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>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
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>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
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>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
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>Thread Question:
Post pet cards, alternatively, talk about specific artworks for cards that you like.
Also alternatively, post your favorite Phil or Kaja Foglio cards.
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>tq
my favorite art for a card is the lorwyn ponder
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>Golos banning brought /edhg/ together in their united hatred of Golosniggers
How long until the high wears off?
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>>81305966
God damn Lorwyn was soul incarnate
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>>81305966
You just want to fuck that merfolk, don't you
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If we're talking Foglio cards then I'd say coffin queen. It doesn't have as much of the trademark style as other Foglio cards like humility or recycle though so maybe Foglio fans will see this answer as a cop out.
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>>81305966
>>81305998
based lorwyn bros
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>>81305981
i was thinking about getting one for the ur-dragon. glad i did not. my friend had a golos deck for a while and it didnt really feel like a problem but he found the deck unfun and never played it until he decided to take it apart.
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>>81306017
absolutely not, friend. This is a foglio thread, all foglio art is loved
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>>81306011
yes but also
>>81305998
>>81306018
i love lorwyn so much.
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>>81306018
I want to pound the womb out of a faerie
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Guys i have to confess. I like the old-bordered, jank wordsoup planeswalker secret lair so much. God i love bizarrely worded old magic cards. I wish every old bordered card they made also was worded like a fucking alpha card, and written in Gaudy Medieval instead of Beleren.
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>>81305981
Never
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>>81305981
I'd say two or three more threads, you can already watch anons getting back to their former autist, gaslighting, schizo selves
>TQ
Always try to fit it in token decks, hardly works. You need a specific deck that cares about tokens+reanimator at the same time. But I just love it feels so old school.
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I find it really weird and surprising that Omnipotence and Apotheosis still have not been used as card names.
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What is it with people and not running artifact removal? I put a Mass Production on a Blinkmoth Urn and everyone just bitched at me for a few turns until I buried them in Servos. I really don't get it, It's not like any of it was difficult to deal with. I was just expecting it to be removal bait so I could get Planar Bridge out and go nuts with it.
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>>81306063
I wish most MTG art stil looked like this. And i don't even mean the scantily-clad lady in the corner, i mean that fucking artwork in general. It's so fucking cool, like... it's hard to explain without using the SOUL buzzword, but it just looks like someone put passion into it. I hate modern card art where so many things look like they belong in a chinese gacha game, not in MTG. Look at this stupid faggot for example. It looks like a robot drew this, it has no personality whatsoever.
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>>81306074
Fun is a cope word for not being good at deckbuilding. So people use that as a crutch to not run interaction
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>>81306096
Granted, we still get great art at least once or twice per set. I really like how pic related looks for example.
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>>81306096
I think it's because it shows the creature actually doing something. Way too many cards these days just have whatever they're depicting standing in the centre posing dramatically. It needs to be more like you're observing a snapshot of the creature in action, than it posing for a photograph.
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>>81306068
I vaguely remember an old article where they talked about not wanting to use too many general words. Something about limiting their design space and also being hard to back track if they fuck up. You can kind of tell what the issues are if you look at really old cards with extremely general words that are either extremely underwhelming or don't really match up well with the actual effect.
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>TQ: my favorite art work ever printed. I dont care that this cost me $17 for a 50 cent card, it was worth every penny to me
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>>81305935
ENTER the most soulful art we've had in MTG in years. I really, really, really, want a old-bordered version of it.
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>>81306127
I mean i get that but OMNIPOTENCE and APOTHEOSIS are two extremely specific words. Both should be black, btw.
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>>81306017
>>81306026
Is there anything more cool than Humility? Though Greed is also close to my heart.
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>>81306127
They've also brought it up more recently for counterspells, turns out there's only so many ways to say counter in the English language, and they've used a lot of them.
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>>81305935
>TQ
I once banged a girl by reciting her this flavor text so now it's in my deck. Thatk you Foglio.
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>>81306160
Surprisingly, i've recently found out when making some custom cards that Interject still hasn't been used.
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>>81306167
No Impede either.
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Most based Foglio card coming through.
Fuck white, I hope you guys never see the words 'draw a card" again,
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I want to have sexual intercourse with Gisa
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>>81306200
>the absolute state of me
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>>81306208
please do not lewd post in my thread
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>>81306208
I kind of hope there's a card in the next set with Geralf and his creations charging the other way.
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>>81306209
>doesn't destroy lands
it's shit
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>>81306032
based fellow fishfucker

>>81306039
absolutely based as well
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>>81306228
Why painters servant says no.
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>>81306231
The fact that I had to look this up to see if this was a tiddy edit disappoints me.
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>>81306208
I wanna sex whoever these semen demons are
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What's some spicy tech in your deck?

For me it's Lightning Greaves, Cryptolithe Rite, and making tokens.
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>>81305935
i liked this one so much i made it my playmat
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>>81306327
that bitch got six fingers
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>>81306296
Morality Shift with Syr Konrad in play, pinging everyone for a spicy 25 damage
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boom fixed
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Guys
Stupid question

Is there a way to search in Scryfall for spells with "a lot" of generic casting costs.
Basically spells which cost's can ve reduced by this guy here.
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>>81306063
What the fuck is a strossus anyway
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>>81306416
I would just search for spells with a higher mana cost in the right colors. Then scroll from there.
High CMC spells are limited, so it not like finding a good 3 drop out of 5k+ cards.

Or look at other cheating commander in the same color(s) and find from there.
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>>81306376
That's pretty shit for WUBRG
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Commanders for this feel?
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>>81306451
Idk but fukken saved
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I think the craziest thing about the Foglios is that they have one of the longest running webcomics and I only leaned about it a while back when I decided to look into what they've been up to.
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>>81306482
They've also made porn
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>>81306416
Apparently there is. In advanced search
Mana cost, and then click the plus sign and enter what you want
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>>81306482
They've also got a series of novels based off said webcomic. The two of them have a pretty high output.
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>>81306056
Golos was a crutch for bad deckbuilders. Simple as.
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>>81306446
That's what you get for playing 5c. And should be thankful.
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>>81306376
>you may search your library
Into the trash it goes
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>>81306346
This guy apparently fucked.
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>>81306589
He ran away and the left the kids fatherless.
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>>81306583
So Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar is a no go because you can fetch her book?
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>>81305935
>TQ
Why not all three? Feels great when you've got nothing to hide with uncounterable beaters.

