I'm running my goblins as an intinerant culture, like the gypsys or Irish travellers. Does anyone have pictures of civilized goblins that aren't coom-bait or gizmo-gadgeteers?
>>82981965what about "goblins that wear actual clothes"
>>82982012How about the gypsy/Irish traveler goblins wear actual clothes but aren't civilized, while other goblins don't wear clothes but are civilized?
>>82981959>like the gypsys or Irish travellerscongratulations, you've found a way to make goblins 1000% times more terrible as a concept without relying on coombait.
>>82982315good thing I'm not trying to please your inbred ass >>82982230i wrote it off as a coom thread
>>82982560>I wrote it off as something that only exists in my headGood job.
>>82983053That's right, anon. Coom threads definitely don't exist.
>>82981959>civilized goblinsCringe.Read Goblin Slayer and get educated on what real goblins are like.
>>82981959>civilized goblinsThere were attempts. (I'm too lazy for a storytime https://viewcomics.me/pathfinder-goblins/issue-1/15 )
>>82981965As someone who hasn't ever deal with gypsy or Irish, how bad is it?
>>82981959>IrishHere, an Irish civilized Goblin.
>>82984370real dead ones
>>82981959Here, some Le French Gobelins.
>>82984370Yes, they're not meant to be civilized, goblins are meant to be genocided on a daily basis. Any setting where goblins aren't genocided are shit settings.
>>82984420When asked the matriarch of a gypsy family to stop stealing so people wouldn't hate them so much, she just told "no, it's part of our culture."There is one thing you can be sure about them. If one wants to be your friend, it's not because you're a good person, it's because he wants something from you.
>>82984420>shit in public play areas for children>steal (or try to) semi valuable parts/metals of peoples houses>fly tip absolutely everywhere>kill/torture the local pets wherever they move to>all other sorts of petty crime>refuse to let their kids go to school when education is offered>refuse to settle on one site when land is provided>refuse to clean up the messes they leaveSome of it may be exaggerated, sure, but they bring a lot of it on themselves, they enjoy to cry persecution to avoid having to deal with any of the fallout of their actions
>>82981959I don’t get it, normal goblins are literally gypsy stand-ins
>>82984420Just to be clear, its specifically "irish travelers," not the Irish. Plenty of Irish people are perfectly nice; I've heard that they're sometimes called the nicest group of people around.
>>82984420first off, what the anglos call gypsies have literally nothing to do with gypsiesgypsies were some exiled poo-in-loo untouchables turned mercs or somethingthey live in literal garbage, steal metal (primarily copper) from everything they can reach, hoard it on a pile, then sell itthey don’t wash, they don’t go to school, they get married at like 9, they literally swap children internationally between whatever they call their communities because they need a certain age of children that are the sweet spot for begging in the most profitable places, they run some bottom shelf mafia thing where the the gypsy godfather comes to your garbage pile and kills you and feeds you to the pigs if you don’t want to send your kid to beg in rome or somethingto be fair, they have different tribes or whatever that all hate each other, and some of them are normal, live in actual houses, are literate and poses soap, but the goblin tribes are the most numerous and most visibleyou know the list of jewish exiles in europe? that’s gypsies right nowsouthern/eastern europe get fed up every once in a while and get a mob to burn down their cardboard box settlements, bulldoze their garbage lairs etcsome years ago the italian government decided to expel them and they employed the services of some bike gang to round them up and put them on a train, there was an irl b movie scene of bikers riding in circles around a camp so they couldn’t escape before departurethey also go through fads of naming their kids dumb shit like zeus, poseidon, aladdin etc
>>82985528>naming their kids dumb shitA popular gypsy male name here used to be Jamezdin, a corruption of James Dean
>>82984420I live in Eastern Europe.Without any falsehood or exaggeration, allow me to explain:They live in a pseudo feudal paralel society and have no regard for the law.They divide domains of criminal activity and operate within those spheres.There are Gypsy Laws, primarily centered around turf protection and protocol.They habitually kidnap people, especially children, which they mutilate so they make more money begging.They abuse and enslave the homless.They kill dogs.I hate them more than I can explain.
