>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.https://www.archidekt.com>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>TQWhat is your favourite graveyard tech?
>>82318129For me, it's Entombing Glory to counter removal or make an alpha strike.
>Previous thread:>>82306719>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>how to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/
First for bring back tuck
They massacred our boy
>>82318129>TQThis cheap card lets you trade duds for something better, or even save your key card when someone nukes your gy.All that for one mana on instant speed.Imagine this with a muck drubb in your gy
>>82318167It just occurred to me that Christian's probably been an extra-prolific fag lately because the latest set is about a marriage.
>>82318164No one want to see tuck make a comeback but you, nigger. Stop this shit.
>>82318197Tuck would do a lot to solve the problem of pushed commanders, and give white a much needed boost in power.
>>82318195A heterosexual marriage between two attractive white people no less, he's probably fuming.
Which is better? Karlov or Vona? They both seem to have very similar playstyles of "lifegain+payoff for lifegain via remvoal."I really wanted to build Vona but 5cmc plus a tap AND its timing restriction make me feel like Karlov is better since you can just spam soul sisters and remove creatures as he himself gets bigger. Vonas can target anything nonland but fuck me does it feel unbelievably restrictive yo avoid abuse.Does anyone have experience with either?
What the fuck is happening in this art?
>>82318244Then play drannith magistrate, it's tuck on steroids.
>>82318268Artistic depiction of>i'm ready to settle anon
>>82318268a trannny dilated too hard and now is walking around with their flesh wound wide open
>>82318288It's really not.
>>82318193Great now we have another spammer in addition to the 30lifefaggot and squirrelnigger.
>>82318267I played Vona and Karlov in the 99 of lifegain decks, and i always found myself using Vona more often than Karlov since i played Masako, the Humorless as tapped blocking secret tech
>>82318189No one tell this guy about Tortured Existence
I love bbc
SO how good is this guy actually? I'm tuning my Daxos deck from yesterday and his front side seems redundant/too expensive, and the back side just is kinda shit.
>>82318543>Too expensiveIn an equip/aura its essentially a true conviction on a 4/4 for 4 and the backside lets you protect your main boss monster on a death trigger.Id say its better in Equips than Auras though
TL;DR: Sell me on a fun Mardu commander.First time actually going properly into paper MtG, played free stuff online and used base precons before.So I've just built a Mardu Queen Marchesa deck, and I'm keen to have more than one deck so the game doesn't get too stale for myself or my opponents.Looking at other Mardu EDH decks it seems like 45-55 of the cards in each are ones I already own, which is great - I have the main staples (e.g. smothering tithe, necropotence, teferi's protection, etc.) and all the Mardu lands (apart from the ABUR duals or off-color lands) and the ramp artifacts.What's a fun commander in Mardu colours? Everything seems fairly enjoyable, whether Tribal (e.g. human, vampire), Aristocrats, or Kaalia "big creatures".I'm aware that Mardu is one of, if not THE worst color combination in EDH, but I don't do cEDH anyway.
>>82318564oh i keep forgetting about the backside also giving death bounce to hand. Nevermind He stays. Thanks, I agree he's way better in equips but I surprisingly get away with a lot of shit in my playgroup with auras instead of artifacts. People get real fucking excited to blow up your sword of fire and ice but not so much your curiosity etc.
>>82318543>tuning an edh deckYou are the type of retard wotc has been catering to these past few years
>>82318585Yeah Id also his ability to move shit around is pretty decent if you have some evasive dudes.
>>82318578>I don't do cEDH anyway>necropotenceHmmm. Anyways, I'm the resident mardu guy in our local. I have Deathtouch Pingers Kelsien, Marchesa thrones, Kaalia.jpg, and Extus Tokens. They're all fun. I refuse to build Edgar and Ser Gwyn is way too fucking expensive but Mardu Knights would be fun.
>>82318543He is honestly very good, he's my main deck that I play at the LGS because it's a battlecruiser deck that has a consistent clock.His back side can be a whole deck in and of itself, as he can give you infinite value with several cards that even white can tutor easily. His frontside makes all of your guys with swords hit twice, which means double sword procs and big damage. I've ramped 3 lands a turn with this deck.Here's my list, it's not optimal because casting good spells at an LGS is unfun for the mouthbreathers.https://www.moxfield.com/decks/FAUY2f35hUm5B0xzTMG-rw
>>82318600Not many, but I do have ardenn in there too who arguable is better for that effect since you can move curses and bad enchants like imprisoned in the moon off.>>82318589I just slapped a bunch of junk together and it durdled a lot and I did nothing. If you think trimming/cleaning the deck up (which can be synonymous with the word tuning) you're retarded and baiting.
