Thread #294 - Pointless Reprints (Unless you play Protect Clans) EditionDeck Log: https://decklog-en.bushiroad.com/Beginner guide, decklists and other info: https://pastebin.com/QxKQRhrQVanguard ZERO Important Links and Info:https://pastebin.com/3nvDD2WcUp to date fanmade PC online games, 3DS/Switch emulation and Mobile games:https://pastebin.com/7Fj8VqA2Cardfight and Buddyfight matchmaking server:https://discord.gg/6xVFD4rWeiss/Schwarz Resources:https://pastebin.com/sk2iSjW1Cardfight!! Vanguard overDress Season 2 Episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3InxbC0Ug6ARelease Schedule (Vanguard):- D-LTD01 Ahoy! Lyrical Monasterio!: 10/15- D-LBT01 Lyrical Melody: 10/22- D-VS01 V Clan Collection Vol. 1: 11/19- D-VS02 V Clan Collection Vol. 2: 11/19- D-BT03 Advance of Intertwined Stars: 12/10- D-SD06 Mirei Minae: 12/17Release Schedule (Weiss):- SAO -Alicization- Vol.2 BP: 11/5- The Quintessential Quintuplets Quintessential Set and BP: 11/19- Date A Bullet Surprise Set and EB: 12/3- RWBY Supply Set, TD+, and BP: 12/17Release Schedule (Rebirth for You JP):- SSSS.DYNAZENON: 10/22 (BP)- Azur Lane Vol. 2: 12/03- Remake Our Life: 12/17- D4DJ Vol. 2: 1/28- Genshin Impact: TBA- Blue Archive: TBA- STARDOM: TBAVanguard ZERO News:- VG ZERO Winter Circuit 2021 begins from October 2021 to March 2022- New Gacha: Blazing Perdition (EN) / Generation Stride (JP)- EN Rank Fight “Usurper of Courage” (SP Photon) until 10/15 23:59 PDT- Super Decks now availablePrevious Thread: >>81591692TQ: Which clans actual got away with useful reprints for the upcoming Clan Collections besides Gold Paladin and possibly Nubatama?
Post a link to the new thread in the old one next time.
Which side are you on
>>81659532do one for yuyu
Please for the love of god, let Bavsargra be good.
>>81659961Given that we already know what she does, we'll have to see if her new weapons and any additional support cards in D-BT04 are good enough to make her not Magnolia-tier
>>81659992>We made nations so everything will get support in a booster and you don't have to wait your turn!>make it so that individual decks have to wait their turn for good support instead, since generic cards are 95% assWhy is bushiroad like this?
Why so serious
>actually win a game with Magnoliawhat the fuck
Yo, how do you organise your extra deck? I put mine in GB order
Is ethics blau the highest skill cap deck in Zero history, or will victorchad surpass it?
>>81662995Ethics Blau was just an another combo deck like Spikes. The hardest deck to play in Zero has always been Tsukuyomi.
>>81662995Bermuda feels like the highest skill cap deck, people either destroy you with crazy combos or the player missplays like a motherfucker and fucking dies.
>>81662995>If I get my pieces I win but if I don't I lose and there's really nothing either player can do about it.dek>SkillfulI like Blaus but knowing when to save or commit pieces doesn't take much skill.
How many of the team friend fights do you guys got? I'm pretty sure that my missions haven't been going up since yesterday, I'm stuck on 16.
>>81661569Most to least likely to use.
>>81665373I think something isn't clear about them because its the same for me. The Stoicheia one was cleared automatically, but the others stopped.
Anyone else watching the actual card game anime this season?
>>81666291First episode was so much better than Overdress it isn't even funnyFor one, it has an actual plot
>could be playing LM right now if the release didn't get delayedI fucking hate corona world
>>81666291Yeah, nice 1st episode, I won't play it though, buster cards are a terrible mechanic. >>81666318Yeah, it did a good job at explaining how to play the game.
>>81666639>buster cards are a terrible mechanic.It's kind of funny. Yuhodo looked at the overtrigger and decided "HMM HOW CAN WE MAKE THIS EVEN CRAZIER?". That being said I find it kind of exciting you're forced to run bombs in your deck that can kill you at the expense of better cards. Guess it fits with the whole gambling motif.
>>81666291I liked it. Sakura is super cute. Somehow in one episode I found her more charming than Megumi or Tomari.
>>81666291Only complaint i have is the MC's hoodie, i find it cringe. Besides that, i liked it a lot, it has potential
>>81668097>I found her more charming than Megumi or Tomari.Not that much of an accomplishment, those two suck, easily the worst "heroines" in Vanguard, specially Megumi.
>>81668733>MC's hoodie, i find it cringe.The commitment to being cringe makes it endearing.
>>81665707The Stoichea mission is for the whole team while friend fights use the same counter as your regular cheevo missions (do 10 friend fights to get a gacha ticket etc)>>81662995I don’t get what Ethics Blau has over Mond Blau. >>81664225Pretty much, and I make even dumber misplays like a true GP player and end up losing to the noob
>>81669026>I don’t get what Ethics Blau has over Mond Blau.Ethics Buster's Break Ride skill doesn't cost CB1 at the expense of only restanding your front row rear-guards.
When will Bushiroad tell Fujima to start drawing sexier older women? He focuses too much on lolis or young school girls for Vanguard.
>>81669071What’s the point though? Blaus are a burst deck. And with Bermudas and Kagero fishing PGs + Legions sending back triggers in general you need heavy columns more than ever.
>Try to play anything but Bermuda>Job >Play Bermuda>WinSuch is the pain of not having good decks finished besides fishes.
>>81666291The episode was entertaining enough. I don't really like the game itself very much though.
>>81669767Same here, it's like they saw Vanguard and they thought it didn't have enough RNG.
I believe in Overlord supremacy. Waiting for The End in D era.
love these niggas like you wouldn't believe
>>81670456By the way, what even is the Persona Ride symbol supposed to represent?
LJ kinda sucks right now, even with Garnet and all that the clan is still pretty weak, Bermuda destroys it, GP have the fridge, SP kills their shit before you can lock them and Kagero don't call shit until their big Legion turn, it's a shame really.
>>81671823Also the unlockers are a thing that is an easy flex slot till G0 get here in the more meme decks
>>81671865Yeah, clans with Unlockers like Narukami and Genesis can give you some unexpected Ls and everyone and their mother knows how to play around Lock these days so I wouldn't recommend bringing LJ to rank.
