No tax gang Edition>CSM Combat Patrolhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/09/let-the-galaxy-burn-with-a-little-help-from-combat-patrol-chaos-space-marines/>Knights on preorderhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/05/07/saturday-pre-orders-tonights-the-knight/>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs>Tools to Improve Battlescribe Readability:https://buttscri.be/40k.phphttps://rweyrauch.github.io/PrettyScribe/>3rd Party Models Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/UtBbGNpp>New 40k 9th rules backup Mega:4kEUnKSL#pPmf-8Qs_5blQ90_86kPJQ>Previous Thread:>>84517616>TQ:POST MODELS
>>84520420>No tax gang EditionNah, it's just that now that he has become the tax collector.
>>84520420Traitor guard reporting in, Lord
Beeg Tank
seems wrong
>>84520435It's a space marine. What's the issue?
>>84520433I still with this thing was a giant transport. If it was I might have gotten into Primaris
Don't ever speak to me or my daughter again.
>>84520420>TQA bit old, no time to paint lately.
Huron? I know its on the wrong hand, but they might have reversed the picture ( or just changed it)
>>84520435They can work
>>84520435I understand why it looks weird, though I actually like that take on iron warriors. The mk3 is also getting 20x packs to you can always only put 4 & 6 every now and then.Those stripes are gorgeous
>>84520440IW in mk4.like white scars in terminator plate. its perfectly lore appropriate, but it just feels wrong.
>>84520420
>>84520435Iron Warriors ought to gain their stripes, anon. And their bayonets. Boi is still squeaky clean, armor oiled up and polished. It'll change after his first siege
>>84520433>TÜNK
>>84520452They look like pic related
>>84520435the White Scar is gorgeous
>>84520451Imma breed that tank
>>84520435Why did they put drain holes above the feet? Are mk6 submergible?
>>84520453Daemon engine for would eaters
>>84520420>POST MODELS
>>84520475I want more of those "100% loyalist gene seed bro ;^)" chapters.
What would be the melee rules of an astartes banner?Something like S+1 Ap0 D1, Each time the bearer fights, it can make 1 additional attack with this weapon and no more than 1 attack can be made with this weapon?
>>84520453Too big based on the arm plate I think. I’ll bet it’s a helbrute variant for WE (called Bloodgorge Hellreaper or something)
>>84520453It could be a new deamon engine / decimator type of machine.At least it's nearly guaranteed to be chaos and 40k. I understand why huron and it's possibly him, but it's the wrong hand and that means he has a new lookHuron in terminator armor
>>84520480Yea, just follow the tutorail
>>845204657>2>5
https://vk.com/wall-55168313?q=vinculanew Gaunts Ghost novella for whoever wants it
>>84520464I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. It's just a space marine.
>>84520497>>84520480Unsure those bayonets should be S5
>>84520475Almost, but I do like Sons of the Phoenix. I was about to paint my guys as them but I enjoyed painting purple more than white.
>>84520514You are pushing with both hands so they shouldn't be S4
>>84520453he does flame whole squads of Tarellian Dog Soldiers in the space of a few seconds. So it could be an upgraded arm. I reckon he'll be the size of Marneus Calgar if he gets remade.
>>84520488Makes sense. I want world eaters dreadnoughts
>>84520492There's a Primaris banner bearer wielding a power sword.As for banners, they were fucking useless in 7E, and they still are now. Except the RELIC ones that gave you +1A. Which still exist.I mean come on. "You gain Fearless, never mind that you already had And They Shall Know No Fear" wtf?
How would you rank them? For me it'd be:>God-TierTHIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK>GreatBeakieBladeguard>GoodInfiltrator>OKIntercessorSuppressor>BadGravis>Actively OffensiveReiver>Shit nigga, what the fuck are you doing?Gravis (Up-armored)Inceptor
World Eater bros, how you feeling? What kind of lists have you been running? Do you expect to change your style much with the new release?I’ve gone 50/50 playing triple transport and berzerker blobs for a while. Usually have a bloodletters bomb detachment for midgame shenanigans and fill the rest of the points with random stuff. The core simplicity of driving a truck of guys straight into the enemy to fuck them up is very appealing to me and I don’t plan on adapting too much.
>>84520497>>84520480are they powered bayonets, or is the button to release the plug in tube for the bayonet?
>>84520486It's so the gallons of cum his massive balls release constantly don't clog up the armour.
>>84520420Brother Pajeets life from new techmarine to walking call center.
Does anyone know the Blood Angels successor that wears off black armour with deep red trim.Its a lesser known successor, famous for sleeping in stasis crypts between campaigns
>>84520491
>>84520491Sons of Antaeus are rumoured to be DG geneseed reworked
>>84520536If it was up to me, i'd wear either Bladeguard or Armored Gravis helmets: everything offers the same protection anyways.Say, what's the upper inlet for? Space helmets always have>Inlets>Whiskers>TubesIt always looks so stupid. But>Glowing eyesare the worst offender. "My eyes are here! Shoot here!"
>>84520550Charnel Guard
Local GW was doing a little fun event so I thought I might as well pop downit was essentially a vehicle bash, and everyone but one showed up with a knight
>>84520453Daemon Prince Huron
I'm not happy, /tg/. NOT. HAPPY.
Indisputable fact: This is the only acceptable Traitor Guard aesthetic.
>>84520420Anyone ever had issues with well-painted recasts at Warhamemr World? Going next week
>>84520586why are you not happy?
the squats look ugly, and we know GW are capable of making good dwarfs when they feel like it ( these, and the FW necromunda squats)
So, anyone have a copy of the new Knight codices already?
>>84520586Why are you not happy, anon?
>>84520536I have nothing to add. It's a perfect classement.Best helmets are pre primaris. Best primaris is infiltrator. It's that simple.
>>84520435Meh i prefer true Iron Warrior aesthetic but is not that bad
>>84520536Top tier>Bladeguard>Beakie>IntercessorHigh tier>Interceptor>GravisMid tier>Infiltrator>SuppressorLow tier>ReiverShit tier>Incursor
>>84520587Vraks fags need to gas themselves
>>84520586Why are you not happy?
>>84520536>>God-TierBladeguard>>GreatIntercessorGravis>>GoodBeakieReiver>>OKSuppressor>>BadInfiltrator>>Actively OffensiveBlank Space>>Shit nigga, what the fuck are you doing?Gravis bubleheadIncursor
Posting for the Emperor's Children
>>84520587That's not a former guardsman nor the Vraks militia was Traitor Guard.
sorry to be the newfag here, but what exactly do i put before the megalink to the updated 40k rules in the OP?im not up to date since mega got shut down.
>>84520607But everyone on Vracks has gas masks
>>84520587I absolutely hate this hand spike thing
>>84520592>>84520598>>84520613I'm trying to remove the mold lines from 30+ termagants and need to finish painting 7 warriors, a Hive Tyrant and finish basing other miniatures. That's not including my other armies
>>84520637
>>84520637But are we not supposed to assemble and paint miniatures?
>>845206264kEUnKSL#pPmf-8Qs_5blQ9O_86kPJQYou shit on OP for not fixing the link
>>84520536Perfect taste.
