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plz no shitposting, can we just have a normal thread?
Is the civil war finally over?
>>81304205wait fuck shitpost wars are considered normal at this point
>>81304210Nope. Because anons like to argue about nothing.
>>81304218>wait fuck shitpost wars are considered normal at this pointSad times. But they can get better.
>>81304210I would like to think that yes it is.
>>81304074>>81304122>>81304151OK, here's a synthesis of these points in the past thread plus a generalization to all shitpost spergwar topics. Hopefully this can silence a lot of the shitters and get the thread back on track. Peaceposting is the best kind of posting.1. Cyoas should have lolis if convenient. Lolis are excellent for gatekeeping, make cyoas better overall, and many anons love them. If you are making a cyoa where you could easily have a loli, have that loli.2. Anons should not demand lolis in everything. Most cyoas should have lolis, yes. Not all cyoas should however. Lolis simply do not work in everything and demanding otherwise is shitposting. Asking for lolis is completely ok though, particularly if the author doesn't have a good reason for not including some. Maybe he just forgot.3. Nobody should attack loli cyoas, lolicons, or anons who like lolis. Screaming about muh pedos is shitposting. Screaming about how lolicons are so bad is shitposting. It's ok to not like lolis, but it's not ok to shitpost about it. 4. Same goes for waifus. If convenient, have them. Do not demand them in everything. Do not attack them or the anons who like them.5. If anyone goes against these, then they are a shitposter. Whether a moralfag shitposter, a lolifag shitposter, or a lolifaker, they are a shitposter. There are no sides to shitposters, just shitposters. Fuck them. 6. Do not post shitposter content (so no spergwar cyoas, moralfag cyoas, or that one lolifag shitposter cyoa (the cyoag opinions cyoa)), do not engage with shitposters, and remember to ignore them when you see them and report them when they inevitably break rules.Let's try to have a thread following these guidelines, ok? Maybe we can all finally relax and have some fun together.Also, have a cyoa!
>>81304261I accept these terms. Peace it is, and to an everlasting period of cyoa prosperity
>>81304261Unfathomably based and peacepilled.
>>81304261Top-notch post, anon. Someone really ought to screencap it and post it whenever the shitters get at it again.
>>81304261>Cyoas should have lolis if convenient.>they're already telling others what to donot accepting these dogshit terms, fuck off
>>81304261>Peaceposting is the best kind of posting.Amen to that. I’m tired of all this shitposting, I just want to enjoy cyoas again.
>>81304274Just because you hate peace doesn’t mean we all do.
>>81304261Sounds reasonable enough. I hope this will finally bring peace back to our general once and for all.
>>81304286Anon, please. >do not engage with shitposters, and remember to ignore them when you see them and report them when they inevitably break rules.Now, who's your favorite waifu in >>81304261?
>>81304286 I think that that is a clear shitposter, and should not be engaged.
>>81304293Evalyne, probably. Trad lolis make me feel things.
>>81304261>6. Do not post shitposter content (so no spergwar cyoas, moralfag cyoas, or that one lolifag shitposter cyoa (the cyoag opinions cyoa)), do not engage with shitposters, and remember to ignore them when you see them and report them when they inevitably break rules.This point concerns me. Who determines when something is "Shitposter content". Is paladin a forbidden "Moralfag CYOA"? Is Black Magic? Who decrees what is badwrong cyoa?you have the spirit but the letter is critical.
>>81304261>Cyoas should have lolis if convenient.>Most cyoas should have lolis, yes.>Same goes for waifus. If convenient, have them.> If anyone goes against these, then they are a shitposter.>Nobody should attack loli cyoas, lolicons, or anons who like lolis>Do not post shitposter content (moralfag cyoas)>you are not allowed to criticize us, you will be pestered to include our content in your works, and you are not allowed to post cyoas we do not like. Also, if you don't agree with us then you're a shitposter.Funny how you call us the authoritarian moralfags.
>>81304296Good man.>>81304297Great taste anon, she's one of my favorites as well. If only the world was a little less bleak...
>>81304298>Is paladin a forbidden "Moralfag CYOA"?NTA, but I think we can call a moralfag cyoa a cyoa made by a raging moralfag or a cyoa that is filled with moralfaggotry. So paladin isnt, but PR and anything else by AHS is.
>>81304311>So paladin isntThen why'd you fags call it a moralfag CYOA when it dropped?
>>81304261>If you are making a cyoa where you could easily have a loli, have that loli.that's not enough to make it convenient
>>81304298Basically what >>81304311 said, though I think there's room for argumet with that one. Certainly PR is on the list, as is that opinions shitpost.
>>81304320>you fagsDon’t think I did personally
I'm making a femdom isekai adventure and I'm looking for inspiration.>the barbarian woman who smothers you with her tits>the sorceress who edges you for hours>the tsundere elf archer who gives you footjobI need more characters to choose from.Trash said it would be a good idea to travel in different region with different femdom customs. One of total rol reversal, one of religiously enforced bondage, on where nomadic female raider abduct men. I also need ideas for that.Finally, there is a question only tg can answer and that's how to make it fun? We speculated that if you go through femdom events it was to get some advantage but isn't getting overpowered totally incompatible with the femdom setting?I want to use a point system with events to change add or remove them.There will be events to choose from to make the characters stronger and add Battle points to spend in battles against monstergirls-Be the guinea pig for a Mage class character potions.-Take part in the Cleric class character religious festival. -Wrestle with the Barbarian class character for training....Other points could be Time, Supplies, Notoriety, Degeneracy, Stress... (still not sure about that)-Engage in any fetish of your choosing to lower your Stress but loose Time-Submission to the local queen in front of her court to get access to a new region and a ton of supplies-Some noble want you to attend her cfnm party and present you to other noble women to raise your notoriety but also degeneracy-If your degeneracy is too high in some kingdoms, you get to horny jail where women "correct" you and you loose both time and supplies...
>>81304330Anon, please. Do not engage.
