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What Transformers RPGs are there out there? I heard there was one officail one coming out soon. Did WotC ever make one?
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>>84371601
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>>84371601
It'll be Essence20 like the Power Rangers one when it comes out.

I've also made my own which you can find here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ul2hNWCnbGlsAyDmzAyupinPpykTO1Hh?usp=sharing

/tg/ seems to be a fan of it to some degree since I've seen two people who aren't in my group running or playing it.

Also my windblade kit finally shipped thank god.
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>>84371652
Interesting, thanks.
>https://jlschwennen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/lulureadytfrpg20.pdf
This one seems the most fleshed out.

>>84371748
What's Essence20? Is there any preview of it I could take a look at.
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>>84371601
A group of transformers (the party) or decepticons (also the party, party chooses one or the other), visits a world in which high concentrations of mechanical life have been detected only to discover they have somehow crossed the silly barrier and that the mechanical lifeforms they detected are all bosses and superbosses from the Parodius series. How long does it take the party, regardless of whether it's transformers or decepticons, to do any one of the following; A, die, B, go insane, C, loosen up a lot, or D, find a girlfriend.
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>>84371807
Essence20 is the system the Power Rangers RPG is built on and what hasbro intends to use for their GI Joe, Pastel Horse, and Transformers TTRPGs as well. They want a unified system for crossover games.

Roll20 has sheets for the Power Rangers game and I'm sure if you search the archives you can find an upload of the PR RPG.
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>>84371859
I have a series of mission prompts for GI Joe and a series of Ultraman opponents that could work for either Ultraman or Power Rangers, I'll post both if you're interested (both at once, in a single link that leads to a -bin).
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>>84371859
>Essence20
So how is it? Anyone played it yet and can provide a review? How is the same system going to work for Power Rangers, Ponies, Humans and Transformers?
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>>84371920
It probably works for those things because the relative range and meaning of the stat is different based on what is using the stat, for example in a human, dexterity is typically measured by the speed and accuracy of both limbs and fingers, while in a pony, dexterity might mean eye-foot coordination and ability to do things like prance and climb safely and accurately. I've never played it thats just what I think it might be like based on my understanding of stats and how they work more generally.
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>>84371920
It's a core system and It's.. fine but it's class-based which IMO absolutely does not fit power rangers or transformers.
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>>84371975
Classes could work for Transformers. They've all traditionally had these role designations, like "Scout" or "Assault Trooper" or "Engineer". Similar to army MOS.
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>>84372781
Yeah but it really hinders customization with how Essence20 does it and rumor has it alt mode is tied to class which is fucking pants on head retarded as far as I'm concerned.
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>>84372811
>rumor has it alt mode is tied to class
Oh, no! The writers are Functionalists! This will not stand! RISE UP!
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Lancer + Gaslands
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>>84372987
>lancer
Leave this thread and never come back again.
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>>84371962
That's fine if those are stand-alone games but doesn't work if they are supposed to be cross-play, ie, Transformers and GI Joes and Ponies in one game. In cross-play the stat ranges and definitions cannot be malleable; they need to be standardized on the same range of capability.
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>>84373900
Your point is taken, however, I've never actually played the system in question, I was merely guessing based on my knowledge of some rules and functions that apply more generally to that sort of stat.
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>>84371859
>Essence20
>pic related
Just look at this over-complicated shit. Why do designers do this? Who the fuck wants to roll 8 different dice and figure out which has the highest number to add to your total, when a single number is perfectly fine?
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>>84372987
Dumb commie.
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Recommend some good TF comics to me, I haven't read any since the 80s/90s.
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>>84374508
do you play 5e? Because your comment is kind of a 5e take. 5e has an optional rule called proficiency dice, where you roll a die and add it to your d20 roll instead of a flat number. It's supposedly what the designers wanted to go with in the first place
it's fun as fuck
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>>84371859
Some power rangers / ultraman kaiju villains.

Nebularo – Gaseous intelligence who is a rarely seen dimensional intruder
Infradaryo – life-aura consuming DEADLY monster from space icy blob-slug
Kemusembyo – highly radioactive very dangerous blob-slug monster
Syleen – humanoid woman with beak and wings instead of arms kaiju
Stygious – Medusid-jellyfish like entity with numerous psychic powers
Enhanzar – giant robot kaiju controlled by an evil scientist’s brain instead of a computer
Nexusous – germ-cloud entity that creates a kaiju form based on the most-evil life-forms around
Conchilyar – hugely poisonous conch kaiju
Xebolous – Crystaline being who both fights kaiju style and takes over worlds by growing bigger
Odaryo – Stamina depleting STENCH giving skunk kaiju
Bureinogon – Psychokinetic giant brain kaiju with false PSY powered kaiju-body of energized metal
Mandibulon – Hydra-like millipede Kaiju, one of the biggest and strongest Ultraman has ever faced
Debiroy – very powerful demon/gargoyle kaiju with many weird evil-magic abilities
Darkaioh – Sickle-claw mantis kaiju with mist breath that reanimates the dead
Vafar – western-dragon mythological seeming kaiju with numerous heads + breath weapons

I haven't done specific stats or powers because not really very familiar with essence20 just yet but I feel like they could work for either PR or UM.
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>>84374650
>I haven't read any since the 80s/90s.
Why not?
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>>84372811
Not to class, more like to race.
You get your origin, which is your alt-mode and gives you stat boosts, skill ranks, and some perk things.
The actual classes are more like your function in your team.
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>>84374508
I'm almost dreading the answer because I despise complication in tabletop game rules, my view is that the rules should each cover a very wide range of events within their purview and be relatively straightforward for a fast, easy to play rules-lite adventure game. But I have to ask, is it all that overcomplicated? Because I have a few pretty damn cool COBRAAAAAA peopleses that I'd love to get a chance to play as.

>Zero-Sum - numbers station operator, codes and ciphers unit, he wears a suit and hood similar to original cobra commander but it has numbers and letters and question marks all over it.
>Slow Burn - kyrgyz ex-soviet cosmonaut, many space and nuclear material relevant skills, flame thrower and all-weather heavy armor space suit.
>Deviator - numerous bio-sciences skills, he starts producing designer transplant limbs and zoanoids after a certain level, he wears a chainmail like body suit that's mostly featureless.
>The Skull - cybernetics and robotics expert, all 5 senses have been either enhanced greatly or completely replaced by something better, his name comes from the fact that having so much cybernetics on his head made all his head's hair fall out. He dresses like a medieval wizard without a hood or cap.

Theres also 3 women that I think would be fun in a storyline, albeit I don't intend to play as them, Ice Queen (arctic specialist, cobra commander's adult daughter, she wears white with fur ruffs), Crystal Star (mind control and propaganda specialist, she dresses like a weirdo gachaman / mega man villainess), and Fantasia (infiltration and spycraft expert, deadly ex GRU member, she wears a soviet-aesthetic version of snake-eyes outfit).

I have enough stuff to justify I think trying to run a game or two with it, I've just never known of a really good really well made system to do it with.
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>>84376081
That sounds better but how do you know this? Got a preview copy or something?

Cybertronian races are different from alt modes though and the latter not only are incredibly varied but a TF can change it several times if they wish.
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>>84376411
They had some sort of virtual con a while back that had some info.
And yeah, dunno how body swapping would work. (Using race as a starting point of similarity. The GI Joe game had your military service as the equivalent (with options for former civies as well)
I do recall there's some sort of class devoted to being a triple changer or something? A mode master I think it was.
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>>84376201
>is it all that overcomplicated?
Yes, it is overcomplicated to be rolling an extra 1-10 dice of different shapes, picking out the largest number, checking if any of those dice had the maximum number for their die size (eg, 8 on a d8) to confirm a critical and then adding that largest number to the TWO DICE YOU ALREADY ROLLED.

