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Gotta Go Fast Edition

Previous Heresy >>84494367

>Official Website
https://thehorusheresy.com/
>Official FAQ/Errata/Downloads (Exemplary Battles):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/#the-horus-heresy
https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/#the-horus-heresy
>Thread FAQ (very old, remembers Age of Terra)
https://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
>Thread FAQ (suggestion)
https://pastebin.com/8riDmnhS
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
https://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Warhammer_Tactics/30k
>Rules and supplements
mega<dot>nz<slash>folder/3wwGVTjZ#zwjoK0nSZ2Kzin6mJ0dV1w
mega<dot>nz<slash>folder<slash>yM1yWIba#ETw9ELPJmEScSrM9WwjRCw

>Thread Question
Favorite Legion you don't play?
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>>84506806
>Favorite Legion you don't play?
Unironically Ultramarines
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>>84506806
Dark Angels, the checkers are so sexy
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>>84506806
Scars
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I want to do Word Bearers with the new list. What would be fluffy "essential" units?
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>>84506883
New boxset*
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Hello, I’ve been doing some test models for a Nightlords army, I’m still not fully sure on what color is best, I want to know what you guys think looks the best so far? Any tips or advice on painting or converting nightlords is also appreciated!
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>>84506883
Word bearers are a vanilla legion with a slight preference for hordes. If the playtest is roughly unchanged they’ll have a penchant for summoning daemons and for bringing a lot of “corrupted” units aka very gribbly boys
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>>84506910
Dark blue on the right with the claw is my favorite. Maybe tone down the lightning? It’s hard to pull off.
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>>84506883
Look up Duncans video on how to paint lightning effects.
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should I get 1mm, 2mm or 3mm one? I'm trying to wrap chain around my boi's arms and/or make them hold on their hands
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The fuck GW
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Forge World took down HH transfer sheets from their size with the exception of mechanicum and custodes
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>>84506910
I like 1 and 3, the darker blue suits them.
Also nice face skulls.
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>>84506910
I like the one on the right a bit more, but my advice would be to try and paint thinner lightning bolts. Less paint on the brush and go a bit slower should do the trick
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>>84506970
>Expert Level Transfer Sheets on GW
Calling it now.
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>>84506806
If you're removing Titanicus, may as well rename this into 40kg2.
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>>84506952
1mm
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>>84507180
Who the fuck even plays titanicus my god
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>>84506970
They're still available in the UK
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>>84506970
I hope that means the new GW Upgrade Kits will be available at or near launch.
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>>84506970
I hope it's sone sort of error. GW transfers suck ass.
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I am interested in the new plastic Sicaran for my Night Lords, they could use a speedy little bit of heavy weaponry to help out. What say you?
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>>84507227
Plastic sucks.
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>>84506883
All the regular SM stuff without leaning too hard into anything, but maybe bring a command squad with power mauls to represent apprentice chaplains training under your apostle.
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>>84507180
You never belonged here. We were here long before your shitty gimmick "game" existed, and we will always be here. Now fuck off to /gwsg/ and be silent, cuck.
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So no double melee?
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>>84507272
Go back to 40kg, tourist fuck.
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>>84507272
Woah, look out everyone! This dude is bad ass.
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>>84507240
Factually wrong, 1000% gay. Plastic will always be superior.
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>>84507283
Yes, cheaper material with lower quality details is totally superior.
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>>84507280
>titanicuck mite calling anyone a tourist
Your stay is over refugee, go back to shitskinistan.
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>>84507274
Yeah they outlawed it. GW special rape squads are on their way to your location right now just because you mentioned it. I hope you have lube
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>>84507274
We don't know until we see the sprue.
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>>84507293
Plastic details are higher quality and the material is better. The only reason cuckedworld shat out piles of r*sin was cheap short run moulds.
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>>84507298
Caremad.
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>>84507315
No amount of buzzwords and autistic rage will make us graft the corpse of your long dead op to our general. It's over, so get over it. You don't put anything in the pot, so you don't deserve to eat from it.
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>>84507334
Caremad
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>>84507334
Post models.
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>>84507334
I hate to say it but he's right. You are caremad
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I don't even play it, but AT is great and part of the same HH setting. It belongs here, specially when their books cover many of the battles the Black Books didn't and are made by the same team lead by Andy Hoare.
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>>84507334
>>84507427
I don't care either way but making a fuss about AT, telling AT players to go to /gwsg/ et cetera, is a pointless exercise because they don't exist.
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>>84507272
>>84507334
100% correct and no amount of titanicel samefagging will change it.
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>>84507479
As an AT player: it really doesn’t matter. Game is at best in a lull right now. Posting on /gwsg/ isn’t the end of the world, and there hasn’t been much to post about anyway. It’s really funny how much one or two posters have continued their lone crusades against it though. Autists will get mad about anything.
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>>84507498
Speaking of samefagging…
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Kek. Youtubers get what they fucking deserve.
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>>84507551
>Heck I don't even care about Horus Heresy or Space Marines in general
Who ever this faggot is he deserves decimation and the so does the GW team that decided to bring a bunch of 40gay players to a 30k event.
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>>84507551
Play stupid games. Win stupid prizes.

