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Previous: >>84502095

>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>What is EDH?
https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>how to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/

>Thread Question:
Name a commander you have built and/or witnessed that broke the norm of its color combination?
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>>84510375
lurl

sultai do be like that
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>>84510375
Any of my Dimir decks. None of them have interaction, since I'm playing at Weenie Hut Jr.
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Okay so this is Drana. I overhauled the deck from last time. Decided to lean into "I kill your creatures, make big mana, and threaten commander damage". What do you lads think? Also I have an Archon of Cruelty on the way, what should I cut for it?
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Who's good for cycling that isn't that cat dinosaur bitch?

I really want a deck to put my Approach of the Second Sun on.

>>84510458
Profane Tutor.
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>>84510467
Kydele + Bruse for Red or Ravos for Black. Tymna+Kraum can work too.
Zur if you're okay without red.
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>>84510478
>Kydele + Ravos
Wow I've never been sold on a deck so fast. Ty.
I've been trying to complete my four color collection.
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>>84510467
Yeah but Profane Tutors art is kino
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>>84510467
Something with red and white so you can play astral slide and lightning rift.
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>>84510555
Shit. I forgot I need red for Zenith Flare.
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>>84510522
I've actually tried it for a while and can confirm it does play pretty well. The only reason why I took it apart was because I wanted to do another deck in those colors that was Exile-Matters.
Look up some Zur lists and get the idea of what cycling cards you need. Kydele herself can be a potential finisher if you get Umbral Mantle/Sword of the Paruns, just in case you need an emergency win button. Otherwise, grind it out with incremental draw, get some token producers like Drake Haven, Spider Spawning, and Kessig Cagebreakers, and keep the pressure going with the Astral enchantments.
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>>84510478
>>84510555
>>84510572
Okay, here's what I'm thinking...
Ravos + Kraum.

Red for Zenith Flare.
White for Approach of the Second Sun.
Black for black.
Blue for many blue cycling cards.

Plus, I already had a WUBG deck (Atraxa Energy Counters), so this works out.
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>>84509776
I play Bobo. I leaned into the discard theme with stuff like pic. The two red discard hand cars (imposing grandeur and change of fortune are spicy). Plus the basics like keen sense and snake umbra, a solid ramp package, grafted exoskeleton, abundance. He isn't nuts but is my personal favorite commander and earned his spot on the "do not deconstruct ever" list
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>>84510607
Jeskai Black works fine. I say go for it, anon. Your commanders can both compliment a certain aspect of cycling as a whole. Versatility is how you win games.
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>>84510607
>Ravos + Kraum
Here me out: Yore-Tiller Nephilim. Cycle your creatures, bring them back easily, assuming your playgroup aren't a bunch of role 0 faggots
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Arenafag here, How does EDH even work? Can I just show up with pic related precon deck and expect to have fun games since everyone is playing meme decks anyway or do I still have to deck build for synergies?
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>>84510671
Not legendary.
>waaaah but it should be
Fuck off with your bullshit.
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>>84510690
a precon is likely to be underpowered compared to most decks, but some people will have shitty decks specifically to play with shitty precons. Unless you run into someone that wants to shiton your day you'll still probably have fun.
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>>84510467
I have been loving cycling decks. I've been doing it with sefris.

My favorite cards in the deck are:
>Dying to Serve
(which triggers off cycling itself)
>Desecrated Tomb
>Tormod the Desecrator
Which work off the Bag of Holding, Containment Construct, Toluz Clever Conductor, and Currency Converter I have in the decklist.
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>>84510744
Yeah like I said, 'Rule 0 faggots'
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>>84510690
It depends on the play group. Precon decks are getting pretty good so you could probably just show up with it and play unless the group is pretty strong. Biggest issue is they tend to be a bit unfocused and trying to support multiple themes
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>>84510779
Cry about it. It isn't legendary. Let me use whatever the fuck I want for a commander too. Dumbass snowflake lmao.
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>>84510787
based
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>>84510787
cringe
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>>84510787
>t.
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>>84510787
Based
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>>84510818
nice copejak
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The Nephelim should've been legendary
Uncle Istvan should be legendary
Tamanoa should be legendary

Anyone who disagrees is actively agreeing with Gavin Vergay. "Wahh its a slippery slope"
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>>84504118
Alas, no. Aside from changelings of course.
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>>84510838
the best part about the slippery slope fallacyis growing up and realizing its not a fallacy
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>>84510853
It is a fallacy. Sometimes things slip downslope and sometimes they don't, so we're therefore still left to use good judgment.
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>>84510838
>tfw the one creature I wanted to be a legend is getting a slightly better version in Mardu
feels good man
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>>84510865
cute
CUTE!
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>>84510865
>slightly better
Jan Jansen looks busted. Pronounced 'Yahn' btw
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>>84510671
My playgroup is exclusively rule 0 hahaha. One of them has 3x Legion Angel in his sideboard. Plus we already play Pauper sometimes.

