you can derive narrative nuances from the rolls such as succeeding due to a bonus die from conditions, which would give more weight to that in the outcomeI still like a simple 2d6/1d100 Trav/Mythras style as my second go to, and it's what I'm currently using, but I'll switch back at some point in this campaign
>>85032624I like a go-getter
>>85027332While the gui is absolutely disgusting, your work definitely deserves some praise, reminds me of old days of computing when people actually wrote their own software tools, just like you are doing.Some suggestions for the gui, if you'd like to clean this up and put it on-line:1) use tabs for the different categories2) add a file edit view etc. to better organise some of the options3) implement a search for a specific command/button, to allow quick jumping to the desired buttons and reduce jumping around the program4) make a two column modular window, allowing the user to pick what tab/content he wants in these two columnsYou could use more columns or even implement some more powerful tiling system, but in real life document organising we use two columns usually so it comes natural to most people.Good luck on working on your toolkit, wether you decide to share it or not, and many compliments for making your own program.
>>85021713First time doing solo stuff here, but I did have a few questions I didn't see answered in the FAQ.Biggest question being, would you recommend doing any solo 5E games with multiple characters, maybe 2 or 3 instead of just one?And would you recommend 5E as a system to use for solo play, or is it not good for it?
What do you all use to keep track of your character's harems?How do you generate a diverse selection of female NPCs to enslave and capture?Any interesting quests or stories based around establishing or cultivating a harem?Any good tables or oracles for harem master/Conqueror style of play?
>>85047887Followup to this anons question, which D&D edition do you think gives the best solo play (either with a small group or preferably a single character)?I did some with 5e at lower levels with a single paladin character. It worked fine enough but staying alive was tough without a few other party members. Instead of just drying, I would see if the oracle could have someone rescue me from death like a passing elf or whatever then take the story from there.Likewise, I was curious if there are any systems that lend themselves well to a dungeon crawl with plenty of fighting, loot, xp, etc. I guess something with a bit of an MMO or ARPG feel to it. Progression and making my character stronger is one of my favorite parts of TTRPGs. I'm considering just rolling with D&D since I've never gotten to the level cap before. I never tried 4e but I hear it tried to capitalize on the WoW craze so it might have some of what I'm looking for if someone can confirm.
>>85048033simulating a harem as individual npcs sounds like a chore, you’d probably want to run it as a faction with a couple of notable npcsif you’re going around enslaving women, I’d assume they want to not be slaves and eventually you have 5+ characters you have to keep track of trying to fuck you over while you’re off doing whatever, fuck thatare there any games that handle slavery mechanically? I know tales of gor has slave handling as a skill but iirc it never goes into any kind of explanation or mechanical structuring of what the fuck it even does, it’s just there as a skill and it’s up to the gm to deal with it
>>85048033>Any good tables or oraclesI got ya anon. Enjoy.
>>85048163>no facial attractiveness>no lip size>no vulval plumpness>no butthole colouration apply yourself
>>85047887>>85048103Any system can be used for solo. Even the most complex ones. You just have to approach a mechanic or skill roll you don't want to bother with, if it's too complex, with an oracle roll instead. Saves time
>>85046210>use tabs for the different categoriesI like it>make a two column modular window, allowing the user to pick what tab/content he wants in these two columnsI like itOne of the issues I need to address is a modular dice area that allows the user to write their own button. I have a bunch of different systems thrown on there as I tried them all; having a modular dice area that lets you set simple scripts for rolling and assigning to a button is needed for general use.>menuYep
>>85048177>body rolling tablesThis is something /srpgg/ should tackle
>>85047887Everything can be use to solo, even a lone solo engine without an rpg.But I would suggest this:Use 5E rules as much as possible when you can instead of the solo engine.Use a very light solo engine.Don't try to play a published module. It's actually pretty hard to do, no matter the rpg. But you can use the maps and NPCs from one and tell a different story with them. You can even mix and match maps and NPCs from different modules.It's best if you keep the stats of NPCs, but let the solo engine determine their personality, reactions and goals.If you feel like knowing the maps and the NPC stats in advance is "cheating", you could make an INT test to see if your PC figures out something that you have knowledge of because you're the "GM."You could even play 5E without a solo engine.I used to play Call of Cthulhu solo before I knew it was even a thing. Luck rolls used as a sort of oracle roll and Idea rolls to see if my PC figured out stuff. It wasn't ideal, but it did the job back then. Too bad I was trying to play published modules only. I could have had so much fun if I tried to make my own stories.MUNE is a very light solo engine that would work for 5E.I would post it, but it's bigger than 8MB? wtf, it's only 5 pages long!Have a Zathrum instead. It's simple enough.
>>85048161>are there any games that handle slavery mechanicallyNot in the TTRPG space. If you want to handle the mechanics of it I suggest checking out Jack o' Nine Tails wiki (or the game) as it gives a layout for different personalities and progression. It's pretty nuanced overall. You could build a simple shell using it, but it would involve adding a number of mental attributes if you wanted to get deeper.ToG handles it by rolling the handling skill vs WP, then progressing that up or down until completion while assuming you know how to flavor the rolls - it's not good.
>>85048103>>85048103The farther you go, the better for solo. OSR style gaming is very solo friendly since it's more about players doing the smart thing (you use the oracle instead of the GM) and loot. You don't have to fight as much, unless you want to or are very unlucky, and you're rewarded for smart thinking and planning. You can do stuff automatically just by saying you're doing them that more recent editions would require a feat or a skill to even attempt in the first place, like looking for traps. Aside from the low HP at first level, it's easier to survive as a solo PC in OSR.At least that's my take on it. Maybe I just really like the older D&D editions and it's coloring my perceptions, idk...
>>85050580I agree, though with a caveat that imo C&D just isn’t very good for solo in general and OSR tends to be too simplistic for a satisfying solo experience for me. As much as I dislike how Ironsworn replaces the GM/oracle with a rigid, limited, not overly evocative or interesting prompt system in a lot of places, I feel it preserves the spirit of OSR to a large decree while also having the breadth of mechanical character options that OSR usually lacks. Too bad about the combat being the least satisfying thing I have experienced in a TTRPG.
>>85051128Combat in Ironsworn isn't that bad once you get the hang of it, but it's not my thing either. There's just something about progress tracks that irks me a little. They can be fine for Vows, but I don't like them for combat.When I played Ironsworn, I would try to sneak attack or snipe people as much as possible just so I wouldn't have to use the combat rules.Maybe it's a better combat system for people who like to write a lot of prose while playing?
>>85051238I feel the “battle” move was made for people who don’t like progress tracks combats.
>>85051238I have the hang of it, I played it quite a bit, and it’s fine for fighting groups or having an epic fedora duel, but it drags everything out when you’d expect it to go down quickly in the circumstances and your character is either stupidly ineffectual or you use the battle roll and wonder why you even rolled rather than hand waving it.Even scene challenges are better for combat than the actual combat mechanic. Starforged just made it worse, too.It’s not really the progress track for me, I just find it extremely poorly designed on the mathematical level. Ironsworn combat is fairly deadly unless you pad it out with spirit, supply etc. yet it just drags on and on and if you try to wrap it up before filling the track you’re running a significant risk of losing for no real reason.
>>85021713Who needs lotion to masturbate? How have we reached this point: where did we go so wrong?
>>85051362Spit and shake was enough for my dad and it's enough for me.
>>85048103check out scarlet heroes
>>85051933How easy is it to divorce the system from the setting?
>>85051362I use olive oil. The character.
