The Best Offense Is A Good Shrimp EditionHere is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.>Build Divide>Force of Will>Final Fantasy TCG>DBZ CCG>Wixoss>Keyforge>Gundam>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)>Digimon>Flesh and Blood>Gate Ruler>Battle Spirits>Ashes>The other DBZ gameetc.Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!>Wixoss Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH>Force of Will Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF>Dragonball GT Shadow Dragon saga rulebookhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp>Gate Ruler Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB>Build Divide Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz>Flesh and Blood Pastebinhttps://ghostbin.com/fSqp4/raw>Ashes Reborn Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S>Netrunner Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7wPlay with /acg/ through voice chat! No text chat so coordinate in thread to get some games in.https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP>Last Thread>>84952143>Thread Question:Was there a game rule you played wrong for a long time, or had to be corrected on mid game after playing wrong for an extended period?
>Future Card Buddyfight!Is also a fun TCG.
Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Normal rare from the Demon Slayer set. Family TiesTarget 1 unit card with the (Demon Slayer) attribute in your Cemetery, add it to your hand.
Fucking screenshots....
Bushiroad vs BandaiWho's the better company in terms of handling TCGS?
>>85003179Tough choice considering how shit both companies are but I would probably say Bandai
>>85002926Saw some kids playing it once, but I don’t know much about it besides it was canceled and you build a deck based on faction flags?>>85002938Quick recycle seems good.
FaB doesn't have an "intervening if clause" the way MtG does.
>>84988457>just make them trash their entire handThis is assuming there is a clear path to the target server in the first place. More likely, there isn't, you were redirected once or twice, or you had to run a central before you could run it, since this is fucking Jinteki.Jinteki is the one corp capable of anything approaching total server lockdown, not because they'll Ice a server so much its inaccessible, but because they turn it into a maze where you have to take so many fucking detours and run again on the same place that eventually, you can't feasibly run anything in your given windows.>or run archivesAgain, this is Jinteki. If anything they probably want you to run Archives.
>>85004098I thought jinteki's traps stopped working when in archives. Did new cards change that or is my understanding of the game just very very out of date?
>>85004280There's some that do, some that don't (NBN card, but I didn't have one of the J ones saved) - I do forget which ones are legal atm, but they will say
>>85004341>no server is safe from traps>some ice will try to push you into certain servers that are guaranteed to contain trapswell that is mildly horrifying. now i don't want to play runner
>>85004280Most don't work in Archives because they'll have the condition "if the runner access this card while installed", which can't be satisfied in Archive, but some, like Shi.Kyu does.. NBN and Jinteki both have the mechanic, but the Nips have more dedicated defense for that server than any other Corp.
>>85002539That's mostly MTG-brain talking, I think. It's pretty intuitive especially when you consider her whole kit, in which the interaction between the two is clearly intentional. There's no such thing as intervening-if triggers that check both to trigger and on resolution in FAB, it's just a single check on resolution and the trigger exists regardless.
>>85004402There are multiple ways to mitigate damage. One of the very first thing you learn while playing is to never ever run anything Jinteki (or that you suspect may splash Jinteki) with less than 5 cards in hands.
About a month of waiting to see if this would actually arrive, and relieved that it actually did. Was just kind of wrapped in printer paper and put in the envelope so before opening it I was also worried they sent the wrong thing since it didn’t feel right.
>>85005662Wooo zero effort Osa for At and some utility for Tawil (even if she’s still crap). Should be fun to play with if nothing else.
>>85005662this seems stupid good. At center is strong then?
>>85004098>>85004038>>85004264>>85004341>>85004402running archives in standard (and especially in startup) is pretty safe because the two most notorious archive traps are gone - Shock rotated, and Breached Dome is on the ban list. There are still some that work, and some non-ambush exceptions you need to watch out for like Stings in J:PE. but the overwhelming majority are of two types: the real dangerous ones that trigger only when installed like Urtica Cypher and Cerebral Overwriter. and the trigger-from-anywhere ones like Snare! that normally have some other limitation.
A few Duel Masters (limited to cards that only go as far Evolution) questions because I'm retarded, I think:>Is there a max hand size?>You can only add 1 mana per turn, right? This means the first couple of turns are just spent putting down a card into mana zone and ending your turn? I just thought this was weird
>>85006609no, yes
>>85004402>>85004638It's interesting, there's actually not that many ways to mitigate damage, and those that exist are pretty niche (or shortly due for rotation, like I've Had Worse and Sports Hopper). you really just have to soak it up and avoid it when you can. Draw events can be pretty clutch for that, as they let you overdraw before hitting a source of damage.
>>85007885>bolts for 100what game has the highest bolt effects?
>>85008237Isn’t Yugioh the game that tracks life points in the thousands?
>>85005462Glad you got it, but it sucks when people are lazy assholes who refuse to package things nicely.
Hooray, fab has been added to the binder!Thanks again to the anon that pointed out it was inexpensive.
well, I finally have a full(ish) collection of Legend of the Five Rings LCG. Just missing Clan Wars & Fu Leng's Shadow, which I have no idea if I'll be able to find the former.
>>85008778Anon... why *that* card...?
>>85009060Not catanon but Lynx is a type of cat I'd guess
>>85009060As anon said, because kitty binder.
>>85009189Oh, the theme is cats... Phew. Good luck on future acquisitions!
>>85009189A cat is fine too.
>>85009363Aye, it's a fun theme. Thank you for your well-wishes. Anons from all over the world have contributed to it. It's been quite fun.
>>85009389Hey now, what game might that be?>2021Whoa, that might actually exist somewhere. I hope.
>>85009389How has it taken that long for that to be said?>>85008756Honestly wasn’t that bad. Results oriented thinking but… came fine as packaged, required signature, great price.
>>85009442Vampire the Eternal Struggle, it's based on World of Darkness, was big in 90s and early 00s, eventually faded to obscurity and now has a bit of renaissance, including reprints
>>85009724Oh, the old White Wolf stuff? Man, I played the shit out of Solar, Sidereal, Werewolf, Hunter, etc. Gonna have to look for these cards.
