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Which jedi do you think got the most dick/puss? Who was on first name basis with the Coruscanti brothels?
Does your game have a female antagonist? What is she like?
>>82291635Ki-Adi Mundi. It's not even a contest, considering that he had multiple wives.
>>82291635From a Certain Point of View - Kenobi diaries:>Luke, did I ever tell you about Ahsoka Tano? She was your father’s exotic teenage alien apprentice, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems. Anakin and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful campaign during the Clone Wars, and once in a while we’d even have the entire 501st run a train over her, part of official Jedi “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a meatsaber better than anyone in the Jedi Temple. She wore a miniskirt every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her orange pussy mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a B2 Super Battledroid in half. It was surreal. We taught her to grip her weapon backwards like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Luke, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
Thread off to a good start.
>>82291596Someone got the image of a stormtrooper pulling this move?
What job would you want in the Imperial Navy? For me, it'd have to be a gunner on the concussion missiles on a VSD-I, fighting pirates in the Outer Rim
>>82292107Me? I want to be a janitor.
Seems like last thread had forgotten that without a bunch of ‘cosmetic’ dentistry Twi’lek teeth are one of the biggest ‘accidental’ mutilation risks in the galaxy
>>82292140I maintain to this day that the Big Damn Kiss from Rise of Skywalker shouldn't have been Rey and Ben because...fucking why?...but instead Poe and Finn. The two who actually had on-screen chemistry and an actual bromance that I genuinely believed far more than I believed anything between Rey and Ben.Just a big gay kiss right at the end. Maybe with one of them flipping off the camera and saying "free Tibet" if it pisses off the Chinese that much.
>>82292140CLEAN IT UP JANNY
>>82292472Yes, sir! Right away!
>>82292372I personally didn't see gay chemistry between poe and finn. I did see it between Hux and Kylo Ren though. But I agree, the kiss between Rey and Kylo Ren was completely unearned- it felt very much like a committee decision.
>>82291785Kenobi gives off virgin vibes.
>>82292863I got the opposite. He's just an enlightened Chad who feels the need to cite his conquests in front of everyone he meets. He let's his raw sexual aura speak for itself.
>>82292863Pretty sure he has a kid with that mandalorian prime minister chick
>>82292863>>82292917>>82292926He always struck me as one of those "chaste" (as in, PG rated sexual romance) moralfag characters, sort of like the stereotypical chivalrous knight he made the Jedi Order out to be. His situation in A New Hope suggested the situation of Lancelot in the years he spent as an ascetic monk following the troubles wrought by his love for Gwenevere
>>82292990>A New Hope suggested the situation of Lancelot in the years he spent as an ascetic monk following the troubles wrought by his love for GwenevereWell, the Duchess is fucking dead, i'd call that "trouble"
>>82292990I get the feeling that Obi-Wan is both flexible, and a stick in the mud- he'll defend the rules of the Jedi while also flaunting them- he understands the Order is flawed but also completely believes in them. Hence no compulsion against fucking. Contrast with Mace Windu, who is a staunch traditionalist- sex with him would be passionless and emotionless, while Obi-Wan would be willing to cuddle.
>>82293116>Mace Windu, who is a staunch traditionalist- sex with him would be passionless and emotionlessWindu is a master of Vaapad sex style. Dangerously close to the dark side with its aggression
>>82292372faggot shit does not belong in Star Wars
>>82291635Luke. Just ask Mara what happens when he activates Son of Skywalker.
>>82293251And what about a pair of hot girls passionately kissing each other?
>>82290448Wasn't just you storytime anon. Kinda choppy until they got to the fight.
>>82293368I wonder of we'll see what happened to Barriss Offee in Bad Batch.
>>82292107I wanna command a ship. Shit seems cash money.Alternatively, ace pilot.
>>82293460>implying anything happened to her besides a blaster bolt to the back of the head the moment Sheev kicked off Order 66
>>82293460Shabby Blue already explained it. Commander Fox was rather brutal.
>>82293499Ape-faced gangbangs, the Shabbyblue promise.
>>82293499Even without pornographic evidence, Fox executed Fives with very little hesitation.
>>82293679>Ape-faced gangbangsFunny, that's what I call my Legion Rebel list.
>>82292372If they wanted to appease the Chinese they wouldnt have cast Finn in the first place. Such half-assed pandering
>>82293368Lesbianism is not as bad as homosexuality, in practical terms.
>>82292990Now that you mention it, I wonder if it was originally planned for there to be a Anikan-Obi-Padme love triangle like Arthur-Gwnevere-Lancelot so that random line Anakin throws out accusing Padme of cucking him with Obi Wan didnt seem completely ridiculous
>>82294137Because you find it hot?
I intend on hosting a star wars ffg campaign in 10bby on a mining guild debtors colony which doubles as a penal colony for the empire. The mining guild found some old records from a long since gone missing exploration and survey team mentioning some possible veins of rock ivory (an essential component in repulsorlifts). The planet's mountainous regions are rumored to hold the ivory. But my biggest concern is the structure of the colony itself should I make sure to keep the crimimals seperate from the debtors? Or have them stuck together to hammer in how little both the impromtu planetary governor cares and the mining guild advisor really give a shit? Are there any books you guys would reccomend to help me draw inspiration towards the subject? Because right now I'm just looking towards shittier coal mining towns and sharecropping ventures for inspiration.
What was the point of this character?
>>82295852Chewbacca call back and protector of Mission Vao the jailbait
>>82293460I think Tarkin might have shot her assuming a swift military tribunal.
>>82295852Discount Chewbacca.Mission is a discount Han Solo, but jailbait twilek.T3 is a discount R2.HK-47 is 3PO but evil.Jolee is Yoda but black man.Bastila is Ep. I / Ep. II Obi-Wan.Ebon Hawk is a discount Millennium Falcon.Darth Malak is OT Vader but has no jaw.Darth Revan is a self-insert power fantasy Mary Sue.
>>82295852being a kawaii team mascot just like chewbaccaeverybody loves the big cute dog
>>82293490Thinking he wouldn’t take time to corrupt her and savor the irony of turning her into a tool for the exact thing she was radicalized against the Jedi by, then let Sly keep her around to degrade>(em)Barriss Offee>it even fits perfectly with Lucas’ idiot savant naming methods
>>82296059I have a soft spot for Jolee Bindo, but you hit the nail on the head.
>>82296116>(em)Barriss Offee>it even fits perfectly with Lucas’ idiot savant naming methodsHe can't keep getting away with this!
What age is Space-Legal
>>82296725Whatever your local Moff sets it as.
From past threadLuv' me battle droidsLuv' the outer rim n wild spaceHow does battle droids equipped with janky slugthrowers and criminally under serviced blasters, led by an equally janky tactical droid under the commands of some outer rim wannabe warlord autist during the middle/near the end of the New Republic era sound for an intro to a campaign?t.has zero experience in this sort of thing and likes robits
>>82292023The old around the back and pop one off blasteroo, they'll never suspect it>>82292371You have a pair of pliers?
>>82297289you could look up german resistance in east Africa during WW1 >german colonies outnumbered 10:1>no supply routes, forced to tap trees for wild rubber and recruited 90% of their men from the natives >set up a ghetto factory to make homemade bullets >pinned down thousands of british troops who would otherwise spend their time in the western front >managed to resist up until the end of the war and only laid down arms due to general collapse of central powersBXs and an especially smart tac droid using guerilla tactics and improvised weapons would be like umbara pt2prolonged time away from droid control ships might also cause idiosyncrasies in their personality subroutines, so you even have a reason for them to act more human-like and eccentric
>>82297590>you could look up german resistance in east Africa during WW1Mandatory Link: https://militaryhistorynow.com/2017/04/12/operation-china-show-the-top-secret-marathon-flight-of-zeppelin-l-59/
>>82297590I always forget about German colonial holdings
>>82295451For maximum misery I would mix the criminals and the indebted populations. The administrators and guards should care about order (no shouting, no fighting where they can see you, no dangerous objects) and the production quota (no excessive violence, no damaging the equipment) but otherwise give zero fucks about what goes on among the prisoners. Inmates keep dying from accidents, violence and general neglect, but that is not a problem as there is always more people to take their place. The camp administrators receive impossibly ambitious production quotas and inadequate resources from above, which does nothing to improve the situation.In theory you are supposed to receive a food ration and reduce your sentence (and receive small luxuries) based on your work performance. In practice the administrators don't track who really does what, so your work can easily go towards filling someone else's quota. The gangs who run the place make sure their bosses are fantastically productive by intimidating other prisoners into giving them credit. The bosses live in relative luxury (still very rough by any reasonable standard) and maintain their position by distributing the food and luxuries they receive from the administration among their underlings and other prisoners. In theory you could receive more for your work, but claiming it for yourself is considered stealing from the boss by the gangs.For an inmate the biggest danger are work place accidents caused by inadequately maintained equipment and overworked, half-starved workers. Another danger is a downwards spiral to starvation due to missing your quota, leading to reduced work output, leading to failure to meet your quota and so on. The powerlessness of the inmates and the negligence of the administrators can also lead to many other useless deaths, such as death from preventable disease (just a short period of missed work can push you over the edge into the starvation spiral), or simply heat or cold.