>>82984420You know how you feel about the moral imperatives of not eating cows, or keeping your hair covered, or any other cornerstone of exotic societies seen as nonsense in the west?That’s how gypsies feel about concepts like stealing, murder, kidnapping, hygiene and basically everything you’d consider common decency. It’s some nonsense a weird society decided and it doesn’t concern them because it sounds fucking retarded.>lol but it’s right there, why wouldn’t I take it, are you retarded?That said, like you understand watching porn in Saudi Arabia has consequences despite making no sense, they too understand that for whatever reason, the host culture will go to unreasonable measures to enforce these weird rules, so they mostly stick to “victimless” crimes, ie targeting other gypsies, animals and public/government property.
>>82983737I know you think you're being funny/witty/whatever, but it's unironically the truth.Art that features a sexy woman in revealing clothes serves the same purpose for its intended audience as art featuring a man with pretty much no clothes serves for its audience. The former will get at least a dozen retards crying "coom! Coomer!" with the latter causing no umbrage whatsoever, though. It's really funny how nobody notices that.Another thing is that literally anything can be a fetish. Before people started drawing goblins and kobolds in cute styles, it's not hard to imagine some sick fucks out there still got off to them. There are people who unironically fuck live horses, just in case you aren't aware. Dogs, cats; some people will put their dick/rub their cunt over anything. Yet often times, art made in a tasteful manner, without the intention for the viewer to get themselves off, will still be called "cooooooooom" just because a woman is showing too much skin. Then art of a man, full of muscle and lean, with barely a scrap of clothing and a sensual expression is never written off as such, despite having a more lurid purpose; despite the fact that if it was a woman doing that, a thread would immediately have +100 posts of retards trying to sink the thread, because they can't actually get the image deleted.Unironically fuck yourself and your meaningless, nonsense, child babble.
>>82983053I'm not fundamentally against cooms, I was just hoping for art I could use to make tokens with. We play on VTT and I'm not about to whip out some green thiccly in front of my players.
>>82984252>deluding himself into thinking anyone cares about his lamebrain animooCringe.
>>82986652You're a plant milk drinker, you have no leg to stand on.
Monstergirl encyclopedia is a coom-bait setting but its goblins might not be coom-bait to you depending on your sexual preferences.
>>82981959Save for the "civilized bit", making your gobbos gypsies changes nothing for Eastern Europeans.
>>82984420Any anons interested in a gypsy cult out if Massachusetts?
>>82989249Post anyway. This article is from 2020 but these gyps go back to 2012https://tbdailynews.com/uxbridge-driveway-gypsies-form-church-thats-really-a-cult-used-to-prey-on-vulnerable-teenage-girls/
>>82981959>Irish goblinsYou mean leprechauns?
>>82984420Gypsies are the fucking worst. They're like less successful Jews. Ugly, self-centered, incestous. They're fucking vile in pretty much every way imaginable.https://youtube.com/watch?v=yTQu41ffoSsTip of the fucking iceberg.
I’ve never heard a good word about Gypsies/Travelers. Even the most defense is “It’s a Unique Culture” which doesn’t actually say it’s good, just that its unique.
>>82990068>8 trannies per streetBULGARIA #1
>>82981959I had the idea that goblins were originally brought into being via some kind of communicable magical affliction that infects a person and alters them. I'm unsure on how much it will change the original infected, and how exactly it would spread beyond it maybe depending several other circumstances (does anyone have any suggestions for me in those regards, as well as whether it would make more sense as a virus or a parasite, or a virus transmitted by parasite, please), but it will cause any children conceived while infected to be born as goblins, increasing their development time and libidos to encourage them to make more goblins and seek out others to either infect or eliminate as threats. The thing is, it's possible, if somewhat risky, to purge a born goblin of the infection they've had since the womb (it's easier to cure someone who wasn't born with it, but if they're already altered they're a goblin for life), and while their appearance won't change after that, they and any children they have afterward will be fully sapient and rational, at least as much as any human is, but they'd still have goblin features, or at least some goblin features in the case of hybrids. Thoughts?Also, what do you think of pic related?
>>82987516Gobs are gypsies, yest. Romanian
>>82991236Don't insult goblins like that.
>>82990231>>82990243What do you call this kind of nose?