>>84510689
I get it. But at least the thaliaposter actually puts texts with his posts.


>>84510690
I mean you can with other people who keep precons to play against precons. My precon to play against precons is Otrimi, the Ever-Playful. Which honestly seems to be OP on it's own.


>>84510758
Lmao I was just looking for a DND deck last night. I never thought about using him for cycling. I guess this falls under reanimator theme?

>>84510901
Lmao, you're right. I just don't get it. They don't print any hetrosexual stuff. I mean maybe they do but I never see a dude brushed up against a chick all naked in a hot tub. Oh shit, this is already derailed.
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>>84510690
On the one hand the Commander precons are generally decent, synergized decks with a fair bit of value, so you'll have a functional deck. On the other hand most groups will be playing decks at a higher level than an unmodified precon so it'll probably be on the weak side.
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>tfw cards didn't make it in for the weekend
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Mail call!
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If you can't swap out your commander for any other legendary in same colors without your deck completely shitting itself then your deck sucks.
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>>84510671
I have a Malestrom Angel "commander" deck. It's like Kalia but with extra steps.
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>>84511011
No, then your deck is fun and interesting. Take your goodstuff piles and go.
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>>84511011
cringe
>>84511019
based
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>>84511011
Man. I met a person like this once, where he said he just picked the commander for the colors and then had like the sleeve cover the entire card completely and he never cast it. I was like wtf.

It was this, but on the front side. And the back side was the clear side, where you could see the MTG logo. It shouldn't have rustled my jimmies, but here we are.
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>>84511019
>>84511030
Your Shirei deck or whatever will never be interesting and i will remove your commander every time it hits the board.
>>84511048
Hey i got those sleeves, they are cute but pretty shit.
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Post your favorite good stuff card.
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>>84511092
Your goodstuff pile will never be as good as you think it is. You will still lose to "insert X deck that made you seethe"
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>>84511092
>Your Shirei deck will never be interesting and i will remove your commander every time it hits the board
That's fine, it's a combo deck that most often wins off of ad nauseam or peer into the abyss. Shirei is just there to resurrect stax and waste your time while I find the combo pieces.
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>>84511157
I mean the point of magic is to have fun. Sounds like you have fun. So it's all good.
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>>84510838
Slippery slope ain't a fallacy.
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>>84510987
Very nice, anon.
I got a FtV foil Jitte from my LGS years ago - they have a sign-in sheet and then give out a card every week to a random someone who was there the previous week.
Been trying to find a deck for it lately, but I have been unsuccessful.
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>>84511011
>have a card that you almost always have available no matter what
>don't build around it because ???
ISHYGGD
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>>84511425
Because you'd never survive in non Craw metas.
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>>84511011
>If you can't swap out your commander for any other legendary in same colors without your deck completely shitting itself then your deck sucks.
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>>84511460
Here we can see the cope of a bad deck builder
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>>84511460
>survive
Nigger, this is a casual format for a card game
You aren't cool or tough for playing with better cards.
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Good one guys. Sure showed me.
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>>84511467
>>84511468
>Relies too much on their Commander
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>>84511589
>doesnt stop command no jutsu
I shiggy
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>>84510607
>(Atraxa Energy Counters)
>missing out on the most fun energy cards by excluding red
Hate to see it
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>>84510853
The existence of a slope somewhere in the universe in which someone has slipped does not confer slippery status on every other slope.
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>>84511019
>I can’t build a deck without the commander telling me how to build it!
Neither fun nor interesting, just an EDHREC cookie cutter.
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Why do you losers think you are better than craw players for playing the same 2-3 card spell combos every other player does? Your deck requires no thought, you didn't come up with your own combos. You're just low T faggots is my theory
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>>84511157
So, you’re saying that the deck doesn’t completely shit itself if you swap out the commander for a different one in the same colors?
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>>84511609
Who would you use for energy counters?
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>>84510853
Very true. Both the other guys are angry pseuds
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>>84510987
>>84510979
Shop local faggots
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>>84511640
Because I find it fun to bring strategies I've learned from other formats over the years, and watching some grown man cry about it is hilarious. Magic is a skill based game in construction as well as execution; the vast majority of weak decks aspire to be better but wont due to budget.
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>>84511011
This is actually the worst opinion I have ever seen on 4chan. Not even pertaining to MTG. Just in general, this is the worst opinion I have ever heard
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>>84511640
Hidetsugu combo never existed before I built it, bucko. No matter how much it makes you seethe, my deck was original when the entire internet was turning their nose at him for being a, "Bad Prosper/Aristocrats," commander.
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>>84511589
>>84511639
>>84511692
You are dumb. How much a deck revolves around a commander has little bearing on how good it is.
By your logic, tribal decks are the strongest and most competitive decks and any cEDH that has a commander as part of a game-winning combo like Malcolm sucks.
>ohhhh but what if someone plays Meddling Mage in a singleton format???????
It's called "removal". Every deck has it.
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>>84511692
>I find it fun to mimic other players
Lol. Low t faggots confirmed
>skill in construction
Agreed, so why use the same combos as everyone else? There is no skill in that!
Captcha: SGTGS
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>>84511639
Sick mental gymnastics. You'll win that medal for sure.
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>>84511725
Why would you making an original combo bother me? I'm talking about thassas, ad naus etc the same combos you see in every game. Or even non combos like dumping 50000 mana into thrasios.