>>82297704As anon demonstrated, they were less irrelevant than the Italian ones.Personally, I always forget the Spanish hung on to stuff until after WWII.
>>82295451>>82297751If you want to reduce the misery from this extreme level you can do so easily by having the administration keep a closer eye on things, feed people properly and not demand the impossible from them. If the indebted and the criminals are separated I would expect them to perform different duties in the prison colony. The worst and hardest work (breaking rocks, cleaning the septic tanks) would be done by the criminals, with the indebted mostly receiving the lighter work (cooking, laundry). This would make the criminals resent the indebted, who in turn would fear the violence of the criminals. This might suit the administrators just fine, since it makes it less likely the prisoners collude together to make trouble.
>>82295451With things like a Gulag structure, the most often tended to throw in the hardcore criminals with the common plebs that where there for angering the state and just managed to get 10 years hard labour for saying the wrong thing or they made enemies of the wrong people. There's an interesting dynamic between the Thief and the other prison inhabitants that became quite distinct and to some extent they don't mingle very willingly- mostly because the Thieves tend to regard the ordinary people as liable to rat them out to guards, have no structured sense of code in regards to association and cannot be trusted.So you get the Vory V Zakone (roughly- thief who is the law) and the Suki (bitches) who are outside the 'thieves law'Most of all the Empire and Mining Guild wouldn't really differentiate between who gets sent to them, a set of hands is just that and sent to be worked to death for the most part and a greatly feared 'punishment' because of both the horrible conditions and the fact their lives are pretty much forfeit on the whims of the guards, other prisoners and the administrators.>Gulag Archipelago- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
>>82297590I don't think droids could keep up something like that. People always gloss over the fact that guerilla tactics usually lead to many casualties for the guerillas. The movement can sustain itself if there is a population from which it can recruit replacements from. Droid replacements on the other hand are made in a factory, which is both hard to move and keep hidden from a determined enemy. Once you lose your droid factories you are on an unstoppable downward trend. Probably a rapid one, since cheaply mass produced droids subjected to the extra wear and tear of constantly operating in difficult terrain don't last long without lots of maintenance.
>>82297982>Droid replacements on the other hand are made in a factory, which is both hard to move and keep hidden from a determined enemy.east african german holdings had a bush factory capable of making ammoand BXs are definitely smart enough to cut and run while also having been built to last, no expense spared
>>82297590will definitely look into it
>>82297809Most of it had evaporated by the mid 1800's, I think the only parts left of their colonies was Equatorial Guinea and Spanish Morocco by the 20th century- not including the Canary Islands which are really just Spain with lots of ocean
>>82298071Yeah, between the Age of Revolution and the Spanish-American War, Spain just crumpled.
>>82298023Making ammunition is easy. Producing whole droids is either very slow artisanal work or requires lots of heavy machinery. I just don't see how you could hide enough infrastructure to keep replacing your losses.The losses do not just come from the enemy, although obviously fighting against a well equipped enemy is very dangerous. Your safety as a guerilla comes from tolerating extreme conditions your enemy has difficulty operating in. Those conditions take a toll on you as well. Even if your enemy never scores a single kill your BXes will eventually all fall over from drained power cells, a lack of lubricants and rust if you keep them operating in a jungle where they can not be taken care of properly. The same is true of organic forces, but they can make do with just a bare minimum of food, water and shelter. High technology and the complex logistical chains it requires are not your friend under conditions like this.
>>82298088Yeah, they're not so much a net-benefit by the time some unscrupulous bastards offload a heap of milsurp for the locals to use and instead end up a cost-sink as you're constantly putting out one rebellion after another, there's a lot of down tools and things like expecting human rights or autonomy. The Spanish were not exactly renowned for their egalitarian and gentle administration, so even if the yanks didn't smash them up its unlikely most of those places would have willingly put up with them for much longer anyway.Also by the 20th century opening up new colonies was mostly just seen as some kind of tragic military adventurism and ill advised tyranny- no longer amazing the spear chucking savages with your boom stick and crates of opium, they're wise to that and instead the old fall back to "Well 400 years ago our ancestors took a shit here, so Sudetenland and Poland is our place" and just called it what it was- an invasion!Not to be outdone- 'lol Ethiopia' by Italy
>>82297980 There is an Andromeda ep where the captain and the robit are thrown into a prison. Also there is this (available other places) for ideas. https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/61379/Adventure-2-Prison-Planet?info_message=Please+choose+which+option+you+would+like+to+add+to+your+cart.&filters=0_0_0_0_40020
>>82298139 Of course this gives good opportunities to ambush convoys and supply dumps for replacements. Maybe something involving a raid on a mostly dismantled/ destroyed droid factory. - or a crashed troop carrier. You can possibly loot new parts and weapons (possibly from other droid models) and maybe re-activate droids "in storage" for troop replacements.
>>82292107Tie pilot or gunner. Nothing like shooting down rebel scum.
>>82297494Actually I think smuggler dude must have spent the money himself, since when you see the green one without a muzzle he doesn’t have sharp teeth. The artist probably just meant the piercings, but thats what I’ve got in my head now
>>82296059What about Canderous, Juhani, and Carth
>>82298530>CanderousKorgan but tall?
>>82298139>Those conditions take a toll on you as well. Even if your enemy never scores a single kill your BXes will eventually all fall over from drained power cells, a lack of lubricants and rust if you keep them operating in a jungle where they can not be taken care of properly.Not speaking for the rest of the issue, but you can get astromechs and other models fully capable of maintaining other droids off the civilian market without being conspicuous. Sending those along with a covert squad of BX and/or IG droids would do a lot to sustain them in the course of something like a guerrilla campaign. Another option would providing a relatively small supply of B1s and B2s or some other fodder droids to activate and deploy when casualties are expected and need to be absorbed without losing more valuable assets. You could also likely cannibalize damaged droids to keep less damaged ones going, or scrounge components from CIS wartime production to keep a fighting force of BXs active.
>>82293461>I wanna command a ship.>wanting to answer the contrary at your perilThe only problem is that you're ultimately at fault if anything, absolutely anything, goes wrong. Sure, you can blow some rebs out of the sky, but you're waaaaay more likely to get canned because the retarded officer of the deck did something stupid while you were asleep. I agree, though.
>>82298530>CanderousHan Solo but evil warrior.>CarthHan Solo but whiny sack of shit soldier.>JuhaniUgh... There was no lesbian cat lady Jedi in Star Wars before. She's a boring bitch with no personality and I can't really pinpoint her character in any memey way. If you didn't kill her immediately you played Kotor wrong.
>>82298402>ear cones>straight teeth>'he'Yeah, no. She's just really flat.
>>82296059>>82296155Black Yoda?!I thought the dude was a Gray Jedi (his philosopher wise). Beside that, this brother got cuckold by Exar Kun so badly that he lost his faith in Jedi.
>>82298816and wearing headpanties
>>82298909>a Gray Jedi
>>82298909He really doesn't act that different from ot Yoda, except being a quirky black dude instead of a quirky green frog. Also lives on a forest planet in a hut somewhere that resembles a swamp.
>>82298402Its still the equivalent of buying your twilek off a 'puppy farmer'They're poorly raised and socialised, the parents might have aggression issues or other genetic weirdness happening and now you've just got a biter that you can't take anywhere that will probably require constant trips to the vet and the equivalent of declawing.I mean shit, at this point you're better off just getting a Rancor. At least it'll bite who you send it after
I'm more worried about weird mixes.
>>82299009>>82299115Whoops meant to link
>tfw I'm enjoying Bad Bitches
>>82299115Great, all the untrainable aspects of one mixed with the aggression and predilection to murder in the otherPerfect for the guy who just wanders in for a family pet and says, my life is apparently way too good at the moment so just fuck my shit up bro. I also may need all the small animals in the hood pursued, destroyed and made extinct.Its not popular to say, but sometimes when mistakes happen if you're too soft to deal with it yourself, the vet can put them to sleep
>>82299417Or if you're redneck enough, you can always take your .44 and head down to the railroad tracks.
>>82299417Increase the scale and we found an alternative to the Rancor for Hutt pets.
Anyone have the pdf that had a big compilation of advantage/threat/despair examples? I'm retarded and can't find it again.
>>82299947I got you one better
>>82299681The outer-rim here, its expensive to call out the vet so most people take ol'yella out behind the shed and put a lead pill in his ear.My relationship with the vet is also probably best described as 'complicated' as he does the saving animals and I do the vertebrate pest murder control on the side, we've met eye to eye on some of my native animal protection crusades but mostly he's not a fan of shooting critters>>82299820The Massiff has a lot of potential for pet-sales, get a freighter full of puppers and set up a sale to the core-world plebs that want a genuine good boy to take home and show mum.
>>82300028Thanks, boo, didn't realize this had the tables in it.
>>82291596>look at AoR weapons list >missile launcher is shoulder fired guided missileseems a bit like the M47 dragon and quite a bit too advanced for star warswould a space-LAW or space carl gustav make more sense?
