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Don't do Tzeentch juice Edition

Previously in the Court of the Crimson King: >>81663175

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>homemade missions:
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Both look like trash.
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>>81691657
Both are nerds
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Which army should I choose if I want to have the maximum % points of marines from the standard GW plastic marine kit with forge world chapter parts added on obv?
Am buying recast dreadnoughts so that's not a problem
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>>81692114
mechanicum
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>>81692114
TSons, TPC sells the Sekhmet upgrade kit separately so you can even have mostly plastic Sekhmets if you like
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>>81692250
>TPC
Maybe if you wanted to wait months for sub FW models
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>>81692370
There's probably other recasters that sell it separately too if you don't like em
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>>81692114
RG/AL. Get CSM beakies, FW bolters and loyalist tac squad arms, and upgrade pack heads and shoulder pads. Of course, other legions can be made in that way too.
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why is 30k grimdark and 40k bright and optimistic, shouldn't it be the other way around?
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>>81686043
Alternative take would be spooky Keys of Hel Iron Hands.
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>>81692785
>grimdark
Always was.

Things went to shit the second Horus turned traitor and all hope of a bright future went to the shitter.
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>>81692114
Late heresy Sons of Horus or word bearers, use the csm tac squad kit as a base with fw pads and heads.

You should pick based on lore and playing style tho
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>>81692785
>40k bright and optimistic
I don't think you have been paying attention.
I get it, you are trying to stunt because it's the 30k thread, I know.
40k has shed the 90s style grimdark presentation (that 30k NEVER did) for a 'Lurking Shadow' approach: Things are stable right now, but who knows what is going to happen next? Set pieces like Vigilus and Octavious figure in to the new approach.
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>>81692930
Tbf, I get the impression most Heresy players don't actually follow what's happening in the 40k lore and just go "primaris bad kek".
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>>81692930
>Things are stable right now, but who knows what is going to happen next? Set pieces like Vigilus and Octavious figure in to the new approach.
Say what you like, post 5th edition 40k is just a sad comedy of what it was before. Also 40k was truly grimdark/derp till the 4th edition. Modern 40k (end of 7th+) is just a sludge for retards.
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>>81693058
Because mayby they don't enjoy 40k and avoiding it is deliberate and intentional? Give it a thought bro.
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>>81693058
40k having advancing "lore" rather than just being a setting is gay, Though I guess you look forward to the next epic event like you do the next marvel movie. And primaris are bad, kek.
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Can one of you fine gentlemen update me if there's been anything new with those leaked MK6 images? I never knew what became of all that, or if they're actually scaling up 30k minis or what the deal is .... before I start a new project, ya know?
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>>81694772
No, there hasn't been anything. If you're waiting for this new box to come about before starting an army, you'll probably be waiting a long time, if it ever does come out.
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>>81694772
That was an unapproved leak so they had to kill it. Sorry anon, no mk VI squads or plastic spartan for you.
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>>81694772
i’m expecting it to be revealed on the 30th
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THICK
BRASSY
HEAT SINKS
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>>81694772
why would you post that abomination?
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>>81694894
>>81694932
>>81694941
I'm mostly just checking if I missed something glaring ... been very removed for a few months. I'm going to just start my new project. Thanks anons
>>81695114
to bother you, specifically
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>>81693130
40k might claim to be "advancing" the lore, but in actuality nothing seems to happen. Not a single notable named character has died, and nothing really seems to shift much. Even Cadia being blown up had no impact whatsoever, Cadians are still the main IG protagonists and just carrying on doing their thing like nothing fucking happened.
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>>81692114
Ultramarines, pick legs with rounded pads and torsos with cables.
Add FW heads.
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>>81693058
Most Heresy players don't follow what's happening in the Heresy either.
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>>81695724
It's hard to blame them. I also had to quit reading the HH novels from BL for a while, there's so much trash it gets depressing and it put me off from progressing with my 30k army.
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>>81695614
>Not a single notable named character has died

They were massacred.
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>>81695819
Death would have been a better fate than what GW has done to them
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>>81695724
>Emprr gud
>Hours bad
>Simple as
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>>81695845
Voted Emprah. No pooftas. End of.
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>>81695843
hear,hear
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>>81695819
This makes me glad I don't play any mainstream factions. I'm safe from this shit.
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>>81696505
>I don't play "mainstream"
As if that doesn't make you a participant in the 40k shitshow?
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>>81695819
>muh rubicooom
Yup, some people unironicaly thing it's good writing.
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>>81696642
I only play HH and sometimes KT and ZM. Quit 40k before 8e.
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>>81696669
I'd love to make a diorama of primaris Calgar and some Intercessors massacring manlet Ultramarines, inc. manlet Calgar Order 66 style, and title it "Crossing the Rubicon."
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>>81695819
>that Raven Guard anime protag
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>>81696872
good idea
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>>81696878
That is what becoming weeb does to you

Anime, not even once
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>>81697130
His Storm Eagle probably blasts Bury the Light on approach
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I hate monopose crap so much. Bought a DA praetor to convert into a biker praetor, but turns out the head and sword are really the only things i can use because the torso and legs are one piece. Guess I shoulda checked before hand but it's really lame.
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>>81697177
Impulsor. Primarines are too good to use those filthy classic marine vehicles as transports according to GW

>As a reminder, this is what the Kayvaan Shrike model looked like before crossing the Rubricoom
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>>81697232
It's resin dude. Just take a good sharp hobby knife or jeweler's saw and cut the torso from the legs. Try thinking outside the pre-molded kitbashing box once in a while
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>>81697232
>Guess I shoulda checked before
You got it right
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Post whatever you're working on!
Just put together this group of downtrodden salamanders.
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>>81695819
Other than the RG and the SW, those are great models.
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>>81697539
>great
what's so great about them?
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>>81697715
They're bigger manlet lover, what else? Oh yeah I still get models while HH gets basically manlets.
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>>81697749
Post a full body pic of yourself next to a tape measure
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>>81697749
>why are the cool?
>They're bigger
mentaly handicapped person detected
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>>81697749
Whatever miss size queen
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>>81697465
>Try thinking outside the pre-molded kitbashing box once in a while

