He-Man edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>82303868 >Official AoS websitehttps://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/>AoS BattletomesIaJWXIrT#B-pdno4pmA5dz3u83Mxo_A>/YourDudes/ Fluff#F!JPo1ATAZ!Dc8C0HngNOwI3jE7jMhxSA>Soulbound and Supplements3xNgTJIJ#N3K-RvcMwGWPCVXW2qDaqw>AoS Books and Audiobookshttps://mega.nz/folder/Wjg2HSrK#nLgjQdhQodTxDCNKAnMRAA(Deadlink)One day these will be fixed.>Toolswarhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://repl.it/repls/ShockingNegligibleSpecialistnofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psdhttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creatorhttps://aosg.github.io/>Thread question:Post some conversions you did or cool ones you've seen online
>>82310958Not mine, but so amazing I had to save it.I present you the great unclean Scott.
>>82310958>>82311012Also, so simple I'd hardly call it a conversion but it redeems something I consider to be a bad looking unit.I think they literally used a pencil sharpener here.
>>82311041Personally i prefare the elf-less version
>>82310958>TQJust made this a few hours ago
>>82310958>TQI'll post a few I've been doing. I really like conversions.
>>82311497And then this is the one I'm currently working on
>>82311041Such a nice and simple change makes a hell of a difference. God, I wish Lumineth would've turned out with slightly more sensible sculpts.
>>82311650Majority of them are just normal dudes, only temples get funny hats
>>82312156The other Lumineth largely have issues I'd rather not have to convert away for me to like the models fully.
The Doomwheel is oddly cheap (for GW, that is)Is there something bad about the kit
>>82312388Probably an age thing
>>82312388The arachnarok and ghorgon are both cheap too for the size of the model. In particular the arachnarok. It’s like 58 dollars or something and it’s a huge model that’s like 300 points in its best build
In the concept stage of a Slaves To Darkness army>Overall theme is "The Great Gatherer", Chaos as a scavanger, worshiped by the Corvus Cabal>Leader will be the witch from the Godsworn Hunt riding on the back of the new Kruleboyz giant vulture, counts as sorcerer lord on manticore>Will include Mournfangs, each with two Corvus Cabalists riding it double dash style, counts-as Varanguard>Primary troops will be Chaos Warriors and a block of Corvus Cabal>A Stonehorn with Corvus Cabalists will count as a Chaos WarshrineMost of the fun in this hobby for me is converting, which is why I even consider projects like this. Buying the Slaves To Darkness and Beastclaw Raider start collectings from my FLGS on friday.Only question is color schemes: I don't want to do just black armor on my Chaos Warriors, because that's pretty boring, so I'm considering them all having metallic red armor to contrast against the black while keeping in the theme and aesthetic.
>>82313361SO STOP LOOKING AT TWITTER AND POSTING SCREENCAPS OF TWITTER YOU FUCKING BRAIN-DEAD MORONYOU ARE CAUSING YOUR OWN FUCKING PROBLEMS>I stuck my hand into the toaster, and now I am burned! I'm so tired of this happening!SO DON'T FUCKING DO IT>oh but anooon ignoring problems doesn't make them go awaaaaay NEITHER DOES BITCHING ABOUT THEMTHERE WILL ALWAYS BE FUCKING MORONS IN THIS WORLD (LIKE YOU FOR INSTANCE) AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM SO JUST STOP LOOKING AT DUMB SHIT
>>82310958I have asked this once and I will ask again. Where can I find coomer Slaaneshi demons?If my conversion ideas don't work out I'll just get coomer demons instead of the silly GW sculpts.
>>82313423>twitter influences GWDoes it?It's really annoying to talk about this since despite being cearly on topic the jannies will often give bans.
>>82313423You're a fucking retard. You are the dumbest motherfucker on Earth. Read what you just typed:>you can't not pay attention because their cancer will inevitably seep inSo, you're suggesting that somehow your perception of these shitty Tweets will alter the outcome? Is this the dumbfuck idiot retard's version of the Observer Effect? "If I'm there to get worked up over something, it won't happen"? Fucking moronic. 210% idiot behaviour. You should be ashamed for making this post, and trying to justify the irrational act of seeking out things that upset you.
>>82313361Does anyone actually unironically think of the Jews when they see Chaos Dwarfs? Why do people feel the need to see the worst in everything?
>>82313485>Why do people feel the need to see the worst in everything?You're posting in the "see the worst in everything" capital of the internet; you should know.
>>82313509Uh, hey, dumbfuck: Did you happen to notice that I haven't defended or agreed with a single thing in that Tweet? That I only bitched about you bringing Twitter bullshit over to 4chan, where it doesn't belong, and then whining about it? Can you perhaps piece together these large, early-childhood-education-sized puzzle pieces to realize why exactly it is that I'm chewing you out? Hint: You are stupid.
>>82313534>Uh, hey, dumbfuck: Did you happen to notice that I haven't defended or agreed with a single thing in that Tweet?No need, your ridiculously enraged post already outs you. Also got a warning within 1 (one) minute of replying to you so it's pretty fucking obvious. YWNBAW janny.
Why the fuck do fyreslayers get a 4+ ward save on basic battleline that have 2 wounds and can run and charge across the board turn 1? Thats not a single unit either. Thats the entire army. An effective range of like 24 inches turn 1.
>>82313748The result of being fucking ugly
>>82313748Deploy outside their range and redeploy if you have to.
Hey so my store's having a $20% off Black Friday sale and I thought I'd have them hold the white Lumineth launch box for me to pick up then, so I'll be picking it up for around $160 after tax, which is what all of the plastic inside retails for. After I did this tho, I came to learn that the Army Book inside is apparently old/outdated. But I'm also oblivious as to how Battletomes work have read that it's still valid if I also pick up the Teclis book. I'm kind of confused.It's taken me a long time to come around to AoS (long story, bitter WFB grog) and I thought I might be getting a neat deal on something cool but if the book is just entirely useless then I dunno where I'm at.
>>82314217Second book is the same shit with second wave warscrolls
>>82314248Okay, so it'll be valid for mydudes that I'm getting in the box. That's neat to hear; not what I'm used to coming from other GW games with complete overhauls each edition. Does this mean the neat cards I get in the launch box are still valid?
>>82313748That's only Vostarg and after they charge they can't do fucking anything. It's probably the worst of all the subfactions except maybe Lofnir.
>>82313102This sounds so unbelievably cool. Don’t forget to share results and progress.
>>82313429Ghamak had plenty of coomer models (he's Italian, he can't help it). Bestiarum had daemonettes with their tits rocking out, but they aren't coomer models per se.
>>82314277>Does this mean the neat cards I get in the launch box are still valid?I believe so. You can corroborate with the AoS app, it has all the war scrolls in the game. You could also compare with the newer book which can be found in the OP's mega
I played my first game with skaven a couple of days ago, and they seem really fun. I don't think AoS is my WAAC game, so I can deal with the fact that they're not good when there are this many interesting decisions to make.