>>82300272Guided ordnance fits the setting perfectly fine. Star Wars isn't strictly Space WW2. It's also got a lot of Space Cold War. In the case of ATGMs, the French had the guided Nord SS.10 in the 1950s. In the case of MANPADS, the Redeye and Strela-2 were both in use by the 1960s. Perfectly fine for the Space 1970s/80s.
>>82300314a 1st gen MACLOS missile thats fired from a tripod or vehicle is more fitting, like what the AT-ST has in video games like a space sagger missile
You know I've always disliked the stagnate galaxy narrative some people like to use. It also doesn't help that we do see advancements like the Tir fighter's Ion thrusters being able to out pace most ships until newer ships such as the A and X wings were made or how much more tanker AT-ATs are compared to AT-STs or even A6s.
>>82300352blame kotor for depicting technology as exactly the same 1000 years ago at least in the movies, the only line to suggest eternal technological stagnation is 1000 year old lightsabersother than that, the death star is explicitly unprecedented technology and the PT vehicles were designed to look like ancestors of the OT, so that they would believably look like technology improved between the eras
>>82300340Maybe for the KOTOR or PT time periods. By the time of the GCW, galactic military tech has taken some pretty big strides towards the Missile Age. Also, clunky tripod launchers are a pain in the ass for footslogging PCs. Man-portable launchers make for faster, smoother action on the tabletop.
>>82300378Yeah, even the clone wars had some strides in ion weapons with the Malevolence's ion emitters
>>82300352>>82300378There is substantially more visual and technological distinction between the prequels and the OT than there is between KOTOR and the PT/OTI mean just take one example: StarfightersIn the Phantom Menace, only large ships have hyperdrives; the Jedi consular ship, the Trade Fed battleships, the Queen's yacht. The Naboo fighters and droid fighters can't go anywhere without a carrier.In AOTC it's the same thing, but they add the hyperdrive rings. The smallest ship with a hyperdrive is Jango's Slave 1, which is fairly sluggish and more akin to the Millennium Falcon than it is to an X-wing.In ROTS it's the same thing BUT TCW explains that the heavier fighters like Y-wings and ARC-170s have hyperdrives. The first starfighter with an internal hyperdrive we see chronologically in the franchise is Grievous' ship that Obi-wan steals to meet up with Bail organa.By the OT, hyperdrive equipped fighters are the default, to the point where it's openly mocked that TIE fighters don't have them. Technology has advanced so far in that regard in just 2 decades in-universe that the idea of snubfighters travelling anywhere in the galaxy is pase. The sequels hardly even bother with this minor detail, they don't bother giving TIEs hyperdrive collars til Ep 9, and the EU never cared about doing so. Indeed, the sequels parallel KOTOR where everything is basically just the OT but shaped a little differently.
>>82300447>the EU never cared about doing soWorkhorse TIEs could be equipped with aftermarket hyperdrives. IIRC, Trigit in Wraith Squadron had a hyperdrive Interceptor that he kept as an escape craft. There were also plenty of TIE models that had hyperdrives as standard, like the Advanced, Hunter, and Defender. Also note that the Naboo N-1 was hyperdrive-equipped, but it was also very expensive and rare.
wtf was up with the E-5 and should I treat it as a full autot.d6fag and Genndydfag
>>82300378Yeah, if there something I can say about the High republic it's that it at least tries to have it's own look compared to Kotor and especially TOR is either stealing from the prequals and just adding taticool gear on it. That's not to say they don't have decent shit but a lot of it isn't.
>>82300384You could always take the Wargame approach and just ignore that and find a different way to balance them.Perhaps they're more powerful, or precise, or both, but at the cost of being really hard to feed.
>>82300484Those are basically just one-off experimentals, like Vader's TIE advanced. The EU never bothered giving the Imperial Remnant or the gay ass new sith empire from legacy legions of Defenders or Avengers or basic bitch TIEs with hyperdrive collars like the whisper of the ST. All they had was those horrible horrible flappy TIEs fighting against those atrocious cross-thing GFFA fighters.
>>82300700TIE Defenders remained in use long after Endor and the derptastic TIE Predator from Legacy officially has a hyperdrive.
>>82300713>TIE Defenders remained in use long after Endorall five of them?>and the derptastic TIE Predator from Legacy officially has a hyperdrive.I never knew that, where the hell did they fit it?
>>82300724https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/TIE/D_Defender#Yuuzhan_Vong_War_and_later_useTIE Defenders are like Order 66 survivors. The number in existence is always small, but vague enough to provide as much as the plot demands.
>>82300738I always figured the tech became cheaper over time.
>>82300752It's less a matter of expense and more a matter of no factories. IIRC, TIE Defenders were supposed to be out of production after the events of TIE Fighter. The factories got blown up and the stigma of being associated with Zaarin made it politically haram in the Empire.
>>82300738to be fair, I like the TIE defender a lot, one of the best EU TIE designs, I wish there was an excuse to shove more of them into the canon
>>82300378KOTOR is a pretty narrow point of blame and vid games are a whack area to begin with as they revolve mostly around foils and counters to other aspects for 'muh balance', which means including shit that probably shouldn't be or just getting intellectual bereft and throwing some old shit back in for the fuck of it. Especially when they've been moving into new areas which aren't necessarily well laid out or have nil-info on them- you could ask George Lucas, but at some point he'd be going 'what the fuck am I paying you daft cunts for?' when it comes to making new things for new time periods.The other problem is they're not completely willing to risk a big break and strike out for something new, otherwise they run afoul of all the grognards and fans who're going 'dats not star wars' and the fucking normies going 'is this the new Halo?' So there's a fine line between divorcing yourself from current material and making not star wars or borrowing heavily and hoping its enough star wars in their diet to capture some of that audience or purchasers. To some extent some of the old cartoons did it better than the computer games ever did by going full send on the weird shit or formulating some convoluted reasons to include old stuff which is still valid in the current or perhaps some evolutionary development when presenting itCourse, sometimes there's some surprises in there too, once in a while you get spess-magic like Umbarrans and some of the Chiss stuff as well
>>82293499There's a name I've not heard in a long time.A long time.
>>82300485I treat all standard issue military blaster rifles as select fire
It literally took people thousands of years from fire to learning how to write. Why is it so unbelievable that tech can remain stagnant?
>>82302281we went from >8 seconds of flight mostly downhill via gravity fed fuel system powering a biplane made out of paper and woodto>fucking spacein 54 years. we went from the telegraph to the telephone in 39 years. sure, technology can stagnate, but pretty much as soon as a single technological advancement is made, shit explodes almost exponentially
>>82302323Why is 50 years of human existence taken as the norm over the other 20,000 years?
>>82302281>Why is it so unbelievable that tech can remain stagnant?we had to divide the stone age between the paleolithic , mesolithic, and neolithic because even literal cavemen did not remain stagnate in their technology culminating in the early copper age
>>82302339Either it is a universe where there are no universities and research teams, or those institutions never achieve anything.
>>82302344Semantics. I'm right and you are wrong
>>82302389>those institutions never achieve anything.Pretty realistic in my experience
Invention and knowledge come in a series of bumps. Each innovation is the jumping off for the next. Some advancements are just improvements. some are "Ah Ha!" leaps. There are a lot of failures and dead ends of both types. Usually there are periods of stability as well... the "next big thing" doesn't happen for a while. but some other things increase by increments small er and more unnoticed. Distance also both limits the movement of ideas and also creates a challenge to be dealt with..
>>82302544but 1000 years in the past where everyone uses the exact same technology with no apparent changes?thats kinda dumbespecially when technology noticeably moves along in the PT and OT
>>82302554Okay.. The only think I can think of are falls of Galactic civilizations - or large enough portions of them that were somehow knocked back. A lot of them.
>>82303019The knowledge of how to make things isn't as big of an issue in a literate society as you think. It's more often the lack of access to the resources neccessary to maintain or manufacture.
>>82299315Looks worse, anon. Seems like you like TTS redditry.
>early season ahsoka has only one lightsaber and is generally good at saber combat and nothing else>late season ahsoka dual wields and has more leadership and force masteryhow would you represent the difference?alternate stat profiles?slowly gaining keywords for every command card?
>>82304071Make multiple minis. Give each one a card that is okay with that mini, but usable and overpowered with the other minis. Rake in the cash. Crash the game balance with no survivors.
>>82300352Disagree on the A6 being weaker than a At-At walker but also I enjoy the Sanae bullying so I’ll agree anyways.
>>82302554Given how old spacefaring civilization is in Star Wars the best explanation for the stagnation is that they've just reached the limits of what is physically possible with a lot of technologies.
>>82304567I figured there were a few dark ages here and there that reset the clock in some fields. I felt the galaxy took a nose dive during the New Sith Wars.
>>82304567>is that they've just reached the limits of what is physically possible with a lot of technologies.except for the fact that new technologies are being created in the span of peoples life times in the OTthe death star itself is something that has never existed prior to the moviesluke even complains that his landspeeder is outdated
>>82301266We had the aesthetic for the time period, it was Tales of the Jedi.