I wonder how he explained this to his cuckoldress wife and her bull.
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>>84507479
there are dozens of us
Dozens!
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>>84507427
>>84507479
I play AT and frankly I would rather be in /gwsg/ because /hhg/ is a shit hole.
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>>84507632
Anon, he doesn't play 40K or AoS either. I dont think he even has an army for either game.
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>>84507632
That dude doesn't play 40k.
He plays maybe underworlds. He played WHFB as a minor. He plays ASOIAF. He doesn't even own a fully painted army.
He is just a leech making money off his 800+ Patreons and Twitch donations.
Stop posting about him. He isn't/hhg/ relevant.
The Outer Circle guy is a fat fag but at least he is only about 30k content. He is relevant to hhg discuss
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>>84507634
What?
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>>84507551
Who is the cunt so I can spam racial slurs on his videos?
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>>84507274
Not in one kit but you can always buy 2
It's not like you are wasting the other one by makign it full ranged
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>>84507551
I'm not one to defend GW but jfc how retarded do you have to be to repetedly break an NDA you just signed that last 24h
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>>84506806
A question for anyone who paints minis;

I'm painting some yellow Space Marines, and i'm having trouble getting the bright yellow i'm looking for. After using a couple of layers of Averland Sunset I get a color i'm happy with but before I put 2-3 layers it looks a little like watered down Mac N' cheese. I'be been thinking of using one of Citadel's Base Coat rattle cans to do my base layer after the primer. Does anyone know if this is a good paint? How's the brightness?
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>>84507541
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>>84506970
Earlier I was mid way through paying for my order when they took down the Iron Hands transfer sheet, was pretty mad. Hope it returns because otherwise idk where tf to get good iron hand transfers otherwise.
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>>84507772
*I've been thinking
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>>84507689
He's a very literal basement cuck.
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>>84507551
I like the idea that a professional youtuber doesn't know how his phone or social media platforms work.
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>>84507772
Did you prime white?
Averland is a base coat the lighter yellows are going to be 'layer' paints.
GW rattlecans are fucking rip offs, literally by the rustolium equilivalent.
Alternatively, prime black, zenithal highlight with gray up to pure white, then use yellow inks.
But seriously: search on YouTube
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>>84507220
They're still visible on the catalogue, so I'd say it's a 50/50 between them actuall ybeing taken down and FW just being FW
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>>84506806
So would Mk6 WS best represent a Siege of Terra force?

They seem to be soft retconning the Siege defenders being in Mk7.
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>>84507798
Proofs?
I wouldn't out it past him, he looks and speaks like your quintessential nuMale but everyone calls everyone else a cuck. You cuck
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>>84507798
Post proofs
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>>84507772
Layer Yriel Yellow. Or unironically use contrast yellow and layer Yriel after.
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>>84507772
get army painter daemonic yellow spray
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>>84507852
Any rattlecan sold by a miniature painting company is overpriced and literally made by the same people who make normal rattle can paints.
They just slap a different label on there (and in Army Painters case go as cheap as possible on the nuzzle because Army Painter is a bunch of penny pinching... merchants.)
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>>84507816
Yeah I primed Wraithbone white. Are the rattle cans that bad? I know they have a reputation for being fucky.
>>84507843
I'll give that a shot.
>>84507852
ooo that is a nice shade of yellow, I might have to grab a can.
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>>84507772
Prime red-brown, zenithal white or bone, airbrush yellow ink or contrast paint.
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>>84507551
Who leaked the stuff? What channel?
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>>84507816
> Alternatively, prime black, zenithal highlight with gray up to pure white, then use yellow inks.

No, this reads as a green-yellow, you need a warm undertone for the shadows, not blue-black that ever black primer is.
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>>84507551
>sign contract with GW to become youtube shill
>get Warhammer World privileges
>break NDA
>get punished for breaking NDA
>somehow GW too harsh
>now considering other games besides GW
Why was he like this?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d88huqLw1Do
>17:20
>"Then we have a Raven Guard Deliverer, this one here in tartaros terminator armor. Yes, they had tartaros, for the person who argued with me in the comments weeks back."

He's calling (You) out, anon, can't let that slide.
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>>84507943
Lmfao he’s such a massive faggot. This just shows what a huge and fragile ego he has
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>>84507816
>prime black, zenithal highlight with gray up to pure white, then use yellow inks
Yellow over black will just produce a really nasty dirty green shade. Better to prime in brown and highlight up via a tan shade rather than grey.
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>>84507943
>for the person who argued with me in the comments weeks back
>weeks back
I'm not sure if I should laugh at how petty he is or feel bad for how sad things are for him. Essentially having to get angry and whine and complain on Youtube for youtube bucks and then it bleeds into his personality or maybe he was always like this.
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>>84506806
Were all White Scars terminators ebon keshig or was it just a few?
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>>84507890
Rattle cans aren't bad in and of themselves.
It is just that any rattlecan sold by a miniatures painting company is upcharged 70% for generally less volume than NORMAL spray paint from the main brands.
Seriously. Almost every 'hobby tool' from GW, army painter, whatever is just the same tool, paint, etc that is upcharged a lot and then sold to miniature painters who don't know any better
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>>84507935
All the dude did was shit on GW 70% of the time he mentioned them, its not like this is news.
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>>84507989
Just the few in the Ebon Keshig 'suicide' squads they had normal terminators like every other legion
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looks cool
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>>84507943
Wasn't the point that the Deliverers had no precedent for what colour they wore, and him being wrong about them having to be black?
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based or cringe?
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>>84508094
Cringe, it's not even an attempt to be right.
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>>84508094
Well painted.
These look like they were made pre Black Books Assault on Black Reach (or Battle of Macragge) push fits so it's not like the resin shit was available.
Basing is kinda distracting from the models and I think marines are too crowded on 25mm bases.
Nice work
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>>84508094
Thanks, I fucking hate it
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Tips for free handing destroyer squad markings? Doesn't look to be transfers for them and I'm not sure how to free hand it without potentially fucking up and messing up the armour's airbrushed gradients which I can't fix by hand.
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>>84506956
Sussy bakas fr fr no cap.
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>>84506956
>how do you do, fellow kids.jpeg
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>>84508220
Most of the Legion transfer sheets AFAIK included destroyer markings.