>>82313748Nobody runs that subfaction anyways so you don't have to worry about itAlso, the 4+ ward is conditional, kill the hero and they lose it. Most of their heroes have 5 wounds and no ward, sometimes they'll bring a drake that's a bit tougher, but unless your list lacks any ranged tech whatsoever you should have some options to take them out. If you don't, just try to speed bump the dwarfs with lines of chaff, but don't charge them, make them charge you or walk around you. Charging them just gives them a free pile in and combat phase to move and kill you
>>82314600what units did you have
Soulblight Gravelords vs Lumineth. Give me the rundown.
>>82314812Both can be unfun to play against but with soulblight you gotta try to be unbearable where as lumies you can easily blunder into fun killer build.
>>82314812Zombies ignore the anti-charge spears, but the 20-30 sentinels snipe off the important heroes and Teclis mops up the rest.
If I translocate an annihilator squad, does it refresh the reroll charges portion of this ability? I know it obviously doesn't refresh the first bit but is the second half of the ability an independent clause?
>>82314384I'm not perverted, I'm just Italian
>>82315228Yes, different peoples have different habits and customs.Italy is a beautiful country with great food. But I'd go crazy if I lived there.
>>82315383It's a great place to holiday but yeah, sucks to live in.
>>82315072No the entire clause is based on the condition in the first sentence hence the in addition. If only the third sentence is read it cannot be in addition to anything.
>>82315481how is it different from this one with two separate clauses that are independent of each other?
>>82310958>TQMy tyrant went really well
>>82315585Yeah i read it completely wrong my bad. thought it was a different ability.
>>82315631So I can translocate and ghur battlemage for another 7" rerollable charge every turn in magical christmasland?
>>82289429skullcrushers are mortals, silly
>>82315645Sure if the other rules allow it.
>>82310958>TQI always thought my self made Skaven BSB looked kinda neat, despite it being super simple. Good times in AoS1 when you still had it...
>>82314812Undead vs knife ears. The choice is obvious
Was it kino?
>>82312725>>82312388Same with the vampire dragon on zombie lord (vlozd), almost biggest model of SBGL. Only costs 50 euros.
>>82310958I did these quite awhile back. Then I bought a bunch of plumes planning to make an army out of them, before the second wave hit. Probably won't buy more now, since I just like the bladelord models more (though they're both kind of crap on the table).
>>82315833Those look amazing anon! Where did you get the plumes from?
>>82315852They're from 40k custodes.Was using the leftovers for bladelords, but put it on haitus for a bit. Probably will get around to painting them soonish.
>>82315797Too much for GW that's why they had to squat it and blame the chuds who voted brexit
>>82313485And so what if they are? Its not like they create the models to be offensive, no one would buy them if that would be the case, chorfs are cool and should look like picthey are not even fucking jewish they have mesopotamian/babylonian traits.
>>82310958>TQA necromancer stand-in I did. Legs are chaos sorcerer lord, rest is a mix of skeleton warrior/grave guard (and hexwraith scythe).Greenestuffed the hood and tiny cape
>>82315587Did you make him taller or is he just a little Ogor?
>>82315934>Chorfs are mentioned 3 times in the Orruk BattletomesZharr-Naggrund chads... We're back...
>>82315999they never left my heart
>>82314812Both pretty versatile with multiple decent builds. Lumineth currently have THE 2 most toxic and hated units in the game with their archers and fox spirits, but everything else is mostly pretty balanced and fun. A lot to do in the hero phase, your turns can take a long time as you manage a million interactions and buffs. Otherwise pretty standard fantasy military with shield wall infantry, fast cav, some elite melee units, and some artillery and monsters. Fairly elite, probably between 50 to 70 models for a full listSoulblight can range from hyper elite monster mash lists to literally flooding the field with 200 zombies and both are strong lists. They have arguably the best cavalry in the game with blood knights, they have some super strong force multiplier heroes like mannfred and radukar the beast, and some solid support like the corpse carts. They play less around their resurrection mechanics than they used to, but its still there. Unfortunately for a lot of people, skeletal units are most of the worst units in the book, with black knights being quite bad, a wight kind being hard to justify, graveguard being obscenely slow, and skeleton warriors being only situationally useful. In Almost all other situations, more zombies, wolves, and blood knights are the better play. There is also a coven that just goes all in on big fucking dragons and makes them nastyBoth are pretty good though and have wide rosters that are good for collectors
>>82315995He's about a head taller than a regular bull.Added height under the feet, at the waist and neck.
>>82316036>Lumineth currently have THE 2 most toxic and hated units in the game with their archers and fox spiritsA single unit of each isn't bad, but if people skew their lists towards them it gets really painful. I honestly don't know how GW wants to balance them either without making them completely useless. I guess remove the spell of the sentinels and give their LOS shit the same stipulation that their artillery has to follow to the +1? From the Foxes remove the movement in the enemy shooting phase, I guess.
>>82316099GW won't nerf warscroll rulesthey will just get nerfed into oblivion with point values
>Hey kid wanna see a trick?
>>82316167The archers could go up to 200 pts per 10 and still be worth taking 30 of them. They hard counter like 90% of the armies in the game except for a few God units and some monster armies, they are just too good at what they do and have zero counterplay apart from bringing heroes with 20 wounds that can't be insta killed and there are a lot of armies like nighthaunt that just can't muster any kind of answer to them. You can't hide behind terrain, they have board wide range,and they deal half their damage in mortals so they don't give a fuck about your armor save
Cavalry should go on round bases instead of ovals. This is a fact. It looks better and plays better.
>>82316167In 40k they started buffing warscroll rules with the last balance patch. So it might change.
>>82316235It works here because he's stanfing on 2 legs. If he was horizontal instead of vertical the base would look too small
>>82316248No it still looks better.
>>82316235cavalry should go on 40k biker bases
>>82316253lotr minis are tiny
>>82316279They're using truescale instead of heroic scale. They kinda look nice in their own way.
>>8231626240k doesn't use biker bases anymore, but I agree, at least those have flat sides so they don't suck as much as ovals when playing with a cavalry unit.
>>82316286Most of the lotr range still looks really fucking good considering they are reaching 20 years old. They sure look much better than most warhammer models from that era.
>Sold my 2 untouched SM Indomitus halves>Used the money to buy 3 Maggotkin Start CollectingsNurglebros... it's time.Has anyone ever used the flying Blightlords though? Hope they get better rules in the next wartome.
>>82316301Perry bros mog oldhammer
>>82316312The leaks are starting to come out, and though we haven't seen them yet we are likely to in the next few weeks. Blightkings already got a buff to their weapon profile
>>82316313Yeah their shit is pretty kino
>>82316369Iron Hills aren't Perry work tho, long gone by that time.Great range though.
>>82316376Ah, I see.I have zero knowledge about the LotR range, these just looked nice at my local AoP.