Love the stained glass look of this card and wish we saw it more often. Not the phoned in Spark planeswalkers or what they slap on Benalish soldiers. The Bible quote is icing on the cake.
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To be honest, you need to have a really high IQ to play Blue.
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>>81306135
The only card that looks godly foil
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>>81306451
The one and only.
>>81306628
Are you still enjoying Rick & Morty?
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>>81306628
I don't know if you need a high IQ but you do need to be willing to spend some time thinking before you slam some cards down and turn them sideways
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>>81306628
It honestly requires more brain to pilot blue than most other colors, especially white and green. Red goes from easy dump hand to weirdest decks in game.
But overall, a blue player cants just dump a beater and smash face, which is why it's more likely to find a lame green deck than a lame blue deck. And this is also why simic sucks ass. It makes blue into a green flavor, so you just cut of half your brain.
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>>81306451
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>>81306673
Think of simic as blue powered by green’s resource engine. Or as green with blue’s strategies.
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>>81306208
you ARE playing the card as well, right?
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>>81306718
I see it as blue lets you draw for things, and green just wanna play the game. So this is why you get value from just playing, like tatyova. As much as I am a bluefag and dislike green, I think both camps can agree that simic for the most part is just shit, even if you have some nuggets in there like vorel or that salamader dude.
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>>81305935
>talk about specific artworks for cards that you like.
I adore 6th Edition Brushland
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>>81306736
Thanks for two reasons to play it
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I have a soft spot for this ugly mofo’s art.
>giant moose with a man’s head and it is colored like a jellyfish
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tempted to switch my tuvasa deck over to sythis and go more enchantment than voltron - how do enchantress decks usually win?
I had Enchanted Evening + Aura Thief, Enchanted Evening + Calming Verse, Approach of the Second Sun and stuff like Luminarch Ascension/Sigil of the Empty Throne as alt win cons in my tuvasa list
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>>81306805
Often like you described. Value out for something, or sometimes voltron, like with tuvasa or how sram does it.
I see some pillowfort strats, but I feel like that is just a crutch for not doing something to win instead of not dying.
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>>81306643
MORE
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Discuss
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>>81306805
flickering ward+altar of the brood
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>>81306841
Dies to removal
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Any suggestions for side load zipper binders? (preferably 9 pocket but smaller is fine too). Almost every one I see has reviews complaining about bending cards.
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>>81306841
this card rules. I play this in God-Eternal Oketra.
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>>81306846
you'd need infinite mana to pull that off no?
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>>81306841
Go wide? Good!
Not wide? Why bother?
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People love to meme about how 15 flying squirrels can kill Emrakul, but nobody is pointing out how a single bee with deathtouch also does the job
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>>81306868
Ultimate guard’s 4 pocket is my particular favorite. I haven’t run into any issues with bending cards.
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>>81306841
It's pretty much an auto-include in go wide decks. Really not much of a reason not to have it in there, just protection from most boardwipes already makes it worth it
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>>81306841
Makes my board full of flying indestructible squirrels and I can sacrifice them for more synergy to boot
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>>81306917
Don't judge the space monster on his anaphylactic shock after meeting the humble bumble bee.
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>>81306917
Based and hornet pilled
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Discuss
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>>81306927
perfect thanks
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>>81306841
i should probably put this in my ghoulcaller gisa deck.
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>wake up
>golos still banned
it just feels so good bros
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Squirrelposter reminded that I recently ordered one of these to try. Thoughts on it lads? 5 cmc is pretty high but the amount of squirrels I go through makes it seem worth it for the lifegain and card draw. The only real concern I have with it, is it isn't a "may" ability
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>>81306612
>100 card singleton format
>searches library anyway
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>>81305935
>Post pet cards, alternatively, talk about specific artworks for cards that you like.
Generally speaking, I tend to prefer the original versions of any given card, though exceptions do exist. I think DDG Bogardan Hellkite is a vast improvement over the TSP version, for example.
>Also alternatively, post your favorite Phil or Kaja Foglio cards.
You posted it, but I'd also like to shout out Kaja's Pyroblast.
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>>81307014
if you can draw your whole deck out. you can probably also spend a card blowing i up, or just winning since you have all cards in hand.
Unless you face nekusar or something, I'd say dont worry.
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>>81306135
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>tfw still don't know if i build Teshar or Orvar

They are both cool in their own way, give me some light guys
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>>81306966
I know for a fact a bunch of scr1 procs are very valuable. The art is kinda shit tho
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>>81307045
teshar is cooler
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>>81307027
Fuck man, I play a bogardan, but I never knew there was art like this for it. The original is good even, but this is so sick.
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>>81306841
I don't play Eldrazi or Eldrazi adjacent cards, so I don't care
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>>81306966
Gaea's Anthem is more soulful
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>>81305935
Why are Phil and Kaja so based?
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>>81307061
The only shitty thing is that they only come in foil, so you gotta hope you don't get a Pringle.
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>>81307085
Because style and readability of a card is important, something digital painters with 0 composition tend to forget.
Humility is great as an example. Wizard and dragon suddenly small and pitiful. It's so damn obvious when you look at the art and read the card to get it. It is now stuck in your head as long as you care for magic.
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>the best ban the RC ever did also pisses off the most people
Is all of this just the regular belly aching that always comes with every ban, or is this more? I see more of a call for ignoring/dismantling the RC than usual now that a ban actually affects more people. Will it eventually die down like usual, or will there actually be some sort of movement or schism in the playerbase?
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>>81307132
Anybody who was going to ignore the ban and play what they want anyway was not the target of this ban. I think people will get over themselves.
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>>81307132
Golos was the single most popular Commander of all time. Sheldor ruffled as many feathers as he could have with one simple announcement. It was enough to make people basically ignore both the MIC spoilers and the unbanning of Worldfire simultaneously.
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I just tried watching the Command Zone video on the Golos ban and holy fuck JLK is so full of shit.
>"I don't see that many Golos decks! But it's also the most popular deck! But there aren't that many people running Golos! But look at all these quirky, unique Golos builds that you're killing!"
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>>81307027
Post cards you prefer the newer art for. Not many such cases.
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>>81307155
Oh man, I haven't watched yet. I can only imagine how insufferable it is.
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>>81307169
They need to get Lukacs for more cards
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>>81307208
I actually like the old land tax art, but the new art is beautiful.
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>>81307169
The Medallion cycle
Sakura-Tribe Elder (the FNM Promo, not the SL)
Azusa
Ambush Commander
Decimate
Grave Pact (specifically pic related)
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>>81307208
I feel this one, this fits better, even if i like the sleaze of the old guy.
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>>81307208
My scene loves new Land Tax but we also love the old one because the guy bears a striking resemblance to our local That Guy's dad.
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>>81307132
its pretty par for the course aside from the eceleb shills being mad. they probably missed the bus on the insider trading of foils and are mad about it since thats how they make their money

