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Here is a thread to discuss trading card games other than the big three.
>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>The other DBZ game
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

>Wixoss Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH

>Force of Will Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF

>Dragonball GT Shadow Dragon saga rulebook
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp

>Gate Ruler Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB

>Build Divide Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz

>Flesh and Blood Pastebin
https://ghostbin.com/fSqp4/raw

>Ashes Reborn Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S

Play with /acg/ through voice chat! No text chat so coordinate in thread to get some games in.
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP

>Last Thread
>>84471464

>Thread Question:
Who got you into acgs or tcgs in general?
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>>84511021
The Egyptian pharaoh Atem.
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>>84511161
Was he… any good at games?
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>>84511258
He only ever lost twice.
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>>84511021
Usually if the game has an accompanying anime. YGO as a kid, I even watched Duel Masters even though the dub sucked and sadly there's no sub version available, I got into Vanguard through its first few seasons, Wixoss after watching the first couple seasons, recently Build Divide. I'll try out Battle Spirits one of these days.
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>>84511021
I was 11 years old, Cold Snap had just come out, and there was a draft tournament being held at my summer camp. I pulled a Dark Depths in my very first booster pack and of course I took it because holy shit, a 20/20 indestructible. And thus was I ruined for life.
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>>84511474
funny, the Marit card from ice age was one of the first big things I ever pulled.
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>>84510644
Sort of? If anything they're closer to creatures in MTG and I imagine there being more Invocations going forward, especially if we're going to the Savage Lands next. Illusionist Allies are arguably worse than Spectra because attacking it doesn't close the combat chain so Go Again works but these 'auras' can also attack without any extra hoops so I guess it's a fair trade. Even if there isn't anything that gives Ally attacks Go Again you have enough ways to gain action points/GA that Optimai is a great way to close your chain. I imagine Dromai will want Energy Potions and Talisman of Recompense
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>>84511392
I guess YGO started the TCG anime trend but it's absolutely genius. Easily the most effective way to market a card game especially when you have the right people behind it. Most of these games became successful because of their anime tie-in.
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>>84511898
reposting because why not
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>>84512800
>both have the same code
Double sided maindeck cards, huh? I guess they look cool but I'm not a fan.
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>>84511021
>TQ
My initial exposures to tcgs were at flea markets as a teen in the 90s. I was buying soon-to-be dead ccgs based solely on packaging art and collected a lot of stuff I never learned how to play but I did eventually get deep into playing L5R off of finding a playgroup for it.
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Osaka regionals today. Let's see what decks will top.
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>>84513074
Osaka my balls
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>>84513074
There's also the 2nd Wixoss Diva Grand Prix going on in Nagoya today as well. Guess it's a good weekend for card games.
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>>84513098
Who's Steve Jobs?
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>>84511021
>TQ
Yugioh, not magic that my nerd older cousin played that actually repeled me big time.
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>>84513074
>>84513148
Good shit.
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>>84513074
That's. Ahealthy amount of attendees. I hope BD keeps growing and even makes it to the west. It's an amazing game.
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>>84513246
you know US players especially will endlessly complain about Busters
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Found some good stuff in a small lot. Don’t know why I included Goku’s Touch with the good cards but I did. Destiny is a weirdly expensive card.
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>>84510698
Boltchads
We're gonna make it
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>>84513278
They just don't believe hard enough
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>>84513278
Do you think if Busters didn't exist, BD would have a smaller Life Zone? How much smaller do you think it would be? 8? 6?
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>>84514082
Probably. Or they could just go 5 like DM and put summoning sickness back in.
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>>84513293
Is it? Never thought much on it but I can see why.
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>>84513293
>Destiny is a weirdly expensive card.
Android Saga
Also limited

You could probably get the GT reprint dirt cheap.
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>>84513246
>Amazing Game
How is a DM clone + Instants, an amazing game.
I'm sorry man, the game isn't that great
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>>84514355
It isn’t exactly red Rush staple cost or anything, but the Android Saga copy isn’t bulk priced, at least that I’ve been able to find. It got a GT reprint but with so many formats ignoring GT cards I understand why it’s the rarer version.
>>84514544
>You could probably get the GT reprint dirt cheap.
Absolutely true.
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>>84513074
>"Good morning everyone, Sieg Heil! Alright, great job, I'll make sure we edit out everyone's faces!"
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>>84514082
8 sounds better to me but with the ability block and react, 6 could be enough. Like the other anon said remove summoning sickness if you want to slow it down but most games seem to like 5-7 shields either way.
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fab looked pretty alive at NJ, surprised how dead /acg/ is.
I honestly think grand archive is a rug pull.
Sorcery is literally alpha mtg lite capitalizing on kickstarter fame.
How the hell you have a TCG/CCG and dead socials?
Just having the website is fucking retarded keep your twitter active as well.
Talking to you too rudy, you fucking dumbass you could have been a lot bigger than you are now.
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>>84514881
throw a taco at him
/acg/ is dead right now because a lot of anons are *at* NJ right now, our tendrils go all the way to the top
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbFQ1T-Fd3c
Q&A with james white
have not watched yet
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>>84515008
It felt weird that the dude from Instant speed podcast had to "translate" every question to him. Like, what gives?
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>>84515054
I've seen them do that at events where the mics and speakers are set up such that parts of the crowd can't really hear the initial question.
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>>84515054
The speakers were essentially pointed away from both of them at the crowd, in a room with a lot of ambient noise. Being there, it seemed like they were relying on the natural acoustics of the person's voice asking the question to hear. Likely that flake just had better hearing than James did. I thought that the few that he had to translate did not have their original intent conveyed very well.
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>>84515088
>>84515176
Ah, that makes a lot more sense now. Yeah, some of the questions he related back to James were kind of skewed.
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>>84511021
Sorcery chads unite
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Just went to my local lgs store with the lads 3-0ed the armory with chane and won a cold foil kassai fgm
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>>84513074
>>84514651
wtf build dividers explain yourself
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>>84515771
Nice, post the Kassai? Noticed some CFs are kinda shit while others are quite good, how’s hers?
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>>84516562
I think she looks pretty great In CF hard to capture in a photo though
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>>84516653
Yeah can’t really see, helps to shine it off a light in a darker room sometimes. Still tho grats
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>>84514881
>Sorcery is literally alpha mtg lite capitalizing on kickstarter fame
not to defend sorcery, but that is a hell of a criticism for a FAB player to level at anybody. LSS tried to engineer literally that exact same shit right from the jump.
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>>84516711
Only the border on Kassi is CF.
All the CF heroes from before like the Farewell to Wrathe draft prizes only have CF on the border.
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>>84514881
I think any meta level discussion of fab is too dense for 4chan, so there's not really a lot that can be productively discussed a lot of the time. I think that's why fabg failed.
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>>84517014
Ohhh really? Wonder why they decided to do that, kinda shit desu
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>>84517021
PUNISHED JAMES
A MAN DENIED HIS GENERAL
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>>84514881
>I honestly think grand archive is a rug pull