>>82316369>>82316374>>82316377It's amazing how the iron hills dwarves are all I'd wish warhammer dwarfs were in AoS but instead we get naked fire babies, steampunk dwarfs and the classic dwarfs get completely shafted into CoS.
>>82311187>Blissbarb Snek PussyGlory be to Slaanesh.
>>82316419luv me sum snek grills
>>82316382>but instead we get naked fire babies, steampunk dwarfs Yeah they're fucking kino, particularly the latter>and the classic dwarfs get completely shafted into CoS.A shame but they'll be fixed when TOW comes out
>>82316468Don't get me wrong, I like KO, but they can't replace classic mountain dwarves. They work well as a spin off, but you need something for them to spin off of. But fyreslayers are just dumb, they took a very popular an interesting part of dwarf lore and butchered it and the models don't even look good.
I hope the LRL river temple has a serpent motif. The Hysh faction not having a single serpent on them is a slip-up.
>>82316498The serpents are teh dragons.
I have a small force of Stormcast, but haven't played a game in years - no one really to play with. Has anyone bought the new stormcast book, and is that expensive piece of shit worth it for art/lore/getting interested in the game again?
>>82316523>and is that expensive piece of shit worth it for art/loreAbsolutely not, new books cost more despite being downgrades in content. Get your rules off wahapedia
How is Miss Woodmech without spite revenant support? I'd rather build my revenants as the far cooler looking kind.
>>82313500>You're posting in the "see the worst in everything" capital of the internetThis isn't twitter. But certainly a close second.
>>82316468I want an upgrade kit with helmets like those masks.
>>82316523Don't bother buying, just look for the scans that got posted
I'm thinking of organizing a PtG/slow grow campaign and was thinking of some houserules to make it more interesting:>Each player starts with a unit champion with +4 wounds and HERO keyword>First game is a free for all dungeon where the players fight for resources and the main objective>Each resource collected roll a die: 1-5 increase a characteristic (stats or weapons) on a 6 get to choose from the champion rewards table, max 2.>Everyone gets a command trait and artefact after first game>Second game everyone gets 1 unit and 1 followers reward to represent the loyal core of the warband>After every other game everyone gets to add up to 250 points to their list, unspent points carry over. First unit is included in points cost>Every other game, alternating with above, you get a stat increase/champion reward. Roll as before.>Once players hit 750, 1250, 1750 they get an additional artefact. They can't stack effects like 6+ ward and 5+ ward becoming 4+. Only one weapon artefact allowed.Just some preliminary ideas. Any suggestions?
>>82316570She gets played by herself most of the time anyway, she's strong and Spite Revenants are...blah.
>>82316699>Each player starts with a unit champion with +4 wounds and HERO keywordNo real thoughts but I miss when they sort of attitude was the norm. I got into AoS with a box of Stabbas and played games of skirmish, then low point AoS proper. I remember the rules saying that anyone could qualify as a general so it made sense. Now I just see kids come into the lgs and get told 2k or bust.
>>82316036Yeah Lumineth is cancer: the army. Sentinels and Foxes needed to be nerfed into oblivion.
>>82316769It's best for newbies to start off with a slow grow league or something.Asking new dudes to get 2k off the bat is plain insanity.
>>82316769I remembered playing a similar campaign as a kid in WHFB where everyone started as an elite unit champion. In my case it was bretonnian questing knight, and i had a lot of fun with it. The supplies we gathered added to a pool of points we got to use on magic items after the first mission. Throughout the campaign the character got stat upgrades to match Paladins and Lords. AoS works a lot differently so getting the same feel is finicky
>>82316769I think your suggestions seem fun! I would look into the base building/casualties rules that the vanilla PtG offers tho. We started a campaign with the 3 of us and so far it has been a blast, legit the most fun I had in AoS so far, especially since the quest/basebuilding system really makes a game loss sting less, since they are good about giving you stuff either way. Pic related, its the 3 generals for our game, fighting for an enchanted vale somewhere in Ghyran. Well... the Lizards and Elves are fighting for that, the Greenskins just want a proper kerfuffle. >>82316769I honestly blame AoS fan coverage for it. You always see 2k pitched battle points and mostly the same lists. Try to get some good people and do some narrative stuff!
>>82316922whoops, meant to reply to >>82316699 as well
Has anybody got pdfs or epubs of the last few Warhammer Horror stories?
>>82316922>ook into the base building/casualties rules that the vanilla PtG offersWill do, thanks for the heads up. I was thinking a campaign map with conquering territories and forging alliances would be a cool addition if i got enough players. Having 3 groups of 3 players facing each other would make interesting narratives especially if multiplayer games are a possibility. Making custom subfactions too. So many ideas, so little free time...
>>82316922>I honestly blame AoS fan coverageSo true. If you look online you only see the most vehement tournament goers talking about things. I think the game would be way better if they all stuck to tts or something.
Can someone help me list build with the new dragon models? They look pretty fun but I don't know how stormcast works and if it's worth taking the big wizard one for some casting or not. It looks like it'll be like 3 boxes of stormdrake either way
>change Age of Sigmar and 40k to be more game-ified and less simulation>More streamlined, less character customization>Focus on named heroes or heroes with fixed loadouts instead of building your own>Everyone becomes a tourneyfagYou can still obviously do Narrative battles but they're the exception not the norm (especially in online discussion)
>>82317256Three ways to play>2k matched play competitive cunt games >Losing said games because you didn't netlist >Not playing
>>82317271It's also unfortunate that the both the best looking models and the strongest are typically named heroes
>>82310958>TQNothing amazing, but I had fun making them
>>82316688I generally dislike reading PDF's on PC, hard to flip through them and really like what you're reading, but I guess I can take a look.
How about flying bloodletters for Khorne?
>>82317181Its a valid part of AoS and its good that it is around. But when I see casuals like MWG always running some tourney stuff, it gets kinda stale. Although their narrative campaigns are actually some good fun.
>>82317457Why? If khorne needs an extended roster, I think khorngors would be a better place to start.
>>82317474how about flying Khorngors?
STOP BEING MEAN TO THE PLAYTESTERS!!!Just because they dont play the armies they give feedback about and dont prepare anything ahead of their livestreams isnt a good enough reason for you to criticize them!!!
>>82317523The state of AoS balance hahahah
>>82317523>Playtesters who don't actually play the fucking game more than a couple time and don't apply actual statistics /probability to determine the efficiency of units
>>82317548>dragon rider wears dragon scale mantleThis is kinda morbid, isn't it? Like making a leather belt out of your brother-in-law or something.
>>82317548More like no news.They could repost Gav Thorpe's shitty fyreslayer conversions and it would still be better content than this.
>>82317589The design team has been retarded with that sort of thing recently>Wears a Gryphhound pelt with you Gryphhound next to you
>>82317600That Gryphound died protecting him, he now wears him as a mantle out of memory and respect to his old friend, it's not a trophy.