>Bruce stealing Bastion's moveJust noticed this kino
Anyone with a newer phone running the game smoothly at all times? I've got a Pixel 3a and Zero's the only game I have that will stop dead and crawl along for what feels like almost a minute or more for no apparent reason.
Beloved Wife, Eliza (RR)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 5000 SLD / BoostCONT (RC): During your turn, if your Vanguard with "Faust VII" in its card name performed OverSoul, this unit gets +10000 PWR / +1 Critical.AUTO (RC): At the end of the battle this unit attacked, COST[CB1, and retire 3 Skeleton Army tokens] STAND this unit.
Necromancy (R)Grade 1 / Set Order/Faust VIIIPlay this card if you have an unit with "Faust VIII" in its card name!AUTO: When this card is placed in your Order Zone, look at two cards from the top of your deck, choose up to one card with "Eliza" in its card name from among them, reveal it and add it to your hand, and discard the rest.ACT (Order Zone): If you have a Vanguard with "Faust VIII" in its card name, COST[Bind three cards from your drop] call a number of Skeleton Army tokens up to the number of "Necromancy" in your Order Zone to (RC).
>>81672892I upgraded to a S9 after playing Zero on a potato phone and I never have lag or crashing problems with it anymore.
>>81673407How potato was it by comparison?
>>81673478Potato enough that it took 3-4 minutes enter the home screen from app startup, the Live2D would make it lag, opening enough packs would crash it and after the Legion update playing a few games would crash it also. And you'd have to wait for it to cool down after the crashes because those would cause the phone to freeze and heat up.
I must bump
>>81670598Quit talking like a nigger
>>81672892My S7 overheats if I play too many matches in a row.
How many triggers do you run for Booster Draft or Sneak preview?
>>81679140>Actually playing Vanguard sneak previewGiven that you only get 4 packs (so 28 cards in total), don't you basically have to use whatever you open?
>>81666639>>81667447>>81670120You guys are overstimating the average variance of burst triggers which is actually less than the provided by heals and crits in vanguard when you scale it to 10 life vs 6 life. The fact that the damage is put at the start of the fight means that at least for now there is no deck capable of fucking with it and both players have equal chances of checking burst triggers at any time, meaning that way more often than not (84% of the time to be precise) the difference of effective life (amount of burst triggers in player's A life minus amount in player's B life) between players will amount to 2 or less, with the probability of the difference in effective life going to 5 or above being less than 1%. A difference of just 2 life out of 10 is just barely above the influence of A SINGLE critical trigger in vanguard which substracts 1 damage from the pool of 6. Add to that the fact that burst triggers don't affect the power numbers which adds a whole other level of random influence in vanguard.Here's some graphs i made using data obtained by hypergeometric distribution, if anyone cares enough i can share the excel somewhere
>>81684223Based. I’m going to save these charts. Thanks statanon.
>>81684223Wait. So you’re saying that running 12 bombs in your deck that serve no purpose other than to kill you if they’re in your life is only slightly more RNG than 1 crit trigger? So in that case does Build Divide have less RNG than a VG deck that runs 8 crits or something?
>>81684223It's not about the probability, it's about the impact. Same reason why people hate overtriggers. You can play around defensive heals, you can play around aggressive crits, you can't play around defensive overtriggers ending your entire turn. Yeah, it happens once every 100 games, but you feel like throwing all you cards into the bin when it does. That mechanic has the same exact problem.Randomness is not inherently a problem, randomness is what differentiates card games from regular strategy games. The randomness is there so that games play out differently each time. It's not there to give players random sacky wins.You could make a card game where at the start of each match, before any cards are played, both players roll a 1/100000000000 sided die and if one of them rolls a 7 they instantly win. That is almost never going to actually happen, but it is not a good mechanic.
>>81684223>>81684670I brainfarted and wrote 1/100000000000 instead of 100000000000, but you got what I meant
>>81684223I don't care about the chances, the fact that you can lose by a burst trigger if it's your last life is a shit mechanic.
>>81684670You can play around it to an extent by simply not letting your opponent damage you. There are cards that destroy units, stop attacks and every unit can block so it’s not like you always have to take damage. And as you get more information from your deck you get a better idea of how many Bursts are possibly in your life and can make informed decisions. It’s not much different from counting triggers and figuring out if you should 1 to pass or 2 to pass.
So build divide has Brandt critical triggers now?
>>81685821It sounds more like Brandt heal triggers instead.
>>81686631When you check them you take 1 more damage.
New Ending featuring best boyhttps://youtu.be/4wuLhmdXpWk
>>81686810But that sounds exactly like how Brandt interacts with heal triggers?
Why does overdress have to be so gay?
>>81687163Yeah that's how Burst triggers work in BD.
>>81687178>Why does Vanguard have to be so gay?Fix'd for you.
Is anyone from the team available right now? Can we do like 10 fights where I just stay on G0 so we can finish these missions as soon as possible
Yuyu's painted fingernails.They don't miss a single detail, do they?
>>81687931Yuyu could go into espionage if he wanted to with his attention to detail
>>81687931Yuyu is right on track for overtaking Aichi as Vanguard's #1 Waifu
Holy fuck this thread is slow.
>Need to have 50 fights with team members It's all so tiresome.
>>81687924I'd be willing to do that now.
>>81688336>are you winning son?
>>81688342This is what happens when we are stuck in Collab Hell in JP while LM in English got delayed
>>81688402Room is 753,227,275
Even the NPC's have more appeal than Megumi ever will
Thanks for the fights man, but I gotta go. We can continue tomorrow if you want. I'm still missing 15
Insanity, Faust VIII (R)Grade 2 / 10000 PWR / 5000 SLD / InterceptAUTO: When this unit is placed on (VC) by riding upon "Unusual Signs, Faust VIII", discard five cards from the top of your deck, and add all "Necromancy" from your drop to your hand.CONT (RC): During your turn, this unit gets +2000 PWR.>>81688461I wonder if there will ever be a worse girl than Megumi or it is something that will never be topped
Unusual Signs, Faust VIII (C)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 5000 SLD / BoostAUTO: When this unit is placed on (VC) by riding upon "Faust VIII", discard five cards from the top of your deck, and choose up to one card with "Eliza" in its card name from your drop, and add it to your hand.