Grand Archive by "Weebs Of the Shore".
Yeah... not gonna put to much trust on it
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Grand Archive looks great but yeah I don't think they know what they're doing with it.
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>>84517131
>Weebs Of the Shore
Everything else about it looks alright except for that. Like I get the joke but seeing that on the cards seriously makes me not want to play it.
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>>84517021
FaB players tend to keep their 'spicy' tech secret and meaningfull discussions are confined to their respective testing-/playgroups.
Also about half the community is bad enough at the game to call all fabled cards 'unnecessary' for gameplay. (This might actually be poorfag cope from people too cucked to call out LSS for their bullshit now that I think about it)
I'd cite the two fab reddits as negative examples but they are so quintessentially 'reddit' that I'm sure most of the retardation can be attributed to that.
FaB needs to be a lot more casual and about 10x bigger for fabg to be a thing.
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>>84515771
>tfw no armory within an hour from me
Some people have all the luck
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>>84517014
This is exactly why i sold my cf dorinthea and got the RF version of her.
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Center breakdown for the GP.
As for the top 4:
>1st: Ex center, Deus and Machina assists
>2nd: Aya, Tamago, Machina
>3rd: Deus, Machina, Madoka
>4th: Ex, Deus, Machina
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>>84518365
so, pretty much the usual suspects
wish they'd show the top 16 at least
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One of you open up the Build Divide anime thread. ACG BORING asf today
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redpill me on build divide. i watched half a how to play video on it and it looks kinda like digimon with a stack
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>>84518320
>Heart is only played in Iyslander
>Eye is only played in Kano, only just now did Starvo pick it up
>Prism dropped Library after Everfest because all the new auras are blue
>No Elemental hero runs Korshem
>Few Starvos and Oldhim ran Grandeur, again dropped for Eye
I still stand by the fact that unless you are a Pro Tour level player you do not need Fabled cards, and yes I own a CF and RF Library. (One to play, one for the binder.) yeah the pull rates are shit but they’re not straightforward, OP cards but things that MAY help you eek out a percentage point or two in a high-level environment.
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>>84518956
I use eye in brute for draw discards/getting to BRB sooner.
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>>84518983
Makes sense since a lot of Brute cards also don’t block so your best defense is offense.
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>>84519005
Sure, but it's more that Brute is pretty bad and whiffing discards can lose you the game.
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>>84519024
Yeah I saw the Levia match, I felt bad for the leprechaun.
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>>84511021
Probably an ad in wizard I guess, my first purchase was a an mtg 4th ed starter deck at the comic shop.
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Day 2 metagame shares. Viserai player said his goal is to be the best Viserai player at the Pro Tour so life goals already achieved lmao

Really high conversion rate for Boltyn - was listed in "other" in the shares for yesterday so he must have something like an 80+% conversion rate.
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>>84518365
A little surprised to see Aya up there, but I’m liking the spread of participants.

Also curious if the Hirana decks are all NL or if there are some dream teams happening.
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>>84519212
>katsu wiped out
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Interesting that the two highest ranking non-starvos are dedicated players of their respective classes. I'm sure it means nothing and following the hivemind is the best way to go. Yeah.
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>>84519981
I get what you’re saying but I don’t like Kano or Lexi, wake me when mommy Azula drops.
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>>84518956
I was talking about the community largely calling ALL fableds 'unnecessary' or niche which is absolute BS. That's like saying ALL Ms are unnecessary or niche.

Depending on the meta eye and library are simply best in slot for some decks. And esp. eye is just going to get better with the direction the game seems to be going (setup/burst and combo).
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>>84518911
it's less "digimon with the stack" and more "duel masters but starts on round 3". everyone has 2 mana and first player can attack on first turn, so the pressure is on as soon as the game starts. in this way it's somewhat similar to even Ashes, which starts both players with their full mana pool. the game is mostly full of old ideas but used in a new way, which sometimes forces you to re-think those old ideas from a new angle. Like the 2 starting mana and the first-turn attack mean that going second, you want to have a hand with at least some interaction, and that in turn means packing interaction into your deck, so goldfishing decks are discouraged with just the game's mechanics from before the game even starts. or buster triggers, them being forced and very random means that each and every point of damage can be your last, even if the odds of all your life being busters are very low; this puts heavy emphasis on the balance of offence and defense.
plus the anime exists, and unlike other cardgame animes they actually play by the rules and don't invent them for plot convenience.
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Kind of sad Pheano cut his hair
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Today's Build Divide reveals are a Super Rare, notably the 18th Ace, Lepardas and a Normal rare, notably his territory.