>>85051362As a teen my parents went on vacation for a week-end. When they came back, I had to deal with scabs for the rest of the month.
>>85042716>100 pagesImpressive. I'm gonna take my time to read it. Do you have some form of generic oracle in there as well as tables?
>>85052785Yea, I started doing this after you guys inspired me to do it. The rules should not require you to use an oracle, but I've added so much since I last playtested it, so I don't know if it's needed now. There's a subsection for interacting with NPCs, but beyond that, I don't think you'd need oracles, or I assume too much, I don't know.It's still just my notes at this stage. Once I'm done writing rules, I'll compile and typeset it and post it here for you all. >Currently writing "artefacts">The Lord’s Cradle: Carved as a pair of hands cupped in praying, this stone relic was used in the kingly human sacrifices of the heretical cults in the east. Sacrificed for the common good, after a certain period of ruling, the king’s fresh heart would then be placed in the artefact to be presented to the prime deity of the city state. Consisting of two separate parts (1 and 6 on a d6 roll), this artefact, once united can be used to press rightful claims on the throne a particular city state in the east, albeit for a limited (1d6 years) time, after which you are to be sacrificed.>Chalice of Eternity: Stolen from the Gate of God temple, this long lost artefact is thought to bear the secrets to ever-lasting vitality. Now in three separate parts (4-5-6 in a d6 roll), this item, once repaired, doubles the effect of any potion drank within it.
>>85027332WinForms with C# right?I've been learning ASP.NET with React and Typescript since I really enjoyed working with C# in Unity. I would like to make some desktop applications with C# but I primarily work with Debian over Windows. It doesn't seem like there's any good GUI frameworks or whatever for C# that are crossplatform. It's hard to tell since when I look online answers are sort of all over the place. I dunno if you or someone else might know a bit more about that. I think I saw something called Avalonia UI that might be useful. Xamarin as well but I believe that's just for crossplatform mobile applications and not desktop. Worst case I think I'll check out Electron since I haven't had a chance to use it yet and it seems to use tools I'm familiar with.Overall I am I impressed with how much shit you crammed in there and I feel inspired to keep at it with my own stuff
>>85053749>c#Yep. I chose it because it has a simple GUI interface and I didn't want to spend much time on it, as can be seen.Xamarin is (or was) solid for C# crossplatform from PC, Mac, iOS, and Android. I've done two projects a while back in it for clients.I'd personally suggest Python or Java for cross platform solo-focused projects, since once you go cross-platform UI development gets not so simple anyway as you're accommodating various screen sizes.>how much shit you crammed in thereLaziness and trying lots of stuff over 3 years. You can probably follow my solo journey of tools and systems. I did implement an NPC generator (leaned into generic rather than system specific) and tracker, too, as keeping those separate got annoying.
welp, see you fags in a month
is posting about solo wargames allowed on topic? I just picked up Five Parsecs, but been hearing a lot about stargrave's solo mode too
>>85060003yes, there are at least a couple of regulars here that play war games solo
>>85060003I'd like to hear about anyone running Five Parsecs
>>85060100Not american. Just was a horny teen is all.
>>85058693See you tomorrow. And by that I mean today.
>>85052886Generic oracles can be useful if you want to skip over some things that you don't want to play out in real time. Or if you don't have rules for something specific. But they are not really needed. Most older rpg that I know of handwaved these situations with a % roll or a d6 roll.I'm loving that your game uses cards btw.
>>85021765I've been using these for some time. I posted the alphabet table before. I'm sure someone independently came up with something similar in the past, it's not that original, but it is helpful to me.
>>85029786>Game of thrones social combat base mechanicsThe ones called Intrigue?
Post your IRL stats. Be honest. I've been running a portal fantasy type campaign using this bracket and have miraculously survived the jungle when I was kicked out of an annoyed wizard's tower with no provisions, supplies, or adventuring skills outside of twelve years in the boy scouts so far. Caught a hemophillic parasite from dirty stream water but haven't suffered from it yet. My current goal is to reach a port-city and find a job as an unskilled labourer without falling into a slaver's hands.>Str: 7 (-2)Fat 5'8 with no muscle definition, I'm working on it but nowhere near a farmer's frame.>Dex: 9 (-1)I'm physically clumsy but I have some knack for sleight at hand so it balances out.>Con: 14 (+1)My pain tolerance is in the top 1% and I've got a powerful immune system, but again, fatass, and have a very specific allergy.>Int: 14 (+1)I have a hard time forgetting things and am very good at holding patterns in my head and thinking on the fly.>Wis: 6 (-2)I'm an autistic retard that's only gotten as far as I have through paranoia, I have less common sense than the average krokodil appreciator.>Cha: 16 (+2)My voice supposedly sounds like the guy from Slingblade, I've never seen the movie and can't verify that but almost everyone I run into is positively predisposed to me and I'm able to talk to people, individuals or crowds, without any anxiety or preparation.I'm curious if any of you dudes have done anything similar.
>>85062623STR: 5DEX: 16CON: 7INT: 18WIS: 5CHA: 3
>>85062794I'm not as smart as people think I am, but I've been told all my life that I'm "supposed to be" a genius because of a fucking IQ test that fucking ruined my life.
>>85062862You are a free man living in a (presumably) free country. The test might have set some false expectations, but ruining your life is your own doing.
>>85062623>str: 136'0 186 lbs, played lots of sports growing up, jog daily and lift three times a week (not super heavy)>dex: 15very coordinated, did gymnastics as a child along with football, baseball, basketball, made all-star teams for all up until HS graduation>con: 10decent pain tolerance, had asmtha problems as a very young child, only been to ER since for breaking bones or skull fracture (4 times)>int: 15 (maybe 16)had iq diagnosed ~160 for gifted in kindegarten, always good with pattern recognition/problem solving>wis: 7I make a lot of bad decisions but my self-reflection has improved>cha: 15always good at making friends or being in a relationship, never had to chase a girl much, my wit is sharp and I've given multiple speeches to crowds for business and it goes over well
>>85062891The principal of our hs made my life so shit that I had to quit school. All because he had past experiences with "smart" people who didn't put any effort and he took it all out on me.What came after was my own doing, of course, but that was the first nail in the coffin.His fun was humiliating me in front of other people.
>>85062623str: 12Got some decent muscles I guessdex: 12I am pretty okay at cornholecon: 14I got quite a bit of enduranceint: 12I am rather clever I guess?wis: 10I got good intuition but bad common sensecha: 10Nobody really has any problems with me but I never stand out.
>>85063353Man, what a piece of shit. I'm sorry you went through that anon. Most of what we do in our lives is our own fault but other people have an impact, too, just look at any 300lb butterball. 9/10, their parents overfed and undernourished them. Shit's sad.
>>85063454I'm over it. Sort of. The only thing that bothers me about it now is that it was an adult doing this to a kid. I still don't understand that part. I see teenagers around and I would never do that to them, no matter how annoying I find them. There's still freakin' kids. With gangly limbs. But still...
>>85063353Sucks anonI had the opposite experience, I was put into advanced courses by teachers (without asking me) because I never tried. I was more engaged and enjoyed it.
>>85062623Str: 8 - weak, but not remarkably.Dex: 7 - stumble often enough that I'm good at correcting for it.Con: 11 - okay I guessInt: 18 - coasted through a maths degreeWis: 5 - and dropped out of societyCha: 3 - no friends, people used to forget I was there. Now I'm not.I'm not playing this faggot unless you force me to the way real life did.
>>85062623I'm interested in knowing how many people play as themselves in games.I can see it for horror games.