>>82304071The issue with the permanent keywords is that it's already Anakin's gimmick to show his growth in power over the Clone Wars.You have a point though it's pretty hard to stat Ahsoka in Legion. You can't really have her be more expensive than her master but you can't make a Force user too cheap either and she needs the basic Jedi stuff shown on-screen like Deflect, Jump 1 and Immune Pierce. Maybe give her just that and either 1 Force slot and 2 Training slots or 2 Force slots and 1 Training slot without Charge.If it was up to me though I'd make her an Operative but with 2-pip and 3-pip supporting her allies and herself both to illustrate that her leadership skills were mostly based on improvisation and teamwork. And her 1-pip would give her a free recover to act as a one turn only Master of the Force as well as the usual OP bonuses Force-users get on their 1-pip. Maybe give her Ataru Mastery for a turn with her 1-pip, though that could be too similar to Luke's Son of Skywalker.Can't wait for them to release a Jedi Operative to use with the Clone Commander in Skirmish
>>82302554>1000 years in the past where everyone uses the exact same technology with no apparent changesTech from the New Sith Wars period definitely looks more archaic than OT-era hardware.
>>82305032she could come in at 140-ish points with only a single force slot and no surgesmaking her a cheap dive character like Sabine but with the ability to buy a second lightsaber for something like 40 points that gives her unit buff abilities and teamwork:rex to make her an all around commander
>>82304071I hate this character so goddam much.
>>82301266That era already had a strong John Carter of Mars aesthetic in Tales of the Jedi, KOTOR threw it out the window to make it more familiar to people who only watched the movies.
>>82306185>John Carter of Mars aestheticKOTOR's look is stupid, but thank god it axed that style.
>>82300528that ship make me pp into big pp
>>82306349they really should've made her fucking head tails bigger in this, the tiny ones make her look like a kid
>>82306822Maybe she got lekku reduction surgery so she could fight without them flopping in the way.
>>82302544My personal interpretation is that the tech is advancing but their appearances remain stagnant. Like a speeder still has to look like a speeder but the internals or firmware have been vastly improved. Makes sense since the galaxy is so vast and theres so many languages that you need a universal look for things to communicate their purpose.It's like seeing an ipad tablet and thinking it's the same as a stone tablet, or seeing a motorcycle and treating it the same as a horse
>>82291635By vocation the Jedi sentinels
Anyone know of a Telegram/Discord group where I can get STL for Legion?
>>82307188This is why I could never get into the EU, it was full of half-baked justifications for other people’s shoddy writing.
>>82311100I think it's kinda comfy, especially when they try to justify the more ridiculous shit like the Holiday Special or Droids
>>82307188This makes a lot of sense. Add a few cataclysm-level events and wars and it also keeps overall development pruned.
>>82311100That's an anon's headcanon, not an actual EU justification. Tech from the EU's New Republic era looks nothing like TOTJ or PT hardware.
>>82305032>but you can't make a Force user too cheap either and she needs the basic Jedi stuff shown on-screen like Deflect, Jump 1 and Immune Pierceyou could make her the cheapest force user in the gameeven weaker than Cluke, 1 force slot, no MoF, only 3 red instead of 6 black + surge crit (more reliable due to jedi training, lower ceiling from youth and slim physique), no gun, and has spur instead of charge (worse action economy but better at positioning)a 1-pip granting her ataru mastery for one turn would be a more situational SoS, so it could grant her dodges to compensate
>>82305383>>82311757I would definitely say the way to make her scale is give her a Sidearm slot for her shoto, which should come with the Arsenal 2 she needs to use both and probably some more keywords (could even go Field Commander). She doesn't adopt the second saber until the later seasons, so that could be an easy key to show like, her progression, and it's not like we don't have some parallels with the Darksaber.
>>82304907>>82306185>Tales of the JediWell that's sort of what I figured with the comics doing a better representation of the old, weird shit that was running around back in the old days. Its all sails, tubes and crystal magic thats held together with rigging and cable tensioners. Then the inhabitants have some ancient plate armour, you'll get a motherfucker turn up with a spear to a beam-tube battleOld prototype stuff from the early days of star wars being planned out would also work fine
>>82312469Lower and lower left would fit right into any SW space or spaceport scene. Top right is totally a fast gas tanker and would also fit.Lower right looks good, but feels more like something from Homeworld.Top left ended up in various games and comcis-The very top though. . .yeah, I get teh 80s retro-future vibe, but it looks more like something von Braun made the Disney crew draw for his Mars movie.
>>82312469So early concept of Millennium Falcon is basically rocket sled?
>>82312937I'm pretty sure that is supposed to be a closed cabin up front.
>>82292990morals are good, anon
>>82312469The lower left one is now Rylothian Fast Trader.
>>82313068Redeeming Ventress with his morally good Obi-Wang is also good.
>>82313149>Fast Trader.now i want to give my party a go-fast boat >miniscule cargo capacity>Spartan accommodations >no/few weapons >needs half a light second to turn 180>literally able to outrun A-wings or interceptors in a straight line>designed not to sneak past customs but to book it out of orbit once someone looks at you funny >deals in high value, small space cargo like drugs or for extracting VIPs
>>82291596Can droids be force sensitive?
>>82313411>RPGsstrict nojedi droid are disbarred in most of them >moviesnever explicitly said to be impossible but across several movies and shows not a single one appearsobi-wan does mention the force is created by living things but yoda expands this to say it exists between even rocks and space ships it would be unprecedented, but yoda doesnt say "bitch ass R2D2 thinks himself a jedi, but he aint got shit cause he is a droid"
>>82313266>for extracting VIPsYour mission, should you choose to accept it, is to extract the Moff's daughter and her closest friend and confidante, her handmaiden.Though I guess most players would be just as happy to trade, I mean transport Twi'lek 'indentured entertainers'
>>82302544There is no explaining a galaxy wide stagnancy at that level of technology. But there is no point in trying either, it's fictional setting for space magic. who fooking cares
>>82313583If you absolutely want to, you can go into theories about how a near-completel lack of pressure for space, food, ressources etc. can cause stagnation, especially if you have a galaxy full of FTl capable small spaceships that can go everywhere at a whim.But yeah, why bother. Let's have fun with space wizards, laser swords and starfighters.Also, green, blue and red chicks in metal bikinis.
>>82300028>>82299947There's a more complete version around now that I put together. It has updated dice symbols to make them look cleaner, a few small additions, and various fixes. (Note that this is separate from the attempt to add fancy font, after someone said it wasn't searchable, I reverted it to a more basic version).I don't actually play the system anymore (my game moved over to a Dark Heresy conversion for Genesys), but I search the threads for keywords every few weeks or so.
>>82313625Stupid yet awesome lightsaber variants?
>>82312934>>82312937>>82313149I think if I was running games back then I'd have the players rolling around in sort of that 1960-70's peak NASA inspired shit with big phat rockets out the back, some manoeuvring nacelles that shoot fire whenever you turn hard.>Think- Space 1999 and ThunderbirdsThen we're gunna stick a great big fucking solar sail hanging off it because space magic in ye olden times space faring
>>82313901Well yeah, but on the other hand you have those . . well, I don't even knwo what the style is called.It's essentially the kind of drawings that inspired Homeworld.Hugeass spaceships and stations, starkly lit by alien suns, hanging in the void like flying, colored mountains of titanium and steel.The ISD is one of the versions of this trope, for lakc of a better word, that made it onto the big screen.
>>82313901Star Wars was inspired a bit from the space tech of time.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPM-Bqc8fQ
>>82314054He does have a point, and I guess that is where the feeling that SW was more 'gritty' comes from.I just want more starfighters ans space aces and fewer space wizards. Lucasfilm plspls
>>82313974I guess 'monolithic' might be a description for a lot of the 'its hueg!' spaceships of sci-fi fantasy settings. Do actually have a book somewhere in my library of bits full of this sort of stuff and if the kids stop annoying me for a half hour I'll get it out for a look and see if there was a name for that kind of era.John Berkey as an artist (deceased) is sort of what comes to mind though>>82314054Will give it a look in a secWe have a lack of cheese apparently and this is my fault somehow
>>82312469 Space 1999
>>82314171There were a bunch of artists, and even a few comic books taht used this stryle.There was an artbook full of concept drawing called 'The Art of homeworld' a while ago, too.Link related:https://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/02/the-art-of-homeworld-enjoy/
>>82314989Yeah sory about that, but they do have some of that cool Homeworld concept art.And I fucking love that austhetic, and the Homeworld universe too.I can still see Kharak burning.