>>82317600Why do autists assume animals have some sort of racial brotherhood or some shitEspecially predatory ones have you ever seen two opposing packs meet?
>>82317600>Gryph-hound pelt >Clearly bigger than a Gryph-Hound>Clearly bearing feathers larger than the Gryph-Hound's That's like saying "oh, that guy's wearing a bear pelt while he walks his dog. The gall of that man."
>>82317589Scales fall off and molt anon it’s literally where dracothian guard get their scalecloaks from
>>82317663bro look at his shoulder, it's so clearly a large gryph-hound
I love them so much bros
>>82317523Both of these are just tournament goers, right? I've always heard that GW just uses those are play testers but yikes. Imagine paying attention only to the worst part of your fanbase. I really wonder why 3e bombed.
>>82317620How many people make jackets, mantles, or even hats out of their old dogs and put them infront of their new dogs?I can only vaguely accept taxidermy out of reverence.>>82317656I can't imagine skinning and wearing my dog in the first place, let alone around other dogs.sorry I'm not a bug man.
>>82317340Can't you smooth greenstuff with alcohol or something?
>>82316581She’s good solo. She has a pretty great shooting attack, is a monster, and can do ok damage in melee too.Her biggest issue is she doesn’t have beer many wounds so you have to be careful with her
>>82317712>How many people make jackets, mantles, or even hats out of their old dogs and put them infront of their new dogs?They used to in the far distant past, AoS is a fantasy world, so it's not unthinkable.>>82317680I fucking love this paintjob. Whoever did it, could just drybrush these scales. But no, instead he highlighter each and every single one separately with a small brush. Mad respect.I'll slap some Contrast Paint over Wraithbone, drybrush the scales and call it a day.
>>82317672>clearly a large gryph-houndIf it's different from every other gryph-hound shown then it's not a gryph-hound. Interspecies aggression is common in species so it's not like the Gryph-Hound would care if you butchered a Gryph-Charger in front of it or something. Humans literally used trained wolves to hunt wolves. There's a difference in attitude through training. Even if it was a larger Gryph-Hound, it's not like it would be unusual for Gryph-Hounds to be used to hunt it and that's not even presuming that it's just an honoured tribute to his dead best friend or something.
>>82317766They've stepped their lance game up recently.
>>82317663>his dogDraconith aren't pets, they're partners.
>>82317712>not wanting your best friend who kept you warm with his life keep you warm in his deathngmi
>>82317787Feels odd that there's no warscroll for a Vampire Lord on Nightmare.
>>82317815Don’t worry they’ll charge you 75 dollars for one in three years
>>82317800Draconith != Gryph-Hounds
MAKE AZYR GREAT AGAINWE NEED TO BUILD A BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL AROUND GHUR
>>82317815It's time you learned that's not how AoS works. Leaders can't just ride the same thing as the plebs.
>>82317893>Overdesigned Garbageking.jpgSo aptThe sheer amount of details on the model is making me have an aneurysm
>>82317887If a Greenskin Orruk stole the Steam Tank from a City of Sigmar and run over some civilians, would it be okay if the Kharadon Newspaper printed his picture in black and white, making him look more like an Ogor?
>>82317887Anyone has the edit with tan face and blond hair?
>>82317940They'd also state that he was chased by a witch hunter and that he merely made a wrong turn.
Been reading up on KO and starting to check price tags.https://youtu.be/N0XzqXVKwLM
>>82317940>Greenskin OrrukAs opposed to?
>>82317952>Anyone has the edit with tan face and blond hair?Gives me same vibes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKTw50Uf8M
Anyone got some Blood Bowl Shambling Undead team Zombies to put next to new Deadwalker Zombies for a scale comparison?
>>82317952It's gone unless someone had saved it when i posted it like when the guy was unveiled, because my PC bricked itself and i lost all my memes (and also all my personal files, but losing the memes hurts more)
>>82317991Where's home, sky-stunty?
>>82317991They need to get literally anyone else to do the voiceover for these
>>82318676Why pay someone when you can just get grandpa to do it for free?
>>82318662Is this that arcane shit I can't stop being bombarded about
Are the 3e Stormcasts Eternals and Orruk Battletomes gonna be added to the Battletome mega folder this year?
>>82318700League fluff was fun 6 or 7 years ago when it was a page for each character and just a loose explanation, once they tried making it an actual world it crumbled
>dragon week is so fucking boring that it actually killed /AoSg/Amazing
>>82319199>Dragon week is four models that were revealed back in June
>>82315690>BSB>AoSPlay WAP and come home white rat
>>82317991>>82318653>>82318662I want more units. Here are some KO bike sketches from these threads forever ago.This one was rejected because it'd look like a cock and balls from above.
>>82319274This one was rejected because it's just a small ship.
>>82315690They seem to be bringing BSBs back.
>>82319199The article about old dragons was pretty interesting.
>>82319288First iteration on the final version.
>>82317600>Hes not blackWTF is this injustice SCE bros?!?! lets complain to GW
>>82319299And the final sketches.I want these, and I want minimum 5 man elite MELEE infantry to go in boats.
>>82317589No? Humans wear pelts of other mammals without any issues. Unless the scales are from literally the same species, why would the dragon care?
>>82317672It's a gryph charger.
>>82317680I like them but I don't wanna play SCE. Those dudes are the lumineth dragon cavalry I've always wanted and now I'll never get.
>>82317893Except they do all the time, even on new models?
>>82319274That's literally just Custodes jetbikes
>>82319376>all the timeName 3
>>82317893>is more kino than you with less detailshit all over the place
>>82319352Hoes mad cuz they technology bad.
>>82319418Sometimes plain and simple is the best
>>82319364Just put lumineth models on the dragons and use stormie rulesWooooow
>>82319422go back to 40k and take KO and Stormcast heavy bolters with youAt least with skaven their shit is still made of wood and has a chance of exploding. Or at least it used to.
>>823191993.0 killed aos long before that.
>>82319457>carpet bombs u>flies awayHow can literal chaos cavemen even function in the same setting?
>>82319486when did you get your last release?NPC faction
>>82319401I'm gonna name all of them just so you know the extent of your stupidity.>Knight-draconis>Lord Arcanum on gryph charger>Lord Arcanum on dracoline>Lord Celestant on dracoth>Lord Aquilor on gryph charger>Chaos lord on daemonic mount>Lord of Khorne on juggernaut>Terradon/Ryperdactyl heroes I can't find the names of>Endrinmaster/Brok (yes I'm counting the baloon as a mount)>Harbinger of Decay>Nurgle hero on pusgoyle>Fluxmaster>Blue scribes>Fatemaster>Wight king on skeleton steed>Liege Kavalos/Zandtos>Belladama Volga>Reikenor>Dreadblade Harrows>Maniak Wierdnob>Loonboss on squig
>>82319457>haha, air ships go BRRRRRRR
>>82319429I would if Lumineth had heavy cavalry models I could snatch the riders from. Dawnriders would need a lot of work.
