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島 Edition

>Bans
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/october-13-2021-banned-and-restricted-announcement

>Spoilers
http://www.magicspoiler.com/
https://mythicspoiler.com/

>What is EDH?
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CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES
>Current meta, complete with deck list
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>Build and share casual decks
https://deckstats.net/
http://tappedout.net/

CUBE RESOURCES
>Build and share cubes
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https://cubecobra.com/landing

CARD RESOURCES
>Search engines
https://gatherer.wizards.com/
https://scryfall.com/
https://mtg.wtf/
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM
>Play online for free
untap.in
https://dr4ft.info/

>Previous
>>82965065

>TQ
Do you tend to prefer futuristic settings or traditional fantasy ones?
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>>82983421
>TQ
Futuristic as long as it looks like pic related.
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>>82982982
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/mtg/'s Tournament's.
On the sims the rooms must be tagged /mtg/ pass must be fatguy. Otherwise coordinate with opponent.

January 22 tournament sign up: https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/OjSlyUGBZy

Sim to be used: Xmage
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>>82983421
>TQ
Esper futuristic was the kinoest
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>>82984343
I still love how the skies of Esper are charted and look like a blueprint, even the clouds are sliced and dissected
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>>82984417
Esper was more aesthetically unique than most planes it's a shame the shards had to be brought together again
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>>82984417
oh Chippy, I miss you so...
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>>82984491
Those Lorwyn spirit avatars were so freaky and mysterious, I loved them. That's how Gods should look like.
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>>82984583
INSTEAD YOU GET THING YOU RECOGNIZE
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>>82983494
>>82984343
>Why yes, I am a robot enjoyer, how could you tell?
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>>82984583
>>82984592
Lorwyn must be full of niggers now.
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>this card is supposed to be some huge dinosaur thing mad out of moss with tusks
holy shit, I always thought it was a huge kangaroo with antlers
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>>82984353
>casual, premodern or cube
It's like you really want to say EDH but you know you're gonna get called a tranny if you do.
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>>82984490
m-maybe we'll get a return to alara and while the ex-shards have blended togheter at the edges their contral territories are still recognisable... maybe...
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>>82984666
Kek, based Satan.
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>>82984659
I can see fuck all
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>>82984659
>>82984697
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>>82984659
i just see a big green nigger
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>>82984681
What if Alara becomes the 4c plane? With each shard acquiring the 4th color they needed to do their shit and now defined by their 5th missing color?
Esper needed red mana to make sangrite, which was the base component for etherium, so it becomes WUBR. Grixis needed green mana to create new life and not starve, so it becomes UBRG.
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>>82984753
yeah fuck that, playing anything but three colours at once is stupid and I hate it and fuck you
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>>82984759
It'll inevitably happen anyway, sorry anon. Let's hope Astrolabe comes back by then.
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>>82984724
that's a tuna bro
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>>82984753
>Esper needed red mana to make sangrite, which was the base component for etherium, so it becomes WUBR.

>>82984772
Actually it already happened, we only need to go back there now.
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>>82984666
Or maybe he wants to play magic.
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>>82984805
>>82984753
>Grixis needed green mana to create new life and not starve, so it becomes UBRG.
Return to New Alara next year, get hype.
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>>82984805
I want to FUCK Breya
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>>82984931
fuck where, anon? you can fuck Breya right now, just make a pile of coat hangers
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>>82984753
QRD on the alara lore? Idk anything about it. What colours did the other shards need, and why? (which colour did based jund need)
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>>82985165
>which colour did based jund need
More white, for to get some food.
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why did wizards fill white lifegain with a million things that all support each other this standard
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>>82984294
>MH2 turned legacy and modern into block constructed
> Wizard still hasn't decided if they want to support pioneer or let it rot so people don't want to invest themself into it
>Standard is solved until Kamigawa, a plane wizard ruined to jump into the cyberpunk bandwagon
>Alchemy, a format nobody asked for, killed any interest into Arena
>so much product you don't know which one was released or will be released
>any format worth talking about like cube are format you play with friends so you can't really talk about them with stranger because they don't know your playgroup.
There isn't anything to talk about. Like do you really want to talk about the 16448351th secret lair ?
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>>82985222
>playing standard
ISHYGDDT
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>>82983421
Friendly reminder that Kamigawa Neon Dynasty will never be as good as OG Kamigawa, and actively harms the franchise.
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>>82985260
based dashing ragavan
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>>82985260
>playing modern, a format ruined by modern horizons
>playing legacy or vintage, actual paypig shit
>playing alchemy, the worst format ever designed
>play edh, the format that isnt in this thread
so what do you recommend
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>>82985275
take the pioneerpill
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>>82985267
there is nothing neon dynasty can do to kill the franchise worse than fucking strixhaven
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>>82985222
Wizard want to attract new players to sell them overpriced cardboards and new players love lifegain.
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>>82985267
supposed love for kamigawa is retroactive, when it came out back in the day it was just ok
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>>82985275
take the out pill and get free
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>>82985207
and what about bant and naya? Wiki doesn't say
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>>82985292
and why wouldn't they when wizards makes it so every white common either gains life or benefits off gaining life
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>>82985275
>play edh, the format that isnt in this thread
*the format that isn't magic
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>>82985333
why, because it isnt dogshit ruled by white lifegain?
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>>82985338
if you mention commander here, you gonna have a bad time
apologize and leave
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>>82983937
definition of based
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>>82983421
>TQ
Depends on the aesthetic and how it matches with a medieval world. The Weatherlight Saga shows that everything can be possible and I enjoyed the old lore for that kinda stuff like Urza's inventions, the Thran or the Phyrexians. I think the way Kamigawa does it seems to be way over the top and to modern for a world like Magic.