>>85062623STR 14 - ohp 80kg, dl 160kg, according to rules you can lift your max load over your head and double off the ground, 80kg is technically into 15, but only marginallyDEX 12CON 16 - this is mostly for con saves, my cardio is garbageINT 12WIS 6CHA 9
>>85063529Some people are just wired different and lots of spiteful people gravitate to places where they can access kids. I remember when I was in elementary school, because I was visibly a deadringer for the drunk driver that killed my teacher's daughter, she did everything in her power to make my life a living hell and she succeeded. I eventually poisoned her with some stolen laxatives and it caused enough of a stir that some higher-ups looked into it and I was transferred, but for a straight two years, there was something new every day. I only learned the reason years after the fact and I don't know if it was evil or just spite but I still haven't forgiven her. The past is in the past, I've gotten over it but it still stings, you know. Nothing I hate more than grown adults fucking with kids, I fucking hate it.
>>85063652>lift over headactually hang on, if a snap city c&j counts, I’m easily 15also, post your str
>>85063847>mfw 23 strength This guy is literally stronger than a hill giant
>>85063633I tried once, but it ended up a parody of some other character. People are a product of their environment, and it’s hard to translate that into fantasy.
I know we’ve had this discussion before, but is there a way to do a solo isekai (fuck off yankeefag) and have it be fun?
>>85063633>I can see it for horror gamesA PC based on me would be the first to die, my risk tolerance is high with too much risk seeking behavior
>>85064128are you a black guy or a slut? asking for a friend
>>85064121>isekaiHow different would it be compared to regular fantasy? I guess the answer to your question would depend on this.
>>85064076Agree with >>85065072, your setting is likely the most important part>>85064285I have some bad news for your friend
>>85062623>STR: 12I lift at the gym and train my strength because I want to better myself>Dex: 11Im really agile sometimes but clumsy others, it balances out>Con: 15I can take a hell of a beating and get back up, and I run for fun.>Int: 16Im smart and often told so by people>Wis: 8I act, then I think, all too often.>Cha: 8My looks are not the worst, but im shit in social situations.All this is assuming the base human is 10-11 in all stats
>these wisdom scoresif this thread was isekai'd together we'd all end up a murder hobo party that burned down the first inn we visited on accident with no cleric to heal us
>>85062623Luck: 5%skill: 15%Will (concentrated): 100% pleasure: 5%pain: 50%name memorability: 100%
>>85051128> I feel it preserves the spirit of OSR to a large decreeeh, i disagree almost entirely. Ironsworn is its own thing and its very much NOT like OSR in any concievable way. especially in spirit. Its explicitly narritive in character and about manipulating the meta currency of momentum. its osr in as far as Shadow if the deamon lord is osr or ruinequest or something. In that its generally fantasy I guess?In fact even in spirit of the law ironsworn is more accommodating for heroic fantasy or a western with its focus on vows and stuff.IDK what the obsession of calling everything osr is especially when it doesnt serve to enhance the particularity of something.gvvxg
I wanna run a team of supers like Justice League or Teen Titans, which system would give me the least headache?
>>85068113I wasn’t calling it osr, I said it preserves the spirit of osr in that it’s about solving problems intelligently while the very simple and basic mechanics serve to resolve such attempts at the GM’s discretion, as opposed to being a predetermined simulationist framework delving is also something clearly borne of old school dungeon crawling and while it is mechanically completely different, it’s a streamlined and reimagined approach to ideas that are fairly foreign to new rpgs
>>85068398I'd reccomend taking a gander at Mutant Future.
>>85048177Make one yourself, or link it.
>>85068398Prowlers and Paragons Ultimate EditionIt's a rules light game with d6 dice pools and has a power-building system. The resolution is narrative-control based by default, but there's an alternate method that's similar to Ironsworn's strong hit/weak hit.
You guys should come over to /cyoag/You could make solo campaigns and see what other people make of it
>>85052333really easyuse the system to run the game/creating character but use spells from D&D
>>85066529>implying a deity remotely adjacent to healing would want anything to do with us even if we had someone with minimum WIS
Mythic is cool but do any of you guys also do any mind fragmenting?
>>85062623I'm not familiar with DnD specifically (only played a total of 2 sessions and both were hacks), so I don't know how to answer this.
>>85068398Just rewatch the D&D episode of Teen Titan Go.Then do the opposite.
>>85068398The old TSR Marvel rpg is fun, easy to learn and fast to play. Even though it has a chart that you need to look up for rolls, it's pretty intuitive.There's a retroclone of it too.And it has good fan support still.https://www.classicmarvelforever.com/cms/Characters are easy to manage, so you can have more than a lone PC.
>>85042442thanks for the response.yah those seem like legit concerns. but a few things: b1 and b2 are pretty modular, given their beginner nature to help gms and plays. you can redesign the caves of chaos decently easy. and 2, i want to largely just reorient 80% of the content already there to better be enjoyed by a player and only adding like 10% of anything new. and thats largely a formating problem
>>85072660>he doesn’t mind fragmentwait, so how do you even play, just roll dice by yourself?
>>85074079If you just want to play right away, the old Fighting Fantasy rpg adventures are worth looking at (not talking about the gamebooks here).They're basic dungeon delves split into entries/rooms, so it's easy to play through them without spoiling yourself.I'm playing through The Wishing Well right now because your earlier post inspired me.It's easy to convert the stats to another rpg.There's also 5 Room Dungeon. There a pdf of the first 18 volumes of it out there.
>>85074171what is a mind fragment? Is like mind-mapping? I roll dice, draw cards, and I document the results and write the story.
>>85074302would love to learn what a mind fragment is any time you wanna share!
>>85073962>tsr marvel rpgThis shit is awesome, I used to collect cards that had these statlines when I was young. Would do my own little fights when I was bored using a d6, figures and legos.
>>85074604err... that's not the same rpg. I think you're talking about the one that came just after. It was cool, and the cards could be used as a 50/50 oracle according to the rules.I was talking FASERIP, the one with the cards was SAGA.I have very limited experience with SAGA. The cards might make it easy to solo, but I can't remember what the actual rules were like.
>>85074659The cards were collectible Marvel cards, not RPG, as far I know.
>>85074604>>85074659FASERIP also had about a dozen gamebooks with an ultralite version of the same rpg engine.
>>85074684Oh, okay, I got confused because there was a Marvel rpg using cards. Not a card game, an actual rpg using special cards.
>>85074715Yea, these were Marvel cards that had the exact same stat layout on the back.
>>85021713I highjacked world of dungeon’s pdf to use my own system. Its no longer PbtA, but a traveller like 2d6 get above target number. And I only use the 4 stats of str dex int and wis like normal. Con acts as HP and Cha act as moral and saving throw base (cha + relivent atribute).Has anyone else Highjacked a sheet for there own use?
>>85075116I don't think I've ever played a game as intended. I always hack them, create home rules, etc.The usual way is like you did, taking something from another system that I feel works better, or that I'm more familiar with.I'm not really into target numbers, so I usually use -/+ and roll equal or bellow a stat/skill.I really like the CON/CHA as HP/Morale. Makes a lot of sense to me.
Anyone else starts playing with an empty character sheet and fills it up as you play and discover more about the PC?