>>85008778I do what I can.
>>85009724there's couple cat-themed cards
>>85009788Love the art. I can imagine they're hard to find, but they'd make fantastic additions to the binder.
>>85009757Yeah, though the ownership of the game bounced between Wizards of the Coast, White Wolf and now ended up with small company made of long term players.Most of the cards should cost between couple cents and $1.
Why is this wimp so expensive?
>>85009827>Most of the cards should cost between couple cents and $1.Holy shit they ARE cheap! And available!Add to cartAdd to cartAdd to cart...
>>85009814not really, there's ebay aftermarket, though shipping can be a bitchhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/202921996504
>taps 5 mana>puts Gigaberos on the battle zone>immediately puts it in the graveyard>refuses to elaborate>losesDon't mind me, just looking through the English sets.
>>85009888You're the best, anon. Thank you!
>>85009919no problem, just watch out where the seller says the cards are "mixed" - can be from different editions/different picture
>>85009982Noted. Just ordered a bunch. One listing was Cats Guidance x10 from like 5 or 6 sets. Was incredibly cheap, so I figured why not.
Another Duel Masters question: if my creature that says it can attack untapped creatures picks a fight with an untapped creature it can't win against, does the enemy creature at least get tapped in the battle or do I just destroy my creature for no good reason?
>>85010110when two creatures engage in battle you tap both of them so yes it would stay tapped even if it wins the battle
P10 Piece spoiler.>Afternoon Tea Show[Dream Team][Main Phase][Auto]: At the start of your Attack Phase, choose one of the following:1. Add target SIGNI that shares a color with your center LRIG from your Ener Zone to your hand.2. [Ener Charge 1]
>>85010283Looks like shit until I figured out you missed the >Until end of the game, your center LRIG gains the following ability:Long term G-G-G gives options and I won’t turn down Mel thighs and Muzika underboob.
>>85004637fabgots proving themselves inferior to magicchads at everything lmao
>>85009859Because he blocks?
>>85010429Is it *that* powerful though? Anyone is gonna 1v1 him easy.
>>85009060Don't worry, catfag only wants to rape boys.
>>85009189Catfag stop buying cards and buy a semi modern phone ffs your pics suck
>>85010450The option to trade him instead of 1 of your 6 hits is pretty important I think.
>>85009902Is 8k big for old DM?
>>85010727I only had cards up to DM-02 and this has to be the highest I've seen. Definitely nobody breaking 5 digits back then.
>>85009597I’d say the 1/game is expensive, but having the option of turning a bad Death Deck turn or an unused End of the Turn into a full-field blitz is fantastic. Going to have so much fun with Deus.
Any /acg/ cards that have this level of tasteful kino art/framing? No, the aggressively holofoiled anime dragon with more moving parts than I have reasons to neck myself doesn't count.
>>85010743Okay. Just wondering how powerful it was based on power. I can understand double breaker. Reminds me of the Caster Chronicles Fat Cat card that gets posted.
I hope you're packing some black, fuckboy.
>>85010877Um, over-under on my red deck being able to kill this?
>>85006087Better than before. Not DXM tier but if you treat her wipe as a way to open a hole or two (or get lucky on the alpha strike) you can do some work with the 8k banish and constant Osa/Paraj activations.Might even have the ener for an Ibaraki turn if you can’t bother to set up Demeter.
>>85010902Like with pokemon, I refuse to acknowledge anything besides the first bunch of English boosters. I'm getting too old for this shit...
>>85010780Wixoss used to have a lot of interesting alternative frames as secrets and promos.
>>85010941Posted that Wix card mindlessly because it was red and I was honestly curious what early red removal was like, not even thinking about how it was a DM crossover card. Hah!
>>85010960Coulda fooled me, I looked at how many types of cards they introduced since I last bought a DM booster and had a small heart attack. What the fuck is a gacha-range?
Might be the wrong place to ask this, but where is the best place to get physical copies of the Nisei Netrunner cards? MakePlayingCards charge $70 per set and I was wondering if there were better alternatives.
>>85010972No idea. If I know almost nothing about English/early DM, I know even less about later and modern DM. It’s normal for a game to just chug along and introduce new card types and mechanics that seem extreme compared to the initial sets though, right? I suppose it would be like explaining damage-off-the-stack, hybrid mana, planeswalkers, equipment, and mutate all at once to someone who stopped playing during Alliances.
>>85010953That's a cute one.
Actually that complexity ramping in games is super interesting to me. Either to lure in new players or because the designers have a better grasp of their game and how people engage with it, I love to see what’s injected into games.
>>85010780Dunno if this counts, but cards combining to make a larger image always makes me smile.bring back cross you fucking cowards
>>85011157It's always a balance between keeping oldheads engaged for staying with the game by introducing new rules for them to play with and introducing noobs to the game by keeping the rules to a minimum. And by balance I mean, one or the other, I don't know of any exceptions to this.
>>85011034There's this bundle that has almost everything for $140https://www.drivethrucards.com/product/380533/NISEI-Startup-Collection-BUNDLE
>>85011213Cross yes!
>>85011350Thank you so much! Any idea on the quality of the cards? I'll probably end up getting it regardless
>>85011494I haven't bought it myself, however, Nisei does have them listed as one of their trusted retailers on their website, along with MPC.
>>85002539The chainlink, and the chain are different, but yes. Once the chainlink is resolved, and damage is dealt, you can't retroactively go back, but if you manage to do arcane damage in that same chain link, maybe via spellbound creepers, then yes, it will still trigger.
>>85011034>>85011494I got some of the drivethru printed cards. They're fine. nothing that will knock your socks off, but the weight and gloss is about like a normal playing card, they're cut correctly, ink looks good, etc. the heavier weight MPC ones are noticeably snappier, but you pay a premium for that.>>85012009she's my favorite too, fernanda
>>85012009>>85011494On the subject of Ashes (and getting cards printed by third party companies), what do anon into Ashes think are the chances of the various Phoenixborn getting a second round of signature cards? Assumedly with a stipulation that only one of the two could be used in a single deck. Or perhaps different versions of the P-Borns, like how magic has done with its various legendary creatures and planeswalkers? Also is there anywhere that does good-quality double-sized (or half sized, for that matter) card order for bigger avatar cards, and teeny tiny creature tokens?