It's funny that Magic hasn't tried to make guns yet (Besides that one old set that got knights with guns). They could do it with the next Kamigawa set, since feudal japan itself had guns.
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>>82985275
pauper cube, without multicolored cards
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Is there a way to play with custom cubes in MTGO? Last time I checked, I think you could only play with pre-made ones and only at certain times or something, like it's an event. Can I really not run my own cube with friends online?
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Learn is the worst mechanic ever added to this game and its designers should be shot.
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>>82985493
it's a mechanic designed for arena, for best of one
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>>82985493
>Sweep
>Haunt
>Cohort
First three mechanics I could think of that are worse than Learn.
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>>82985553
>tutoring is bad now because...learn is a good mechanic, okay??? stop thinking about it and buy more cards!
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>>82985403
Void has to be one of the coolest cards in the game. That art is amazing, even compared to other Kev Walker arts.
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>>82985605
>>>/btg/
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>>82985577
>cohort
why would you complain about convoke with more steps
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>>82985304
Bant needs black to stop being pushovers and Naya needs blue to progress beyond their Aztec tier civilization.
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>>82985577
Don't forget companion, megamorph and bands with other.
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>>82983421
Finally a good general
>T.Q.
I like fantasy ones, even if the fantasy have some degree of high tech it should still be fantasy.