>>85062623You're now an npc in my game, godspeed anon
>>85075259> I really like the CON/CHA as HP/Morale. Makes a lot of sense to me.I know right? I feel like they usually feel boring or redundent. A strong character almost always has high con and its usually just for upping hp and maybe a saving throw. ANd Cha plain is usually either just not used, or its used in a route way as an artificial persuasion boost/just wisdom in disguise. And the worst thing is, in ultra light systems they usually reduce atributes to str dex and Int. when I think having 2 physical stats and 2 mental stats is just more balanced and actually parrelels to the classic 4 classes of fighter, theif, magic user, and cleric.> I'm not really into target numbers, so I usually use -/+ and roll equal or bellow a stat/skill.I can understand that and I have flip flopped between. THe thing with target numbers is that they are static from characters, so multiple creatures can attempt to adress the same tn.
>>85072660I meditate for half an hour and "split" if that's the correct word for it, my consciousness into two loose halves where the information accessible to one isn't neccessarily to the other, and then whichever is more cohesive I use to GM while the other, usually sporadic, I have hyperfixate on the story as an "anchor" to keep it from remerging and respond as needed to its prompts while immersing itself, and by proxy, myself. It took me a few months to get it down but I can do it fairly consistently and mostly casually now. Do you guys do anything like that?
>>85076467I get what you're saying, but you make it sound like this super special thing. It's pretty basic and you don't really need to meditate, unless you're very autistic about doing it "right."When I can't get into that headspace, I just use the oracle to ask if my PC acts a certain way.
>>85075960yes, I love doing this!
>>85076467bro I just suspend my disbelief and acknowledge, as a player, that I have knowledge my character does not have. Can you not do this without a ritual?
Are we allowed to discuss the creation of an erotic solo game here?I'd like to have someone to spitball ideas with.
>>85077180yesthe making of anything related to solo is encouraged
>>85077194Good.These posts got me thinking about how the thread lacks any sort of erotic body part table. Even a basic one for humans would be a decent starting point for people to use as a springboard.>>85048163>>85048177The system I've been using since high school (Basic Roleplaying) has an alright list of potential traits, but I'm sure their are better systems to lift things from.
>>85077180there is an entire general that is far more active for lewd games, they have 3-4 games being developed there though honestly they’re pretty shit imowhat’ve you got?
>>85077180>>85077194>>85077313I mean, I guess? but it seems more immediately pertinent to the literal lewd thread, which is in large part also about solo rpgs, so it seems more topical, and you will have more fruitful discussions there since thats what they talk about.Just in terms of thread distinctiveness, I think its better to take it to the other thread. if thats the main topic you want to discuss. If its in passing its fine.
>>85077639Nah, we've always encouraged all forms of solo discussions - especially making something. If they want to talk about it here that's fine.
>>85077313That distinctive characteristic function with the median getting fewer is interesting. Are there any current separated lists of negative features and positive?
>>85078161yes but im saying if the main point is lewd, it follows to discuss it in the lewd thread.if its particularly about lewd as it applies to solo I guess (like how to rng characteristics), but otherwise it just seems oddly inapplicable.
>>85082358I'm fine with taking my stuff to the lewd general, and maybe stopping by here to share anything that might at least interest people here.
>>85082358shut the fuck up nigger, if it’s a solo game, it fits here
>>85083450Thats literally what I said.>if its particularly about lewd as it applies to solo I guess (like how to rng characteristics)>>85083214Yah, thats usually how it goes. Lewd general basically becomes a pseudo-solo general too when someone hasnt bothered putting up a new /srpgg/ yet.
>>85077180We have a lewd general for that shit. Go there and stay there.
>>85060651good to know, didn't want to come in here and just shit up a general but this seems to be the best place to discuss is>>85060939have you tried it? maybe it's a bit of a weird place to start solo rpgs, but the system seemed just dialed in enough to be mechanically enjoyable, and there's lots of things encouraging building a narrative story alongside that.one question I have about solo gaming is: how much narrative writing/logging do you recommend when doing your first campaign?
>>85086079I tend to play a couple of quick test games to get the rules.After that I make a quick note describing the turn plus anything that seemed dramatic. "Everyone shoots the robots, far left goes down. Robots charge and knock Dave down." I want a record of it, but I'm there to play a game not write a novel.I mostly liked 5PFH but the skirmish part is a bit lacking in crunch for me. I tried some other systems but ended up getting distracted writing (and re-writing) my own.
Its probably been asked infinite times before, but I'll go with it anyway. I'm familiar with 5e (and pf1e somewhat) but have been interested in learning Pathfinder 2e . Which of the three would be better for a solo RPG and what are the pros and cons of each for solos specifically of there isn't a clear answer?
>>85087018assuming you understand how to play solo, the one you’re most familiar withotherwise start with ironsworn
>tfw I'm gonna play all the B-Movie settings as an actor over their careerI've only used ICFTLLLS for one shots a few times, but I'm really getting into the whole playing an actor thing now for some reason.Isekai and sliders/Rifts-type stories aren't really my bag, but I can work with a little meta gaming.
>>85087821this is based>riftsWhenever my current campaign ends I've been hankering for a Rifts style game. I've got a fan made setting book that is like 1,000 pages but there is no way I'm running the original system solo.
>>85087018Any game can be used for solo, but the better you know it, the better results.So use a game you know really well. It's the one that's the most solo-friendly.A few tips:A single PC at first is okay, but don't forget to give them some allies.Playing published adventures is harder than making one as you play.Try to use your rpg as much as possible. Some solo engines overlap with some rpg rules. If you're new to solo, try to default to your well-known rpg as much as possible. Use your rpg random tables, Morale rules, Reaction checks, etc. Watch a vid, read a solo session report, or listen to an audio actual play. That should give you a better idea on how to proceed than any how to guide.But remember that solo can be played in many different ways, it's just that as a beginner it's easier to follow the beaten path.Here's a good and popular little solo engine. But you can go even lighter or more complex. It mostly depend son how much you know your rpg. Trying to learn 2 complex systems at once isn't a good idea.
>>85087834There's an ultralite version of the Palladium system out there. Let me look it up.Man, I can't find it. It was something like Palladium Silver or something. 2 pages.I guess you could use TMNT as the core rules instead of the Rifts ones. It's basically Palladium lite. But it doesn't have Mecha rules and things like that.
>>85087920Damn, I forgot to post the solo engine. My bad.It's already been posted here:>>85034397So have an even more basic earlier version instead.
>>85087975Found it, thanks anon
>>85088033That's it. no wonder I couldn't find it, it's platinum and 5 pages. Not sure how playable this is though, I never ran it, I just stumbled onto it a few years ago.My play experience with Palladium is limited to victim characters from Beyond the Supernatural and a few TMNT sessions with friends when we were like 14.
>>85077180>I'd like to have someone to spitball ideas with..........Give me your ideas and call me the snowball queen, I guess.
>>85089023If I did a solo “erotic” game it would be more about romance rather than boob sizes. More like fog of love, although porting that to solo would require a lot of tweaking (it’s one of those games that thrives off hidden roles)
>>85089469You could use something like Annalise and make it more explicitly lewd.I'm thinking any rpg with some semi-complex social mechanic could be easily turned into romance/lewd.The seduction mechanics from James Bond are pretty good. That could be a nice starting pojnt,
>>85089469that's a good idea
>>85088280>how playable it isI read it when I had 10 minutes, it's playable solo and lets you pull the exact stats from the other rift booksJust a d20 for combat rolls and d100 for other rolls + damage dice
>>85086269yeah the skirmish game itself does seem a bit light, but I'm thinking that I'll write some house rules for more exciting equipment and mini-bosses/boss fight style battles, with a 'mind backup/recovery' mechanic for crew so fights can be more punishing without as much of a risk of wiping completely. I'll feel it out as I go, and report backif you have any insights about particulars of running the game I'd love to hear them, at least general things like setting up battle terrain and parts of the non-battle interaction loop that are easy to get wrong (maybe not about what sort of equipment is optimal or battle strategy, which is stuff I'd like to discover myself)
>>85089469as long as you can make her love you through rape, I’m interested
>>85087920Thank you for the tips.I will probably start with 5e to get the hang of the solo side of things and probably convert what I'm doing once I get the hang of it. I know you said pre written modules are harder to do solo but I am interested in running one (want to see it's story and how it plays). Any tips for converting modules to solo?