>>81304261I'm also a lolifag, but I don't think it's reasonable to ask people to include lolis if they don't like lolis, even if it would fit the CYOA fine. Just let people make what they want and enjoy what they want.>>81304286I prefer peace, especially compared to how the thread has been lately, but hate rules. They have no actual weight or authority and therefore no effect except to make someone feel self-righteous in the next shitposting war when they're broken. In other words, they'll only make it worse in the long run.>>81304303"moralfags" by definition are people who try to stop other people from enjoying what they enjoy. Just ignoring the things you don't like isn't moralfaggotry, and leaving stuff you don't like out of your own CYOA is normal.
>>81304334Honestly that sounds pretty fun already, maybe add some ways to customize your waifu and to get more power?
>>81304339>I don't think it's reasonable to ask people to include lolis if they don't like lolisPolite requests are always reasonable. I put older women in my cyoas because anons prefer it, even though I myself don't like them.
good night moralbros and chaosbros, im gonna hit the hay. better not wake up to a thread of lolishit, or im blowing a gasket
>>81304339I like your ideas in this, and feel that we can get along, at least. Perhaps there's hope for cyoag yet.
>>81304261 I disagree with point 6.All CYOAs should be potable as CYOAs like PR clearly has people that like it and it is a rule that is too subjective to be of any use.Also it is not necesary to say that most CYOAs need lolis, everyone is free to do whatever but I do agree that shitting on people because they like or add lolis in their CYOAs is wrong.
>>81304339>in other words, they'll only make it worse in the long run.Not when the rules clearly define what is a shitpost and what isn't. If you see an anon politely asking that a cyoa with a waifu section have a loli, then that's not shitposting. If you see an anon screaming that the "build a robot-crewed spaceship" cyoa doesn't have lolis, that's shitposting. If you see an anon complaining about how another anon is politely asking for a loli, that's also shitposting.The rules just let us know who's clearly a shitposter so they can be ignored and eventually reported once they escalate to rule-breaking behavior.
>>81304369>CYOAs like PR clearly has people that like itpost proof
>>81304371That makes sense anon
>>81304334leather obsessed tomboy halfling
>>81304261Huh. Is CYOA really just a pedo hugbox now? I don't actually care about choose-your-own-adventures, I just used to lurk the threads a lot because you guys had such great digressions talking about mainstream scifi/fantasy/comic settings.
>>81304394>because you guys had such great digressions talking about mainstream scifi/fantasy/comic settings.Oh wait, nevermind, I was thinking of the jumpchain threads. CYOA general has always been shit.
>>81304394No, this is supposed to put an end to the stupid Civil War that has lasted a year.So that we can move on to discuss CYOAs without so much shitpostng.
>>81304378Amidst the spam, and even long after, it has seen runs of earnest discussion regarding its setting, without addressing anons outside said discussion.Perhaps you say that discussion was "always" in bad faith, and never unironic, but that cannot be proved or disproved. All we can prove is that there was both spam-tier reposting and reasoned discourse.If discourse on the thread is polite and self-interested, is there a point in attempting to judge whether or not it is earnest? Who is harmed or assailed?
Totally forgot about this guy's work. I will check it for inspiration too.>>81304341You don't customize them, you choose among several characters. x Mages, x Knights, x Rangers, etc...But maybe you can customize them in some way after all? Like choosing different version of them?>>81304387Thank you! That's the kind of suggestion I need.
>>81304261I really like these for the most part, but I want to make some tweaks and see if I can improve them a bit.1. Cyoas should have lolis if convenient. Lolis are excellent for gatekeeping, make cyoas better overall, and many anons love them. If you are making a cyoa where you could easily have a loli, have that loli. Even if you don't like lolis yourself, consider adding one just for other anons. On the other hand, unless you're explicitly making a loli-only cyoa, add a waifu for anons who might not like lolis. Godly Husbandry should have let you waifu the narrator, for example.2. Anons should not demand lolis in everything. Most cyoas should have lolis, yes. Not all cyoas should however. Lolis simply do not work in everything and demanding otherwise is shitposting. Asking for lolis is completely ok though, particularly if the author doesn't have a good reason for not including some. Maybe he just forgot. Asking for things that aren't so popular/ubiquitous is ok too. Feel free to ask for a tomboy milf.3. Nobody should attack loli cyoas, lolicons, or anons who like lolis. Screaming about muh pedos is shitposting. Screaming about how lolicons are so bad is shitposting. It's ok to not like lolis, but it's not ok to shitpost about it.4. Same goes for waifus. If convenient, have them. Do not demand them in everything. Do not attack them or the anons who like them.5. If anyone goes against these, then they are a shitposter. Whether a moralfag shitposter, a lolifag shitposter, or a lolifaker, they are a shitposter. There are no sides to shitposters, just shitposters. Fuck them.6. Do not post shitposter content (so no spergwar cyoas, moralfag cyoas, or that one lolifag shitposter cyoa (the cyoag opinions cyoa))*, do not engage with shitposters, and remember to ignore them when you see them and report them when they inevitably break rules. *You can post these cyoas, but make sure that you are not engaging in the shitposting the content was made for.
>>81304416Your problem is that loli fetish shit disgusts most people. This problem is never going to go away, your best bet is just to go back to /b/.
>>81304418This.As long as it isn't shitposting as we are defining it then any CYOA discussion is perfectly fine.
>>81304334>ideas for ... regions with different femdom customsInclude one where men are slaves to physically stronger women who keep them in chastity please. Orgasm denial and cunnilingus.
>>81304371That's assuming everyone buys into that definition.
>>81304430Ran out of space so I'm adding this to the asterisk:For example, posting PR and discussing its setting is ok. Posting it and saying it's the best cyoa ever is not. Posting it and analyzing why most anons dislike it so much is ok. Posting it and saying "this kills the lolifag" is not.
>>81304430Yep, this checks out. Very good post anon.
>>81304432Yeah but it is within the rules of the board so the ones 8n the wrong are the ones shitposting because of their moral outrage.Assuming we can stay civil then everyone benefits.
>>81304463Anon, please. Do not engage.