I just wanted the torso, cape, sword and head, where else would I get those?
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>>81697517
Fuck off, Macca.
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>>81697987
Like he said, just cut him apart for pieces
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>>81697749
>primaris fag obsessed about height
Trooscalers were the real manlets all along
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>>81698026
Nothing bad about truescale if it fucking brings something and is well done. Which means 98% of them are just primaris shits with HH helmets and occasionaly trimmed knees and II-VI torsos awkwardly inserted.
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>>81698086
99% of the tr00scalers just want bigger models, they don't even actually know what truescale really is or means.
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>>81697715
They look better and less squeezed. Manlet marines always look weird with all the details and bits crammed on.
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>>81698210
>They look great
>What makes them look great?
>They look better
Careful gentlemen, we're dealing with a highly refined genius here
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>>81697472
I sculpted some flayed skin for my Night Lords Terror Squads.
I also tried sculpting a chaplain helmet but it kinda turned out more silly than threatening lol
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>>81697232
Ever heard of reposing? Hobbylet.
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>>81698152
Agreed, it's retarded. If someone attempts a truscale the first thing he should handle are proportions. So far haven't seen any model fulfilling that criteria.
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>>81698026
>post-2019
>still thinking fakemarines are bigger
Today I will remind them. The only thing they had going for them is not a thing.
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>>81698259
>upgrades full of skull helmets
>bothers with GS
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>>81698329
>I'll post a pic comparing a guy standing straight, who's also a conversion making him taller vs a guy who's strongly leaning forward on a bent leg
you've showed them anon
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>>81698350
I just thought it would be fun to try
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>>81698394
>conversion making him taller
It's a stock Master of Executions model with a different chest part. The height and pose are unaltered.
>muh pose
It won't account for the zoomtroon being a fucking shortstack nugget. Stop coping and start roping, shitmaris boi.
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>>81698458
now do the same picture up front, not an angle you retard.
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>>81698329
>2468x2039
>painted like shit
>dust and hairs all over
Is this a falseflag to make anti-primaris bros look bad
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>>81698458
New Chaos sculpts are much taller than classic firstborn.

I'm not even part of your discussion but Chaos marines were made bigger to look more in-line with their Primaris counterparts.
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>>81698545
Please just shut the fuck up and post models.

Please
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>>81698565
>Chaos marines were made bigger to look more in-line with their Primaris counterparts.

Exactly. As were SoB, new IG models, you name it. Meaning Primarshits are already back to the same height comparatively to other races as classic marines used to be back in the day.
Scale creep is hilarious.
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>>81698545
>huh duh muh manlet meme
>gets told off
>shifts goalposts, shits on paint jobs
Piss off retard, your troll threads didn't work and this tourism won't either.
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Any good place to get IF combat shields?
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>>81698629
>bro everything was upscaled bro
>except for the only models relevant here that is 30k marines
bravo nigga
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>>81698348
>feels bad man :'(
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>>81698721
>what are Mk3 DG
>what are mk4 TS
>what are 2019 and leaked mk6
>what are upcoming mk5 WE
Retard.
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>>81698348
Look on a bright side - ferrus being still alive would probably undermine entire Imperial wareffort with his autism.
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>>81698259
Skin looking good, nice effort spookybro. Head look a bit goofy tho.
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>>81698755
>>what are Mk3 DG
40k models you fucktard
>>what are mk4 TS
same as above
>>what are 2019 and leaked mk6
2019 are still manlets
leaks are leaks and no one had such mini in their hands so far
>what are upcoming mk5 WE
take meds you idiot
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>>81698755
>what are 40k chaos models
>what are unreleased minis that no one has seen live yet
lol you make a very compelling argument
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>>81698770
Thanks, I think I'm gonna try to assemble a chaplain using that head and extra mkIV bits anyway and run with the goofy look
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>>81698838
>>81698809
Great samefag, but if you weren't a tourist, you'd know people have used them for 30k with little to no modification. And the leaked images are clearly similar size. Got that soap close at hand? Put it to good use.
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>>81698865
>you'd know people have used them for 30k with little to no modification
AKA "fuck off from hhg to your proper thread you lazy faggot?". Yes.
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Ohhh manlet armies ohhhh manlet erotic. Manlet make good suckies, tiny erotic proportions
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>>81698889
Yes, you should piss of to the 40k hobbylet general and drool over other cucks' unaltered monopose trash in poster boy colour scheme.
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This thread coming back from page 9 was the worst thing that could've happened to it.
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>>81699325
no, it can get worse
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>>81695614
Eldrad Ulthran came back to life sometime around 5th, then they redid the 3E Eye of Terror campaign with permanent effects instead.

It's progress of a kind.
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>>81698456
Fuck those, get one of the Japanese woodworking razor saws, they’re frighteningly sharp though. Being able to cut clean through without a backing is nice and they’re flexible so you can get into small spaces nicely.
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>>81698545
It’s WB anon, he lives in Russia and hates life and happiness. He goes on 4chan and sees how much happier the rest of the world is and freaks the fuck out every thread. Just ignore him and move on.
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Here they are. The paint is horrendously thick (not as awful as the first go over, but still bad) and they look like shit but they’re painted. AND! I now know exactly what I’ll be doing for the next ones and won’t have to redo so many coats. Maybe by the time I eat through 30 more of these, 10 deathsworn, and a bunch of drop pods I’ll be ready to paint a character.