also i think the RC is going to reverse the decision eventually and say its for the "community" to make people shut up and to drive up prices after the unban
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>>81307169
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>>81305935
Unban my wife!!!!
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>>81307169
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So I'm not sure I can make the sliver overlord mutate deck function that well. Basically it would just be a worse voltron and any addition of equipment or enchantments to improve it muddies the deck when you add in mutate and sliver creatures plus the mandatory draw and mana fixing, plus it would just work better under a more specialized commander.
There really aren't too many ways to abuse or combo or engine mutate or slivers alone at least that I've seen looking through my cards and I have to applaud WotC for that. If anyone does have any ideas though, please let me know.

Think I may be putting this one on the far back burner for now.
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>>81306966
>White card but better in Green
I hate WotC
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>>81307329
Wake up and realize white is the most hated color in R&D, blue is the favorite, and simic is the golden child.
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>A deck can have any number of cards named
Black: Rat Colony, Relentless Rats, Shadowborn Apostle
Blue: Persistent Petitioners
Red: Dragon's Approach

What will be the White & Green 'any number of' cards?
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>>81307346
That's the best reason to run a mono white deck, winning as the absolute underdog feels good
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>>81307350
also
>Persistent Petitioners - $1.43
>Relentless Rats - $1.62
>Dragons Approach - $1.72
>Rat Colony - $2.19
>Shadowborn Apostle - $3.97
meme decks are kinda pricey
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>>81307346
> blue is the favorite
Not anymore, green is favored more nowadays (but blue's still high up there). They also sometimes remember they have black and red, and occasionally throw a rotten bone to white.
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>>81307350
White: tap 30 cards named ~: gain 5 life and scry 1.
Green: 2g, sacrifice ~: put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control for each creature named ~ you control then draw a card.
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>>81307169
The bagpipes are alright though I still prefer this one by a lot, the original is not my taste at all.
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>>81307350
white
>you are a target opponent gain 1 life
green
>put 2 1/1 counters on each of up to 2 target creatures
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>>81307319
Do it anyway cunt
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>>81307378
to be fair rats dont run that many relentless rats or rat colony anymore due to all the awesome rats these days. shadow borne apostles also only really run like 15 at most which used to be cheap before multiple eceleb shills started pumping them
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>>81307245
>also i think the RC is going to reverse the decision eventually and say its for the "community" to make people shut up and to drive up prices after the unban
I highly doubt this will happen. The RC does actually tend to stick to their guns.
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>>81307169
I like the art for this one a lot better, but the goofy flavor text fit the original better.
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>>81307442
Did the goblin barkwright name him?
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Anyone made a deck for the commander who definitely isn't overcompensating for any shortcomings?
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>>81307505
>weird nose manlet makes golems from mixing colors
no thanks
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>>81307467
>>81307442
Nice
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>9/15/2021
>I am... forgotten...
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>>81307562
I'm sorry, who are you? You're clearly an artifact creature. Are you a golem? Or a construct?
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>>81307562
do you think that guy feels good about his life choices now?
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>cabal coffers showing as sent a week ago hasn't shown up
;_:
i'm going to get fucked aren't i
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>>81307562
forever in our hearts
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>>81307350
>Elephant Stampede
>GG for 3/3
>When Elephant Stampede attacks, for each other creature you control named Elephant Stampede, it gains +2/+2, you gain 3 life and draw a card
> A deck can have any number of cards named Elephant Stampede
> At the beginning of the end step, if you control five or more creatures named Elephant Stampede, you win the game
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>>81307467
>>81307442
My sides weren't expecting your response, anon.
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>Justice reigns from.. within?
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>>81307604
Delicious

>>81307319
Then make it the best worst tron you can.
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Please critique this deck I designed last night. It's Vial Smasher // Karum // Obosh. The idea is to set up Obosh and other doubling effects for Vial Smasher and play big spells to deal a ton of damage.