>>85012331I'd rate that pretty likely. We know they're not adding more dice types so 2nd versions or 2nd uniques for PBs is a pretty obvious expansion route.As to alternate cards, MPC or any of the on-demand printers can do it I'm sure. Although I don't know if I really understand what your intention is.
>>85006609>This means the first couple of turns are just spent putting down a card into mana zone and ending your turn?unless you have low-cost cards to play, yes this is how it goes in any game with 1 new mana per turn limits.
>>85010972i think it's some extra deck shenanigans, but i'm not sure
>>85010481no u
EventTactical Search
>>8501353810/10 would tactically search
Goddammit Battle Spirits you crazy motherfuckers
>>85014665Really looking forward to Ril being in English. My old Ril decks will hold me over until then.
>>85014054nice name
>>85016758Translation?
KINO
>>85017156
>>85017507/ACG/ has officially turned to shit with retards like you
>>85018108Hey newfag, fyi it never wasn't shit.
>>85018108pls be b8
>>85018108What kind of content would you consider to be not shit in a weird containment general like this on an internet prison website like 4chan?
>>85018169Nah fuck off faggot, now you're missing the point. If you actually fucking go through these threads, you'd see my point.
remember pls to not the b8
>>85008778I'm glad that after a year and a half you're finally checking out your first fab card. Did you happen to notice the silky smooth cardboard surface? It really DOES posses a pearlescent sheen to it. Enjoy, Gatos Senior.
>>85017469card names so big you have to flip the card 2 times.
>>85018748
>>85018108Lmao keep dilating stupid fabgot
>>85018769Always a fun card name.>>85014054Fuck I didn’t even notice the card name when looking the first time!
>>85011218Pretty sure that’s what rotations, formats, and “standard” is supposed to solve. You want to play continuously you stick to the oldest format or use your knowledge in the limited pool of cards. You new? Here’s a core intro and 2 years worth of mechanics instead of 5, 10, or 20 years worth of cards and keywords and sidedecks and bans and interactions.Either way I don’t find the introduction of complexity something that can’t be enjoyed by new and old players alike. Introducing a mechanic or adjusting design so everyone can have more options is easily possible. Wixoss’s various uses of Exceed is an easy example of a mechanic introduced, altered, and realteted without is somehow becoming to overbearing for a brand new player or unfamiliar to an experienced one. I just think a lot of games do it terribly.
Today's Build Divide reveal is an Ultra Rare from the Demon Slayer set.Deity of the Festival, Uzui Tengen[Decoy]<Sound Hashira> [AUTO] When this unit is placed, look at the top 2 cards of your deck, reveal up to 1 unit card with the (Demon Slayer) attribute and add it to your hand, and place the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.
>>85018769Wonder what the Japanese version of the card has for its name. Watch it be like just 4 kanji letters. >>85018833A reply to that tweet calling out the card's full name while doing normal shit like summoning or attacking was pretty funny.
>>85022718>Wonder what the Japanese version of the card has for its nameThere is none! ScoreZ was English only. Even the DBS Card Game, despite being made entirely in-house by Bandai in Japan, is not available in Japanese. (The theory goes that since the Carddass version, which was pretty much a prototype of DBS rules wise, only made it to 5 sets, they didn't think that it would succeed domestically)
>>85022881Top left is pretty dank, ngl
>>85023136>Carddass versionI knew about their light table game, but did they have a more recent tcg for DB?
>>85024382FF has some gorgeous art. I hate 90% of it though.
>>85025105Old Lycee was a crossover game with 100% (as far as I ever saw) original art, showing it could be done and modern games are just skimping. It was… of questionable quality at times but hiring doujin artists, fans, and occasionally professionals for your game is much more charming.I like that FF has added more of those commissioned pieces, and don’t entirely hate the idea of reusing some high-grade art that already exists but it doesn’t have to be the majority. But as long as you enjoy the game you’re playing I guess.
>>84988457Because you're playing this with new!ashexcept this time, you have to pay the ash tax before you pay the caprice gameand the tax is 5 credits minimumand if you refuse to pay the tax, you can't access ashand hb has good 3 sub high strength ice that is relatively cheap, they get free clicks when they score things, and instead of being tempo negative, agendas are +5/+10 credits to the corp now, so you don't get to exploit other servers when the corp goes low to score (that aspect has been removed from the game).They have genuinely banned four different cards to rein in this deck (vacheron, fairchild 3.0, slot machine, VLC), and it doesn't do anything because the core mechanics (18 point ID + food, so you have to go to the bottom of the deck to end the game. Caprice/ash but better and without link as a counterplay. Good in faction ice that is taxing that you also can't facecheck. You gain money by scoring agendas with your cheap agenda scoring tools.)And for some reason, PD has 6 hand size, just to shit on the first shaper ID nisei printed.
>>85025105>FFFuck Fab!
>>85024382Anon, do you know anything about FFTCG drafts? I posted about it in a previous thread but got no responses. I've seen some inconsistent rules on draft with either 4 or 5 packs being used and some places stating that Backups can generate crystals of any colour. Do you know what the official rules are and how well the game plays with rainbow backups. I've had poor experiences with rainbow sealed before.
>>85002857Man I miss this game. Simple design, even if it was built around one of worst localizations ever.
>>85026659It's super fun, I still love the Wackoman stall deck I built in draft.
>>85026677I recall having an 80% blue Torchman deck in the works when they finally announced it was being discontinued. Damn shame. Though Yellow was always my favorite color cause of this bad boy. Nothing like top decking in a game where every card counts.