That said, if they're actually being pulled for GW repackaging/redesign, then you might be out of luck until later this year most likely. Practice steadying your wrist I guess.
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>>84508092
it was about him using a photo of a random terminator sergeant out of Book3 and saying it was a deliverer
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>>84508220
Destroyer marking is basically one big circle with three smaller circles of the color beneath it at the edges. So paint one big circle, then three dots at the right spots and done.
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>>84506956
Whoever wrote that article needs to be fucking fired. This is a pseudo-historic wargame made for neckbeards, not a 2012 montage parody.
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>>84508314
>is
Was.
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>>84506956
Article link, please?
This isn't 2012-2014 where MLG montage parodies were popular.
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>>84508094
Would be based if they were like A Tactical squad of Blood Ravens after Magnus the Red goes Loyalist, and they return as his "Legion".
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>>84508331
Is. HH is still a niche within a niche within a niche, not something Jerry McNormalfag plays with his wife and kids on a Saturday night.
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>>84507551
No way it was an accident, He was trying to get and edge on other youtubers and got caught. Fuck em.
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>>84508314
>>84508391
Not anymore. Tick tock, chuds
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>>84507989
Keshig are elite specialised WS units, they're like 1% of all the infantry and bikers in the legion.
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>>84508094
Based, I like to imagine this is a scenario where the furfag gets corrupted or possessed while attempting to assassinate Horus, his legion falls and TS get vindicated and switch over to loyalist side. Fast forward, it's now Scouring era and they're purging Fenris.
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>>84508073
Liking the reddish shade of pink for the 1kS. Breath of fresh air next to the candy reds,
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>>84508046
Army painter is whatever the fuck it is, but the primer in GW cans is 100% not the same as the primer in a rustoleum or krylon can. GW primer can be stripped with rubbing alcohol, krylon & rustoleum primer can't.
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>>84508274
That was the video of him being mad about GW being wrong with red RG deliverers yes.
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>>84506956
Based, miss pullin trickshot on CoD
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>>84508094
Looks like they’re based to me anon, maybe you need your eyes checked?
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So, now transfers are removed from FW's site completely. And ebay prices will skyrocket.
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>>84508575
GW cans are not primer, they're regular acrylic paint. They used to make Imperial Primer, that was the real thing, but it got dropped somewhere around 7e, iirc. The reason was it didn't sell, everyone bought other brands and GW cut their losses.
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>>84506806
You know what i like in this picture ? They have their fucking helmet. Yeah call me helmetsperg but fig are so much more convincing with a helmet.
More menacing.
More inhuman.
More threatening.
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are there actually any official depictions of chaplains outside of the calth guy?
pic unrelated
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>>84508826
There was Charmosian, a traitor EC chaplain, in card game or visions artwork. He already had dark armour and a skull helmet at Istvaan.
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>>84508680
Chaos black and corax white are primers. Theyre not etching primers, but they are primers none the less.
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>>84508990
Seems like the armor is still purple but there's definitely a skull helmet
Guess I'll have to figure out a better way to differentiate a NL chappy
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>>84509048
The shoulder pad is purple, but the rest is black.
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>>84509025
They are base paints, not primers.
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>>84509151
looks purple to me mate
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Guys, I already have a /my dudes/ army for 40k that are basically the Iron Warriors colors but I want to do IW in HH because I know someone who is doing IF. What do I do? Use the same colors and just damn it all or actually have some palette variation with another legion?
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>>84509249
Do you like the colour scheme and find it nice to paint?
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>>84509249
Assuming /yourdudes/ don't have hazard stripes, go heavy with them for your IW to differentiate. Alternatively, go Alpha Legion instead, since they had some pretty famous matchups with the Fists.
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>>84506956
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>>84509160
The sprays are primers you fucking retard.
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>>84507551
The fact that I don't even know who the fuck this is is reassuring to me
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>>84508575
>>84508680
>>84509160
QRD?
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>>84509499
They aren't, the formula is different. Stay silent you brainlet.
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>>84509578
Primers stick to surfaces much better and don't rub off, paints do. Primers also make paint cover better, giving you a good result with less coats.
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>>84509583
> the formulas are different
Yeah and latex and enamel primers have different chemical formulations too retard. They bond to the surface and allow paint to bond to them. They are primers.
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>>84509606
Well chaos black is pretty close to that, unlike their various color sprays
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>>84509578
They're not primers, gw has never made primer. Auto primer is a totally different substance that doesn't chip or flake, can be sanded, and takes much longer to fully cure.
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>>84509672
Put down the goalposts, you claimed GW's spray paints are primers and were exposed as a retarded newnigger. Stfu and don't bitch.
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>>84509710
> nuh uh
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So for someone without an airbrush, what rattle primers do y’all use?
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>>84510010
Cheapest stuff I can find in the hardware store.
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>>84510010
Mr hobby primer, it usually comes in small cans but is very high quality and dries quickly.
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>>84510105
Yeah, mr.surfacer is great.
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>>84510010
I use this, the grey version is good too. The white version isn't as good. Just make sure you get the primer and not paint+primer or it will be too thicc
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>>84510010
for primer I like hycote the most as it seems to leave much lighter/thinner coats than other can sprays i've tried.
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>>84507551

>I fucked up big time but what do you guys think?