>>84520594Kinfolk aren't dwarves simple as
>>84520655More dorf than you.
>>84520537Your most likely going to heavily change your style, since most of the options in the CSM will (probably) not be available to you once your own codex will be released
>>84520647>But are we not supposed to assemble and paint miniatures?Have you ever had the experience of removing mold lines from Tyranids? Nevermind 20 year old Termagants?
>>84520536Why do people like beakies? Looks like a bird is using the armor.
>>84520453New Defiler.
GW should just sell pre-built pre-painted models. Extra for the premium minis that have their moldlines cleaned up
>>84520671Are you saying we shouldn't remove mold lines?
>>84520681That's because you lack the visual culture to identify it correctly as a type of medieval helmet, and a reference to Excalibur movie about arthurian drama that's one of the sources for the 40k setting.
>>84520681New thing bad old thing good
>>84520698*cough*
Is the jump pack blood angel chaplain kit plastic?I want the crozius and helmet from it but I don't wanna bother if it's finecastDoesn't say on the GW site
>>84520671>aaaaaa help me I can't deal with assembly and prep of 20 chaff LolLmao
>>84520681>Why do people like the helmet that just looks like a sci-fi bascinet/saukopf helmet on their sci-fi space knights?Gee, I wonder. There is probably an element of nostalgic elitism present but I think most people just like how unique it looks compared to most other helmets. Most people probably just want to get away from the bog-standard Mk.7 and Mk. X and so they're willing to play/use anything that looks different, be it IW with Mk. 3, DG with Mk. 2, half the chapters that use Mk.6, etc.
>>84520722Actual minis. Not action figures.>>84520705>removing moldlines You are throwing away money.You paid for that plastic
>>84520626mega DOT nz SLASH folder SLASH
>>84520698This already exists and is available from your local commission studio. >
>>84520740>Actual minis. Not action figures.I'd pay to see two people play using 2k point armies made of the 40k action figures xD
>>84520648still cant find it..
>>84520435Is it supposed to look brown? Because it does
>>84520420Army for this feel?
>>84520464>space marines in space marine armor looks wrong...BECAUSE!!!I will never understand you marinepiggies.
>>84520809Space Slann
>>84520587i prefer Blood Pact/Sons of Sek.The fact there isn't a Gaunts Ghosts vs Blood pact Killteam is disgraceful
>>84520809Black templars
>>84520809Iron Warriors
>>84520435>>84520480did I miss something? are HH kits truescale now?
Play Necromunda you sons of bitches.
If GW can make this, then they can make nice Mandrakes in plastic. So where my goddamn Dark Eldar wave of models?
Someone give me a goddamned faction so I can quit floundering and just paint one. I can't fucking pick. Nothing horde.
>>84520895yep. roughly the same as new CSM, deathwatch veterans, space marine heroes gacha, etc.
>>84520905>If GW can make this, then they can make nice Mandrakes in plastic. So where my goddamn Dark Eldar wave of models?NPC factions don't get models, simple as.
Which one is your favourite?For me, it's the Mk IV.
>>84520917
>>84520901no. but i did buy some cawdor because they're 10/10 models
I ordered a single finecast ur-ghul because I think they are cute
>>84520907Custodes. There. Now go be a lazy nigger.
>>84520907Iron Warriors
>>84520917yet there have been perhaps 50 other assorted eldar/elf kits in the last 18 months.
>>84520941Were they Dark Eldar tho?
>>84520941>50I'm gonna need a list with a claim as wild as that.
>>84520918> not beakiesShit taste.
>>84520905im assmad
Why are Space Marines more popular than aliens factions? Which kind of world we live in where bland armoured mutant humans are more liked than robot skeletons, space hungry bugs and futuristic elfs?
>>84520954It is the Mk VI.Are you blind?
>>84520961>billed as the protagonists>have so many different options they have their own drop down menu>heavily marketed to the point they show up in Family CircusGee I fuckin wonder you goddamn stooge
>>84520918Second Mark VII
>>84520953Lumineth is 27 by itself, DoK got about 5 or so, Eldar got like 10? Now add about 7 assorted Warcry/Underworlds, now add a few Dark Eldar.Also Tree Elves get 4 new kits week.
>>84520936>I'll krump with ya sweetie pie!
>>84520733It barely looks like a fucking bascinet and you know it. I fucking wish space mango armor took more inspirational ques from the space knights they're totes supposed to be.t. bascinet enjoyer
God, I just love Iron Warriors!
>>84520985Consider your claims substantiated.
>>84520809>>84520863I second black templars.>>84520887This is some lies. Iron warriors have drunk the chaos magick kool-aid
>>84520918MKV
>>84520985Not to mention the entire fucking Necron refresh.
>>84520961>Why are Space Marines more popular than aliens factions?They just are, and literally always have been. Warhammer space marines being well liked and profitable is a phenomenon that pre-dates 40k's release.
>>84520420I wish GW didn’t have a hate-boner for the FW knights. I love their style a lot more than the plastic kits.
>>84520918Any other than corvus.The bird helmets are fucking stupid
>>84520497Are they available yet?
>>84520918mk8 is my favourite. mainly because of how rare it is still, even with deathwatch vets, 1 sternguard in metal, 1 sternguard in plastic, 1 space marine heroes.
In your head canon, how the grav-gun looks like? For me, it is a green laser pulse.
>>84520536SuppressorGravisBeakieBladeguardIncursorInfiltratorGravis 2ReiverIntercessor
>>84520918I'm going back and forth between Mk4 and mk5. MK4 for jump packers for sure.
>>84520961I'm assuming your human as well.>be human>want to play humansI connect to them, I want for our humans to one day conquer the stats, to travel across our galaxy kicking xenos our rightfully owned human clay/hydrogen.Fuck xenos. Pop pop
>>84521056Damn, that's one stumpy primaris.Did he get the dwarfism geneseed planted into him?
Building some Drukhari bits up, is my hunch that Reavers used to be better and they've been pretty badly nerfed correct?I did ask about this before but I can't really see a reason to run them over Hellions which are 3pts cheaper for essentially the same profile (a bit slower) but with a fallback + charge, way better damage 2 melee profile and an assault ranged profile rather than rapid fire, actually allowing you to advance + shoot.
>>84521085I-i-its the aesthetic that c-count
>>84521067I identify with the eldar, our hubris lead to the downfall of our civilization of beautiful, tall and ethereal people
>>84521091Reavers are still good, r-right?
>>84520433I like your Ultras. You have a lot of really cleaned up recasts that look really sharp overall. You had a dope librarian if I recall >>84520452Same; I painted 1 hour this week>>84521056They're fantastic models. Metal 4th/5th sculpts before they went finecast have that timeless weight and feel to them. Tyranid Vets are kickassI have a game tomorrow against Thousand Sons. He's going to run heavy Scarab Occult Terminators (10~) but I don't know the rest. He runs more elite kson lists + Chaos Knight allies.
>>84521067God what a fucking cringe post all left was a IG pic and i would die from maximum cringe.
>>84520710I had never made the connection but I always thought those helmets look like shit too. Thanks
>>84521067>I'm assuming your human as well.Don't do that. That's my human.
>>84520917Tyranids just got the Parasite.