It's just needlessly complicated. Most other games deal with skill specializations by adding a +2 or one extra die or something simple like that.
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>>84377673
I think they meant it in a "are the rest of the rules that bad" way, not a "is it that bad" way.
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>>84376081
Still not a fan. Alt modes and weapons should be point buy and fully customizable instead of shoving you into a generic niche.
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>>84378263
Well it shouldn't be too hard to change bodies. Just a matter of noting the bonuses or whatever.
Now, weapons in the joe rpg I really enjoyed. While not point buy, they're pretty customizable, so you can end up with waterproof flamethrowers or surgical laser chainsaws.
Fits perfectly with the ridiculous shit transformers had for weapons, like kup's acid spewing laser musket.
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>>84377993
Yes that's what I meant, but I also meant it in the is it that bad way too.
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>>84378263
I don't think it's just a niche.
Optimus Prime's been a bat, car, cellphone, dinosaur, dragon, gorilla, jet, meteor-thing, pen, playstation, pony, power bank, shoe, teddy bear robot, train, and watch.
But even so, he's still gonna be a truck.
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>>84376201
Even though it's described as if it already happened, feel free to use these operations if you are reading this. This is a self reply.

Zero-Sum is one of only 3 cobra members who's identity is truly unknown, only 3 very senior people at Cobra know Zero-Sum's identity, and none at GI Joe know it. If he encounters Duke, he breadcrumbs that he is someone from Duke's past in scattered 1 sentence here 1 sentence there references in his dialog. Instrumental in operation Cargo Pants, an attempt to use shortwave to make Cobra sleepers snap and do mass shootings.

Slow Burn survived a partial fall from space, giving his body a weird twisted/melted aesthetic and covering around 74% of his body with scar tissue. While both he and his flamethrower are deadly in combat (particularly space combat), he is more usually used by Cobra as a nuclear materials officer or as a space-vehicle secondary crew trainer. Instrumental in operation Stardust, in which Cobra used a discontinued soviet rocket to threaten India with an intentional release of bovine hoof and mouth disease.

Deviator was once described by Destro as 'one of the most utterly evil and truly disgusting people I've ever met'. His 99% featureless chainmail suit and distorted voice are the stuff of nightmares. Typically used as a science officer, Deviator has sufficient military knowledge to be the chief officer of child soldier training camps and was instrumental in Cobra's use of those during Operation Blue, even turning some of the CHILDREN into zoanoids during said operation.

The Skull is the only member of Cobra other than Serpentor who has seen both Cobra Commander and Destro's face, as his completely replaced eyes are able to see through their disguises more than either CC or Destro would care to admit. Instrumental in operation Sheetrock, the creation of Ed-209 like robot bodies which drastically injured cobra warriors were placed into permanently.
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>>84378909
Hey, pretty cool, thanks. Do you have any ideas for Transformers missions?
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>>84378942
Sure. Here's a few just off the top of my head.

One of the prime Deceptors (major head of the whole faction level decepticons), named Steel Shadow, is on earth for reasons unknown and nefarious, Steel Shadow's main ability is that he can transform to copy your transformations, so for example if he was fighting Optimus SS would somehow transform into a similar truck to Optimus. Steel Shadow is on earth because he has been ousted from power, he is no longer a prime Deceptor, he is now simply a very powerful decepticon.

The transformers find themselves in a deadly race against time when a life form from space known as The Signal, which takes the form of repeating messages that overwhelm all communication traffic so completely and utterly every system in the world is doing nothing but sending the Signal afterward, is heading towards the earth at slower than light speed. The transformers must find a way to stop the entity from driving them insane and destroying them. Some characters would know that Cybertronian lore mentions the Signal, and says that it is a doomsday weapon used against Cybertron in the distant past.

The transformers find themselves in a bizarre situation in which their weaponry is mostly useless when a decepticon named Hardlight starts completely taking over the Internet. Hardlight will pretend he is completely virtual unless found out, Hardlight's actual transformed state is that of an extremely elite spy orbiter, and he is in space in orbit during the episode.

Something goes majorly wrong with Megatron, he now believes he is the roman emperor Caligula, and sets about rebuilding the 'great and eternal empire of moving-machines'. Despite this bizarre personality shift, Megatron's competence level didn't really dip very much at all, and several decepticons go along with it. Megatron slowly becomes more cruel vicious and pointlessly evil throughout the episode, alienating his own minions slowly.
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>>84377774
What’s going on here? Who’s this?
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>>84380197
It's the cover of a comic depicting Autobot Mini Vehicle Tailgate discovering he's gonna die of old age after only being alive around 6 months due to being in a coma for millions of years.
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>>84379037
Thanks, anon.
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>>84382595
No problem my friend. I'll post more later but unfortunately that's hours later minimum.
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>>84378942

The war went on for three million years anon, thats a massive range of things you could fit in.

>Autobots are sent to the water planet of Argon, home to the sentient coral people the Zoophyters as they have detected signs of a Decepticon outpost there, stirring up trouble. By the time they arrive the nukes are already flying as the Decepticon infiltration mission is close to phase 5.
>They have to find the Decepticons, put an end to the war, and prevent the Decepticons from going to phase 6.
>Phase 6 is where they pick up the phone and call Sixshot or Overlord to finish the survivors off.
>You don't want this to happen. You REALLY don't want this to happen.

>For your acheivements you get placed in an elite assault specialist team of Not!Wreckers led by a Tank form called Squash-Head. A mission to take and hold a vital communications hub starts to go south when his nemesis; Interceptor the Seeker-Sniper starts trying to pick you off one by one.
>He's been trying to kill Squash-head for about 750 thousand years at this point and he's getting a bit irate at his opponents persistance in survival.
>Then it turns out that it's NOT a Communications Hub you're trying to capture, it's the grave of a dead Titan called Dictatroplex.
>Except he's not dead.
>He was just forced into permanent stasis after he got infected with the Hate Plague
>Luckily both he and the spores are still dormant.
>Until someone wakes him up.
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>>84386859
>Phase 6 is where they pick up the phone and call Sixshot or Overlord to finish the survivors off.
LOL. This reads like drunk TF-posting. Is there a list of these phases?
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Is there a list of the most popular/famous planets in the Transformers universe somewhere?
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>>84382595
and 2 more as offered.

An antiquated threat returns from the ancient past of Earth to threaten the transformers and th decepticons. A robot intelligence trio named Tower (transform into a flying 7 floor tower bristling with weapons), Death (transform into a truly bizarre vehicle that looks like it is made of scythe blades and fly), and Sun (made in the image of an ancient deity), awake from a remote site in the Empty Quarter desert (saudi arabia's southern end), all 3 individually are a threat to earth, transformer, and decepticon. Worse yet, Sun is malfunctioning and believes it is actually a deity, and not just an insanely OP robot. Archeology at the approximately 3400 year old site in the 1920s disturbed a slow acting trap that opens the hangar doors to let these giant, REALLY dangerous robots out. The beings origin is inexplicable, but given their bizarre appearances and futuristic designs, they were most likely built by either time travelers from the very distant future, or, Annunaki aliens.