>>82319512where is this kino art from?
>>82319512>>Loonboss on squigCAVE squig. It's big. And it's got horns.
>>82319279>Gotrek happily sharing a meal with a tranny and an elfIt's shit
>>82319544Just because it's bigger it doesn't min it's not just a squig. All squigs live in caves.
>>82319528No idea, I saved if rom here who knows when. The nightmare steed looks like the new ones, though.
>>82319566Hey, it's the only fault I could find on your list. But it's still wrong.It's still a big special horned squig.
>>82317680Is it possible to save those dragon faces with painting?
>>82316570Spites are worthless now.She doesn't get anything from spites.Just take tree revenants
>>82310958not mine it was posted here by someone last year
>>82317523Full story?Tell me this is those Facehammer shits.God I hate them
>>82319512Almost all of those are from Fantasy or you being disingenuous but there's at least 3 legit ones so good job.
>>82319664That's not bad at all. Looks like he'd fit in with the thunderstrike scale too.
>>82319677Not that guy, but that's just plain wrong anon.
>>82319566It's a giant cave squig, it's like calling the mangler squig a regular squig.
>>82317680Same, ordering six boxes on Saturday. And Krondys. And Karazai. >>82319364Sorry, Order-Bro, only over-designed bullshit for you guys. It's kind of your thing. But hey, at least you've got kangaroos. Anyway, if you need me I'm gonna be flexing on my dragon. Ya know. Chadcast shit. Say, have you ever considered being a water bottle bearer?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIuUIK8rNDQ>>82319457Hate me, cuz you ain't me.>>82317893This shit is legit painful to look at. All the other Vanari models are kino af, why is this thing so over-designed?
>>82319691>but that's just plain wrong anon>Knight-draconisCorrect>Lord Arcanum on gryph chargerCorrect>Lord Arcanum on dracolineCorrect>Lord Celestant on dracothCorrect>Lord Aquilor on gryph chargerCorrect>Chaos lord on daemonic mountFantasy shit>Lord of Khorne on juggernautFantasy shit>Terradon/Ryperdactyl heroes I can't find the names ofFantasy shit>Endrinmaster/Brok (yes I'm counting the baloon as a mount)Clearly much larger and a different design than regular endrinniggers>Harbinger of DecayFantasy shit>Nurgle hero on pusgoyleCorrect>FluxmasterFantasy shit>Blue scribesFantasy shit>FatemasterFantasy shit>Wight king on skeleton steedUpdate of Fantasy shit>Liege Kavalos/ZandtosNot the same mount>Belladama VolgaNot a mount that exists in the rest of the range>ReikenorOnly heroes have these horses>Dreadblade HarrowsOnly heroes have these horses>Maniak WierdnobFantasy shit>Loonboss on squigCompletely different kind of squig
>>82319422Checked and keked
>>82310958>got a tournament next Saturday>got 2k grey FEC ready needs a prime>rain and snow all this week and nextAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>82317815There should be a dual kit where its 1 special character, 1 generic general on a medium sized monster mount. Everyones got it so far ( IDK, OBR, Stormies, Lumineth etc.)Like this old model but not retarded.
>>82319735Since you seem illitarate, I'll repeat what I said. "They do it all the time, even with new models". Which stands true no matter how austistic you are about models released before 2015 or updates to said models. Also>Liege Kavalos/Zandtos>Not the same mount>Loonboss on squig>Completely different kind of squigThis is just plain wrong. A relatively bigger something is still the same thing.
>>82319746Technically the vengorian lord covers that.
>>82319775The whole point of the discussion was "AoS armies", smartass. So no, fantasy doesn't factor into it.Also you don't quite seem to grasp just how big of a difference there is between a regular squig and the giant one. Also go back and look at Kavalos and compare it to the deathriders. It's much larger and has 3 tails. It's different.
>>82317815Still waiting for my boss on gore grunta in IJ, do it already GW. Cunts.
>>82319775>Liege Kavalos/Zandtos>Not the same mountThe stats from the deathrider mounts compared to the lieges are different but I think it's literally the same mount.>Loonboss on squig>Completely different kind of squigThis is correct. Cave squigs =! normal squigs.
>>82318111>As opposed to
>>82319199Burger hours being dead is normal. 3/4of the thread is made when Europeans are awake
>>82319845>inb4 some retard either thinks this is racist, or hates them because they're """black"""These are fucking awesome.
>>82319806Anon you said>This is how AoS armies workAll of those are models from AoS armies used in AoS, saying they don't count because they come from WHFB is just retarded. You might want to try and establish your actual point so everyone can know it since we can't read your mind.>Also go back and look at Kavalos and compare it to the deathriders. It's much larger and has 3 tails. It's different.I know it's bigger, it's still a Kavalos. It's the same thing. An old anaconda is still an anaconda even if it's bigger than a younger one.>>82319832>Also you don't quite seem to grasp just how big of a difference there is between a regular squig and the giant one>This is correct. Cave squigs =! normal squigs.I need you both to understand that squigs are squigs and they all live in caves. Even mangler squigs are still squigs, just bigger. I didn't count those because it's specifically 2 giant squigs chained together.
>>82319861Not the same breed of squig anon.
>>82319860It's racist because it's brownwashing greenskin culture.
>>82319861>All of those are models from AoS armies used in AoS, saying they don't count because they come from WHFB is just retarded.The whole point was that AoS leader models get unique mounts instead of just riding what everyone else does. Of course WFB models don't count for that, it's literally about AoS designs. Not even reading the rest of your post since it's probably equally retarded.
>>82319279>that huge boob platedangerously based
>>82319870No, that would be things like squiggoths, hogsquigs, squiggasaurs, squig snufflers and so on. But regular squigs from the hoppers/bounders, herd, both loonbosses, mangler squigs and colossal squigs are just regular squigs of different sizes.>>82319900Well that point was already proven wrong, as SCE alone have like 6 hero mounts that aren't exclusive to heroes. Not my fault you can neither write nor read.
>>82319911>ah yes this ONE faction doesn't follow those guidelines that disproves the trend! Besides I already gave you credit for those, it's like you're literally illiterate.
>>82319288>>82319299>>82319312just use gyrocopters. they're cool as fuck.
>>82319199nah. the games dead in general. we prob won't get a new armybook til february.
>>82319939Okay, give them the right keywords and put them in the army.
>>82319939of course i forgot the pic.