>>81304205>tfw love Dark Souls as a setting>tfw the magic system is extremely limited and boringAt least it seems cool in the lore but most of the time the game just makes it feel like you're throwing foam balls around.Now Dragons Dogma did magic fucking right.https://streamable.com/vlodd>>81304429>Thank you!No worries.>Like choosing different version of them?Like if you pick 'knight' you then choose the kind of knightly order she came from?If you go that way it would be easy enough to come up with specialisations for the other character types. The god the cleric worships, the magical school that the mage belongs to, the type of jobs the thief takes on.Anyway man I wish you luck. Especially if you're Larien
>>81304467I'm engaging because his point is valid.Some people unironically think that lolis=irl kids.
>>81304430I (the anon who wrote >>81304261) like it, but I really think that we need a period without the footnote for a while. Yes, PR can be discussed without it being a shitpost. I can think of several discussions about its lore and about how the moralfaggotry accidentally created an interestingly oppressive and backwards society that can be constructively talked about. It also does have some interesting powers. But I do not believe that these discussions can occur in the near future seeing as how everyone is so sensitive and how the shitposters will jump on any chance to shitpost.
>>81304479Those people are shitposting fags and should be ignored.
Italics... savior of cyoag.
>>81304480I think we can agree on that.
>>81304491Glad to hear it. Want to do the honors?
>>81304463No, anon, the ones in the wrong are the ones fetishizing little girls. I know that /tg/'s culture isn't what it used to be but "go back to /b/" is still a thing.To be clear, I'm not here because I saw a loli in a CYOA and got offended, I'm here because I saw a long post explicitly promoting loli fetish CYOAs, because they're "excellent for gatekeeping".
>>81304498Sure.1. Cyoas should have lolis if convenient. Lolis are excellent for gatekeeping, make cyoas better overall, and many anons love them. If you are making a cyoa where you could easily have a loli, have that loli. Even if you don't like lolis yourself, consider adding one just for other anons. On the other hand, unless you're explicitly making a loli-only cyoa, add a waifu for anons who might not like lolis. Godly Husbandry should have let you waifu the narrator, for example.2. Anons should not demand lolis in everything. Most cyoas should have lolis, yes. Not all cyoas should however. Lolis simply do not work in everything and demanding otherwise is shitposting. Asking for lolis is completely ok though, particularly if the author doesn't have a good reason for not including some. Maybe he just forgot. Asking for things that aren't so popular/ubiquitous is ok too. Feel free to ask for a tomboy milf.3. Nobody should attack loli cyoas, lolicons, or anons who like lolis. Screaming about muh pedos is shitposting. Screaming about how lolicons are so bad is shitposting. It's ok to not like lolis, but it's not ok to shitpost about it.4. Same goes for waifus. If convenient, have them. Do not demand them in everything. Do not attack them or the anons who like them.5. If anyone goes against these, then they are a shitposter. Whether a moralfag shitposter, a lolifag shitposter, or a lolifaker, they are a shitposter. There are no sides to shitposters, just shitposters. Fuck them.6. Do not post shitposter content (so no spergwar cyoas, moralfag cyoas, or that one lolifag shitposter cyoa (the cyoag opinions cyoa))*, do not engage with shitposters, and remember to ignore them when you see them and report them when they inevitably break rules.*Once the shitposting completely dies down, you can post these cyoas, but make sure that you are not engaging in the shitposting the content was made for. For example, do not moralfag with PR.
>>81304474Dragon's Dogman did all of its types of classes right.
>>81304512Aye, I'll have peace on those terms.
>>81304512That fixes all the issues I had with it. Now let’s just see if it works.
>>81304512>Cyoas should have lolis if convenient. Go back to /b/.
>>81304220Is there any reason not to pick ki? It might not have immediate, guaranteed immortality like picking genetics and taking the unaging option, but it's pretty straightforward to just train until you hit the immortality threshold. Not like super science where people will take it thinking they're going to be as like gods and end up dying in the gutter when they can't scrounge up the resources to make their anti aging nanites or whatever.
>>81304512Glad we could come to an agreement as a thread. But now comes the difficult part, sticking to this and ignoring the shitposting spergs.
>>81304261very good>>81304430even better>>81304512perfection
>>81304512That does it, I will give up my chaosposting ways. My duty is fulfilled.
Given the workshopping, I propose these Terms of Armistice>1) Accept that which is in /cyoag/If you see something you don't like, it's not for you. Loli content belongs here. Horror content belongs here. Earnest content belongs here.>2) Request what you desire politelyIf something you desire is absent, you may speak in its favor. Perhaps it will be granted, perhaps not>3) Ignore that which you do not desireThere is little point asking for it to be gone, as someone else desires it>4) A CYOA contains what a CYOA containsDo not rail against an element's presence nor rage at its absence.>5) War materials are hereby forsakenContent and actions with no purpose but to rile anons to rage and division is not protected by Rule 1 and does not belong.>6) Content previously tooled for war shall be treated with care.Post and discuss what you personally earnestly and unironically enjoy, or wish to discuss as content itself. Be aware of what may reopen unhealed wounds. If you're a newfag and don't know, lurk more, or invoke this armistice to ask if it must be asked.>7) The appropiate response to a breach of this armistice is to ignore and, if proper, report.Escalation does not help the thread. Do not escalate a shitposting situation.
>>81304569>vague>shitpost-filled>totally worse in every way than >>81304512Don’t like it.
>>81304569Did you make this purposefully vague? It's like it's designed to cause arguments.
>>81304569This is just pure shit. What do half of these even mean?
>>81304582>It's like it's designed to cause arguments.it is, chaosfags rise up
>>81304569I like it. It also serves to prevent future conflicts not related to loli content.
>>81304569I prefer >>81304512 desu
>>81304582It's vague for the reason >>81304589 mentions. Loli is not the only potential flashpoint by a longshot, nor is it special beyond being content that belongs in cyoag that was faced with opposition.
>>81304512This works great at ending this skubwar, and maybe those in the future.>>81304569This tries too hard to be too generic, and fails miserably.
>>81304605That only means anons will argue over it more. It only makes matters worse.
>>81304605This. >>81304607It's the exact kind of rules that >>81304339 was concerned about.
>>81304512Better. My concern is that specifically enshrining lolis will lead anons who wanted other things to see this more as disingenuous terms of surrender rather than terms of peace, though.