Mysterious, extremely advanced cities start slowly appearing on mars for no obvious reason, each one populated by an enigmatic race known as the Omegas. In actual fact these aliens are descended from humans and native to the twilight of the universe era. The aliens are around 170 years ahead of the transformers and decepticons, and many ages of time ahead of earth. All 3 factions don't know exactly what to make of the Omegas. They are enigmatic because they don't have language, gender, economy, war, religion, art, dance, or nations. Instead, they use telepathy, are made by a machine called The Brain of All Knowledge, view economy war and religion as completely pointless, and they are all neuters who's bodies and minds and DNA are the very best of both genders mixed together to make one sterile neuter being who doesn't have genitals. Earth, The Transformers, and The Decepticons must tread very carefully indeed to navigate this difficult problem.
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>>84391093
small clarification: Tower Sun and Death are released in current year, not the 1920s, the trap took that long to open the doors.
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>>84371807
>https://jlschwennen.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/lulureadytfrpg20.pdf
I played this briefly a long time ago. Sorry I don't have specifics, but watch for movement shenanigans. While making a character I noticed I could literally run circles around others while still having a powerful character. I pointed it out and we houseruled a number somewhere to prevent it as it seemed excessive. Too bad the game never went anywhere. Never play with furries. You'd think that's obvious, but you always try once because "how bad could it be?" and then you're the only person on time AGAIN and the one who does show up starts drawing dog dicks all over the table and the GM starts screeching and demanding written apologies for not showing up even though you're on time every time goddamn fuck fucking furries REEEEE
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>>84391361
>furries
Okay, but aren't TF fans a type of... metallic...furry with vehicles?
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>>84388354
Only three of the six steps.
>1: Infiltration - cons start embedding clones within alien society to take control of governments.
>2: Escalation - cons use their clones to set off various flashpoints, causing global tensions to turn into outright war.
>3-5 are unknown.
>6: Devastation - With the cons exposed, society destroyed, and everything in rubble, a heavy hitter is brought in to clean up by reducing everything to dust.
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>>84391459
...no? We just collect toys of robots, only the weirdos on /trash/ want to fuck them (which is impossible because they don't reproduce sexually, they spawn from the metal of the planet itself in most canons).
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>>84391459
I have noticed a significant overlap in the two interests.
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>>84391979
>>84392015
Also the intense interest fans have in the fembots.
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>>84371601
So, I have been developing a TFRPG and have refined and manifested a decent game out of it. Several successful test games and one with a GM that said to forget the rules and had fun with it doing whatever. He's a fun GM.
I have expanded it to not just be a TFRPG, but a saturday morning cartoon rpg. It focuses on Transformers, GI Joe, and MASK. Generally, the toy commercial shows that fit logically together as the same universe. As well as introducing my own faction. L.A.C.E. - Layered Active Combat Engines, battle suits powered by idols. It's the Maid twist in a TFRPG world and what I'm focusing on currently.
All factions use the same rules so you can have elements fight one another or just ignore them to favor the show flavor exploring things as you choose. After all, I want to have fun!
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>>84391459
... there is a small overlap.
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>>84380276
>old age
Technically speaking, it was ill maintenance and poor storage conditions that were the real killer.
>He got fixed.
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>>84392109
how about femboybots?
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>>84393346
Only because the author's a tragedy maniac. If Tailgate died, how could they have more tragedy? by being resurrected by the power of love and euthenasia machines somehow
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>>84393366
Well, there's always Japan.
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>>84393057
Sounds great. Post it here and let's see it!
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>>84392109
>the weirdos on /trash/ want to fuck them (which is impossible because they don't reproduce sexually, they spawn from the metal of the planet itself in most canons).
I already covered that pathetic minority. Also in IDW 2015 "Female" transformers put the Trans- in transformers because they're all chop-shop jobs by Jihaxus or some shit.
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>>84394456
You fool. There's obviously a sex toy tribe of Botbots just waiting for a chance at the big time.
>Nexus Maximus the double ended dildo
>Vibes the vibrator
>Windbreaker the sex arse
>Lube the bottle of, well, lube.
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>>84393366
How do they see anything? I can’t tell.
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>>84395437
Active scanning radar.
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>>84396809
Really? Wouldn’t that be lacking in things like colors and shit?
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>>84393366
Femboybots are fine and dandy but I prefer the real deal.
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>>84401314
Oh my, look at the curves on those ailerons.
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>>84401652
What’s that, an Energon popsicle?

>>84393552
Translation please.
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>>84371601
There's an option to play as a human/Cybertronian Hybrid like Sari, right?
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>>84406238
Meh, Transformers has always been about the 'bots, not the humans. Starting with Spark Witwicky the humans have always been an irritation or at best a plot device to engage the bots.
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>>84406591
Too bad beast Wars was the first series to have the bots have actual personalities. G1 is a bunch of one-note sterotypes.
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>>84406629
G1 had a very large cast and did a great job of personalizing giant robots with the limited amount of time it could dedicate to each one. An ever-shifting cast made it doubly difficult. It's amazing how much personality came through the voice acting and writing in G1 considering these limitations.

Now Beast Wars was the grand sitcom of TF shows and worked with a much smaller cast to create a masterpiece, but it was much easier to design from scratch.
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Why is Rattrap an evil flunky to Starscream in the newer comics?
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>>84406706
Please, they killed off half the cast in a movie including the lead and the fact the franchise didn't die then and there proves that not even Optimus Prime is irreplaceable.
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>>84374650
The Transformers vs G.I. Joe
The current Shattered Glass mini
Punishment

>>84406745
That continuity got shelved, and because the IDW writers at the time were retarded
cf. Star Saber is an edgy crusader caricature
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>>84406238
Seconding this. Or at least a human in power armor.
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Speaking of the comics, any good place to get pdfs of them? Any series with minimal to no crossover events?
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>>84410579
>any good place to get pdfs of them?
Readcomiconline.li has almost everything, I think.
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>>84410098
Thirding. Sari was based, Animated should have had another season.
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>>84393570
Thank you. I'm not keen on oversharing, though I'll do so when I have at least one complete Faction done. With character creation and a story module.
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>>84412933
Why didn’t it? It kind of ended on a cliffhanger, right?
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>>84406821
Do you realize how many kids broke down, cried and were traumatized by OP's death in the motion picture? That alone proves my point. G1 connected on a fundamental emotional level.
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>>84418109
Kids are also retarded consumerist that attach themselves to their favorite toys like it was their mother. The death itself was well done and the character had legacy with the audience, it doesn't still mean it wasn't a bunch of kids crying over a movie designed to sell them a giant ball voiced by Darth Vader by getting them to bawl until their parents bought them a new toy.
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>>84418109
Spoilers! What exactly happened?
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>>84371601
Who's more based, Sari or Miko?
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>>84421665
If by based you mean "fuckable" then definitely Miko.
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>>84406238
I hope they coordinate with the GI Joe rules so they can be blended seamlessly in a way that scales right, since the two are already practically conjoined to the hip to begin with.
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>>84374650
the movieverse comics are good. unlike the movies they're supposed to fill the gaps between, these are actually about the transformers
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>>84413288
I, too, would be interested in seeing your system if and when you are ready to share. I just hope I'm here if it happens.
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Deep within the dilapidated bowels, just under the heat of the Cybertronian civil war and in the midst of thick miasma and heady stale atmospheres occurs a top secret Decepticon mission, a suicidal operation of incomprehensible weight in the dreadful war's outcome set to forever favor the militant Megatron upon its success. In the hands of four ragtag lackeys who face almost certain death on the way forward and one step back is a MacGuffin of utmost importance that could tip the balances in countless unforseen ways, but the evil legions have faith that the outcome they need is the outcome they shall have. The sheepish but intrepid cavaliers are: Fucknut, Manwhore, Asshole and Shitshow, and this is their story.
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>>84421725
Who’s the girl on the left? I don’t recognize her.
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>>84424132
Miko Kubota from Glitch Techs.
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>>84374650

IDW's More Than Meets the Eye and it's direct follow up: Lost Light AKA The Rodimus and his ship of fools comics almost certainly were the best that they did.
Whilst in the end they kind of fumbled the ball, as a rule one of the things I liked about IDW comics was how alien they tried to present the Cybertronian race.
I mean, think about it, this is machine species that procreates through mechanical construction, doesn't have genders (or at least SHOULDN'T have had them) of any kind, they literally killed their god of death and now don't die of old age, and as a result they've just fought a three million year long war with each other and a LOT of the people we the reader see are ones who have been there from the beginning.
And all of this is before I even go into how their society is built around transformation.