>>84520420Some WIP clowns on the left. Finished on the middle and right ( besides basing)Now to get to putting checkers on at least 1 limb on each clown.
>>84520809>No one has posted Mechanicus yetAbsolutely shameful.
>>84520480Where can I buy those minis? They are so cool. Can't find them on GW site tho'.
>>84521175Looks fine to be do you really have to do diamonds
>>84520497The quality of the tutorials has gone down massively lately
>>84520429all taxation is theft, but not all theft is taxation.
>>84520722Looking at USAgundamstore, the other Joy Toy lines mog their space marines.
>>84520671>buying 20 year old modelslol, lmao, kek even.
>>84521067I identify as a Genestealer Cultist.
>>84521067Space Marines aren't human.
>>84521191not available yet for another month or so.
>Does the Lamenter gimmick of risking their lives to save civvies >Doesn't fail So why arent they wanked off on the scale of the Lamenters?
>>84520538pretty much every bayonet has a button like that on the side.
>>84521254Wait, so they post all those tutorials without us being able to actually use it? Lol.
>>84521258Boring color scheme.
>>84521252Genetically speaking, they are.
Im convinced deathwing armies are the easiest to play in the game. They literally just plant themselves on objectives and sit there unkillable
>>84521258Because there's a deep seeded attraction to noble suffering that you don't get when you win.
>>84521291and this somehow doesn't apply to death guard or custodes?
>>84521294>>84521258ya but the Raven Guard are typically also the 1st founding marines who GW makes lose though.
>>84521294So Lamenterfags are Iron Warriorfags? A non beginner friendly color scheme combined with martyr complex fanboys?
>>84521189This is a Blood Raven Dreadnought Techmarine
Post models. Here's my tactical marines.
>>84521343I'm sensing a lot of salt in this post
>>84521258Whats the appeal of Raven Guard and their successor? muh stealthy marines is such an oxymoron for 40kRaptors are even worse it takes the bird factor and removes to be bland US military /k/ wank
>>84521343Iron Warriors are one of the easiest paint schemes in 40k.
>>84521312Those armies dont get chief apothecaries which are probably the most busted model in the game
>>84521376AHHHHHHHHH PRIMARIS MARINES HELP US
>>84521343>Non beginner friendlyUnless you're adamant on paint hazard stripes IW are one of the easiest to paint. Far more easy than the BL.
>>84521389Thousand Sons get a model that can do the same kind of thing on Scarab Termies.From the sounds of things you're just getting your ass beat by an upper-mid tier army
>>84521396I'm sorry anon, it is already too late
What do you guys think about the Magic the Gathering crossover?
>>84521400even if someone doesnt want to do hazard stripes on curves panels, they can do them on stuff like the gun casing and it still looks good.
>>84521420Stupid cashgrab. But it will make them millions.
>>84521258because it's not part anybody focuses on when they're talked about. Raven Guard are pigeon-holed as the stealth chapter and any conversation about them goes back to "HoW cAn MaRiNeS bE sTeAlThY" shitposting by retards who think "stealth" is nothing but ninja rolling and crouch running.
>>84521291They're slow as balls.If something ever goes wrong for them it's impossible to correct. So they punish poor forethought severely.
>>84521258WHEN I WAS
>>84520710But Excalibur sucks.
>>84521258Because the whole point is that alimentary suffer but do the noble thing regardless. The setting punishes them for being a pinprock of brightness in it but they suffer on. If they had their Cale and at it too they'd just be a bland Gary Stu chapter
>>84521420Should have done it 20 years ago when MTG had better art.
>>84521420Should have shown the commander cards for all the factions. Also, Abaddon has gayface lol.
>>84521286Genetically speaking, they definitely aren't
>>84521420MtG died for me years ago. First noticed the rot had started when they tried to make rotating commander a thing.The final straw was when they started talking more about how diverse the characters they were representing were, than how many diverse playstyles they enabled. These stupid crossover sets are creatively bankrupt.
>>84521420I hate crossovers, period. Doesn't matter what they're for. Immediately cheapens the settings and diminishes any respect I have for both creators.
>>84520420>POST MODELSLast one I finished.Using him tomorrow, so I expect him to do horribly
>>84521469The Emperor designed the gene-seed to be a bio-enhancement project and not a genetic modification one; all of a Space Marine's inhuman abilities are a result of the artificially engineered organs shoved into their bodies during their creation, either directly (the secondary heart or multi-lung) or indirectly (the Ossmodula, which alters their hormone balance and makes their skeleton growth go berserk). Consequently, this means a Space Marine would technically pass a genetic scan of being "human" better than an abhuman like an Ogryn or Ratling would.
>>84521420I want to rape the people responsible for it. Then kill them in front of their family members, then kill their families in front of each other.
are space wolves fun/good for a newfag?
>>84521396Pr*maris would probably lose their bolters before they die.
Anons I can't open mega. Needs a key. Help an Imperial fist out..
>>84521143>>84521445Genuine Faggotry
>>84521529You like them? Go for it.But please, skip the Santa sled.
>>84521540>Needs a key.
>>84521542>Beakiefag calls others faggotsLmafo
>>84521544I just had to look that up, and yeah thats pretty gay.
>>84521258bleeding hearts are popular because faggots like to "suffer for a good cause" more than they like to accomplish good things
>>84521565The Lamenters are retarded especially on the ork slave world its pure martyr complex cope
>>84520446It's not? Given the size and design I had assumed it'd be one.
>>84521565It's a grim dark setting where there is nothing but war and hopelessness. You are unironically the faggot here for going against the grain.
>>84521525How much do you weigh?
>>84521580What not liking the Lamenters? Plenty of other chapters can save civilians without making the chapter go to near extinction
>>84521565>accomplish good things>in 40kWrong setting, anon
The Lamenter fanboys also make the Mantis Warriors and Executioners lesser known.What the fuck are those 2 even doing?
>>84520740>don't touch the sprue, you're throwing away plasticB-based?
>>84521604Being irrelevant, mostly.
>>84521580>there is nothing but waryes>and hopelessnessnoTake that faggot shit elsewhere. This is a space war setting rather than a feelings setting.
>>84520420All he ever wanted was the cum.
>>84521604Maybe those two chapters should have more appealing details, it’s not like the Lamenters existing have made the Charcarodons or the Minotaurs less known
>>84521604Mantis Warriors got primaris and are still shat on. The Space Sharks own their homeworld now The Executioners really have nothing not even any primaris mentions either and since they got off extremely light compared to the other 2 people dont care for them
>>84521612>We can't expect sorcery to fix all our problems.
>>84521565>>84521294Makes sense to me. Similar stuff happens regarding underdogs
>>84521555Nvm, I'm just mega retarded.Thanks anon
It peeves me that CSM seem to nearly exclusively have their pistol/rifle in their right hand, and their melee weapon in their left.I just wanted to make a modern version of this old codger, but that seems a bit impossible at the moment.
>>84521637>Own a fucking planet >Still are just a fleet based chapter at the edge of the galaxy How are the sharks such chads?