I do need advice on how to do the weapons though. Do I do black and then highlight with a lighter black or should I do a metal style? Or a blue highlight? Idk.
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>>81700362
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>>81700362
You're not leaving the bases that colour are you? the marines blend right into them. Snow bases would be a perfect choice, and you can make snow with white paint, pva, and bicarbonate of soda.
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>>81700261
Are those swas folded 5689000 times like katana?
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>>81700490
Yes, grorious nippon steel cut cheap chankoro resin like butter.
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>>81700480
I had a half a bottle of this GW basing crap so I stuck it on, in the past I’ve always just done clean black bases. I was debating between sand or snow.
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>>81700564
>in the past I’ve always just done clean black bases.
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>>81700394
2 thin coats =/= 10 thin coats. I have so many layers of paint on there from either not being able to get the colour I wanted or fucking something up. The sgt in particular has been completely painted over three times now. The face plates have at least five coats each because I couldn’t decide on a gold/bronze. Regardless, I’ve got one squad done and now I have a coherent plan for the next one that only takes two coats and a wash for the armour, and two more and a wash for the golds and/or bronzes. The casts are dogs hit anyways since FW never did a great job with the MkII in the first place and they’re shitty recasts, but I should be able to do my next ones with little enough paint that they don’t look like they’re being virus bombed.
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>>81700659
No ones reading this, sorry.
Just thin your paint, lmao.
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>>81700659
Okay but why would you do this?
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>>81700564
why not add some kino snow effect?
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>>81698764
This is like 1000 monkeys typing until they produce a 4chan post.
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>>81701167
That's true though. And his death (and entire loyalist deployment) at Istvaan was a testament to that..
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>>81695614
Well, yes, exactly, which is why "advancing plot" is retarded and people who want it are idiots - GW isn't going to do anything that would fundamentally shift the status quo in terms of selling miniatures, so the only kind of "plot" they can do is the shallowest of Saturday Morning Cartoons, where one side always stops just short of beating another and the main characters of the "losing" side just sidle off into the background with a "Curse you, [insert faction], you've won this round, but one day we shall return! Nyaaaaaahahahah!".
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>>81698259
you are gonna need bigger and deeper stiches for the skin because your current oens won't be seen after you paint them. as for the skull: pic rel. spook on, anon.
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>>81701267
Theres no way he could have known that there were traitors within the "loyalists" and the point there is that he was overly emotional so the opposite of autism.
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>>81701421
I think the stitching will be visible when I paint but if not I might paint a visible "thread"
If I went any deeper into the greenstuff while sculpting the stitching I think I would be separating the pieces too much since I made the skin flaps relatively thin to be in scale.
That skull tutorial looks really handy though, I'll give that a try next time.
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>>81701519
Ok so entire logistics, strategy and tactics to be more pedantic. Ferrus was burning with rage and didn't even wait for majority of his legion. Entire battle on part of IH led by Ferrus was basically just pushing forward without coordination with RG and Sals. Yes, he couldn't have known about the big suprise but until they have arrived he has shown that his own iron doctrines of warfare mean nothing when Ferrus angry, Ferrus smash.
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>>81698755
plague marines are larger than nu-scale CSM though
it's just because of their mutations and shit
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>>81701519
Ferrus had the autist tard rage that /tg/ typically attributes to
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>>81697996
>changes battery in seals radio
I worked with the special forces!!!
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>>81700287
>how much happier the rest of the world is
where's he looking?
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>>81701722
Hah, that is funny. I've been to seaworld, and the seals there clearly had no radios built into them
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>>81700659
why did you just paint over the previous layers instead of stripping and starting over

are you retarded
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>>81701665
No that's Perty, Ferrus only lost his shit cause Horus and Fulgrim turned traitor.
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>>81693058
Primaris are bad
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>>81697539
Literally all of them are trash except mephiston, calgar is the worst out of them all.
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>>81702389
>Ferrus only lost his shit

I mean, most people go mental when they find out their significant other has been sleeping around
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>>81697749
Primaris players are all turbo fags.
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>>81693058
Most of the people I play with (and myself) got into Heresy because we got fed up with 40k. We don't know what's happening any more because we're actively avoiding it.
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>>81695819
Calgar, shrike, and the white scars guy are the biggest downgrades of all.

Mephiston and Blackmane's models were so old and shit that even the primaris shit is an improvement.
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>>81700362
Brah chuck those hams on some contrasting bases (Snow, Sand or marble) and they will 100% be table worthy. Gj anon you are getting better ever time.
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>>81702658
Everyone gangsta until the church starts walking!
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>>81700287
Are you still mad, BAfag? Nobody's forcing you to play houserules if you don't like them. Really, pump down.
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>>81701665
Nope, anon is right. He was an emo faggot, it's arguably more disruptive than autism.
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>>81701661
Not really larger, just bulkier. It's because of mk3 and all the extra fat plating, older models have the same discrepancy between this armour and every other one.
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>>81702907
I can agree on the BA, but only because he's easy to salvage. Ragnar doesn't have robes to hide the ugly body, so you'll have to redo it all with cutting, filing and resculpting his entire suit. At this point it's easier to kitbash him from grey hunters, the good SW upgrade sprue and maybe some ass marine bits like legs and arms.
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>>81702389
nope, i’m right and you’re wrong :3 sorry for your loss
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>>81703503
Nice anon.
Also does titanicus have rules for Imperator titans, or is everyone using homebrewed rules?
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>>81703640
there are no rules, nor are there homebrew rules
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>>81703647
So how to you run them?
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>>81703751
Man I can barely even haul my ass to the shop to shop much less play
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>>81703503
they're beautifully individual

if you'd made two the same I don't think I'd like them as much
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>>81703875
Aren't all Imperator Titans individual creations?
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>>81697257
Tbh, fucking retard, glad he got a new design
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>>81702360
I want to say it was because I was lazy, which is part of it, but really it’s because I can’t stand painting. I suspect by the time I had stripped and redone them the four tries to get what I wanted (I did strip the first attempt which was thicker than all these combined) I would have just gone back to not painting them for another week. To actually get this done at any point in the foreseeable future I just have to make myself power through it until I can actually be remotely happy with what I produce. I am a realistic man, not a willful one.

Pic related is the original coat *shudder*
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>>81703503
Sexy AF. You should do something with the plasma gun on one of them though, they look beautifully individualistic right now but the plasma gun cuts that look a lot. Idk if it’s the right size but I’d grab a recast sicaran omega turret and use one of those on one of them. Not only would the omega finally have someone use one but it would give it that “artificer” look.
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>>81701392
That's because GW can't into writing campaign books, and also can't into having their main characters teleport around and have slap fights for marketting points.
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Going through HH audiobooks in order, I just got started on Know No Fear, which I gather to be one of the most well-liked. Glancing at the dramatis personae, however, I see that it lists more characters than any other novel so far, most of them Ultramarines, and the first several chapters jumped between a bunch of different establishing viewpoints.

Is this going to be like most novels in which just a handful of the listed characters are especially relevant, or is it significantly harder to keep track of all the names getting thrown around? I'm thinking perhaps I might be better off reading the text than listening in this case to remember who's who.
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When the new box set comes out, what legion will you paint your beakies as?