Link your hidetusug deck I have one sitting on my desk and I have been wanting to make a rakdos deck lately.
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>Dream Halls in Evelyn
why didn't I think of this sooner
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>>84511727
Oh it's this retard. Your deck can only be t3 in cedh if you build a deck that isnt built around a commander. Literally no better than slapping every good card off edhrec.

>>84511731
Go on, show me something as unique as world gorger animate dead with blood moon, valakut and an appropriate number of lands.
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>>84511640
I think you'll find that there's usually three other players trying to prevent you from doing the combo.
You don't think about playing the combo. You think about how to set up the combo while a piece is in your hand when it should be in your library and there's a stax piece in play which you need to remove before you can even attempt the combo.
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>>84511686
Not everyone is a big city slicker
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>>84511769
https://www.edhrec.com/combos/worldgorger-dragon
:-|
>>84511781
Yes magic includes interaction I understand. Mainly I'm just throwing out a jab cause I love big creatures that's fun for me. I don't really care about people who rather with by slinging spells, unless it's boring stuff like the aforementioned thassas combos. I just don't get why these people think they are better when the level of thought is largely the same. Everyone's gotta worry about interaction, board health etc.
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>>84511589
>thinking nevermore will last until the end of his turn
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I was out on my hike and I saw a squirrel eating an acorn
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>>84511769
>unique as world gorger animate dead
This has to be satire...
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>>84511799
So I had a Bluetooth speaker and I played squirrel noises and he responded. Cards for this feel?
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>>84511811
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>>84511655
Personally, I use Riku, though I acknowledge there aren’t a ton of great options. But, having tinkered with and tuned the deck a lot, I can also say that you’re almost certainly overvaluing proliferate—one extra energy counter per turn cycle is pretty negligible in the grand scheme of things. Generating energy is often much, much easier than finding useful things to spend it on.
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My LGS has asked me to come up with 4 decks to make a battlebox they can take out for people who don't have a deck on them or want to learn the game/format. They said I could do anything I wanted asides from:
>$50-$75 budget per deck
>No infinites
>No stax/hard locks
>No partners
>Each deck does something different (ie: No more than one deck can be tribal, spellslinger, voltron, etc)
With the budget I've been given I was thinking monocolor decks, so I said fuck it and decided on doing a deck for each monocolor instead of just the 4 they want. I know I wanna do Talrand for Blue since he's a pretty straightforward spellslinger dude, but what should I do for the other 4 colors?
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>>84511926
Are they paying you? Free cards?
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>>84511926
>$75
>Roughly $1 per card plus basics
They're not giing to stand up to the average Joe. At that point why not just have 4 rental precons?
They're all going to need to be low cost commanders (both price and cmc) and a bunch of enablers.
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Im building mono G for the first time
post your favorite green cards
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>>84511970
This. Why is the LGS being so cheap on cards they own. The budget should be 125-200
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>>84511957
$100 in store credit + some charges lifted from my tab. I'll probably use the store credit on some Set Booster box.
>>84511970
Ideally the decks are meant to be played against one another, though I figured with the budget I could make them at least stand up to upgraded precons. They're not expecting cEDH level decks here, just well tuned ones with a singular focus.
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consider the following: due to the way they're treating UB Secret Lairs, the Orks will not be Orks, but Fungus Warriors/wizards/beserkers