Black Panther of Fortitude, Lepardas
<Title: Fierce Leader>
[Berserk]
<Territory: Fierce Leader> [AUTO] When this unit attacks and wins a battle, target up to 1 unit card in your Energy Zone without the (Aberration) attribute, with a total cost of 4 or less, and with [Berserk] and place it onto the field.
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Arena of Rivals
<Title: Fierce Leader>
[CONT] During your turn all of your units with [Berserk] get Power +2000 and your opponent blocks those units as much as possible.
[AUTO] At the beginning of your Attack Phase, you may stand all of your opponent's units.
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>>84513293
>the old score dbz game gets posted about here but dbs doesn't seem to have a place in any of the generals despite being pretty popular
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New promo

Those Who Bet On Hope
Target up to 1 unit each with a total cost of 1 to 5 and return the target(s) to the hand. If you targeted 5 cards, instead of returning them to hand, place them on the bottom of their owner's deck in any order you wish and remove this card.
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>>84520658
>>84520665
Kitties!
>>84520677
Cute!
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Clash came in so here's the barebones skeleton I have assembled.
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yo where can I buy weiss hololive?
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>>84520824
oh it's on tcgplayer
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>>84520824
oh and there are no english vtubers in it :(
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>>84520675
DBS (the card game) isn't really that popular.
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>>84520675
There's some faggot (possibly (You)) who keeps posting how unfair it is that ScoreZ gets posted and DBS doesn't, but he never actually posts about DBS either.
DBS is welcome here, so put up or shut up. You're not owed responses.
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>>84520898
Korone is the only girl who matters. Fuck english vtubers.
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>>84520898
>oh and there are no english vtubers in it
That actually makes the set better.
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>>84520898
Promos in decks.
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what did she mean by this?
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>>84521031
Anal Vore
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>>84520675
>despite being pretty popular
Over 250 threads when it’s brought up it’s primarily about how’d the core is good but creep killed it. No one here has ever really brought up anything related to the gameplay or strategy. Then again L5R isn’t regularly talked about either so some games just don’t have anything said about them.
>in any of the generals
What… other general would it be talked about in?
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And this came in the mail today. Thanks again, Anon!
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>>84520898
Not playing, but grabbed some EN and ID cards. Also just imported the event promos for them and JP because they have better art than the stock shit anyway.
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>>84520929
>>84520944
>>84521051
>killed
It's got an active scene and several major regionals this period alone. In my area it's as popular as Digimon averaging 20+ players a week for locals. I'm not whoever you're talking about, I typically do not post on this board. I'm just surprised to see a Digimon general but not a dragon ball super one.
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>>84521165
Yeah DBS has never been especially popular in this general at least. None of my lgs host it but that doesn’t mean much since I had to dig through stores to find a scene for the game I play.
>I’m surprised to see a Digimon general
Shit’s pretty popular, so I’m surprised to hear your Super scene is bigger than your Digimon one. You play either, or did you ever play the old Z game?
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Aether Wildfire was a mistake
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Well, I was browsing a FGS's webpage and I saw Ashes very heavily discounted at only 15 bucks.

This is the original white box version of Ashes, which explains the low price.

They also have two expansions, Song and Lions, which are heavily discounted as well. Maybe I should have ordered them, but I didn't want to commit too much without having tried the game first.

What can I expect /acg/ ?

I also got Dark Tales. Yes I know, but I kinda like the art style.
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>>84521031
I don't know what game that is and I'm too scared to ask.
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>>84521572
Just make it a legendary.
And bring more AB than just your bulls eye bracers.
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>>84521572
Fuck you, your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
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>>84521635
>t. Distracted by Yuki’s shoulders and almost missed lethal
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>>84521587
It's Weiss Schwarz
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>>84515771
>still buttmad I misplayed and went 1-2 at Wixoss last week
Nice job man.
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>>84520944
Dude stfu and forget about it already. Motherfucker bringing up that topic again
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>>84521575
>Song and Lions, which are heavily discounted as well.
Shit how much?
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>>84520781
>active player
Why didn’t I think of that
Still jealous at how good GR discard is. Good stuff.
>Frieza
A real shame the game never gave a lot of their characters a level 4. At least the villain invasion subset did.
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>>84521575
Yeah, that's no issue. You'll just want to try and track down a copy of the upgrade pack at some point before you interact with a local community. Nothing wrong with the original game though, obviously that's what established its cult status in the first place.
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>>84521076
Awesome, that was fast. Happy to share, as always!
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>>84521923
I'm actually dogshit at Kano but thanks for the vote of confidence.
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>>84521968
7.50€ each.

>>84522103
Good to know, I also really liked the card design. I'm a sucker for good looking cards.

As far as I know, I'm the whole local community.
I need to find people to play with.
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Feeling really bearish about the Draconic heroes caring about Reds right about now. Iyslander also looks really fucking strong into all these heroes as well
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>>84522056
Frieza did get a level 4, it just wasn't very good.
And is GR generic removal?
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>>84522505
>GR
Fuck, meant GT.
>it just wasn't very good.
A shame in itself, but I meant in the GT sets. Would have been cool if they made one with updated levels, number of power stages, and all that.
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>>84513148
sauce for this image? I member this artist from forever ago
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Suck my 10in cock dicklet
Anyway, top 8 looks pretty good
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>>84523818
>Alexander Vore
Pretty cool name
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>>84523818
I'm rooting for the Kano's but at the same time I want a Starvo to win so he can get the fuck out of the game
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>>84521587
Do either HoloEN or HoloID have WS cards yet?
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>>84524136
A second set in Japanese is coming out this summer. But the new English one is a translation of the first JP set
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>>84523818
>Might get subjected to even more Starvo meta because of Kano
Agent of Chaos.... I kneel....
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>>84519981
>Vore
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>>84521251
>Shit’s pretty popular, so I’m surprised to hear your Super scene is bigger than your Digimon one. You play either, or did you ever play the old Z game?
Super isn't bigger than digimon here but it's pretty close in number of players. Super seems to be a very regional games, in some states its hot, in others its completely dead. I have played both at some point, didn't care for digimon mechanics much. Never played the old score z game but I had cards
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I pulled it! I pulled it! I fucking pulled it bros
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>>84524729
>"Worth it."
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Vividz hand-on experience started
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>>84525592
>didn't care for digimon mechanics much
I liked it enough as a casual game. Nothing I’d want to go hard on though.
>Never played the old score z game but I had cards
It’s a lot of fun. Appropriately Dragonball in basically every way from the big numbers to the drag out fights of casual to the blitzy dominations and counter plays of competitive. Janky in the way those 90s and 00s games were too.
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>>84526896
How does it play? Something about 3 missions starting in play and trying to meet conditions to clear them?
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>>84526539
Congrats my guy
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Big Wixoss night at my LGS. Was a good time, even if I got stomped. Hope you all had good games this weekend.
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>>84526896
Is this game good?
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>>84518334
I feel you, bro. I just moved to Japan. No armory in this whole damn country...
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>>84527014
yeah some thing like that.
Here some beta translated card to give you some gist of how it work