>>82318610I never realized that the guy on the right is drawing cuphead bosses.
>>82318604>necro is cEDHDo crawbabies really
>>82318609oh damn spectral steel is super solid. missed that card. Thanks anon.
>>82318634>I pay 20 life, draw 20 cards and win the game immediatelyI mean I assume if you're running such a sweaty card you aren't playing retard tribal.
>>82318604For what it's worth, I don't use Necropotence to draw 30 cards and then smash, I use Necro to make sure my hand is always full if I need it.
>>82318682that's more reasonable but I still don't know how griselbrand is banned but this card isnt.
are there some mono red that are good for longer games?my pod is pretty control heavy, a lot of counters and removal, so not gonna have a good time with anything that runs out of fuel fast (yeah i know that this isn't really good for red)been thinking about neheb and zurzoth mostly
>>82318638If you wanted to make the deck better you would cut some of the top end, I just wanted to jam a bunch of the small creature reanimation/support because I have no other deck to jam them in really.
>>82318347Even better, this one's the shitposter.>>82318589>>Tuning a deck is bad
>>82318652>And win the game immediatelyrtfc
>>82318715>are there some mono red that are good for longer games?Yes
White is fine. Git gud.
>>82318715Theoretically any deck that has recursion in it, so the commander hardly matters. Just play something with recursion or card advantage.
Wilhelt or Varina?
>>82318811Varina if you want more of a toolbox approach, Wilhelt if you just wanna go purely zombie tribal. I like the reach of esper with white's removal options but wilhelt is an insane value engine in and of himself.
>>82318652>win the game immediately>"Put that card into your hand at the beginning of your next end step"Lmao
>>82318880ah sorry, in response to your opponents upkeep you win. My apologies on the 5 second gap sir zoomer.
>>82318715My Diaochan deck is a pseudo control deck, which prefers longer games.
>>82318767Except its not?
>>82318129>TQ>>82318837we're not so different, you and I
>>82318715torb group slug.provided you can get your value pieces out at a semi decent rate, and the monored card draw isnt fucking you sideways, torb only gets more powerful the longer the game goes on with things like sulphuric vortex and manabarb triggers, and enchantments like spellshock and furnace of rath.the objective of this deck is not necessarily to slow the game. the objective is to keep it going at a normal pace until a critical point where casting any spell will cause 8 damage and kill the shitter who used every shock land in his deck.
>>82318897>YOUR next End StepIf your pod lets you survive until your next turn, they and their decks are shit
>>82318929I always pack multiple instances of graveyard hate if I can.
Quick, you must come up with a Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Balloon for Magic. You can choose either a Planeswalker or Color Pie float.Hard mode: no Bolas
>>82319010Jace or Urza, ez
>>82319010Jace bowing to Kaya as she steps on his face
>>82319010Lilliana consorting with demons
>>82318767Yes fine, but leagues behind the other colors. We just want to sit at the same table.
>>82318963>he can't win at instant speed during his opponents upkeep after he draws ~20 cardsPretty sad desu
https://archidekt.com/decks/2091849#Almond_ActivationMy first attempt at making a General Ferrous Rokiric spellslinger list. The idea is to play lots of token generators that trigger off of me playing spells, mainly burn and value creatures, then kill everyone with all the shit I've played.
>>82318129>tfw my praetors showed up after 5 monthsFuck ya they look so good anons. I'm thankful I didnt get foils.
>>82318347i like the squirrelnigger :(
>>82319143>t. Forced meme spammerNo one likes forced memes Christian.
>>82319164I like squirrelbreh too, made an anon so mad he drew diaper fetish.
>>82318765he actually seems cool, got some decks to recommend?
>>82318578>Machineguns your opponent's boardstates with only a thornbite staff and deathtouchNothing personnel, kid
Post a card that explodes people's minds. Last night I copied this salty bastard with progenitor mimic.
>>82319234>made an anon so madDidn't squirrelnigger start seething after that?
>>82319419Yes, for consecutive days.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/balan-wander-land/Alright lads I've piled together a list to give to my friend for Xmas. I can probably throw a little more money into the list since I'm only gonna be spending under $20 to get the shit I'm missing, so I can probably fit a few better equipment/tutors. Any suggestions? Also what should I cut if I wanna bump it up to 34 lands?
30 starting life is objectively superior to 40
>>82319464Do you really want our resident autists to dredge the archive to prove they're right like always, or will you just accept your booty blasting and move on productively to discuss edh, perhaps by posting your cardboard??