Lmao fuck that piece of shit
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>>84510220

Who's this guy ?
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>>84510248
Some literally who (((influencer))) who "leaked" all the HH reveals a day before the event
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>>84510140
its almost impossible to find it without the paint these days. luckily, the paint + primer is not that much thicker and ive used it without issue.
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>>84508680
>Imperial Primer
So what's the closest brush on primer to the discontinued Imperial Primer?
I'm always up for a good brush on primer backup if the weather does not permit rattlecan priming.
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>>84509300
It's simple to paint, that's for sure.

>>84509327
Going hard on chevrons and hazard stripes would definitely separate them, yes. AL is an option too. I'm so indecisive on a legion. I guess that's why I went Mechanicum before.
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>>84507819
Yes to your first question.

The lore from 1990 onward had Terra start manufacturing Mk VI after Mars fell. After Horus's initial gains throughout the galaxy, Mk IV became difficult to make and most places were slapping together Mk V suits. Terra was making Mk VI for the loyalists and Mars for the traitors (with difficulties shipping them out; I assume they faxed instructions to other forge worlds).

The three defending legions at Terra (plus the SW) were being equipped with Mk VI for most of their time there. Very near the start of the Siege, Mk VII entered production. I doubt there was enough of it to displace all the Mk VI everyone already had. I don't really expect that to be retconned.
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>>84510494
Not sure how it compares to Imperial Primer, but I've had a pretty good experience with Liquitex Black Gesso
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>>84510124
Yeah. Just be sure to get surfacer and not "finishing surfacer", that shit is basically the same as GW's paint cans.
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>>84508625
They're in Mk VII.

Very nice paint job, though.
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>>84508094
More like Post-Heresy and Pre-Rubric.
Speaking of which, how much time passed between the end of the heresy and the rubric?
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Impulse bought some more models to turn into black shields even tho I never finished painting the squad I made a year ago
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>>84510653
>Blackshields
My condolences.
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>>84510496
>AL is an option too.
I personally love how AL look, and their color scheme is canonically very flexible (gray, flat blue, metallic blue, light or dark blue, purple, greenish, amaranth...). They're also a better fit for Mk VI; they had it even at the start of the Heresy. Oh, and under the old rules, AL could take one special unit from any other legion and everyone took IW Siege Tyrant Terminators.

On the downside, it's impossible to figure out what their intentions were during the Heresy. I find them hard to get into in that sense.

If you like the IW and stick with them, go lighter or darker than your 40k army. Wash with blue if your current army is warmer in tone. Try a new paint style. Base them differently, too.
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>>84510632
>Post-Heresy and Pre-Rubric
When did they go blue, because there's depictions of them in blue during the Heresy?
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>>84507551
>consumer

What a cuck
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>>84510684
There's no real concrete answer to that. In the Ahrimal novel series it's shortly before he goes and gather resources to cast his Rubric.
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>>84510668
I honestly don’t care if they get squated I’ll still just use some other legions rules
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>>84506956
Whoever is writing these articles deserves to have their entrails scattered around the carpark in Nottigham.
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>>84506956
>>84511143
this is a serious game about a giant golden man creating children who rebel against him because bad dreams told them everything was a lie
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>>84510540
>gesso
I'll do some reading on it then.
I've seen ArmyPainter's brush primer and I know that Coat D'arms makes a brush primer but I haven't looked into gesso.
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>>84511288
Your meme usage is almost as bad, but you're not writing articles on the official site.
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>>84511288
>bro its a fictional game and over the top setting so it cant be taken seriously in any way!
why the fuck do so many people use this argument whenever someone says something regarding warhammer is shit or not fitting to the overall aesthetic of the setting/game. Warhammer has never been completely open ended
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>>84511401
>>84511143
>Warhammer is too silly
>UM ACKSHUALLY THE FLUFF IS SUPER FUCKING GRIM AND SERIOUS
>Warhammer is too grim
>UM ACKSHUALLY THE FLUFF IS SUPER FUCKING SATIRICAL AND IRONIC
The Warhammer Paradox
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>>84511427
>Warhammer has it's own style and balance of serious and comedic elements and shouldn't be using dated internet memes
Your response?
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>>84506806
How much is this box gonna cost bros?
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>>84511288
Ebbin dabberino on the trolls, browski.
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>>84511457
Less than £200, according to GW.
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>>84511444
>shouldn't be using dated internet memes
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>>84511427
The setting has moments for comedy despite the grimdark being focal (or was focal), but using modern day memes in your articles for a game whose community is mostly like 30 year old dudes that prefer the more serious and narrative stuff is a little out of touch in my opinion. These type of jokes are trying to appeal to the literal (man)children that entered warhammer as a whole like 1-2 years ago and just spout memes and retarded shit nonstop that they saw on youtube videos after watching the astartes animation or something. It's the complete wrong audience for HH, though I doubt the community article writers know that to be fair
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>>84511444
>Warhammer has it's own style and balance of serious and comedic elements and shouldn't be using dated internet memes in official articles or material.
Memery is a fandom thing and should be kept separate from the company's voice.
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>>84511491
Yes.
>shouldn't be using dated internet memes
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>>84511469
And not limited edition, so it should be easy to get 20% off, not bad.
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I think that it's a waste of time and brain energy to get mad about an advertisement, but that's just me
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>>84511563
have you forgotten where you are, anon?
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>>84511401
Azur Lane/Battlefleet Gothic collab when?
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>>84511577
I am not sure how to feel about this
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Post WIPs
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>>84511700
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>>84511700
>>84511713
Dese niggas got da green
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>>84507943
>>84507951
>>84507968
>>84507968
Hes always like this if you critique anything he will make a large post to his community about it and justify it and say you are wrong.