The V collection shit was so terrible, but I still really enjoy V Murakumo so I hope they don't make the reverse stuff awful as well
>>81684666What ultimately matters is how much of a difference it makes between you and your opponent's effective life meter. The great majority of the time what will happen is that you have 3 burst triggers and your opp had 2, or you had 2 and your opp had 4, and so on, making the effective gap due to randomness not that big>>81684670>Yeah, it happens once every 100 games, but you feel like throwing all you cards into the bin when it does. That mechanic has the same exact problem.Brainlet take. Overtriggers don't happen one in every 100 games, they happen way more often, they have more than 13% chance of being checked in damage check and a similar number of being checked in the drive depending how long the game drags on. >You could make a card game where at the start of each match, before any cards are played, both players roll a 1/100000000000 sided die and if one of them rolls a 7 they instantly win. That is almost never going to actually happen, but it is not a good mechanic.If the mechanic existed solely for that then yeah it would be dumb because it exists for the sole reason of an scenario that's incredibly unlikely to happen. Burst trigger on the other hand is a mechanic that exists so that the overwhelming majority of time introduces a healthy amount of randomness and it happens that in incredibly unlikely scenarios it could lead to autowins.>It's not about the probability, it's about the impact.You also have an incredibly low chance of bricking in vanguard due to drawing only triggers, does that mean that random drawing is a failed mechanic too because it can have too much of an impact on very specific scenarios?>>81684744Also brainlet take, not different that being critted at 4 or double critted at 3
>>81690464He is talking about a defensive overtrigger ending your turn, not overtriggers being checked in general, brainlet.
>>81690464Then why the fuck not simply make the base health in the game 7 or 8 instead? What is the point of the mechanic other than random sacky losses?
>>81690666That's still way more than "1 in 100 games" nigger. let's count out the first 2 damages since those usually happen in the early game. The 4 other damage checks still give you a 8.69% chance of checking an overtrigger,and the chance gets bigger the longer the match goes on>>81690691Because it still adds a certain layer of suspense, calculation and speculation by the end game
>>81690728That's not how it works, retard. It is way more complex than that. The overtrigger has to be damage checked in turn where multiple damage would've been dealt, it has to be one of the first damage checks in the turn and it has to happen through all of the soul charging and draw skills. If it is damage checked as one of the damage checks from one of the last attacks in the turn, it doesn't matter. If it is damage checked when you are not actually pushing for a win, it won't flip the game around. If you actually played the game instead of applying high school math blindly that overtriggers stealing games doesn't happen 1 every 11 games games. It is when you persona ride your Nirvana and prepare your Erger play with the opponent at 4 damage then watch them no guard your Trickstar swing and get an OT. It is when you are in your second final rush turn and the opponent should be all but dead then your first Marjorie attack hits and they get an OT. It is not when your opponent NGs your Eugene at 1 damage and you check a crit, but they get the OT in the second damage check.
>>81690728I wouldn't have too many problems with burst if it had the rule that it couldn't take your last life, I'm sure that shit is gonna make so many people angry when they actually play the game, just like defensive OT.
And apparently Monthly Bushiroad spoiled some Grade 2 RRs from the Shaman King Title Booster (They all have the standard Grade 2 statline of 10k power and 5k shield w/ Intercept and aren't really specific to any Ride Line except Ryuu in a roundabout way)To Land of Eternity, Tao RenAUTO (RC): When this unit attacks without boost, COST[CB1] this unit gets +10000 PWR until end of battle.AUTO (RC): When this unit's attack hits a Grade 3 or higher Vanguard, your opponent chooses a card from their hand and discard it.I Want to Achieve this Dream, HorohoroACT (RC) 1/Turn: COST[CB1] Choose two of your opponent's rear-guards in the same column as this unit, they do not STAND during your opponent's next Stand Phase.CONT (RC): When this unit attacks a Grade 3 or higher unit, this unit gets +5000 PWR during the battle.A Kind Man, Wooden Sword RyuuCONT (GC): If your opponent's Vanguard is Grade 3 or higher, and you do not have a Vanguard with "Wooden Sword Ryuu" in its card name, this unit gets +10000 SLD.http://2critical.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-11102.html
>>81690893>If you actually played the game instead of applying high school math blindly that overtriggers stealing games doesn't happen 1 every 11 gamesI do nigger, and saying it happens "1 in 100 games" is just plain retarded, way less people would be complaining if it were that unlikely. Yeah there are more variables than that but you also gotta take in account the ones that actually favor its appereance, like the fact a lot of decks do some selective deck thinning that actually makes it more likely to appear or that effective heal triggers give you more chances to proc one. Plus even if you're not pushing for game that specific turn they can totally turn around the game cause you still have to look forward to dealing more damage in your succesive turns >and it has to happen through all of the soul charging and draw skills.Non-selective deck thinning has a net zero effect on probability because it's just as likely to help your chances of checking a specific card as it is to botch them.
What did she mean by this?
>>81691086She means he has no self respect which will let people walk over him like a doormat.
Preemptive stream discussion
>>81691529But the episode had him bother Tohya until he was accepted and proactively got other Blackout members to help.
>>81691582I just want them to reveal secondary forms for the other D Bosses
Decklists used by Tohya and Yuyu in episode 14
Illustrations for support cards in D-BT04
>>81693307>>81693326Canon decklists are very cute, but unless they come up in characterization it's all very pointless
Next ZERO JP ranked reward
Even when I try to play around this bullshit I still get fucked. Cleared my front row and drew 6 cards but still all 4 PGs in the deck. Fuck this
Reenactment of the Tohya vs Yuyu fighthttps://youtu.be/U_4-39QzyNM?t=1233
>>81693458>new meteor art>the deck will now be able to run at least 20 ordersOne of these had better do autodamage, any more space rocks and the deck won't have room for any units but the ride line
>>81694439The deck already doesn't run 16 meteors, you are not going to run 20, you will cut some of the old ones for the new ones if they are worth playing
>>81693307>>81693326>Still playing 4 copies of the Grade 1 and 2 Ride LideSHIGGY DIGGY
>>81693307>>81693326Well not like the anime cares about the game enough to optimize deck lists.
Imagine still giving bushiroad money when they've proven time and time again they can't design their game for shit Also the game is fucking dead. Over 10 years and it still remains a super niche cringefest weeaboo game that nobody wants to play in most game stores. They still can't even do a simultaneous release for their products in both JP and EN. All the new cards are already stale as fuck by the time their EN version gets released a month after JP. Durr hurr bushiroad is a small indie company they can't release their products in multiple languages at the same time, pls be nice to them.
>>81696258>They still can't even do a simultaneous release for their products in both JP and EN.Almost nobody does it, YGOfags have to wait 1/4 for major booster sets.