Cool if I sit down and play a game?
>>82319338He's so cool looking, too bad he sucks.
>>82319464Wow, I cant believe you actually responded to that weakest bait, I always thought youd be above this kind of banter.
>>8231947410/10 pun.>>82319464>"I wasn't mad, everyone else was!"Shut the fuck up squirrelnigger
I hear you have a Squirrel problem?
>>82319515many such cases
>>82319562Kresh doesn't suck. He usually nets me a kill on the turn he hits the board
>>82319474Steelshapers Gift and Stonehewer Giant would be good
>>82319562kelsien is way jankier than kresh, who at least has the potential to como with so many differen thigs aswell as shitting out value. you need way more specific cards to play kelsien and battlecruiser with a side of voltron is a really janky strat to play
>>82319600Probably sac outlets then Jarad or Chandra's Ignition
>>82318589Tuning ≠ OptimizingYou tune your piano even if you aren't a concert pianist.
>>82319474I uh, I mulliganed like 30 times on the playtester and none of the hands were playable, I'm not joking. If you're playing an equipment deck your creature curve really has to start at 1, and have more playable 2 drops. Cut a bunch of the shit equips as well, they just clog the hand.
>>82319600You're in the colors of +1/+1 counters, double-strike, additional combats, lure, trample, etc
>>82319545>in response to this resolving, I'll pay a black and sacrifice 2 squirrels give him +2/-2Lol problem?
god damn why are so many of his cards so expensive?
>>82319884>in response to this resolvingPlease don't pretend to be dumb, we have some very impressionable tourists
>>82319884>in response to this resolving
>>82319884>squirrelfag can't play the gamecolor me surprised
>>82319884Squirrelfag is a nogame. Surprise surprise
>someone is selling a card $10 less than the average selling price on TCGPLAYER>they only have 6 sales and no reviews Lads... Is it a fake?
>>82319884something something statebased action.
>>82319884>>82319896>>82319899I had a game a year ago where an opponent cast a board wipe and passed priority. When nobody did anything in response, he said "Okay, well, while Blasphemous Act is still on the stack..." and we immediately harangued him for it
>>82319895Because you're in mono brown, which means that the only the way the deck works is by having all the best artifacts.
>>82319545+ Night of Souls Betrayal+ Engineered Plague+ Virulent Plague
>>82319919What did he cast after and why does it matter? He doesn't need to hold priority to cast something else, does he?
>>82319884I'm going to explain this for newfags in case you're not just pretending to be retarded:After a spell resolves, the active player gains priority, not you (yet). Don't be rude and interrupt illegally.Second, no. The squirrels die as a result of a state-based action the next time any player gets priority. Can't sacrifice dead tokens.
>>82319931it would change the order, tough.he basically casts in response to himself after he made sure nobody is answering the act
>>82319970Is that an illegal play? Let's say I casted a board wipe like damnation, then I played a Heroic Intervention to protect my own stuff, would I have to cast the Heroic Intervention after I casted Damnation? Or do I wait for responses then cast it
>>82319010Vraska and Jace love scene float.
>>82319562>>82319592what do you think about pic related in Kresh?seems like such a funky fit but I am uncertain it would get enough value
>played games yesterday>had to explain how regenerate worked>fuck up and think transmute is instant speed>friend flickered out of time and we had to figure out why it wasnt oblivion ring but everything is phased out
>>82319993You can play heroic intervention before or in response. You just need to give your opponents time to respond to each spell as it's cast.
>>82320017>Resolves and dies Cool card
>>82319764What would you recommend adding in terms of creatures?>Cut a bunch of the shit equipsMost of the shitty ones like Greataxe Prying Blade are there as placeholders that he can take out and use some of the better equipment I know he has laying around like Sword of the Animist or Feast and Famine. But if you have any suggestions on which should go first I'm all ears.
>>82320046future sight has the coolest cards, change my mind.
>>82320046Static abilities nigga
>>82320017>3 mana recurrable "Put 8 +1/+1 counters on your commander"You tell me
>>82319993Once you pass priority, and the rest of the table does the same, the stack resolves. You can't cast more stuff after you've passed priority and noone's responded. You can, however, hold priority after casting a spell. The assumption to help speed up games is that you're passing priority after casting a spell, so you have to state that you'll be holding priority. You can cast your damnation, state you'll be holding priority, cast your heroic intervention, then pass priority to the next player. Then you can get blown the fuck out by whirlwind denial.that's how I understand it, but i haven't been playing too long.
>>82320042You have to hold priority and cast intervention in response. If you pass priority with a wipe on the stack, you don't get it back before it resolves.