I did it before when I was an actual fan of his I had fucking people reply to me for weeks defending their precious macca guys a cult leader.
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Got my oils on today, what’re you guys working on?
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>>84506956
>>84511143
>>84511288
>>84511401
Id go to far to say this is not entirely GWs fault its the fault of a fanbase of unchecked memes. TTS and its damage to the fandom has been irreparable.
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>>84511834
Those looks awesome anon.
Good work.
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>>84511845
There was a time people would even go as far to say GW was too tryhard with the grimdark so this is what happens.
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>>84511834
Did a few SoHs
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>>84506910
Might want to go a little less on the lightning. The lines are a little too thick, but the more pressing issue is that you have too much of it. Having the lightning on every piece, or nearly every piece, makes them look a little cluttered.
As for converting, I love the look of NLs with mixed armour marks. I feel like it fits their character well, but getting anything other than the plastic kits can be difficult these days.
You could get that box of skulls GW has. It's actually a pretty good deal. If you are confident with your green stuff skills, you could make it look like the skulls are lashed to belts and such.

Overall, though, those look pretty nice. Good shade of blue.
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>>84511852
Thanks!
>>84511906
These are great!
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>>84506806
Does receiving White Scars geneseed turn you Asian in the same way Salamanders geneseed turns you black as coal with red eyes and Night Lord turns you into an albino freak?
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>>84511834
been striping my knight
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>>84511494
>but using modern day memes in your articles for a game whose community is mostly like 30 year old dudes
Those memes are 10 years old, they are way more likely to get a laugh from someone in their late 20s/early 30ks than a 16 year old
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>>84511969
No.
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>>84511969
Geneseed does have the effect on some marines to give them an appearance closer to their primarch, like little Horus. So I guess yea, some would turn more asian. But WS recruit from an Asian world to begin with so not much difference
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>>84511969
>be White
>get Khan's geneseed
>become hapa
>side with Horus
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>>84507227
unless the 2.0 rules say otherwise, it is a good tank. Also: the resin kit was shit, plastic can only be better.
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>>84512140
There's plenty of arguments for infantry/MC's etc having better detail in resin, but holy fuck, vehicles going to plastic is an actual god send.

You lose no details and life becomes x500 times easier. No god awful mold slips in the treads, no heat gunning thick slabs of resin, thank christ.
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>>84511969
You can grow to look more like your primarch, but Khan apparently doesn't look that Asian. He's not from Chogoris afterall.
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>>84512289
>Khan apparently doesn't look that Asian.
It varies.
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>>84511906
Eh
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>>84512303
>>84512289
I say that as someone who would be perfectly fine with Khan looking like a straight up Bing Chilling Han Chinese too, although Jason Mamoa Khan is a neat enough take.
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>>84511906
>vexilla on the heavy guy
I guess he either lifts like mad or the squad just shoves everything onto him.
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>>84511969
No.
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>>84511906
Are we just using straight CSM now?
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Welp, I just made a deal with the devil. Trying to get my buddy to start up 2.0 with me to get him away from 40k. He wants me to do the opposite since he's already got an army made.
So after some back and forth I agreed that if he invests into heresy, AND they reintroduce another loyalist primarch, I will make a 40k army based on his guys. Won't be doing primaris and that's final. Maybe I'll throw him a curve ball and make it 5th edition.
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>>84512354
Hate to break it to you, but by the siege pretty much everyone except iron warriors and alpha legion are straight CSM. Mortarion is literally his plastic daemon prince model by then.
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>>84512303
Holy shit that horse is huge
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>>84512277
Yeah, highly detailed character models is what resin shines at. Not large vehicles lol
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>>84512125
>>84512001
I’m already a little on the finngolian side of things so I’d be worried I’d have to fully chink my eyes to ride with the Khan
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I want to buy Khan but my existing WS army is decisively Chogorian Brotherhood and has literally no one in it on foot.

I'm thinking about starting IF with the new box set, should I get Dorn or that incredibly awesome IF tartaros praetor?
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>>84512063
The little Khan just sounds like what Jhagati would call his penis
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>>84512362
I wonder if the upcoming World Eaters for 40k will be marketed as cross compatible
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>>84512362
But the DG aren't the 40k DG.
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>>84512303
Ivan Slavski is a freelancer. They get things wrong.
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>>84512439
Siege DG are straight up plague marines, although they arguably wouldn't have the modern 40k daemon engines yet.
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>>84512354
Emperor’s Children are full Slaanesh by the Dropsite Massacre, Fabius Bile has already surgically fucked with everyone and the first noise marines show up then
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>>84511969
veteran legionaries would resemble thier primarch more closely as time passed
>>84512453
every pic from the new meet the white scars page shows a similar Khan, same thing for art from the TCG
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>>84512418
He’s getting a bike model Soon(tm)
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>>84512473
No they don't and nor does the new mini. There's no argument here as the primarchs are all the same ethnicity and it's not an east asian one.
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>>84512507
Why did this meme start? No one said this until khan’s dogshit model came out with a dogshit face - just like krole’s long horse face as point of fact. Fulgrim was also poorly sculpted. Woo hoo.
Fuck, khan isn’t even the only primarch described as being non-white.
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>>84512507
Why would the primarchs be any recognizable ethnicity at all?
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I cant fucking pick a legion how do u guys do this shit
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is it worth reading the 1e rulebook or should I just wait for the new ones? complete newfag to horus heresy as a ruleset but the style of play and more narrative/hobby focused community sounds more my thing than whatever clusterfuck esports retarded writer shit 40k is currently
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>>84512594
What's your favorite color?
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>>84506956
>>84511143
>>84509488
the ride never ends
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>>84512594
Read a little about each and go with your favorite based on tactics, culture, or their primarch. That or just pick your favorite color.
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>>84512597
No. You should read the “black books” as these have a ton of information about the history, heraldry, temperament, organisation and methodology of each legion, alongside information about certain campaigns during the heresy. Pick a legion and start with their section
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>>84512605
Orange or Pastel pink. To be fair though I like all the legion colors.
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>>84512594
Dubs pick legion

IW
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>>84512594
I went with the legion I liked the most from the BL stuff and their blackbook sections.