http://freedomduo-hobby.blog.jp/archives/14455020.html
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>>84523818
This is super cool. Those Kano matches are hype. Seeing him count to 40 is fucking fun. Would have liked to see Yuki Lee break into top 8 with Lexi though.
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>FaB Pro Tour
I've watched a few matches and am I crazy or is twitch chat fucking retarded? Someone makes a single strong play and they start kvetching about how that hero is broken and bullshit and unfun-needsban. Do they all play Azalea or something?
Really rooting for Kano to win. I don't think he's busted yet, he's just doing his job as the sideboard police. Absolutely Based. I still have a bad feeling Aether Wildfire will become a problem card at some point. Every new, good wizard card printed will make Wildfire turns better and more consistent.
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>>84522472
The tech does exist, but it's thin on the ground. It could be that Uprising brings more.
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>>84526539
Fuck yeah man
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>>84526539
Fucking shit quality camera
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>>84511021
Are there any card games out there that function like a game of Civ?
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>>84528218
What do you mean
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>>84528274
As in a card game where you play as a civilization and there's a rudimentary tech tree required to put down certain units, and that you're working towards some form of victory which can include directly crippling your enemy
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>>84528316
Those are typically too complex and involve too much tracking to fit the standard for a tcg
You should check out race for the galaxy but anything more complex is gonna be a board game
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>>84528409
Thanks anon, that was exactly what I was looking for
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>>84527607
>Seeing him count to 40 is fucking fun
This but unironically. Kano is interactive as long as you respect him. This meta is too greedy and it's being punished for it.
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>>84528644
I really wasn't being ironic. It's pretty cool how well he's doing and seeing him at 4 and killing someone at 26 because they decided to be greedy is so fucking cool
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holy shit just pulled this cold foil
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>>84527701
>spoiler
I feel the same way about Scabskins. Every brute card has to be balanced around the fact that a Brute can potentially have 3ap for nothing.
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where did the "every FaB card is just Lightning Bolt" meme start? and why do some still believe it to be funny or interesting?
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>>84529915
just one memer who found a trigger. itll stop if you ignore.
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>>84530043
i've been ignoring many things for a long time and so far none of them have stopped, including the one i commented on.
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>>84530079
if no one acknowledged them they would, yet every thread without fail someone takes the bait.
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>>84529915
it stuck because there's a logic to it
if they said every card is just a different flavor of dark magician instead you wouldn't always have the same knee jerk reaction to it, because there's no logic to it
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Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Normal rare from set 5.

Tribute To The Dead
Your opponent discards 1 card from their hand. You may put the foremost card of your Life Zone into the Cemetery. If you put, place the foremost card of your opponent’s Life Zone into the Cemetery.
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>>84529915
Today I will remind them
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>>84529915
>>84530475
basically this. it's one of those "grain of truth" things. of course FaB is not actually just bolts, but the core structure of the game is built around cards that functionally behave like direct damage spells and counter spells, instead of being based around permanents.
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>>84530769
*blocks ur path*
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>>84530737
The "that's it, that's the post." meme pisses me off every time I see it
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>>84531218
Dash and Prism already build boards.
There are characters who can play permanents but the vast majority of characters don't.
It's not a flaw with FAB its just the nature of its gameplay versus Magic.
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>Fab tournaments will now be dominated by Grandpas
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>>84531361
finally, now that FaB has an loli it's certified /acg/ material
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>>84531381
This has existed for a while, but it's not an official card. It's essentially a custom card made by the Alan Hale, one of the LSS devs, for his daughter. Akin to Splendid Gensis and Fraternal Exaltation in MtG.
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>>84522056
>Why didn’t I think of that
That was from the Panini Broly set
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>>84532304
man ggg and churin are going to be such massive boons for my bang deck
now i'll actually get to use parajulis in the first couple turns
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>>84532679
Can’t wait for those either. Demeter will probably help too.
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>>84522963
>he doesn't have 4chanx
oh no no no no
the filename is a pixiv image number, you should be able to figure it out from there
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Can I get a qrd on Gate Ruler?
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I tried FaB for the first time today. It's ok. I will keep playing Netrunner and Exceed with nobody, because I can't find anyone in-person to play with.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>84524729
>>84524729
Chane taking revenge for Vegas and everyone everywhere cheers for the greesy goth taking one big leap forward to exiting the game.

And Bravo still LLs thanks to the Calling.
Well that and all the Pro Tours he won and will continue to win.
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>>84535487

>inb4 people think starvo is gone effective immediately
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>>84535701
>People acting like this isn't the healthiest this games meta has ever been, and probably will be for the rest of the year.
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Mail came yesterday and I still haven't opened it. What am I looking for? I have nothing from the set so I'll be happy with anything really.
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>>84535751

best pull is probably a spring tunic or arknight shard. There's a bunch of good M equipment though like courage of bladehold, metacarpus nodes, gamblers gloves
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>>84529915
Very early on it was a shitty take unironically given (not on /acg/ as far as I recall) by MtG grogs for why FaB is shit. Other common ones were seething about the reversed power curve and needing to block from hand. Bassically your classic "it's different and that means it's BAD REEEEEE"
There's a kernal of truth to it though, which makes it memorable. So _I_ spammed it a little then some assblasted anon started seething for real, lel.
Another is "no strategy or card economy" which people actually believe because it's a common new player mistake to play out each hand in isolation. Long term resource management is harder to spot because it's about equipment and deck contents, not a dwindling hand of 7 and a bunch of summons.
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>>84531277
>It's not... Magic
That is a flaw, p*dochud!
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>>84531361
5 int
Average starting health around 30
In blitz