>>82319831Don't post random cards. Tell me about some games you played and what sequence of plays you did to instakill someone and what turn it was.
>>82319993>>82320110>>82320118its basically like in poker, right?you check, everybody checks after you, you then announce you would like to raise(=change the stack by playing a card) which is an illegal move.
>>82320141Any static toughness boost that affects that elemental will keep it alive.
>>82320216effects that give it tokens on etb also work.the point in Kresh tough would be to have it die state based, no anthems required.
>>82320153>Puts a squirrel token into your handOutskilled
>>82319143Liking squirrel safter they have been memed by Nosewater is already a sign of bad taste, spamming it each thread is a sure sign of being subhuman waste.
>>82320075I apologize if I came off aggressive in my first reply, I just had a hard time expressing concisely that I felt the deck did not work at all.>What would you recommend adding in terms of creatures?Anyone that gives protectiong, Giver, Mother, Caretaker. These are good because they're 1 drops so you can put swords on them, and they can protect your 2 and 3 drops if you don't have equips. Also you want to do things on turn 1. Hopeful Initiate is a new card I'm trying out, seems like it might just never get to remove a thing but it could be good.>Cut a bunch of the shit equipsBefore I get to this I'd cut some other cards: Sisays Ring, Worn Powerstone, Obelisk (You dont want expensive mana ramp in an aggressive deck), if you want this effect play Knight of the White Orchid and the other newer version of it, these are also bodies for equips.Ravnica at War: admittedly I don't know your meta but having a wrath that doesn't always hit the problems is not good.Return to Dust: personal preference, but in 4 years of almost only playing mono white this card is too slow.Temple of the False God: You're an aggressive deck, this alone fucked up a couple of the opening hands I tried. Same goes for taplands.Instants that give protection: some of these are alright but drawing multiple in an opening hand is usually a death sentence.Foundry Inspector+Courser: Danitha has good keywords, these do not. You don't really want to reduce the cost of relatively cheap cards with cards that cost more mana, if you had tutors for Sram+Puresteel these would be better, but those tutors are not in.Refurbish: play another equip instead.Alright, back to cutting bad equips. Most of the ones in there aren't great, but in a pinch I'd stay away from the ones in a >2 equip cost. Having high equip costs makes you a lot slower, and relies on Balan too much. If Balan dies a couple times and you drew into like, Colossus Hammer + Greataxe you end up doing nothing afterwards.
>>82320277>hey tell me some stories about your commander deck in the commander thread?>le ol tism' fellas amirite xD
>>82320183>Don't post random cardsLmao
>>82318268The person fucking exploded into a cloud of red mist.
>>82318268Looks like something grisly happened in some kind of ritual
>>82319931You can cast spells in response to your other spells, but you have to do that before you pass priority and before any other player can respond.If each player passes, the topmost object on the stack resolves.Which is to say, you cannot cast a spell, wait for everyone else to do something, and in case they don't, respond to your spell. You cannot "scout" for counterspells this way.
>>82320341That's clearly fuchsia, anon.
Whenever I cast a spell, I just hold priority and resolve that spell, then pass priority.
>>82320379Fuck off, squirrelnigger.
>Attrition>Mind Slash>Dictate EffectsWhat are some other control-y outlets for an aristocrats deck? I'm in Dimir, so a lot of the utility you'd see from red/green is missing.
>>82320183>Don't post random cards
>>82320484Sadistic Hypnotist is a classic
>>82320292Tokens aren't cardsYou'd know that if you actually played the game
>>82320639>smokestack and boardwipe tribalHow does this deck actually play? Does it take an average 10+ more turns to win because durdle or do you know your win lines?
>>82320639Is this Christian's deck?
>>82320785No fuck you it's my deck>>82320715It's clearly not competitive, and there's only three boardwipes. I mean you can win with combat damage or combo of you want to close the game out.
What's the best way to divide sections in a 800 count BCW cardboard box?
I got a really, really good idea for a deck.Pic rel is my favorite spell.I'm going to build a deck that's entirely centered around casting it as many times as possible.Do i go 5c, or Gay kings?
>>82319562this guy is so cool but I already have so many decks that use my commander as a beatstick/wincon I think Im just stuck as a retarded voltron player
>>82319101Fucking demons is a valid religion
>>82321025fucking cock destroyers
>>82320946You need black at the very least so that you can combo it with Phage.
>>82318933Seconding Torb slug. There are just enough cards that you can effectively punish greed. The more lands and artifacts your opponents play, the harder you can hit them. Draw is the biggest shortcoming. Id even recommend running cycle lands just to give it a little gas.