And btw i m rereading the moons of mirrodin book and holly shit, it is low tech as fuck. Outside of memnarch stuff all the races are low tech, to heal a wound they go for magic, to gather information they use shamanic visions.
Mirrodin is Kino
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>>82985651
>megamorph
regular morph is worse.
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>>82985493
Commanders. This is where all went wrong beyond belief and I jumped ship.
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isnt it so funny that enchantments and artifacts become incredibly powerful in a standard where wotc conveniently forgets to print any good artifact/enchantment destruction for green
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>>82985704
>masked vandal
>containment breach
>witherbloom command
>outland liberator
>binding the old gods
>mortality spear
>outside of green is cathar commando, rip apart, 6 mana kaya, skyclave apparition
I don't know how shit standard currently is but all of these seem like they have some degree of playability MB/SB.
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>>82985740
meanwhile naturalize, wilt, and appetite for the unnatural are all 2/3 cmc instants that do the exact same thing but better
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>>82985749
>forgetting that broken wings and return to nature are standard legal
anon...
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>>82985740
>where wotc conveniently forgets to print any good artifact/enchantment destruction for green
Huh? I didn't even check exile effects yet.
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>>82985779
He was in the right to take the goyf over burst.
>>82985785
Yeah, the removal currently in standard is fine, I just think anon is a shitter playing BO1 on arena and thus doesn't have a sideboard to work with (and doesn't even want to use the learn memes to tutor up a free containment breach!)
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>>82984491
Lets hope maro is fired before return to lorwyn, soo we can have avatar gods and other cool stuff.
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>>82985749
Right now in standard you have broken wings,crushing canopy return to nature and tangletrap as 2/3 cmc instant that destroys artifact and/or enchantment.
The problem is all of the artifact and enchantment that see plays (esika's chariot, ranger class, meathook massacre) have an ETB so even if you destroy them your opponent got value and you just lost tempo.
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>>82983421
I like a wide range of settings. The multiverse is one of magical greatest strengths . I want sets to be everything from Caveman days to space opera and everything in between
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>>82985779
a wild tapmorono appears!
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>>82985772
>forgetting that broken wings and return to nature are standard legal
broken wings is a worse appetite the unnatural and return to nature is the only card in standard on par with any of those three
>b-but broken wings lets you kill a creature with flying!
yeah so does blizzard brawl and snow lands have literally no downsides
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>>82985275
Pauper Block Cube - cheap and kino. For Constructed I'm fine with Pioneer - it's surprisingly comfy.
>>82985408
>without multicolored cards
Shit take mate. Invasion Block is absolutely fantastic for building a Pauper Cube and the multicolor Pauper-legal cards there are pure sex.
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>>82985838
yes, right now in standard you have one good 2cmc card for instant destruction and three bad other cards
crushing canopy and tangletrap don't even destroy both!
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>>82985874
>sorcery speed fight removal that requires 3 snow lands and a creature to work as intended is the same thing as an instant speed modal spell
Woah dude.
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>>82985910
like i said snow lands have zero downside so if you have the money there is zero reason not to run all snow lands
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The actual very good green artifact/enchantment removal is outland liberator.
I played against that card in legacy the other week, it's a real card.
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>>82985923
oops all negates
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>>82985915
Tell us mono G player which enchantment touched you in an inappropriate place.
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>>82985959
this whole standard is covered in enchantments, there's no single one to counter
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>>82985970
>covered in enchantments
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>>82986014
sorry i don't care about your nobody site scraping netdecks when every single white lifegain deck runs cleric class, every black deck runs meathook, every green deck runs ranger class and every rich kid gruul deck runs bard class
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>>82985923
Yeah dogfucker is surprisingly strong.
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>>82985298
anything that was just ok 20 years ago is a million times better than stuff that is just ok today
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so will it be saga or equipment? or a vehicle?
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>>82986319
This? will be a saga.
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>>82985165
Alara was split into 5 seperate sub-planes that weren't aware of each other's existence. Each was difined by a trio of colors and thus was missing something
>Bant is UGW. Its citizens cannot comprehend fighting dirty or wanting something more for yourself.
>Esper is UBW. It's a mechanical plane without creativity or community.
>Jund is RGB. It's a lawless wilderness without civilization.
>Naya is RGW. People are subservient to behemoths and don't even try to learn about the world.
>Grixis is RBU. There is no hope of new life, souls are reused endlessly by demons and necromancer-kings.
Bolas put it all back together for reasons.
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so the wanderer is azusa, huh
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>>82985493
wrong. that would be companion
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>>82985651
Companion at least has merit as a deckbuilding puzzle, but a few OP cases with negligible drawbacks doomed the mechanic. Which is a bummer, because it's an obvious was to circumvent Legacy's constant problem of "this card would be a great addition to the format if Delver couldn't play it."
Don't give me some bullshit about consistency being bad for the game when players constantly beg for more card selection.
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>>82984666
I don't have a single edh deck and I also hate the antichrist.
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>>82986442
just because lurrus is op doesn't mean companion is a bad mechanic,
i mean it is a bad mechanic, but for different reasons than you think
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>>82985275
The problem of Legacy isn't even the cost since you can just proxy, the problem of Legacy is legitimately the same Modern has, as hilarious as that might be considering the theoretical powerlevel difference.
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>>82986479
i'm tempted to make an Ayula bear tribal deck
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>we've reached the point where people are unironically defending companion
it's over
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>>82986526
Are there even enough bears to fill the deck?
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>>82986534
Hating companion is the double digit IQ take.
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>>82986523
The fix for Legacy is "print literal Force of Will in more colors" but it will never happen.
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>>82986557
The only format companion is good is limited formats
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>>82986547
I just need the bear necessities
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>>82986573
And Vintage
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>>82986534
Everyone else gets banned by the jannie, it's all optics. It's easy to create consensus when opposing voices are silenced. You should have learned that by now.