P10 spoilers from the stream.>Eldora//Memoria, Code: Order[Const]: Shadow - SIGNI of the same level as the SIGNI underneath this SIGNI.[Auto]: When this SIGNI attacks, you may put any number of Spells from underneath this SIGNI into the trash. Target opponent SIGNI gets -5000 power for each card put into the trash this way.[Action (1/turn)]: Look at the top 3 cards of your deck. Put up to 1 Spell and 1 blue SIGNI underneath this SIGNI, and the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order.>INVESTIGATELook at the top 3 cards of your deck. Add one of them to your hand and place the rest on top of your deck in any order. You may put this Spell from the Check Zone underneath your <Eldora//Memoria, Code: Order>.[Life Burst]: Down and freeze target opponent SIGNI. Draw a card.>Andromeda, Natural Planet Queen[Auto]: At the start of your attack phase, choose one of the following two for every level 1 SIGNI on your field:1. If there are two or more cards in your opponent's Ener Zone, your opponent places one of them in the trash.2. Target one level 1 SIGNI on your field, and it gets +10000 power until the end of your opponent's next turn.[Life Burst]: Vanish target opponent SIGNI with power 10000 or less.
>>85026910>Key-EldoraGross
Iyslander is bad, pass it on
>>85027042Makes sense. Jason prefers runeblade and combo decks.
>>85009859>>85009902Darkness has either the best or worst cards. On the good spectrum of stuff you got Terror Pit, Morbid Medicine, Lost Soul, Corpse Charger, Slash Charger, and Cranium Clamp. Just some all around excellent Spell cards and garbage Monsters.
>>85026724I hope to pull some of those when I finally get around to opening the other boxes I have.
>>85027026Shit taste but you do you
>>85026659>>85026724Did the navis have colors they were naturally better equipped to play in or did you basically build whatever you liked that for their abilities?
>>85027407Each Navi had two of the four colors to back it, but they could be adjusted to tastes in some regards. A Navi's own cards obviously provide powerful options you can't get otherwise, but with my aformentioned 80% blue Torchman deck, I'm eschewing all of Torchman's red options save for Fire Factory. This gives me more general blue denial options to use in combination with, and using Ally cards like SharkMan or ProtoMan instead of his NetOp to fill necessary niches for my build. Fire Factory is the only red card in the deck, and requiring no red cards in play to play it makes it easy for me to still use as a strong poke option that helps even in the Power Gauge. So while color can matter, you can lean into one side of a Navi's gimmick usually and be fine. You just need to build for a goal that works. Which is easier to do for some colors than others sadly. Often you'll at least use one of your Navi's colors though.
>>85027613Interesting. I like the potentially freeform system that doesn’t lock you into a certain color. I’m sure it’s got its issues but the more I hear about the design the more I like it. Are the starter decks any good for introducing the game or are they just a convenient pile of cards with an avatar card guaranteed?>and using Ally cards like SharkMan or ProtoManCan you play other navi cards as allies from your deck to perform some function? The way you describe it it almost sounds like how ScoreZ handles personality cards in your main deck.
So has anybody here preordered some black label HP1 boxes?
>>85029109I kind of want a german box, but the shipping isn't worth it and I'm not trying to scalp.
>>85029306Well I've got somewhat good news for you then, if what I heard about the amount of boxes available at distro level is accurate these are gonna drop through the floor pricewise and you'll probably get them cheap even with overseas shipping.
>>85029052>Can you play other navi cards as allies from your deck to perform some function? The way you describe it it almost sounds like how ScoreZ handles personality cards in your main deck.No, each Navi proper is out at the start and can't be affected by cards intended to remove cards from the board. The basics of the game is you take turns playing cards until the end of the round. Each round you battle, and damage is dealt to your deck rather than a life counter. There are specific Ally type cards that represent different Navi's helping you from the side. But you can't use your own Navi as an Ally because card names on your field are unique. So when playing MegaMan as your Navi, you can't then play the MegaMan Ally, but you could play the ProtoMan Ally.>Are the starter decks any good for introducing the game or are they just a convenient pile of cards with an avatar card guaranteed?Starter Navis are unique and only available in the Starters. Some cards can only be found in the starters too. So it's a good way to get a head start on deck building for anyone depending, but most helpful for those Navis. Though you may end up buying multiples of the same starter to build a whole deck for your Navi of choice There's often a good spread of cards otherwise in there too.Navi cards otherwise are common, so if you want to build for a non starter Navi, it's not hard to end up getting a ton of them with a couple packs.
>>85029109No because im not ESL
>>85029345But I'd rather them not crash because I want the game to be supported by stores.
>>85029624>There are specific Ally type cards that represent different Navi's helping you from the side.I see. That explains a card I saw when looking into the game.>There's often a good spread of cards otherwise in there too.Awesome.>Though you may end up buying multiples of the same starterLess a fan of that, but they sound good for getting started or just learning the game and fooling around. Are the decks a decent example of ratios for deckbuilding? Not necessarily top tier decks but just to mimic for first deck attempts?>Navi cards otherwise are commonAlso good to know, thanks.
>>85031250>Are the decks a decent example of ratios for deckbuilding? Not necessarily top tier decks but just to mimic for first deck attempts?Not necessarily. The MegaMan starter, for example, has 21 Battlechips out of a total of 59 cards, minus Navi. Deck limit is 60 plus Navi, so a third of the deck there is Battlechips. Which, in a deck where playing lots of Chips is the ultimate strategy it might be viable, but considering you'll be playing 1 chip a turn without cards like the Spikey Virus or the Meteor Battlechip to play more than one a turn, it's often going to end up with you having fewer chips than that on average. I've seen decks only carry 4 Battlechips in total before because they focus on Events and Resources to do direct damage rather than battle damage. Others build around increasing Blast Destiny to increase Strength rather than raw Battle Chip driven Strength boosts. It will take a bit of getting use to the game to determine what you want to do, as it's hard to offer advice without one knowing how the game works as a whole. But once you start getting the hang of all of the mechanics, deck building is a fairly easy task.