>>82318649I hope this was your first data loss and it taught you to maintain multiple backups
>>82319669alright ill do an effortpost about thisfacehammer (Byron & Russ) did an incredibly vapid and superficial review of the stormcast battletome when it first came outmonths go by and they dont talk about stormcast at all since the first video. thats fine, they dont need to be passionate about every army right?but now that drakes are coming out, they set up a stream to talk about a "oops all dragons" list where they try to cram as many dragons in as possible and also have a link to their store elementgames where you can preorder those dragons teehee :^)at the start of the stream he claims to be a playtester and part of the reason why stormdrake guard went up in points because theyre too overpoweredit becomes obvious that they have no fucking idea what theyre talking about, they just fuck everything up throughout the stream>dont know what changed with the menagerie command trait>didnt know that cycle of the storm was erratad>didnt know that lord-imperatant can only do his >7" scions on units with 3 or less wounds, thought he could do it with dragons>his own stream chat is calling him out constantly>it has become obvious that he hasnt even looked at the stormcast book after reading it live months ago>he read through the allegiance abilities one at a time like he did zero prep for his own stream>you can see the gears turning in his head as he argues with the chat>his "oops all dragons" 10 dragon list eventually becomes 8 dragons>his awesome dragon spam list is actually just Draconis and 4/2/2 drakes>then he adds a relictor and cuts it down to 6>then he adds gardus and cuts it down further>then he was saying there's better units to use in a stormcast>he admits he has not played one game with stormcast with their new book>not a single onebut he is giving feedback to GW about how to balance the game
>>82320069heres some great quotes from the stream>knight draconis... i think having two of him is really good>final thunderstrike gives the entire army a consistent source of high quality mortal wounds>i dont see a reason why you would take karazai over the other onewhen asked how he would fight gargants>the 2 big dragons charging a gargant should delete it>youve got 10 attacks with 3 damage, thats like 30 damage right there>he had to look up if a single stormdrake counts as battleline if youve got a draconis>You could run 6 of these dragons, and still make a billion different lists>thunderous presence is good because hunters of the heartland doesnt stop it, and roar doesnt stop it... your opponent cant play around it>final thunderstrike is quite nice because if you know you have a lot of damage coming in you can do damage back>hammers of sigmar 6+ ward is pretty good yeah... hallowed knights dont do anything for you>we dont want to use gardus because that would be a "mixed list">we should use tempest lords because the odds of one of your dice being a 5 or 6 is really really high>I have not played much with the new stormcast book>i think cycle of the storm has been nerfed, but i dont know what it is>ive not had the opportunity to play them since the books come out>if they didnt nerf the drakes they would have dominated the game>ive seen the drakes used pre-nerf, and it made me worried about the future of warhammer>the good thing about their points going up is that dropping a unit gives you a lot of points to play with>bastian is great. even if youre not playing hammers>The Celestant Prime is OBSCENELY good>im not worried about giving up victory points because its only 1 per round>its very unlikely>if it was an issue gargants wouldnt be doing as well as they are>gargants is a crapshoot anywaycont.
>>82320081>the counter to this list? armies with a shitton of wounds. screens>not worried about morathi bow snakes because i just dont play that one>any list can be 5-0 if you get good matchups>the best way to play lumineth is to lean in to their spearmen>nagash isnt that tough to kill, only 16 wounds>yeah he can be a 2+ reroll>Lumineth would shit bricks against a dragon army>There's no dancing around them with Foxes>seraphon -1 damage? the mortals dont get effected>yeah your mount attacks are reduced but who cares? you dont need them>bastiladons and salamanders dont really do anythingthe comments on their stream are calling them out toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxwbcfT1fF8
>>82320069What a shitshow
>>82320081>youve got 10 attacks with 3 damage, thats like 30 damage right thereYou can't make this shit up.
>>82320144>IJ top tierI guess they finally overdid it with the "I am shoving all my shit into your deployment zone on turn 1, kill whatever I charge and there is nothing you can do about it, teehee~"?
do you guys recommend army painter wargamer brushes? i've been looking at them online and like the triangular grip, but was curious if they're any good for the price.
>>82320189No better or worse than GW brushes really
>>82320149Some prime GW balancing logic. Just like the whole 52 Damage Stonehorn thing where the chances of actually getting 52 damage are quite literally 1 in (Insert the amount of seconds elapsed since the beginning of the universe).
>>82320144I hope GW doesn't nerf IJ, they are a fun straight-forward army with very few gimmicks.
>>82320149GW rules department has never realized that a d6 roll isn't always 6. They price everything as if you're always rolling your best.40k got it bad where all the blast weapons became d6 shots and needed to be updated to actually do 6 shots to hordes.
>build an entire unit with chainswords because that was good at the time>they're now skywardens with half the attacksAny way to salvage this travesty?
>units with wound-brackets are unable to heal any longerI have fixed 3rd.
>>82320069I knew these guys were full of shit, actual parasites
>>82320283Last time I looked they preform better than skywardens in melee AND at ranged as long as they're fighting stuff with a 5+ save or better.And in 3rd ed save stacking is a thing, so they're just plain better.
>>82320311Just remove heroic recoveryOR"Units can only be healed once per battle round"
How does the logistics of deploying the sancrosant chambers work out? Aren’t the longer they’re dicking around the more stormcasts are fucked? It seems like whatever benefit they provide is outweighed by making sure your immortal soldiers don’t turn into extreme psychopaths by accident
>>82320311>>82320365the problem isnt healing, the problem is save stacking on 3+ HERO MONSTERS with amulet of destinythe solution is to change amulet of destiny to a 6+ Ward and their finest hour to a 6+ Ward
What are we mad about now?
>>82320365Healing on daemon heroes is ridiculousWith 10Ld, if you dont oneshot them they can basically heal 2d3 in one round.
>>82320396Save stacking should just be removed imoJust make it so you can get one source of +1 save, that's it. No more +1 mystic shield, +1 finest hour, +1 AoD then final total +/-1 from your base save tee hee
>>82320540Fucked up the last sentence, just +1 from your base save
>>82320540nah most sources of save stacking are fine. mystic shield and all out defense and fun and have costs & counterplayfinest hour puts it all over the top
Is the OP megas gonna get updated for 3rd edition?
>>82319860you are constantly being haunted by imaginary tumblr users and it isn't healthy for you
>>82320411Blackened Earth and Champions of Destruction were delayed until next year.
>>82319512Technically speaking, the Harbinger of Decay rides a horse, which nothing else in the Nurgle range rides. IIRC the blue scribes have a unique mount too
>>82310958>TQNot really a conversion, but I just slapped these ghosts on my blood knights
>>82320454>Laughs in 3+d3 on FEC
>>82320004Yeah, it was. I have backups now for my memes.
>>82320069>>82320091>>82320081Reinforcing the disgust I feel for the little cabal of shitbags who serve as the AoS playtesters. What a fucking joke. God I hate facehammer
>>82320267Tabletop tactics mentioned this.Apparently they tried explaining why d6 weapons are shit for anti tank but they said "well that's what CP are for."Because you should be required to use your CP to get decent anti tank with lascannons of course!!!
>>82320945>>82320069>these are the people in charge of your game>GWIDF on here keep defending AoS rules that are complete shitFurther proof that this board is 80% shillsWhen i say something is shit its because i want them to fix it and make it good.Endlessly praising GW for their SHIT rules will never fix anything
>>82320904> plus chaliceTeehee full health!