>>82990444>>82990426>>82990414>>82990399>>82990382>>82990325>>82990307>>82990297>>82990284>>82990276>>82990261>>82990243>>82990231>>82990212>>82990198>>82990183based actually helping me poster>>82990311That's similar to what I'm doing. Magic space rocks hit the planet and the energy inside it terraformed the impact area, changing plants and animals into more alien forms. Goblins are what become of humans. Being literal alien mutants, they aren't really welcome in most human settlements, so they're travelers.
>>82985850The difference is that a sexy man is also badass, while a sexy woman is just sexy.
>>82995158A sexy man can be a badass. A sexy woman can't have a bad ass
>>82993795Right. I'm assuming there's a technical term for it.
>>82995532>a technical term for it.If there is, I don’t know it.
>>82993785>>82993795>>82995532>>82996396Scientific term is 'rhinarium' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhinarium
Gypsy hatred is always so surreal to me. The only concept of bigotry I have is what I've seen in burgerland ((which while legit is greatly exaggerated), but the way europoors describe gypsies it's like they're genuinely a fantasy race or kender/goblins brought to life and forced to live alongside humanity. I can't help but think this is also exaggerated, but I've just never come across anyone willing to speak positively of them if at all. How is a culture like this possible to even have in the 21st century?
>>82999380It’s not surreal at all, they’re just bottom dwelling indians transplanted into europ, except they are proud of it and have literally no desire to change.Have you seen Abos? Same thing.
>>82999560>Have you seen AbosNot him, but no.
>>82999380it becomes real once you meet them for real. It's really some thing american can't understand because those you have in america are really not like how they are in europe. I find it quite funny that even the most tolerant europeans become blatant racists and open about how they dislike gypsies, some try to worm their way around it to not seem racist but deep down, everyone who had to interract with them become racist.>How is a culture like this possible to even have in the 21st century?because they kept to their way of life instead of settling down and adapt to how society is for 99% of europeans, it just produces a massive clash between cultures, for gypsies it's really about us VS them
>>83001902ok, have you seen jungle book? you remember the orangutan? it’s like that, but magic his entire motivation is getting gasoline to drink
>>83002029Wow. That just, wow.
>>82981959>what of goblins where gypsies Why not just have gypsies?
>>82981959Best gob coming through
>>82981959Fuck that, do princess and the goblin goblins.>live underground>claim to be superior to humans>have no toes, claim feet are better without them>claim that humans only wear shoes because they can't bear the sight of their hideous toes>abduct humans to marry in to the royal family, act like its some sort of awful punishment to have to marry a human when clearly no one actually believes that>repelled by rhymes
>>82999560The difference is that a lot of lefty Australians will unironically defend abos. Oldest culture in the world, traditional custodians of the land, etc. I've never seen a single European, no matter how left wing, say a single good thing about gypsies.
>>82999380Gypsies are even worse than black Americans when it comes to having a criminal cultureAlso your average European has ever had to go through Detroit, south Chicago, or Anacostia after dark, so they don't know that their issues with gypsies are the same as what we see here
>>83008031was this really worth bumpingfucking seriously
Wow has some pretty Civil goblins
I've seen it on goblin threads before - does anyone have the pic of the goblin wearing a guard uniform with a large crank operated crossbow?
>>82981959>I'm running my goblins as an intinerant culture, like the gypsys or Irish travellersYou played Seed of Chaos didn't you
>>83012764Gross. What are they even trying to learn?
>>83013432>Gross. What are they even trying to learn?Why won't you find out on your own? https://viewcomics.me/orcs-goblins/issue-5
>>83004536A fellow man of culture
>>83004536She’s not bad, sure. But what makes her specifically the *best*?
>>83016580Because she's perfect
"My" goblins aren't strictly "civilized" in as much as they still largely live in tribal communities, but they're also on the whole peaceful and good-natured. They will fight if they have to, but they'd really rather not. They're also actually quite adept at engineering, but because their culture views any kind of heavy industry as unnatural, most of their technology is still fairly simple. In terms of IRL influences they've got a vaguely Southeast Asian vibe to their culture, aesthetics and language.
>>83004536>>83017111Who is this gob?
>>83017111Cute. Post more please.
>>83024234Zanik from RuneScape>>83024242I lost my folder with my old phone, i need to rebuild it. Have one more
>>83024489Nice. What’s with the glow?