Blackbook lore is so much better quality than ordinary GW writing, it's not even funny.
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>>84512615
that does sound like a better idea, thanks anon
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>>84512624
AL
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>>84512594
Read the books first or just play shattered legions
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>>84512560
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>>84512594
Easy. I pick the best one.
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>>84511906
>sawn-off autocannon
Space niggers to the end.
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>>84512650
Ok faggot.
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>>84512650
Like I'm just saying, the primarchs are genetic monstrosities pulled from every possible thread of gene tapestry available to man, you'd be lucky if they looked vaguely Eurasian if they all had to be one specific race.
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>>84512594
>best scheme both pre and post heresy
>psykers up the ass
>best lore
its so easy broe
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>>84512653
Fuck off ALtard, you're mediocre at best.
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>>84512616
>Orange
Is digger yellow an acceptable compromise?
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>>84512653
Was it true that the Utlramarines during the Horus Heresy had more personality to them compared to 40k where they were simple "DA BESTEST OF DA BEST SPESS MARINEZ?"

What do the 30k Ultramarines get right that their 40k counterparts (including most of their successors) get wrong?
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>>84512694
>What do the 30k Ultramarines get right that their 40k counterparts (including most of their successors) get wrong?
Nothing, 40k Ultramarines are also based and disliked only by lowly contrarian plebeians.
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>>84512437
All that matters is if they'll have tons of bare arms. That will make things so much easier.
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>>84512694
Yes they were solidly Space Romans with a very strict command structure and rigid overlapping tactics and they used all the super Roman looking 30k accessory bits to their fullest.

>What do the 30k Ultramarines get right that their 40k counterparts (including most of their successors) get wrong?
They aren't really vanilla, SoH or Fists are the vanilla of 30k imho.
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>>84512678
>the primarchs are genetic monstrosities pulled from every possible thread of gene tapestry available to man
Source?
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>>84512735
>Source?
They're the pinnacle of the Emperor's genecraft, that's how they were made.
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>>84512594
3d20. 2, 11, 20 are rerolled. Choose from the abridged list.
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What marine body part would be thick/thin enough to be fit their in the horn's place to be held inside that hand? wrist?
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>>84509488
Man whenever corporations try to get hip with the kids it always comes off as stupid.
Do you think the writer was actually giggling at these jokes or do you think this is deliberate to tone down the seriousness of 30k?
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>>84506956
is it some kind of meme? I don't get the reference
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>>84512756
Topknot? Chains? Clothe? Straps? Dick?
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>>84512594
>ethos
>favored tactics
>character
>livery
I went with SoH (before HH 2.0 mind you) because I liked the gang-tribe culture, the non-standard livery, and the potential to use chaos bitz

>>84512624
WE

>>84512756
dick
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>>84512750
They're made from the genetic material of the Emperor and Erda. Sam Egan even gave the minis similar facial features to show a family resemblance. They're literally all brothers. Also the idea that the Asian primarch was sent to the Asian planet and the African one to the African planet lmao.
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>>84512757
I can promise you that lands with a LOT of people, very loud people at that.
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>>84512792
Horus is African? Cthonia is an African planet?
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>>84512594
AL, Coils an Iron Warriors unit, paint it like DA with checkerboards, Coils a Raven Guard unit, paint it like Death Guard, etc etc, little bits of armor autism wroooong here and there on every unit

"The Adventures of OMFGon"

play like a retard, win like a retard, cunning like a retard, distraction is a gift from Alpharius
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>>84512792
Sam Egan is shit at sculpting faces and you’re a faggot + retard
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>>84512788
>WE
>88
Sugoi
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>>84512792
>Also the idea that the Asian primarch was sent to the Asian planet and the African one to the African planet lmao.
To be fair, in the far distant future the majority of humans should be some sort of Eurasian, South Asian or African mixed mutt.