>>81304569>If you see something you don't like, it's not for you.This will be used to spam shitty cyoas and then smugpost at anons complaining about them.>If something you desire is absent, you may speak in its favor.This means literally nothing.>There is little point asking for it to be gone, as someone else desires itThis also means literally nothing. And is wrong. Asking authors to fix problems is a good thing.>Do not rail against an element's presence nor rage at its absence.This is opening the door to an inordinate amount of baiting and shitposting.>Content and actions with no purpose but to rile anons to rage and division is not protected by Rule 1 and does not belong.Imagine shitposters saying anything loli has "purpose but to rile anons to rage and division". Absolutely retarded way to say this.>Post and discuss what you personally earnestly and unironically enjoyThis means literally nothing.>The appropiate response to a breach of this armistice is to ignore and, if proper, report.This was said much better by >>81304512. Also, what's with the annoying pseudo-intellectual tone of that post?
>>81304582>>81304585>>81304607>>81304611I'm trying to understand: What's vague about saying "It's okay if a particular CYOA isn't to your taste. If you want to see something added to it, politely ask"?
>>81304630>Also, what's with the annoying pseudo-intellectual tone of that post?Ye that annoyed me too. It feels like it was written by a fag who likes smelling his own farts.
>>81304626>specifically enshrining lolisThat's why I also mentioned waifus. Lolis aren't special except for their gatekeeping ability and popularity. Also the second anon was smart for adding in references to other things.
>>81304630I agree with this poster. >>81304569 would need a total rewrite to be even remotely usable, and >>81304512 is right there.
>>81304632It's not loli-hugbox enough. That's the problem. These people will not accept any terms that fail to explicitly praise and condone their stupid, self-destructive fetish.
>>81304569the level of smarmy self-masturbation that is coming off this post is fucking off the charts
>>81304632>>81304651Not sure if these are the same poster or not, but I am suspicious.
>>81304655Doesn't matter. Ignore >>81304651 and only interact with >>81304632 if he says something more meaningful.
>>81304585>>81304606>>81304635>>81304643>>81304651>>81304653Guys, be polite. If you really care about peace, you can voice your thoughts more calmly like these anons:>>81304582>>81304589>>81304599>>81304607>>81304611>>81304626>>81304658
>>81304512i like this one
Wow I've been gone for a while and it's still shit hereIt is Gil's fault against isn't it?
>>81304659Get thicker skin, cunt. Doesn't matter if they're being polite, the only thing that does is whether or not the shit they're spewing is actually meaningful.
>>81304677Actually things are improving quite well. These rules >>81304512 are looking very promising, and anons seem to really be liking them. Now if only we can stick to them we might be able to turn the general around overnight.
>>81304680If they'd feel satisfaction from being rude than work with anons to make peace, then they're not really saying anything meaningful anyways.Please save the edge for another thread, dear anon
>>81304689>Now if only we can stick to them we might be able to turn the general around overnight.The shitposters, chaosfags, moralfags, and discord trannies are going to be dragged into this one kicking and screaming.
>>81304696Let them. Ignore them always, report them when they break the rules. That is the way it must be.
>>81304512Yep, I think this works. Very good work anons, now let’s put this into practice.
>>81304696yeah, chaosfag is going to be fucking pissed when he wakes up and sees all his hard work has been ruined
>>81304512but the cyoag opinions cyoa was based and not a shitpost at all
>>81304677It is ALWAYS gil's fault.
>One thread is autistic screeching and one faggot posting the entirety of Anime High School>Next thread is a fucking UN SummitAt this point I'm just confused.
>retards making termscompletely useless if the other side doesnt agree to them.>lolifags: moralfags! no longer do our groups need to fight because we have drafted up the terms of your surrender!>moralfags: ...
>>81304695>you're being mean so anything you say is automatically invalidatedMy point still stands. If you can't handle some randoms saying bad words then unironically get the fuck off this site.
>>81304735I can handle it just fine. But I'm trying to guide anons in a more productive direction. You can understand that, right?
>>81304729Most of the shitposters went to sleep. Then the anons who were left decided to fix the war by making some rules >>81304512. Hopefully this will begin to put us back on the right path.
>>81304334I see we've discovered Dragon's Crown...
>>81304747ngl I think the productive discussion is over, we produced the result already
Uhhh, guys?The jumpchain general is making fun of us again…
>>81304729>Next thread is a fucking UN SummitI too am confused. It took a year of nonstop shitposting for anons to agree “lolis good, shitposting bad”.Boggles the mind.
>>81304722I’m not pissed. I look forward to seeing it crumble into more drama and arguing within the hour. Chaos always wins.
>>81304732This made me think of a /cyoag/ manga where the groups of the general are personified as cute girls with the moralfags being the straight man and the lolifags being the boke.
>>81304756We'll see if it sticks, I guess. I prefer >>81304569's solution as it doesn't appear to take sides and futureproofs against potential conflicts that don't involve lolis or waifus.
>>81304659I don't care about peace, I care about the health of /tg/, and I am increasingly convinced that the regulars in these threads should be gatekept.
>>81304512Having now read this, I can say that I support it 110%. This is what we needed to get together and make months ago. Hell, this is what we needed to make years ago, back when this kind of shitposting/redditfaggotry first started. But better late than never, and this is a very good writeup of our values and how we can help avoid the shitposting that’s taken a year away from us.
>>81304783>I am increasingly convinced that the regulars in these threads should be gatekeptwhat the fuck bro why?
>>81304781It does all that really badly though. I half think it’s just a high effort shitpost.
>>81304773When you try to make that happen, we will ignore you.
>>81304798I disagree, but I respect you anyway
>>81304210I am so tired i just want it to fucking end.
>>81304816>I am so tired i just want it to fucking end.It'll end when that's where we all are. It's not like it's a shooting war, exhaustion is the main way out.We might be hitting that point.
Some days I think it'd be funny to compile the "you'll get the rope" and "we'll cut your balls off" posts and report them to the FBI as terroristic threats...but then I remember that they're already here, already aware, and doing nothing.
>>81304781This guy >>81304630 has the right of it. Those rules are terribly designed and are filled with gaping flaws. These >>81304569 are significantly better in every way except for the intent for future-proofing, though I think they still do a better job at reducing future conflicts even if they only explicitly mention lolis and waifus.