Playing Obosh as companion probably isn't optimal for this deck but I wanted to do it for fun and to make a deck with 3 commanders as a meme.

https://www.archidekt.com/decks/1839219#Vial_Smasher_//_Kraum_//_Obosh
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>>81307604
kek
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The absolute state of the white color
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>>81307802
I've been planning something similar, but with Jeska instead of karum for the full suit of retarded shit WotC has infected the format with.
This kind of deck apparently moderately common much to my disappointment,
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>>81307841
White Draw 3WW
Sorcery (M)
You gain 2 life. If you gained 5 or more life this turn, each player draws a card.
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>>81307855
>the full suit of retarded shit WotC has infected the format with
that was literally my idea lol. Make an incredibly spastic deck thats maxed out with all the modern-day edh garbage. basically to say "this is what WoTC wants so fuck it"
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>>81307841
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>>81307869
I mean, you're not too far off.
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>>81307841
card draw
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>>81307841
>>81307869
>>81307901
>>81307902
>>81307915
>nooooo why can't I do thing draw card in the color that doesn't do thing draw card
The best thing about wh*toid persecution complex is they have no one but themselves to blame lmao
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>>81306628
150 here
fuck bluggers
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>>81307962
Weak bait. You're letting yourself down.
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>>81307962
im not complaining tho
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>>81306074
Just as there are levels of decks, there are levels of players
I've seen people ragequit because they don't understand the stack or try to rush through resolutions
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>>81307442
>>81307467
The lore runs deep
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Why aren't you running it?
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>>81306074
Besides mono black where it's hard, every single deck I've got has some form of artifact and enchantment removal. Every deck I have with red in it has a shatterstorm.
Not because I'm hyper competitive or because I want solutions, but because I enjoy killing things off.
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>>81308055
Oh anon, but I am.

>>81308068
Why not Vandalblast?
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>>81307841
Is this image like 10 years old now? Green now draws cards for just breathing.
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>>81307266
Emracute!
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>>81306074
It's funny because in my pod, the ONLY removal that's run other than generic board wipes is artifact removal because they see me as the boogeyman with my artifact decks. Meanwhile if I run my enchantment deck or PW deck I get a free win because they have absolutely no answers.
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>mfw I found the skeletons of the birthingpod and splinter twin decks I was making for modern and almost had finished before the ban hit.
Guess I've got some good tools to work with now at least.

>>81308085
I run both, but shatterstorm is the more memorable "destroy all artifacts" card. People sleep on vandalblast though.
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>Zur group slug
talk me out of it.
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>>81308055
I don't run cards from any set made after the original Innistrad block

>>81308085
Not him but Vandalblast is good but only Sorcery speed
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>>81308136
>>81308068
This is what I thought was weird. Everyone knows that if the artifact player gets time to play solitaire, it's all over. So normally, I usually expect at least one of my wincons to get dusted, maybe even my entire board get valdalblasted. But for whatever reason, all three players had decided not to include any way of dealing with artifacts. Made me feel dumb about including so many ways to fish cards from my graveyard.
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>>81308171
>including the block that kicked off the decline in the first place
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>>81307703
God I wish that were me.
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>>81308131
Emracunny
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>>81308184
I include them just like I include season 9 of the Simpsons. The start of the decline is there but the rot hasn't fully set in yet

>>81308180
For me? I love fucking over Enchantment players
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>>81307703
I still think that they should've gotten this guy to do the art for Feather.
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>>81307841
8WW
Sorcery (M)
Convoke 5 (each white creature token you tap counts for (1) colorless mana, can only tap up to 5 creatures to pay the Convoke cost. If a creature used to pay the convoke cost entered play this turn, regardless of haste, this spell fizzles.
You gain 2 life if a creature also entered play this turn. If you gained more than 5 life this turn, each player draws x cards then gains x life for each creature used to pay the Convoke cost.

If a blue mana source was used to cast this spell, return target creature you control to its owner's hand.

You may draw a card.
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>>81307802
Looks like fun but you overlooked arcane signet. Also you have way too high of a curve. Try keeping it below 3.75 average mv. Add more spell copying like reiterate.
A neat card I've found for big dummy decks is arcane laboratory if you already cast only one spell a turn anyways, you need to slow the game a bit.
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>go to new LGS
>”EDH” is basically cEDH
>every table is people running remora, winter orb, stasis, etc.
>every wincon is just an infinite or thoracle
>every deck is “”optimized”” by proxying for the best mana base possible with the best rocks possible
>any card over 20 bucks is a proxy, and all of them are just trying to turn 1-3 end the game
Guess I won’t be playing edh here
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>>81308222
Wayne Reynolds has done some decent art but most of his work is literally 2edgy4me
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>>81308339
I like Ejsing...
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>>81308355
>I like Ejsing...
Well... I suppose statistically somebody has to
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>>81308339
Reynolds' monsters are usually great, I find his humans a bit more hit and miss.
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>>81307802
I tried playtesting your deck, how could anyone bear to play with so many fetches?
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>>81306376
Imo what would have fixed Golos would be restricting his search flto Basics only and adding a T: to the cost of the activated ability. In fact, if anyone in my playgroup wants to try to rule 0 in Golos as a commander, that will be my condition.
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>>81308355
I like Giancola
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>>81308170
Sounds fun - got more specific ideas?
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>>81308170
tutors in the command zone are boring
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO MY GOLOS DECK GOT BANNED!!!! WHAT EVER WILL I DO??!?
What was your deck's strategy?
>Lands
Cut black and play 4C Omnath
>Maze's End
Play Child of Alara
>Cheating in big spells
Play Jodah/Ramos
>Planeswalkers/Legendary Creatures
Play 5C Sisay or Esika, or alternatively Atraxa
>X-tribal!
Morophon literally exists for this purpose
>Artifacts
Cut Green and just play Breya, jesus christ I looked at the EDHrec page for Golos artifacts and the only green cards are the Myr that taps for green, Ich-Tekik, Etched Monstrosity, and the usual Cultivates/Rampant Growths
>Enchantress/Shrines
If you're doing Shrines Sisay can fetch any of them.
>Blink
General Tazri exists I guess
>Spellslinger
Codie exists