I don't know why "Nightmare Future You'd Never Want to Live In" is also somehow the /pol/ white supremacists dream. Kind of a self own.
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>>84512807
Why are you so dedicated to being wrong. This shit is literally in print. Just read it.
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>>84512796
>that lands with a LOT of people, very loud people at that.
I actually don't know what group of people you're talking about.
The kind of consumers that always show their mouths wide open to discomforting levels?
Or is there a different group?
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>>84512594
Yeah I can't either
Legions I'm interested in are
>death guard
>salamanders
>iron warriors
>imperial fists
>dark angels
>ultramarines
>blood angels
>thousand sons
>word bearers
>alpha legion
Feels bad man
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>>84512831
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>>84512624
DG
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>>84512869
How is that copium
Like, wouldn't a grimdark nightmare future be full of unwashed brown masses?
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>>84512849
You’re just making shit up and it’s gay.
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>>84512796
>I can promise you that lands with a LOT of people, very loud people at that.
Nah it comes off as really out of touch since they fucked up the wording, it should be 720 noscope
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>>84512594
I found myself with an extremely large number of noise marines bits so Slaanesh chose me, I’ll be doing 3rd company for my RoW
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>>84512792
>They're made from the genetic material of the Emperor and Erda
Kinda sorta right, a little. Lots of changes were made
>this means they’re all white!!!
Erda is definitely not white and the emperor was born in Anatolia before the first cities were constructed. He certainly isn’t Anglo/yuro and his only artistic depictions don’t really look anything like the rest of the primarchs
>Also the idea that the Asian primarch was sent to the Asian planet and the African one to the African planet lmao.
like the magic one landing on the magic planet and the technophile landing on the technology planet and the doggy one landing on the doggy planet that is full of the only humans that can stably react to his geneseed? They land there because chaos is meme magic. There’s a notable fact about khan relating to that which I don’t expect a tard to know,
>proof that the emperor muddled with their DNA?
Besides the outright stating of that fact? He put red rocket DNA in his special (ed) boy and made another extra magical and then he made one able to turn invisible to humans and another one he made immortal and coal black with red eyes.
>they’re all white!!!!!
Even the ‘white’ ones have lots of variance in phenotypes you wouldn’t expect from brothers - just compare kurze and sangy. But off the top of my head, Ferrus Manus was described as of a darker skin tone, more of a brown, and Lorgar was golden brown in skin tone (presumably like many peoples in Egypt), and Abnett describes alpharius as being coppery in skintone (iirc, been years since I read legion), not to mention the notable pale ghostly white of Corax or the meme ones like Magnus The Color That Isn’t White and Vulkan. Btw, there are plenty of physical descriptions of khan in books and he’s not an epic Anglo in those either.
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By how late in the Heresy would shits and mutations gone down this far?
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>>84512863
Roll a d10
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>>84512558
>>84512560
All the primarchs are caucasian like their father, they even reaffirmed this with the black book art of the khan. It's only you weird racist weirdos who think the Khan is asian, or Vulkan is african.
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>>84513068
Mid-late siege of Terra. Unless you’re talking WB which would be pretty much any time after calth or SoH which would be any time after molech, though they had a pretty big cultural divide on whether daemons were based or cringe. DG were uncorrupted until the siege when they arrived late and more corrupt than pretty much anyone. EC were corrupted as fuck almost immediately but they didn’t look like that, really.
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>>84513105
>they even reaffirmed this with the black book art of the khan.
The blackbook art of the Khan is based on Jason Mamoa who's a pacific islander.
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>>84513105
>emperor
>Caucasian
Kek’d
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>local guy is 1:1 copying my color scheme and paint method
>looks much worse than mine
feels good still being king of the paintlets
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>>84512653
I should do UM simply for the fact that I have a million of their transfers already thanks to 40k stuff.
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>>84512796
Memers are on the same level as tourneyfags and those with the tourneyfag mentality with people who I never want to interact with at the store.

t. FLGS employee
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Do you think I could make some convincing templar brethren out of the upcoming plastic Mk6 if I go hog wild with templar bits?

The shields with the Imperial Fist superimposed on the Templar cross might be a little challenging, but the shoulders are all either Fists or Templars respectively, which makes that part easy.
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>>84506883
Gal Vorbak and Argel Tal
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>>https://youtu.be/BDu8osXacvYT
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Do you guys get unusually autistic about seeing mismatches between stats and how a model looks
I played a mechanicum guy with an archmagos malagra with machinator array and it was wysiwyg except for the fact that it was skinny as fuck. The thing is supposed to be T6 W4 but it was practically a modified skitarii
Is my autism terminal?
kinda pic related, about that size
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>>84512507
>>84512558
I just wanted the mini to look like the art. Not like a Northern European egghead with a sad excuse for a mustache.
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>>84513274
If only someone could predict that Sam Egan couldn’t sculpt faces and often gave people weird elongated heads
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>>84513176
yeah that could work. 30k IF look like yellow templars anyway half the time
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>>84513038
>full of the only humans that can stably react to his geneseed?
I'm not the dumbass your arguing with, but another anon made this claim and it is false according to the Blackbooks. The SW despite previously having a high fatality rate was one of most accepting stains of geneseed due in part to the Canis Helix and the top of the line genetic facilities they were given after Russ was found. There was no single root society or culture amoung the Terran recruits and It's size was small during the beginning because selection was done on an individual basis from the "most barbarically regressive and hyper-violent cultures and outcast or Pre-unifacation Terra" it was also seen as the most diverse genetically for initial intake. After Russ came into the picture fatal rejections dropped dramatically and to boost the recruitment population they shipped people to fenris. It has nothing to do with the native people of Fenris and everything to do with Russ and the Fang.
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>>84513372
Huh, I could have sworn there was something on Fenris that made their particular strain of moron more compatible with doggy geneseed but if I’m wrong I’m wrong
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>>84513468
That's because that's how 40k acted until Cawl "fixed" it
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>>84513038