>>84521646>FOR MY NEXT MAGIC TRICK>BLAMO
Wait wait wait are you telling me we can't have a happy ending in a Grimdark setting of infinite war? No heroic histories ending well? Wew what a let down
>>84521627You are a repressed homosexual
>>84521665that would be gay
>>84521651Can you not use loyalist bits? It’s not like “sharpening” the fist’s fingers with green stuff would be hard or anything
>>84521651His gun looks funny.
>>84521651>Worshippers of space satan are nearly exclusively leftiesMakes sense.
>>84521651Why does his bolter even has iron sights when the magazine's in the way?
>>84521672Grimderp is gay.
Realistically, which mtg color should each primarch be?In my opinion, Guilliman should be white/blue, like his dad is
>>84521665the 5th edition edgrelords only think a faction is good if they lose to the brink if its anything else they scream the setting is becoming like marvel
>>84521588No one is accomplishing good things.Everyone is "suffering for a good cause"- their own.40k isn't about seeing who can win, it's about who can lose the hardest and keep going, because the ideals never match the methods.Calling people faggots for doing what the setting is based upon is peak faggotry in itself.>>84521627>This is a space war setting rather than a feelings settingAh yes...>To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the ________ and most ______ ______ __________. It is to ______ an ______ of _______ and _________. It is to have _____ of _______ and ______ drowned by the thirst laughter of dark gods.>This is a ____ and ________ era where you will find little _______ or ____. Forget the power of technology and science. Forget the promise of progress and advancement. Forget any notion of ______ ________ or __________. There is no peace amongst the stars, for in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.Not a feeling to be found.
>>84521056mk8 with that helmet is fantastic.
>>84521677I would have said the opposite. They need the hand with the most control to aim and shoot, while you just need to activate the chainsword or the force field of the power weapon to do a lot of damage
>>84521689Nah, the Emperor would be WUBRG
>>84521627>grimdark is not a feelingand cosmic horror is just galactic monster
Best looking model range across an army in 40K?
>>84521682The mood-stricken marine didn't bother removing it while customizing his bolter.That or the sculptor is retarded.
>>84521723Necrons?t. SM player
>>84521723Discounting the faces? Sisters.
Who are the Lucius & Saul of the 41st millennium?
>>84521693NTA, but the setting still allows, or arguably even focus more often than not, on marines being big, great heroes It also includes Ciaphas Cain
Attempting to build a Destroyer Lord from this Heavy I won today. But what equipment should be carrying in his 3 arms? Mechanically it'll probably be staff of light (to upgrade into Voltaic Staff so he can fight and shoot reasonably well) and a phylactery, but I'm not sure if the old polearm destroyer lord concept really holds water anymore, now that basically all destroyers have their weapons fixed to their limbs.
>>84521723Genestealer Cults.
You WILL 3D print
>>84521682The Dark Mechanicus operates on mysterious ways
>>84521711Nothing about that guy is black, red or green
>>84521749Lucius and Lucius.
>>84520420>When she had retired from the room with her staff, Horus sat back, alone amongst his inner circle. ‘I have often thought,’ he remarked, ‘that it might be the eldar who unseat us. Though fading, they are the most ingenious creatures, and if any could over-master mankind and break our Imperium apart, it would likely be them. At other times, I have fancied that it would be the green-skins. No end of numbers and no end of brute strength, but now, friends, I am certain it will be our own tax collectors who will do us in.’>There was general laughter. Loken thought of the poem in his pocket. Most of Karkasy’s output he handed on to Sindermann for appraisal, but at their last meeting, Karkasy had introduced ‘something of the doggerel’. Loken had read it. It had been a scurrilous and mordant stanza about tax collectors that even Loken could appreciate. He thought about bringing it out for general amusement, but Horus’s face had darkened.>‘I only half joke,’ Horus said. ‘Through the eaxectors, the Council places a burden on the fledgling worlds that is so great it might break us. It is too soon, too comprehensive, too stringent. Worlds will revolt. Uprisings will occur. Tell a conquered man he has a new master, and he’ll shrug. Tell him his new master wants a fifth of his annual income, and he’ll go and find his pitchfork. Aenid Rathbone, and administrators like her, will be the undoing of all we have achieved.’>More laughter echoed round the room.>‘I’m serious,’ he said. ‘This could trigger civil war in certain regions.Why is the Emperor such a tax-fiend anyway?
>>84521001>It barely looks like a fucking bascinet and you know it.It's literally an oversized hounskull grafted onto a motorcycle helmet. I don't know what else to tell you.>>84521723On average? Probably Sisters or Dark Eldar.
>>84521780If you don’t 3D print Gamza will come to your house
>>84521780Yes.
>>84521780Will I also have to talk everyone's ear off about how great 3d printing is at the slightest provocation?
>>84521771If you do make a lord using the new destroyer lower body, please share it, I've yet to see one painted.
>>84521780You WILL post your 3D printed and painted minis.
>>84521793He rejects the holy word of ancap.
has PDFAnon said whether he's doing either Knight codex?
>>84521824but you react so quickly to the slight perceived attack, you'd fit right in
>>84521805Oh I’m so scared a pissed off christcuck who makes clickbait
>>84521239Yes, but I'm also a su kee for IF
>>84521805Isn't he Mexican or something? I can just have him deported.
>>84521847I 3d printed and painted this bad boy recently for mother's day
>>84520486They're vents.
>>84521780No. Fuck off resin vegan
>>84521879Is that from an Underworlds warband? If not, that's an excellent design.
>>84521917It's from Underworlds.
>>84521034They look good yeah
>>84521034GW hates anything that has more flavor than the stuff they make
>>84521565The Lamenters were borderline heretics and got off way too easy after Badab.
>>84521928It's still a very good print.
>>84521976>borderline hereticsthat's a weird way to say "misjudged loyalists"
>>84521377>>84521003i really hate it when iron warriors are depicted as wearing the same type of armor as chaos marines.they're not chaos, they despise being overtaken by chaos, and have a utilitarian/tech knack to them, so why are they gluing horns to their helmets and adding ornate chaosy trims to their armor as a tribute to the chaos gods?
>>84521843i made one
>>84521780Ok
>>845220253D printing gunpla is cringe its made locally in japan and its cheap as is
>>84521843here is mine
>>84522032GW produces its shit in the UK tho and bandai are assholes AND the only cheap kits are HGsRGs and MGs have risen in price and bandai cant fight scalpers
>>84522032Peeps usually 3d print conversions and such, bandai's kit are too cheap and complex to be copied for printing
>>84522012They are chaos marines, who hang out in the eye of terror. The armour mutates and warps over time just like their flesh does.
>>84520587And that is only one regiment/militia among thousands..
>>84522012You don't know shit about 40k IW if you think they are like in 30k, which they aren't. This >>84521003 is a cover from their defining novels. Maybe the fact that Medrengard is in the Eye of Terror and Perturabo is a daemon prince should be a clue, right?Try to keep up.
>>84522032>Gunpla>CheapHave you tried buying any recently? They're not fucking cheap. Only the basic HG kits are cheap.
>>84522000Hell yeah.Misjudged too lightly.
>>84522000>>84522134The minotaur's went to soft on these faggots
>>8452201240K iron warriors gave up trying to resist chaos. They're not as crazy about it as the Word Bearers, but they still ask the gods for favours and they bind daemons to their wargear all the time.It's kind of impossible when the only place you can live is on a Daemon world in the eye of terror.