This makes them translate to real MTG a lot better than anything with the Astartes typeline, but also means you can play into Proliferate/Populate shenanigans
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>>84511751
Here is the current list I'm trying to optimize. I have a more grindy varient as well that's more of an Artifact/Reanimator strategy.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/MsCvEcvTgUqbFzDjBGWY5A
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>>84511986
my main nigga, eternally and forever, we ride togetha, and we die togetha
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>no one responded to my Drana build
I-is it shit?
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>>84512041
I'm not a good deck builder but I think drana is fun so I support you ^.^
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>>84511805
Not him, but Worldgorger is the most big dick infinite mana generator in the game due to how absolutely fucking backbreaking it is if you can't manage to defend it from basic removal that every color has access to. Not only that, but infinite mana means nothing without something to channel it into, which is the more interesting part of the combo (Big X spells are generally lame, I will admit though).
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>>84511011
You're fucking stupid.
On the other hand, having a deck where you could have multiple different legends at helm for each match is pretty based. I have a Naya deck where a few cards in the 99 could comfortably swap for the helm.
Meanwhile if you try to swap Arcades for any other Bant legend, you're fucked.
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how the fuck do mono U decks win?
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>>84512072
>how absolutely fucking backbreaking it is if you can't manage to defend it from basic removal
How is it backbreaking? Your shit just comes back
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>>84512111
Generally infinite turns, milling everyone out, or stealing every permanent.
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>>84511926
>No infinites
Cringe
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>>84512134
Or labman/thoracle obviously, how could I forget.
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>>84512121
>Worldgorger ability goes on stack
>Kill the Worldgorger or destroy Animate Dead in responds
>Lose your entire boardstate when ability resolves
>No Worldgorger in play to "get your stuff back" from
The combo is 1000% all in, or die.
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>squirrelfag is out there hanging out with actual squirrels
Should we stop him?
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>People sincerely play Dark Ritual
I really don't get it in this format outside of Commanders like Kess.
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>>84512111
Polymorph.
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>>84512314
>t1 swamp, dark ritual, entomb, persist bringing back sire of insanity
>proceeds to beat a player to death with it while nobody has shit
thats why
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>>84512335
go back >>>/tg/mtg
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>>84512314
It's 1 mana for 3 mana.
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>>84512343
>not 1 mana for 4 mana
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>>84512357
>implying I play creatures that are shit enough to be needlessly sacrificed
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>>84512314
Because you are a shitter that only play baby decks.
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>comboplayer spends 20 minutes figuring out his loop
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>>84511926
Might I suggest Whisper, Blood Liturgist for Black?
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>>84512433
>Explain the loop to other players
>Ask if you can repeat it an arbitrary number of times or until your mana runs out
>One of them doesn't get it and asks you to explain again or walk through the whole sequence hoping you'll fuck up
Combo is a sickness, and it's contagious.
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>>84512395
That’s why you play creatures good enough to be purposely sacrificed
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>>84510458
Personally I think this is a great list.

If I had to make a cut for Archon, I'd probably say Lili of Dark Realms. This may just be for preference sake but I've never seen anyone ult it, and there's better removal in your deck than the -3. I imagine it's mainly in the deck to feed coffers and the like but to me it seems like nothing more than removal bait. Archon at least has the etb.