If anything, that race should have been BAFFLINGLY alien to us. WAY more than it's usually depicted.
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>>84426708
Oh. How does she rate in comparison to the Prime Miko?
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>>84406238
>>84406591
Sari is literally a Transformer. She has a robot mode and her alternate mode is "human", just like how Optimus Prime's alternate mode is "truck". Sari was the first humanformer but she wasn't the last. She's no different than Optimus Primal having a gorilla mode.
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>>84407738
Because Rattrap has always had shades of moral dubiousness. In Beast Wars, he liked the idea of Maximals having torture chambers. Besides, it's a different universe. Characters having different characterizations across universes has been happening since the beginning of Transformers. In the original cartoon, Shockwave was fervently loyal and Blaster was a happy-go-lucky guy. In the Marvel comics, Shockwave betrayed Megatron and Blaster was a gritty soldier.
>>84420938
A combination of Cartoon Network jerking the show around and Hasbro wanting to start their own channel, which, uh, didn't pan out either.
>>84374650
Pic, and Scioli's TF vs G.I. Joe series. The two aren't connected.
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>>84394456
Only three of the IDW1 fembots were trans.
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>>84420938

Watch for yourself, as a toy commercial it surprisingly works well on as its own thing.

https://youtu.be/3RNzyYurjHg
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>>84428231
Wait, wrong post link. The CN bit should respond to >>84417545
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>>84426853
>they literally killed their god of death and now don't die of old age
Whuuu? Explain this? Is it a reference to Unicron?
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>>84428819
Anon's wrong.
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>>84428819

Cyclonus goes into it at one point in MtMtE. Essentially their creation myth, involving things like Primus, and the guy who came up with the Matrix, and a few other Cybertronian god types essentially had a war with their Death God and won.
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>>84428246
And only because Simon Furman and friends hate women in "their" TFs and wanted an edgy story. As far as I'm concerned Arcee is and always was a female transformer, period.
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>>84428819

Unicron's lore in the IDW stuff was pretty divergant from how he's normally done. He basically was just sort of "there" all of a sudden, and the Rodimus side of things literally never mentions him, in fact their storyline ends REALLY weirdly, to the point of probably being non-canon.
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>>84428231
Did they ever find those mythical Knights of Cybertron? I stopped reading before the end.
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>>84428959
Sort of.
Turns out the Knights weren't anyone special. Just an early civilization of transformers who got spaceplague from organic life. They accidentally went to a euthanasia center, which gave them the illusion of a perfect Cybertron while it killed them.
They sent a message home, blissed out on the illusion, claiming to have found Cyberutopia, and thus started the whole mess.
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>>84428868
Unicron's lore can probably be explained thanks to Shockwave manipulating history. "Oh, these organics have made a planetary doomsday weapon that will destroy us all in revenge for our genocide of them? I'll write it into mythology as our archnemesis so I can take advantage of it."
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>>84421725
Why do you say that? What about Miko specifically beats out Sari?
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>>84429192

IDW did a LOT with Shockwave, and honestly I sort of feel like, maybe too much?
Personally, I feel like straight up removing Rodimus and Ultra-Magnus from the main storyline kind of hurt the endgame there. They easily could have finished Lost Light without the epilogue (which is almost certainly non-canon anyway) and have Rodimus return, packing multipe Matrixes of leadership in the nick of time to YOU GOT THE TOUCH Unicrons head off.
Alternatively, they could have actually had Starscream do it, although what his Prime name would be is a bit of a stumper.
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>>84393117
The Hell? What happened to that car?
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>>84431300
>what his Prime name would be is a bit of a stumper.
>Screamus Prime
>Creamer Prime
>Star Prim
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>>84431300
>they could have actually had Starscream do it,
Cybertron would burn in hours.
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>>84436849

By that point in the storyline Cybertron was already gone, and Starscream really hadn't been doing too badly at running Cybertron all things told, for someone who didn't have main character plot armour anyway.
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>>84437261
>Starscream really hadn't been doing too badly at running Cybertron all things told, for someone who didn't have main character plot armour anyway.
How is that exactly?
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>>84371601
Post Fem Transformer porn
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>>84440207
Why are humans attracted to robots anyway, are we that depraved? And are there any canonical human/Transformer romances?
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>>84440020

Well, I mean, he still fucked up a lot, he's still Starscream, but on principle, when someone told him there was a sentient machine planet that eats other planets roaming around, he rebuilt an entire fleet of Decepticon Planet Buster ships and sent them at them. Which, in a normal sensible world, would have been a good move.
But unfortunately for him, Starscream lives in a world of machine gods, magic macguffins and plot related bullshit and it backfired on him.
Eventually he went "FUCK IT! AND FUCK ALL OF YOU! I'M GOING TO BE THE HERO TODAY!" and rammed the macguffin that can kill Unicron into him before activating it, killing them both.
That was basically how the IDW Transformers comics ended. With Starscream, not Prime, not Megs, but Starscream saving the day and being the hero.

Although, as I've said, I really would have preferred Rodimus to finally get his day in the sun and get that Prime title at long last, he never really had a chance to fully come online as it was over in Lost Light.
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>>84442878
Yes. There is at least one G1 episode with that as it's main point. "The girl who loved powerglide."

Fuck, look up Romance on the Transformers wiki, theres a whole section for Transformer on Organic smoochin.
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>>84371885
I'm interested.
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>>84371601
Which female Transformer is your favorite and why?
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>>84442878
Yeah, in one crossover Brawn has a kid with Cover Girl.
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>>84446980
Really now? How’d that happen?
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>>84449749
It's described as involving binary bonding, headmaster, and technoactive core technology.
So she gave him head, then they got down to some bondage, then she had a bunch of cybertronian genetic material implanted in her, and now she's expecting.
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>>84429168
>it was all a dream
That's a fucking horrible ending. I'll have to think of some better headcanon ending.
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>>84452359
Agreed. The question is what should we come up with?
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>>84452359
That isn't the ending for the comic, just for that particular mystery.
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>>84453121
What happens next? Is it worth checking out?
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>>84456433
Well, it depends.
They get captured and taken to Cybertron's lost moon by this villain who's been in the shadows recruiting some others, only to reveal he's one of the first five transformers.
He reveals the writer's OC, who mary sue jokes have been made about in the past, is actually the first transformer, and actually god.
The villain saw a big threat aeons ago through time travel, and made copies of cybertron to make into a big gun to shoot it.
And it turns out said threat is actually another Cybertron, turned into a giant robot based on the popular conception of god, coming from a universe where Megatron never existed so everything turned to shit.
"Our" Megatron, who got stranded there, returns to team up with the heroes.
The villain's planet gun fails, and he's screwed, and they figure out the OC's mysterious alt-mode is designed to mass produce matrices of leadership.
He makes a lot, killing himself, and then they use those matrices to overload evil cybertron and turn it back to planet mode, and defeat the evil universe.
The last sign from the OC is him leaving a load of new sparks on the surface of the moon, asking them not to forget him.
They promptly forget him.
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Nickel. Because she is as close as you'll get to a cybertronian shortstack.
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>>84446317
Flamewar, because she's prime Arcee but better.
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>>84374508
I suddenly hate dice.
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What's the name of the TF comic where Rodimus is in charge of a ship to find some hidden planet?
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>>84460360
Lost Light.
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>>84460429
Thanks. Uh, this one?
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Transformers-Lost-Light/Issue-1?id=159925