There's no way aniplex cheaped out on getting signs for their own card game right? Or am I on copium.
get ready lads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM4N2nvGJyk
>>85026910>EldoraLove it. Super niche but I’m sure Milulun will appreciate the spell synergy and I’ll take more Eldora in almost any capacity.>INVESTIGATEI like how much more topdeck manipulation the game is getting now. Digging is nice but unless you’re really desperate to make Eldora work, drawing cards or better scry effects will likely be more appealing. Good freeze burst I guess?>AndromedaInteresting to have a “defensive” buff coming from a red card, but red’s always taken whatever it wanted, and I wonder how much Sashe, in Diva and All-Star, might want this. Burst is generically decent since it hits anything in range regardless of tap-status.
>>85027113>inb4 "Ka ku rennnn boooo"this just seems like the world's worst mushinlike the whole archives dance doesn't even matter because if you actually use it to recur something and they can run archives, then they know what you mushined.
Aniplex unexpectedly dropped the entire list for the Demon Slayer set today so I will begin dumping the remaining reveals, starting with Black.“Playfulness”, Shinobu Kocho [AUTO] When this unit is placed, target 1 of your opponent’s units and during this turn it gets Power –2000. <Insect Hashira> [AUTO] When this unit attacks, if your life is in the Red Zone, all of your opponent’s units get Power –4000 until the end of the turn.
Insect Hashira, Shinobu Kocho <Title: Insect Hashira><Insect Hashira> [AUTO] When this unit is destroyed, you may put the foremost card of your life zone into the Cemetery. If you put a card with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, put the foremost card of your opponent's life zone into the Cemetery.
Bystander, Inosuke Hashibira [CONT] This unit can also attack any unit that is standing.
The Smell of Enchanting Blood, Tamayo [AUTO] When this unit is destroyed, target 1 of your opponent’s units and it gets Hit –2 until the end of the turn.
>>85032889Wow that doll face is not flattering.
Tengen’s Wife, Hinatsuru When you would play this card, if you have a unit with the (Uzui Tengen) attribute you may play it for (1B) less. [AUTO] When this unit is placed, target 1 of your opponent’s units and it gets Power –2000 until the end of the turn.
Upper Rank Three, Akaza <Territory> [AUTO] When this unit attacks and wins a battle, for every Hit of the unit that lost the battle, your opponent puts the foremost card of their Life Zone into the Cemetery.
>>85032922>>85032940yeah, just spam the thread up by posting each card individually instead of just linking to the spoilers or putting them all in one image. you are an intelligent and useful person anon.
Destructive Death, Compass Needle Target one of your units, and during that turn, it gets Power +5000. At the beginning of the next end phase, destroy it.
85032980kys
Mugen Train Target an opponent's unit, and during that turn, it gets Power -2000. If your life is in the red zone, it gets Power –4000 instead.
Ruthless Purge [Name Link – Cursed Trump Card]
Blue.Water Hashira, Giyu Tomioka <Title: Water Hashira><Water Hashira> [AUTO] When you play a command with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, if this unit is rested, it gets Power +3000 until the end of the turn.
>>85032989B-b-but you can’t post cards in the card thread? However will I scroll up and read comments from 2 whole days ago in our superzoom thread if you post cards?
Negative Thinker, Zenitsu Agatsuma [AUTO] At the beginning of your opponent's Attack Phase, if this unit is rested, draw 1 card and discard 1 card.
Rehabilitation Training, Aoi Kanzaki [AUTO] When this unit is placed, target up to one of your other units with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, and during that turn, it gets [Blitz].
Nurturing Hand, Sakonji Urokodaki [CONT] All of your units with the (Demon Slayer) attribute get [Blitz].
Assault from the Ground, Swamp Demon [CONT] This unit can ignore [Decoy] when attacking.
Final Selection Variant, Hand Demon [CONT] If your life is in the Red Zone, this unit gets Power +3000.
Fainting Target 1 unit, rest it.
Tenth Form: Constant Flux [Name Link – Capital Breaker]
White.Sound Hashira, Uzui Tengen <Title: Sound Hashira> <Sound Hashira> [AUTO] At the beginning of your End Phase, if you have a unit with the (Demon Slayer) attribute and a total cost of 3 or less, stand this unit.
>>85031403I got ya. Lots of possibilities and the starter decks aren’t a full template or the only way to take the deck.Been thinking of trying the game out on a lark like some other things I’ve seen here. Even if I end up not liking it or playing more than twice, I’ve probably played worse and it looks like a fun evening at least.
Acting Without Thinking, Tsuyuri Kanao [CONT] This unit does not stand in the Stand phase. [AUTO] At the beginning of your Attack Phase, if you have an ace with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, stand this unit.
>>85033136Still holds up well to this day. Though Blue denial is a pain in the ass to be mindful of sometimes. Still, hope you have fun anon!
Devotee of Tamayo, Yushiro [AUTO] When this unit comes into play, target up to one of your other units, and the damage it takes is reduced by 2000 during that turn.
Upper Rank Six, Daki [CONT] This unit cannot block. <Territory> [AUTO] When this unit is destroyed, you may discard a unit card with the (Demon) attribute in your hand. If you discarded, target a card with the (Gyutaro) attribute in your Energy Zone, and place it onto the field rested.
Arrow Demon, Yahaba [AUTO] When this unit is placed, target up to one of your opponent's units with a total cost of 2 or less and return it to hand.
First Form: Thunderclap and Flash Perform 1 of the following -Target 1 unit, during this turn it gets Power +3000. -Target 1 unit with the (Demon Slayer Corps) attribute, during this turn it gets Power +5000.
Beautiful Killer Perform 1 of the following -Target 1 of your units with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, during this turn it gets Power +5000, Hit +1. -Target 1 of your opponent’s units with a total cost of 5 or less, return it to the hand.
Fifth Form: String Performance [Name Link – Shackles of Ethics]
Operation Infiltrating the Entertainment District Look at the top three cards of your deck, and from among them, place up to one unit card with a total cost of 4 or less and the (Demon Slayer) attribute, and put the rest on the bottom of your deck in any order. During that turn, the placed unit gets Power +3000.
Lastly Red.Flame Hashira, Kyojuro Rengoku <Title: Flame Hashira><Flame Hashira> [AUTO] When this unit attacks put the top card of your deck into the Cemetery. If you put a unit card with the (Demon Slayer) attribute, your opponent must block the attack as much as possible.