I'm thinking iron warriors
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>>81705926
>new boxed set
As if manlets will ever be made in large quantities again. I'm telling you it's Primaris all the time now. When was the last time a non character/hq manlet was released? Years anon, it's been years. Most funny thing is thinking plastic MkV or MK II will ever be a thing. You manlets will be removed once Cawl is written in and primaris is there giving manlets the thunderwarrior treatment for the heresy.
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>>81705971
weak bait.
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I did the lascutter also. Now I have enough melee weapons to equip each of my warlords with at least one melee tool.
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>>81704958
from the side the plasma guns are different sizes but they're still quite similar mostly because it was too expensive to get an alternate.
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>>81705971
take meds and stop posting for your own happiness anon
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the warbringer looks pretty cool with the manticore racks on it
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>>81695819
tbf the bottom ones look fantastic. top ones look boring and underwhelming.
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>>81695819
Is that primaris calgar and blackmane? I realize I haven’t looked at 40k marine characters in a year or so but who tf are the others???
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>>81705971
Me thinks you underestimate how many players are put off by the tacticool look. Going to that new look was actually the biggest fuck up with primaris, and there are a lot of fuckups with primaris. (I’m even including the fluff for them)
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>>81706679
What printer do you use? I think I’m finally gonna bite the bullet and get one. I’ve been trying to find someone to print me the storm wangle transporter for a couple weeks and all the quotes are over 1200 bucks. It literally is under a 30 hour print for all five pre assembled, supported build plates.
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>>81705926
Alpha legion, and maybe a knights errant kitbash project
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>>81705926
Take your meds.
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>>81705926
white scars
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Couldn't get masking tape soon enough
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>>81708466
Anon, please don't do this to me. It's such an awesome model, please at least clean up all the little fuck ups
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>>81708466
holy shit....
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>>81708466
Keep it up. Hobbylets such as you are the source of cheap ebay rescue models.
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>>81708466
You're not even trying. Your models anyway.
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>>81708923
Didn't know we had crystal brush winners here
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>>81708466
>Be strong, Luther
>Be strong for Caliban
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>>81708937
Trying what ? It's a toy soldier game. I'm not investing my life in that
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Some motherfuckers here act like every model must be painted with nightshift-tier attention. Maybe they should out of the basement to understand not everyone has the time and autism to paint top notch models
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>>81708959
>>81708999
Then you do not belong. Go play garbage like cucks of whore with its cheap shitty sculpts and preferred painting method of "dunk it inna quickshade".
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>>81709027
Sure thing buddy. Now why don't you let the adult have their fun and go play in the ball pit ?
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>>81709027
>Then you do not belong.
I'm glad i do not belong to whatever little safe space you cling to
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>>81708959
>>81708999
>paints his models like shit
>posts them
>recieves critique
>"it's toy soldier hobby, if you paint models good you have autism"
ok
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>>81709100
This ain't critique. This is just anons sperging out
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>>81709136
Because your model is really badly painted, you have ignored all the advices given (contemptor post) and instead of showing a bit of humility you go all out with calling people autsists who live in basements if they paint better than you.
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>>81709159
The sum of the "advice" in the contemptor post :
>Invest in masking tape to do the chessboards
>barrels not drilled
>messy highlights
>bad freehand
>Try something easier, like sponge&oil DG.
>Please remove the script. It looks childlish
Notice how there's no script and the barrels are drilled ?
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Uh Anons, WarCom asked people about their 30k Traitor Legion pics and this is the only one they complimented.
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>>81709181
Barrels come with the holes molded into them, doesn't count
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>>81709181
>>Invest in masking tape to do the chessboards
>>messy highlights
>>bad freehand
And you've ignored it. Especially the amsking tape advice.
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>>81709230
He used the awful plastic asscan and didn't bother to fix the sculpt. A fucking hobbylet clown.
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>>81707461
>Calgar
>Tigurius (Ultra chief librarian)
>Shrike (RG chapter master, former 3rd company captain)
>Blackmane
>Khan (WS 3rd company captain)
>Mephisto (BA chief librarian)
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>>81709201
Primaris in 30k legion schemes is the ultimate shitpost meme
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>>81708959
Filthy casual
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>wanted to get this
>realize that the good relic gun for it is not invented yet
Can this thing still be played in 30k as well as its counterpart Preceptor?

>verification not required
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>>81709576
At least he's not....SoH.
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>>81709576
>bought some primaris to use with my 30k models in 40k, painting and styling them the same way
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favorite legs and crotch design? B2 for me. (3 has no armor between legs and is just undersuit as the case with custards and primarisharts)
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>>81709768
>custards
None. they have 0 to do with real human anatomy.
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>>81709768
>B
All of them are shit, but B has an immovable armour plate that would make moving legs impossible.
>>81709790
this. Marines anatomy was always a fucking joke and retards at GW didn't even fix it with priamris crap.
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>>81709790
>>81709846
how do you do, fellow doctors?
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>>81709861
>you need to be a doctor to know how human looks like
Are you retarded or horribly difigured?
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>>81709201
Proof I'm right, primaris will be written in and firstborn will be written out and given the thunderwarrior treatment for the heresy. PRIMCHADS RISE
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>>81709576
I have to confess, back in summer 2017 when that garbage first came out, I bought the starter box. Thought I could experiment with it. Had a bunch of mk3 bolter arms, backpacks and helmets left over from making ass squads and jump destroyers, so I converted the shit out of them and painted them in legion scheme. As time went by and the fluff deteriorated and they got an obnoxious zoomer fanbase, I regretted it and in the end sold them.
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>>81709768
Not only. 3 is also on the bionic legs from the old metal IH upgrade. Looks silly, 2 is better, yeah.
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>>81710153
>>81709846
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>>81707500
nah those are from the aeronautica ground assets box
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Ok, so since DA rules are pile of indian shit but still have a few good things going, what are in your opinion those things? Me:
>equipment section
Everything is top notch here
>Companions
>Inner Circle Knights
>some of Hekatonystyka stuff
>Hoguin
>Corswain ???
Is there anything else?
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>>81710787
Why Holguin is good? Isn't he trash option?
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>>81710787
>>Hoguin
wait, he has rules?!
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>>81710827
He's definitely not. He's good. Though to make him brilliant you'll need to drop a stasis on the target first. And if you also manage to get rad nades too he's just outstanding.
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>>81707500
kys proontcuck, your garbage poor people shit is worse than sculpts from the 60s
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>>81709201
they’re being nice in case he gets swarmed by autists like the SoH guy from WD last year
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>>81710827
I checked his rules and he's actually quie decent as beatsticks go.
>S6 AP2 A6 on a charge with -1I which is irrelevant if target is hit with stasis.
>mastercrafted and deathwing meaning two rerolls in challenges or one vs mooks
>Child of Terra, he and his unit rerolls 1s to wound
Like other anon said, if you also have rad grenades he's esentially IDing T4 and hitting before anything because of stasis.
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>>81711465
>swarmed by autists
Nice cope shcizo.
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>>81711465
Yes, poor Simon got totally undeserved criticism and "hate" from those bad nazis.
P.S. You're a faggot.
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>>81711425
>oblivios that FW makes their minis on CPU
>oblivious to the fact that he pays dozens of $ for what could have been printed and be of higher quality but is in shit FW resin instead
oh irony
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>>81710787
You can pull some real bullshit with The Steel Fist and enough ICs with Ironwing because of the wording, plus you get access to Spartans for any 15+ Infantry blob. The only thing that prevents real bullshit with a 4++ Thunderhawk or 2++ Stormbird is that you'd have to embark all your dudes on it in game time, but even a 4++ Spartan with 10 Terminators in it sounds like hell to deal with. The only thing stopping a 2++ Spartan from happening is the difficulty of getting 5 Ironwing ICs together - since Apothecaries don't count. It's literally You Won't Play Me: The List.