>>84522047This is gonna sound silly, but I *love* the swirly effect on the orb.
>>84522153Shh, don't try to bring things like facts or logic before the iron autist. He's only gonna screech louder.
>>84522117>t.
Could Gork and Mork defeat Big E in a fight?
>>84522047Actually pretty neat.
>>84522202Fork and dork aren't real chaos gods.
>>84522047Thank you, already said but the orb is amazing, how did you do it?>>84522023please show me
>>84522222FORK AND DORK BROS WTF
>>84522097Honestly speaking, this sounds bogus. Pic-related is a mutated power armor. Those horns or ornaments are clearly hand-made.
>>84522222Quints of truth. Ford and Dork are just shitters.
>>84520435I feel like iron warriors can only really rock decepticon style helmets as in ones with either a visor or rectangular eyeslits and always big mouth covering grill.Soundwave in particular always gave me mad iron warrior vibes with both his looks and persona
>>84520698You can already pay people to do this, GW doin it would just cost more.
>>84520435Iron Warriors look better like this.
>>84522249Yeah i agree. An excuse i cope with is that they probably import their armor from whatever hellforge nearby is making them and they are ofc gonna look chaosified. Its still a shame bc it just doesnt fit their vibe at all
I think lascannons should be flat 4 damage.
>>84522295I love those upgrade kits
>>84522249>>84522292Nope, in several bits of lore there are descriptions of things like the armor trim flowing like water into new shapes or new parts growing right out of the armor.
>>84522307Thats good considering how frequently they're blatantly shilled around here
>>84520686part of me wishes it was part of me also thinks the defiler is timeless and cannot be improved
>>84522325Maybe people are just excited about them considering how bleak the primaris future was looking.
>>84522295>>84522307my only gripe is the lack of backpack bits. I'd like some spare battery holders (not battery packs) to put on the backpack, guess I'll have to make them
>>84522343>was lookingbrother we're already living it
>>84520681I just like the more sci fi looking style of Rogue Trader marines. They look less knightly, more like cyborgs full of cables and shit.
>>84522343Yeah I'm sure people are creaming their pants over the concept of being able to run devastators slightly more cheaply than before.100% organic hype to have them posted literally every thread
>>84522249For most chaos marines the armour and weapons they're using now is the same stuff they were using during the heresy. There's a bunch of stories where marines start to physically fuse to their armour over time, or find it changing as they spend time in the warp.
>>84522373Where do space marines keep all their spare ammo?
>>84522318I know what the lore says, but it doesn't mean literally everything on their power armor comes from the warp. Some things are made, some things grow by itself. I didn't say power armor don't mutate - it does and I even gave an example of such mutated power armor. Still, most chaos marines don't wear such mutated gear, just, like the other anon said, pieces of armor made in some nerby hellforge.
>>84522368Nah. Thanks to all the new HH kits I won't ever have to buy a single primaris model so the future has changed a lot for me.
>>84520698If you want a squad of space marines to cost £300 then feel free.They're not going to manufacture them in China, not with the economy over there falling apart. So they'd have to pay UK wages for people to paint them.
>>84522229thanks. It's primed white, with 50/50 contrast medium and warp lightning on the base, then all-over with tesseract glow. a glaze with phalanx yellow at the top, and little swirlies with phalanx yellow around the globe
Anyone else gonna snip off the birds and use them as familiars for sorcerers?
>>84522400What does being able to buy tactical marines change for you
>>84522400modern space marine bolters probably wont fit on them if you're hoping to god to use them as normal tacticals.
>>84522343The poor marines never get anything, GW should stop supporting those greedy other factions.
>>84522375You seem mad primarisfag
>>84522375>seething over gw finally releasing decent weapon packs
>>84522000You are right. Your dubs and trips are a sign from the Emperor.
>>84522375I am personally creaming about GW making the part I most enjoy about marines a lot more convenient and cheaper when it looked like they wanted to kill it entirely with the primaris sales model. There's also a lot of gratification from seeing how all the arguments in favour of primaris existing get torn to pieces even if it won't matter in the end.
>>84522435I'd want decent weapon packs on units that actually matter, with weapons people care about. But no, more annoyed about how you absolute faggots spam about it every day
>>84522383"Their armour, weapons and even their physical form have changed" - it doesn't mean it mutated. It says what it says. It could change, you know, by replacing it by gear that was "chaosified" in a forge, no?
>>84522384I also wondered this. The average space marine is so outnumbered in his average engagements or has to fight extremely bulky/invisible/fast/sense numbing enemies and woud realistically have an entire bandoiler of bolter mags on him
>>84522414The other option was having to spend a fuck ton of money converting and kitbashing the using primaris bodies so it changes a lot.>>84522421They come with their own bolters though why would I need more?>>84522426Whenever did I say that? I'm just excited about the new kits.
>>84522435>>seething over gw finally releasing decent weapon packsOh boy, I'm so excited to buy DLC for my space marine models!
>>84522327I understand that some people like it, and I acknowledge it.For me though, it has always been and always will be the ugliest model GW has ever designed. It it physically impossible to design a more hideous and lopsided model. It looks like a children's spider toy somebody glues plasticard blades to. I don't really hate it, because you almost never see people playing them or talking about them, but it's just not my thing. In fact I find the idea that it's some people favorite model kinda funny.I can get wanting something to stay the same if you really like it, but the Defiler can't be changed soon enough. Whatever they do to it will be an improvement. If the sculpt a trans pride flag and bust of Martin Luther King Jr. onto it, that will be an improvement. If they squat the model entirely and it turns out that rumour engine is something completely different, that will be an improvement. It is impossible to ruin it, so I look forward to seeing what they do with it.
>>84522012I understand where you're coming from with the appeal of chaos-free IW but I will also ask you to consider pic related
>>84522450>all the arguments in favour of primaris existing get torn to piecesLooking better than squatoid manlets is a fact though. Besides most of the arguments against Primaris are being replicated by these neo-manlets.
>>84522454This kills the Primaristards :)
>>84522454If I can put up with having primaris shoved down my throat literally everywhere I think you can put up with a few people being happy about getting stuff they like.
>>84522406Dully noted, resurrection orbs are necron/10, thanks a thousand!
>>84520497>what looks to be bit of nub on the gyro of the backpack>parts missing any shading whatsoever so the head and parts of the legs are just pure white with no definitiondamn. dunc was really carrying them huh
>>84522491>Looking better than squatoid manlets is a fact though.Sure, but it's something that didn't require primaris, just newer models with a better scale. These beakies, CSM, rubrics and plague marines all do that and they aren't primaris.>Besides most of the arguments against Primaris are being replicated by these neo-manlets.Not really.
>>84522454>with weapons people care about>plasma, melta, flamers, HBs, autocannons, lascannons, missiles, multimelta, plasma cannon are weapons people don't care aboutYou really are a seething primaris kiddy?
>>84522494So yeah. >Volkite that you can't use>Heavy Flamers that you can't use>d6 Lascannons>Missile Launchers that are complete shit>Auto Cannons that are complete shit>Plasma Cannons, possibly one of the worst heavy weapons in the gameOh but poggers you get some multimelta. Going to run MM Devs over Eradicators?