Culling the weak would look good in this too btw
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who is the hottest female planeswalker?
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>>84512493
Liliana when she's not drawn like a tranny
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Do you pick your commander for the art, it's colour wheel, abilities, etc?
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>>84512512
All of the above, color is least important tho
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>>84512493
Liliana without a doubt
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>>84512493
chandra
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>>84512493
Literally Chandra.
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Post cards you found in your bulk boxes/piles that made you go "how have i never heard of this card before?"
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>>84512493
my wife
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Bird tribal is essentially dino tribal
Change my mind
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>>84512493
>>84512677's wife
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can you build a good hate deck, or is he more of a 99 kind of guy?
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>>84512696
>t.
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Thoughts on Kamiz Infect? / Is infect as hated as it used to be a couple years ago?
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>>84512703
Is this the card that Professor faggot thought dealt commander damage?
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>>84512677
Go take care of your dinos Huatli
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>>84512493
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>>84512493
Sad i never pulled this alt art
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>friend was talking shit about my bird deck
Do you let your friends bad mouth your decks?
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>>84512713
If you play infect ill probably just target you straight up to be honest
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>>84512742
I cant even imagine how insufferable you are to play with in person. I just imagine you constantly going on about birds and everytime someone plays a card you go OMG IS THAT BIRD??
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>>84512343
1 mana + 1 card for 3 mana.
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>>84512669
I guarantee I originally misread it and thought it bounced your own stuff too.
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I’m gonna pre order warhammer someone stop me bros
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>>84512801
What is the point you are trying to make. It's essentially the same thing as a Jeweled Lotus in mono black
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>>84512818
Are they up already?
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>>84512493
The cheesemaker
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>>84512818
I'm tapping out my balls after I pre order your mom's ass
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>>84512819
Jeweled Lotus is free to cast, is a card type far more easier to abuse, and is also vastly overrated.
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>>84512842
Right but now Dark Ritual is useful for more than just your commander. So I ask again, what's your point? Give me one (2) reason(s) not to ever run Dark Ritual in mono black
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So what’s the appeal of 40K? Is it just about being able to turn your brain off about morals and just enjoying the steel/muscles and overall power tripping/flexing?
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>>84512870
What subreddit did you copy this from?
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>>84512842
I run dark ritual because it fits the deck's theme, not because it's the best option for the slot.
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>>84512894
Does any card have more art than DR?
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>>84512894
based USG dark ritual is the best one
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>>84510853
>>84511204
it is, but a lot of the time something that's being called out as slippery slope fallacy isn't like the lgbtqp
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>>84512904
Basic lands
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>>84512904
I'd say that too if I were a retarded faggot who was dumb
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>>84512880
I don’t use Reddit, I’m just stupid.
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>>84512917
Guay has good pieces, but this sucks
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>>84512870
>morals
>power tripping
Crawl in a hole and die, troon
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>>84512934
Like I said, retarded.
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>>84511686
I refuse to give to the LKS. I will still go there to play with my friends tho.
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>>84512951
Whatever helps you cope
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>>84512904
I'm still sad the Strixhaven premium one is so dull. I really wanted an alchemical symbols ars goetica style scrollwork looking thing.
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>>84511986
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>>84512314
all my cards are dark ritual
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>>84512823
Guess not. When would they be? Thanks anon
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Dark ritual belongs in every deck with black. Like how lightning bolt belong in every deck with red
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>>84512992
This card seems fantastic in Chainer
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>>84512947
You play with dolls
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>>84513094
Ok NPC
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Looking for good suggestions for a vore tribal.
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>>84513142
Kroxa, duh. And every creature with devour
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>>84513142
Magmaw
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>>84513142
Atogatog is your commander
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>>84512858
1) Any other 1-2cmc mana rock is going to generate more throughout the span of the game
2) Ramping into another card just for it to get hit with removal is actively putting you at negative card advantage.
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>>84513142
Thromak devour tribal
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>>84513221
YES!
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>>84510375
Fixed.
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>>84513255
You should have removed the black pip
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>>84512314
first turn wife is good in my book
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>>84513142
keep your shitty fetish to yourself
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is he fun?
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It's hot as fuck out and now I'm getting my cards all sweaty FUCK
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>>84513358
how would one do that? those cards already exist, you cant un-print them lol
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>>84513385
shut the fuck up retard
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>>84513370
No
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>>84512493
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>>84512491
Removal bait is a good thing, better something that might accelerate you in several turns than something that you actually care about like Vito.
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>>84511609
>energy
>fun
choose exactly one
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>>84510923
As someone who ran an Otrimi deck for a while, the precon deck is pretty good, though it's missing some of the mutates and has a shit landbase like most precons. I modded it by adding unblockable auras, the missing mutates, better ramp, and some graveyard tutors, and it was annoying enough that my friends complained about me playing it until I took it apart for something even more annoying.
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>shit flinging started by rule zerolets in the last thread continues to spill over
Excellent, excellent.
In the meantime, why is nobody talking about this thing? It just turned Etrata from cutesy meme to actually pretty okay
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I'm building my third Gruul deck and you can't stop me
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The art is actually pretty badass and I have a fondness for atogs because Psychatog was the #1 deck in standard back when I first got in to competitive magic. What is a good way to build this to best compete with my friend's sliver deck?
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>>84513463
I'm running this bitch as head of an Assassin, Mercenaries Rogues tribal deck. She's a more contrived Tymna. I plan to play the Nemesis mercenaries that let me search out creatures and put them in to play at instant speed and Conspiracy, so I can play any creature in my deck.
Her weakness is she's a Do Things Draw Cards and a Treasure the Treasuring, but I like the creature types and don't have a tribal or mono black deck. Hoping this can cover both bases.
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>>84513509
Run as many infinite combos as you can.
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>my lgs buys my cards for 85% of market value
holy kino I thought it would be like 50% like other stores
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>>84513534
I fucking hate when lgs do that 50% shit