>>82986453
>Companion has merit
No.
>>82986562
>print literal Force of Will in more colors
Fuck no. That's part of the problem, shit like Force of Vigor or Veil.
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>>82986610
>Force of Vigor or Veil.
>sideboard cats are part of the problem
How? Giving more decks access to "the most important card in the format" would give a huge boost to tier3 archetypes and might even make some of them worth playing.
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>>82986610
You don't play Legacy if you think Force of Vigor and Veil of Summer are the problem.
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>>82986632
damn you're stupid as fuck
veil and fart just let powerful decks protect themselves from answers
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>>82986661
No shit, anon, I don't play anything anymore, can't even enter the store.
FoV and Veil are a problem in every format they're legal in. Pure garbage. I didn't say they are THE problem, don't try and put words in my mouth.
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>>82986632
Too hateful against certain strategies. Force of Will is a 2 for 1, Force of Vigor is a 2 for 2. Veil is a 1 mana Cryptic.
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>>82986069
>sorry i don't care about your nobody site scraping netdecks
>I will base my bitchy and whiny shitpost on my subjective opinion regarding the Bo1 Bronze Rank meta on Ar*na instead.
You are P*lish, aren't you?
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>>82986661
They aren't the problem but they are bad design. Something people neglect is that there are lots of cards now that aren't OP but are bad design. WotC knows this too. When they banned Lucky Clover and Veil in Standard they decided to ban Escape to the Wilds too, a card that isn't busted but badly designed.
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>>82985681
underated post
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>>82986701
You said they're part of THE problem. Legacy has many problems but that sideboard hate isn't one of them.
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>>82986557
>hating a mechanic that made a card too powerful for vintage, needed a rule change to not break every constructed format and was just created to make mememender player play constructed is a double digit IQ
Companion before rule change was the worst mechanic ever made, not only because of all the format he brokes, but because wizard knew it was a shitty idea but they did it anyway.
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>>82986741
The issue with those cards is that they ARE NOT sideboard hate. They are hate for sideboard hate.
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>>82986594
Did you find that joke unAAAAable ?
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>>82986725
There are entire metas based on bad designs unfortunately. Legacy has been sitting on Delver's bad design for over a decade.
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>>82986747
>knew it was a shitty idea but they did it anyway.
I feel like this was every design decision since Khans.
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>>82986741
>Legacy has many problems but that sideboard hate isn't one of them.
Yes it very clearly is.
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>undoes you day
nothing personal kid
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>>82986762
Why is that a bad thing? Counter-hate has been a thing forever and it's Dredge's entire sideboard plan.
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>>82986778
well what are the bear necessities, then
there's barely any bears as it is
https://scryfall.com/search?q=t%3Abear
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>>82986747
>he brokes
Who is he? Companion by itself doesn't break any format, certain companion cards did.
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>>82986747
And we will never see more companions ever again, furtherly cementing this.
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>>82986797
Those cards are irrelevant to the most busted decks in the format. You need to ban half the meta to go back to a state where they matter.
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>>82986799
>deck is powerful
>you are able to swap out parts of your deck in order to have a better chance at stopping that deck, at the cost of hindering your own gameplan
>they have maindeckable anti-hate that is more efficient than your hate because it's a free 2 for 2 or a one mana cantrip that essentially shuts down your turn on top of protecting their coombo
>"i dunno why is this bad?" - you
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>>82986319
>>82986322
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>>82986807
that's 25 green bears+ any amount of shapeshifters as glue
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>>82986840
>Veil
>FoV
>maindeckable
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>>82986381
>Bolas put it all back together for reasons
for ultimate power or some shit
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>>82986860
Storm literally maindecks 4 veil
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>>82986762
>>82986840
Maybe your deck is shit, Anon.
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Why is Hammer taking so much time to md 4*Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer? I don't play modern btw but it seems kind of self-evident.
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>>82986869
He wanted to absorb the energy that would be created by the conflux in order to get oldwalker tier powers back. Everything Bolas did was to get oldwalker mojo again.
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>>82986869
>After years of world-bending machinations, Bolas’s triumph is at hand
>2009
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>>82986851
but how many of those bears have relevant power level, except maybe goreclaw
you cannot build a tribal deck around just ayula
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>>82986874
Nta but fuck, you're right. How can we even compete with all these tier 0 Storm decks packing 4 Veils maindeck?
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>>82986874
Storm I'll give you, but they play it because TES has played Silence and Orim's Chant in the past and as long as blue is the only color with game1 stack interaction Veil is better than both of them.
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>>82986453
>>Companion at least has merit as a deckbuilding puzzle
you can do that without the bullshit that is "play this card from sideboard [correctio: pay {3} to add this card to hand from sideboard]". see also Battle of Wits for one example off the top of my head
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>>82986915
Now you are coping by shifting the argument to Fagavan. Everyone knows Ragavan is busted but we're talking about design here
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Cam someone tell me why we aren't getting spoilers when the release date of Neon Dynasty is so close?
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>>82986957
Maybe somewhere in their shriveled black hearts even WotC knows cyberpunk is fucking cringe
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>>82986914
https://edhrec.com/deckpreview/aROAEPnmU_7r6YNcsD_2dA
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>>82985779
when are you going to send this card to me? i'm russian and i need a foil russian futuresight goyf for my cube because i like when old cool cards are holofoil, it helps the new players recognize a powerful card like a sort-of signpost card
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>>82986957
spoilers start on the 24th
It's an easy google.
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>>82986952
You shifted the argument to design. We were talking about the problem in the format.
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>>82986976
the guys that made Niko Aris would never be concerned about that
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>>82986990
The problem is shit design adding up. Legacy gets warped with each new release just like Modern. Maybe even worse because it gets Commander stuff like Assbreacher.
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>>82986957
They want to spoil everything close to release date soo cumsumers can’t take reasonable decisions based on playtest, and actually spend more money on release.