>>82314642After navigating the morass of art genres with all the grace that a violent engineer canIt basically falls under the category of 'Fantastic Art' with most of the 20th-21st century stuff being given a broad brush of 'Fantasy Art'- which in itself has about 4-5 dozen sub genres of other shit underneath it. Also my books where somewhat less than useful in the sense that they get a lot of Fantasy Art thrown in with the film genre and that seems to have confused the heck out of the writers of trying to associate traditional illustration and painting with film media... to the point they just ignore it and throw the whole question in the too hard and no one gives a fuck basket.The one person I knew who'd be qualified to answer such questions has been dead for longer than most of you have been alive, tu es venu tu as vu et puis tu es parti>>82314054Its a decent point, I've always been a bit indifferent about science and its relation to science fiction machines, physics and all the other stuff that goes on. Mostly because its something that derails rpg sessions for hours on end as grognards will argue about ion engines and blaster tech until the heat death of the universe- and still be unhappy with an answer!I guess it does make me appreciate the first 3 movies in so much that if something had a relatively important facet to its place in the plot that they tried to give it some 'organic' sounding reasons why it needs a missile in the tube. "Its important because" does add a whole level of gravitas to situations which lets you buy into it at least on the surface levelWhat I do wholeheartedly agree with is the Jedi have approached some significantly 'super hero' levels of ability in subsequent media to the point they lost a lot of that subtlety and mystery to them. It just seems to have become way too generic in sense of the more power, the more obvious it is and its sort of lost that sense of wonder
>>82315821I guess there is just no specific genre for drawings of fantasy space structures.I have a bunch of early 80s comic books that were clearly influenced by the style, there is teh aforementioned Homeworld artbook butthat'S about it.A bunch of McQuarrie concept art shows some relation to this style, too. I suggest we apply the retronym 'Homeworld-esque' and go back to posting spaceships and/or Twi'leks.
>>82315926Art genres for 'High Art' usually fall along the lines of using specific techniques and styles, paint types, sometimes they'll also dovetail into cultural or historic moments in time as well. However, where this gets fucky is that subject matter isn't necessarily the genre guiding, easy to differentiate 1-size fits all for a genre. Especially when it comes to stuff like painting.Now- Illustration and Subject specific 'Art' tends to fall into the secondary category all of its own of being branded Fantasy, Realism, Commercial, Comic, Pop, Street Art or any number of other sub-genres thereof which are not quite considered 'High Art' done for the sake of the art, they're done for other reasons like painting birds and bugs realistically for journals, childrens books, novels, advertising, comic books and our good old fashioned sci-fi movie posters.So that's probably why a lot of the sci-fi art doesn't necessarily have its very own art genre like say, Modernism, Art Deco, Impressionism or SurrealismThey may very well incorporate some aspects of other genres in terms of their technique, the media and style- but it doesn't necessarily put them into that high art category where they get their own genre!>because art fags gunna fag!Anyway, that's about as much as I'm worth on the subject of art. Sort of a guild by association by knowing the odd art fag over the years and not really qualified at all! Now for some star wars arts from an art person I liked and found a couple of days ago
>>82316090>guilt by associationfugg
>>82315021The subject did not survive the interrogation.
This is your sector's new Moff.
>>82317378>ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS!! I had sex with Hera Syndulla and Sabine Wren. That is all.
Why didn't they wear camouflage?
>>82318744Their main opponents were droids, who use thermal or other types of vision that eliminate the benefit of camouflage. Source: my ass, I just made this up on the spot.
>>82318870>"Commander, a lot of our brother clones have been choosing names to identify themselves, have you thought of anything that identifies you, as a name sir?">looks at his armor>"Call me Green... No! Gree."
>>82318909This dude had a sense of style. Shame he lost his head.
>>82318951>had a sense of styleHe must have left it on Kamino because good lord, that haircut looks goofy.
>>82319872Could be worse.
>>82321972>tfw growing tank leak gave you a receding hairline
Rangers of the New Republic is cancelled.Another one bites the dust.
>>82321988He had a really cushy job, just take the clone cadets around and show them the ropes of their future.
>>82322295Way to be a year late Doomcock.
>>82322295>have fan favorite character>played by fan favorite actress>cancel her and her show just to spite the fans and appeal to people who would never watch the show or anything with said actress anywayAre they playing some kind of 5D chess here that I am simply too stupid to understand?
>>82323248>Cara Dune>fan favorite>Gina Carano>actresslol wat
>>82323537Conservakids have deluded themselves into thinking she's a good actress because they think they earned based boy points and can cash them in for chicken tendies.
>>82323378He's got a bit more here-https://friendlyrobot.artstation.com/
With the genesys rules conversion for vehicle combat, with the dangerous driving action, the genesys rulebook mentions that it's something the gm can have the players make. Would that take up their action on their turn or is it just a check the gm can declare?
>>82323571Nobody ever claimed she was a good actress, but it looked like lots of people liked her as Cara Dume.And quite frankyl, more Mando-like series seems something Diewny at least can pull off without fucking up their own franchise.And to be honest, I forgot what she even did to get fired by Disney. Was it somethhing 'transphobic'?
>>82323942She wasn't even fired, her contract ended and wasn't renewed. She made a few dumb posts on social media, Disney told her to knock that off, she made another post saying conservatives are treated worse than Jews in Nazi Germany and it was after that that Disney opted not to renew their contract with her.
>>82323980Oh and afterwards she went on a pity tour with right wing faggots to whine about what a victim she is with stull like interviews with that shrill-voiced faggot.. um... Fuck, forgot his name. But is a really cocky shitfuck with a really whiny nasally voice.Either way, she didn't apologize or try to endear herself to anyone but the far right afterwards, so no one but the rightoids give a fuck about her now.
>>82323980Don't be hyperbolic, she said that hate and otbering of conservatives was dangerous, and likened it to pre-nazi Germany.
So what happens when you die in star wars?Is it total obliteration, complete loss of identity and unification with the Force into one big super consciousness, or can you feel your friends in the netherworld of the force and identify yourself and them? Kinda like Rust described feeling his daughter and parents in True Detective.
>>82324302From what I recall it’s a infinite pool of minds flowing in spirals of warm bliss. This part which I’m pretty sure is NU canon is the way force ghosts work is that they don’t really keep their individuality but when the pools hear the cries of certain names a part of it splits off and slowly peels itself until the person the name specified is left. Apparently it’s a VERY unpleasant process.
>>82324302They get sent to a cosmic waiting room until a lazy writer decides to do some gravedigging for a cheap pop. Just ask Darth Maul.
>>82324529>bring back maul for a cheap enemy>ends up being the definitive version of his character >in a very popular arc thats still talked about today>popularity is why he got into legion despite never being part of CIS>ends up being a well designed unit that is liked for both crunch and fluffthe ends justify the means
>>82324471>From what I recall it’s a infinite pool of minds flowing in spirals of warm bliss.Source? I mean it kinda sucks if, for example, when all those jedi died during the purge, they couldn't feel their masters or padawans and know it, kinda like acknowledge each other, even if for a moment. Like I said, kind of like Rust described it in True Detective. Like revel in the purest love and warmth for a few moments, and then dissolve into nothingness, or super consciousness, netherworld of the Force, cosmic force, whatever. If you just die and get thrown into the pool of souls without having the slightest awareness it's the same as obliteration, I feel like. And it's especially sad if some faggots actually get to retain their souls after death.
>>82324529Meanwhile, somewhere in the forcehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjcwY_CraA>What do you mean, come back?>No absolutely not, we gave it the good old darkside try and you know>...some stuff happened>Look, you were not there, I wrote a will and got the droids to burn all the stuff down, honestly I did as much as a sith boy can do>Well its nice that people want to see me again, but that's not the point>I'm quite happy here>Oh how much?>With a big robot arm?>And I don't need a reason right, I just turn up and zap some shit?>We can do that I guess... just for a little while, I don't need to stick around because pooping when you're my age. >Boy...>Sure don't miss that, its like a fiesta every time you have to do it unaided
>>82324601Maul was getting into Legion regardless of the cartoon. He was already well-known for being TPM's boss fight guy. >definitiveFuck no. Even the Legion guys don't give a shit about cartoon Maul. The Legion mini and card art focus more heavily on the TPM version, the one that everyone recognizes.
>>82323980>>82324002>leftist psy op?
>>82323537>>fan favoriteShe is some people's favorite. Don't pretend like twitter liberals weren't sucking her dick for being a strong female lead right up until she expressed unapproved political opinions.>actressBy definition, yes.
>>82324726Don't think they're even that clever. More a case of pissing off the big-boss Karen and getting the boot because they don't like you, which is grounds for some kind of unfair dismissal case in most countries for full time employees but contracted hire is a somewhat more fuzzy area of employment essentially not designed to be in the employees favour, but you get more cash for just the work you do instead.The rest is just random screaming, chimp noises and fabricated outrage of the internet, I say this as someone who thought she did a great job in the Mandalorian tv series, but once you filter our the background static its just the same old Hollywood shit mixed in with 3rd world Disney employment contracts.
>>82324302According to an unpublished short story that the author has turned into a full-fledged novel, it's just a big party where everyone but the worst of the worst Dark Siders get to chill forever. Even droids go there.
>>82324800I never saw anyone praising that fat bitch except on 4chan when she was revealed to be a retarded conservative.>actressShe had been hit in the head for a living, she's not a very good actress, and calling her such is a stretch.
>>82324829>Even droids go there.So its hell?
>>82324829What novel? How do they chill? Do they recognize one another in there, do they have at least some awareness? What is the point in chilling if you are not you and you don't get to feel your loved ones? Might as well face total obliteration.
>>82324801I'm getting really tired of the outrage cottage industry. It's so obnoxious to see all the dumb click bait that pops up after I watch one SW video unrelated to anything in production.