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>>84513546
They gotta turn a profit on bought cards SOMEHOW.
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I fucking hate the over-saturation of Treasure tokens.
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>>84513603
if it were for draft chaff I get it but when I go in with pricey mh2 singles dont try to pull this shit on me or Ill just hang out and find someone to trade with (which never works because no one plays anything except edh in paper anymore)
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I just think she's neat. What can I do with her?
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I feel like making a treasure deck.
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>>84512508
>>84512720
Why wouldn't this be commander damage.
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>slowly becoming a lands fag
Im sorry anon-kun but I have betrayed you
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>>84513644
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>>84513656
use her to fill your yard and get spells back in a reanimator deck
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he STINKY
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>>84513767
just like UR MOM LOL
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>>84513534
Mine does 75. 85 sounds pretty based jelly
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>Want to build some deck that can make good use of Luxior
>Been looking at Reyhan + Ishai with a +1/+1 Counter theme
Or should I look at something else? It doesn't need to be competitive, I just want to make a gigantic Elspeth or something.
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>>84513808
sharuum charge counters, bring back eternity vessel and put luxior on it
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Speaking of lands, let me tell you about a fun lands deck that I built.
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>>84513490
BASED. I’m sticking chun-li in hinata. Sad there’s no cammy
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When can I buy pre orders for new products? I want a box of dominaria
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STAND UP
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/gKPo5BPuD0q9NTZsLMnSkg
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>>84513850
I don’t know but I don’t blame you. The last dominaria was really, really good. I doubt they can top it
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>>84513861
Ngl this just appears to be W goodstuff with too high of a mana curve
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>>84513821
That's pretty fucking hilarious.
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What decks does the lad belong in
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>>84514014
the ones that run contamination
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Commander legends 2 comes out in a month, why so little spoilers?
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>>84514014
Anything that wants to sac a lot.
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>>84513956
my thought exactly.
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>>84513490
Man, that card looks straight out of street fighter. With all these crossovers lately, makes me want a Soul Calibur crossover.
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If I wanted to buy an affordable box what should I get?
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>>84514067
Oh, shit, it is street fighter lmao. When did that happen?
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>>84514072
Like a deck box? Bulk box? Booster box?
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>>84514102
Booster box
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>>84513956
Pretty much, it's just my take on board wipe tribal. It's pretty easy to have ten cards in hand every turn and swing with Kiyomaro. Maybe can use more low cmc ramp, I'm still in the process of tweaking since the deck is fairly new
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>>84511048
>>84511092
w2c the sleeves?
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>>84514017
They start Monday and go for a week
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>>84514067
>>84514085
lmao
Yeah I fucking hate the flavor and wish it weren't SF. I'll replace it as soon as the MtG equivalent is printed, if I still have the deck.
They were spoiled back in February, but I don't remember when the secret lair actually went on sale.
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>>84511112
I like Vampiric Tutor more not just because I cracked a few from various events but I love doing at instant speed before my turn just to make the table panic when all I'm fetching from my bullshit mid-tier, non-combo decks that I slotted them all in is like a decent, on-curve card.
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>>84514148
Street fighter is fifty times cooler than the “””flavour””” of magic the gathering. I hope you’re excited for pg13 phyrexia and no bigotry allowed mirrodin
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Good treasure hate, Y/N?
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>>84513651
Commander damage is combat damage only
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>>84514204
Shitty. Instawin treasure combos ignore it
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>>84514204
this is the best treasure hate in the game
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Thoughts on the boy
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>>84514220
Wrong.
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>>84514220
Collector ouphe
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Any reason not to run this?
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>>84513829
You're missing the most important piece: Ashaya so that Realm Razer constantly flickers the entire table's lands over and over and over again and Tunnel Ignus domes all your opponents to death.
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>>84514253
This post reminded me I have a WAR karn rotting in my binder. I'll use that for now.
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>>84514294
might be rough in anything 3+ color
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>>84514314
>whole table beats the fucking shit out of him the turn cycle after he resolves
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>>84512012
>the Orks will not be Orks, but Fungus Warriors/wizards/beserkers
Questionable, given that Space Marines are Astartes instead of Humans.
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>>84512012
Bruh. You do know that "Orc" is a creature type in magic right? The ork cards will all be orcs, unless they decide to include gretchin which will be Goblins. If they add squigs those will just be beasts.
Also, there's a pretty strong chance that the "Squad" mechanic they showed off for the imperium deck is just gonna be in all the decks
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>>84513456
Nah, I'll choose both.
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>>84514380
Holy shit this card is a visual mess. Energy counters were an awful fucking meme mechanic and look terrible in print.
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>>84514380
gontis aether fart
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>>84514304
>Ashaya
Is that how that would work? I assumed it would resolve like fiend hunter and exile everything before the second ability gets a chance to trigger
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>>84514460
I believe you're right and the other Anon is wrong. It's the same as saccing an O-Ring with the ETB on the stack.
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>>84514320
i run it in my 5c omniscience deck fuk u
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>>84514380
Energy is based. I just dunno the best energy commander to use for all my energy cards
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How many instants and sorceries should be in a deck to make Talrand or murmuring mystic playable?
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>>84514366
For me it’s skinks
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Fun ways to build Oloro that aren't all in on lifegain?
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>>84514653
99x noose hangs 1x arcane sanctum
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Coolest/jankest reanimation target to pitch with this guy t3? I wanna try putting the one creature deck together for one or two games, before scrapping it for an actual reanimator deck atleast.
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you ever browse the premium versions of cards and get pleasently surprised by the quality of the art?
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>>84514460
>>84514475
You're incorrect. Everything gets exiled at the same time, but the ability has to resolve before they get exiled--which means that the objects are identified for the second ability to return them to the battlefield when Realm Razer itself leaves and triggers that second ability. Same as how you can infinitely flicker Parallax Wave with Opalescence.
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>>84511986
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which one?
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>>84514860
what commander
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>>84514860
Ship
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>>84514860
Right one easily.
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>>84514860
Always go for the older printings when possible unless it's a situation like Quirion Ranger.
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>>84514882
titania
>>84514891
>>84514897
>>84514938
guess Im going with the older one
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I tried making yidaro/godzilla with just a ton of voltron and red ramp for laughs.