Btw: The Wanderer is Azusa
Azusa, the Wanderer (the lost but seeking), the old walker will get the new type and be reprinted in one of the commander decks
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>>82986978
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>>82986632
Literal brainlet tier argument.

Giving force to every color is assine. Delver (the best tempo deck to ever exist) literally wins off the back of 12-16 free counterspells because they don't care about the cost of going 2 for 1ing or bouncing islands. Giving every color force just means Delver gets more free counters and dunks you hard. Which then means you have try and combo SUPER hard and fast to get under them. But now all those crazy combo decks and can run several free counters of their own.

Combo has speed and equal footing in responses. If the deck is also running blue it gets + 3/ free counter spells in addition to the new FoW in its other colors + cantrips for card selection. Delver has the same tools to overcome the tempo loss while sticking its threats while other decks can't afford to drop cards in hand over a counter war they will lose. So most non delver/combo decks lose badly.
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>>82987013
I don't get what you're trying to imply with this gif from scrubs
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>>82987009
There's no stopping that, shit designs move the game. Tarmogoyf was a shit design 20 years ago because it raped the concept of mana curve by being on average a 5/6 bear and pushing multiple other creature-based decks out of the meta. Same with Delver as I said in >>82986781. The actual problem is WotC being indifferent to the format and neglecting balancing it.
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>>82986798
yay! free cards! i was running out of them with my 15-land burn deck, thanks for the hand refill mister!
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>>82987049
They can't balance it because balancing all these retarded formats would mean banning 10+ cards by now and they are too lazy, greedy, and inept. They will just keep printing new super saiyan powerlevel mythics hoping that when everything is retarded maybe some form of balance will emerge from the fuckfest. Btw all the mythics will cost 50+ dollars.
This game has now been so shoddily treated for so long it can't be fixed.
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>>82986489
>a mechanic so busted they had to errata it almost immediately
>originally 8th non interactable combopiece card at the start of the game
also yorion was cancerous. don't know why zirda never saw the light of day. and don't forget gyruda copy decks
what is your reasoning for it being a bad mechanic then?
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>>82987096
>don't know why zirda never saw the light of day.
Within literally 1 day Legacy was nothing but Lurrus vs Zirda
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>>82987085
Banning shit is one of balancing. The other is not printing powerful cards in one color and card type and ignoring the others. If every deck had their equivalent of a Ragavan or a consistent way to counter it no one would give a fuck about its bad design.
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>>82987117
well I stand corrected. and so does my argument for companion being the worst mechanic added, ever
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>>82987096
>they had to errata it almost immediately
It's so much worse. Companion was so broken that people here were calling it broken just on seeing the rules text. I still remember it. A guy said "the way this is worded it literally can only be broken based on the power of the cards, if they're strong this will be the strongest mechanic in the game, if they suck it will still be broken as it will never see use." This was before they showed any of the creatures. The weekend Ikoria was out on MTGO, before you could even have a physical card, 80% of the meta in all formats was companions. It took them a month to errata companions and the whole time MaRo was gaslighting like a bitch saying people just needed to get good.
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>>82987071
Sorry you don't know what Narset, Parter of Veil's actually does.
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>>82987157
>the way this is worded it literally can only be broken based on the power of the cards, if they're strong this will be the strongest mechanic in the game, if they suck it will still be broken as it will never see use.
Considering Yorion is neither of those, I'd say anon was being hyperbolic.
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>>82987157
lol did he? never really looked into that trainwreck of a human
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>>82987175
Yeah he said the data showed everything was fine (while showing no data) and that players just needed more time to adapt.
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>>82987185
top fucking kek if true, how does that man still have a job in design is beyond me
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>>82987202
You're not taking your business seriously unless you have a Jew as figurehead to crucify when the mob gets too dissatisfied.
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>>82986833
>if I have a stage 4 cancer that can be cured multiple sclerosis that can also be cured is not a problem
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>>82987232
I miss The Cure
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>>82986915
Isn't 8-Cast supposed to be the best deck? These charts are often misleading. UW Control and Ironwork were the best decks in Modern back then and they still didn't have the largest percentage of the meta because that's not what people enjoy to play.
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>>82987202
Because a lot of thing people blame on MaRo aren't actually his fault.
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>>82987314
>Isn't 8-Cast supposed to be the best deck?
Not in this timeline.
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>>82987202
Because he's just the figurehead they use to take all the blame, if they fired him then they would have no one to fill the role.
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>>82987350
Yeah, it is. Watch some games, deck shits on everything, it's a better Delver.
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>>82987273
The deck or the band?
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>>82987157
Remember that Lutri was the quickest ban in the history of the game. It was banned from mememander as soon as it was spoiled, before the set was even released.
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>>82987366
>it's a better Delver
Haha.
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>>82987185
THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED
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>>82987171
how can she do anything when she's in the graveyard? lol
>i played her this turn
then you don't have enough mana for day undoing because i'm playing a fast deck and your combo needs 6 mana to work and by turn 6 i'll be topdecking anyway with a few beaters on the board and you at 1~3 life
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>>82987369
Never liked the band desu
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>>82987330
He created companions
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>>82987396
AND NO ONE CAN CONTRADICT IT
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>>82987508
But we created him.
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>>82987415
>Daily reminder that this chud fucked Phage non stop
>He didn't even desired her
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>>82987582
Gigachad, wish I was a Cabal patriarch
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Thinking of getting some foils (yeah, I know). What are the chances they'll curl in the mail during the winter?
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>>82986534
I am equally shocked and amused at the absolute fucking state of everything mtg related
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>>82986725
Heliod, sun-crowned is terrible design. Fuck that fucking shit.
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>>82987132
>>82987117
Reminder
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>>82987908
all life gain is bad design players shouldn't be able to gain life leyline of sanctity is alsi bullshit by the way
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>>82987408
>assuming Narset is not woth protecting so it's just dead in every scenario.
>assuming Narset is not worth attacking spouting some turn 6 nonsense.
Yes, you will be topdecking while I'll be drawing 7+cards a turn. That 1 life point is more than enough.
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>>82987330
I keep reading this and would agree if he wouldnt present himself as npt only the interface between fans and company but also constantly keeps mentioning in what stuff he "had a hand on creating" when prais comes only to tell us he is "Just the idea guy" when presented with undeniably criticism.

Maybe the problem.is that even his ideas are shit
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>>82987617
>>82987582
You can only reply to this post if you own a foil Cabal Patriarch (thanks financefrog).
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>>82987927

What the fuck. Cant you just go zirda + any monolith + ballista instead? You even get the enlightened tutor + goblin welder package
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>>82988114
you can, but ballista is not as fun as Shahrazad as far as wincons go
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>>82986882
Nobody plays modern.
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>>82988114
>wanting to kill your opponent instead of keeping them locked in a perpetual state of losing until the end of time
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This bitch is fucking hot. And her card is strong, it really says a lot that it's not playable.
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>>82988244
Just ban ragavan, fury, solitude, dread or idk the name of the black incarnation, Scion of Draco, the red and white uncommon removal, Urza's Saga, etc .... (and little teferi while we are at it)(if they are afraid of cascade just print a 1 mana hate stone...)
After those bans modern will return to be friendly to non tier cards.
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>>82986882
this just speculation but I don't think Ragavan is a very strong card if you're not clearing the path for him to hit your opponent
look at the other Ragavan decks in the format: UR Murktide, GDS, Jund Lurrus, Eldrazi Red, BR Rock etc, they all have a shitload of removal/counters to make sure Ragavan can keep hitting over and over

In Hammertime you're kinda just hoping your opponent doesn't have any blockers by turn 2 or 3 and if they do, Ragavan gets chumpblocked even with a Hammer attached to it
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>>82988318
In Italy we say "e poi vuoi un pezzo di culo anche?", translating to "and then you also want a piece of ass?"
Never gonna happen, unfortunately. Abandon any hope.