>>83025044It's been ages since I played RS, but I'd assume it's a reference to her death and subsequent time in the underworld. Or her resurrection.
>>82981959>goblins as gypsys or the irishyou are asking for them to be exterminated in your setting right?
>>83010123>Seed of ChaosI have not, is it good?
>>82984420Irish Travellers (who claim themselves to be "actual gypsies") are ten times worse than British Travellers (Who also claim themselves "actual gypsies)Actual Roma cause both groups to vanish into thin air, because not even the most moronic of Travellers wants to deal with the shit that comes with an actual Roma.>t. not actually a traveller, but my dad's been lifelong friends with a bunch of them and we've wound up going to Appleby and Seamer a number of times.In other news- the culture's had a massive degradation over the past few decades because of phones, followed by drug culture. I shit you not.
>>83025284Which culture having Degradation? Roma or irish? Cause I can believe that phones and drugs (Mainly drugs) would destroy gypsy culture, and was unaware that the Irish had culture to begin with.
>>83025348Traveller Culture. Roma have always been Roma.But UK Traveller culture was a living network. You'd come and go from groups, and pass on "So-and-so's down Batley way doing such-and-such" and so on and so forth. When the mobile phone came in, there was no real need to play postman as it were. You just used the number and the person was there- and a pivotal part of Traveller culture went with it.When drugs became big in the UK they came from two places- the EU and Ireland. Irish Travelers are known for their drug running, and over the years it's been passed into the British traveller culture which is why you've got so many young Travellers acting like they're greater than god and flying around is flash cars and living in big houses.
>>83025133>her death and subsequent time in the underworld. Or her resurrection.What monster would kill her?
>>83027376>He doesn't knowGet ready for spoilers because I'm phoneposting and can't be assed to do it properly.They released a new quest after Bandos got murked by Armadyl about the formers followers fighting each other in a tournament to figure out the new leader.Zanik calls the player for help and to act as her champion. There's some politicing and her strategy, while legal, is very much frowned upon. You end up winning the tourney and get a final choice of something else and killing Zanik. A lot of people chose the latter because her redesign at the time was ugly as sin. If you let her live she dies later on, due to a disease of some sort IIRC. We later find her in an afterlife being tormented by her failure to live up to Bandos as a great leader, from which we rescue her and beat up another BBEG with help from other deceased friends.There's also a dialogue option that suggests she's interested in the player but nothing comes of it.
>>83025176It's a porn game but I think it's good.
>>83029191An actual coombrain, he can't even separate porn from good.
>>83029355The gameplay is good, even without any porn. It's a strategy game.
I like gelflings
>>82981959This is literally just a reskin of the way Pathfinder did Halflings. So not only is it a terrible idea, it's a derivative of a terrible idea
>>83031489>This is literally just a reskin of the way Pathfinder did HalflingsPathfinder halfings are literally not anything. Seriously, even the halfing book talking about halfing history says "no one,not even halfings give enough of a shit to track their culture and history. They just cropped up among human civilization."They get enslaved a lot. That's pretty much it.
>>83031489I actually got rid of halflings entirely because they're stupid. Goblins are the playable replacement.
>>82984735I'm not against always evil races, but I get more mileage out of using regular goblins to replace halflings/gnomes, with hobgoblins taking on the role of malicious cave-dwelling monsters.No reason to have orcs and hogoblins fighting for the same spot as the intelligent-army-foe.
>>83031995Are we even sure halflings are another species and not just midgets?
>>83038779Pygmies are just black hobbits
>>83039803Racist. And culturally insensitive.
>>83039803That makes sense.Humans have hobbits.Elves have gnomes.Black people have pygmies.Orcs have goblins.It seems like every medium race has a small equivalent.
>>83037176>with hobgoblins taking on the role of malicious cave-dwelling monsters.How are they related to goblins then?
>>83047090I want to extract Deet's essence if you know what I mean.
>>83044331If you've played Fallout, it's essentially the ghoul/feral ghoul dichotomy. Both are the product of mutation, but goblins are the product of a slow accumulation of mutagen and are capable of stable reproduction. Rapid exposure gets you a hobgoblin, which are usually sterile and have to make more hobgoblins from captives.While goblins are short and green, hobgoblins are taller and puke-yellow. 'Hob' is the in-universe word in the goblin language for 'bad'. (It means something like devilish in English anyway) That doesn't stop your average peasant farmer from thinking they somehow work together.