>>82321003This isn't the place defending AoS rules, TGA is that way>>>/lgbt/> Mod Hat onFuck Gaz, fuck Runebrush and fuck those other fags there.
>find an actually good AOS youtuber??>wow what are the odds>join their discord>everyone has pronouns in their usernamewhy is it to hard to find an apolitical space to talk about this game
>>82320144>>82320091>>82320081>>82320069How much does GW listen to literally whos like this? I would assume GW has actual mathematicians on board who do their probabilities, and not just...random people like this.
>>82320684It's the people on this board, in these threads. Though I'm suspecting the >"tHaT's RaCiSt!!"-people are baiters LARPing as twitter users.
>>82321063> GW has actual mathematiciansHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAOh sweet summer child
>jetpack is a fucking bugbased
>>82319735Raikanor is also the only one with a winged horse, unless you want to count Pelighast from Storm Ground
>>82321047> joins a youtuber discordFucking queer
>>82321080I wish they had more bug stuff. Alarielle's ride is fucking sweet.
>>82321047>an actually good AOS youtuberHIGHLY doubt
>>82321063>I would assume GW has actual mathematicians on board
>>82321047>discordKill yourself regardless of political affiliation
>>82321047>find good total war youtuber>doesn't mention politics in his videos>their discord requires a phone number to join and has communist images
>>82321087I made that mistake once with The Outer Circle's discordNever again, just use it to talk to friends who refuse to use other means of communication now.
>>82321109> likes Outer CircleGod I hate faggots.Seriously, even Christ turns his face from you.
>>82321063>I would assume GW has actual mathematiciansFuck, I wish.
>>82321106> TW SecondaryIsn't there two boards you would fit in better, the gay one and /v/?
>>82321165I'm in the gay one right now
>>82321148It's a love hate, mostly hate relationship these days
>>82321148I just learned about them last week. What's the problem with them?
>>82321063>I would assume GW has actual mathematicians on board who do their probabilities, and not just...random people like this.Even 11 years ago when I was took Statistics in highschool I knew that GW had never even heard of Standard Distribution, Combinatorics, or basic probabilities
Any new Nurgle leaks today, or will we just have to wait for next week for GW to start hyping them? Are plague drones any good, or should one just get pusgoyles for more mobile Nurgle units?
>>82321154His spear hits harder on Crits and has longer rangeBut don't forget: you can fly! :^)GW has no idea how to price Nighthaunt. They have the "ignore terrain and rend" that 40k Harlequins have but the exact opposite costing problem.
>>82321080It's got deep lore as well.>In order to speed these new creations on their way to the far-flung glades, Alarielle made a pact with the Spitemonarch to secure zephyrspites – winged creatures that would grant the Arch-Revenants the power of flight through symbiosis.The Spitemonarch has his own court somewhere in Ghyran but is presumably also a seated member of Alarielle's Royal Moot, alongside other so-called "spitelords."
>>82321203What did the actually impact, though? Everyone here was saying dragons were whack
>>82321063Anon, GW pays their game designers poverty wages. They don't know shit about shit, hence why they need to keep FAQing the game constantly.
>>82321292I think the consensus is that the nerf was necessary, but there's a bunch of sce players that wanted really strong dragons.Though the actual logic behind the nerf on display here is hilarious.
>>82321398NTA, but again, I'll bring up the fact that Dragons were going to launch in the powerful state and the only reason they got "pre-emptively" nerfed is because their launch is almost FOUR MONTHS late. But you have retards still praising GW for being "so proactive".
>>82321390>GalhallaIs it like Valhalla except populated exclusively by high school girls with brightly dyed hair and spray tans?
>>82321430I want to go there immediately
Have we got prices for the Dragons yet?
>>82311187Finally got all the sneks done. They're a bitch to make with how close you need to cut and file them to fit properly, but once they do it's really hard to notice the problems, especially since you can cover them up with the quivers and extra bits. Got a shardspeaker on the way home too and used a staff ornament from the empire wizard kit i had in my bits box. She'll be a Hag Queen in the list. I really hope the male blissbarbs will be easier to attach when i decide to expand the unit.
>>82321601It is surprising that Slaanesh is not more generous with his mutations/blessings. Unless they all get massive cocks with tentacles at the tip.
>>82321640Slaanesh always grants his followers penis mutations. My headcanon is that Sigvald has a retractable tentacle cock
>>82321203> made the screencapNice.Fuck Facehammer
>>82321587Yeah bunny gave them a few threads back. Can't recall though. 72 for the smaller ones and 90 for the big I think. Only dungeon bowl stood out to me.
>>82321292if dragon spam is op just make them uniqueliterally the easiest problem in the world to solve
>>82321204Summary:> I hate GW!!! Grrrr> but I still advertise for their systems and simp for 'I hate GW' clicks on YouTubeYou want to whine about GW? Fine. Go fucking nuts.But if all you do is whine yet still simp their shit, you are just a faggot. Plenty of other NON GW systems out there. But this faggot is so much of a cuck all he can do it keep coming back like a beaten spouse. Same with his simp fans.
>>82321430found the pedophile
>>82321729It's a Japanese fashion style but you're right.
>>82321726Imagine being poor. I buy my models with Crypto gains for 3 years now.
>>82321722Not going to happen because GW wants to make money off the kits.They might make some faggy 35 buck hero unique- they make their money back on that mold the first 6 hours it's released.Big mold like the dragons must be milked.
>>82321729Fuck off, faggot.
>>82321203I remember incelhammer being on warhammer weekly once, they were annoying
>>82321203How does GW actually play test its games and models? Wouldn't it be simple to just run a bunch of simulations on a computer to at the very least see how models stack up against each other in combat? Even if you don't account for movement like in a real game, that's still a shit load of good stats that tell you whether a Chaos Warrior is strong enough for its cost or if a horde of zombies is underpowered as a tarpit.
>>82321737yeah they really dont give a fuck about making a good game at all, why is anyone still surprised at their incompetence in the market they created
>>82321766>How does GW actually play test
>>82321766New product is overpowered on purpose to create the peer pressure into buying it. Then they neft if a few months later, just in time for another release of Space Marines/Sigmarines.
Is there any reason to take Stonehorn beastriders over the Huskard unless you're desperate to get battleline? an extra 20 points for more health, more damage, and access to command abilities seems a no brainer.
>>82321812WAACfags are the worst for encouraging this.
>>82317271>unfortunate that the both the best looking models and the strongest are typically named heroesin what edition this wasnt true?
>>82315797I really want to know exactly what the fuck happened with that, not just why it was squatted, but the way they went full Ba Sing Se on that shit.
>>82321759They were defending the badly written and boring sons of behemat tome when it came out
>>82316922I blame that one channel that claims to be focused on "narrative games" when really they have fuck all narrative shit and 'narrative' is just code for 'we have no idea what the fucking rules are'.