It won a game at my store and the guy was really salty because the deck is so fucking stupid
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>>84512744
This. Was in a EDH tournament and one of the guys had a fynn, the fangbearer deck. Immediately targeted him in my mind before the game started.
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Bros the new wrenn and six has nudity
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>>84515005
Buying a box right fucking now .
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>>84515005
Printing out so many barcode labels right now.
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>>84515005
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>>84511695
You haven’t been on here too long.
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You now remember rune enchantments exist, there are 5 of them and 2 supporting cards. Just in case anyone wants to enchant an equipment before someone casts dockside
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>>84515091
is that bill burr
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What's the appeal of tribal tribal with this idiot? Anyone done this? Been tempted to but also tempted to just sell the fucker so
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>>84515005
*EYES BURST FROM HEAD AND TONGUE ROLLS OUT OF MOUTH WITH STEAM COMING FROM EARS* A WOOO HOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YIKA WIKA EEEEEEEEEEEE HELLO NURSE
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>>84514967
Left probably fits her better but yeah that old art on the right is too damn good
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>>84515005
Wrenn and Sex
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>>84515119
Hes too expensive as a commander. I usually include him with jodah decks to make all mana costs zero. Plus jodah helps make him cheaper.
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>>84515119
It’s funner using an old random commander with a surprise tribe in the deck to throw people off