>>82320592Its a silver uncard. Anon actually can give him the token as long as its a literal paper printed token
>>82321352Going to need a link to MaRo's ruling on this one
>>82321025Do elven women really?
>>82321391You're really asking a stranger to read through a jewish pilpul and fringe format ruling blog on a holiday? You're a sick fuck my dude. also its almost turkey time and I cant be bothered
>>82318933>>82321287that does seem pretty good but i'm afraid it's gonna result in everyone just focusing me, also not sure if its not too strong for my pod
I hope I never become so annoying that people in the general start to see me as a recognizable character
>>82321535Too l8 m8
>>82321535Don't worry anon. The fact that you care about behaving like decent human being means it will probably never happen.
>>82321168>so that you can comboPart of what i want to do with the deck is finding ways to win exclusively with my opponents' permanents
>>82321535I hope i never spend so much time in any general that i recognize the people there
>>82321680Here is your commander
>>82321728Check again bro.
>>82321738How does playing cards from my opponents' hands help me cast Shattered identity over and over again?Sen triplets doesn't even have green, i need that for regrowth effects.
>>82322135just build degenerate bantshit like the usual primal amulet + fogs + regrowth effects
>>82318715I thought Neheb was going to be just explosive. And he is but the deck is resilient. I have bounced back from counters to my big spells, getting my commander killed a few times and still won because the amount of mana I made doing silly burn spells into multiple combats into bigger burn spells. Eventually everyone will run out of ways to stop you or they will kill you.
>>82322135Wouldn't you just loop Archaeomancer with Deadeye Navigator like every other fag out there?
>>82320488I considered doing this but also getting all the cards signed. The real pain will be the Rush and Hoover drawn angels.
>>82320639>>82320488gib tier 4 - 5, 2 or 3 players angels deck ideas pls angels anon
I have a friend who runs Extraplanar Lens and snow lands in every single deck. Is that cringe?
>>82322792It's fine. Removing it is a pretty big dent in ramp.
Does Mindbreak Trap check if your opponents IN TOTAL have collectively cast 3+ spells this turn, or is it if any opponent has cast 3+ spells individually? I'm assuming the latter, but wanted to confirm.
>>82322979its the former actually
>>82321561>My name is DaveSpooky
>>82322979Yes, it's the latter. If it were the former, it would say "If your opponents"
how jewish is your lgs? Mine takes 40% of whatever you trade in and has the audacity to upmark their shit 20-30% of whatever the median price is on tcg
>>82323173That's how literally every store that buys things from customers operates. Game stores, video games, pawn shops, car lots.
>>82323173My lgs offers 50% MSRP when buying and sells at MSRP. This falls in line with pretty much every store in the area. They're not jewey at all selling sealed. I don't buy sealed but they do things like take additional percentages off each prerelease pack after the first until you get a free one and selling package deals that include free product.
Why is EDH the best format?
>>823235034v4 format takes off the competitive edge allowing a wider range of playstyles.
>>82323503because it's not magic, duh.
>>82318268A man is being transmuted into strawberry jam.
>>82322196thanks for the input, will start checking him out more seriously because that seems to fit what i want perfectly
>>82323173Considering Face to face exist in my city and everything else is still Somehow equally as shit at giving me good deals as Face to face, I might as well b living in a shit hole.
If a creature is enchanted with multiple Totem Armor spells, do they all get removed at the same time or just one per destruction?
>>82323766you probably choose one replacement effect to apply
mono Rgrixisbantjundwhich of these decklists I have been sitting on for a while do I build?
Thoughts on my wife?
>>82323926Grixis, Bant, Jund and Mono R in that order.
>>82323945Literal emasculation of my boy. Go die in a ditch maro.
>>82323677>Manaform Hellkite still at 200% median price even after accounting for the conversion to Canadian pesostabarnak Jeux Face à Face
How good is she really? In Wilhelt she seems like a slam dunk since she can turn decayed zombies into regular ones
>>82323945Never ceases to amaze me how WotC can't get the artists they hire to draw the characters consistently. If it wasn't for the dress, it'd be impossible to know that was Olivia. The art is still really damn good, but that's a regular fail among many mtg characters
>>82322979>one of the best cards ever printed >a single printing from over a decade ago and at mythic sasuga wotc
>>82324008She's better for playing big guys and turning them into many smaller ones. Aiming for critical mass. Wilhelt, I've never seen the deck, but I'd wager he's better to set up an early sac engine. Guess it all depends on your plan.