In fact with the Stormbird I'm not sure there's anything stopping your HQ Ironwing dudes being embarked on a Rhino on the Stormbird to meet Rite requirements and getting out of the Rhino but remaining inside the Stormbird on turn 1, turning into the Fuck Around And Find Out Blimp. It's not the best platform, but 2++ with Orbital Strikes, six fuck-you missiles and a reasonably large number of tl lascannon ain't bad. Might even kill a small titan.
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>>81711465
he asked for it to be fair
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>>81706172
do you have a pic with a marine next to it for comparison?
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>>81711425
You gotta admit this is a pretty decent sculpt though. https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/blast-eagle-transport
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>>81712891
He's just assblasted that people are smart enough to print better quality stuff for cheaper than his consoom resin. Not that he plays or has models for that matter.
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>>81711425
lol seething AND coping
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>>81712742
he was a total tosser top to bottom, and very obviously lied several times in his interview
>I’m a big fan of HH i know all about it
>yeah these are early crusade guys, right when loken joined the mournival
>painted SoH green
>yeah i made these jetbikes before there were jetbike models
>yeah alan personally gave me a handie under the table and told me what a good boy i was
and then he also had to go and act smug and brag that he only got in cause he knew a guy who worked for WD.
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This model is so awesome, Wish more people used it.
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>>81713176
Silly me forgot the file
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>>81713075
Let's not forget that Alan was dead before the primaris became a thing. And the anon you've responded to is obviously trolling.
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>>81713176
>>81713199
Maybe people would if it wasn't Warhammer World exclusive.
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>>81713332
Forgeworld East has plenty of em stocked up anon
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>>81712891
It was a good and easy presup print. Around 700ml
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>>81713523
need a sicaran and contemptor stl please halp anon
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>>81713523
what resin are you using?
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>>81713199
I-I-IS THAT AXE EAGLE SHAPED?!!1!?
AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH SAVE ME FILEOFFMAN
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>>81712958
>his consoom resin
>has no models
At least be consistent with your trolling, tourist.
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>>81713856
Holy shit are you still butt hurt about that? Top kek
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>>81712891
It's too thin and undefined, like a videogame model. That's the issue, proontshit is made by game people and not actual sculptors. Also it's worse than moulding when it comes to internal strength of the piece, a cast is one big chunk that won't flake apart, unlike layered printed garbage. Go get roping, troll. You should've done that after your shitmaris bait didn't work.
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>>81713919
Making fun of dumb people isn't butthurt.
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>>81713856
Anon, that's clearly a bottle opener built into it.
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>>81713953
Dunno anon, bringing it up every thread when everybody else has moved on does look a little sad.
Also, wasn't that whole shitshow about aquilla's and not eagles?
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>>81714060
Don't engage the mentally ill, it only encourages them
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>>81714060
There is at least one other dude posting about it. Take it lightly, every good community needs its in-jokes.
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>>81714039
Admech are real madlads, what else did they slap on stuff? So far there's a carrying handle on fucking hand flamers that I spotted.
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>>81711465
He got what he fucking deserved
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>>81714556
Shadman, no!
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>>81714491
All you and your imaginary friend are doing is shitting up the thread(s) with unfunny shit. If you feel the need to force "in-jokes" like this just to feel validated, you're clearly very new and probably a tourist.
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>>81714588
It's a reddit thing, you wouldn't understand
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>>81713199
Why a psyker is summoning a fucking blood letter?
Does sculptor lose their mind?
That’s the sole reason I decided to not buy it atm.
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>>81713523
Want to print one and sell it to me? I really don’t have the facilities for a 3D printer but it seems all the services (at least that are easy to find) are idiotically overpriced.
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>>81714768
Could be that he's channelling khorne energy, and daemons are warp energy forced into the materium. Personally I always saw it as a world eater librarian trying to stop Angron becoming a daemon (even though the one painted is a night lord).
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>>81713523
Actually, can you take a picture of the underside without a tank? I may just get a recast storm eagle and do some serious saw work. Maybe get the arms printed or see if I can find something similar. It’s probably look like shit though.
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>>81714768
>Why a psyker is summoning a fucking blood letter?
>"By the power of His armies, both of warriors armed with blade and bolter and those armed with stylus and picter unit, the Emperor sought to erase all trace of the Daemon and its power, to bury the legends and fears of Old Night beneath the burdensome weight of His Truth."
"These creatures were a new and unknown curse upon the galaxy, no codex or archive held any mention of them, for the Emperor had seen to their destruction or concealment."
>"In terms of the narrative of the Horus Heresy, this helps to reinforce the idea that Daemons are still a great unknown, undefined and strange to the warriors of the Imperium, as opposed to the more clearly defined and understood menace they represent in later millennia."
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>>81705742
The former. Without spoiling the plot, half of the various Ultramarine characters basically end up in one of two groups, so you don't need to worry about struggling to understand where they all are or what they're up to. And most of the other half you won't need to worry about at all (you'll understand when you listen).
I'd really recommend the audio book, the narrator does a fantastic job, and it's paced in a way that really works as an audiobook.
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>>81714948
Yes, I'm sure that the sculptor studied all the pros and cons and weighted for and against of sculpting a bloodletter. After days of deliberation and fluff consultation he chose a bloodletter.
Or he just did a fucking thing because he thought it looks magical and didn't give a shit about particulars like, how retarded it is for him to produce a fire fart bloodletter.