>>84522494I'm so upset that I don't have the privilege of paying for weapons options as a separate kit instead of having to make do with all the possible bits I need just being in the box in the first place.Truly firstborn chads are lucky that GW allows them to show their devotion through such extravagantly expensive options.
>>84522498I'd rather I never saw marine shit again, and I sincerely doubt you were ever quiet about Primaris.Whats especially cringe is the posting of all these boxes, and I would put money on never seeing squads using them
>>84522479the defiler is (for a fact) a staple of chaos as a faction. it is to CSM what stalkers, hunters and whirlwinds are to space marines. in that no one uses them at all but if they were squatted you would bet your ass people would complain
>>84522517>These beakies, CSM, rubrics and plague marines all do thatAnd look worse than Primaris. >Not really.Yes, really. >Muh plain armour>Muh monopose>Muh one weapon squad load outsAnd the beaks only have five body poses total.
>>84522519If you can show me an image of you playing with missile launcher equipped marines in the last decade I'd be surprised.
>>84522563>>84522543>>84522517
>>84522522nta, but gravcannon/MM Devastators are fine out of a drop pod.But yeah, this is more useful for CSM than loyalists
>>84522551I hate whoever was in charge of commissioning art for 40K in 8th edition. It was all such trash.
>>84522486Lol ok these are really drippy i admit.It will never work with modern chais marine helmets though they're just too ornate and fantasy-like
>>84522522>>Heavy Flamers that you can't useSternguard also get them, but only BAchads can run Devastator squads with 4 of them.
>>84522581Based
>>84522494>releases bulk heavy weapons boxes for HH>removes CSM's ability to take two heavy weapons in a 10+ man squadWhichever one of you did this, put down the monkeys paw before you do something we'll all regret
what army sits indian style most often?
>>84522596That's how they've always looked in the artwork though.The models just didn't reflect it until GW started sculpting in 4K.
>>84522551Oh no for sure they would. I'm not saying it shouldn't exist, I just think the model is terrible. I think Daemon Engine spam is one of the coolest things CSM have that's unique to them, and Defilers are an important part of that. I totally agree.But even if you like the sculpt, you can't deny that it just doesn't fit with the current direction Chaos has been heading in for the last 10 years. The Venomcrawler and Lord Discordant and even the older model like the Forgefiend and Lord of Skulls still look great. But the Defiler looked old and tired and out of place 10 years ago. Some old models age really well. I think that the Falcon Chasis and it's variants would be really hard to improve upon, even though they are almost as old as I am.But the Defiler as we have it now should've been updated 15 years ago. And I can't think of another model more iconic and more in need of it than the Defiler.
>>84522625>Designated shitting planet.Death Guard.
>>84522543I can post mine when they actually come out.>>84522563Different maybe. Not worse. Technically they are on the same level.>Muh plain armourAll marines have plain armour unless they are vets or officials.>Muh monoposeThey aren't monopose though. Technically primaris aren't either but since they have no options they are more limited.>Muh one weapon squad load outsIrrelevant to the models since we're still using 40k rules. And in any case, the problem isn't all having the same weapon, is having one separate squad per weapon.
>>84522596Yeah those heads only look good on word bearers and black legion, for everything else you gotta get creative. Thankfully everyone else had the same idea so third party bits and STLs for conversions are everywhere
>>84522563NTA butwhat a fag. Primaris are marines for a new demographic, they were made because SM wasn't plain enough for regular shitters. They are the new coke of space marine.They took away the miss matching of armor you could do with kits to one standardized armor. They skipped a god damn number just to lant on 10.They gave marines grav vehiculesThey gave them miniguns instead of assault cannons because you shitters are too fucking plain to not look at them weird.Primarse niggers should hangYou're such a whiny little clown, enjoy your primaris, they're made for you lot of mediocre arse lickers.
>>84522596Shut the fuck up. Chaos Iron Warriors are best Warriors.
>>84522693Lmfao.
>>84522693>NTA butLol. You are definitely that anon. Your beyond assravaged.
>>84522626>>84522596The grill mouth is the same but because of the swirly golden trim on the helmet it gives off very different vibes. The former have a style i can best describe as insane biker gangers, especially with the spikes on the helmet. The latter is what i'd imagine emperors children or chosen chaos marines wearing. It has a clean feel to it that cant be fixed by hust painting it silver or rusty
>>84522693>They took away the miss matching of armor you could do with kits to one standardized armor.>They gave them miniguns instead of assault cannons because you shitters are too fucking plain to not look at them weird.lol lmao
>>84522693I genuinely like both.
>>84522703This anon is based. Be like this anon
>>84522715Nigger nobody likes you, not even your own pack of rats.
>>84522704He should be upset if he likes primaris because if GW allows us to use the new Horus Heresy shit people will jump ship to manlets. It might start with vehicles and then marines. Primaris were a mistake of the previous management era and while they sort of salvaged them with 9th edition, most of them are shit.
>>84522693But anon rotor cannons predate assault cannons
>>84522693And Primaniggers hated him because he told them the truth.
>>84522736>nu-HH >40 identical marines in one box>manlet paypigs are creaming their pants
>>84522751Not that anon, what are you trying to point to in that screenshot?Only person I see liking primaris along side with him is the "woman of taste" anon, but even that is just blatant shitposting.
>>84522703havocs are the best CSM kit, change my mind (you can't)
>>84522791>that is just blatant truth.Ftfy
>>84522773I'm excited for plastic vehicles and hopefully legion specific units in plastic. Primaris vehicles are absolute garbage.
>>84522773Is it surprising they love these shits.Pretty much identical to one another.
>>84522806Why the bald spot
>>84522736Are you retarded? Do you not understand the concept of time? These are new rotor cannons, made with you in mind, did your mother beat you with a hammer or were you genuinely born a complete moron?>>84522743you're good. People like what they like, no justification. It's when the bullshit comes out that it's a problem.I kinda like infiltrators, even tho I won't get them, I'm more peeved that they dropped 40k marines for primaris.
>>84522752>while they sort of salvaged them with 9th editionI really fail to see how. All they've done with then in 9th is give them watered down versions of existing units. I can't think of a single new primaris unit that isn't conceptually worse than the things we already had.
>>84522808No, you see the kneepads are different.
>>84522808Why did you post the same mini 5 times?
>>84522812He is getting corrupted by chaos, ever notice how pretty much all chaos marines are bald?
>>84522773>40 identical marines in one boxThey may have the same armour mark but unlike primaris every body part has different designs. If primaris did they'd look like pic related.
>>84522295>I think lascannons should be flat 4 damageI agree, this was the core issue in 9th's balance from the beginning, damage should have been made consistent rather than increased. D3+3 and D6+2 simply made everything more lethal on top of making damage more consistent, changing lascannons to flat 4 and melta to 3 normal and 4 in half range would have been much better rather than making their average output higher. Honestly d3/d6 damage should be scrapped entirely across all weapons and changed to the average output.
>>84522814I can understand that.I started with primaris, I've gone to grab some tacticals and DW vets, which I don't think fully count but they are still cool.