But this artist is pretty good. One of the best among the new ones for sure.
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>>82988244
TENTA
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>>82984417
Yeah those are some of my favourite land arts ever. It's kinda fantasy sci fi dreamworld
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>TQ
I like Amy Weber's fucking weird folk art style tech
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>>82988114
The point is to make your opponent lose infinite games in one game anon
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>>82988244
100 times better then what she looked in that one PSX game.
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Jesus fucking christ how the fuck did Wizards screw up the VOW limited format so badly? The whole game is about how quickly you can push out your bombs, and even if you do get your bombs out, you still might lose to your opponent's bombs. I can't fucking take it anymore. I'm tilted beyond all recognition, and I don't think I will be returning to a state of non-tiltedness.
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>>82988641
Remember Ikoria?
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>>82988641
>tilted
Go back to league of legends you faggot, arena was specifically created with you as a target in mind, you get what you fucking deserve (this also applies to when you purchase product).
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>>82988702
Ikoria was better. Not even being ironic, and not even the same anon.
Ikoria draft and limited was ok, opponent played a big retarded creature? you hold up 2-3 turns and if you find removal you can win, if not you keep holding. And the bombs were not retarded in comparison to the rest of the format.
Vow is shit for limited. Vow is a bad set that just edh trannies like.
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>>82988761
There is a pic for this insane opinion. Ikoria was play cycling or die to it: the format
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>>82987381
I'd imagine that has more to do with the fact that it has literally 0 downside in an already singleton format.
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>>82988745
Never played league, and I have not spent any money this set because I hate it. Obviously arena sucks for so many reasons, but it's magic for free so I can't complain.

>>82988761
At least Ikoria had cycling shenanigans as well, and the mutate creatures were super narrow. VOW is just... Oops, your Avabruck Caretaker lost to your opponent's Dreadfeast Demon baka
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>>82988864
>>82988761
Is it worse than dragons of tarkir?
Haven't drafted or played anything but legacy and cube since the desaster that was post-ikoria mtg
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Is jumpstart a fun beginner format to play? I like magic mechanics as a card game but i'm too poor to get into standard and with jumpstart i could feasibly convince other people to play with me given the super low price
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>>82988864
>Never played league
you should start, then. runeterra singleplayer mode is pretty nice

>>82989098
yes, but also no because there's no deckbuilding and the packs are so all over the place
custom cube with jumpstart-style packs is a better option but will take design time and you'll probably want to proxy a lot of the money cards in there so the whole thing doesn't cost you an arm an a leg.
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>>82988761
cringe
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>>82989184
>>82988830
Imagine defending Vow limited
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>>82985403
Dont forget the scroll gun in strixhaven
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>>82989259
git gud
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>>82989259
Imagine defending Ikoria limited.
We've had bombheavy formats time and time again, and I agree that they really suck. Ikoria however was fundamentally broken. 5 people on the table had to hatepick cards to stop one player. A single fucking zenith flare was almost all the deck needed before it went full on meme mode with 13-14 lands, 20 cycling cards amd a few rewards. When was the last time you remember that playing 14 lands and get a 4-0 deck reliably was possible in limited.

I shpuld add: VOW is pretty bad as well and I haven't drafted much of it because I despise bomb focussed draft formats. Hence the question if you think it's worse than dragons.
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>>82983421
I thought I was sick of full art basics until I saw these.Gimme gimme gimme.
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the only truly bad limited formats are the ones where everyone drafts the same deck (i.e. AFR)
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>>82988745
"Tilted" comes from poker you underaged numpty.
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>>82985577
Sweep and Haunt are based, fuck off
If you want shit mechanics look at the direction of things like Outlast
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>>82989927
based on what?
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>>82989932
Based on deez nuts
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>>82985493
*the best mechanic
ftfy
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>>82987157
Also a similar mechanic was in HEARTHSTONE at least a year before and Blizzard killed it too after player complaints.
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>>82986319
>>82986844

I REMEMBER THAT!!!
I LOVE THESE CALL BACKS TO OLD CARDS!!!
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>>82986319
>or a vehicle?
What?
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Humm
TG, i think i got information about New Capenna...
>A type of plane, a whole humm.. Universe to go to... and in particular this kind of universe is based in 1920 and 1930s like old wild west MAFIA wild west theme
>starts at 2:30-3:00 forward
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVwEr3jkaAY

Just to remember, this video from 08/18/2020 claimed a unset set comming; a 3rd innistrad set starting to be made (with dracula theme); Crossover sets; Commander legends on holyday; Fetchlands in Zendikar Rising collector boxes;