I could have sworn it started differently...
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>>84460429
>>84460360
>>84460550
It's actually The Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye (2012). Lost Light comes later.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/The-Transformers-More-Than-Meets-The-Eye/Issue-1?id=53600
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>>84434241
>where does she keep that hammer when she transforms?
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>>84446317
The classic lady in pink. Cause Leia hairbuns, of course. It's the best of both franchises: hot robot princess!
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>>84460664
>tfw was reading the IDW transformers collection series for lost light
Fug
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>>84458965
Good opinion.
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>>84460856
>This pic makes Soundwave eject forcefully all over the place
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>>84460664
Does this one also have a previous series to read though?
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>>84461006
It's a group of autobots with their defenses down, obviously he'd eject all his minions to take advantage of their defenseless state and take them out.
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>>84461294
It's a mostly fresh story, a bunch of call backs, but honestly you'd need to read all of the continuity -- with all its contradictions -- to get them all. And they ultimately don't matter.

>>84446317
Clobber.
Idiot tank who's pretty much only a Decepticon because her friends are.
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>>84461500
>Idiot tank who's pretty much only a Decepticon because her friends are.
Why does she stay friends with them?
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>>84371601
Besides GI Joe, what crossovers should a good Transformers game support, and how?
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>>84462973
Because they are friends. Some of them very good friends. Not every single Con is a total asshole.
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>>84462973
They're her friends, and that counts for a lot.
She even stays friends with them after becoming an Autobot (she befriended some of them during the Quintesson Invasion) and during the ceasefire she's one of the border guards, chatting with her friend who's one of the con guards.
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>>84460856
>Cause Leia hairbuns, of course.
What are those even for again?
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>>84469494
Because Arcee was literally designed as a naked princess leia as a robot.
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Arcee was one of my favorite characters until they botched her at the end. She had a great arc of going from an insane murderer to trying to find a place she belonged, and the story with sideswipe the best part of that comic run. Nickel was great, and I wish we got some more of her solo adventures. I like to imagine she ended up raising scorponoks decepticon child.
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>>84434023
Got in an accident with a truck full of hagfish, iirc
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>>84471575
What ever happened to that ratchet ass 9-foot baby?

What an absolutely insane plot thread, I'm actually miffed it got dropped
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>>84473058
WTF am I looking at? Do I want to know more?
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>>84371601
How do you feel about how Transformers handles the afterlife?
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>>84473663
scorponok was pretty great, always up to wacky antics. This was his plan to create a race of spark bearing organics who could propagate quickly, then have their sparks transplanted to prefab robot bodies to quickly create a new deception army.
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>>84474259
I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that
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>>84474146

That comic is probably the worst Ghostbusters crossover IDW ever made. Admittedly this is because IDW's Ghostbusters run was more or less fucking perfect so the bar was high but still. I'm still waiting for the X-Men and Jurrasic Park crossover comics myself.

I mean hell, by all accounts I can find JP-94 is actually a straight up original mold they did expressly for that promotional tie-in, so it's kind of weird that sort of investment didn't also have a tie-in comic.
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>>84477119
It's probably on the lower middle of crossovers.
Still higher than shit like the avengers crossover, or back to the future.
But still beneath Mars Attacks or that one they did with a razor blade mascot.
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>>84477173

Are we talking about Transformers Crossovers or Ghostbusters crossovers?
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>>84477182
Transformers crossovers sorry.
I don't think there was ever a Shick Hydrobot and the Ghostbusters comic.
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>>84371601
Sex with robots!
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>>84477201

Ghostbusters crossovers were pretty uniformly great on the whole. Two good Turtles crossovers and their piece-du-resistance that was a crossover with The Real Ghostbusters. Which led to great scenes of the two Rays comparing notes on ridiculous elder gods they'd taken down or Venkmen commenting on why on earth the other Ray has red hair for some reason.
Even the crossover with the 2016 remake film actually did a good job of smoothing over that films completely egregious mistakes.
It was only at the end where Egon basically was pushing a magic crossover button every time he had a difficult problem that things began to get out of control, and I think if they hadn't gotten told that the series had been cancelled they would had a solution for that.

As for Transformers, don't forget the G1 vs Star Trek TAS crossover they did. Yes it's weird and campy and looked odd. But that's because it's a TAS crossover and that's how that show was.
Plus it did give us G1 style Airachnid.
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>>84393057
I'm trying to develop a TF RPG for a friend, but every time I get some rules down I look at them a few days later and go "Nahhh..."

Idea being that I would do the game up as a starter box-type RPG, maybe with character generation rules (but going out with preset characters) and based around a team of 4-5 players. I figure if I can make it work, it's an easy birthday present for my friend - each year or two, release an adventure/character module for it ;)

But really stuck with the mechanics and deciding how I want it to work. Intention is for miniatures to go with it, and encounters to be played out on the tabletop, but... mechanics. Every time I get something, it's like "I've seen this before, and done better," so then I want to change everything.
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>>84477583
>Even the crossover with the 2016 remake film actually did a good job of smoothing over that films completely egregious mistakes.
And what were those mistakes? Also, more details on the crossovers please.
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The fuck is up with the sudden shift to the liveaction movie face style in some chapters? I thought I clicked on a different run by accicdent.
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>>84371601
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>>84483024
Nice. Got more like this please?
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>>84481396

The general layer of contempt for the source material for a start. Also, placing it as part of a much larger multiversal mileu and then Ray and Egon EXPLAINING how that works was nice as well. Plus they got to bring out the boat from the Ghostbusters PS3 game again, which was cool.
I did like how they straight up said that game was canon and part of the film-canon setting that the comics were principally set in, recognising that that game basically was Raimis and Akroyds GhostBusters 3 script with a faceless everyman chucked in for the player. Who is never actually named even in the comics other than by his nickname of Rookie.

As for the other crossovers, the first turtles one has the Turtles accidentally teleported to the GB setting, and is what starts Egon onto building a portal to other realities in the first place to send them home. Then in The Real Ghostbusters crossover you have a big bad teleporting the Cartoon Ghostbusters into the comics setting, and that's basically it, aside from a second Turtles crossover where a group of antagonists who had once gone after the Ghostbusters started hunting the Turtles in their dimension, and led to a lot of reality hopping with the two teams. That one was kind of a mess, but it held together okay.

As for Transformers, it was a mess of crossovers. They had a shared universe with GI Joe, MASK, Rom The Starknight (somehow, I was pretty sure that was a Marvel Property, at the very least I know bits still are) Micronauts and later on Visionaries. Oh, and Action Man.
It was a fucking mess, and the fact that the Rodimus plotline had NONE of that bullshit is one of the reasons why it was good.
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>>84485622
How did this thread turn into a Ghostbusters discussion?!?