>>84522816Bladeguard are nice and the whole of Black Templars line is very nice. You are right though, it's just updated old stuff.
When Robert when to have his one-to-one chat with Emps, did the fact that he had married and Eldar ever come up?
>>84522831>They may have the same armour mark but unlike primaris every body part has different designs.>Bro see, they added little rinky dink shit cables into the legs! They are so heckin' different"
>>84522791He thinks I'm lying by saing NTA, hence the screenshot. >>84522769>primaris minigun predates assault annonI will assume you misunderstood my post.
I like Primaris Marines and thier lore. I like Phobos Marines. I think the Firestrike servo turret is neat.
>>84522864Based. Based. Based.
>>84522864And you are a faggot for that. Congratulations.
>>84522743Based opinion
>Will the Primarch of the 2nd legion be finally revealed? Will his legion be Zulu-warrior inspired? Will his name be Harambe? So many questions
>>84522856>It's afraidYou're getting replaced.
>>84522859>Play the Xcom ripoff>Suddenly have an urge to purchase Grey KnightsNo... Not like this...
>>84522883Just remember that they are woefully outdated sculpts and you'll be fine.
>>84522693Yeah the Based Department would like to speak to you
>>84522840The models are amazing but they are literally vanguard veterans with no options or jump packs and souped up stats to justify their existance and sideline terminators. Black templars too, cool as fuck models but ir's just a regular crusader squad without access to weapon lists who can't ride land raiders.
>>84522856>>Bro see, they added little rinky dink shit cables into the legs! They are so heckin' different"1 is still more than 0
>>84522581>>84522611Who this?
>>84522065>>84522123RG and MG costs are fine, how could you possibly whine about that in a Warhammer thread?And no scalper prices don't count.
>>84522856>those little details / part varietyI think these are generally great, they did it with the mk4 kit and it's neat. BUTthose cables are fucking atrocious and only complement a good kit, 5 legs is outrageous, it's clear GW is gone and buried in the new audience, had to streamline for common niggers.
>>84522693How can you not like the new tacticool zoomer shit anon? You better look at this awesome display and change your mind lmao
>>84522850Probably. Big E congratulated him.
>>84522850Back to the call center pajeet
>>84522877The Primarch of the 2nd Legion is definitely going to be revealed somewhere down the line. He's already been given somewhat of a personality in Fulgrim: The Palatine Phoenix. Besides that, the 2nd primarch also has a bit more information about him than the 11th.
>>84522900Primaris have minor differences in their armour too though.
>>84522912if Big E approved of marrying Eldar women, why did he mount the Great Crusade to exterminate them?
>>84522850I dont think so. He deserves holy punishment for that.
>>84522922I thought the 2nd Primarch was the one who got possessed by the Rangdan and turned against humanity.
>>84522922So what about the zulu theme and harambe? Got any insights on that?
>>84522693The most heinous thing about primaris are the use of stubbers, I didn't buy an <ADEPTUS ASTARTES> vehicle to see "Heavy Stubber" in the datasheet
Are van saar a close enough scale for most 40k humans? I know some gangs are bizarre sizes but I've been thinking of using one to create something similar to this
>>84522937Not within the same kit. In any particular kit every body, helmet, arm and pauldron will be the exact same. With the exception of sergeants getting a skull on their foreheads and a studded shoulder pad they include sometimes.
>>84522955That heavy bolter is stupid but I love it.
>>84522773>>40 identical marines in one boxAren't 10-man Primaris boxes also usually 5-man squad doubled up? That's exactly the same format as the new beakies. At least with the new beakies you can throw special/heavy weapons you already have on them instead of having to buy an entirely separate kit just for Primaris™ Plasma Incinerators™.
>>84522909The only primaris unit that I think is passable are infiltrator; they can look like specialized mk7, their bolter look like specialized bolters. Not a fan of spec-ops marine hence why I'm not touching them.The phobos armor tho, only thing worse than it is gravis.It's plain as the asshole between the cheeks that the whole primaris range is made for a new audience of american and americanized shitters.
>>84522967>Not within the same kit.Yeah they do.
>>84522955I forgot about the dread suit.A fucking James Cameron's Avatar(tm) AMPwith a heavy bolter as a pistol and two not-m2 browning stubbers.How is it still a question that primaris shit over space marines? HOW???
Chaos worshiping Iron Warriors are the best
>>84520465These look great anon
>>84522939He launched the Great Crusade to reunify the human colonies. The general stane of the Imperium against Eldar is leave them be unless they attack their shit. See whole thing with Alaitoc. The craftworld was in the middle of imperial space but the Imperium only attacked them after the Eldar raided imperial shipping convoys multiple times. If they hadn't, the Imperium wouldn't have given two shits about them. For all their xenophobia, the imperium is quite lenient about alien races. It's just that the options are cunt Eldar that attack for no reason, tyranids, orks and necrons that want to see everyone dead or tau being expansionist cunts. The Imperium is justified in retaliating in all those cases.
>>84522922We know wich niche could steal that marine now? I dont know maybe some turkish fag with arab decorations?
>>84522955Hahahaha this is so hideous i feel sorry for any Primaris fsggot defender, seriously you can't have two worming braincells and think that shit is good.
>>84523019The Imperium exterminates any race that's easy to kill. Eldar only get treated leniently because they're strong enough to be a pain to kill.
>>84523007forgot the image
>>84522295Lascannons should have a chance to hit everything in a straight line up to max range.
>>84522922>reveal the one thing made to be not revealIf they do that I give up.
>>84523020>Zulu Warriors with leopard pelts, feathers n shieet>Primarch Harambe
>>84523037Based. I will say it again: Based.
>>84523032It would have been ok as a guard or maybe a scion exclusive vehicle
>>84523049lol that armor is so big it makes his proportions look completely fucked
>>84522797Fully agree
>>84522660>I can post mine when they actually come out.I doubt it.Its a slightly cheaper version of a squad you've been able to build for over 2 decades.
>>84523037>that IF beakie chained to the basilisk
>>84523050Inquisition, but without the prehensile hand. Take it or leave it.
>>84522976My problem with phobos is that they took a very cool concept and started changing shit around for no fucking reason.>Why is their armour so different? It should have been regular armour with camo cloaks just like Eliminators>Why aren't they carrying actual boltguns? Why do their bolt carbines have 5 scopes?>Why are they 3 fucking squads with different numbers instead of a single squad with 4 weapon options?
>>84523036Nah. Tau are the best example of this. The Imperium could just exterminate them, but they can't spend the resuources because they have a million open fronts. They could have exterminated them when they first found them, but they were not a threat so they didn't bother.
>TERROR TACTICS: The Night Lords revel in fear and mayhem, and will take apart an opposing army piecemeal, dividing and isolating the weakest enemies so that their confused cries can be savoured. Models in enemy units must subtract 1 from their Leadership characteristic for each unit with this trait that is within 6" of theirs (to a maximum of -3).>TERROR TROOPS (Aura): While an enemy unit is within 3" of this [Reiver] unit, subtract 2 from the Leadership characteristic of models in that unit.Problem, traiturds?
>>84522922Oh please, we all know that if the 2nd and 11th are revealed, they both are going to be women with female marine legions.Would it fit any of the current fluff we know about the 2? No, but when has that stopped GW from selling more over priced plastic?