Ob Nixiles gonna rob the bank
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>>82991635
>>A type of plane, a whole humm.. Universe to go to
LOL @ the implication it'll be anything more than an entire plane with one single relevant city, same as every goddamn plane these days
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>>82987582
>builds hospitals and schools and centers of commerce
>all to bring more money into the Arena
The Cabal will probably always be the most based Black faction in Magic.
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>>82988559
>she used to be topless
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS
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Sealed-product Investorfags:
How do you check authenticity of your investments? Just curious.
https://youtu.be/i8lmQ5Ls6bw
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>>82985838
okay but where is the one that does that stuff and also draws a card and costs less mana???
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>>82985900
the wolf that breaks artifacts and enchantments is a pretty powerful card
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>>82985825
It's not maro you should fear, it's the art director.
A return to Lorwyn will mean a complete trashing of the art styles that make it iconic in exchange for "high quality" "realistic" "modern fantasy" art. That is, CG looking action shots. Take anything you love about Lorwyn, now imagine it rendered in 3D by dreamworks. THAT is what you'll get. At very best you'll get a single Omar Rayyan showcase.
Nevermind the inevitable shoehorning of humans(40% Black) into the setting.
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>>82985275
Cube Draft, or budget magic with friends. All the new cancer cards are automatically banned out of budget range
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>>82989098
You could try drafting at a local LGS. If you do it enough you might get a standard deck out of your drafts. You can also get some money cards as prize support, I got an assassin's trophy at my last draft from the prize pack.
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I hope they bring back splice but not splice onto arcane. I think there was a modern horizon card that was splice on instant.
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>>82993115
anon.. this card... it's- OH MY GAWD!
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>>82988347
I get this anon's opinion but hear me out; Hammertime is already using Kor Outfitter. How many times would you rather one over the other? Red also has Sigarda's Aid.
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>wanted to treat myself to a session of deck brewing after finishing uni work
>mtggoldfish is down
FUCK YOU MTGGOLDFISH FIX YOUR WEBSITE!!! I JUST WANTED TO FUCKING BREW, THIS IS PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU USED ALL YOUR FUCKING COMPUTING POWER OR WHATEVER ON HUGE MP4s OF SAFFRONOLIVE BABBLING LIKE A FAGGOT, FUUUUUUUCK
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>>82986882
Hammer time has other turn 1 plays more relevant to its game plan.
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>>82993115
Not humans It'll be the elves
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>>82993778
I wouldn't play Sentinel turn one over Ragavan either, if I had the choice. Turn one monke, 2 SFM, 3 Sentinel/Hammer, equip Sentinel with Hammer. It's a god hand, ok, but the sequencing is better.
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>>82993733
I think the word you are looking for is "netdecking". It's a different thing entirely. But that's ok.
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>>82991635
We already knew that retard
Also why does he look like Thanos. What the fuck
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>>82993898
no, I meant brewing. I have my deck ideas and drafts saved onto my mtggoldfish account. But thank you for being kind about your correction.
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>>82993938
>Also why does he look like Thanos
You already know.
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>>82987927
Damn, this looks fun as shit. Too bad there's no way to pull that off in any format besides kitchen table.
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What's Vorinclex endgame with the exilir he stole? Create another phyrexian god?
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>>82994678
WotC probably already forgot
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>>82994678
The writers probably have yet to know that themselves, but what else could you do with god juice? Maybe he just wants to pull a war of the spark 2 where he makes his monsters immortal (read: not eternals we already did that) so they can pass through a planar gate and attack dominaria (read: not ravnica) only to get stopped by the planeswalker justice league.
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>>82993851
Nigger Elves?
Well, i mean, we got gender neutral elf in dominaria, soo theres no reason to keep faith in god and wotc
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>>82993938
You knew Capenna would be wild west plane?
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>>82987582
>>82991940
Back when mtg had no shame in being kino
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>>82994678
>Elixir allows the gods to travel through the Cosmos without getting absolutely fucked the way mortals do
>Phyrexian portal tech currently dissolves all flesh that passes through it, causing Vorinclex to have arrived on Kaldheim as a pile of bits that had to consume an elk before he could move again
It's pretty obviously going to be used to anoint Phyrexians to allow them to pass through the portals unscathed.
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>>82994678
This >>82994700

They don't need another god, they have Mirridon's core easily accessible. Probably to get it back to the others first and foremost. Had it off to Gin-Science-Division. Vorinclex was self narrating "Object Acquired, Mission Successful, etc"

Phyrexian basically has one goal: Find a way off plane.

- We know they can rip portals open, even specifically targeting planes apparently, but nothing organic can cross over. Currently only Vorinclex possess the ability to sorta cross. So they can make holes.

- Tyrite sap is what is used to make the Cosmos elixir but it's also been used to make The Sword of the Realms a planar barrior slicing sword. And it's the several-realm-spanning-Tree's main property. Tibalt mused about the things he could do with it off-world, but we never got to see that. Presumably Tyrite is able to affect planar travel, maybe make safe passageways like the sword can make omen paths?

- Speak of Tibalt, the Red aligned walker does have a "Seed" Vorinclex put in him, and NuPhyrexia is currently lacking a Red Praetor.

Only other thing I can think of is they are planning on doing "something" with Vensor body, since they still have it.

And ofcourse there is always "Something new" something we haven't seen yet.
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>>82994867
Yeah, pretty much, i think even redditors could name this plot hook.
>Remember the kino
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>>82984101
Is this on mtgo?
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>>82994867
>Phyrexian portal tech currently dissolves all flesh
I think that's more just being exposed to the Blind Eternities while in transit. The current portal tech provides no protection.
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>>82994999
>they're planning on doing something with venser's body
they better not
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>>82995022
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>>82984753
And bant basically gets cucked by naya? Sounds legit lol
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>>82985207
>we get back to alara
>jund is just food tokens
Kek i can see it happening
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>>82985338
Because its like playing D&D except instead of building a story with the group you just sling garbage cards that dont trigger their autism
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>>82985493
Cant be worse than companions
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I lost my regular playgroup about two years ago, right before all this corona shit started. Since then I played pauper a bit while the snow Astrolabe was legal. I thought the format was fun but tron and ephemerate were too good. Then this summer I played EDH a bit at an LGS and I fucking hated it. Worst MTG experience of my life.

Is Pioneer any good? I used to play Modern all the time but the format looks like its in bad shape and decks keep getting more expensive. Are the good days ever coming back? pic unrelated
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>>82985667
>regular morph is based.
Ftfy
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>>82987521
A shame we cant cremate him
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>>82995255
This happened.
Bant would get red mana, knights and soldiers should take some creativity from it to adapt and create new fighting styles.
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>>82984753
Well following the trend of the first two then...

Bant adopts Black (GWUB)
Naya adopts Blue (RGWU)
And Jund adopts White (BRGW)

?