Busted hero
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>>84536688
it's not a real card
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>>84531361
There's a kitty.
Is this card obtainable?
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>>84536688
Bro, you realize she modifies ALL attacks, right?
The mechaloli doesn't fuck around.
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>>84536812
Its if it is 6 or greater they get converted to 5.
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>>84537107
Yes
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>>84535343
I’ve had that feeling about some games. It’s good to try new things. Hope you were smarter than I usually am and didn’t spend too much to try a game.
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Found a listing for a ScoreZ Red Left Bolt on ebay. No one else noticed it so now I just gotta wait for it to arrive internationally to see if it’s a real card or piece of packing cardboard with Rud Lft Baalt sharpied onto it.
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>>84537638
Fucking kek
Is that the last copy you need?
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Tell me /acg/, how strict are you about the rules in a casual tournament? Would you let someone replay/rewind something even if it wasn't to your benefit?
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>>84538013
There is no such thing as a "casual" tournament. No replays / rewinds. You can always practice and play pick up games, there you can rewind all you want.
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>>84538013
Casual like no stakes local tournies? Yeah, fuck it. As long as they haven’t been a dick the entire game I’m there to have a good time. My Wixoss locals are really chill, and good about introducing new players without rulessharking or any other shit moves. If I wanted to WIN I’d grind out with No Limit and already have a DXM proxy up and running. I want to hang out, play games, and get new players into the game.

In a larger event, as long as they haven’t shifted phases substantively, why not. Basically the “I haven’t taken my hand off the piece” rule. But I don’t correct mistakes there either.
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>>84538013
Had a lot of that going on yesterday at locals. Within reason, it's no problem - summoning a SIGNI in a different zone as long as no others were placed, or going back to draw/charge 1 from a missed trigger as long as nothing else was taken from the deck since then. Stuff easily fixable within one movement of a card. Though, I did have an opponent go over limit on accident and we had to redo a couple things, but he was way behind anyways so I let it slide.
Something like a Ceremony though? Not a chance, for both my opponent and myself.
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>>84536750
It was from an artist to his daughter probably wont get another printing like the marry me mtg cards
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>>84538181
Ah, bummer. Thank you.
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>>84538175
>Something like a Ceremony though? Not a chance, for both my opponent and myself.
Fucking this. I verbally walk through “Up Draw Ener” out loud to keep me playing right and to keep my opponent from misunderstanding and causing a scene.
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>>84537878
Yeah. It’s nice to think that I’m a third of a way to a real Rush deck (the easiest third but still) if Score players ever fall into my living room and threaten me to play Expanded, but my casual deck being as consistent as possible so it isn’t a boring Punch Punch Punch pass deck among the discard and ally goofiness is the real goal I’ve accomplished.

I’ve got some time to mull it over but I think I just take my Knee Bash copies out for this and the random Face Slap I pulled a billion years ago.
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>84538098
You sound like a Big 3 player, you need to go back and you don't get a real (You).
>>84538175
>>84538261
>Something like a Ceremony though? Not a chance, for both my opponent and myself.
This, be serious for serious tournaments. If winning weekly promos matters so much that you need to be "that guy" are you really having fun at that point? You might as well get a second job instead and make far more money.
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>>84534818
BuddyFight creator made another fun but imbalanced game and *allegedly* didn't pay employees/printers and is in an assload of legal trouble for that and other things. Still not believing the 4th set is actually coming out in English until an anon posts a box opening.
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>>84535487
>>84535701
>>84535715
If Starvo is still in for the entire PQ season then Chane and Prism are in massive danger of LL with 1200 points on the line in the next month or so. I imagine an announcement goes out in 24h banning him for the second week of PQ. Also surprised a good Dash build not been found yet.
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>>84538175
>always thought eldora's design was retarded
>watched wixoss infected and spread over the last week
>eldora ended up being my favorite character in spread
completely turned me around on her design, looking forward to making a jank life cloth manipulation deck with her
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UUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOHH
( T o T )
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>>84538532
>even the “seriously” drawn one has the X for the belly button
I like that.
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>>84538442
Dumb bitch, where are her shoes
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>>84538478
Eldora is the cutest and has the best voice
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>>84538442
Iyslander is pretty fucking hot huh. White hair on brown skin is a good combo.
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>>84538981
welcome to the Amira waiting room
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Hope the few of you guys who went to or tuned into the FAB pro tour had a good time. Weekend went pretty well, got James White to sign a card, made some money, and watched a few friends do very well in the Pro Tour and the Calling.

Hype is real among competitors. Every night at the hotel you had like 40 people jamming games in the lobby. Including today. Overall really good weekend and feel a lot better about the future of the game because of it.

One cool thing I thought is that the artists at these events usually have to spend 10k or so out of their own pocket to set up a booth. LSS (not CFB) paid for the artists flight and lodging out of their own pocket and gave them each 300-400 of their own playmat to sell for free. They also paid for the entire players banquet out of their own pocket as well.
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>>8453859
I'm actually sad when I find art that doesn't have the X because there is so little of her to begin with.
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>>84539214
Based LSS.
CFB a shit.
Glad to hear the event went well and you had a great time, was still rooting for The Big O despite the consequences reading stuff like this encourages me to make the drive out to one when I get the chance.
but given how CFB hates my area our Calling will probably be Sealed/Limited if we get one at all
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>>84539210
Please stop reminding me. My hopes were shattered when Dromai entered the arena
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>>84538981
Sorry bro, she's technically in blackface there.
She's using an enchanted mask Shiyana gave her to blend in as a native of Volcor.
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>>84539214
Holy based. It's one thing to have a great game, its another thing to have a company do the right moves you want to see like the transition to paper wrappers etc.
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>>84539214
>LSS (not CFB) paid for the artists flight and lodging out of their own pocket and gave them each 300-400 of their own playmat to sell for free. They also paid for the entire players banquet out of their own pocket as well.
Amazing what you can do as a private company. This is investing in their brand obviously, but what board of investors would ever okay something like that?
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>>84539210
>>84538442
I need to paint their skin white with my cum AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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May try to slot this into Tamago instead of Spinning Harmony, at least until the second LRIG card comes out. Outside a discard mirror she should be pretty obnoxious to remove in the late game and if you don’t draw/burst a freeze effect for Royal Blue she can just tear a hole open herself.
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>>84539748
good fish tum
Zeno Cluster is undervalued imo, it is going to put in WORK the rest of the year and beyond
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>>84538981
She isn’t dark skinned it’s just the lightening.
Isylander is white.
That other Illusionist girl though.
Valda was card art and became a hero so chances are good so will Illusionist girl.
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>>84539776
>Zeno Cluster is undervalued
Who the fuck are you playing with? I want to be matched up against them, goddamn.