>>82324035>one of the best cards ever printed
>>82322158Nice! Unusual Archetype for this color on an rarely seen Commander, also not 99% Staples. Really like it
>>82324008>in WilheltThen you have access to blue, which means Intruder Alarm, which goes with Phyrexian Altar and any lord (or even Coat of Arms) to get infinite ETB/LTB triggers off of her ability. Or just an arbitrarily large number of zombies.
I'm I in for a good time?
>>82324080See, I'm trying to stay entirely zombie flavored. Phyrexian Altar is fine but Intruder Alarm isn't making the flavor cut
>>82324059I mean it’s the only good trap card in the game and I’m still very upset they won’t make more even after 2 return to Zendikar sets and even DnD
>friend has been playing niv miz for a decade >updates to the new one>it’s the most cancerous casual deck I’ve played against since leovoldI have some idea of how to deal with him but how the hell is a deck that’s not expecting to play against this supposed to even have a chance?
>>82324158nevermore goes in every deck
>>82324096>A Phyrexian device is fine, but a different Phyrexian device isn't
Thoughts on my bro?
>>82324202Your bro is also my bro. Does that make us bros?
>>82324202A fine bro and a good addiction to most zombie decks.
>>82324158What colors do you normally play? I too have a niv problem. I personally just play clones or land hate all of 1 color from the niv player. 3 blue 3 red is a tall order when you kill 2 of one of the they have less of
>>82324158>6 colored pipsYou have at least 5 turns to find / mull for your Eidolon of Rhetoric, kill him at instant speed, or just bounce the spell.Longer if they try to cast him AND a curiosity effect. I understand the uncounterable is annoying but what can you do
>>82324158>RPyroblast, Red Elemental Blast, Chaos Warp and worse case scenario 2 for 1 bolting it>UReality Shift, Resculpt, Fading Hope, Chain of Vapor or any other bounce spell. Consider Imprison in the Moon which basically hoses izzet because unless they have a counterspell or a bounce spell they lack enchantment removal.>BDoomblade and it's alternatives, Deadly Rollick, Toxic Deluge and its alternatives, Oubliette for aforementioned enchantment reasons>GBeast within and fight effects or just beating face and killing the izzet player before they can get to their commander. Alt, use kenriths transformation or any of the green transform spells like song of the dryads. Also, consider something like unstable obelisk because ya it costs 7 to kill but you can ramp to that in like 3 turns>WSwords, Path, Darksteel Mutation, etc.play more removal lulW
>>82324317this nigga has never played against niv I see
>>82324337this nigga has never played removal I see
>>82324366>cast removal on Niv>Niv player draws a card>Niv player counters your removal>Niv player draws a card
>>82324298Whining to us about this won't make white "better". Go play white in other formats where it's a powerhouse.
>>82323173they do like 50 or 60% and price most singles by ebay listings. not bad at all; one of the guys laughed about the other store offering a kid less for his pokemon cards as a whole than he gave the kid for one card
>>82324404>41 dollaredoosmh2 was a mistake and so was modern
>>82324148Zombies are played-out. 1-shot commander damage with exile mill and graveyard hate is kino
>>82324386>Let player get to UUURRR plus mana for counterspellSounds like you need to remove their mana rocks and counter their spells. Alternatively, you could also play stax or land destruction. Play removal ;^)
>>82324420And so was not expanding the reserve list. Just imagine if all the fetchlands were in it. Magic would be much better without poors crying about luxurious cardboard.
>>82324441>plus mana for counterspell
>>82324420>set needs a reprint as soon it comes outdoes wizards really?
>>82324459>And so was not expanding the reserve list. Just imagine if all the fetchlands were in itwould unironically make the game better desu and modern would be finally playable
>>82324439Took the words right outta my mouth. Umbris still looks like shit, sadly.
>>82324459You have to make your bait at least a little less obvious.
>>82324477listen buddy its been a slow day and I have a quota to meet
>>82324473does anyone have that one scp entry with this pic?
>>82324486They can't require you to work on Thanksgiving, can they?
>>82324480>do anything at all
>>82324463ok and? just have the blue player counterspell that, or the white player get a stax piece on board, or let the green player beat face lol. play removal :^)
>>82324508Use the image search to google it.
>>82324516>all of which draw the Niv player more cards, and thus more responses
>>82324509>he doesnt know
how do you build her in a way that isn’t solitaire?
>>82324508Wait, that's an scp?
>>82324561You don't. She directly discourages running interaction of your own other than things that protect your combo.
>>82324561>commander is basic bitch izzet spellslinger/storm>hurr durr how do I build her?!?