>>81695497The decklists we saw in previous seasons were not really any better.
>>81686631I’m retarded. That’s what I meant.
How many of this card you think will be needed for Zorga?
Remember in Asia Circuit when the opposing teams whipped out their boss cards and this played?https://youtu.be/NTimcdLHgIQ
>>816982614 absolutely.4 dogs, 4 Hendrina, 4 Headhunter, ride line and 3 persona rides seems to be the standard unit lineup most people go for. Then you can add a couple Fleet Swallowers and/or Caryophyllus if you want to.
>>81698311>Remember in Asia CircuitNot really.
>>81698333Interesting. what about the cluster fuck of order cards he has?
>>81698376I am not entirely sure about the order ratios myself, you can try to run many copies of a few orders so that the dog more often searches you an order, or you can run a few copies of many different ones so that the dog can allow you to toolbox. I feel like the former is better, running 3-4 Grief and Condensation so that call down the dog and get another copy of one of them to your hand if you don't have an order in hand (what is something that used to happen quite often in the deck), then a couple copies of other less frequently useful orders like Nectar to end the game and Regurgitation.If you have access to 2 dogs you can keep bouncing one another to ensure that you can always dump or search an order every turn for a soul blast (reason why you can consider playing Caryophyllus).
Guess I didn't ritualpost yet.One day.
It seems like we're always going to have some lazy shits in the team for the tower event.
>>81700306Luna should kick everyone who got under 50k.
>>81700306>>81701363Yeah, I was actually going to ask up to what amount of points were "acceptable". Guess I'll kick out everyone under Gota. A huge shame we ended up in 24th since we were actually in the top 10 for a while
>>81700306Thunderhog a SHIT!
G Novas got nerfed so hard in Zero for no apparent reason
>>81703390>for no apparent reason
>>81703403That deck is not even playable anymore and has no relation to Victor
>>81703390>for no apparent reasonNovas in early G were stupid though.
>>81703416Every single rear that gets power when stood will probably be 1/turn moving foward because of that tho
>>81703439I am not just talking about Sazanda. Both Victor skills are now on hit instead of on attack and they give 3k instead of 5k
Hosting a team friend fight in Zero
Anyone up for 15 matches in a row?
>>81687931>>81688336I just wish they would go full force with the crossdressing and stop playing it safe. The one thing overdress is lacking is something extreme that'll get people and it's staring them right in the face. If Yuyu doesn't go trans or at the very least starts casually wearing girls clothes by the end I'm going to be very mad
>>81702113Don't kick me please, I'm number 24
>>81704403Ok, in the end the group is for /bushi/ anons, but what the fuck were you doing my dude?
>>81704395Don't post this bullshit with a Tomari image, dumb tranny.
Hey TwOn, how many more fights do you need?
>>81704492Working two jobs and online classes?
>>81704815None, I've already completed the missions for the 50 fights.
>>81704921Oh! Thanks man>>817048882 jobs? That sucks
>>81704954I think it's best to only kick people who don't or barely play the event. Some people only have time to log in once and burn through 50 energy per day, but at least they are doing what they can. The ones that are in the team, but don't do the fucking team activities at all have no reason to be kept in the team. Speaking as someone who was in the top 10 of the team both event runs.
Necromancer, Faust VIII (RR)Grade 2 / 10000 PWR / 5000 SLD / InterceptACT (RC) 1/Turn: COST[CB1] Choose a card with "Eliza" in its card name from your drop, and call it to the a (RC) in the same column as this unit.AUTO (RC): When this unit attacks, COST[Discard two cards from the top of your deck] this unit gets +2000 PWR until end of battle.
Calcium Giant (R)Grade 3 / 13000 PWR / Twin Drive!!Persona RideCONT: You may not normal call this card to (RC)CONT (RC): This unit gets +5000 PWR for each "Necromancy" in your Order Zone.AUTO (RC): At the end of your turn, retire this unit.I'm not particularly sure how you'd superior call this from your drop zone unless the Grade 3 Faust VIII actually lets you revive anything you want from your drop.
>>81693458>kittybatI love it.
>>81694049So Aisha next right?
>>81708824It has to be
>>81708824And then Thavas for sure.
>>81709714Next week because the boss from the Trial Deck (comes out this Friday) is apparently trash compared to almost everyone else
Today is Kourin's birthday. Say something nice to her!
>>81703464They’re still mindbroken by Asura/Mond. But the on-hit is total BS. These aren’t Blaus
>>81712515>ApparentlyShe IS trash, only surpassed by Willista, who has a game plan revolving around 2 orders, one of which being a single fucking 5k boost to a unit. In 2021. Willista should have never been printed in the first place and all the useless slots she takes up should have been Kairi support, because goddamn does the state of the TD make me sad.
>>81703464>and they give 3k instead of 5kThis is a good thing.
>>81666291Even Dr. Menjo is playing it now.
>>81715509>Bushi losing all the BF people outside of Yuga's VA to Build Divide>about to lose all the fans of Aniplex collabs who play Weiss to Build Divide after MadokaIt's over
wasn't cardfight IF just legion mate but straight and without side characthers?
>>81715509It’s quite hilarious that he has his name attached to the overdress anime as Cardfight writer but they don’t even make good use of him with how terrible all the fights are. No wonder he has free time to go try out other games.
>>81715712IF was almost entirely focused on the side characters, but yeah it took a lot from Legion Mate and improved on everything it did
>>81715608Build Divide is looking more and more like the next big hit, like what Vanguard was in 2011. It’s selling out everywhere and everyone wants to get into it in JP. The anime has had mixed reception mainly being praised by card game anime lovers while being criticized by normalfag watchers who don’t usually watch card game anime and fags who think every card game anime should be like WIXOSS. But I think that will improve now that they got through the tutorial and can go more into the story. Pretty sure OG anime wasn’t a huge hit right off the bat either and it took a few episodes. It has a lot of momentum right now. Now it all depends on how competent Aniplex is to capitalize on the game’s success right now.
>>81715812>Fags who think every card game anime should be like WIXOSSDoes that mean it needs Okada-tier DRAMA AND SUFFERING or something?
>>81715873Yeah. Throw out all the explanations and focus on characters and drama. It did technically work since the anime got multiple seasons and the game is still around 7 years later but I don’t think a card game anime should be ripped to shreds for having enough decency to teach you the damn game. I hate that this mentality is popular right now.