>Rodimus plotline had NONE of that bullshit is one of the reasons why it was good
Which Rodimus comic is this?
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>>84374508
This is one of the first things I intend to houserule into oblivion. I'm not a 5e guy but the Adv/Dis mechanic works just as well for specialization rolls in Essence 20.
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>>84485622
Rom was a hasbro property, licensed to Marvel, who then owned everything made for it.
Hence why the IDW version had redesigned dire wraiths (the name was hasbro's, the design had been marvel) and why they now lived on a planet named after Elon Musk.
Same with Micronauts.

Of course, Rom had also been sold in the Action Man line in the UK, so they're a regular crossover anyway.
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>>84371601
How do you like the supernatural in Transformers?
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>>84486099
Essence 20 already has Advantage and Disadvantage though. The specialization rules are their equivalent of 5e's expertise rules
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>>84485930

More Than Meets the Eye in the main, it then transitions into the Lost Light titles, but in my opinion that's where things begin to jump the shark.
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>>84487337
What issue is this from?
I'd thought I'd read the Infestation series...
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>>84492090
>Blind Rizzle
>Blin Drizzle
What did the mean by this?
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>>84492090
This looks neat. Is there a color version?
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>>84497438
There is somewhere but I have had trouble finding it. I had another look and found attached.

>>84494811
No idea. Artist is non-english afaik, so possibly he/she thinks it means something else.
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>>84504013
Based. We need more Japan/themed Transformers.
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>>84504727
I've always held onto the image because if I ever get back into 3d/when I get back into 3d, and finally have a crack at 3d printing, I want to try making my own TF toys, and this is one I want to try.

This guy did a buttload of neat designs, though.
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>Entire session is a trip to the medic's to get the Loadbearer repaired after Dinobot (in universe named Dinomus and the representative of Eukaris) beat the shit out of him in a spar because he's a big guy (for you)
>Also, the constructed cold bot (whose spark donor was Motormaster) getting retrofitted to be a combiner limb since WIldrider went batshit insane and the Galactic Police put him down after he basically columbined a city
>Next session is combiner training + some actual combat that I can't discuss because I know my players browse /tg/
It was fun enough, the party's triple changer scout spent his time browsing a datapad that amounted to the waiting room magazines and everyone made fun of the loadbearer because he never takes his armor off around them, or hadn't until now when it was totaled in his fight with Dinomus.
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>>84505264
Images?
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>>84505245
>Idol (male)
>sickosYES.jpg
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>>84505269
Left to right:
>Minicon (reflavored as Powermaster)
>Powerlinker (reflavored as powermaster) who turns into a pick up truck (the combiner limb)
>Loadbearer who turns into some sort of macross space jet
>Scout triple changer (turns into a personal submarine and a sports car)
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>>84505314
Also the triple changer had to race Dragstrip to get her to sign on with the Stunticons again since this is post-war and she has made a name for herself on Velocitron.
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>>84505297
It's a fun design. This guy has some weird designs, including one of those excavators kids sit on.

>>84505314
>>84505329
They look cool. Was the triplechanger's head deliberately based on Soundwave?
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>>84505458
It was, the player specifically asked me to give his character a soundwavey head.
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>>84505504
And was Dragstrip your spoiler tag or the PC? Just realised I could have been reading that wrong.
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>>84505555
Dragstrip, because I wanted to throw some love towards animated.
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>>84505571
Nice. Anyway, hope your campaign continues to go well. I'm going to toss up a few more pics for the night.
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>>84446317
Thunderblast for me
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>>84505245
>>84505598
>missionary
>cowgirl
>funnytrap
L-lewd, anon!
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>>84487337
It sometimes works. It's a series of settings with actual gods in it, and Cybertron chock full of nearly magical hypertech nonsense.
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>>84507485
>Cybertron chock full of nearly magical hypertech nonsense.
Like what? Besides the Transformers themselves I mean.
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>>84507537

Well, I mean Cybertron is kind of full of that stuff, the All-Spark, the Matrix of Leadership, the Enigma of Combination, Primus Vs Unicron, The Hate Plague "Dark Energon" etc etc.
It's a world where nobody get's old, their gods are real, and can be seen hanging out at Macaddams every friday.
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>>84512866
That and stuff like specs bridges for casual creation of stargates. Ground bridges for just casual teleportation at planetary levels. Later advancements lead to Transwarp Drives, which are time machines. Meta-fictional weapons being a thing. Bludgeon being a practioner of "Dark Science". The Null Ray being kinda inexplicable.
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Oh, someone liked Thunderblast?
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>>84371920
It's pretty much an even more watered down 5e from what I've seen. Made the mistake of buying the core rulebook.
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I do not care for any transformer designs that try to incorporate things like clothes, hair, or obvious garments! One is ok as long as its not too prominent. I also just don't like any of the prime designs, especially arcee.
>>84515343
combined Cybertron and Animated aesthetics? Epic Win!
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>>84513691
>The Null Ray being kinda inexplicable.
Inexplicable how exactly?
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>>84515343
She was an early crush for me, back when I watched Cybertron as a kid
Speaking of, anyone know where you can watch that series now? I've exhausted y limited knowledge on such things
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>>84515838
>Dislikes it when transformers have designs based on clothing.
>Calls picture of Thunderblast in robo-mini-skirt, shirt, and tie to look like school girl "epic win."
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>>84516684
Nevermind that bit. I misremembered what it actually did.
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>>84378263

I mean, when you get down to it, that's basically how Hasbro do it with the toys. There's hundreds of toys, and hundreds more minor redeco's and remoulds of those toys, but at the end of the day it generally does boil down to

>Fast Car (with a smattering of bikes so tiny as not really be worth quantifying)
>Tank or Truck
>Plane (a few helicopters)
>Animals (a surprising number actually, even before Beast Wars)
>Random thing where the scale is wonky (Blaster/Soundwave, Perceptor, Browning, G1 Megs etc)

Then you get Headmasters and Targetmasters who are something else entirely.
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>>84371601
The one coming out soon is official, but not made by WotC. However, it's using the same system as the Power Ranger and GI Joe RPG's, which is a modified 5E sort of system. It's pretty good, I've been playing the PR RPG for weeks now. It has some hiccups (this book was pushed out a bit too early, the GI Joe book is much tighter overall and basically near perfect), but it's a fun as fuck game.
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>>84371920
>Anyone played it yet and can provide a review?
It's a pretty simple system. Every roll is a d20+another die on a sliding scale by die type. If you're unskilled in something, you instead roll with a Snag (Disadvantage).

You get 12 points to distribute at char-gen (for a Power Ranger anyway), which gets divided between 4 stats, min of 1 point in each. The 4 stats determine your defenses (1 tied to each stat). Each point invested in these 4 stats also buys you a rank in a skill tied to that stat, and your class/"race"/other options give you bonus stats with pre-set skills on top of it. It's pretty flexible.

It's a very low HP system, too. The most a player could have in the PR game is 8HP, and most weapons deal just 1 damage.
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>>84374508
>overcomplicated
Are you so retarded you can't pick up a d20, d2, d4, and d6, roll them all, and then add the highest of the 2/4/6 to the fucking d20? Jesus dude. Alternity was doing this like 20 years ago. D&D does similar even today.
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>>84374650
Regeneration 1, which was a literal continuation of the original 80's comics. Continues off issue 80 and goes to around issue 100 in total.

And then everything else from IDW, starting from the beginning.
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>>84393534
This was the "AND SOMEHOW, PALPATINE REAPPEARED..." of MtME. God, that comic started off so good and then turned to absolute dog shit about midway.
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>>84393366
Polys aren't fully robot. Shamrock got impregnated by a human and gave birth to a hybrid.