>>85090617>insights about particulars of running the gameDon't worry about it. A skirmish might only take ten minutes to play out once you're familiar with the game, so dicking around trying to get the terrain "right" just seems silly. Just do whatever seems fun, like deciding where you're fighting and building that with your terrain.Main thing I'd do to make fights harder is to add reinforcements, so there's more incentive to complete objectives other than shooting dudes. I think the expansion has mechanics for that, but it's not hard to think of a way to bring extra enemies on. And possibly limit your training bonuses so your dudes don't become too strong.Oh, and you'll need a few bookmarks for whatever little things you keep forgetting. Like the enemy movement guidelines on p42. None of it is hard, there's just a lot of bits to juggle.
>>85027348Please do it.
>>85026780Get with the times, grampa.
>>85092214I play away from a computer because it's one of my few breaks from the damn things.
>>85021713something I have been experimenting with, kinda similar to mythics chaos factor, is a “chance of external complication” role. To simulate a living proactive world. I have 3 potentials:>situational>patronizing>antagonizingwhich I think really help set a scene before rolling on an action/subject table. as it described the immediate nature of something as it applies to my characters goals. Which has helped me to interpreat what an action/subject means in context.the nature of the setting determines the relative likelihood of each. in a dungeon like setting or otherwise a place of passive danger situational is most likely, antagonistic second most likely and patronizing third most likely. In a town or place of relitive friendlyness, antagonizing and patronizing are switched. I role a 2d6 when doing a major action and a result of 2 or 12 is the least likely thing to occure (1/18 chance), 3 or 11 the middle likely thing (1/9), and 4 or 10 the most likely (1/6). Other results mean no new variable has entered the scene. The range of the results can vary with how hectic you want it, but I find that unnecessary. having the role applies some pressure to do shit before some added variable comes up.
>>85093421I do stuff like this with 2d6 but I don't make a formal table for it.I also like using Motifs from Calypso, or idioms when dealing with creatures/human related things or situations to tag them with something extra to help set a thing/person/activity/situation.
>>85094090I think a tag system would work very well for solo.The thing with how I do it is that I feel like the world is living If I have to check for "external variables" over a set amount of actions. Like, have you ever been in a multi person ttrpg game and the party just takes excessive amount of "planning" time to do something and it kinda gets you "out of it" since you are almost playing in a meta "to win" sort of flow rather than a balance of smart play and expedient, in character action? IDK I just feel without a counter for external shit, you dont have the accountability of other players to "get things going"
>>85068398savage worlds or ICRPG
Any recommendations for a basic ruleset/system to jump in? Last thing I played was 5e pre-pandemic and rereading the phb as a refresher isn't that attractive of an option right now desu. Plus I'd like to get back into rpgs by seeing what's out there anyway.
>>85093421Having the table area-based is interesting. I do a similar thing with picrel, either adding an obstacle (or taking something away), drawing attention to something (cresting a Detail, used as callbacks and setups), or activating a background clock (i use threats, but they can really be any world event)
>>85097653*creating a detail >>85095209Absolutely this, clocks/counters/timers are really important. Like gygax said, you cannot have a meaningful campaign without strict time records.
>>85064121You might be interested in GURPS and its supplement for portal fantasy.
>>85095209>The thing with how I do it is that I feel like the world is living If I have to check for "external variables" over a set amount of actionsI do something similar
>>85097653I like this as a simple external prompt mechanism
>>850978422/10 chin too pointy
>>85091903Use the maps and NPCs to tell a similar, or even different, story.Or read it in full, make a list of the different plot threads and plot points, locations, NPCs, etc. Use your oracle to determine as you play if they happen like in the module or differently depending on your PC's actions or sheer luck. If an item is supposed to be at some location, maybe ask the oracle if it is or not. If a location doesn't have anything in it, maybe ask if it does (items, NPCs, etc.)But it may be better to just use the NPCs motivations instead of the plot points themselves. It makes the story more reactive instead of a railroad. It's also easier to figure out what happens given what you know of the module.Dungeon/Hex crawls would be the easiest to play solo. You don't really have to bother with much. There is usually no complex plot to keep tabs on.My personal take on published modules is that I play them as a GM and use my PCs as I would NPCs. The solo tools are used to figure out how the PC act and react to the adventure I'm putting them through. But that's not 'classic vanilla' soloplay. Probably easier to play that way when you're a forever GM like me.There's a few tools that separate the GM and PC sides. They can be helpful as templates of sorts to play published modules.This one for example. It's not meant for modules, but you can make it work. You read the module and try to fit the events into the frame. To keep some randomness, you can make a short list for every step of what type of event that can happen.Playing a published module as the player only is hard. There's always going to be a lot more GMing than in other types of soloplay.
>>85097653I like it, but one thing im not so into is that its scene based. Just for me, that makes things feel a bit to formulaic, like its in the “setting up” process, rather than potentially happening when you start to do something in a scene. Almost like those external things politiely wait for you to go to a new location before acting out. But I guess thats more of a framing concern on my end. However, I think background clocks are a good idea.I havent tried it yet, but I want to mix the “situation, patronize, antagonize” thing with a simplified generator. role for above than d6 for life, fire, water, earth, air, death. Between the nature of something and the conotations given by a basic element, I think I can make a lot with very little. of course for more specific thinkgs I think I will still use the basic action/subject table, but just for general expediency.>On pirate ship, trying to escape>role situational, firepowder kegs exploded, is a distraction, but also makes things more hektic>In court, want info about a baron> Patronizing, watera court noble seems easy going, will tell me something for a simple entertaining conversation.>>85097681Yah, I think solo has really made me apreciate the older importance placed on time consiousness and timers. Bit of headtheory here, But maybe the “mileaux” style multi group longform campaigns of games of yore really made the timer thing more immediately apreciable. As things actually WERE happening behind the scenes. Another party was doing something else, A character takes days to recover health, and gametime often moved outside of game sessions. Because IDK about you, but nowadays, a lot of game sessions with other people are more loosely one shot in nature due to changing groups, more lax play, and otherwise less long form consequences being pertinent. Not that the latter is bad, just that time is less of a factor in more indivigualized sessions.
>>85099808>its scene based, rather than potentially happening when you start to do something in a sceneThat’s kind of by design, as it often breaks my flow to have stuff pop up or get taken away randomly (as opposed to after a “timeskip”, where it has opportunity to fit without interruption). But if you’re comfy with that it can be pretty easily inserted into, say, the game’s resolution mechanic.
>>85097507I would suggest ICRPG or EZD6If you want something really simple Dungeon Reavers
>>85097507Generic or genre specific?Anything special you would like? Like only using d6, for example.Lite, medium or crunchy?Lots of supplements and adventures or is a core game with few of those enough?If you still want that d20 feel, maybe using microlite20 or Searchers of the Unknown might be a good idea.
>tfw switching solo engines and rpgs multiple times during playI'm not even sorry. This is fun. And ADHD. I don't care.