>>81715873Yeah, fuck those guys.>>81715906Indeed, a tutorial episode is always needed if it's the start of a new show alongside introducing the viewer to the world and whatnot.
>>81715906It only worked for WIXOSS because WIXOSS was interesting. If you are going to write some mess like OD S1 then it obviously isn't going to work.
>>81715812Again, I like the show just fine, but so far I hate the game. The cards don't look appealing to me visually and the mechanics are trite.
>>81716784That's fine. I don't really have anything against WIXOSS specifically. My issue is the idea that because WIXOSS was well received and didn't care about its card game now we suddenly apply that idea to all card game anime or something. The first episode of BD wasn't even bad at all. It checked off what it needed to do as a first episode from a story/game perspective but because you spend 15 minutes teaching the game and being a "commercial" it's bad all of a sudden. WIXOSS is the exception not the rule but it feels like it's being treated like the rule.
>>81715608Yeah I was waiting for Demon Slayer announcement in Weiss but if Aniplex is holding it hostage for Build Divide I guess that's where I'll have to go. Plus seeing the game in action reminds me of Duel Masters so I'm hoping for an English announcement soon
>>81717043Shadowverse tried to avoid teaching the rules (despite them being extremely simple) and it was awful for people who didn't play the game. You really can't avoid that if you actually want to give focus to the matches.
>That viewer dropoffThis is why you don't start off a season with anepisode like that one. While it's expected to see a dropoff immediately into the second episode, this is easily the worst out of every Vanguard season. They should have swapped them or jst cut the Megumi episode all together. She is literally an impairment on this show. I don't think I ever hated a Vanguard character as much as her.
>>81717178They didn't even need to rewrite anything, the episode orders could have been easily inverted without affecting anything since they are completely unrelated to each other.
>>81717178Since Bushi is actually listening to fans then I hope they put Megumi on a bus for S3.
>>81717178I'm surprised s2 had that much of a boost considering the s1 finale had like 70k viewers. I guess a new season brings in new eyes but that drop off is not too surprising.
>>81717213>Since Bushi is actually listening to fans then I hope they remove Megumi altogetherFTFY, maybe without her Magnolia will finally not be PBO (?) / Kairi / Willista-tier bad
>>81717175>give focus to the matches.Yes and this is what BD clearly intends to do. It's plot structure is very similar to Duelist Kingdom so far where all the action is literally going to be centered around the battles and encounters with other duelists. So if you want to enjoy the story then of course you'll need to have a general understanding of the game. It should not be at fault for that at all but some people just have the wrong idea about things.
Next episode is looking like Yuyu and Tohya crossdress to talk to Megumi at her school. Enjoy :^)
>the actual plot doesn't start until16 episodes inWhoever is in charge of story structure and pacing needs to be fired
>>81717406If we get Tohya kabedon some girls while asking for information while Yuyu gets ropped in a cosplay club or something like that then I'm gonna be happy.
>>81717175It never made any sense to me because SV was clearly a kid's show airing on a kid's timeslot. Those shows always explain everything and are more commercialized (which is fine). YGO does the same thing, Duel Masters does the same thing, Vanguard used to do that, etc.
Small panel of adult Aichi from latest Turnabout manga chapter. Seems he's eating Donuts talking to someone at an American university presumably. Maybe Ratie will appear in the manga too.
Hosting Zero friend fight daily in team.
>>81718741>overdress is for fujos and gaysMore news at 11
Next week's Weekly Broadcast will feature Asakura Yoh's VA with the reveal of all 8 RRRs (the 4 Ride Lines, Anna, Hao, and whoever else) for the Shaman King Title Booster and the Overtrigger from the Trial Deck. According to the product page each box's box topper will include the set's PG and Overtrigger from the trial deckKorpokkur, Kororo (RR)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 5000 SLD / BoostACT (Drop): If you have a Vanguard with "Horohoro" in its card name, and it has not performed OverSoul during your turn, COST[Bind this card] choose a trigger unit with "Kororo" in its card name in your drop, and call it to (RC).
Dream to walk with her brother, Pirika (C)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 5000 SLD / BoostACT (Back row of the middle column RC): If you have a Vanguard with "Horohoro" in its card name, COST[CB1, and REST this unit] choose a Horohoro Order in your drop, and add it to your hand.
>>81712845she isn't suiko
>>81717178I don't understand your hate boner for Megumi, anon.
>>81723236Very afraid of the Reverse version of this fucker
>>81723549Not that anon but she suffers the most from the writing sucking Danji's cock to the point of having no other character traitsHer episodes aren't fun to watch, she has no interesting dynamics with the rest of the cast, and her big lesson last episode was "get better so Danji lets her suck his cock"
Overtrigger survey. Which babe will you end your opponent's turn with??? I like the color scheme of the demon myself but I think the catgirl looks the best.
>>81726039The twins in my Kairi deck
>>81726039It's a hard choice. Demon goes for Feltyrosa but I don't know if I want the human, angel, or demon again for Clarissa.
>>81727556Just use the demon one for Clarissa due to horns
>>81727570Demon horns aren't dragon horns.
Harri's stage mechanic in V was cool and it's a bummer that it won't get support for a long while and it's ded in premium. I really wish they made V collections more frequently, or made one without 4 reprints.
>>81726039The angel one is beautiful but I'm going with our new queen.
>>81728825Isn't Harri THE PM deck in Premium now? Last I checked people ran V Harri as the main ride too.
>>81728952That was before PM got shot between having to choose between Purple Trap and Peryton.
>Percival still exists>golds can ping themselves with the new G3 heal into additional angel (provided the damage wasn't a G3) to give themselves 2 damage into Spear XI hate gold paladins so much.
>>81729313>golds can ping themselves with the new G3 heal into additional angel (provided the damage wasn't a G3) to give themselves 2 damageThat's every Keter clan
>>81729313Almost a decade later and GP is still a mistake.
>>81729387The difference is GPs can use that damage to just skip turn 2 and 3 and immediately be on turn 4 complete with a stride while the opponent is on turn 1.
>>81712845Our favourite cuckquean
>>81717178What were they thinking? They should have just continued on from G.
>Tomari calling Yuyu a cuckWhy is the dialogue on Overdress so weird
>>81730674>What were they thinking?>We need new bloodAnd it worked, look at all those new girls playing Vanguard.
>>81730674>They should have just continued on from G.Gross.
>>81730979A ton of girls were already playing Vanguard before Overdress
>>81731491And now even more of them are playing it, the anime was written in that way to bait casual fujo that weren't already on Vanguard for whatever reason.