>>84395437
Eye is the green thing.
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>>84457041
You forgot the extra stuff!

Everyone still alive dies miserably of old age millennia later.
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>>84431300
>IDW did a LOT with Shockwave, and honestly I sort of feel like, maybe too much?
They were just copying the old Marvel comics there. Same with Galvatron. Two guys so insane they should've been put out of everyones misery a thousand times over, but keep on surviving because they're writer favorites.
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>>84444813
MtME was basically a giant fuck you to anyone who liked Hot Rod. He had 0 character growth, and indeed, featured nothing but character regression from the point he was handed to that hack fucking writer.

Go read Regeneration 1 if you want to see Hotrod actually be Rodimus and not get shit on completely.
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>>84514571
Way to go, buddy!
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>>84520993
>Eye is the green thing.
Why not just have a normal eye?
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>>84522782

Maybe it's like Shockwave or Whirl?
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>>84519088
To be fair, so do the writers. Sometimes it even leaves things icy. Other times it's more of a regular blaster.
Also the cartoon presented it as Starscream's superpower, rather than a regular weapon. He was shown firing it from his finger, or his vehicle mode nosecone, and lost it when Megatron borrowed all the Decepticons' superpowers to cheat in his duel with Prime.
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>>84520919
I loved this series, because I like seeing villains suffering consequences.
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Thats just a joke. I have the actual Polynian figures. First run he did have eyes beneath his metal bangs (which move like hair anyway, apparently), 2nd run figures removed the eyes and all runs since have no eyes beneath. That said, Polynians are not entirely robotic, because they did somehow get impregnated. Probably closer to cyborgs, theres gotta be some meat under there.

And yes, that is a transformer sniper rifle he has. One of the DJD dudes.
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>>84523495
Huh? The only people that really suffered any consequences is Hotrod.
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>>84371601
Wizards never made one but FFG put out a game called Mechamorphosis on the D20 system.
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>>84378684
>Bat
>Gorilla
That's Optimus Primal you fake fan piece of shit!
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>Finally made it to more than meets the eye
Holy fuck that was long.
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>>84525706
Nope! Convobat, and Cybertron Beast Planet Optimus Prime.
And of course originally, before the show, Optimus Primal was meant to be Optimus Prime, just like Megatron was Megatron.
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>>84446317
Cyclonus.
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>>84525863
Convobat isn't Optimus Prime either, though you are right about Beast Planet Optimus...
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>>84525756
Comic was running for a long time bro. Anyway, better savor those early MtME issues, because the whole thing drops off a cliff into a pool of rancid, boiling dookie pretty quick, and never recovers.
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>>84525920
Different Convobat. Not the blue headmaster, but the bright red one whose bio talks about him being a truck before becoming a bat.
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>>84378263
They'll probably have some customization to them, but point buy? Nah, fuck that. That'll just lead to dumb shit unless it's pretty bland or rigid. Also, having a niche is a good thing. Thats pretty much how Transformers are in setting as well. Almost no one is omnicapable, at best you just get guys who are unreasonably strong/tough for their size, and those are usually the leaders.
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>>84525999
If I'm going to be able to pick my alt mode I should be actually able to pick my alt mode. Furthermore, my robot mode abilities shouldn't be reliant on my alt mode.
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>>84527114
I admit I don't know how in depth it gets, but from what I've been able to piece together, origin gets you a boost to one of the four stats (and an associated skill boost to something appropriate), a vehicle mode attack, and a particular perk. I imagine there's more in depth alt-mode stats where other games have vehicles.
Origins they have include:
>Champions (cars and bikes)
>Monoliths (trucks)
>Rainmakers (tanks)
>Seekers (jets)
>Cutters (boats)
And one for object formers.
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>>84521114
Yeah I felt the treatment of Rodimus was really strange. The writing sets him up as the hero, and frames him to be sympathetic, but also gives him a bunch of awful character traits he never had before and doesn't convincingly redeem him. However his depiction in other IDW comics is actually really good, presenting him as a rogue element who is impulsive but gets shit done, haunted by killing a bunch of his people after reluctantly joining the autobots (this should of been brought up again), fighting scorponok to the death, rejecting bumblebees leadership, soloing the decepticons to get the matrix back, just trying to be a good leader, that was dope rodimus action, and MTMTE almost never gives him genuine heroic moments.
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>>84527283
Thats because Roberts is what I like to call a..."Bendis Writer".

Blocks of dialogue, ignores the fuck out of whatever came before him in favor of whatever bullshit he wants to prop up, loves inventing OC Donut Steele author mouthpieces, and while sometimes can start a story, it all falls apart near the middle and towards the end is just hot garbage. Yet the average reader seems to love their writing for some reason. I'll never understand how these people keep getting work.
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>>84527244
That's far too limiting for my taste, I should be able to play any character with any weapon and any alternate mode(s) I want.

Class based systems suck, especially for something like transformers where characters don't fit into hard and fast niches.
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>>84371807
It's kinda ass, D&D but 'reflavored text' with maybe I think there was an extra D6 involved but ehh.

I know one of my friends was working on his own transformers tabletop at one point, i can ask him for it if you want it.
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>>84527914
Motherfucker you haven't even seen the game yet. No one knows what it looks like yet because the book ain't out for like 2 months and theres been no leaks. How do you know anything is to your taste? Because some anon who admits they don't even know shit beyond hearsay says so? Wait until it comes out and pirate it like everyone else.

Also your taste is shit.
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>>84522114
I used to know the JaAm guy years back, I am fairly sure we played on the same TF MUSH. And... Josh... I can't remember his surname. I keep thinking Bertram but can't remember. One of the colourists at IDW. He tried to get a TF Machine Wars comic collaboration going years ago before he got comic work. I cannot remember for the life of me where the hell i knew him from, though.

... might have been TF2k5... but I can't remember.
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>>84528164
If it's anything like the Power Rangers system, it WILL be shit.
>Your taste is shit
You can tell me that when you stop shoveling D&D clones down your gob.
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>>84529570
Wow. What exactly is the issue with the Power Rangers system?
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>>84527733
>I'll never understand how these people keep getting work.

Nepotism generally. The Comics industry is something like 70% incestous hires of old friends from other places. I'm still almost sure that Mark Millar only has a career in comics because people keep getting him confused with Frank and don't have the balls to admit it.
Marvel will basically hire anyone who either fills a quota or who has an in with editorial. Regardless of actual talent. Marvel get's around most of the obvious problems of this by making them work in the Star Wars comics side of things, where there is basically zero quality control and they don't give a fuck if they trace or just steal stuff from peoples deviant art accounts.
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>>84529570
Why are you doubling down on having shit taste?
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>>84446317
Picture related. She’s based, am I right?
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>>84520993
So you be sayin'...
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>>84489016
Yeah I noticed that too after the post. A flat modifier or maybe just rolling the Skill die twice and taking higher.
>>84520889
>retarded to roll d20, d2, d4, and d6, add the highest of the 2/4/6 to the fucking d20?
No anon's saying they can't do this, but it is a valid opinion that this is a needlessly cumbersome and time-consuming mechanic. All that just for a better than even chance of getting a slightly higher result? At my table it's gone.
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>>84428865
>Simon Furman and friends hate women in "their" TFs
Argh Furman's my favorite of the TF creators but this has always bugged me. There are "female" body type/persona Transformers for the same reason they have humanoid modes and cockpits. The same reason "we" have female or male robotic frames and/or persona AIs in our world. It's not a huge leap of logic.
Whether it was the Quints or Primus or whatever, at the beginning or at some point in their development the Transformers were influenced by gendered, humanoid organics.
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>>84535254
>but it is a valid opinion
No, it isn't. People need to stop treating "muh opinion" as a valid answer to everything. It's a quick to resolve mechanic and if it's taking so much time at your table, then you're probably actually retarded and unable to count. The fact you're removing it without understanding how it's going to fuck the odds in this game just proves you're a reject who probably should be ridiculed in the street for their shit "opinions".
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>>84535757
Anon, please consider professional help. As a fellow TF fan, I'm serious. Get better.
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>>84535843
If you don't want to be treated like a fuckstick for shitting dumbassery everywhere, why are you on 4chan? Free to leave any time.
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>>84535757
Have you ever kissed a girl, anon?
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So when the book comes out, what continuity are you using? Or are you homebrewing some pastiche of continuities? Because what "Transformers" is differs pretty damn wildly depending on what parts of it you like.
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>>84527244