I think it won’t be as much of an issue in this case. Definitely fucks this in the mid-game but after its use Tamago is still going to shred hands and have draw. I’m thinking more turn 5+ when you’re trying to keep Rose and debuff stacking off your shit.
>Zeno surprise kills her
But I get what you’re saying, and good point. Probably won’t test her as a 4-of that’s for sure.
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>>84539224
You’d think that would be a simple detail to make sure got right, but mistakes get through I guess.
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>>84538013
I mean that's really several different questions. I want the rules to be applied strictly and correctly regardless of level of competition. You don't help anyone if you're not getting card interactions and timing structures right. Being handwavey about that isn't "nice", it's just fucking with the game for everybody.

>Replay / Rewind
Regardless of level of competition, this is fine within the limited context that the player announces their intent very shortly after the misplay, and that the misplay hasn't revealed any hidden information that could benefit them or made the board state impossible to effectively rewind in some fashion. Basically, if it's them beginning to play a line and then realizing it makes no sense, fine. It dovetails with the above - you want the game to play out correctly, and winning a game because the other player had a momentary brain fart (or fat fingered something in online play) isn't something you want. The only exception is if it's a time issue and I think the other player might be trying to slow play to run the clock, in which case you can always ask a judge to observe. If you're on chess clocks, you always make people unwind mistakes on their own clock.

>Table talk
This is really the biggest area that differs for me depending on how casual the game is and relative skill levels of players. At the highest levels, you generally want keep it to banter and broad observations about cards in play. Some people are pretty good reads and you don't want to give away hidden information if you can help it. In a more casual tournament like at your local store, it's fine to talk more game. Particularly if it's a lower-skill or newer player it can be good to flag unusual card interactions, because it will save you even having to get in to the messiness with rewinds sometimes. And just like with the above, some gaff hinging on a really niche timing interaction is a really unsatisfying way to win (or lose).
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Today’s Build Divide reveal is a Normal rare from set 5.

Sacred Golem, Raybras
[Decoy]
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>>84539514
Honestly, if you just did it and billed it as a marketing expense, I doubt they'd even notice. 20 seats on a flight, 3 nights a person, and probably $1200 cost in playmats per artist isn't really that much if you were someone like Hasbro or Konami.
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>>84543313
Cute!
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>>84543323
A shame she’s not that good. Or at least she doesn’t look it. In order for her to really matter she has to start the turn with something like Buffalo in play as well.

Will be a great foil to have tho.
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>>84542964
It's not, but typically in a big corporation anybody with access to that kind of walking around money is at too high a level to give a fuck about artists. The people in charge of managing individual games are as much under the whip as their minions.
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>>84521575
good stuff. god knows I don't need more ashes cards but that kind of thing always helps bring in some new players. I think other anon mentioned but you'll probably want to get the upgrade kit so you're playing 1.5. otherwise you're just going to have to learn the game over again at some point.

>What can I expect /acg/ ?
a game you'll either fall absolutely in love with or completely hate. there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

>>84522412
>I'm the whole local community.
pretty often the case with any of the smalltime games on here. if you connect with the discord (boo. hiss. (but no, actually do do that)) they've got regional channels that help players connect with their local if one exists. or form one, in our case. plus a lot of people play online through there should you get comfortable with kitchen table and want to jump in the deep end.
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>>84541284
Thanks for this post anon. Well spoken and thought out. It seems like almost everyone here has a good grasp on sportsmanship and integrity as well.
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>>84539805
She IS dark skinned though. I don't see the lightning.
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I may have impulse sniped an auction full of shit I don’t really need. No idea what to do with it all, or at least the half I’ve doubled up on.
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>>84545998
Goddamn! Nice haul!
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>>84546737
It being a concentration of such rare shit is what made me go for it. Never really have to do any more looking to find a Bojack card unless I have a burning need for Z era Bojack damage/tech.

I saw a super old TS black discard deck for either preGT or Retro a long time ago, and I wonder if the idea would hold up in any real formats (I think Fusion banning the named cards screws me there) with other Masteries. Concealed or… maybe just Energetic up to Bojack’s biggest buff and try to nuke the opponent with too many attacks? For now maybe shove a few of these in my ally shell.
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>>84546912
>It being a concentration of such rare shit is what made me go for it.
No kidding, that was an excellent find.
>try to nuke the opponent with too many attacks?
It can be pretty damn effective, yeah. If they don't have a stop-all in hand they just get vaporized.
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>>84547358
Rereading levels 2 and 3 is probably prefer Concealed since I can just manually go to 2 for the buff and focus on damage. Having all those named attacks and team multi-beams masked and +3/+3 remove-from-game buffed along with the choice discard is probably better than trying to jump to a nonMPP level 3 and rely on that focused buff. Now I wish I did have someone to play expanded with.