What do you think?
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>>81715066
Bloodletter is an easily recognizable design to convey both "yup, that's a daemon" and "yup, that's a demon."
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>>81714948
There’s also the whole thing of the thousand sons having deamon familiars. They saw them just as warp entities without the knowledge of how trielt malevolent they are. The entire concept of deamons being a counterpart to sentience was hidden. The few that could access the warp saw them just like they would see any other xenos, ignorant of how the deamons saw them.
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>>81714948
>Daemons are still a great unknown, undefined and strange
Yet sculpted a fucking typical blood letter
And a fucking Khorne daemon heeds the call of a psyker
And there is a fucking bloodthirster dueling Sanguinius
Funny, but not a good excuse, lmao
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>>81715311
Thousand sons’ pets are not actual daemons
Unless you are saying the first supreme grand master of the grey knights is fucking possessed and using a daemon’s name.
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>>81714768
>>81714948
>>81715066
are you retarded? psykers can summon bloodletters. seriously, are you retarded?
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>>81715422
>Unless you are saying the first supreme grand master of the grey knights is fucking possessed and using a daemon’s name.
what are you talking about?
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>>81715353
It's about how people are all going 'WTF?!', the warp shit itself is the same. In 40k it's all researched and classified, and they know how to deal with this shit.
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>>81715475
The first grey knight is a thousand son named himself after his magical pet ianus
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>>81715501
magical pet called anus
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>>81713199
Mayby this mini is called "Perils of the Warp"
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Finished my first little white scar tactical.
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>>81715740
He cute
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>>81715740
He looks cool, but are you sure you want him all white?
I know trim is fucking time consuming, but it does add a lot.
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How pointless are two Xiphon in most games? I have one I'm repainting and got another from a friend as a gift.

They don't seem broken or anything, so I figured I'd ask.
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>>81715740
I'm gonna disagree with the other anon and say that the all-white scheme mixed with red symbols actually looks pretty cool, especially with the weathering, etc. It's very striking.
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>>81716137
They're cool so who cares
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>>81716137
They're fine. If anything Xiphon are a little too costly for what they do. With 2 hullpoints and AV 11 they'll die to anything that manages to land a hit, so gotta jink each time something fires their way. Having two mitigates that a little bit.
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>>81713199
Great for World Bearers, and late Sons of Horus but not really any other legion.
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>>81714894
Hope this helps

>>81713588
Elegoo grey with some black resin mixed in.
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>>81713199
a DG anon used him for an incredible conversion but i can’t find it rn.
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>>81716322
I like the OH SHIT OH FUCK look he has on his face, would fit Thousand Sons pretty well
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>>81714857
Tbh Anon, it's a very complex print of five full plates with a lot of cleaning and error margin. The printer will be occupied for over a week with some plates topping 17h print time. In the end it's a labour of love and strong glue. Being a eurofag, doing one would cost about half a legit FW Steagle, sans shipping.
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>>81716268
people who play
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>>81716486
>you can't use models solely because they look cool
?
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>>81716520
He's probably one of those anons that thinks something is only useful in a game when it has broken OP rules.
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>>81701421
>skullpting
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>>81716520
>Hey anons, are two Xiphons worth it in a list?
>"haha lol they are cool models take them"
You do realize that you're not only unhelpful but a giant faggot (and samefag) as well?
>>81716137
They are not broken anon, that's for sure but two are a serious point investment. They can deal with aircrafts and medium armour + dreadnoughts very reliably and can be used to chip away at termies and other 2+ infantry. Problem is that a) they are expensive b) arrive turn 2+ c) that's two of your FA slots spent. Personally I wouldn't take two but would diverisfy with lightning or storm eagle for multi tasking.
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>>81716824
Personally I don't like Lightnings, they don't have a marine pilot but just some servitor or something.
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>>81715353
Unknown to the Imperium, retard.
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>>81716843
I get it but was looking from a game perspective. Lightnig is highly customizable, that's why I mentioned it. Nevertheless I wish FW did some another astartes fighter with options.
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>>81716843
>doesn't give all his flyers battle servitors

To me it makes more sense than having a marine pilot such vehicles. They're more expendable than large ships (which would also benefit from servitor helpers manning turrets and secondary functions with marines having the command). Ground vehicles are a bit of a different thing, as they're less indirectly contributing to the battle. A plane would just maintain air superiority and do strafing runs on ground targets. A rhino is in the thick of it, so their enhanced combat abilities come more into play, and if disabled, the crew can dismount and engage on foot.
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>>81717113
Not really. Battle servitors are doctrine programmed and will answear X with options Y Z or V when their cogiatator brain calculates what action is optimal. Doctrines are limited by definition btw. Marine pilot brings human factor to the fight and is obviously a better pilot. Also he can analyze in abstract unlike battle servitor and can prioritize and evaluate targets better than machine.
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>>81717224
Marine pilots make sense in 30k, where legions are stand alone armies numbering in their hundreds of thousands.

In 40k where marines are small units of 1k or less, using them as pilots and drivers seems like a massive waste.
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>>81717113
>not having a praetor level commander personally piloting your fragile interceptor ready to eject and engage on foot when shot down
do you even laugh when you kill, bro?
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>>81717272
They use battle servitors in 40k (pre 7th lore, don't care what's after) for tonks and flyers if the area they operate is not a high intensity battle. In this case they use astartes pilots/drivers becasue they are just better.
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>>81717311
>ready to eject
What if he's hit less conviniently and can't eject?
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>>81717224
>A Flyer may replace their human crew with hard-wired servitor control and dedicated cogitator targeting arrays, designed to identify and target weak spots on enemy vehicles. This upgrade gives the Flyer the Tank Hunters special rule.