>>82324801It wasn't even a firing, nor a termination of contract. Her contract was up, she said stupid stuff and pissed off the hand that fed her and that hand told her they won't sign her for a new contact for the upcoming show they had wanted to give her. She had several chances to back down and apologize. She dug her heels in and played the victim and Disney told her they didn't want her back.
>>82324855>What novel?Supernatural Encounters: The Trial and Transformation of Arhul Hextrophon by Joe Bongiorno. It's getting should be getting a physical release soon, but until then you can read a section on his website. The whole thing used to be there, but he removed it when he raised enough money to publish. Ends with Arhul entering the afterlife.http://www.starwarstimeline.net/Supernatural_Encounters.htm>How do they chill?General frolicking iirc. I remember dancing being mentioned.>Do they recognize one another in there, do they have at least some awareness?Yes and yes. It's not really death, just life on another plane. Everyone seems as lucid as they were in life>What is the point in chilling if you are not you and you don't get to feel your loved ones?Presumably they're there with you too. Unless you're Ysanne Isard and your loved one is Palpatine.
>>82324850I'm sure everyone stays away from the area where the billions of B1s who died in the war are corralled.
>>82324839>I never saw anyone praising that fat bitch except on 4chan when she was revealed to be a retarded conservative.>using 4chan as a measure of anything other than free time and bitterness
>>82324912It was newsIs it news we have to feel personally invested in and throwing a shit fit on the internet over? Not really, but that's sort of the way of the worlds social media algorithms in the sense that no one's reporting on the stuff that makes people happy or even mildly bipartisan about- because its just not at the extremes of attention grabbing. Then just add in the repeated beating on it for a month or so, just to milk the very last dribble of attention.>>82324938To some extent, the people who work in that industry know 'the scene' in so much that their employers a liable to be such-and-such a way, will come from various stereotypical backgrounds and are a bunch of petty, measly cunts that get their nuts clipped on all manner of retarded reasons. That's the same in any industry, you rock up to work at the oilfields and paint the town rainbow with open gay rights speeches and wearing a dress, you're gunna get a fucking beating behind the pub one night.Is that fair?No, but its just part of how the world is in some places. You can't waltz into Jewville CA and start making Nazi statements and protesting conservative rights because that's basically going to twist someone's dick out of joint.Plus you're a contractor, no one gives a fuck about contractors!
>>82324969Droid and Clone Valhalla with endless punching sounds kind of fun.But if we're sharing the afterlife with busted machines, I'd really not spend eternity with some fucking 2stroke chainsaws that refuse to start, a crashed 2nd hand car which hit a pine tree and the sandwich toaster my wife managed to somehow destroy.
>>82324957That's ok, I guess.You think Ani danced with those younglings?
>>82325129>But if we're sharing the afterlife with busted machines, I'd really not spend eternity with some fucking 2stroke chainsaws that refuse to start, a crashed 2nd hand car which hit a pine tree and the sandwich toaster my wife managed to somehow destroy.Don't think that'll be an issue, I think the bouncer only lets you in if you have at least basic sentience. So maybe the B1s are in hell...>>82325228>You think Ani danced with those younglings?I think that's a given.
>>82325401>I think that's a given.Do they have enough awareness in the afterlife to ask: "Why did you kill us, mastah skywolkah?"Or do they not care anymore in the eternal bliss? Does Anakin feel awkwardness of the situation?
>>82325427>Do they have enough awareness in the afterlife to ask: "Why did you kill us, mastah skywolkah?"I think that while they most likely do, they're also children. Anakin probably plowed through them as quick as he could to get it over with, they probably didn't realize what was happening. Less "Why did you kill us" and more "What happened? Is the other Jedi and temple alright?">Or do they not care anymore in the eternal bliss?Forgiveness is the Jedi way.>Does Anakin feel awkwardness of the situation?Probably regret more than awkwardness. Repentance for his sins plays into the Biblical parallels George loves.
>>82324020>hate and othering of conservativesYeah if you’re a delusional retard, meanwhile the terrorists who attacked our country on 1/6 are getting kiddy gloves instead of being put against a wall like the faggots they are. Whitney, snowflakes who are addicted to “persecution” despite being the ones actually fucking over people, fucking pathetic
>>82325491>I think that while they most likely do, they're also children. Anakin probably plowed through them as quick as he could to get it over with, they probably didn't realize what was happening. Less "Why did you kill us" and more "What happened? Is the other Jedi and temple alright?"I think they had enough time to recognize what was happening. The guy literally asked:>MASTAH SKYWOLKAH, THERE'S TOO MANY OF 'EM, WUT AH WE GOOIN' TO DO?And Mastah Skywolkah looked at him with anger and ignited his lightsaber. Then he moved towards them and started cutting them down. Surely they realized what the fuck was happening. It's not like he did sheev spin with no questions asked and cut them down with lightning speed. No, it was quite deliberate and devilish.>Probably regret more than awkwardness.But he can't feel regret, cuz in order to become a Force Ghost you have to know your true self and let it go. You literally have to let go of everything. He is zen, he is enlightened.>Repentance for his sins plays into the Biblical parallels George loves.Did he though? He never said he was sorry. He said that Luke was right, he was ACKCHYUALLY good all along, and then he died and fucked off into the ghost world.
>>82325560>I think they had enough time to recognize what was happening.They had enough time to realize the temple was under attack, but not that Anakin was leading the clones. If the did, they wouldn't ask him anything, they'd hide behind the chairs and cry. I think you're overestimating the ability of a 4-year-old to read social cues.>Then he moved towards them and started cutting them down. Surely they realized what the fuck was happening. It's not like he did sheev spin with no questions asked and cut them down with lightning speed. No, it was quite deliberate and devilish.I'd love to see the cut of ROTS you have where they didn't cut away after he activated his lightsaber.>But he can't feel regret, cuz in order to become a Force Ghost you have to know your true self and let it go. You literally have to let go of everything. He is zen, he is enlightened.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nO0uJenOgwIf Obi-Wan had let go and was "zen" as you put it, he wouldn't care about what happens in the material realm. But here he is, telling Luke that he has to face Vader and his destiny instead of just leaving things to the will of the Force. Same goes for any force ghost. They're almost always guiding figures, which is indicative of a desire to teach and attachment to those they're teaching. >he was ACKCHYUALLY good all alongLuke said Vader had good within him, not that he was always good. The good wasn't behind the wheel, it was tied up in the back seat and only broke free to overpower the evil and take control at the end.
>>82325697They had enough time to realize Anakin is here to kill them after he ignited his lightsaber.>I'd love to see the cut of ROTS you have where they didn't cut away after he activated his lightsaber.Saw it at the private screening at Skywalker Ranch.>The good wasn't behind the wheel, it was tied up in the back seat and only broke free to overpower the evil and take control at the end.Still sucks and I don't buy it, desu.
>>82325493>all this bait
>>82324002are you equally annoyed by leftwingers?
>>82324601imagine if they spent all that effort fleshing out someone who was actually part of the cis grievous or dooku
>>82327293Those two were fundamentally shit characters with nothing interesting going on as a fucking concept. Especially Grievous - the most worthless DeviantArt OC coldsteel in history.Maul should have been the villain of the trilogy. Too little too late Lucas realized it.
>>82292371I thought the teeth were naturally flat and thug'leks sharpened theirs to try and look tough.
>>82292372>guys can't be friends anymore without people wanting them to kissGod I hate this single mother culture we're stuck in.
wookiee wrestler who enforces keyfabe in the middle of battle, yes or no?
>>82324985Shes a shit actor and a bad character. Elite soldiers are not tubby female cunts
>>82328755elite soldiers aren't women fullstop
>>82313843A small request, could you put a version number or 'last edited date' somewhere in the beginning for future releases?
>>82327869This.Grievous and Dooku turned up and nobody even knew jack shit about them. It took them five to ten years of books, comics and TV series to flesh them out.Dooku had potential, and they realized that becasue they fleshed him out a lot more. But Grievous was one of these things that sound cool in theory but end up rather lame on screen.Maul had a better screen presence even though he got cut in half in the first movie.
>>82329376Not only Maul had a better design and a better screen presence, but even as a concept, he was much more interesting character. He was a Sith from birth. Much like the Jedi take kids as toddlers and induct them into their Jedi religion, Maul was abducted as a child and inducted into the Sith. He was like the dark mirror of the Jedi. And he was not necessarily irredeemably evil like Sidious, who was just the embodiment of evil, because Maul was kidnapped as a child by him and made a Sith not exactly with his consent. And since there could only be two, Maul had to be damn good. He had to be skilled not only in lightsaber combat, but in everything else, too. He was a valuable asset, Sidious spent decades on him. Well TCW ended up exploring it all anyway.What of Dooku? Ugh, he is a fallen Jedi. He was literally created to show that the Sith can be fallen Jedi, because Sidious didn't have time to train another toddler like Maul, as per Lucas. Wow. As if we didn't know that with Darth fucking Vader from the OT.What of Grievous? DeviantArt donutsteel cyborg with 4 arms who spins lightsabers. Why? To foreshadow Anakin becoming a cyborg? Surface level symbolism doesn't really justify the existence of this character, imo.But, frankly, none of them were characters in the movies. They were plot devices.