it's funny because Chaos magick is litteraly meme magic in real world occultism.
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>>84513468
the thing that is needed is the cup of wulfren. which they only have 1 of, on Fenris, so they can only realistically recruit there unless they sent aspirants back there to undergo the trials.
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>>84513468
there was, he was called the wolf King and despite his absence his presence can still be felt there to this day.
Reading the lore for the SW was interesting and I found it funny because I didn't bothering going into it until shortly after people were sperging about blacks on the cover of the 40k SW book.
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>>84513068
Your pic isn't mutations, it's variant mk5 and mk4 helmets with added crests.
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>>84512863
Wall autists will give you butt aids and DA/AL will make you the target of gay memeing. That takes four off the list.
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>>84513738
AL's 2.0 rules are oddly nonspecific and seem way more focused on stealing other Legion's units/abilities than Mutable Tactics ever was before.
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Anybody got a coloring template like pic related but for cataphractii?
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>>84514145
Wasn't there an app that essentially allowed for the Horus Heresy marine templates to be used? They essentially are practically all recolours of one single PNG template. Anybody got the originals covering all the armour patterns?
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>>84514154
Do you mean this one?
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Is there a respository of the audiobooks outside of the 1-54? Primarchs series, character series, Siege of Terra series, etc?
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>the asian primarch lands on the planet of the asian people
>the black primarch lands on the planet of the black people
>the psychic primarch lands on the planet of the psychic people
>the primarch who is literally part dog lands on a planet where there are dogs that are literally part man
>the gay primarch lands on the planet of closeted homosexuals
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>>84513272
Yes of course. If someone told me that was T6 I’d tell them to fuck off
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>>84514287
I hear you, man. Chaos Gods are racist.
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>>84514176
No I mean the armor as they would appear in the Imperial Armour Horus Heresy books. I've seen edits of them from recolours to accessories added and I am not sure if an app was made/leaked or if autists actually managed to git gud at a cracked photoshop or GIMP.
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>>84506806
Is ForgeWorld going to be eventually phased out and closed down by GW?
Seems to me that the creative drive behind it being Alan Bligh has caused FW to lose purpose and identity along with plastic miniatures becoming nearly as detailed as resin miniatures meaning that FW's whole aspect of large models with incredible detailing is fading away.
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>>84514396
Yes it’s going away forever and you should kill yourself too
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>>84514145
These are the only Horus Heresy templates I know of:
http://wyrmlog.wyrmworld.com/tag/template/
https://www.deviantart.com/comradecamel/art/40k-Terminator-Armor-template-889815718 <- Only Terminator one, and it's Tartaros.
https://www.deviantart.com/40kresources/gallery

>>84514332
>if autists actually managed to git gud at a cracked photoshop or GIMP.
I'm pretty sure I know what ones you're talking about, and the ones I know were just photoshopped.
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>>84509488
thats cute though
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>>84514287
none of these people exist in 40k. Its post modern
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>>84512594
Who gets the coolest toys
who's got the raddest color scheme
just by asking these two questions you can toss out half the legions
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>>84514633
Sons of Horus, of course.
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>>84514650
see how easy that was?
It was the wrong answer but it's still an answer
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>destroyers without jump packs come back
>literally unplayable
nice game, grogtards.
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>>84514733
Sons of Horus are the coolest and strongest legion, sorry.
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>>84514852
Sons of Horus are pretty fucking lame, Anon.
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>>84514798
>mkVI is 7' tall
>mkIV destroyer is 6'7"

phosphex clearly gives you shitty bones
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>>84514396
They're working on The Old World now, the WHFB reboot that the Total War games drummed up interest for.
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>>84514798
Holy shit not the heckin millimeterinos!!!!
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>>84513038
Who do you think occupied anotolia?
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>>84512792
> and Erda
Retcon trash
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>>84512831
No, populations don’t converge the do the opposite
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>>84515102
He would predate the indoeuropeans and Hittites by several Millenia.
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>>84507256
I really like this idea. Thanks anon.
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>>84514798
Destroyers are a meme
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>>84514798
Oh no! In this superimposed photo one is 2mm taller than the other. Better kill myself.
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Its hard deciding what to do with the upcoming box set especially with the Traitors half. I love the Sons of Horus color scheme but I hate Abbadon and after the Heresy the Legion becomes his bitch boys so its kind of hard get interested in them. I like the Thousand Sons but it feels weird to have them wearing MK.VI considering they were almost wiped out and barely did anything during the Heresy.

Probably will paint them as Word Bearers or Emperor's Children since the other Traitors have things about them that make me uninterested in getting invested in them. Iron Warriors are too autistic. Alpha Legion has become too ridiculous and memey. Just don't care for HH era World Eaters. Death Guard are interesting but I don't care for Mortarion and they looked better with the no longer available FW upgrade kits. Night Lords are too psycho and edgy.
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>>84514798
It's almost like beakies don't belong in Heresy.
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>>84506806
Either Scars or Ravens.
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do you think anyone would mind if I put a mystery nigga on my DA praetors base
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>>84515773
Yes.
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>>84515512

You don't belong in the Heresy
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>>84515773
>do you think anyone would mind if I put a mystery nigga on my DA praetors base
picrel

>>84515796
whats the issue bitch tits?
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>>84515492
Emperor’s Children look great. Pimp out that Spartan!
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>>84515918
>against chaos
>before heresy
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Dubs decide the traitor legion I paint up with the new box
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>>84515998
Go back to 40kg.
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>>84515998
Traitor Blood Angels
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>>84516004
Seconding this
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>>84515965
>>against chaos
>>before heresy
right because there was no chaos till Erebus pulled it out of Lorgars clenched arse
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>>84515998
World Eaters
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>>84516043
>>84516043
>>84516043
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>>84516012
Legions never encountered chaos daemons before heresy. They didn't know that chaos existed.
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>>84516050
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>>84516050
The Dark Angels encountered daemons before the Heresy. As did the Thousand Sons, I'm pretty sure.
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>>84516059
The Thousand Sons were straight up keeping daemons as pokemon
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>>84515796
Filthy abhumans get the rope.
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>>84516066
>>84516066
>>84516066

Proper new thread
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>>84515998
Iron Warriors
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Real new thread
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>>84516154
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