Is there ANY gameplan that Golos decks ran that couldn't be done as well, if not better by another 4/5 color commander?
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>>81308556
Shut up faggot
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>>81308556
just change him out for kennerth, deck functions exactly the same
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>>81308570
I'm not sorry that Golos is banned.
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>>81308556
>Is there ANY gameplan that Golos decks ran that couldn't be done as well, if not better by another 4/5 color commander?
The problem is that Golos is actually a better commander for all those strategies than the alternatives you listed. And this is why the ban is a good thing.
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What are your thoughts on this commander?
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>>81308570
>t.
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>>81308055
I've considered it. It seems legit good. Has it worked well for you?
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>>81308642
Picrel
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>>81308556
You forgot:
>muh quirky unique golos builds
If it was really that unique or quirky it wouldn’t be using golos, the most popular commander.
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>>81308642
it shit and your rarted
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cards to put in the new Eloise?
aka, the newest
DO THING
DRAW CARD
commander
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>>81308631
Tell me with a sincere face that Golos is the best pick for 5-color Artifacts when the deck is just WUBR Artifacts + green ramp spells.
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>>81308668
Why do they do this for literally every commander now? Are they that much more popular?
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>>81308668
i dont get the hype, it just seems like a UB aristocrats commander that generates surveiling clues. Not saying she isn't good but wow is that an already explored archtype and surveil just means more consistency in a format based around 100-card singleton.
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>>81308308
>new LGS
From my kind of experience, those kinds of metas actually tend to burn out really fast.
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>>81308556
It's really a condemnation of the deck that all the golos players are so easily able to switch to another commander. Goes to show how bland they are.
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>>81308685
Grabbing any land and casting cards for free is definitely better.
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>>81308556
You don't understand I DESERVE a tutor in the command zone for the best lands in the game. Wym I can play him without the activated ability I NEED to cast free spells how else am I supposed to win.
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>>81308659
etched foil looks like shit and she's overplayed and boring thank you have a nice day
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>>81308659
I've played my Gwyn deck using her as the commander a few times and it was pretty fun.
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>>81308753
I thought etch foiled looks cool. It reminds me of foil old border gold cards.
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>>81308685
>Breya is an infinite mana outlet artifact creature
>Golos is an infinite mana outlet artifact creature
Yeah, I'd probably say tutoring a land is a far more relevant ETB than making two thopters. 5 colorless is also much easier to cast in an artifact centric deck than WUBR.
Breya's cuter though, I'll concede that point.
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>>81308556
>>Cheating in big spells
>Play Jodah/Ramos
Is big spells the best use of Ramos? Seriously asking, I have a Ramos charms deck that I'm kind of 'meh' on and am looking to turn it into... anything more fun.
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>>81308803
Turn it into an anti-Golos deck. You’ll still run into some stubborn folks who will force rule 0 in every game. Include Counterspells, rakdos charm, artifact hate and activated ability counterspells.
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>>81308773
you literally cannot see the card
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Recommend me some cards to put into a chaos deck for her
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>>81308803
I run my Ramos as a Voltron/Combo deck. Cast a bunch of multicolored spells that get me a lot of counters and swing for lots of damage.
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>>81308298
>arcane signet
you're right, thnx! Arcane lab seems pretty nice and holy shit tat art is amazing, surprised i never knew about this one. Think you're right about the curve too

>>81308445
what are you talking about lol. you get perfect mana fixing and synergy with brainstorm and top if you wanted to add that. do commander players really?
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>>81308980
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>>81308957
Do you plan on winning, or just being a memester?
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>>81307155
>all of Josh's decks are boring, bland decks full of the same color staples with little variation
>seething over the most boring, bland commander being banned
Why am I not surprised
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"Shut it down"
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>>81309014
Link some of his lists?
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>>81308803
>>81308960
List here: https://deckstats.net/decks/102256/969407-ramos-legendary-defender
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How do you stop from being the policeman of the table? My decks all have a good amount of interaction and removal in them as I figure all decks should. However, I've noticed that because of this, my play group seems to have actively reduced the amount of removal they play. They still pack some removal to deal with my threats, but it seems like they always expect me to deal with anything while they freed their decks up to run more gas. What do?
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>>81309075
I don't know, run aggro?
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>>81309075
Play stasis. I'm not kidding, one or two games where they have to wait an hour for anything to happen and they'll put all the removal they had and more in.
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>>81308339
Great alter for Feather although not having four wings is a downside
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>>81309075
Reduce your own removal so that they will begin to increase theirs. I had a similar situation where I was running esper and almost my entire deck was control elements with very little wincons to prevent people from going absolutely crazy. I eventually noticed almost no one else was running any sort of counter, kill, permission, or taxation so I drastically scaled back one day and loaded in a few wins with endless token spam to the point they all upped their own answers and we achieved balance again.
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>>81307227
every time i see this art it reminds me of this
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>>81307329
Many such cases
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>>81309075
How much stuff do you run?
I am the reason my group plays more interaction because they realized how important it was when i could just turn their hard work into dead. But I still made myself the threat with on board actions, so I'm not the police, I'm just a good guard so to speak.
I guess you should run less removal and develop more on board, but its easy to say without knowing what and how you play.
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>>81309075
Play Stax, you're still policing the table but now they'll hate you and will be forced to run interaction if they want to do anything.
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>>81309137
same also in esper colors, accidently locked one guy out completely so it was just me 2v1ing for the rest of the game but because the deck isnt a value shit pile it couldnt keep up and got knocked out
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>>81309010
The latter
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>/edhg/'s kill-on-sight poll foreshadowed the Golos ban months in advance
Chulane soon, brothers.
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>>81309221
Why the fuck does Krenko and Brago have so many votes. Wtf bros
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>>81309285
have you never played against them?
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The Spirits Squadron deck in Crimson Vow is a Boros deck with Thalia as the commander. I’m serious btw, screenshot this and you’re welcome
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>>81309191
About 10 or 11 pieces of removal including 4 or 5 mass removal cards.
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>>81309285
For Brago presumably because Brago decks either:
>are stax
or
>spend 5 minutes on each combat step resolving ETB triggers
Either way, it's boring as fuck to play against.
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>>81309024
Oh, I'm just basing it off of game knights videos. 75% of them are the same on-color staples and auto includes and about 25% are whatever new pushed cards they're advertising.
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>>81309221
Why you hate my Scarab boi??
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>>81308685
>Tell me with a sincere face that Golos is the best pick for 5-color Artifacts
Golos can grab your inventors' fair to grab any artifact you want, and if you get infinite mana (which isn't hard with artifacts) you can put every land from your deck in play and use its ability to just vomit whatever you want.
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>>81309221
>Kaalia
>In the year of our Lord 2021
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>>81309317
I am doing 5 boardwipes and 6 targeted kill spells/ counterspells, in jhoira of the ghitu.
The whole plan is that I can control the board whilst waiting for my things in suspend.
If you do the same in an average deck, you probably can drop the amount of boardwipes unless you don't build a board presens.
And targeted removal should always be instant so you can be responsive. See that 20/20 stomper? You can just let him be and not kill him unless he attacks you.
You also have to know what to police. I find many people just kill the biggest threat without it being a threat since you had the answer.
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>>81306416
Whispers of the Muse
Reiterate
Capsize
Apex of Power
Seething Song
Firemind's Insight
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>>81309285
Craw players hate both Krenkos because they prove that you can do aggro at 40 life
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>>81309221
>The only decks I have on here are Zur, Krenko, and a WIP Atraxa
How did I make out lads
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>>81309329
Resolving etb should be super fast. Are you all playing with turtles
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>>81309221
>have literally none of these
I am a good player
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>>81309606
why you have so many decks
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Thoughts on The Ineffable and his plane of Phyrexia?
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>>81309312
>Boros Spirits
>on Innistrad
>When Innistrads spirits have historically always been a W/U tribe
>When there's been a total of 3 Rx spirits on Innistrad, and the only notable one was Malignus
???
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My decks:
Braids
Jhoira, of the Ghitu
Delina, Wild Mage