>>81730979I don't understand how anyone would want to play the game after watching season 1.
>>81732185Fujo are gonna fujo.
I just had my mind blown trying Black Wing Kairi for the first time because I noticed that instead of always riding G2 Alestiel, I can instead ride a G2 from hand and not risk losing my black wings state if I already got it from the G1
>>81733043Why not just go run basically nothing but Grade 2s and replace the Grade 2 Alestiel with Grade 2 Kairi instead? (The list from the video is just a reference since the PGs are the only Grade 1 he runs)Ride Line: G3 Alestiel, G2 Kairi, G1 Alestiel, G0 AlestielGrade 3: 3 AlestielGrade 2: 4 Baruel, 4 Emmael, 4 Schedael, 4 Fanael, 3x Cecilia, 3 Treyn (becomes a 7k booster in back row), 1 Vibrant SymphonyGrade 1: 4 PGGrade 0: 7 Critical, 4 Draw, 1 OT, 4 Healhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxqUdZGI8uA
>>81733232>Why not just go run basically nothing but Grade 2sI am doing that.>grade 2 AstesiceShe doesn't do much of anything though. What are you going to bounce? Fanael? Seems like having Alestiel G2 in the ride line as backup if you hit a PG or Kairi is better.
Strike First to Win! Horohoro (R)Grade 2 / 10000 PWR / 5000 SLD / InterceptAUTO (VC): At the end of the battle it attacked when boosted by an unit with "Kororo" in its card name, COST[Put a card from your hand into your Soul] search your deck for up to one Horohoro Order, reveal it and add it to your hand, then shuffle your deck.CONT (RC): During your turn, this unit gets +2000 PWR
Korpokkur's Friend, Horohoro (C)Grade 1 / 8000 PWR / 5000 SLD / BoostAUTO: When this unit is placed on (VC) by riding upon "Horohoro", search your deck for up to one "Korpokkur, Kororo", and call it to (RC) in the back row of the middle column, then shuffle your deck.
>>81730734Before the show ends, one of the characters will suggest pegging Yuyu.
>>81735667So his sister?
The original Vanguard anime is so comfy, bros. Where did we go wrong?
>>81736058Asia Circuit. Vanguard worked best when it was confined to a relatively small amount of characters with relatively localized stakes. Will the world end if Kai fails and Aichi is stuck as a 14 year old edgelord? No, but it will really suck because we care about the character. Will the world end if Aichi fails to defeat Leon possessed by the void? Yes. Side characters get benched to further push the doomsday situations. Misaki became an absolute noncharacter after S1 for example. LJ to me got a pass but only because it took characters we already had and played around with them more, bringing them off the bench if only for an episode or two, such as Miwa finally getting the limelight, or Izaki before the reverse shenanigans started, but it also started the love triangle bullshit.
>>81726039>Twintail>Pink hair>Shortstack>Demon horns>smugLiterally my all my fetishes in one and going get her in SP.
just watched ep 1, yuyu as a girl makes my pee pee feel funny
>>81736058Asia Circuit, it was pretty much S1 all over again with shittier clans all around>GP was made because RP too stronk>The same for Narukami with Kagero>GN fucking sucks>AqF became the bad guy because can't use SP for that again since they're sealed>MIsaki keep jobbing with Tsuku because Bushi didn't want you to keep playing OTTAnd let's not forget how the final part is a copy-paste of S1 with Kai jobbing to the final antagonist after failing to defeat him with his new crossride and then the antagonist uses his own crossride so Aichi can defeat him with his own new unit.>>81736237Yeah, LJ's first half was pretty fun and I liked how on the Reverse arc almost everyone got a moment on the spotlight, hell Aichi was literally half of the season doing school shit off-screen.
>>81736427They wanted you playing OTT, just not the good OTT. At least Coco got some really good play in the ENG format because of the disjoint release order.
It's easy to forget that Morikawa was basically Aichi's first real friend.
>>81736763>tfw no serious scene where Aichi has to confide in Morikawa about his self-doubts, fears, and problems and Morikawa reassures him and tells him how much he's grown and how proud he is to call Aichi his friendFucking blew it.
Is Zero's story mode a poor representation, or was LM really that shitty?
>>81738034A bit of both, yeah. LM has some of the hypest and most memorable scenes in the series, but it's mostly nonsensical and kinda bad.
>>81738034Unironically bothIll never forget that first Thing Saver fight in the anime it was so disappointing for what it actually wound up doing
Next Tower Event
>>81738436I'm actually shocked we aren't getting Bruce first. What a nice surprise. Wonder how GS will rework the prison mechanic for zero. Probably using the bind zone?
>>81729486Problem isn't Golds really it's just Bushiroad. They'll insta-kill stuff like Doriane or Katrina they have a brief period of success but Percival and Spearcross inspite of how much of a fucking menace one is ini two motha fuckin formats? TROOO FRARRRRRRR>>81738436>Giving us D shit with adjusted powers right when we're starting to get Stride???I mean fuck they should've done that earlier so it would actually get used. Or shit, at least wait for the V split.
>>81738436I wanted Bastion next :(
>>81738436Imagine if we actually get top 10 this time.
>>81738034Yes, the Kai Vs Ren fight at the beginning sets the tone of the series in which Ren has Kai dead to rights, then just lets him win because the plot won't move forward if he doesn't. That's when you should know that you're going to watch a lot of jobbing. >>81738497Honestly, I think it's because they're trying to figure out how to make Bruce worse for Zero and he only has 2 abilities, 1, SB5 to restand rearguards and Final Rush. The restand makes DI a major threat again with the chariot engine, Pale moon could run Silver thorns and restand upright lion, Granblue could actually have something to do when it pushes you to 5 and Spikes would just start dabbing. Final rush only would make him a worse Magnolia, which is almost impossible to be worse than Magnolia. So you either get this G3 promo that would become definitive for those sets which they definitely don't want to do because they nerfed every part of Nirvana to make it mediocre or you release a trash card that no one wants, which means most people won't climb the tower. For prison mechanic, you just bind it and call it day. Which would make Nova Grappler unstoppable.
>>81739411>Granblue could actually have something to do when it pushes you to 5Anon? Are you okay?
>>81739281Same, also Tohya skin.