I have a pal who has thantis wall tribal and it’s pretty neat
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>>84512012

I wonder if they intentionally skipped Eldar and Orks to showcase 40k races that aren't just elves and orcs in space.
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>>84515134
>>84515135
Yeah, thought so. Might just send him to a mate of mine, they've got a deck that could use it.
Just going through cards/decks trying to figure out what I want to change/build/deconstruct and whatnot
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>>84514783
I like the zendikar expedition lands.
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>>84515181
What tribe friend?
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>>84515180
I’m surprised there’s no nurgle. I feel like it’s so recognizable to non warhammer people
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I just found out they’re making a Tyranid deck for the 40k Universes Beyond. What are the chances they will be typed as insects? I might buy it if they are.
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>>84515254
They're likely going to be typed as "Tyranid"
Space marines got typed as "astartes"
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>>84515254
They’ll be tyranids anon. They’re not insects
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>>84514804
>the ability has to resolve before they get exiled--which means that the objects are identified for the second ability
Okay that makes sense. Without the ignus/another piece would realm razor and ashaya tie the game since there's no way to stop it the flickering?
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>>84515261
That card is literally unplayable.
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>>84515266
>>84515271
Fuck. Guess I’ll have to hope the Nantuko are miraculously alright in Dominaria United.
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>>84515215
They've got a dragon deck they've been meaning to try and change up a bit
Currently Scion
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is this a newb trap for reanimator decks?
>play it early, get maybe 2 useless things and then it dies and/or get targeted all game
>have it in the graveyard but have much more valuable targets for combos/ETBs so I never reanimate it in the first place
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>>84515283
He's good with other cards like grave pact in sac decks, less so as a standalone, I'd run Tegrid over it since she gets discarded cards too meaning you mindslicer for the lulz.
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>>84515283
it's a good card. up to you to decide if there's enough sacrifice at your table to justify running. obviously if you want only the most powerful reanimation target just get razaketh or protean hulk
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>>84515278
The only of the 40k crossover cards that will have relevant magic types are the Ork ones that are coming in a secret lair, which will just have the "orc" type so they can do functional reprints like the stranger things ones.
They're also doing blood bowl and age of sigmar secret lairs too so that's neat. You won't get any bugs though from those Unless GW decides to surprise literally everyone and add silent ones to AoS and use the SL as promotion
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Poat kino U commanders
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>>84515370
the one and only
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Is it even worth running 1 or 2 planeswalkers in the 99 if it's not a Superfriends deck?
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>>84515370
>>84515377
There are exactly two and neither of these are it. The two are Taniwha and Charix
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I was playing Lynde and nickle and diming my opponent by saccing my curses with Mayhem Devil on the field. It was a like 20 turn clock. Then I topdecked picrel and sacced all my permanents and shot him for like 17 in one turn.
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>>84515384
Depends on which walkers and what deck. the answer is generally "Yes" though
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>>84515370
see>>84513656
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>>84515428
>6 mana
>needs to die
>in mono U
Yea, no. That's just a do nothing commander.
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>>84515370
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>>84515453
>forgetting it's a 6 mana 6/6 with flying and protection.
blue rarely gets bodies at that rate. just give it an extra power and it's a control wincon without even needing to die
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It's EDH and they're generals. not commanders, you faggots.
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>>84515479
>generals
Fuck off hipster
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>>84514938
Old quirion ranger is based. Fuck off
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>>84515488
No it ain't.
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>>84515124
>Left probably fits her better but yeah that old art on the right is too damn good
The flavortext of the right one LITERALLY says argoth, which Titania is according to her epithet "Protector of"
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>>84510690
You show up with a 40k deck at my store you'll get smacked around
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>>84515610
>Hmm, fat ugly cards from the newest sets? Great for me I love seeing Kinnan's great smile in my simic value deck!
>IS THAT WARHAMMER? AIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TARGET HIM TARGET HIM TARGET HIIIIIM
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>>84515610
I'm going to build him and there's nothing you can do about it faggot
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>>84513463
I put her in my Kelsien deck, she's good
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>>84515283
Yes. I'd rather run some of the big demons like Villis
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>>84515847
So the commanders are gonna be
>Rowboat Girlyman
>Abbadon the Armless
>The swarmlord
>IDK Trazyn? The silent king?
I'm honestly more interested in what they're planning on putting in the blood bowl and AoS secret lairs. And the Ork one
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>>84515847
Okay just don't come round these parts or you'll get lynched faster than a negro hanging around a white woman
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>>84511011
Tell me you play UG without telling you play UG
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>>84511011
>If your deck isn't the most generic value deck for it's colors possible then your deck sucks
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Who's a fun boros general?
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>>84513142
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>>84515119
If you wanna do Changelings + Oops all lords/best tribal payoffs, you'd rather run Ur Dragon in the CZ for the free discount on all your changeling spells. Morophon's good in the 99 of that deck
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>>84515979
That name is just begging for a goatse edit.
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>>84511011
That's called cEDH and it's just boring uninspired bullshit.
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>>84512493
In literal sense, Chandra (har har), but figuratively it's easily Nahiri. She's given me so many nuts it's not even comprehensible. I haven't even bothered to look at the other walkers.
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>>84514238
A staple in mono black and B/X decks. Strong and cool.
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Took apart Averna to make way for Yidris.
Sell me on a Temur commander in her place. Open for most things just no cEDH.
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>>84515978
Really been enjoying the General and Quintorius of all people. The former has a surprising amount of interaction, the latter is "what if sultai but not sultai". Get permanents of all shapes and sizes out.
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>>84516142
I miss tarkir so fucking much.
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>>84516142
Why did you even build Averna, shit's wack. Now that I've made fun of you, I'd recommend Yasova. I had built her long time ago, took it apart and built her again, now she's been solid and I've taken her with me to LGS most of the time. I have other Temur commanders, but Yasova is the one I end up taking with me.
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someone make a new thread i want to make a post before going to sleep so i can check the replies tomorrow
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>>84516204
>Why did you even build Averna, shit's wack.
Because someone had to do it. :( Yasova does seem cool though. What are your other Temur friends?
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Whose a decent commander for G/R/X+ for stuff like pod/fetch shenanigans plus copying
creatures with cards like kiki/mirror of kiki and that new one in capenna
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>>84516237
Just Riku at the moment. Others aren't completed, but I have thought about the doggy fetch partners or Xyris, but haven't gotten to it. Unfortunately many of the singular legends don't appeal to me, so I would build partners that fit best to the gameplan I'd like to play, or until a new, interesting one would come out.
I did play Omnath for a while, but I don't really like tribal, so it didn't last, and I also played Intet for thr longest time, but that was during the time I was starting EDH and my deckbuilding was wonky at best, so I can't remember the particulars.
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After all this time, we finally get a legendary Phoenix and I haven't seen one mention of him on here. Someone has to represent! So I'm building Phoenix tribal! I'm calling the strategy of the deck "Ping, Swing, and Fling". Basically, I bring something back from the graveyard which activates Syrix's ability and pings someone. But before damage resolves I use a card like Hatred to buff a Phoenix to ping for big damage. Next, I go to combat and swing, then Fling with my beefed up fire bird. The only problem is I don't know what the final cuts should be. Would anyone mind taking a look and giving their opinion on what I should cut? Or what I cut that I should put back in?
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/phoenix-still-need-no-big-copy/?share=f0556dc94edbeff4bef167c35ccd0067
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>>84516273
Play Yasova. Steal opponent's creatures just to Polymorph them.
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>>84516273
What new one in capenna?
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>>84516323
I'm building the guy and got some phoenixes for it. I started to buy them, because I was gonna build Jeskai birbs, but Syrix diverted my attention and ended up pulling the trigger on some other phoenixes, most importantly Firestorm Phoenix, though it's not synergistic with the commander.
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If wizards had any balls they would make all tyranids have the sliver typing
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>>84516345
Jaxis
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>>84516345
Most likely the guy means Jaxis, the Tomboy Hooligan.
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>>84516402
Oh shit, I wonder how good it would be in my Olivia, Crimson Bride deck as a discard outlet/copier
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>>84516345
>>84516402
>>84516403
Just fucking call her Rosie the Rioter like everyone else.
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>>84516429
Make me you dingus
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>84516446
If you do it I'll give you another (You)
Maybe two
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Actually got to try out a Grist deck for the first time the other night, it actually did pretty decent. They're always "insect goodstuff" but I can respect dedication to a theme.
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>>84516550
Saw this and was thinking of doing it, but I already have so many decks I wanna make
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>>84516323
I finally got the push to get a Rose Room Treasurer, thanks anon.
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>>84515005
we already had exposed female nipples, nothing new
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>>84517351
>>84517351
>>84517351
NEW
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>>84515272
Yep, though if you have instant speed removal in hand you can also just hit Ashaya to revert Realm Razer to only hitting lands and thus not flickering.
Funniest thing I ever had was someone trying to stop the loop with Utter End and getting incredibly angry when we pointed out why it didn't work.



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