>>82321937Ah yes, that is what it was
>>82321973No one has been as bad on warhammer weekly as that mephisto guy. One time in particular I could feel Tom’s desire just to tell the guy to shut up, and Vince just started cutting him off when he’d start his next rant
>>82321736Lucky you. You're poor until you own land and the skills to use it, though
>>82322049Links don't work, sends me to Mega's Home website.
>>82322097Don't click on it, it's horse dick porn again
>>82321726,>>82321706Neat, the big dragons costed less than I thought they would. Shame the tiny ones are that expensive though.
>>82321759>incelhammerdo i even want to know
>>82321992Don't know who that is
>>82319512There is one herald of khorne that also rides a jugger
What's her endgame?
>>82321812This might be true of Space Marines but there have not been enough Stormcast releases to make this a thing.
>>82321937> everything bad isn't our fault> defends 2d clubs on the basis of math> 10 attacks at 3 damage? That's 30 damage right there!!!Fuck. Facehammer.
>>82321992Mephisto is the single worse one.
>>82321992Kek which ep? I've dropped Warhammer Weekly after Tom left. It's just waac shit with no actual enjoyment in the game conveyed.
>>82322446Shit Tom was WAACfag as fuck. But Tom back every other week.Agree that Tyler is shit though.If you dont paint get the fuck out
>>82321766>How does GW actually play test its games and modelsThat's the fun part, they don't.
>>82319845They look great with 'uruk-hai' colours. What did you use for the skin?
>>82321725Outer Circle likes the setting and wants the company to improve, which is a big difference from most of other anti-GW channels that just drum up videos for clicks.
>>82322705>>82321766There was an official statement on this from GW before, it's around 11 games a month if I recall. Something along those lines.They did not specify which games.
>>82322919It was from the podcast and that's very fucking little so it amounts to nothing.
>>82322955They have actual dedicated play-testers now, and hiring more, since start of 9e 40k and end of 2e AoS. Before it was just guys at the studio.
>>82322967Well it doesn't seem to be working.
>>82322987If you look at list of job requirements and expected pay rate; it does not help the situation.
>>82322987How are they going to push out rule changes quickly when they cant even get their books printed/shipped?
>>82323027Who said anything about changes? If, supposedly, they've got all those playtersters for over a year now, there's been several books released since and let me tell you, balance has gone down the drain in that time. For most of 2ed, the game was pretty well balanced and the few outliers were corrected quickly.
>>82321047>pronouns are political
>>82322588Tom is waac, but he’s way more interesting than Tyler. Tyler is just boring, and hearing someone only talk about his ironjawz games are the most boring things ever>>82322446I can’t remember which one it was, but it was a longer episode and mephisto just kept ranting, and at one point Tom just stopped talking and Vince cut off mephisto every time he’d start another 15 minute tangent
>>82321736Imagine wasting crypto gains or trivial shit like hobby stuff instead of reinvesting everythingNGMI
I got my first win in AoS today after my 7th game. I played Clan Moulder Skaven with 2 units of 4 Rat Ogors, 3 Master Moulders, a Hell-Pit, Thanquol, 1 unit of Stormfiends, the Warp-Lightning Vortex, and 7 units of Giant Rats. Played against Stormcast. In short: >his shooting really punished the poor positioning of my Master Moulders, he took 2 out in turn 2>The Warp-Lightning Vortex absolutely decimated his backline shooting>I took full-shooty Thanquol, who in 2 rounds of shooting against his Dracolines did 3/12 on 4+ for mortal wounds, then an impressive 1/8, then got charged by them, I failed I think 7/9 4+ saves, then didn't roll a single 5+ ward save, taking exactly 14 wounds, so he got one-shotted by 2 cats. The only good thing he did was set up the WLV>the Hell-Pit also got obliterated in one combat activation with some bad rolling>his Celestant-Prime absolutely whiffed against my Stormfiends, so they were locked together for half of the battle>he failed almost every spell he attempted. I think 1 got through.The game really came down to the bottom of turn 3 where he had his general on Dracoline, his 2 Dracolines which had just wiped out Thanquol, and 1 of his battleline guys trying to charge in to a unit of 3 Giant Rats sat on the objective. I redeployed to force a 9" charge, and he failed with all three. I then brought two more units of Giant Rats to sit on the point and screen him out and that was able to get me the win. He did manage to charge the rats but didn't manage to kill enough of them (bravery 3, 1 wound, no save) to outnumber me on the objective.Conclusions: >Stormfiends do not do enough damage to justify their points without Skryre buffs>Bring more Rat Ogors instead and at least another Master Moulder>Giant Rats at 40 points per are really good>the Warp-Lightning Vortex is bustedI forgot to take pics, but I do have an action shot of the Rogres heading towards some fat guys.
>>82323185I like your bases anon, they look disgusting.
>>82323104Yeah Mephisto really likes to hear himself talk. I don't think he's a very good guest.
>>82323104>>82323201Someone find this episode for me, this sounds too funny to miss.
>>82323197Thanks. They kind of smell like a dentist's office too.
>>82323185Thanquols tricky to use, as are warpfire throwers in general, because they are less effective the more wounds the target has. If it's 1 or 2 wound infantry 8n squads of 10+ they are devastating, but against elite 5 or 3 man units or cavalry they are much worse and against single man units like heroes and monsters they are basically useless. Usually a good idea go 50/50 with thanquols weapons unless you are also sending a dedicated melee unit next to him like rat ogres or using him as 2nd rank support over lines of clanrats. Sneaking a rating gun or two into your list can be a good way to provide some clutch firepower. They are great against single target and horde, and can do some wild spike damage. Also if you're worried about getting shot, throwing a cheeky warpgrinder into your lists gives you the option to keep something off the table to save it from a turn 1 alpha
>>82323104>Tyler is just boringAgreed, it feels like Tyler is afraid to disagree with Vince (or just has no opinion) so it just becomes a 'Vince monologues for 2 hours' show
>>82323309Trouble is, it's pure Moulder, so I can't take the Ratling gun. If I want shooting, I'm limited to taking Stormfiends, which I think next time I won't take because they are so expensive. I think this army's strength is in the Giant Rats; having so many tiny cheap throwaway units that can screen out an alpha strike and potentially score lots of points. That happened during the match; he dropped his big unit of dracoline down my flank but he was screened out totally. He could only drop in and kill some rats. The Rogres came in next turn and demolished them. If I wanted all of the options for Skaven, I'd have to take Clanrats, which do a similar job to Giant Rats, not quite the same, but it would be redundant to take two forms of chaff. Saying that, I will go for more Giant Rats next time. 10 units only cost 400 points. I can think of worse options for 400 points. Fun fact: they are the cheapest unit in AoS.Taking full-guns Thanquol was a pre-match decision I just wanted to try out. 50/50 melee and shooty is definitely the best option. He did actually manage to incinerate an entire squad of his 5-man battleline unit so he wasn't entirely useless (actually he left one guy on one wound because Thanquol wasn't rolling well today, so I had to arcane bolt him next turn).