>>85101133Good on yeh. Still probably less chaotic than designing a system from the ground up, whilst playing.
>>85101133mix and match, they're like legos bro
>>85098795God damn it, anon, I can't unsee it now.
I’m slowly reading through the genesys core book, and it seems really good for soloit’s like non-autistic gurpsseems like a pretty big investment if you want real dice, though
>>85103202Real dice are hard to come by right now twofold: recent change in ownership of the Genesys property, as well as supply chain hindrances in Europe where the materials are produced the official dice roller app is free, FWIWI've been playing a solo adventure using a Genesys oracle I adapted from >>85034397 above. Once you get the ball rolling, you rarely have to consult an Oracle thanks to the multifaceted results the dice bring to the ongoing narrative!
>>85103416waitGenesys is not FFG anymore?Thats good new then
>>85103416yeah, I literally can’t find a pack anywhere near methe app is kinda shit and doesn’t even support screen sharing on an ipad, I’m using the one here https://7pixels.fr/it’s free and includes the dice among a bunch of othersalso, I’d appreciate it if you could post any solo resources using the dice,I’m thinking of adapting stuff to the system with adv, triumph etc, but I have to take a look at the probability, it’d be nice to have a basis to start with
>>85103491Not anon but these are some random table types using them
So I've been playing with B/X (a few homerules) and a very simple system ( >>85021765 ) I've seen plenty of people talk about using pretty complicated systems, be it for your RPG or your Oracle/GM, what do you get out of it ? I'm wrapping up session 8 right now and I'm trying really hard to find more stuff to add to my game engine or rules, but I can't think of something that doesn't feel a bit forced. If you're using a more complicated system, why do you enjoy it ?
>>85103979complicated or complex?I use some pretty complex table matrixes like steelforged or augmented reality on perchance, but on the user end they boil down to pushing a button and getting a string of wordsmore complexity = more variance
>>85103979>If you're using a more complicated system, why do you enjoy it ?Like anon said, I like to use complicated tables for more variance or contextual results.I turn to software to make it easy to use.
>>85103979More complicated systems take agency away from you as the GM/Player and put it more in the hands of the mechanics.This sounds bad upfront but solo play can very much suffer from giving you too much agency so you never feel surprised or challenged.Personally I strongly value the idea of wanting my plans to be smart because they're genuinely smart and show a good understanding of the situation and mechanics involved, as opposed to how a lighter system has you arbitrarily self-grade your success rate when you assign a likelihood, or have RNG weigh too heavily on whether your plan was retroactively good.
>>85100197Thanks, I'll give these a look.>>85100223No real preference, I'm happy with most settings/genres. Got a bunch of dice so D6-only isn't necessary either. I'm leaning towards lite-medium mostly since I just want something as a stepping stone to get started, but if there's anything you'd highly recommend that's crunchy I'm not opposed to it. Some amount of supplements/premade adventures would be a nice extra.I know this is vague as hell but I've been looking through the share thread for rpgs and now I've got too many options and don't know where to start lol.
>>85107704My only recommendation is to pick something you know when you're learning to solo, as some other anon saidAlso, over time I've gravitated to simpler systems rather than ones with a lot of book-keeping, so I can eyeball NPCs fast when needed or keep track of characters without lots of timeStuff with simple resolutions and modifiers
>>85107690>but solo play can very much suffer from giving you too much agency so you never feel surprised or challenged.My experience has been the opposite. I always have to stop myself from making the encounters too hard or from making the story go in directions I had no idea it could go in the first place.I need some structure or frame to stop myself from going all over the place.
>>85101133How do you handle converting characters to different systems? This would sound all well and good if it wasn't for that tedium.
How do you start your campaigns?I typically just make a character and throw them into the fray based on their backstory, then forge the world and story as I go to suit.Thus, I've realized that I've never started with a premise e.g. "commanding a squad of holy knights desperately defending against heretic invaders" and built a character around it.
>>85112113It's not that hard. It's more time consuming than anything else, but I do it between sessions.
>>85103979i kinda agree with >>85107690with a caviate. I do t think its necissarily a problem with agency (which is a part of it) but with prompting/reminding. It doesnt have to be super crunchy stuff, but having things to remind you of potential options really helps in solo. like, the very act of putting in a moral stat, even if you dont use it for your character, actually makes you think about moral and how that can be a factor in a situation.kind of like in talking, its easier for many people to have someone they can bounce off of. or if there is more then one mechanical way to attack with a weapon, you think more about how you attqck with a weapon rather than just rolling to attack. Or having a timer making you more weary of what will be more or less expedient. It can help facilitate seeing the forest for the trees, that you might otherwise ignore if you only have 4 stats and things are really abstract. not seeing the forest for the trees.like the saying “necessity is the mother of invention” I find there is a balance between complexity and simplicity especially for solo. too simple and you kind of loose track of the minutia that makes up the excitement of the experience, abd too complex makes that minutia a roadblock for the experience as a whole. Where that line falls is different in different situations.Iften times I have a hard time finding published systems that get to the golden ratio that I generally desire for solo so I make my own.
added shop descriptions which laid the foundation for a trading expansion which I will probably never get to start, even.But I am just happy it is there.
>>85112489I really, really want to play this, but I already have 3 games going right now. Plus one with payers.I will get to it one day, but probably not until the end of the month (not this one, the next one).Unless real life gets in the way...
>>85112802No rush, anon, take your time, I'll playtest it with the updated rules this summer, and will probably publish it along with an adventure, a dungeon, and a smaller scale adventure.
>>85112191Several ways:Pick generic setting, make a character with no define goals and start by choosing a location and rolling for what is happening.Pick a more complex setting and start to play with a blank character.Play as the GM. Roll for random PCs and how they get involved.Play as the big bad. Randomly roll for minions and lackeys. This one is more complex as I shift between the main bad guys and his people. But the main can only gain knowledge of his people if they survive or if he uses magic/tech to spy on what is happening. I haven't done this often, it very hard on my poor little brain.Begin in media res with a more involved story. PCs are already part of the action. I try to determine relationships and motivations (not goals) when I do this. The goals are usually self-evident. This is my favorite style of play and the most fun. The 'boring' stuff is all in the backstory. I can play out some flashbacks if feel the need to.It makes for shorter stories with a more focused plot.
>>85112819Cool. It looks really good so far.
>>85103491If you're interested in screensharing, or having a virtual space where you can see the same results as your friends, I recommend looking to RPG Sessions - its an app built specifically to support Genesys in a virtual tabletop. It integrates with Discord, too, if that's your speed.As for my solo resource, it's a work in progress but this is where I'm drafting it. So far, so very good! I've been playing a fun little story with a totally-not-Indiana-Jones character.https://www.notion.so/genesys-toolbox/NDS-Oracle-b5a381f8780743f797156f025b8c267d>>85103974These are very helpful, thank you for sharing!!
>>85112489>keep meaning to read this>anon keeps adding to itStupid negative reading speed.I'm trying to make a simple dungeon generator inspired by Four Against the Darkness and Advanced Heroquest. Guess I'll share it when it's working well enough, but there's not much to it and I suck at layout.
>>85099315Yeah, the "treat them as NPCs" approach was how I was thinking of doing it. Figure out personalities and motivations and simulate how they would go about following the story.I'll try it and see how it goes.
>>85021713If I wanted to use Mythic GME to run something more centered around nations-building, political intrigue, is there a good way to set this up without a ton of bookkeeping, or should I just wing it?