how’d I do
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>>81309650
Because I like the game and was going for the 32 deck challenge. Working on a list for Karn at the moment since colorless is the last one I need.
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>>81309650
Not that anon but I have 28 decks in paper, excluding precons and slightly modified precons.
>>81309606
The 4 decks and Zur are cringe but otherwise pretty solid choices.
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>>81306416
X spells my dude
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>>81309681
They won’t release two UW spirits decks back to back. We just had Ranar in kaldheim
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>>81305998
Some of the best flavor text in the game.
>know everyone knows what you are
>what you are
>what
Not who. I love it.
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>>81309716
I’ve come to hate that 32-deck thing because it leads to people building decks out of a sense of obligation, rather than just building decks that they want to play. Which then inevitably leads to bitching about different color combinations not catering to their preferred play styles, instead of just recognizing that different colors play the game differently.
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>>81309712
tell me how I know you like big stompy
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>>81305998
Chris Moeller never misses
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>>81309736
They would if there's a Jeskai Spirit legend coming down the pipeline. Its called cross selling lad.
>>81309772
I never got the impression people were actually making and running 32 decks at a time. I always thought it was a more an exercise so you'd try every color combo at some point to see if you like something you didn't think you would.
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>>81309769
Because he’s talking about a status designation, not a clarification of identity. “Who” encompasses the individual in their entirety, “what” is used for specific categorical designation.
I’m honestly a bit unclear on why the flavor text being proper English is such a big deal to you.
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>cards for my urza polytyrant list showed up
>it's fast, strong, and lived up to all my expectations, even if I had to kill my previous commander for it
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>>81309716
cringe
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>>81309736
Why do you think that? Ranar was Foretell support, not Spirit tribal.
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t. Golos
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>>81309677
I'm a big fan of his work.
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>>81309772
Anon a good chunk of my decks are token-focused (AKA my preferred playstyle)
>Krenko (goblins)
>Ezuri (elves)
>Ranar (Spirits)
>Brudiclad (Artifacts)
>Sidar Kondo/Tana (1/1s)
>Ich-Tekik/Ishai (Golems/artifacts)
>Sidisi (Zombies)
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>>81309712
Based waifish maybe abused waifu enjoyer
>>81309809
Yes, anon I too understand the english language. I like the bravado of the statement parred with the relatively unique effect.
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Who on earth is the retard paying 10 eurobucks for a Worldfire? that shit was 70 cents 2 days ago
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>>81309809
Yeah, I thought >>81309769 was pretty obvious and not particularly remarkable as flavor text.
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Can we post our decks next thread?
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>>81309809
>why do people keep quoting that conan movie, its just about pillaging
No retard, its about the candor of the statement in the moment. Ask me how I know you were raised by only your mother.
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>>81309712
Excellent taste, have a (You) on me.
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Anyone got the template for the 32 color combination challenge?
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>>81309872
>asking permission when you have full autonomy
Selesnya player?
>>81309879
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>>81309500
Still a popular commander amongst angel dragon and demon fanboys. Also seems like the only commander lady gamers choose.
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>>81309809
Reading this sent a chill down my spine.
>>81309903
She's a pretty faithful rendition of the old Suicide Girls look (which all women think is hot/empowering).
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>>81309890
This is now an incomplete challenge. We've got Partners and Planeswalkers and Pauper as deck types that can be just different enough that you'd want to build 1 of those too if you want to run the complete spectrum of decks.
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>>81309429
that isn’t a faggot list, it’s a threat assessment list.
no one is going to roll their eyes at Scarab God but he’s a competent threat since he can:
-cause life loss and card advantage just by having creatures
-has a built in instant speed grave hate ability that also gives him the creature
-Dodges the tax with his death ability
He’s not the faggotry supreme that Chulane is but it can’t be allowed to go unmolested.
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>>81309873
The emphasis wasn’t on the content of the statement, but the use of “what” rather than “who.” But there’s nothing special about that usage—the alternative presented wouldn’t even be correct. Highlighting it is just a bizarre choice.
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>>81309903
>angel dragon and demon fanboys
Angelfags really got it bad when the newest angel (Liesa) is practically a demon tribal commander due to the fact she works well with Shadowborn Apostles.
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>>81309872
yes, but keep big milky posting going
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>>81309965
>soulless: the post
The emphasis is actually on "now."
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>>81309809
>autism
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>>81310003
That anon is a soiboy, if he doesn't get why the flavortext is cool thats his failing.
the exact image you uploaded is what I think of when I play Intimidator
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>>81309967
Makes sense, she made contact with many demons and even a pact with one
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>>81309967
Angelfags are always going to have it bad when the company making their angels are wiccans and amoral liberals. Corruption was all they were ever going to get in the long run.
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>>81310057
Never forget why there is no Witch creature type
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>>81309967
Dragons and Angels are the only “iconic” tribes with consistent support. Kaldheim was very good for angel decks, even if the art wasn’t good at times.
>Sphinx tribal
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>>81309960
The only time I've gotten someone to scoop with something on the stack was a Scarab God player using that put in deck effect and I hit someone else with a Field of Ruin. Guy immediately said he chooses not to search, I told him it wasn't a may so he can shuffle up.
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>>81309221
>brago not even on there
Yet I can never get him to resolve
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>>81310036
Do black colored women really?
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>>81310096
I'm a big gay faggot who can't read
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>>81310096
Bruh he is in the middle
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>>81310089
Well done. I once had some scoop because they tutored their wincon to the top of their deck and then I cracked Lantern of Insight when they tried to draw it
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>>81310097
Post it
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>>81310089
>put in deck effect
Are you thinking of the God Eternals that go 3rd from the top?
the Hour of Devastation gods just return to hand.
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>>81310142
I think so, all the Gods are the same in my mind lol.
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>>81309960
ikr he's such a good lad
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>>81310142
>Commanderfags
>reading cards
lol
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>>81310125
I've shamefully scooped after Chaos Warping a commander into the deck and having the guy flip it back over with the reveal.
I cut his deck too.
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I unironically hate higher power games, feels like I could just go get some lunch instead of waiting forever for the turn cycle to get back around to me
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>>81310186
Slow play is not exclusive to higher power games. I've seen many a Timmy struggle with what to play or do during combat
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A Golos player asks if he can rule 0 to use his deck
Wat do?
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>>81310186
I find some decks can be way worse than others. Anything that recurs for 10+ mins is cancerous to play against. I find that tokens can sometimes be like this too. Depends on the person. I’m sure there’s others I can’t think of
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>>81310186
Find a group that plays faster or knows the game better. Your problem isn't a high powered problem, its a brainlet problem.
Do people do drugs while playing?
>>81310236
Laugh at him then say sure. Then vote no. His rejection by society needs to be re-affirmed and I'm fine doing it if he wants me too. They'll never fucking learn.
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>>81310236
Flip through it and see how braindead it is or simply use one of my overpowered decks with multiple infinitie, engines, and fast tech wincons to make his life miserable.
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>>81310236