>>82329475This guy gets it
>>82329475Genndy Grievous was cool because he was equal parts slasher villain and out of his depth normie. For all the fear he inspired and all the jedi he killed, a single misstep could end him. Of course, that all went out the window from ROTS forward.
>>82328614The answer to "Should I turn my campaign into the Space WWF" is always "OH YEAH." Throw in a Macho Mandalorian, a Rowdy Rodian, and Dwayne "The Baron" Fel for added laughs.
>>82329919Don't forget Garm bel Hogan
>>82329475Dooku had potential precisely because he was a Jedi who left the order. Who became disillusioned with the Republic.But exploring such a character takes more time than you can ever spend on a 2nd-tier villain in a movie aimed at 12 year olds. In retrospect, it's sad that they did not have the technology, money and foresight to plan out several spin off series from the get-go.Grievous just feels off. It's like they had this cool concept of a cyborg general, the prototype for Darth Vader. . . . and then just had to make him a goofy King of Droids to fit in the plot.
>>82329954>Garm bel Hogan*cue I am a Real Corellian!'jaxar
>>82329954>Garm bel Hoganhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6CUHAzn7fg
>>82329919That's silly. The Empire would never tolerate such nonsense.
>>82329919Hutt Wrestling Federation >The Pig Show, Gamorrean, pure wrestler>The Clone with No Name, Kaminan Fett clone, Muay Thai >TIE Mauler, Human, Teras Käsi, the obvious ISB plan >Macho Mandalorian, Obnoxious mandalorian, Muay Thai >Ssrock Flessnar, Trandoshan version of Brock Lesnar, Ground-n-Pound >Rowdy Rodia Piper, Fem Rodian, Brazilian Ju-jitsu>Triple Herf, the not-so-obvious minor inquisitor, Krav Maga >Ric “Solar” Flare, Human, showboating wrestler>Bukee the Bouncer, Klatooinian playing up mobster stereotypes, Judo
>>82330511The Shockmaster, Zsinj, Melvar, and Vince McPalpatine would all beg to differ.
>>82329704Your mother's worthless. She's also a droid.>>82329763Genndy grievous was just Vader but white. DeviantArt OC coldsteel.
>>82330809>just Vader but whiteNot really. Grievous was an ambusher who had a hard time winning without stealth and terror tactics. Vader isn't exactly what anyone would call a sneeki breeki.
>>82330975he's talking about Genndy "Teleports behind you psshh nothin personnel kid" Grievous, not actual Grievous
>>82330975Nah, Genndy grievous was literally terminator who took on 3 jedi masters and multiple knights/padawans at the same time. Oh and he also spinned and jumped like a monkey and bounced off the walls.Vader was already terminator horror villain of Star Wars universe, and even he wasn't *that* good. Grievous was just deviantart OC homework copy.
>>82331026Yes, so am I. Tartakovsky Grievous only managed to take on Jedi when he could fight dirty. When he got a stand-up fight against Mace Windu, he got his shit pushed in.
>>82331036>Tartakovsky Grievous only managed to take on Jedi when he could fight dirty.hahahha, fuck off
>>82327869>>82329376>>82329475>>82330809I swear I have seen this exact same discussion before, with the same talking points and wording, even. Am I going insane, or is every sw thread plagued with terminal samefagging?
>>82331099I think you are delusional. Get this anon to the infirmary.
>>82331074Only one of the Jedi in your image died at the end of that campaign, and they were all wounded from the Acclamator crash. The other guys Grievous killed: a padawan who panicked and ran, and a master who was busy making a phone call and fighting battle droids.
>>82331248bro stophe literally fights Ki-Adi Mundi, Aayla Secura, Shaak Ti and Kkrukh at the same time, while also getting attacked by two other guys. Stop. This is a wet dream OC tier shit. This is precisely why Lucas nerfed the shit out of him, so you fags would shut the fuck up. This is embarrassing.
>>82331271Pictured: Grievous failing to actually kill anyone with his flashy bullshit. The only guy who actually died in your image is the dude on the top left.
>>82330809Shut the fuck up Lucas, you old fart.
>>82331284He shouldn't even be able to hold them at all. The fact that he fights off 5 Jedi at once (two of which are the masters of the Jedi High Council) effortlessly is ridiculous. Stop embarrassing yourself.But come on, tell me more about retarded shitty copes like Sifo-Dyas's blood made him good, or some uber implants gave him Jedi reflexes, or some other stupid shit.This situation should not be possible in the first place. End of story. This is some fanfic shit.
Oh, also that reminded me of something. RotS novelization said that Grievous was a better lightsaber duelist than Mace fucking Windu. Let that sink in. Grievous was a better duelist than the only man in the Galaxy who could equally fight Sheev. Not to mention how Labyrinth of Evil also contradicted genndy.
>>82331346Jedi who are already wounded and fatigued from getting blown out of orbit, crashing behind enemy lines, and being besieged by a droid army. Grievous stacked as many debuffs on those Jedi as he could, ambushed them, pulled out every trick in his arsenal, and he still only killed the jobbers.
>>82331383>novelizationTrash and non-canon.And Genndywars was of dubious canonicity when it came out, it was not spared in the great Disney purge. There is nothing of value in it other than faggots who want to jerk off to their Grievous power fantasies.
>>82331421>more copeAnon, they are Jedi. More so, they are Jedi Masters and Knights. They were hiding in the ruins. They were not actively fighting.And I repeat myself: Grievous factually cannot beat off 5 Jedi effortlessly, two of which are the members of the High Council, with simple windmill shit. Grievous can't spin like a monkey and jump on walls. Fanfic shit. C O P E.
>>82331454I am not disagreeing with you, in case you are wondering. I said how retarded people in the 00's were when they were writing Grievous.To assume that Grievous is a better duelist than Grievous is pure delusion. But then again, it's a book that gave us racist Dooku and shit ton of other embarrassing shit.
>>82331494>To assume that Grievous is a better duelist than Grievous is pure delusion.a better duelist than Mace Dindu*
>>82331468>They were not actively fighting.They were, until Grievous called off the droids. The Jedi Master who died first was still deflecting shots when he made that distress call. It's also why there weren't any regular clone troopers around to help. >effortlesslyHe blasted them out of orbit and threw droids at them until all the clone troopers who survived the initial crash were dead. And he still failed to kill most of the Jedi because his windmill bullshit is the equivalent of a third-world warlord flailing around with an LMG.
>tfw talking to a grievousfag
What can be done about the shrieking Genndy wars fan?
>>82331719You put them in their place by referencing George Lucas' Star Wars.
>>82331719Only screeching I hear is yours, anon.
>>82331719The haters who claim to despise it yet refuse to shut the fuck up about it are worse.
>>82331811How is crushing his chest relevant to anything? How exactly did it cripple him in the eyes of EUfags? He has implants in his HEAD, in his brain. He doesn't need his lungs, he can breathe in space. How the FUCK is this relevant? His hands and legs are purely mechanical, he can lose his limbs freely, he doesn't need oxygen into his limbs to be faster or whatever, how are his lungs fucking relevant whatsoever?Oh it's because genndy had a completely different character, whereas Lucas' Grievous was this sickly Nosferatu character from the start, so genndy said "ugh, i dunno, crush his lungs or something"
>>82331284he also killed sha'gi and the guy on the top right
>>82331877Kruhk survived. Somehow he made it all the way to the Legacy era.
>>82331778based and so uncivilizedpilled
>>82331877>>82331888>>82331271wasn't there also some werewolf looking guy he killed?
>>82331454>There is nothing of value in itI dunno about that, the C-3PO striptease was kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWOv6KINM0o
>>82331866>He doesn't need his lungs, he can breathe in spaceEvidently not forever. If he had 0 need whatsoever for his lungs or oxygen, then he wouldn't be wheezing and coughing in his other appearances.
>>82331937He was wheezing and coughing simply because Lucas thought it would be funny and because it's Vader foreshadowing, a reminder that he was alive and not a robot, simple as. It is a stylistic choice without necessarily any lore behind it when it was thought up. There is no reason whatsoever to assume it somehow explains him being "crippled" and not as donutsteel op as in the rest of genndyshit. I literally cannot fathom how *exactly* was it supposed to cripple his combat abilities.
>>82331719Wait for them to die off, Like most things time will end it in the end. Some sooner than other but in the end all things we know will be over.
>>82332015Actual right answer. The same happened with traviss mando fans. How many of them are actually still around compared to back in 2012.
>>82332210Filony mandos aren't real mandos.
>>82331973>simply because Lucas thought it would be funnyThat's the out of universe justification. Everything in Star Wars exists the way it does because Lucas or someone else thought it would be funny or cool or interesting. In universe, the wheezing and coughing show that Grievous still needs his lungs for something.>how it crippled his combat abilitiesHis brain and other vital organs still need air to function. He's not a Gand.
>>82332210Die-hard EUfags still exist 9 years after the Disney buy out.Prequel-haters still exist 22 years after The Phantom Menace.These people will never, EVER go away.