Oh well, guess I convert the concealed shell to a stealth ally deck with these new toys. Focused masked +4/+3 fetch an ally on success is a laugh.
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>>84544166
>>84539419
>ignore the real answer
>continue to respond to retard
She's in disguise. Read the lore.
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Have any of you anons tried making your own cg?
I'm trying to make a system that has

Power-Physical damage

Magic-Magic Damage

Endurance- How often they can take actions, whether it's attacking, blocking, activating abilities etc. This is also their health points.
Less E = less actions, and when they become "Exhausted" they can die or KO from 1 damage.

Speed- Higher the number, the faster the character acts.
I'm planning on making it digitally since speed would affect how fast they can act again.
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>spoiler
Eww
But good luck, anon!
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>>84547821
She's not in disguise in her card art, she's at the bleak expanse in those pics.
There aren't even blacks in Volcor they're asian.
You have to make skin darker to contrast with the white of the snow.
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>>84547837
>digitally
Include a wear function so that a card used daily could become unplayable in a year or two.
Allow trading, but maintain the wear function across trades.
Laugh in hebrew.
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>>84547896
Fucking kek
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>>84547889
I hope they retcon Prism to be black next time. This game needs more diversity.
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>>84547896
I don't know what that's in reference to, but I just wanted to make a single player adventure with a card system.
No game has shook my heart like Rance X
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whoops I forgot to hit spoiler
oh well it'll give me dev time.
nice talking to you guys goodbye
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>>84547896
This, but also add sleeves you can buy with premium currency. The sleeves also wear, but at a slower rate and also stop wear on your cards when they're in use.
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>>84547927
It's in reference to nothing. A digital card game offers the unique opportunity to custom engineer hyperscarcity and perishability and prevent players and collectors from doing anything about it.
Playing sleeves were an innovation to prevent attrition of valuable cards, as the master of a digital economy you have the power to undo that. You can prevent the goyim from preventing attrition. Perishable digital goods are the next great innovation!
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>>84547920
We're getting a handful of Asians with Uprising and still haven't touched Misteria.
Do you just want more blacks?
Maybe in Metrix or Solana.

Prism is probably an illusion / fake person so I guess they could retcon her race if they want to.
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>>84547837
>Endurance
I think games where one player can do inherently more is pretty hard to balance, unless the monster cards themselves are granting the action points and you’re building. Still hard but removal is the great equalizer.
>Speed
As written, not a fan but it would be interesting in a board gamey digital game for sure. Something simpler for paper like highest speeds go/react first would work, especially fun for a simultaneous turn like Ashes.
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>>84548007
strong cards with few uses sounds great actually, but I'll be slaughtered for doing p2p bullshit with it.
I plan on playing it a lot, and that already pisses me off.
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>>84548032
Oh, it's Ashes anon, how do you like it?
I would try it myself but I have literally nobody and might get fired for having stomach problems so need a new job
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>>84547837
Yes I'm making my own
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>>84548021
Seriously? Don’t respond to that strawman bait.
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>>84548053
Actually an anon that has bought it but hasn’t gotten a group together to play it yet. But that style of turn would suit a speed idea like that. Once had an idea for a dungeon crawl tcg where character stats affected how they got hit by traps or spells it stuff, so you could design cards or effects that rewarded high or low stats regardless of their core use.
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>>84548056
Which one? Have you brought it up here before?
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>>84548032
Oh, Endurance would be on the card itself, like a typical farmer
1 Power, 0 Magic, 1 Endurance, and about 5 speed. (average).
Something like a 1/1 haste would have 8 speed since that's about as fast a typical human could go in a short distance.
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>>84547971
Sleeved or not, for every day you don't log in there is a 0.05% chance of a rat getting into your collection.
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>>84548137
>that's about as fast a typical human could go in a short distance
Not sure if ESL or inter-dimensional alien from a universe with different physics
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>>84548254
Well, a human is pretty slow compared to a cat, dog, bear etc so maybe it's not a fantastic idea to put the average human at the median of speed.
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>>84548298
>if not for the short distance, the human would be able to move faster
>implying
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>>84548369
Well, even if a cheetah were to run at a person, that cheetah still may eat a whole spear to the face.
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Mmm... delicious facespear
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>>84514881
At least sorcery is fun to play, even if it doesn't make it in the long run
I tried the precons in print & play with a friend, and it was pretty good
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>>84549174
It would be cool to see a kickstarted tcg really establish itself it make more than say one or two sets before sinking into the abyss.
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anyone know how shadowverse evolve is doing in japan?
wonder if it shares the same problems with the digital version
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when are we getting the hero that belongs to these feet?
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>>84549683
what are the problems with the digital version?
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>>84528218
Yes, imperium classics/legends
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>>84550361
I actually want Phantasmal to be the first Equipment Set and having all 4 not only unlocks a bonus but has the 'full art' of this person.
>Phantasmal Facade
>Phantasmal Frock
>Phantasmal Fingers
>At the start of your turn, if you control Phantasmal W, X, Y, and Z, create a Spectral Shield token
>in b4 that's too OP when they give Illusionist Mauvrion Skies for Spectral Shields
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Behold, the Skirmish Season 5 meta.
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>>84545998