>sure, but I need you do something for me too. Let us strike a deal, old pal
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>>81310035
Never said it wasn’t cool, just that >>81309769 is weird for making a big deal out of the use of language as the reason that it’s cool.
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>>81310186
What kind of decks do you face? Jhoira storm with someone who hasn't learnt to keep track of his storm count and floating mana?
All high power games I play goes fast, atleast the turncycles, since they do optimized plays with decks they know. They just know how to sequence shit when they have to, and don't stop for 5 minute per turn to talk politics and other bs.
Craw takes a year because some fag don't know if he wanna play his creature with cmc 6 or the one with cmc 7. Thinks about it for 15 minutes and finally plays scuttling doom engine.
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>>81310186
>playing in a grognard pod of stoners
>play a creature after combat
>have to spend multiple minutes explaining what the post combat main phase is
I hate low effort players (secondaries).
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>>81310236
some guy tried to do this to me over spelltable lol
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>>81310236
“No.”
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>>81310275
Anon, literally every quote that anyone likes is because of the deliberate usage. Its how quotes work my man. You're on the spectrum if this has to be explained to you at this stage in life..
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>>81310084
Sphinx tribal’s a meme, and yet somehow still more playable than angel tribal.
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>>81310277
it was grist, like I love the dude irl but man every time the turn cycle comes to him its
"uhhh, shit should I plus or do this or uhhhh" for like five minutes before he just plays a land and +1s it before passing
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>>81310300
And usually that’s because of the choice made in expressing the concept, rather than it being the only valid construction. It’s a compelling line for a number of reasons, but the fact that it’s syntactically sound is the lowest bar imaginable.
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>>81310275
brainlet
>>81310186
My group forces one of the guys to goldfish his deck for a day before bringing it to gamenight now. He's got a reputation of slapping together a netdeck and never really getting how it functions.
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>>81310305
Man I feel you. My friend HAD a golos deck, and it could take minutes for him to just play the cards of the casino. I just don't get how they don't get their own decks.
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>>81310300
>me when someone counters my T2 play and I decide taking them out of the game is my new win condition
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>>81310305
i feel these are the same people as the ones that hesitate at a mcdonalds after having waited in line. Like bitch the menu hasn't changed in decades just fucking pick something
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>>81307442
>>81307467
Fucks sake, this is how you do it lads
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>>81310344
same, had a dude with a braindead casino golos deck and was forced to switch over to jodah and I shit you not just told me "well I would go infinite here and win but without golos I don't know how to do it" Like even with infinite card draw and mana he didnt know how to play his own deck to win on the spot before being focused by the table and knocked out
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>>81310356
For me its the drivethru at Popeye's. Those dumb fuckers are always ordering 100 dollars worth of fucking fried chicken.
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>>81310377
Guy in my group is like that with Breya. Built it, upgraded it, blinged it out, then took it apart. "I just can't find a way to win with it."
Bitch your commander makes artifact tokens that fly, she has a sac ability that does damage directly to face wtf son how can you not win?!
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>>81310186
slow play is a player problem not a power level problem. most slow play is caused by not knowing your deck/combos, not paying attention/planning your turns while others are doing things, or people being distracted or on some sort of mind altering substances but these are people who should be avoided anyway
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>>81310386
>be behind a guy for 15 minutes in the drive through
>they hand him a single soda and he leaves
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>>81310413
My group has a joke rule that if priority is passed to you and you're on an app on your phone looking down you lose 40 life.
If there's ever a moment you look up and the other 3 players are looking at you you die.
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>>81310440
we just take a break in between games for like 15 minutes so people can look at their phones and stuff
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>>81310432
The soda didn't have soda in it, it was a drug deal. I got a fat half zip once by ordering food at an Arby's when I made a custom order (extra onion no tomato). It was very confusing and I never went back there after getting free weed.
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>>81310440
My group is more of the barbarian way. You shout the shit you do as if in the yugioh anime, no one misses shit that happens. But you still have to keep track of rhysitc remoras and similar.
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Let's play something scrubs. Take the rank of your commanders on edhrec and average them. Higher number wins
>Elenda
237
>Sedris
348
>Kraum&Kodama
769
>Neheb dreadhorde champion
518
>Tana&Falthis
1235
>Average
621.4
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>>81310471
that sounds hella gay
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>>81310471
Same its pretty loosey goosey. We all shit on the U player by randomly asking him if he paid the 1 all game.
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>>81308658
It's colorless mass haste enabling on a two drop. It's really good, from value decks, to combos. It makes combos viable in some shells that weren't previously, like infinite token production in Teshar.
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>>81305935
>(((Phil and Kaja Foglio)))
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>>81310529
They both have a wonderful portfoglio
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>>81310561
titty-edit when?
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>>81310479
You don't like bros hanging out playing commander, trying to stomp you with overoptimized ways to play fatties to attack? If drakuseth is gonna hit the field, niggas gotta know big daddy is home.
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>>81310581
idk why but I always assumed he was a 3 headed dragon from the thumbnail
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>>81310581
Your group sounds cool anon. High powered craw is peak magic.
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Gone for a shit
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>>81310598
>speculatorposting on /edh/
Either proxy it or buy it dude.
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>>81310622
Woops, wrong thread
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>>81310598
>golos gets banned
>noticable dip in major edh staples
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>>81310599
Yeah, it feels awesome. My friend got mystical tutor for his scion of the ur dragon voltron deck, just to get either tainted strike as ur dradon copy, or just living death a billion dragons. Another has landfall going like crazy, just to make a bunch of tokens and smash some head.
I am blessed without a doubt.
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>>81310640
Sounds like the type of group that attacks on T2 with a mana dork to send a message. I love it.
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>>81310472
>go to check kamahl's rank
>#687
wtf? Isnt he everything an open ended green deck wants? Why does questing beast have nearly the same amount of decks as him?
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>>81310472
Decks hidden to protect the innocent
Avg of 7 decks is 221.71
I have 2 two-digit decks and one deck in the 500s which pulled me way up.
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>>81310581
sounds like your group has a lot of sexual tension anon
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>>81310672
old bad new good
I know at least 6 people who make EDH decks as “what recently rotated cards do I have in these colors.”
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>>81310640
>Krenko player plays pic rel
>"combat time ya gitz!"
>everyone starts banging on the table chanting ooga chugga ooga chugga ooga chugga
>Krenko player puts both hands up pointing to the heavens
>swings arms around and double points at someone
>*a doom gong sounds in the distance*
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>>81310712
Unfathomably based
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>>81310712
Based beyond belief
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>>81310712
There's an old guy at the LGS that plays every game of EDH like its a DnD campaign. Its great.
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>>81310736
What does a graveborn look like
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>>81310712
Irrevocably and fantastically based and goblin pilled. OOGA CHUGGA OOGA OOGA OOGA CHUGGA
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>>81305981
The Golos ban has been hilarious because it shows the worst of all sides in social media and the 'hardcore commander' crowd.
I've been enjoying it.
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>>81310807
It's telling of how right the RC was in banning him when all the biggest ecelebs cry over their "super original golos deck TM"
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>>81310888
I like how all these "NOOOO MY JANK DECK" players came out of the woodwork