>>84523037Do 9th edition armies look like this or are battle reports shifting my perception? Cause 90% of battle reports look like pure garbage.
>>84523088>Female primarchs>Female legionsNo. Just no. Stop anon. You can ruin two legions like that.
>>84523075>Why is their armour so different?Phobos are a stealth throwback to the C100 pre-RT marines. Look at their siloutte and guns and add mk7 and a few decades.
>>84523075>>Why aren't they carrying actual boltguns? Why do their bolt carbines have 5 scopes?The bolt "carbines" are what the old bolters are, they got renamed because the bolt rifle is a thing.
>>84523087NL: Who are you??Reiver: I'm you but better.
>>84523075I forgot about the legion recon squads. Makes sense>bring back primarch>he has primaris>"omg it's like the legion unit!!!"I prefer my scouts to do recon & snipe, but I also think for chapter and player freedom recon marines can exist. I also really like these shotguns.>why is the armor differentmarketing, new demographic; cool new multirole armor (shit idea for SMs)>why no boltgunI do think thy can work, tho they have 1 too many scope, a sight and an auspex/cogitator sight as a combo is fine, but it should be an option that costs points, maybe even number restricted.>why 3 different units and not optionsI hate them for doing that.Okay, sell a base kit with little option, but then also sell upgrade kits; don't sell 3 boxes for what could be a single unit. I hate marketing
>>84523071Take away half the guns I raise you the Serfsuit, a menial labor powerloader operated by the peasants of a knight house to perform repairs and load ammunition for the bigger knights of their masters. they don't take up a force org slot and can restore the wounds of nearby knights. If GW wants imperial knights to be space bretonnia they're gonna need some space serfs
New thread is a little bit early because I wanted to fix the broken mega URL that the previous OP sabotaged.>>84523127>>84523127>>84523127
>>84523065I'm buying the starter box why wouldn't I be able to post it? I can show you some of my old models too but I don't see what bearing on me liking the new beakies would it have.
>>845230929th tends to have skew armies, that lean heavily into one single broken mechanic or stat line.Most people who play on youtube are fags that don't want to be called losers, so that's the kind of army they play. Most regular people though play what they like.
>>84522967>Not within the same kit.Primaris armour has slight differences, even in a single kit.
>>84523107Aye, that's the point, but I am right.Like GW has already teased 11th, like it is very much implied in the newest custodes codex that the 11th is imprisoned on Terra by the custodes for whatever reason.Just give it 6 more years, so we'll probably see the in 12th edition.
>>84523150Why don't marines have rounded assplates? Must be impossible to sit down with that 90 degree piece of ceramite hanging off your ass like that
>>84522856I'm gonna buy them anyway, swap their heads and packpacks with Mk VII (which is totally canon) - and nobody will stop me.
>>84520918For me it's Aquila.
>>84522835>Honestly d3/d6 damage should be scrapped entirely across all weapons and changed to the average output.I think it's an attempt to keep some of the "luck" aspect of the Glancing / Penetrating Hit system that vehicles used to have, which represents the difference between the impact of a hit on a more up-armored part of the vehicle vs. hitting a weak point, especially since they got rid of armor.I think it works well for its current system as it is than just a flat damage, as it allows that granularity that makes vehicles play a little bit differently than other models.Removing templates and facings was a complete mistake. It needed to be revised for clarity, but they threw baby out with the bathwater and removed the tactical element to vehicle combat that made them play different.
>>84523109>we could've got lithe power armor that was a sci-fi rendition of the frills of a Landschnekt's breeches above the thin, fluted greaves of Maximillian plate armor>all while functioning as both a throwback to and a modern tasteful re-imaging of older models>instead we got tacticool marines wearing cargo shorts and reeboksGW truly can't design worth a damn.
>>84523088Fuck you and fuck off with your shitty low-tier bait opinions
>>84522637The thing about nu csm is that their overall design style is now so different from their old stuff that you can tell at a glance whats new and whats not just by the differences in design. a new csm has as much in common with an old one as a primaris does with a tactical
>>84523050it literally would have just worked as a GSC unit. throw some shit out there say it was what they used in the mines and that they weaponized it boom, its done. its fucking baffling that they gave space marines a mech suit like the dreadnight baby carrier
>>84523309Idk why GW can’t design a unit that doesn’t lean towards Black Legion in its elements, it’s getting ridiculous
>>84523336>new csm marines drop>dont have 4 god aligned heads like old kit>dont have banner bearer with 4 god aligned banners + undivided>literally 2 backpack banner optionsif they want to fuck me in the ass so badly they could at least hurry the fuck up with EC and WE's
>>84523109The legs look more like Artificer Armour 4.
>>84523355Checked, and agreed. Instead of god-aligned heads we got fucking Patrick Bateman and the rest of those terrible bare heads
>>84523402not gonna lie despite being called chaos undivided chaos seems pretty divided right now
>>84523261>I think it's an attempt to keep some of the "luck" aspect of the Glancing / Penetrating Hit system that vehicles used to haveIt could be implemented better, a lot of the time it's too random and leads to situations where rolling poorly can lead to someone having paid a significant chunk of points just to do 1-3 damage every shot. For instance having a squad of devestators with lascannons that do 4 damage if they remained stationary but d3+1 if they moved would work better since it gives more of a reason for the hit to glance.> it allows that granularity that makes vehicles play a little bit differently than other modelsit's randomness for the sake of randomness. Also it doesn't make vehicles function any differently since it's not as if a lascannon fires any differently mounted on a vehicle than it does carried by a space marine. No one likes having a weapon costed for high damage output whiffing and doing 1 damage, nor does it make sense for powerful energy weapons to only glance if they apparently hit on target. The only difference is in infantry having a -1 to hit so has nothing to do with the damage output, it could be flat 4 and it would feel just the same.
>>84520901Last store league wore me out. They were expecting two games a week at a store that has barely any parking, when the games were taking 3 hours+.
>>84521034To me, that jackhammer lance is what Knights are about thanks to that old Titan Legions models. Disappointing the regular knights don't get it.
>>84523088The 2nd Primarch is explicitly stated to be male in Fulgrim the Palatine Phoenix
>>84523984But what about when they're not in Fulgrim?
>>84524032It's mostly guesswork. You can mostly gather that one of them got eliminated due to a defect so bad it made Sanguinius fear what would happen to his legion and the other was extremely corrupted (most likely by chaos) and did something that would make even some of the traitor legions we know blush
>>84520664My style is…berserkers and transports. I don’t think they’ll pull those.
>>84521445It does. I got meme’s into watching it too. About the third or fourth pratfall from the slapstick Merlin I turned it off
this is sorta late but can some one explain to me what going on with the squats?I'm seeing mix feeling about them from all around. Do people not like squats now?like I collect Kharadon Overlords in AOS and some dude got butthurt about me posting that I'm going to be bringing my sky dorf and convert them into a squat army
I can't choose an army. Everyone says go with what looks cool but the problem is I think most armies look great, and even the ones that I'm not in love with are still cool imo.So any recommendations for an army that's melee focused, that's not nids or custodes?