Did that haul set you back real bad? I've never seen so much shiny Score Z stuff in one place.
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>>84550973
Blitz is gay and doesn't matter.
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>>84551041
You're gay, and you don't matter.
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>>84539214
The line for James White signatures got cut off right before me, and I will be eternally butthurt about it.
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>>84539214
Wow buddy, looks like you've got a damaged card there. I'll take it off your hands for 15% NM market value. My loss is your gain!
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>>84539214
I feel like LSS did everything right for the event and CFB did everything wrong, as usual. The on demand events were basically shut down on saturday and all the side event brackets ran late. The packages ended up feeling like a huge rip-off with the way the side event schedule shook out.
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>>84551041
>>84551089
you are both correct
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>>84551028
Nothing that hurt me too bad. As much as I didn’t need a chunk of them, it was probably a better price than getting it all the ones I didn’t have individually.
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>Starvo still legal for another month
>Prism and Chane will die along with him because of their good matchups
it's not fair bros
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I cant wait for fabgots and their stupid fucking pyramid scheme to fucking die.
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>>84543891
I should check and see if that deal works in burgerton.
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>>84539214
>paid for the artists flight and lodging out of their own pocket…
That’s a nice move.
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Still don't know what deck I will use.
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>>84511021
>TQ
Nintendo Power gave me a pokemon card and ruined me for life
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Mom rudy's pumping again
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Help a new fabfag out. I'm playing in a classic commoner league and news some help build a Dorinthea deck. I have play sets of all commons and rares (yes we are using commons and rares only) so can build any deck with those cards.
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>>84551896
I should have bought a CF one of these for $10 when I saw it. Would someone do me a bulk deal of playsets of ever super rare card?
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>>84552837
SHILL TILL END OF TIME - (Official Music Video)
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>>84521575
>>84548032
>>84548053
for the ashes bros, the Ashcon online tournament is coming up next week. that was a pretty fun event last year, and unlike a lot of the leagues its got official prize support. worth checking out if you're interested in diving in to online play with the game.
https://www.plaidhatgames.com/news/2022/05/16/ashcon2/
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Seems like a fun casual game
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>>84553633
Sell me your bags
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>>84553749
Bags are for holding, not selling.
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I don't get the anger, just pick up some unviable silly cards for a couple pennies and play it like an unstable set.
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>>84553816
>and play it
The creators haven't played it, why should we?
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>>84553816
how's the coin going now ?
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You now remember Argent Saga
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>>84553169
Someone was saying something about axes in another thread. Don’t know if the card they were referencing is commoner legal.
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More options for bad angels decks soon.
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>>84553633
Chugga chugga chugga chugga choo choo
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>>84553434
Bit sad to see additional bans to first five picks. Whats your take on it? Necessary to keep degenerate/unfun opennings at bay?
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>>84551744
I still don't hate Chane, and Prism is a high quality waifu. I don't want either to go.
But I'll gladly buy up whatever good cards tank without a playable hero.
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>>84553169
If you're using rares then Dawnblade should be pretty viable. Load up on good go again cards like Warrior's Valor and Hit and Run, and have some good reacts like Ironsong Response, Out for Blood, Stroke of Foresight, etc. Might want to run Flock of the Feather Walkers red if you feel like you can't consistently get the go again after the first hit.

If you want to use Axes they're not so bad. Probably better than Sabers without Courage of Bladehold. Blade Runner, Hit and Run, might want to try Talisman of Warfare as a one-of for fun. You want a tiny first swing with go again and a fuckhueg second swing, with the option for a third swing if they don't full block and you played Hit and Run after the first.
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>>84555108
I mean if Light Illusionist or whatever character dies they’ll probably print another soon, especially since they can out the same character on a new undeded card, right? Slap them on participation tokens if they really wanted to.
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>>84555804
Best case scenario: Prism, Chane and Starvo LL by the next B&R and they announce the Living Legend format during Uprising release and support tournaments for it next year.
Worst case: Only Prism and Starvo LL and Prism’s card pool ‘takes a break’ until either a new Light Illusionist hero is eventually printed or Living Legend format takes off.
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>>84555108
Already people are snapping up CF Starvos, if you plan to play him at all in the future I suggest you do the same.
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>>84555097
There's been a lot of debate on it. General consensus varies by card. Skald, Hydra and MaGrow pretty much everybody agrees on having there. They both regularly show up in comp decks even with the handcuff, it just prevents a couple of well-established particularly oppressive opening combos. The owl change is a subject of argument, but the devs have been talking about doing *something* about that card for like a year and a half, so this could be seen as their experimental bandaid ahead of doing something more permanent.

Most people's take on ExGrow, Exhort and Psychic Vamp are that those are somewhat conservative includes that probably don't strictly need to be there, but were lumped in because of mechanical similarity to the above and concerns that "shaving the peaks" would just lead to the next card in line taking its place in the combo. They've said nothing is set in stone though and that they want to keep the list short, so it's conceivable those could get walked back in a season or two.
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>>84556064
Chane sucks to play against, but Prism actually just prevents many other classes and heroes doing what they want to do. Starvo taking birth of them out will slow down the game, hopefully (looking at you Fai), and open up classes like Ninja and Warrior.
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>>84553633
Cringe
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>>84552837
Based Rudy
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Looks like Vertex is going big.
>Promo Pack will have more alt 0s (8 is throwing me off, the first batch of towels was 6 so idk what these will be) and a low chance of Arcgwyn alt
>Looks like June and July promos will either be more alt Servant #s, SPDi02-06&07 specifically
>Chibi promos will be back in August along with debut deck alts like Romail, Ge, Anna, etc. Pulling one instead of a chibi won't be the end of the world because that is the rare pull from Congratulations Packs
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>>84556518
The towels were box toppers and not for another few set or so, so it shouldn’t be those. Maybe the CONGRATULATIONS 0s that use art from the pieces but the “newly illustrated” quote could mean that’s not the case. Could also be the promotional people spouting random words. So much in Vertex I’m waiting for so I’m excited regardless of whatever they babble on about the promos since the set itself will be great.
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>>84556357
If anything, Starvo and Prism were the ones actually slowing down games. Now that task will be up to Showstopper, Oldhim, and Iyslander and I think the the latter two are the best equipped to fill that void. I also fully expect Briar and Katsu to have a resurgence in CC especially since the former has some of her worst competition taken out and the latter gets a lot of new tools. I'm not going to speak to Fai and Dromai as we literally know nothing about them yet but given how strong an extra card pool has been so far I think it's safe to say they will make waves but in what ways, who knows?
As other anons pointed out, Blitz is just fucked. Oldhim and Ira will probably be the next LL candidates after Skirmish S5 but I expect Kano and Iyslander to be at least halfway there too after the dust settles.
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I want Levia to crush my balls with her big stupid purple forehead
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>>84557002
Idk what they were smoking with Blitz, what a horrible format
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>>84556518
Where's this posted at?
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>>84555097
>>84556318
SB said they're doing a stream tonight interviewing the lead dev about the changes to the chain list. might illuminate some of what's guiding this.
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