If your commander alone facilitates Homarid tribal, maybe he's too strong
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>>81310273
This should be the default response to someone trying to Rule 0 Golos
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>>81310377
Not to mention Breya just accidentally combos off with typical artifact support.
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>>81310888
People claim their disconnected from the userbase now but this ban shows they know what they're doing. Golos was a problem.
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>>81310305
Analysis paralysis is a legit thing that happens in this hobby.
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>>81310888
The fact is that Golos was a pushed commander, and a solid addition to boost decks on the cusp of unplayable to playable. Golos was a good commander for many decks... but people just built him goodstuff and pubstomped.
I thought that sort of issue is supposed to be fixed by muh rool 0. But Rule zero is fucking useless outside of your own small personal pod and isn't a way to manage a format.

So a Commander that should be used sparingly in the magical Mystical world that everyone lies about existing in the EDH space got abused, and people just reeeee'ing on all sides.
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>>81310975
paralysis of choice.
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The best part of the ban is when people unintentionally just prove the ban was correct.
>boohoo, now I have to take apart my ooze tribal
Well why the fuck were you using Golos as the commander for fucking ooze tribal?
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>>81310988
Golos players honestly think they'd be allowed to use their commander if Rule 0 was used. None of them realize they'd get told no still.
We throw the word cope around a lot but those chumps are coping in the extreme right now.
Its surreal how unified the entire playerbase is in telling them they aren't liked or welcome anymore and they still play the victim card. Its astounding.
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>>81310941
Good points. If the commander could turn any shitty gimmick into a game winning deck the commander was probably too powerful as an everpresent threat.
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>>81311119
>>81311119

New, move whenever
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>>81311103
Meh, its like that anon playing Gyuda sea monster tribal with 4 sea monsters in it. Golos quirky tribal was the same way, they still just killed you with Ultimatums and shit.
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>>81311087
I still think Golos has a place in the kitchen table EDH scene. He is the janklordiest janklord to jank. It just proves that, for all of the talk, EDH players wanna be competitive but don't understand how to build good decks without over the top shit.
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>>81311127
kek wrong on all fronts. No one wants competitiveness, thats why the fucker got banned. Don't bring that shit to our tribal fun times games you faggot.
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>>81310941
Plus you're wasting an opportunity to play this asshole.
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>>81308523
Like Golos?
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>>81308857
If I run into those people, I'll just say that it's cool, but I'll slot some of the banned cards I want to run if those are fine to play. I've been dying to use Limited Resources for a while.



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