>>81304822let me guess, your autism alignment is insanity?
>>81304816>>81304819It is ending, anon. The non-shitposters of the general have come together to make a way to conclusively identify and ignore the shitposters. This is how we get back to normal, this is how the war ends.
>>81304569Why the fuck are you drafting unenforceable rules?
>>81304789Explicitly promoting loli fetish material as a moral ("anti-moralfag") agenda in an attempt to change the culture of /tg/. I understand that /tg/ is part of 4chan, loli shit is part of the culture, it's always been that way. But the point where multiple people agree that "CYOA's should have lolis if convenient", because "lolis are excellent for gatekeeping", is the point where /tg/ would be better off without you.I might get banned a few times for "shitposting", I don't know, but if enough people go out of their way to make you uncomfortable then all of you fags will go the way of the bronies, you'll get your own board for text-based fetish shit and /tg/ will be better off for it.
>>81304831That statement makes less sense the more I read it.
>>81304837I honestly think because he’s trying to shitpost. Those rules mean nothing, and often allow for shitposting while blocking genuine discussion, while these >>81304512 accomplish their goal of identifying shitposters so they can be ignored and reported.
>>81304845>he's never played autism prisonnewfags need to lurk for 2 years minimum
>>81304845It's a reference to the Autism Prison CYOA
>>81304848>their goal of identifying shitposters so they can be ignored and reported.That makes a lot of sense
>>81304848The statement still stands even then: why the fuck are you drafting unenforceable rules? What are you going to do when the shitposters wake up? "We made rules, now you have to follow them or else..." what?
>>81304859Read my post again. It’s not to be enforced, its for anons to have an easy identification system for shitposters. Anons who don’t follow the rules are shitposters, and can then be ignored and reported if possible. It’s self-enforced by the community, letting us detect and starve the trolls.
>>81304834I want to hope for that. But I thought that maybe things would simmer down in the filtering phase, when the tactic was shifting to ignoring shit. That was still in 2020.Like >>81304816, I'm tired. Not really anything else anymore, just tired. I still post CYOAs I like. Builds sometimes too. But it takes more out of me than it used to, and doesn't bring as much joy, wading through the mess this place has become.I want to hope it'll end this time. That this time, for real, we can go back to the fun autism where we argued about cyoas and broken combos and what waifu was better without it being part of a bigger conflict. But I don't know if I can believe. Anywhere, here's a cyoa.
>>81304880>That this time, for real, we can go back to the fun autism where we argued about cyoas and broken combossounds good>and what waifu was bettermask off.
>>81304880>when the tactic was shifting to ignoring shit.That didn’t work because anons didn’t know what shit to ignore. Now that we have those rules, we do know what shit to ignore. And in this thread so far we’re doing a pretty good job of it, the shitposters are often going without (you)s.
>>81304870>lolicon coomers all agree that lolicon is goodTruly groundbreaking, this is totally going to change the face of CYOAG.
>1-2 kingdoms>conversion * 6>smite * 9 Everyone with power greater than 60% is getting nuke’d. I then use my full army to go take Seille.Oh and btw, loli-shits, moralfags, and Chaos-niggers can all suck my dick
>>81304843Not him, but that's exactly what I was saying two threads ago. If Hiro brought back /l/, either board could have a cyoag, and both could stand or fall on largely their own merit. Gatekeeping is essential, though. That's the main part I'm hung up on. It would also push /tg/ further into the "gentrification" they've been pushing. Time was, you could dump an entire doujin and spoilers were seen a 'polite.'
>>81304870This >>81304894Your rules don't mean shit if even a quarter of the thread doesn't follow them, we're at 23 posters right now and we can go upwards to 70+ at times. Do you really think enough anons will give a shit about these rules for them to make a difference?
>>81304843Draft an errata then. I just want for us to fucking get along.
>>81304903I like Kingdom Crusher
>>81304859I think what >>81304870 is trying to say is that it’s not that the rules are to be followed by everyone, it’s that anyone who breaks those rules is obviously a shitposter.
>>81304919That is a clear shitposter. Do not engage.
>>81304919>I just want for us to fucking get along.>but I also support the "laws" that say you cannot post cyoas my group does not approve ofpeace is impossible
>>81304850>>81304855Oh! Haven't looked at it in awhile.
>>81304918If every single one of those anons doesn’t give a shit about the rules and instead just wants to shitpost, we’re fucked anyway. I have faith that most anons here actually enjoy cyoas and want the general’s shitpost skubwar to end.Any anon who wants that will follow the rules and ignore the shitposters who break them
>>81304916>Time was, you could dump an entire doujin and spoilers were seen a 'polite.'Better days, those.
>>81304843>Explicitly promoting loli fetish material as a moral ("anti-moralfag") agenda in an attempt to change the culture of /tg/.The entire skubwar is literally only happening in this general alone, you really don't need to worry about anything like this. /cyoag/ is not the entirety of /tg/, it's nowhere close to being /tg/.
>>81304916>If Hiro brought back /l/, either board could have a cyoag, and both could stand or fall on largely their own merit.And it would bring lolicons flocking back to 4chan, helping gatekeep every board. Having /l/ back would increase the number of lolicons here, and on /tg/ as a whole.
>>81304967>t. shitposter who never leaves /cyoag/
>>81304977>shitposterSo you know he’s a shitposter.And you still reply to him.Do. Not. Engage.
>>81304980He’s blatantly lying though
>>81304512Point 1 sounds like it contradicts 2 now that i think about it. It should be corrected.
>>81304984Yes he is, and it’s so blatant that everyone can see it. You don’t need to point it out.
>>81304980And here's where it all falls apart
>>81304985You should explain this further if you actually want meaningful change.
>>81304995yes, anons will always reply to Chaosyour rules will never stop me
>>81304932>Do not engage.The sad thing is that this could have worked just fine if you'd gone with something more like >>81304569. And that post explicitly condones lolicon, but it also defines shitposts as negative posts, which is the important part. Instead we have all these lolicon hugboxers complaining that it's "too vague", and going with >>81304512, which defines "moralfags" as bad while declaring that "Lolis are excellent for gatekeeping". "Peace" would mean no gatekeeping. You like what you like, I like what I like, we get along. That's peace. But I don't want peace, I want for you child-bride fetish faggots to feel unwelcome and take your shit elsewhere.