Seems like an improvement to me.
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>>81717311
Better yet, stick two praetor-grade aces in starfighters. Every space ace needs a buddy.
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>>81717334
>Translation: "We don't want to put non-Marines into our Marine armies, so pretend they exist, if you want to, but on the board it's all Marines all the time."
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>>81717334
>>81717272
the lore from the Xiphon is that it's capable of turns that would knock out a human pilot with excessive g-force, and while "why not drones" is kind of answered by "men of iron tabbouleh", the Hunter tank fires missiles loaded with servitor skulls that explicitly use their dim consciousness to commit honourable seppuku, so if you imagine a Xiphon being capable of more insane maneuvres than a tracking missile loaded with a human skull and brain, then that's why they use marine pilots allegedly

also not 100% that Battle Servitors replaces the marine pilots (guess it's kind of up to you to model it) so much as it gives the marine pilots a backup that's capable of taking over when he does something so insane that it even knocks him out

it's not real clear what a servitor can go through and retain consciousness, but with the brain implants presumably a lot
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>>81717374
>their human crew
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>>81716361
That's a really good print of a great STL, some anons are jelly because they don't have a printer, haven't seen actual good prints, or are luddites.
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>>81717419
Before they were added to Marine arsenal, they used cybered up humans to pilot them who could handle the forces. If you need more cognitive pilot, just cyber up some legion serf. They can have the sapient decision making while benefiting from enhanced durability and enhanced cognitive abilities.
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>>81716468
>>81714857
the transport version seems like the sort of thing it would be easier to kitbash from a Stormraven, effectively all you'd be doing is extending the engines and superstructure, mostly plasticard and greebling, maybe some wire wrapped around tubes or dowel for those heat sinks over the turbines

also on the print there's no way those front turbines aren't melting anything with less than AV14 ceramite, that's not a good placement: on the Thawk transporter the rear engines are lower (because Thawks are like that anyway) and the front engines are higher (and I'm still not convinced they'd do anything but choke the rear intakes on a climb)

if anything both should be reinventing their base patterns with a trijet design, since neither has a top cannon to interfere with airflow (which they need at least some of the time or why turbines?) or even a Stormbird quad-rear arrangement, but at the very least I'd move the Storm Eagle's fronts up to the roofline - then they're up where they're not going to incinerate the tanks on a bank or the struts like all the time, and it's in-line with the Thawk transporter's design, which *clearly* works somehow

anyway this is a game about a magical man who gets everything wrong and ruins the galaxy
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>>81717396
>"Khan Jukhalak..."
>"Yes, Khan Soujia?"
>"I have a need...FOR SPEED!!!"
>"KHAGAAAAAN!"
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>>81717477
>same BS as marines
>no negative effects on performance
>tank hunter

If servitor pilots are worse, what excuse do the marines for not being better?
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>>81717501
>They can have the sapient decision making while benefiting from enhanced durability and enhanced cognitive abilities.
Ok, but astartes beat even that. Their thought process and though-action interval is far shorter than that of even augmented human.
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>>81717548
>W1 marines
>W1 techthralls
>"superhuman kek"
begone
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>>81717582
Which is why they use marines to make the best, most powerful cogitators. Oh, wait... Also, did people just completely forgot all the stories where land raiders with their machine spirits kept fighting after the crew was dead, even tricking the enemy. Or survive for years alone, doing power management and maneuvers to get clear before calling home to get picked up?
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>>81717704
Oh wiat...how many examples can you find? 2? 3? They were mentioned because they were exceptional and singular not because they were the norm. Also you're talking about vehicles equiped with Machine Spirit (the true ones not the "machine spirits" of Mechanicum faith) which are rare even by Heresy standards. Not ot mention that it's a murky area because they are close to/partially IA. It's not the same as a battle servitor bro.
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>>81717846
>which are rare even by Heresy standards

Which is why they're an upgrade to every other Marine vehicle. And it's still a brain in a jar, which is suppose to be stupid and only capable of following simple commands.

>It's not the same as a battle servitor bro.

And a battle servitor is not the same as a techmarine's servitor. Point is they can make cybernetic brains capable of cognitive thinking, creativity and decision making.
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>>81717928
Well most marines don't fully trust techmarines, being part of the machine cult and all that. So who do you thing your average joe marine would trust more steering a chapter's vehicle, an honourable battle brother, or some lobotomized failed aspirant or criminal that has been programmed by that weird nerd the techmarine?
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> /x/ - WB
> /k/ - IW
> /lit/ - TS
> /fit/ - EC
> /pol/ - AL or DG
any others?
thread is fucking dead
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This fucking thread

1% Heresy Talk
2% Models
97% Bitching at stupid shit

(Fucking love it though )
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>>81717928
>Point is they can make cybernetic brains capable of cognitive thinking, creativity and decision making
Sure you can, but they are still inferior in many combat related circumstances. Like picking a coorect target from a squadron. And by correct I mean many different variables that can change in a few seconds. Also as mentioned before, target priority - servitor will have an assigned role with no big particulars (that's how combat sevitors work anyway) and they will operate within that role (such as "air superiority: sector XP 45, Priority: fighter crafts" but will not make other decisions themselves. Marines/humans can.
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>>81718050
Welcome to 4Chan
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>>81717355
he won’t, i was there. precognition
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>>81718035
> /v/ - IH
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>>81718029
>marines don't trust mechanicum
>are fine using everything made by them
>only trust marines to operate their vehicles
>are fine with non-marines piloting and crewing their ships and super-heavies

Legion armies even have more access to flyers without marine pilots than ones with.
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>>81718081
>not WE due to rage
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>>81718035
> /fa/ - BA
>/adv/ - SAL
>/biz/ - UM
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>>81718035
>/lgbt/ - BA
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>>81718035
>/mlp/ - WS
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>>81718035
>/trash/ - SW
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>>81718203
kek
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>>81718170
/lgbt/ is nothing but trannies posting about being beaten and raped. it’s definitely EC
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>>81716907
Then tell why they can sculpt fucking undivided brutes but must have a blood letter.
Oh wait I just realize the model came out before daemon of ruinstorm is a thing. So the lore doesn’t even apply to the model, retard
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>>81718216
>trannies posting about being beaten and raped
So it fits Sanguinius' emo moods perfectly.
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>>81718035
/o/ - White scars
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>>81718035
> /qst/ - DA
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>>81718216
sounds like BA
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>>81718113
If marines trusted the Mechanicum so much, why do they need techmarines in the first place? If they are such bros why not just have tech priests on hand to fix your shit.
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>>81718248
>lore only exists once the work is published
>all models sculpted before the publication are therefore beholden to the old lore
>the sculptors could not have been aware of any future changes or reasoning as to why a completely different ruleset is even necessary
>Ruinstorm rules is the only place where Imperium's lack of knowledge is stated
>Magnus, for example, was fully aware of the malignant powers he was dealing with when doing his sorceries
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Word bearers are literally a lawfully good faction, and no one can convince me otherwise.
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>>81718551
Except for their whole going against the emperor's laws, and the whole daemons thing...
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>>81718029
>doesn't know techmarines are the main pilots for a chapter's vehicles (which is why vehicle crews are painted red and come with corgs on them)

I guess they trust their techmarines enough to have their back in battle.
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>>81718575
the emperor is lawfully evil
you wouldnt say a paladin is evil for slaying the undead lich either
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>>81718489
>>Magnus, for example, was fully aware of the malignant powers he was dealing with when doing his sorceries
Ironically he does know, and that’s why he denied the sixth cult of Prospero which focused on summoning daemon, lorelet
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>>81718609
Of course, a techmarine is still more dependable than some human-turned-cogitator that's gonna hit the brakes because it mistakes a full moon for a red traffic light.
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>>81718551
Human torture and sacrifice for personal gain a power sounds like lawful good to you? I hope you're on a list somewhere.