So a few weeks ago I asked for a system for a political and fighting system for a Samurai/gladiator game. A few suggestions were given but I didn't particularly like any of them. So I made one myself based on the Spartacus board game and use the other systems for stuff that happens. So here's the TL;DR.Three stats. You roll d12s equal to that stat. POW, SPD, END. SPD is your initiative and your ranges weapon attack. POW is your melee weapon. END is your defense. Compare highest number to highest. If the attack is higher it hits, if the END is higher or equal it doesn't.There's also a Influence stat ranging from 1 (no influence) to 12 (emperor). When resolving a political intrigue you roll a d12+Intrigue VS theirs.For gladiator you'll probably have multiple characters as fighters (gladiators) and one Dominus. For Samurai you can have one, since the Samurai heald political power.Thoughts? I also haven't decide on gladiator types and samurai schools, so it's not 100% finished.
>>85115865It's possible yes.>without a ton of bookkeepingNo.
>>85115865I know that worlds without number has a world faction progression system, but idk if tgey have a sheet for it. I think ACKs might have a faction sheet in it though.
>>85115865>>85116033Adam “Literally Rape All Women” Koebel’s last project was simulating factions in SWN iirc, so you can take a look at that to see how it works
>>85115957>SPD>ranged weapon attackstopped reading there, shit system
>>85116999>Adam “Literally Rape All Women” KoebelWhat?
>>85117144He means Adam “force fist the feminist” Koebel
>>85117380No idea what the fuck you guys are talking about.
>>85117415https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAmPx8nWedFVzdfAh_37JL3iBm0jgK9Uccheck the various faction turn vids
>>85116999>>85117380>Literally Rape All Women>force fist the feministBased as fuck.
>>85117415some semi popular “influencer” who made a Powered by the Apocalypse game and was in that 5e big shot community, kinda looks like a san francisco starbucks threw up on a man. He has the obnoxiously progressive attitude you would expect from the type. think he got me tooed for sexual harassment or something. didnt look into. Liked some ideas from his system. but it was a bit try hard.
>>85092113thanks anon, appreciate the reply and the helpful insights.I've got a digital copy of the expansion that has a bunch of real nice rules for reinforcements and tougher encounters in general. I'm certainly going to use reinforcements, and probably some of the other difficulty options as well - the time pressure ones seem particularly interesting to force you to interact with objectives and have to make hard choices.maybe it's a square peg round hole kind of thing, but at least for now I'm committed to building on the mission scenarios- maybe another table that relates to how you end scenarios, like having to make your way back to your shuttle to conclude an engagement, or having the potential for multiple objectives. It also seems like there is a lot of good room for combat abilities (both for enemies and the crew) that make things a bit more spicy. At the very least, looking forward to designing some challenging narrative battles, will post about it all as I get to it
>>85119348>some semi popular “influencer” who made a Powered by the Apocalypse game and was in that 5e big shot community, kinda looks like a san francisco starbucks threw up on a man. He has the obnoxiously progressive attitude you would expect from the type.Yeah I've looked into it and I'm not surprised a progressive like him wound up being the thing he accused everyone else of being.
>>85121688Not very on topic so we shouldn't make this the focus of discussion though.
>>85115865>>85116033found the ACKS sheet. though it seems to be more localized domain.>>85116999Sure you're not misremembering? since world without numbers at least has a fully fledged faction simulation system. IDK if that was brought over from Stars without number or if it was new in worlds without number, but if its the latter I would think its pretty easy to drag and drop mostly into SWN. Unless it was befre wwn was published.
>>85122555and here is some (not all) of the faction stuff in wwn.
>>85119348>>85121688the joke is that he got cancelled for “literally raping a woman’s character” because he described her male robot experiencing a firmware upgrade as an orgasm and the mechanic doing it was creepy and “literally penetrated him” because he plugged a jack into a slot on the back of the robot’s headall this after the robot was asked if he wanted to do it and he said, word for word “I am open to new experiences”it was turbo cringe and he had it coming for turning the scene into a sjw breeding hive, but he was always cringe and the incident literally only happened because his cult went out of controlalso, he made dungeon world, which was THE PBTA game, GM’d Rollplay for like a decade, which was probably the biggest rpg thing after CR, and he kicked neil and based steven from the channel and took all the contract money>>85122555no clue, but you can check the vids here >>85117533I know the game is played with swn, not sure about the factions
I'm posting this here separately if you need to create a hex map for your game.>you can use a d12 instead of the cards in this part of the rules.>>85112802>>85114147I know, the tables look funny. I need a better typeset editor. I did it with LibreOffice.
>>85112191>how do you start your campaignsI look for a strong character or premise, then go from there. I have also used existing worlds as material to start from - Birthright, Pendragon, Elder Scrolls, Faerun, too.>>85112997>Play as the big bad. Randomly roll for minions and lackeys. This one is more complex as I shift between the main bad guys and his peopleThis is an idea I'd like to do, starting with a Big Bad when they are still growing or starting out and then experiencing the journey.
>>85112489I like a lot of these mechanics and tables. There really is a dearth of one supplement you can use for everything to roll on for hex crawling/exploring. There is a lot of OSR stuff out there for it but it's spread out.
How do I become autistic enough to enjoy this? I feel like a fun solo RPG would be just what I'd like to do creatively at the moment; a cross between "game" and "storywriting", but I find it very hard to get in the mood and take it "seriously".
>>85125505Imagine your favorite book, now imagine that instead of following the plot exactly you can use dice and context to go in another direction.>getting in the moodWhat helps me is reading good writing, just kicks my brain into the right frame of mind, but everyone has their own process.
>>85125505It's both a skill and an acquired taste. You need to learn how to make and enjoy a story/game of your own design that you would enjoy experiencing and making. Keeping a cohesive, interesting story is tough when you don't plan any of it, especially when you wind up taking it in a direction you later decide you don't like.
>>85125781It should be noted that the game doesn’t necessarily have to be cohesive to be enjoyable, it just needs to /appear/ to be cohesive.> on a journey> enter the badlands> camp next to a roadside shrine> much later, journeying back> exit the badlands> camp next to the roadside shrine.. which was in the badlands, that we just left.I wouldn’t have caught it if I hadn’t been bullet-point journaling, so I probably do these small little inconsistencies much more. Kinda like dream-logic. It didn’t detract from the experience while playing so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>85126310>the badlands are receding>cue ecofascist antagonist
>>85125505dont take it seriously, just do it if the mood hits you.ive said it before, but i think a structured introduction like playing Sceptor of the underworld is a good way to see if you like it or might be in a mood to like it. or watch me myself and die to see the improv aspect done by someone else. im only into it in specific moods
>>85021713Anyone try Ironsworn? Probably been asked a million times, but is it any good?
>>85074180thanks for the rec, ill check out fighting fantasy.I still want to try converting old modules to solo. many of them are designed in a very open ended way that speaks to a solo style experience with the right formating.
>>85126803Really easy to pick up, incredibly simple loop, highly modular. It's great if you've never tried a solo game, and even afterwards it's a good, simple solo experience. I still prefer the dice rolls.
>>85126803probably the best introduction to solo, the game plays itself compared to soloing a regular game
>>85127316It depends on your previous rpg experience, I think. It's easier for someone with less rpg experience or for someone with some PbtA under their belt to pick it up.For me it was like learning a new language. Once I got it, it clicked and was easy, but it took some effort to get there as it was so different. I'm not talking about the solo parts of the game, those were the easy parts.