>>83050565Gross man. They're puppets.
>>83053192>They're puppetsYou can get a lot done with a hand.
>>83054772TMI man. TMI.
>>83053192Imagine Deet getting all flustered like "no anon...we can't do that...you're a human and I'm a puppet"
>>83060816Please stop. I don’t want to imagine that.
>>83005094Reminder that the average white burgerlander knows at least one adult that's molested their own children, and have at least two junkie cousins, but will keep whining about how dangerous 'the inner cities' are so they never have to address what a shithole their own lives are becoming.
>>82984252>muh goblin slayerShit anime.
>>82981959I don't get this. If you don't want goblins, don't have goblins.
>>82984252You realize Goblin Slayer is an intentional parody of the games people like you pretend you have friends to play in, right?
>>83068378Goblin Slayer is based on a real RPG campaign the author played with his friends.
>>83060816Please continue. I want to imagine that.
>>83068974Nah man, the author didn't base it on a specific campaign, just ripped themes from 2e straight up.The one that's actually based directly on a campaign is Record of Lodoss War.
>>83069048No no. Please don’t encourage him.
>>83070818I could've sworn he said it was, and Gobbo Slayer was a DMPC.
>>83068378You realize you're a retard with literal excrement for brains, right?
>>82984735>goblins are meant to be genocided on a daily basisYes, that was the historical gypsy experience.
Honestly Goblins as Gypsies is a clever way to make goblins not feel out of place as pcs and npcs while keeping the "pestness" of goblins.Also does anyone have that image from one of the drawthreads of a nasty goblin going "oh look at me I am so quirky and cute"
>>83073214>of a nasty goblin going "oh look at me I am so quirky and cuteNo, but I want it.
>>83075525Same. Post it please.
>>82981959I role play my goblin shaman in WoW as sort of the anti-goblin.She doesn't care for material wealth and possessions, and she isn't a greedy, self-centred narcissist. She's kind, empathetic, caring, and would do anything to help anyone. She's a healer and alchemist, selling her potions for reasonable prices and takes her shamanism seriously, paying proper respect to the elements instead of binding them to contracts like other goblin shaman do.She like animals and cuddles, petting everything that won't try to kill or eat her, she likes to nuzzle under the hands of all her taller friends like a cat wanting attention, and she likes to be scooped up for big hugs.When she's sad, her ears droop, her eyes go all big and dewy and her bottom lip quivers.However, since she's a WoW goblin, I also throw in some Saturday morning cartoon physics, like the fact she has a box on her belt with a button which - when pressed - unfurls a fully set up tent with boxes of her alchemical goods inside it.She can also eat her own bodyweight in food and then some, and when she gets mad she just sort of explodes in a violent fury, and uses the sort of language that would make a sailor blush.Essentially imagine the unholy mish-mash of Starfire from the Teen Titans cartoon series, Joe Pesci, and Pus-In-Boots from Shrek. Pic related.
>>83082903>Gypsies>CivilizedOkay, racist much?
>>83082841so you made your goblin a gnome?
>>83085538I mean, theyre culture is kind of a consistent anti-civilised approachBut i wouldnt call it fullblown savagery
>>83085592>you made your goblin a gnome?Maybe they’re closely related?
>>83082841Goblins in WoW look so ugly. Not even in the “so ugly that it’s cute” sense or even the cool kind of ugly. They’re just fucking ugly (then again, WoW in general looks awful so it’s not even exclusive to them).
>>83088359They were mirror units in Warcraft 2 if I recall correctly
>>83088555Male golins all look like either Lex Luthor or Hoggle from Labyrinth. But females are cute. Especially since thgy2psey got the HD model upgrade.
>>83082841So you play them like every other goblin on WrA?
>>83088555Yeah, I agree.WoW goblins look like they were meant to look good, but the designers failed.
>>83097468>but the designers failed.What was it supposed to be?
>>83098955I said they look like they were supposed to look good. They don't look good, which makes me think the designers failed.Compare that to a goblin like >>83096782, which also looks ugly, but in a way that makes it clear that it was meant to be ugly.