>>81718620
Actually, if there was insufficient proof of the Lich having commited legit crimes provided by him it would make said paladin a criminal and a murderer, who should face charges and punishment.
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>>81718620
Him being evil is irrelevant to the shitty alignment system. If you are in the kingdom of an evil king you still have to follow his laws to be Lawful. They could be evil laws but they are the law. If the WB were the political structure of the imperium as a whole then yes they would be lawful. But according to D&D style alignments they aren't, outside of their own perspective. But you have to look at the perspective as a whole. The emperor rules the fledgling imperium, his law dictates what would be lawful.
Also summoning daemons is never a 'good' action in any alignment. If you want to say Neverborne are just the embodiment of emotion, then you would have to look at their actions to determine if they are good or evil.
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>>81718656
So why no Marine Crew option for flyers then?
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>>81718638
So he knowingly unleashed the daemons upon Terra and consorted with the dark gods, yet did nothing wrong?
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>>81718722
I dunno, because FW is run by a bunch of cucks?

There's also no option for Sanguinary Guard, despite how often those show up in the story.
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>>81718691
>Human torture and sacrifice for personal gain a power sounds like lawful good to you?
thats exactly what the emperor does
>Lich having commited legit crimes
what if the Lich sent his minions to raze the paladins village?
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>>81718751
>thats exactly what the emperor does
So you admit that it is evil. The Word Bearers do it too, so by your own standards the Word Bearers are evil

>what if the Lich sent his minions to raze the paladins village?
Well, if the paladin would provide proof that would make it certain the lich was behind it, and had it verified by others, there would be no problem.
But killing somebody merely because of an implied thread is still a crime. Maybe those minions are merely doing a bonding exercise
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>>81718751
If the paladin's village was summoning daemons and practicing dark magic/worshiping dark gods, then yeah. That's a lawful thing to do.
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>>81718745
>jUsT uSe CoMmAnD sQuAd RuLeS
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>>81718874
where are the iron buttock jetbikes FW?! WHERE?!!!!
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>>81718035
How is DG the chud army?
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>>81719036
Unhealthy levels of hypocrisy.
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>>81719036
>chud
Good bait
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>>81718745
high chance that we see them in one of these pdf updates.
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>>81719094
yeah, as the case with huscarl and atramentar
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>>81719036
Zyklon B
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>>81718035
Iron Warriors also have a bit of /tg/ in them, seeing as they play holographic tabletop war games to prep for the Siege of Terra.
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>>81718551
Calth was self defense
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How did you pick a legion?
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>>81719259
I can't.
Have been thinking about starting one for months and I just cant decide.
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>>81718691
>personal gain and power
That's TS. Those angry nerds have no piety and try to abuse the divine, and it bites them in the ass all the time.
>muh local lord
>muh roman law
Only works on secular dealings. Make way, matters of faith coming through.
In other words, haha crozius goes bonk.
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>>81718575
What part of "smite infidels" do you not get?
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>>81718551
>sergeant with fist
Is there any reason to take one in a ranged squad? Other than rule of cool, of course. In my experience, trying to charge vehicles is a waste of the rest of the unit, and he alone can't do much against a melee unit, so it's bad CQ defence too.
>inb4 waacfag
No, as a matter of fact I model all of mine with some choppy stuff because it looks nice. Genuinely asking if there's something to it.
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>>81719233
It was an act of divine retribution. Think prophet Elias and all the ways he went to town on pagans, that's the thing with Calth and Shadow Crusade. Except this time it's the fedora toppers on the receiving end instead of heathens.
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>>81718551
good luck with your Loyalist Word Bearers anon, that's a level of faggotry that makes Loyalist Iron Warriors look nuanced
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>>81718722
fliers were a mistake
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>>81718551
The Word Bearers would be based if it weren't for the fact that that the whole legion are mewling bitches that act like faggots and then say they're "the most human and down to earth".
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>>81719259
I like lots of dudes, because that is fluffy and FUN. Melee is also added FUN.
What legion actually works well with lots of dudes, and melee?
World Eater horde baby.
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'Ere we go, 'ere we go, 'ere we go:
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>>81715422
Dtoaa, phael to Ron’s familiar is described in a way that implies it’s likely a screamer, Utipa, ahriman’s, Matches closely to the description of a blue horror, I don’t remember the name but Kalophis’s is described exactly like a brimstone horror. All of the descriptions match closely to actual lesser demons, they even show “gleeful spite” at the suffering and death of humans.
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>>81716361
Super helpful actually! Thanks!
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>>81716468
Hmm, yea, that’s a little far for shipping lol. I’m looking for local quotes but desu I’m down to pay 100-150 bucks. I fucking love the model, like, a lot. I’ve always loved logistics vehicles and I’m disappointed I missed out on the thunderhawk transporter.
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>>81717538
If I can ever get one I was going to mount the extra engines either on top, in-line with the wings and up wing area, or just not use them at all. Trijet is a neat idea though to keep the aesthetic inline with the thunderhawk.
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>>81718737
He was aware on the presence of malevolent beings in the warp, not necessarily aware of how (to use BL’s favourite word) anathema to us they are. He also didn’t know that the emperor was working on building an unshielded conduit into the web way like an idiot, everything Magnus did wrong was purely due to concealment and deception by the emperor. Poor transparency in management and a deficient safety culture will always be the ruin of humanity. Magnus is no more at fault than the control room operators at three mile island. They did what they could with the best they had.
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>>81719596
It gives you an option to maybe ID something in a challenge which may scare someone off from issuing a challenge or accepting none which gives you a minor advantage of kicking their sgt out of combat.



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