>>81304985If anything they sound slightly redundant to me, saying the same thing twice. No contradictions there, anon.
>>81305003>he actually bought the peace meme they're peddlingdumbass. this entire thread is ultimately just another shitpost
>>81304996Point 1 is a slight demand on having lolis on your cyoa where point 2 mentions that you shouldn't demand lolis on cyoa.
>>81305010No? They say the same thing. Demands are absolute, “slight demands” are just recommendations which are ok by both parts 1 and 2.
>>81305008I'm just naive enough to give it a try, personally. But in the end, it only takes one anon with too much time on his hands to derail another thread.
>>81305010Demanding means 100% of cyoas must have lolis. That is clearly denounced.
>>81304967>/cyoag/ is not the entirety of /tg/, it's nowhere close to being /tg/.And I'd like to keep it that way.You're right though. Occasionally over the years I'll see someone on the front page crying about how no one likes their stupid child-bride fetish. I tell them that their fetish isn't healthy, they tell me I'm a moralfag, song as old as rhyme. But now that I think about it I think that those posters were almost always in /cyoag/.
>>81305003>this could have worked just fine if you'd gone with something more like >>81304569Let me guess, that was your post?Also you go right into shitting on lolicons, how typical of you.
>>81305037Anon, please. Don’t engage. Let shitposters reply to each other, everyone will notice what they’re doing.
>>81305023>>81305016Currently the way the terms are written makes them sound biased towards one side and that seems to be causing friction on some anons and that concerns me.
>>81305043Shitposters are going to shitpost, chaosfags will attack any and all rules.And there are no “sides”, just shitposters and anons. It’s not moralfags vs lolifags, it’s shitposters vs anons (who include lolicons). Also, I think the posters who are raging over some “bias” are the posters who are the shitposters the rules are out to expressly condemn.
>>81305008Probably, but you you fail to take 100% of the olive branches you don't reach for.When the shitposting resumes in its earnest face, and the "armistice" is used as ammunition, I won't be surprised. But it would be nice if it were for real.People were talking about Autism Prison.
>>81305043because they're shitpost terms written up by someone who doesnt genuinely want peace.
>>81305037I'm the anti-loli moralfag. >>81304569 explicitly condones lolicon CYOAs, it just doesn't condone them hard enough to pacify you people.You.Are.Mentally.Ill.
>>81305059Feel free to write a correction.
>>81305042You are the worst shitposter. You aren't even talking to anyone, you're just making a noise.
>>81305069On the off chance that you aren’t a shitposter asking for some shitty shitpost variant, please don’t engage the shitposters.
Already their pitiful attempt at peace is crumbling down. Chaos reigns.
>>81305082yes my lord, the lolifags can’t help but reply to meour plan is working
>>81305075>>81304293>>81304296>>81304337>>81304932>>81304980>>81305042>>81305075Your terms have already fucking failed, just look at all the times you've had to tell others not to engage. This was a pointless exercise and I'm inclined to believe this was just another shitpost.
>>81305082PEACE WAS NEVER AN OPTION
>>81305082lolifags always have one weakness: they can’t help but reply to bait!we can foil their pathetic “peace” by making them reply to us, ruining their fun threads
>>81305099>>81305097>>81305092>>81305082>poster counts didnt increaseyup, it was a shitpost
>>81305103and a based one, chaosfags reign supreme
>>81305103We're 196 posts in, do you really think most new posts on this thread aren't going to be from somebody who made one somewhere before?
>>81305093based, the lolifags will never know another quality thread, we will ruin their hopes and dreams of a shitpost free cyoag
>>81305116You are seriously replying to one of them. How fucking stupid are you?
>>81305111Any chance you feel like ruining that joke by explaining it?
>>81305124And you’re replying to a chaoschad, get fucked.
>>81305103>tfw the peace treaty was actually just another plot by the chaosfags to cause a shitstorm
>>81305128lolifags try to make no fun moralfags be happy (aka become a lolifag), moralfag is not amused
>>81305119What about adventurefag hopes and dreams of a shitpost free cyoag? I don't care about making the lolifag inquisition unhappy, I just want them to go back to sleep. Can you do that?
>>81305130Cute happy lolis try to paint a fun smile on the depressed and dying /cyoag/?
>>81305136all of this generals problems can be traced back to lolifags. how do we get rid of them?
>>81305128People sit around every day letting the stupid lolicentric posting turn them into clowns. Pro, anti, whatever. Everyone is clowns and they just sit there letting it happen to them.
>>81305136sorry anon, in order for lolifags to experience no fun we must destroy all fun, lolifags are known to have fun with almost any cyoa
>>81305133Chaosfags are the final form of Group 2, the inhuman abominations of non-euclidian dimensions and blue chease, who will win.
>>81305133Based. Every time you see a supposed lolifag (actually a chaoschad in disguise) post those rules, ignore and report because trolling is against the rules!
>>81305148It is only natural I suppose
>>81305153>chaosfags are scorned powergamers who got sick and tired of lolifags ruining the generalBased. But what group do moralfags fall under? Group 1?
>>81305116JRPG anon is the best author
>>81304502Well this really pissed off the redditors
>>81305170Cockroaches often panic and scatter when a light is shone on them.
>>81305165They're a mix. The unironic ones who want to tear down group 4 because they think group 4 is wicked are group 1. Folks like me who get lumped into the "Moralfag" banner by others but really just wanted some fucking survival CYOAs are mostly group 3's. We literally can't die, so we'll be here a while.
>>81305174We will have to see whether this light will help stomp them out then.
>>81305179Have faith, anon, they’ll get tired eventually. And every thread, their selfsuck will get more and more ignored as they get more and more bored and do it less and less.
>>81305188I really hope so.
>>81305188I hope so.
>>81305188I hope you’re right. This “lol your peace failed” shit is annoying.
>>81305196>>81305197>>81305201As I said, have faith. These tiles shine a light on the roaches, and we will feed them less and less if we follow them. Eventually, they must starve.