Honestly what did Bant need from anyone?
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>>82994999
>NuPhyrexia is currently lacking a Red Praetor.
They finally destroyed urabrask?
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>>82995502
they assaulted the fumace layer. His fate is unknown.
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>>82995502
He's likely dead, but that still isn't 100% certain. But he has definitely lose his cubicle, job title, and pension as Phyrexia Co.
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>>82995323
Pioneer is the best format right now.
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>>82995534
He will be back with Koth and they will double kick Elesh Norn in the face
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>>82995441
Bant could definitely use one of its enemy colors >>82985643 >>82995419 against invaders.
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>>82995441
>>82995678
If it gets red it'll probably start looking more like this.
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>>82995002
>>82994858
I liked the cabal as well anon, but loving this writing is nostalgia. It is super generic fantasy and only one misunderstood minority or genderfocussed nonsenseword away from what we have now.
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This has got to be the most on topic /mmg/ thread of the last 3 months...
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>>82995766
>/mmg/
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>>82994734
Do you have the flip side?
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>>82995533
>>82995534
No fucking way Urabro is dead. I'm eating a Sol Ring if he is.
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>>82995661
>Venser comes back because of ginger pussy being the most powerful plot device in fiction
>teams up with Koth and Urabrask
>they decide to just kick ass around the multiverse
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>>82995852
>>82995534
>>82995533
If urabrask turns out to have been that fucking goblin and worked against phyrexia all along I'm gonna be mad
Karn recompleated when
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Does anyone have suggestions for how I could buff this deck up for Pioneer? https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-04-21-eternal-harvest/

I'd probably need sagas or other enchantments if they're really good, maybe creatures with enters-the-battlefield effects, and something that lets me discard/sacrifice lands or mill
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>>82995985
>urabrask is Squee

does this make any sense? didn't Squee show up in 2018 Dominaria?
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The most tasteless of retards wanking themselves
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>>82996158
i think he's talking about slobad
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>>82996267
They're right though, legless orochi look better and make more sense. And I say that as someone who like the orochi back then.
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>>82995985
If Urabrask wasn't just born that way then i would guess he was a compleated goblin.
Urabrask has most personality traits that slobad had tho. But if he turns to be hin then he is compleated and in dinosaur form forever.
(he could even be Slobad+mirarri fused)
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>>82996496
>he could even be Slobad+mirarri fused
noice
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>>82995724
>. It is super generic fantasy and only one misunderstood minority or genderfocussed nonsenseword away from what we have now.
>And the plot resolve around planeswalkers.
>And one or more female protagonists that can deal with everything and are never in the wrong
>And a generic plot that finishes with a couple of conflicts to be forgoten in the next day
>And a shit world building that cares more about highlight the blue hair characters than to actually build a setting
Anon, you can admit, Odyssey mega block is kino as fuck.
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Snow is a game destroying mechanic and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>82996634
what game did it destroy?
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>>82996644
Magic: the Gathering Standard
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>>82996646
>playing st*ndard
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>>82996679
i dont have any interest in playing modern now that modern horizons has ruined it
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>>82996715
take the pioneerpill brother
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>>82996732
>poopyneer
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>>82996744
no
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>>82996624
Odyssey was too perfect.
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>>82996941
it really was
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>>82996957
prob the most perfec block
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>>82996969
but kaldheim is the most perfct set
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>>82996732
>Look up pioneer
>This format uses cards from [when the game went to shit] onwards
Yeah sounds great bro
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/mtg/'s Tournament's.
On the sims the rooms must be tagged /mtg/ pass must be fatguy. Otherwise coordinate with opponent.

January 22 tournament sign up: https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/OjSlyUGBZy

Sim to be used: Xmage
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>>82988479
mega based
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>>82996267
>nothing in Shinto points to snakes with limbs
And what part of Shinto points toward DJ with mechanical arms?
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/mtg/'s Tournament's.
On the sims the rooms must be tagged /mtg/ pass must be fatguy. Otherwise coordinate with opponent.

January 22 tournament sign up: https://challonge.com/tournaments/signup/OjSlyUGBZy

Sim to be used: Xmage
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>>82995323
>Is Pioneer any good?
it is, yeah

>>82996075
>Does anyone have suggestions for how I could buff this deck up for Pioneer? https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-04-21-eternal-harvest/
suggestion number 1 would be, you have quite a few cards that straight up aren't Pioneer legal, let's take those out
-2x Nantuko Cultivator
-4x Yavimaya Elder
-1x Iona's Judgement
-1x Magmaquake
suggestion number 2 would be filling up the gaps with cards that work well with your gameplan
+4x Commune with the Gods lets you look for enchantments and fill the graveyard with lands at the same time
+2x Crawling Sensation is an enchantment mills you and gives you a 1/1 to chumpblock with whenever you put one or more lands into the graveyard
+1x Borrowed Time it's basically a 5th copy of Banishing Light
+1x Banefire for that one-of X spell that can kill your opponent once you have a ton of mana
suggestion number 3 would be improving the manabase/making a sideboard but that depends on how much you got and what you're expecting to play against

>>82996732
this
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>>82992317
>How do you check authenticity of your investments?
By being knowledgable and not being a retard. You shouldn't invest in things you don't understand. If you need to use someone else's knowledge to decide whether to invest or not then you probably shouldn't invest in that particular thing in the first place.
>>82995766
That's cause I started posting again.
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>>82985333
lmao but the format that Wizards is, for some reason, creating card around it and for it.
Fucking admit already that nothing today is "Magic". is just pick format(s) and spend you mortgage in it (them).



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