>>81739411Bruce wouldn't do anything outside of DI.STs don't want to lose their soul. Bruce doesn't scale with every superior call like Luquier. Zelma requires a ST vanguard. Even with the nerf, doing 5 attacks is piss easy and you can do it immediately on turn 2/3 without having to wait for final rush.Bruce doesn't work with Dragger because the cards go back to the deck. So there is no reason to run Bruce when you have much better 5-6 attack enablers in Emerald Blaze and Bloody Ogle that also work with Dragger. Spikes also can't afford SB5.Gears can't afford SB5 either.
>>81739456I really wish the OD skins weren't such a massive clusterfuck to get. Why is GS so fucking stingy when it comes to skins? Now the G skins are even worse, since they're whale only.
>>81740003I'm fine with that. They have to make money in some way and it's better if they are jewish with cosmetics than with cards. I play Duel Links as well and that game is utter hell because you have to autistically micromanage your dripfed resources, you have a super easy to hit hard cap on the main in-game currency, there is no actual crafting system and you are almost forced to spend several hundred dollars in paywalled staples. In Zero, I can build several good decks and bad decks I like without spending any money.
>>81740003In most games skins are the things you actually have to pay for, I wish they weren't limited though and I hope we get more G medals for free because I'm gonna be angry if I can't get Ibuki for my Messiah deck.
>>81728977A lot of people still think Harri is really good in premium. I haven't tested it myself, but one guy I know is actually running the old one. Don't know PM that well, but maybe that helps?
>>81739419No, I climb with Granblue repeatedly of course I'm not okay. >>81739553Instead of Zelma, you bring Purple trapezist and maybe Starting Presenter. Silver Thorn's biggest issue is that when it's out of countercharge, you just swing 3 times that's it. Bruce would be a nice cap off because you could swing 5 times and dead. In my head Bruce replaces the Break Ride completely from that deck so he'd sit at 2-3 copies. Yea, but what do you after dragger or before? I'm looking at the grade 3 lineup of Bruce, Band End and the Ogles with a couple of the elephant to soul charge to 5, use the rearguards to go through intercepts, stand with Bruce then use the +5k skill to attack then go to the deck. That's not as good as a bad end dragger turn, but it's not too far off. great to push from 4-6 if your bad end dragger turn got blocked or he never showed up in your hand to begin with. Having something to do when you brick is important to me
>>81740876>replaces the BRMost people don't even play Eva at more than 1 copy because she is not a ST so you can't go aggro with Zelma on turn 3 if you ride her which is one of the best things about ST. The most popular build is 12 Luquiers which is the build I still play myself. In G, it's going to be 4 Heal Guards, 4 Reverse and 4 Venus, with only 1 free slot for a possible Bruce (that is probably better spent in og Luquier).>Silver Thorn's biggest issue is that when it's out of countercharge, you just swing 3 times that's itBy the time all 5 damage is face down the game is always over, either because I killed them or because I ran out of cards completely, which is one of the things ST is bad with. Bruce wouldn't have anything to restand at that point and running him also creates awkward situations where you have to ride him first and your Zelmas are dead.>Instead of Zelma, you bring Purple trapezist and maybe Starting PresenterYou can't call out those cards with Anna and Maricica, and you can't target them with Zelma, and they don't power up Upright Lion. At that point no reason in playing ST, better to build a Bruce focused PM deck with Dreamy Fortress and other PM goodstuff.Spikes already has a backup for Dragger, it's Ogle himself, which is why he is the superior Legion. The play you described costs 7 soul and requires you to play Brakki over Silver Blaze. Soul charging with Elephants requires you to not ride Bruce, since you need to superior call during the BP, unless you are doing Sky Diver plays, and there is no space for multiple Sky Diver, Bruce AND the legion/BR. Spikes also want to run Jelly Beans in pre-G and heal guards in post-G, running into the same issue I mentioned above with Pale Moon. At that point instead of trying to fit Bruce into Legion Spikes, it's better to build a deck entirely around Bruce.All of this is also assuming that Bruce is unchanged which he almost definitely isn't going to be looking at Magnolia and Nirvana in Zero.
>>81739456You don't want the Tohya skin to be released with the tower event, it would have a higher chance of being a hard money purchase that costs twice or triple as much when compared to the Gems-only gacha with Medals to exchange for the skin.
"I have seen enough I'm satisfied"A return for somebody who quit back when gancelot zenith released
>>81742549Are you playing Witches or Regalia?
So is Exspecta just Valiente 2?Seeing builds dropping him down to 2 and even cutting him like this.Seems like the new G1 girl is the actual important Nirvana support from the set and as good as Exspecta is you only have so much CB.
>>81742549>who quit back when gancelot zenith releasedWise choice, that GP meta was aids.
>>81743145At least Valiente has the decency to not shit out all of its originaldress after swinging. 15k and a crit with all the other powerups is great but doing all that for CB just to get pg'd and go neg is not good.
>>81738034ZERO gets rid of most of the fights but Legion Mate is pretty shit. It only gets good when Kai goes back to his S1 roots with Vortex Dragonewt and even then only Kai’s fights are worth watching
>>81743051Scuffed witchesThe Artemis are just a flex ideally I would play 4 of each legion and 1 BR
>>81743145Exspecta is obviously its own build so I don't know why you'd be trying to gleam some info about it from an Erger one besides the obvious "Exspecta isn't being played over Erger"
>>81743381>It only gets good when Kai goes back to his S1 roots with Vortex Dragonewt and even then only Kai’s fights are worth watchingIndeed, everyone not named Naoki jobs after all.
>>8174342790% of the Nirvana builds you see in Twitter from Japanese players are the previous build but with Himena and Exspecta added in. There aren't many new builds going around.
>>81743381Also the final two episodes are very good too. I forgot that the final episode added solid closure to Ultra Rare. I thought they would end up as destitute crack whores or something
This rip still has a lot of flaws so I’ll have to go back to it. And yes I’m shilling my Youtube channelhttps://youtu.be/S9p37PUsRVI
I've waited literally two weeks for my order from 50cards to ship. Fuck, man. Sure, they had a massive sale, but my order is from before any of that, so what's the excuse. How do you even get backed up this fucking far?
>>81739299I doubt it since we lost the person who was 4th in the team rankings and haven't kicked people who didn't do the tower at all like Jet or the guy who hasn't logged in for a month.
>>81745337This is what happens when Luna doesn't cut their heads.
>>81745565I'll do it in a while, I think I'm gonna kick out the bottom 4.
>>81743989Thanks for reminding me that we still haven't got an OST from Asia Circuit to Legion Mate after almost 10 years>>81745868It's officially coming out next week, so someone might have opened up Sneak Peek boxes already.