What are some jank decks that don't play the same every game?
>>82324541so the niv mizzet player you play against always happens to draw, in order, fierce guardianship, force of will + blue card and always has mana to cast said cards? And your playgroup does nothing to stop them, no dranith magistrates, no silence, no vow of silence or rule of law, nothing? I think the simple answer here is that you play more removal + stax then ;^)
>>82324464I mean on the one hand, fetch lands have been at their most affordable in years On the other hand, holy hell wotc can go suck a second hand corncob for printing a 1 drop mythic pushed to the point it’s worth 100$
>>82324441>rrruuuThat’s painful easy though
>>82324809>he bought ze monke?>ban eet
>>82324284I played gw cats, 5c goodstuff and mono blueCats won pretty easily i had a really good opener but 5c and blue are so dependent on instants and sauceries I just couldn’t come back once I was behind.
>>82324630I want to say arcanis combo rubiks cube but a lot of the time it just wins off mind over matter
>>82324290>fire design is so cancerous you have to search for draw hate every game or just lose Hopefully they stop printing stuff like this
>>82324822It’s so fucking funny but also so fucking stupid. It’s gotta be on purpose how they made sure the jewelled lotus of a modern horizon based on something that would be east to meme on Then again, wouldn’t be the first time monke has been FORBIDDEN’d
>>82324317>lulWZoomers really are this retarded
>>82324863they just need to drop the fire bullshit and start putting hate on literally every card for the next 3 sets until there is enough hate across the colors to effectively counteract all the bullshit
>>82324883Great game wotc
>>82324480Well that is a very good looking young man
>>82324883They did that for decades until like around the 2010’s because people got mad at being told to not play magic.
>>82324512>playing magic the gathering
>>82324916color hate needs to come back it was pure kino
>>82324879sheesh bro, you don't have to be so harsh man like no cap that kinda hurt my feelings bro like widepeepohardCOCK like it was actually kinda monkaS vro baka oh ya bro you see that new japanese star wars set called kamigawa or something? shit looks bussing frfr no cap
>>82324158Man, if only there was a way to put cancerous commanders into their owners' libraries...
>>82324939Didn't the rule change mean you can choose to put your commander back to the command zone against tuck effects?
>>82324883>and start putting hate on literally every cardHere's your hate cardt. Wizards
>>82324927I miss some of that too. Funny enough, they kinda did a throwback to color hate in that one core set a few years ago that was nice. Also even funnier, one of the best new modern horizon cards was this fucking thing that just eats ass in the sideboard Clearly the ability is there. They just don’t have the will and wanna Larp as MaRo/Mr people like free shit, right?
>>82324964>putting draw hate on a blue cardwhat the actual fuck were they thinking?
>>82324977 the anatomy is fucked up and her left leg is way too short
>>82324158>how the hell is a deck that’s not expecting to play against this supposed to even have a chance?Literally just have to kill the player. It sucks but that’s at Least that
>>82324979>fuck card draw>but also we ride and die for blue and blue likes drawing cards>hmm >I GOT IT>makes hullbreacher >put it in a commander focused set. >gets banned there anyway.
Would he be decent in the 99 of a humans deck with a +1/+1 counter subtheme? I like him, but he may not curve out as well as I need him to.
>>82324964I suddenly don’t really hate this card too much
>>82325024>triggers based on combat damage to a player>4 MVLiterally just use Rick LMAO
>>82324964>lol what if we just made another Notion Thief except took away the black pip so it can go in any blue deck and replaced the card draw with treasures so the blue player can have more mana for counterspells and combos?>also, let's make a splashable 3-drop black card with flash that lets you control your opponents' searches and then YOU get the card after spending potentially 5+ minutes just looking through their deckLike, would it have been so bad to give Hullbreacher and Agent 1 more colored pip or have "you may play this card as though it had flash if (condition is met/pay X)"?
>>82321168>Phage the Untouchable>Not Possibility Storm
>>82325024not worth using without ukkima desu
>>82324480i used to wonder why old cartoons depicted niggers with big red lipsnow i know why
>>82324561>Not solitaireCan't do that for ya budI like her as an eggs deck.
>>82324561The design literally encourages you to just draw cards and use whatever happens impulsively. Solitaire is the go-to for this type of thing since it uses both.....BUT.If I had to give an answer, since it replaces the draw effect, I would find some way to copy Wheel spells, like, fifteen times on the stack, and use countermagic "drawn" to deal with instant-speed interaction between them.
>>82319970They can answer his answer, it changes nothing.