I mean, I'm honestly impressed they included boats to be frank. There's something like four of those in the entire setting, at best. But conversely, it's actually kind of annoying that they did Boats over Beasts forms, since there's quite a lot of THOSE even if you discount Beast Wars, G2 had a ton for instance. The only weird thing for me is that the book will come with rules for Triple Changers but bafflingly NOT the rules for Combiners, which is weird because... well [guestures at the megazord rules that's right there in the Power Rangers book].
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>>84539017

There's also 3 million years of Autobot Vs Decepticon war to fit your own homebrew era's into as well. If it were me, I wouldn't include earth at all, everyone knows the humans in Transformers are ALWAYS the weakest parts of the narrative without fail. Take that off the board.
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>>84539017
Eh, G1 is still my fave continuity so I'd use that probably. During the D-A wars. I found the post-war continuities make for great comic stories but too confusing and directionless for players in a game. People want to know that Starscream is a bad guy, not that he's president of Cybertron but still kinda bad but not really cause he's helping but also scheming with former deceps.
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>>84539017
>>84540730
>>84544252
If I run something I'm possibly thinking Wrecker-esque scenarios. Team of bots on a mission to do X during the war.
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>>84545109

Best way to do it in my opinion. You can throw espionage ops on alien worlds, secret wars between Autobots and Decepticon infiltration teams on planet, more straightforward stand up and shoot missions, or treasure hunts for The Ancient McGuffin.
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>>84542705
Why hasn’t Megs just killed this guy? Why keep someone like Starscream around?
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>>84546980

Because he's incompetent at it. He'd rather have Starscream, the known incompetent betrayer around, than an unknown somebody who IS competent at backstabbing.
Like say, Shockwave, or some variation of Scorponok. Starscream acts as a kind of circuit breaker, as if there's ANY betrayal going on, Starscream is going to try and muscle in on it, and then in his arrogance and greed for power, ruin that plan. Meg's beats the shit out of him, his co-conspiritors retreat back into the shadows, glad it's not them, and the cycle continues.
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>>84546980
>Why hasn’t Megs just killed this guy?
I mean, he did.
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>>84546980
There was an episode of Prime where Megatron took Stars team to a cave to execute him, until Arcee fucked everything up
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>>84546980
>>84548405
>>84548991
Megs did, but the smug basterd keeps coming back in various ways.
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>>84546980
One of the most recent shows (Cyberverse) has a big sequence where Megs finally gets pissed off by Starscream's shit and give him a pretty brutal fucking beatdown before leaving him for dead.

It is a pity he didn't finish the job, as Starscream survived, but believed himself to have died and come back, and started a cult based on the idea that he was god's chosen emissary.
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>>84550939
>as Starscream survived
How, Megs is usually pretty good at killing his non-Optimus enemies.
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>>84552576
My guess is it's Cheetor's fault.
Starscream had just enough life left to get through the portal he saw him leave through, and reach the Allspark.
The Allspark healed him, he interpreted this as a big religious moment, and went on to start his death cult.
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>>84546980
they're secretly lovers
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>>84554996
Thankfully that part of the fanbase will never see that happen, especially now that IDW is losing the license.
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>>84556713
>now that IDW is losing the license.
Huh? Link? Which comic company is going to be doing TF comics from now on?
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>>84554996
Dreamwave implied Megatron was Starscream's father.
Which honestly probably just makes it even hotter for some people.
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>>84557035
No one knows just yet, but supposedly Robert Kirkman (the guy who made Invincible and Walking Dead) might get it on his company, Skybound, which is a side label of Image Comics.
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>>84557253
>Dreamwave implied Megatron was Starscream's father.
I thought that Transformers didn’t reproduce like we do.
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>>84559296
They don't. (Usually)
Doesn't stop them mentioning fathers at various points.
At one point, the tapes were listed as Soundwave's sons.
And Ravage had his own son in the beast wars manga.
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>>84559446
>At one point, the tapes were listed as Soundwave's sons
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>>84559712
Oh, those wacky nipponese! What will they think of next? Baby bots? Transformers who can become people?!?

Anyways, is there a complete list of all the TF universe aliens and planets somewhere?
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>>84561748

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page
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>>84561748
>Anyways, is there a complete list of all the TF universe aliens and planets somewhere?
No, because the TF universe is brimming with alien life, if you're going by the various comics and shows. A bunch of them aren't named, either. Usually just seen in the backgrounds of panels or used for short gags or story pieces. Nor is there really any relative "location" in TF space really, stuff is not really mapped out. Also alien stuff tends to be closer to TF sized rather than human sized, which can be fun because most settings just have most races as roughly human sized.

tl;dr You've got a lot of freedom to incorporate just about anything.
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>>84564772
The Transfomers Animated space is pretty well mapped out.
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>>84565554
Is this supposed to be an IDW map?
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>>84565597
What part of TRANSFORMERS ANIMATED did you misunderstand?
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>>84565547
>Thusla Doom
Really?
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>>84565871
>The Animated universe doesn't have a Unicron, bu it might have a Beast Planet
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>>84565818
The almanacs were, for better or for worse, filled with massive amounts of pop culture references.
Plus, where else would Cybertron store its bitches?
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>>84565818

Tsathoggua and Eibon raise some eyebrows from me as well.
The fact that Thulsa Doom is orbited by a moon with his original book accurate name of Thoth-Amon is also really weird as well.
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>>84565554

>Planet Nintenduu
>New Texas, which lies deep in space.
>Yuatja
>Mongo
>Rimmerworld!?!?
>Majipoor
>Skaro, with notes about how it being destroyed is a shame as Swindle needed a time machine.
>Hala
>Giedi Prime
>Z'Ha'Dum
>Thundera
>Planet X with notes about energy gods.

Jesus christ lads, SOME pop culture references are fine, you don't need to go THIS far into it.
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>>84566194
Daleks being in Transformers actually has precedence
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>>84566194
>>84566928
Also not the first Red Dwarf reference - In Beast Wars, the Nemesis's livery name actually says "Red Dwarf" in Cybertronix.
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>>84566194
Planet X is actually "energy pods" and from Victory I think.

>>84566928
Also a predator/yautja appeared on the cover of one of the UK comics hunting Starscream.
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>>84566151
Thoth-Amon makes more sense, as transformers and GI joe share universes, and in GI Joe there was an ancient Egyptian General named Amon-Toth in reference to him. (He's one of the DNA sources for Serpentor. And the only fictional one)
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>>84565818
Yes.



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