>>81745891yea people in my area are opening sneak peeks today
Anyone have pictures of the LM sneak mats?
>Only 19 friend badges >Can only get either the RRR ticket or the 10 regular ticketsAh shit, did they seriously only give 19 or did I somehow miss one?
>>81748745There were 20 so unfortunately you missed one.
>>81748745>>81749033I don't believe you missed one, I got 19 also.Unless the first day had the opportunity to get two friend badges with the mission reset, which is bullshit. Can someone prove getting 20 is possible?
>>81749101Can confirm, you had to log in directly after maintenance but before mission reset on the first day to get the 20th badge. They did put a disclaimer in the campaign notice that you wouldn't be able to get enough to exchange for both the 10 packs and the RRR guaranteed pack (they never take into account the post-maintenance pre-reset window)
>>81743522>watch Misaki get rekt again>think she'll redeem herself next fight>LOL
How did you do /bushi/?
>Great Nature was unironically an evil clan in Asia CircuitCursed season
>>81750580They're a group of scientist that practice science without restraint or morals and actively refuse to help/better the world around them to the point where Leopald was the only one who tried to fight against Link Joker before being reversed. GN are totally a villain clan for most of Vanguard.
>>81750668That’s just neutralfaggotry. Only Link Joker and Apostle/Gyze/Void controlled SP/AqF are actually evil.
>>81751027Didn't say Evil, said Villains. They are not actively working to destroy the world, they just refuse to do anything to help unless it benefits their own goals. Also if you ever have to work on a PHD, you'll find I'm super right about academia in general.
>>81749451They always do this shit, it even happens with tournament mode. No idea why they don't just start all events on the daily reset.
>>81748745>>81749101>>81751605Just happened to be online right before the first day's reset and got the extra daily mission badge. It's honestly dumb that gs doesn't give out 20 during the actual timeframe.
>>81751173That doesn’t mean anything. All the Cray clans are villainous except for Neo Nectar, Bermuda Triangle and maybe Angel Feather. Great Nature can’t be taken seriously as a penultimate boss
>>81749033>>81749451>>81751685JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP >>81750291>700~ I was almost tempted to go for the top 500 again, but I just didn't have the energy for the grind
>>81745891>Thanks for reminding me that we still haven't got an OST from Asia Circuit to Legion Mate after almost 10 yearDon't get your hopes up lol. I have a playlist of all the unreleased stuff I've found on youtube along with my rips:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkdRgUu5YGzQyii1dtoT84jRVzo2l1pDQ
>Tfw your opponent sacks 3 heal triggers in a row in the 5th fight of tournament modeSometimes it's like the whole world doesn't want you to win.
>>81724784None of the episodes are fun to watch
>>81755077She charges extra for anal.
>One of the guys I kicked out yesterday sent another requestUuugghhh this is awkward
>>81755423>leech who got free packs, title, and tickets from us wants to leech some moreDoes he have no shame?
>>81755423Fuck that guy, if someone was kicked it's because they didn't do enough.
>>81756389>>81757423I thought about doing an "annoucement" asking people to actually play the event and if they didn't they would get kicked out. Since from that guy's POV he just got kicked out without explanation.
>>81757556>Since from that guy's POV he just got kicked out without explanation.If they were actually from the threads, they'd know why.
>>81757556You should, it's better for everyone
>>81758011I don't think he was, I don't think even half the people in the team are from this thread, but if he is he can make a post and I'll let him back in.>>81758150Yeah, next time a tower event happens I'll do it.
>>81758505Can you put it in the description of the group or something? Like "If you don't get as half as our top ranker then you're out"?
>>81758572I don't even play Zero but that's extremely tryhard and just tedious especially when there may be rewards someone personally doesn't give a fuck about.If the majority of you fags want something just say it in the thread(Or say it in game if there's a chat feature) and then start flexing with kick threats otherwise just accept that some people have lives or other games to play
>>81758631I mean not enough people cared last event and that's why one of our top spots left.
>>81758631>I don't even play ZeroThen your opinion is fucking discarded, what a shit reply that has no idea what they're talking about.
>>81758709Then the leader definitely should do something about that if they want to put forth an image that the clan cares about rankings but saying "You gotta get half as our top" is just meh. Kick people sure but don't set up a stupid always varying rule like that.>>81758809>no idea what they're talking about.Don't be pretentious. Clan ladder rewards aren't rocket science let alone anything new to video games.
God I hate playing Bermuda but it's my best deck for rank, I only got like half the legions of the other decks and Paladin clans are boring.>>81758945Yeah, a specific number should be better.
>>81758945>Clan ladder rewards aren't rocket scienceThey apparently are for you, since again you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. I'll even explain it for you, dumbass. Even if you don't care about the Overdress cards or the leaderboard, you can still do the event for free packs regardless, but you have to do it multiple times to get them. It normally takes 5-10 minutes to do it, and some of the people kicked wouldn't even do it more than once for the entire event time period, but yet still had the time to consistently log in every day during it. Do you expect these faggots to congratulate you for championing them or do you enjoy being a shitty devil's advocate? >>81759079>a specific number should be betterNot really. Just have some fucking growth. Like, I don't fucking care if you only moved up 5000 points since yesterday, you're still better than that ass who went up 10000 points for one day and never touched the event again. Because the 5000 person is actually showing they're doing the event.
>>81755390Meh, I don't really like anal.
>>81758011>implying /bushi/ has 50 posters who play zero
>>81755077Time to build a deck around her
Best girl. I literally don't think I've ever found a unit this attractive.
>>81759941It only needs 30
>>81755423/bushi/ has a team? I'm in a random spic group who got top 100 last tower event somehow but would like to move
So what's the pull ratios for LM? I know you can't get more than one LSR / Fish pack per case but is one guaranteed per case?
>>81761411>So what's the pull ratios for LM?Lyrical Melody has the same 4 RRR / 5 RR / 1 ORR / 1 SP ratios per box as regular D sets and hopefully a EN case will still give you the fix quantities for each RRR and RR since JP cases quantities are always all over the place>I know you can't get more than one LSR / Fish pack per case but is one guaranteed per case?You are guaranteed either one LSR or Fish pack per case according to aegis (case opener in Hong Kong), and it seems that all of the case openings I saw on Youtube have people pulling LSRs instead of Fish Pack so expect the latter to be more rare than LSRs.Next Thread: >>81761761
>>81759079>Paladin clans are boringBluish Flames are fun though. Can't wait for Glare (even though it's only a couple of weeks away)