"Rising Scorching Sun" Kyojuro Rengoku [CONT] If your life is in the Red Zone, this unit gets Hit+1. <Flame Hashira> {AUTO] When this unit is placed, rest all of your opponent's units.
Stonehead, Tanjiro Kamado [AUTO] When this unit attacks, if you have 8 or more Energy, this unit gets Power +2000 during that turn.
Tengen’s Wife, Makio When you would play this card, if you have a unit with the (Uzui Tengen) attribute, this unit costs (1R) less to play. [AUTO] When this unit is placed, it gets Power +2000 and [Blitz] until the end of the turn.
Hashira’s Brother, Senjuro Rengoku [AUTO] When this unit comes into play, you may place one card with the (Kyojuro Rengoku) attribute from your hand to your Energy Zone rested.
Upper Rank Six, Gyutaro <Territory> [AUTO] When this unit is placed from the Energy Zone, if your card with the (Daki) attribute was destroyed this turn, target 1 card with the (Daki) attribute from your Cemetery and place it onto the field rested.
Temari Demon, Susamaru [CONT] If you have another unit with the (Demon) attribute, this unit gets Power +3000.
First String Attack! [Name Link – Surprise Attack]
Cave Expedition Target a Unit card with the (Demon Slayer Corps) attribute in your Energy Zone, and return it to your hand. If your territory is not open, put one card from the top of the deck into your Energy Zone rested. That completes the Demon Slayer set. Next will be Set 6 reveals which should start within a week perhaps even sooner given the full list for this set released earlier than expected.
>>85033357Why should I play Cave Explorer? What do I stand to gain?
>>85033381I suppose you could fish out an Ace or key piece you might need later on.
>>85033035yeah, funny how every game that's not completely full of shitters doesn't struggle with this. it's just you lot and FaB that feel the compulsive need to drown out discussion of all games, including your own, with mindless spam.
>doesn’t agree with me>must play the gameSpeaking of shitters. You babies always do the same shit. If you wanted something else in the thread, you’d post it.
>>85026578Sadly no, just use a few cards to post. I’ve played a few games online but don’t have any cards… or a huge interest in Final Fantasy.
>>85033490Presumedly this. Fish something out without going backwards on ramp.
>>85031761Fabsisters...It's over
>>85032971Sounds Boken
>>85031761jesus christ
>>85034614why?
>>85033101Yep this is going to be played in a lot of decks.
>>85034365>drown out discussionthere's that meme againgoing to go back to calling for generals to start next?
>>85032987Keep up the good work, anon. Doing God's work.
>>85031761>>85034614>>85035414>IF you get all 3 out>and even more setup>>85035701It's a nothingburger. If you get all this set up you earned the win twice over.
>>85032889They're going to announce another collab set......
>>85036602If it's not Prisma Illya it's SHIT!
>>85036602Yes we already knew that from the last roadmap announcement.
Likely going to be SAO since there's a new movie coming out or Bleach since the anime is coming back. I'd say Bleach since that makes it easier to keep putting promos in VJump and get advertising from there.
>>85036688BruhFirst of all, Witnessed. Secondly, neither of those are Prisma Illya. I am fukkin livid, cunt.
Been fussing around with making my own card game as a side project, wanted to ask people about their feelings on how abilities are templated: Symbols or Text? >TextPros: Everything that a player needs to know about a card is explained on the card.Cons: Can take up a lot of space and make cards look cluttered or overwhelming for new players.>SymbolsPros: Saves space and can make cards look cleaner.Cons: Requires new/returning players to refer to rules/manuals outside of the game to understand how a card or ability works. Do you feel like there should be a general rule of thumb for what gets a symbol and what gets explained through text? Is it better to stick to just one way or the other?
>>85036775I'd use a very small number of symbols for conditional triggers you expect to use a lot. Only the ones that are most common, the rest can be done with card text. Things like "when {played, attacks, dies}"Everything else can be done with evocative keywords and plaintext. Please bold your keywords too, it's so much nicer than the undifferentiated text Magic uses.
>>85036775I like symbols for core mechanics and base card makeup because it caps how many symbols you’re going to have to learn while still taking advantage of them. Mana symbols, classes, stats, factions, maybe core keywords. Maybe even mechanics that don’t care what the symbols are named 90% of the time.It’s true that symbols take up less space but it’s nice to have the ability to read your cards and figure out what it does at any point. But since players will have to read the rules to know how to play anyway, saving space by using a little Fist or Sword instead of cramming STRENGTH in 4-point font onto your card could look nice and communicate mechanics fairly well.
P10 SIGNI spoiler.>Guzuko//Memoria, Small Trap[Auto]: When this SIGNI attacks, reveal the top card of your deck. If the card is a SIGNI with an even-numbered level, target opponent SIGNI gets -2000 power until end of turn.
>>85036857>Please bold your keywords too, it's so much nicer than the undifferentiated text Magic uses.Yeah already bolding them, and using the Magic philosophy of explain the keywords fully on simple commons/uncommons and just use the keyword on more complex rares/cards players will see less often. >I'd use a very small number of symbols for conditional triggers you expect to use a lot. Yeah, I think that's the main thing I'm struggling with figuring out what's deserving of the symbol. Stuff that is universal for all factions/colors is a good starting point- but how much is to much? Can I replace all card types referred to in an ability text with a symbol? Short hand common card game actions like milling into a keyword? How about things that relate to when a card is destroyed? My main worry is cards looking like some sort of weird code cipher, so I guess I'm trying to figure out good places to draw the line. >>85036894>Mana symbols, classes, stats, factions, maybe core keywordsThis might be a good guideline to chew on, the only thing I'm wary about is giving some keywords symbols and others text only. >it’s nice to have the ability to read your cards and figure out what it does at any point.Yeah, I'm crazy about draft/limited so that's super important to me. At no point would I ever want a newer or returning player ever feel like they have to grab a rulebook in the middle of a draft to figure out if they should pick a card or not.