>>81305212>tilesrules lol autocorrect sucks
>>81305201>This “lol your peace failed” shit is annoying.good its supposed to bei want your peace to failyou will have no fun here, not anymore
Real Euro Hours.
>>81305196>>81305197>>81305201Have faith, chaosbros. Once enough roaches have infested a building, the humans give up and move out. This generak will belong to us soon.
>>81305225>the chaosfags are eurosBased?!
>>81305227It's like the ending of SimAnt.It's beautiful.
>>81305231Actually I'm just a vampire. Means operating in Euro hours from NA.
>>81305227At that point can we finally post CYOA's and builds?
>>81304430This is fine in theory until you actually give it any amount of thought. Term 1 states you're required to include lolis whenever it suits the situation, but what if the author just doesn't want to add them even after considering it because of personal preference? Is he suddenly a shitposter as per term 5? Term 2 is contradictory. You're not allowed to demand lolis, but if he doesn't have a "good reason" for it, you're suddenly allowed to hound them? Terms 3 and 4 are plain biased. If a shitposter says they like lolis or waifus, they're suddenly exempt from being shit on? I can see this going really well.Term 5 is flawed by virtue of the rest of the others being flawed.Term 6 is far too vague. What even constitutes a "Moralfag CYOA"? That it doesn't have lolis? So powerpickers and such are suddenly shitposts? Sounds very reasonable.
Just went to r/combatfootage, way better than /k/ or /b/. We need more reddit CYOAs, I think we can learn a bit from them.
>>81305263No shit, we've already established it's a shitpost perpetuated and supported by lolifags. Watch them claim that it was "the lolifakers, not us!!!" in a few threads.
>>81305256The time will be easy to know, for all /cyoag/ will have become as the chaosbros; free and wild without morals or lolis, with quality thrown aside and all posters building and shitposting and reveling in joy. The liberated authors will give them new CYOAs to build and argue about and enjoy, and all the thread will flame with a holocaust of content and shit.
>>81305256You make it sound like someone is stopping you.
>>81305275>>81305263THEN WHY NOT DRAFT A GOOD VERSION OF IT POST A CORRECTION OR SOMETHING GOD DAMN IT
>>81305315The version that corrected those problems was soundly rejected as "vague and meaningless"The lolifags see the problem presenting peace as a lack of protection and enshrinement of lolis. Others see it as a presence of shitposters making every CYOA a factional jerkoff session. Common ground won't be found between that.
Anyone else think posting Anime High School should be a bannable offense? The thing is 82 pages long, and only gets posted as a thread killer. If someone really wants it, a link to Imgur or Image Chest would probably be acceptable. But using half the image allocation, and a fourth of the post limit, is crazy. When was the last time anyone even asked a question about it, let alone posted a build?
>>81305315Thing is, anon, a correct version would be removing everything and changing the last point to >Do not engage with shitposters, remember to ignore when you see them and report them when they inevitably break board rules. Basically, use your common fucking sense. Don't engage in the shitpost period and just post and discuss fucking CYOAs like a non-autistic faggot.
>>81305347You do realize that only the mods get to decide what is and isn't bannable right? Until someone (Likely a NEET) makes a PDF version, we'll just have to suffer with it.
>>813053151) It's OK to have lolis, waifus, monsters, societies with laws, or anything else in a CYOA2) It's OK to not have lolis, waifus, monsters, societies with laws, or anything else in a CYOA3) If you're going to ask for a CYOA to change, be fucking polite and take 'no' for an answer if that's the answer.4) If you see a shitposter, ignore them. If they break the rules, report them. Do not engage.
>>81305375Rejected, doesn't have something I can use as ammunition for shitposting.
>>81305375Is there a passionate monsterfag crowd on cyoag im unaware of?
>>81305379Figured, but it was worth a shot. Thanks for being honest about it.
>>81305383There were the monsergirl warsAnd the general spergouts about CYOAs being "too grim"The term should probably be 'hardships' but nobody's going to use the 4-point list unironically anyway.
>>81305347I have a feeling the CYOA is just a massive shitpost. All its good for is just being spammed
>>81305347Where do you draw the line, though? Lamentation? Branching Heart?Anybody damn insane enough to waste the time posting all of Anime High School played themselves, IMO.
>>81305422IIRC the author admitted he just made it for shits and giggles and decided to share it with us.
Was Branching Hearts the last great CYOA?
>>81305441We reached our peak at JRPG traitor and it was all downhill from there
>>81305441>>81305448>everyone completely forgot about Hearts Adriftsad. i havent even seen it reposted in a while.
>>81305404>monsergirl wars>Monseurgirl wars>The French Dickgirl WarsWrite it.
>>81305441It's all been downhill since the Island CYOAs
>>81305459To be fair, would you really want it reposted into this hell?It was a good one, though. Polaris actually made me fucking think.
>>81305459>Hearts Adrifti just remembered Stellinearized said he was gonna kill himself... im gonna miss him bros- oh wait his reddit account posted 2 days ago. he's still alive bros!
>>81305483>he's still alive bros!You know what, I don't care how you know that, I'm gonna count the fact a win.
>>81305483>now he posts in a gachashit subredditHe has literally fallen from grace.
>>81305459>ForgotI never did.
>>81305483It failed to commit die so it gave up on dying
>>81305459It's on my to-do list. I've just been away from my main computer for a while.
Can we at least all agree that JRPG traitor was really good?
>>81305483Not kill - retire. He wanted to ride off into the sunset on a high note.Maybe he'll come back, some day.
>>81305531You've got me with you on that. a companion in the OC I'm working on is an oblique reference to Malgold, too
>>81305531>jrpg meme>has never been posted beforegood job anon. jrpg was pretty good, a lot of its lore piggy-backed off gods of pegana though
>>81304350For a lot of us who hate lolis, the request itself is never reasonable. Imagine cooking a nice meal and someone asking if they can take a shit in it. It doesn't matter how polite you phrase it, that request is never going to be reasonable.
>>81305245I can't fucking read this
>>81305577It's not known as the worst CYOA ever made for nothing.
>>81305531Malgold was the best overlord
>>81305347>let alone posted a build?I don't think a single build has ever been made for it actually.
>>81305375Accepted it's perfect in every way.