>>85128337>For me it was like learning a new languagesame, there are some nice Ironsworn tables but I don't like how it resolves stuff
>>85128357>but I don't like how it resolves stuffCould you explain? Not arguing, just curious. How would you prefer it to resolve things?
>>85128463Not enough granularity. Even with stuff like Dungeon World (PbtA) you can handle multiple characters, but in IS every roll is player facing and relies on the momentum/stats. It is a gamified way of approaching a solo narrative that is hard for me to get into because I am so used to using a base system with Mythic tacked on - I've solo-e for a while before Ironsworn came out.There are lots of nice tables, especially when you look at fan supplements, but the mechanical approach leaves too many gaps for my taste. I'm especially against using companions as fungible pieces or part of a 'feat' (like caravan), as it reduces their mechanical involvement to the bare minimum. There are times when I use my own tweaked tables of the dungeon results (fantastic way to contextualize something difficult), so it's not the entire system I dislike.
>>85128533Yeah I can understand that viewpoint. Having the structured rules and assets to make it a self-contained solo experience does put up some restrictions, or leaves gaps.
>>85026780for solo, why not? like what, you want to see the other players faces or something?every solo game is basically play by post.
What do you guys think about Starforged? I heard Ironsworn was great but the theme didn't really make me wanna play. I discovered Starforged a few days back and it's right up my alley setting-wise. I found a copy of the rulebook and just started doing my first iron vow after finishing all the character/world creation stuff. Not much has happened yet but I'm enjoying what I've experienced thus far. I feel pretty immersed with the little I've done. In addition, the scifi theme hits especially hard for me since I'm playing this hacker/programmer character and I write everything out with org mode in emacs and use lisp to write simple functions to automate play. It all just feels so right.I saw earlier in the thread that combat isn't so great though. I haven't had any fights yet so I dunno what to expect there. I'm still trying to get to grips with how to use the system as a whole especially since I never played Ironsworn itself. Likewise, is it even worth playing the original Ironsworn either if I don't care for the theme? I'll give it a go someday but I have no idea how the two games vary mechanically. They seem pretty much identical from the little I know.Anyone getting the pre-order stuff either? If I'm still having fun after a week I think I'm gonna just splurge and get a physical copy of the rulebook, asset cards, and reference guide. I haven't pre-ordered anything before so I don't really know if it matters when I buy it considering it doesn't come out until towards the end of the year.
Are you really only supposed to get one tick from a bond?It would take ages to fill out.
Do you start with a "plot" in mind are you supposed to just generate a town and do adventure stuff?
>>85135626No, I usually start with a character con spect and world. I let them roam around until they find a challenge.
Favorite Free League game?
>>85134598It's a very good evolution of Ironsworn and outside of combat I think it does well.>ironsworn vs starforgedThe original just has flavored tables. Someone is adapting Starforged to a fantasy type setting already as a fan project that is already close to completion.
>>85134796It's for your heroe's entire life story.
>>85135626Both work, and for every genre of game.For example, take a horror game:Start at a creepy location and fill in the blanks. Or start with a rumor, a call for help from a friend, a personal stake like someone you know is missing, etc.ORMake a loose temporary adventure outline. Use it as the skeleton of your game and change it as the oracles/circumstances dictate.Playing like this will give you build in objectives and you'll have a better idea of the questions to ask the oracle and what a yes or no might mean in context.You can also go for the middle ground. Using Mythic for example, you can start play with only a single thread and limit the number of other threads you can create so that you have a more focused adventure. You could also create your NPCs in advance and introduce them when you roll on Introduce a new NPC. You have some control over who is in the adventure and what kind of people they are, but not over when they show up, if at all.
>>85134598For some reason I can't seem to get into it. I think I'm just burned out on sci-fi. Overall I think it's a great improvement on Ironsworn mechanics-wise and I really appreciate the oracles. It's also really nice to see how creative Shawn got with the assets.
>>85134598I prefer the old Ironsworn to Starforged, but that's just me. I don't even use Delve when I play. It's super easy to change the setting and the tone of the game. You can go from gritty Vikings to Mystery Men (the movie) type of game without changing any of the rules since the whole theme of the game is based on interpreting the results you get.The mechanics for a slapstick fight and a gritty life or death one are exactly the same.
>>85134598starforged diluted the concepts from ironsworn and then spread that diluted soup too thin imoeverything is vague and interpretative in the extreme, combat being the worst offender he pushed the fiction first aspect too far and the game broke, it’s a step from just imagining going pew pew and rolling a dice to see if you win or not, except the results are so open it’s not even that
>>85135626I literally just start with a character and vague idea of the setting and nothing else, have him go about his business, generate npcs and events and stuff along the way and wait for shit to inevitably happen. Sometimes I walk out the door and the dice generate a plot hook right there, sometimes I spend 3 sessions doing mundane shit, sometimes I start on an immediate crisis event only to get sidelined by some natural disaster or something 5 minutes later and have the big crisis thing just go on without me while I’m trapped or held captive or something.I kinda want to run a zero prep zero setting zero everything game and not tell the players, just roll everything as they go, but I have no idea if the groupfags would enjoy it or get mad
>>85138162Just don't tell them
>>85138162>>85138280This. I found out last year that our GM has been using Mythic for the last 3 years of our games. I had no idea and the games were always good. No railroad. No stopping because some player did something the GM didn't account for.It wasn't setting-less, but everything else was made on the spot. Even the NPCs.I knew about solo and about Mythic, but since there was never any book on the table that I could see, I had no idea.
>>85138731I recently did a mini one shot D&D game with some family and it was all off the cuff. I didn't even feel like having them make characters so I had them play as kobolds and orcs straight from the monster manual. I didn't use Mythic but I rolled on random tables and did the yes/no roll thing to myself to see if something happens based on how likely it is and all. I believe I referenced one of those solo D&D books too when I played by myself before so that helped a bit.Overall the experience was very fun. I really enjoyed the lack of railroading and just letting everyone do what they want within reason. I hadn't thought to run a game with Mythic though. I'm gonna steal that idea for next time thanks anon.
>>85021713anyone have a list/ table of interesting action types? stuff thats system agnostic and is simply a good way to reference interesting scenarios/ abilities. stuff like:Area of effect, slow, frighten, regenerate, smooth talker, blind, displace, enviornment destruction, etc.
Does anybody have any good written examples of solo play for a beginner to follow? So I can better understand what to do?
>>85142689just play ironsworn, it’s not hardany example you can see will either be some meme tier theatre improv, a gay creative writing exercise, or autism that will turn you off from soloing because seeing a normal person play solo, live or through notes, just looks retarded
>>85142735gross, why would you start someone with ironsword? the whole system is a turn off for a layman rpg player. it would probably be better to play a system they are familiar with but use a simple solo engine like one page or apocolypse. ironsword is very much an aquired taste.>>85142689ill actually answer your question instead of recommending you just play something: watch any season of me myself and die if you can stomach the player. hes not everyones cup of tea (wasnt mine), but he does demonstrate how solo is played and its improve element very well. I was put off by his voiceactorism, but its a legit good way to understand the “flow” of solo. he has a savage worlds campaign, a ironsworn campaign, and a dominion campaign and he mostly uses mythic.
>>85143960I like this game engine quite a bit and gives me some ideas. I'll have to just nut up and write the specific rules I'm looking for; but this helps for general play. Thanks!
>>85075960I've been playing Sunless Skies recently (the video game) and it's a very story driven kind of thing. When you level up, you take a "facet" which acts as a stat boost but also fleshes something out about your character- like they had a stint in prison or were involved in a scandal. I feel something similar would work for srpgs.