>>85035157Love that this is “you may” so you can keep your hand if you like.>>85037006Shit card, but goddamn Guzuko.
>>85037018>Can I replace all card types referred to in an ability text with a symbol?Almost certainly not. It will both look like shit and make it awkward to add new types or subtypes for extra granularity when it comes to balancing. I don't think it's worth the brevity gained.For conditional-symbols it's got to be the absolute fundamentals and only the fundamentals imo. "When played" and "when destroyed" are great candidates, but I don't know your game enough to suggest exactly what. Try to keep the symbols low, I'd consider no more than 5. Like you said, you don't want a code.The reason I favor using your limited symbols on conditionals is you save 5 or more words, as opposed to 2 or less words for card-type symbols. "When CARDNAME enters the battlefield or attacks" is a fucking nightmare for MtG space wise.
>>85037366I guess to further illustrate what I'm thinking of I'll try a pair of dummy examples.>[Symbol PLAY][Symbol ATTACK]: blah blah this is what happens when you either play or attack with this card blah blah blahIs a nice way to save space, and you'll see this on a bunch of japanese games because it works.>[Symbol A]: first [Symbol B] then [Symbol C] to deal 3 damage to any [Symbol D], if a [Symbol D] is destroyed [Symbol E] then [Symbol F].Is probably what you want to avoid, it's starting to look like a code no matter how clear an intuitive your symbols are.
>>85037366>The reason I favor using your limited symbols on conditionals is you save 5 or more words, as opposed to 2 or less words for card-type symbols.Maximizing words saved when considering candidates for symbols is a good way of picking what will get the symbols and what doesn't. That's really helpful, thank you! >>85037433I think I get what you're trying to convey. Try to keep the symbols grouped together instead of spreading them out throughout a sentence? I might mess around re-translating some of my cards into that style to see how the formatting would look. If you have an extra second, do you mind re-writing your example but with the same filler text for reach style? Just to get a sense of how you'd achieve a similar effect for reach template. Because I'm not sure how you'd pull off your 2nd example in the 1st's style - or perhaps you're just trying to tell me that things like your second example should just stick to text?
>>85036775I'd err on using as few sympols as possible. If you have something super common, like tap or a symbol you want to use outside the text box (e.g. mana symbols) that also gets printed in the text box that's fine. But if you're questioning whether something should be a symbol or not, I'd err on the side of not. In regards to bolding keywords, have you also considered color coding keywords?
>>85037456>perhaps you're just trying to tell me that things like your second example should just stick to textThat is, essentially, what I'm trying to say. I think symbols will naturally be more elegant (and save more words) when they are communicating the *conditions* for an effect to take place instead of *game actions*.I would use a symbol for "when you play this" but I would not use a symbol to represent "draw a card".I'm sorry I can't give you a clear heuristic, I'm a little drunk and even if I wasn't I'm not sure I know how.
>>85037515>In regard to bolding keywords, have you also considered color coding keywords?Not particularly, since certain factions/cards are tied to particular colors I'd worry about it causing some confusion. Is there a particular advantage to it compared to/in addition to bolding besides drawing the eye to it a bit quicker? >>85037528Okay, now its a lot more clear what you meant by conditions. That makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks for all of your advice Anon, I really appreciate it!
>>85037667>Is there a particular advantage to it compared to/in addition to bolding besides drawing the eye to it a bit quicker?I find it makes the board easier to read. If all combat abilities are red, you know to look for those when you evaluate combat, if all entering play abilities are green, you know any ability starting with green text can be ignored.
>Crown of Seeds suspended in BlitzOldhim shitters absolutely SEETHING right now>nooo, what do you mean I can’t just fly through my entire deck while blocking out 10+ damage and making you do nothing fuck you LSS!
>>85037684Okay, that's a fair reason to at least give it a try and see how it looks on the cards I have now and see if I like it. Thanks Anon!
>>85037715I am actually literally seething right now. It's my favorite card in the whole game. Imagine suspending a $175 card. I think Oldhim will still blitz LL this season. It barely effects aggro Oldhim in blitz.
>>85037844Just wait until Prism dies in CC and you can still play it there
>>85037866I'm definitely still playing him in CC. I just have to play gem meta and hope I don't see any prisms.Of course, I tried that in my last PQ and my first 3 rounds were all prism.On the topic of blitz though, the whiplash of the last 2 metas has been concerning. First Viserai is sending so much fast arcane damage that no deck can possibly outrace or survive. Then Oldhim comes back with a list where unless you are Rhinar (or occasionally Kano) you just get fatigued and fuck you. Blitz is fundamentally broken.
>>85037891Yea Blitz is a shit format. Often it comes down to who has the best first 2 hands.
>>85038014Yeah when Rhinar does 8 unblockable damage t0 you usually just lose.
>>85037891Yeah I had to play against Alexander Vore's Kano R2 as Rhinar in Vegas Calling. Lost the dice roll and drew 4 non attacks starting hand. Needless to say we got swept by their team
>>85036565>IFBro iyslander is a slow control deck, their gameplan is to see every card in their deck
Anyone knows where new shadowverse set open for preorder?Also my first packages from Japan after War started coming next week
The 4th collab will be Fullmetal Alchemist. It will include some new art as well.
Some new art from 2 new starter decks and set 7 which will release in November. Presumably more info in August when pre-orders open up. They indirectly confirmed one of the new Starters will be Red.
Alternate art promos of the second wave of observers obtainable at Circle events.
Aniplex actually going to release KnY with no signed cards? What was the point of keeping the license out of Weiss if they are going to cheap put on their own card game.
>>85039342smug pug
>>85039353It’s a bit weird considering Fate will have signed cards. Not sure why they weren’t able to get signed, but I’d assume they would do it for Vol. 2 whenever that would release.
Incoming Revice and Drive collab set
>>85033101>not even a twiddleyawn
>>85039312Oh shit I love FMA
>>85039520>DriveBASED
>>85039312Still not Prisma Illya!Still SHIT!
>>85039312Now I really wish the game had an english release.