>>81304512>1I don't like lolis, but I agree they should be here for gatekeeping.>all the other poitnsI approve the rest in general, moralfags should calm the fuck down and lolifags should not demand too much, not everyone likes what they like·
>>81304244>showersstorm shower>soapsroman soap>extrasnail clippers & hair brush>>81305347it could be compiled into a pdf alsoif i am not that lazy i could have saved all of them and had them converted into a pdf file
>>81305824>moralfags should calm the fuck downHow about YOU calm down huh?
imma need some cyoas... ASAP. ROCKY.
>>81305531Can we all agree that Lamentations was really good?
Hey, Fagalaga Dingdong, where's the CYOA you promised? You thought I would just fucking forget?
>>81304677he did fuel the shitposters with a loli cyoa
>>81305945He showed off another page of this about a month or two ago
>>81305919It was mediocre bloatware with a side of furfaggotry, anon.
Never saw this version actually being posted on /tg/ and I like it better than the one that does. It's the same except at the highest level cyborg psychopath gets heavier guns and nude stealth.
>>81306040Then we have our answer. JRPG Traitor is mediocre bloatware with a side of furfaggotry.
Latest changelog:>Updated Angel's picture, lore, and cyoaWork needed is as follows:>IncompleteAnduinBlissDSAExcelanonFumblemoreHexalbyLanguid CicadaNew ObserverPeilTextanon>Almost completeEDG (need pros and cons for the guy)nxtub (first cyoa description is a bit sparse, would be nice to have one more boon/bug/bane)Savestate (three boons, two banes)Sockminster (a boon and a bug)unDEFINED (description, more boon/bug/bane)>Haven't even startedclockworkGhost, Fox, GenieAnon, GiftedAnon, Homo author #1, Homo author #2, Homo author #3, Liminal, MaskAnon, Mithradates Excelsior, Overlord, Pallas, Quiet, RavenKing, SDA, Spadsey, Strife, TextAnon, Thoth, Thrallherd, and Tunebuggy (possibly more)
>>81305153Nah, they're group 4 larping as the other groups.The defining trait of group 2 is powergaming. I've yet to see a namefag successfully engage in any.
>>81306109This guy. This fucking guy
>>81305531JRPG Traitor was filled with sjw pandering. Shitty cyoa with the highest amount of bislut and faggot companions.Makes the betrayal too easy imo.
>>81305889See what I'm talkin about here? They're like women, tell em to calm down and they lose their fuckin minds
>>81306109Why do you do it?What's your motivation?
>>81306152>JRPG Traitor was filled with sjw panderingName at least 3 authors or even 1 that doesn't pander to SJWs.
Is the fortune cookie cyoa a work in progress , or just released weird?
>>81306152The traps are very cute
>>81306205!*!*!*!*, Apotheosis, Sandnigger, and Scientist, off the top of my head.
I don't give a fuck about the rules you niggers wrote while I was asleepThe only rule that matters is the 3 page limitIf you can't fit your CYOA onto 3 or less pages it sucks and shouldn't be played
>>81306360It's true faggot show me one good cyoa longer than 3 pages
>>81306384I dunno faggot, show me a good cyoa
>>81306351You have no right to call someone else a nigger when you can't fucking read you adhd ridden zoomer
>>81306430What didn't I read anon? Show me one post itt I didn't readThat's right you can'tRetard
>>81304210What are you guys fighting about?
>>81306415Fucking off seems like the more efficient option.
>>81306441Not what I meant fucktard, why can't you just focus on a cyoa longer than 3 pages? The best cyoas are the long ones
>>81306556Objectively untrue. The best CYOA are all short but sweet. Some particularly skilled authors can push a CYOA beyond 3 up to 5/6 and have it still be decent, but even they would admit that it's their own inability that made it take up so much space
>>81306044Wasn't there a version with even more improvements? IIRC the viking choice included weather control powers and the vampire could read minds or something
>>81306415Shitty cyoa, no narration
>>81306601This is a WIP I'm still working on final release
>>81304512Include a brief note that>2D lolis somehow = abusing real children or could somehow lead to it (citation needed)>Hyper-realistic and extreme violence in movies, games, books, etc. is awwwright, does not encourage real world violence, and could never lead to itisn't moral. Holding both those contradictory beliefs at once is a sign of, at best, a dangerously delusional and willfully ignorant individual who can't distinguish blatant fiction from reality - not to mention someone who cannot think critically about their beliefs, spot their own hypocrisies, and adjust their beliefs for the better.At worst: intentional shitposters.In both cases their posts are often indistinguishable. Report and ignore accordingly.
This thread was fucking hysterical thanks for all the laughs bros.
>>81306689That falls under the category of "moralfaggotry"
>>81305093Rome wasn't built in a single day.We are trying to fix a year worth of shitposting habits.
>>81308297>We are trying to fix a year worth of shitposting habits.By completely favoring one group and making them exempt from any and all criticism? Nice try anon.
>>81308346For the record I too think it is too onse sided it should be more broad but shutting down the entire discussion won't help change the state of the thread.
>>81308394I never said or implied to shut down discussion, what I am saying is to stop defending shitposting disguised as "Making peace".
>>81308436The thing is, I think it is a worthwhile endeavor.Even if shitposters want to use it to keep things going. We only need to iron out the kinks, like it's extreme focus on lolis or the ban on "shitpost and moralfag CYOAs" as that is my biggest contention with it, all CYOAs should be potable and discussed.
>>81308575It isn't. Just don't engage in shitposters, simple as that. You don't need some guideline or rule telling you the obvious.
>>81308695The last year kind of proves the contrary.Having some guidelines is better than expecting everyone to have common sense.
>>81308809Because most anons feed the trolls. Just remind them not to give any shitstirrers attention.
>>81304261God you pedo faggots should kill yourselves.
>>81304334Two words Anon, rape goblin: https://www.personalityforge.com/chatbot-profile.php?botID=158540
>page 10>no new threadShit is Celt sick? Could anyone check the dicksuck and see if he's ill? Maybe he overdosed on weed.
>>81305347better than a thread full of shitpostingthat anon saved us by killing it faster
>>81311015There was a thread made over 6 hours ago, searchlet.