>>82325794A player could cast a board wipe, then cheat this way to scout for countermagic. When they see that their gameplan would not be interrupted, then they can play Intervention to save their stuff.If they play both at once, they need to commit to their entire plan on the spot.>>82324420captcha related.
>>82318326Retarded hands typed this post
>>82319931He does, actually.
Is casting Nevermore on an opponent's cancer commander a dick move or the absolute height of pragmatism?
>>82325849Wiping the board and wiping it while saving your stuff are two different game plans. In most cases, i would definitely let the board wipe go, but counter the intervention. They're two completely different plans, and i don't see how it helps 'scouting for countermagic'. Everyone will get the opportunity to answer his spells again.
*dodges command tax*
Commander for this feel?
>>82319074Is that a JoJo reference?
>>82326018Filename was so funny I didn't dare change it. Straight from Google
>>82325944I run both Nevermore and Null Chamber in my Dromoka goodstuff/enchantress pile. Real good. Decks that rely on their commanders to win are bad.
>nevermore the urzafag>it doesnt matter and he goes infinite t3
>>82325996>dodges command tax>deals damage to the whole table>takes an extra turn>counters your response>combos off>wins and leaves>refuses to elaborate
>>82326066>casts Rip Apart on your Nevermorenothing personal
>>82326082How did they make such a based cutie flavorful commander?
>>82325985>They're two completely different plansExactly.When you cast the wipe, the rest of the table acts without knowledge that you have Heroic Intervention in hand. They key problem with your scenario is that you're acting as if the rest of the table will always know that an Intervention is coming, but that's not a reasonable assumption. Besides that not being how the game is played, why would it be reasonable for the wiping-player to have one specific card in the game, but not for the wiping-player to be facing down three players with countermagic. In terms of how the rest of the table operates, for all they would know, they would need to act on the knowledge that a player is casting a wipe !!alone!! and act accordingly, while the wiping-player has a moment can prod their chances from the rest of the table.If they act on this assumption, the wiping-player can hold up Heroic Intervention for some later turn if they decide their board isn't worth saving and would rather Veil of Summer instead.TL;DR: The countermagic-players will act according to the board wipe because they don't know about the Intervention.
New thread, migrate when you're done here.>>82326115You can thank this fag >>82326083 for it being made so early.
>>82326107>When you cast the wipe, the rest of the table acts without knowledge that you have Heroic Intervention in handWhy should they have knowledge about a card that is in your hand? i'm not saying they should assume anything; they should know your cards only when they're cast. >they would need to act on the knowledge that a player is casting a wipe !!alone!! and act accordinglyExactly. Why would they act against something that is not cast yet? They can deal with the intervention-- or not, when it's cast. >while the wiping-player has a moment can prod their chances from the rest of the table If he assumes that they don't have counterspells based on not answering the wipe, that's his mistake. Some people care about board wipes, others don't. However, everyone cares about him keeping his board.
>>82326300>Why should they have knowledge about a card that is in your hand?Yes. Exactly. They shouldn't. That's why I typed "withOUT knowledge." The table would only act as if the wipe was being cast and gauge accordingly.>They can deal with the intervention-- or not, when it's cast.The problem is that, in our hypothetical game with robots, they're not acting when it's cast - they're acting before the Intervention gets cast. That's the problem.>If he assumes that they don't have counterspells based on not answering the wipe, that's his mistakeIf you stop playing spells with the assumption that they'll get countered, you've effectively given the opponent a free turn.But to bring that point back to our scenario, if a player casts a board wipe and it gets countered, they can use the Intervention later. I.E. when they have another board wipe in hand.
>blow 4 lands with this, grenzo and the jilad stylusI love land destruction
>>82326471>The table would only act as if the wipe was being cast and gauge accordinglyYeah, they had the chance, and they didn't. >they're acting before the Intervention gets castThey're acting before AND after. >If you stop playing spells with the assumption that they'll get countered, you've effectively given the opponent a free turn.I didn't say you shouldn't play spells, i said he shouldn't assume anything. >if a player casts a board wipe and it gets countered, they can use the Intervention laterand if a player has a counterspell in hand and dosn't care about the board wipe, he can fuck him up by countering after he plays intervention.
>>82326005Mutate decks, I guess.
>>82321507if you play the deck right and pace your value pieces right, by the time people realize you are a threat it will be too late. in the ideal world you arent putting all of your kill threat on the board at the same time.it is like how frogs don't realize they are getting boiled alive on a stove top because the temperature slowly rises and they adjust.torb group slug scales with every skill level desu. it counters cEDH infinite combos by causing damage on ability taps or infinite casts, but it also has plenty of hate for more casual decks.