>>82291667There is a sith mistress.The players have yet to converse with her but she almost stopped their ship from taking off using The Force. They know she is bad news.Her teacher is even worse, but they assume he is just a friendly, harmess eccentric old man.
was their relationship doomed from the start?
>>82332453>There is a sith mistress.Is she hot though?
>>82332539Yes.Big sith-tiddies too.One of the PCs may or may not have slept with her. The players are not quite sure.
>>82331454Ask me how I know you have porn of Ashoka on your computer.
>>82332467>they dress like 15th century italians>the song about the star-crossed lovers' relationship is literally called "Across the Stars"Gee Will Shakespeare, what do you think? Should Lucas have changed Anakin's last name to Montague and Padme's to Capulet to make sure it was crystal clear for everybody?
>>82332612>Ask me how I know you have porn of Ashoka on your computer.Because he's alive, and has access to a computer with internet? Not exactly an achievement in clairvoyance, that's like knowing a specific German who drinks beer or a cowboy who has a saddle for his horse.
>>82332467No, there were a thousand different ways it could have gone better, if at least one person involved had an additional braincell.
>>82332612Why, you want me to share?
>>82332467>relationship in a prequel to a story whose outcome you already knowGee, anon, I fucking wonder.
>>82332657I've come to realize that it's not even Ashoka that I hate. It's Ashoka's fans. You're all the worst.
>>82332657>cowboy who has a saddle for his horse.Not exclusively riding bareback. Coward.
>>82332700I've done that. It fucking hurts.
>>82332691>NOOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE THIS CUTE FEMALE CHARACTER!!!!!>Why yes I enjoy Touhou, how could you tell?
Bump limit reached, time to start the last command storytime!
>>82332682No. God no. I just think all the the Gennedy clone wars haters are actually just rabid Ashoka fanboys. Most were probably going through puberty when they saw the 3d clone wars so they formed a weird puberty attachment to her. Much like how there are still weirdoes how scream about Asuka and Rei. It's because they saw Evangelion at the time they were going through puberty. The hate for the Gennedy clone wars then ties into it being because their waifu isn't in it and they decide to get personally offended or some shit like that.
>>82331719Genndy fans are usually pretty chill, you only have the delusional anti-Grievous shitposter to blame for throwing a trantum.
>>82332725The fuck is Touhou? Also, I don't hate Ashoka. They managed to eventually burb her annoying tendencies and gave her a cool arc of leaving the jedi order, even though it was just ripping off The Fugitive. If you're going to rip off a movie for your character though, that's a good one to do it with.
>>82332750I don't even like Ahsoka. I just find it funny to watch you pretend that anyone who doesn't like your shitty cartoon shorts has to fit into your bogeyman pigeonhole.
>>82332750>everyone who doesn't like genndywars is secretly an ashoka fanboyIt must be a blissful existence to be able to categorize everyone who disagrees with you into one grab bag faction that you happen to dislike.
>>82332725what is this post alluding to? what does touhou have to do with anything?
>>82332750I was 27 years old when I first saw Ahsoka in TCW (to be fair I got it on dvd like 5 years after the show actually aired) and realized she was my wife.
>>82332774>The fuck is Touhou
>>82332783>>82332791I was immediately offered Ashoka porn upon making my claim. Really not disproving my point here.
>>82332791Is it really his problem when you keep proving him right?
>>82332782>has planetary shield>it doesn't shield vs a single turbolaser from an ISDTalk about being scammed by whoever they subcontracted to build it.
>>82332847>>82332853Show me where I posted any pictures of ashoka
>>82332847Are you really so autistic as to take that seriously?Don't answer, of course you are.
>>82332833Okay. So you're mentally deranged. Thank you for your input.
>>82332857>>82332862[Phezzanese laughing in the distance]
>>82332862Anon, I don't think you understand what Thrawn's plan was. he never shot through the shields.
>>82332225They are the real ones, the rest is EU fanfic, sorry.
>>82332691I hate EUfags, for one. What a bunch of faggots, 95% of them deserve a bullet, desu.
>>82332765>Genndy fans are usually pretty chillHAHAHAHAHAYou're new to the Internet, aren't you?
>>82332893Anon, if you look at the comic you can clearly see turbolaser bolts striking what looks to be a military airfield of some kind. Note the blue shield effect just before that too.
>>82332795Probably some faggot mindbroken by the /v/ tournaments because that's one of the most prominent reasons I see people bring up Touhou outside of its designated boards nowadays.
>>82332985We have a special guest star in this comic today.Mister Notim Portant.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmOjOCK6Dnw
>>82332948Oh please, stop with that annoying victim complex.
>>82333092And that's all for today. Happy turkey slaughtering day to you burgers out there, till next time.
>>82333009What? Genndyfags are insane. And their show is shit. Watched it last year for the first time, and was IMMENSELY disappointed, after how hard some schizos shilled it on 4chan. I was like "Really? This is it? Flash cartoon tier shit that is praised by some as the greatest Star Wars entry?" Naah.
>>82332933Well, at least you're honest about being a tourist from off-board.
>>82333145Sorry there wasn't enough clone troopers yelling about their brothers for you anon.
>>82333101A happy ending, for now. The drawn baby faces look absurd though and gave me a nice little laugh.
>>82333101That room doesn't look sanitary at all, nor private.
>>82333231Yeah, it was too much outright retardation and the same three moves with ugly ass genndy's "style" instead. And Mat Lucas. As if I hadn't had enough of him in RotS videogame and Battlefront 2. ThAt WaS ExHiLaRAtInG!
>>82333347>And Mat LucasLiterally, who?
>>82332725>Why yes, I enjoy Touhou, how could you tell?
>>82333145>Genndyfags are insanePot, meet kettle. These hysterics are making you look like the crazy person here.
>>82333425>Grievous confirmed a 2hu lover
>>82333189>82331468>82332933>82332725>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1630108747183/>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1401675680257/>https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/filename/1565841920974/Yeah... I better trust in anon's clairvoyance sooner next time.
>>82333649>a picture saved from 4chan is all the same person
>>82333676High probability when most if not all of those posts reflect similar opinions regarding one topic in particular, have the same filename, and share the same kind of inflammatory wording and writing style.Anyway, fuck off back to /tv/.
>>82333815Unironically touch grass, schizo. You think everyone who saved a picture from 4chan is the same person and you attempt to stalk someone on a fucking anonymous imageboard, and you can't even reply to the posts correctly.Holy mental illness, batman.
>>82333941>he thinks I was attempting to reply to his postsI just checked the archive because I was curious about the accusations of crossposting and what else in this thread.Stop projecting so hard and take the L already.
>>82334037lmao it's pathetic when retards pretend they are not retarded by "not giving yous"This is not reddit, you pathetic manchild. Reply to the posts like a man. (You)s mean jack shit.
>>82333941Different anon here, I have touched grass, it's not that magnificent.Then again you city dwellers probably don't even know what wood bark feels like.
>>82334602Different anon here, birch bark is great for starting fire to firewood. Highly recommend using when having trouble with having nothing to start fire with.
>>82334636Birch bark is basically paper (which is also great for starting fires) so no shit.
>>82334602>Luke, did I ever tell you about grass?>Grass was a type of plant native to many planets that often grew in large patches in fields. Alderaan had green grassy hills. The area around Traitor's Remorse had cyan grass.>Grass was also common on Lothal and Holshef, a man in hiding from the Galactic Empire, would often ask Merei Spanjaf to describe things like the color of the grass or the sunset. Before the arrival of the Empire on the planet, one could chart the arrival of spring by the shade of green in the grasslands. There was a saying among traders in the Outer Rim Territories that one had not seen the color green until they'd landed in the grasslands of Lothal. Prior to the Empire's devastation, the grass was everywhere on Lothal, spanning the planet's continents like a sea of golden-green. Following the planet's liberation from the Empire, much of the former glory of the planet's rolling grasslands was restored.>Thirstgrass was a species of carnivorous plant that cut the skin of passing animals with sharp blade-like leafs and absorbed their blood. Grass was a foodstuff for certain herbivore creatures such as nerfs.>And it was a good friend.
>>82334700>Uncle Ben are you off your meds again? You speak as if the Empire had been defeated.
>>82334666Yes, and it was used as paper, Satan. But I doubt those city-dwellers that recommend grass touching would know that either, now would they?Then again, they probably wouldn't be able to recognise birch tree in the first place.
>>82334751>Luke, did I ever tell you about Force Visions?>Force visions were an aspect of the Force, an ability to see into the past, the future and other places. An ability once possessed by all Jedi, in the final years of the Galactic Republic before its transformation into the Galactic Empire, it had grown rare. Some Sith, as Force users, were also capable of experiencing Force visions.>Despite their prophetic nature, Force visions were not absolute in their content and could be left up to much interpretation, with the emotions of the witness potentially clouding their judgement on the issue or otherwise causing them to misread the vision. Some Jedi attributed this to the future constantly being in motion, with the visions merely warning of what could happen. As such, visions were treated with great caution by the Order. >And they were a good friend.
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