Do people even play all these japanese card games in the west in organized tournaments?I understand the collectable aspect of them though.
>>85040577Wixoss, Digimon, Vanguard, and Weiss Schwarz all get regular events. Gate Ruler, as I understand, has had some online events, but a lot of their tournament scene is organized by fans. FoW had online events too. Don't know if they still do.
>>85040577If DBS counts it had a pretty lively scene here for the first 7 or so sets. I think it's still going after Covid, but I haven't kept up.
>>85040621>>85040633That's nice. I never see them because they get outshined by the bigger games in the places that I go to.I wonder how those events are even oranized though. Does everybody have to play and talk in japanese if everything is in japanese on the cards?
>>85039312they really went all in with the collabs, huh
>>85040621fow had an online event a few month ago, and still get a bunch of physical event there's on in spain next month
>>85040676all of these games are in english tho
>>85040887Then why do you guys post the japanese pictures here? Are those released earlier than the western releases? Or are those worth more for western collectors?
>>85040924depend on the game, but yeah wixoss for exemple; the english release has a delay, so people post the jap spoiler too, that are like a few sets in advance
>>85040308What is a Prisma Illya?
>>85041222I see. I'm usually all over spoilers on /a/ as well.
>>85039312By the way, they also started their own youtube channel instead of using the aniplex one.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdJFMPqwISb5yiFZRw5347g/videosHopefully it means their videos will stop being Japan-only region locked for no fucking reason at all.
neat promo
>>85041603They finally realised after this long....
>>85039312based
>>85039312That’s honestly a little surprising given it hasn’t had an ongoing show or comic in a decade.>new artAt least that’s cool. Wonder if Arakawa will be doing any of it.
>>85040887That’s wrong. BS and DM hasn’t been in English in years. Only Wixoss’s most recent sets are English. No BD yet and a number of games with no English versions that we post all the time.>>85040676>Does everybody have to play and talk in japanese if everything is in japanese on the cards?Generally if you want to play a JP Weiss, Wixoss, or DM deck, or play games like Z/X, people will either memorize the cards or print out what they do. A number of players I’ve met know enough Japanese to recognize what some cards do (memorizing the words for “hand” or “destroy” or “deck” for example) and yeah if you’re actually playing in Japan it probably means you’re using some level of Japanese conversation.
>>85043083I think it's celebrating its 20th anniversary and there's 2 live action movies in the works.
>>85043192oofThe one live action movie I saw... man, it was like the first half was a tribute of love, and then for the second half they got some bum off the streets who'd never even heard of FMA. Totally caught me off guard.
Build Divide is never coming into English... they missed the boat completely.
How is Wixoss doing here in the west? Is it popular?
>>85043912Neither is Wixoss.
>>85044450Don’t know how popular, but it seems to be doing alright. Anecdotally my and other anon’s locals seem to be doing well, and people from other games have been trying it out. The online tournaments have been selling out and growing. Sets have gone through several reprints and they keep announcing more releases.It’s not gonna hit the top 5 games any time soon I’d wager, but it’s doing fine.
>>85041869We're playing instruments in the middle of a fight now? man this game really lost the thread after the first set or so
>>85044450hopefully it get's bigger so we can have tournaments irl. The main problem is some stores don't stock wixoss and a lot don't even host locals.
i HATE anime screenshot card games
>>85045334How do you feel about Lord of the Rings screenshot card games?
Fab brosDo we care about uprising anymore now that it's delayed? I feel like they built up so much hype and now I'm already past caring
>>85046059I'm sorry you're such a burnt out consoomer, anon.It's natural for posting to slow now that we know the whole set, but I'm sure most people are impatient to get their cards.
P10 SIGNI spoiler.>Alfou//Memoria, Doomed Beauty[Const]: SIGNI on your opponent's field get "[Auto]: At the beginning of your attack phase, put the top card of your deck into the trash."[Life Burst]: Target SIGNI on your opponent's field gets -8000 power until end of turn.
>>85032870It's going to be extremely relevant after the upcoming expansion. If you don't play around it, jinteki will just win the game
>>85046059Already out in AussieOpened a fabled earlier
>>85046059My local meta in US started playing it today anyway, fuck the delay. We let people proxy things they didn't have and gave UPR prize packs from prerelease leftovers.
metapoo lol
>>85047422None of the spoiled cards even interact with it, what are you talking about? and anyhow if installing and double advancing in 3 clicks is an auto-win, they can do that on basic actions.
P10 SIGNI spoiler.>Tanabata, Natural Plant Queen[Const]: During your attack phase, when paying ener costs, you may put cards from underneath this SIGNI into the trash as if they were in your Ener Zone. You can only pay up to 3 ener for ener costs this way per turn.[Auto]: At the beginning of your attack phase, put the top two cards of your deck underneath this SIGNI.[Auto]: When this SIGNI leaves the field, put target card from underneath this card from your trash into the Ener Zone.
Good luck in the Ceremony, bros.
>>85048623Holy shit, your store is pretty based.
I want to get into FFTCG. Are there any ways to play online with other people like Spelltable? I don't even see a pastebin.
>>85041262magickal girls that need to lewd one another to have enough mana to magick with
>>85045159bard is a fantasy class like any other. being able to style on your opponent with a song that kicks their ass with sheer power of your voice is cool.
>>85052126OCTGN supports it, or so I've heard.
>>85047343Love the combination of her Key outfit but OG strategy. Good shit.
>>85051256Hope you all have fun!
>>85043192Well that’s cool either way. Series has a number of characters to use too.
>>85051272Seriously
Welp, Build Divide is fucked with no new season announced.
>>85052170I think card games can do without that, thanks.
>>85052852Pretty sure card games already have that, so, whatever
>>85050506Wow this fucking thing. It’s limited but the amount of free ener is staggering. Nice to see more designs that aren’t just Big Green or Get Something From Ener.
>>85052126There aren’t usually too many players around here. At least not consistent ones.
>>85046059>living in 'murica
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>>85050329>spoiled cards I'm talking about the unspoiled ones. The face-down archives will be extremely relevant. You will see.
