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>Previous Thread:
>>81298852
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guess I'll just spend the next 3 years building and painting until orkz are fun again
they surely bring back green tide, get stuck in, and proper dakka rule, right? haha...
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This thread is now being GUARDED. Imperially, GUARDED.
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40k should go back to being a heavy platoon sized game, with more intricate rules for individual models. Larger scale combat that isn’t to the level of Epic amounts of troops should be done with a new 15mm scale game.
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>>81303181
Isn't that basically what Kill Team's niche is?
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>>81303197
Kill team is much smaller, single squad v squad scale.
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>>81303131
Here's the majority of my kroot, with the exception of the 12 painted carnivores who look just like the four on the table. Also included are some kroot-converted beastmen who I bashed to bump my 16 carnies into a clean 20.

I'll paint that big boy one of these days. Definitely getting my kroot green down to a science so it may be soon.
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>>81303174
>Knight painted same as your army
based
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>>81303171
Green Tide was kind of cancerous and would have been even worse with buffed Boyz

You could see the anguish in your opponent's face if they failed to COMPLETELY wipe out a Boyz mob because they knew the difference it meant for those last couple of models to survive
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>>81303227
Looks awesome, anon. The yellow animal skin cloaks compliments the green really nicely. Don’t know how you feel about this but I think some war paint on them could be cool too. Especially on the big guy, some cave painting type stuff.
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>>81303174
>that Steel Legion sniper
I need a comrade vendor from Russia/China.
I need one for Steel Legion minis and their discontinued minis.
Please, anons. I need one.
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>>81303171
Have you actually tried the 9th ed ork dex yet?
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>>81303171
Just do what I do and play old editions with friends/family.
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>>81303303
Yeah, I've been thinking about that myself. I definitely need something to break up all the green on em, especially on the mounted ones where it's real easy for rider and mount to blend into one another.
I did mess with that a bit with the leopard shaman, putting paint in his quills and on his bones. Might have some simple striping on his beak too.
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>tfw too depressed to paint
it hurts bros. at least i finished my AoS army i guess
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>>81303205
i think they mean how the "1500 point army" seems to have inflated over the years. more models for what everybody calls the average full afternoon match = more cash in gws pocket.
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>>81303339
>paint in his quills and on his bones
I noticed that, looks great. I could see a deep but subtle red working nicely with the established pallet. Definitely will be looking forward to how these develop. I’m very into my barque imperium aesthetics right now so it’s cool to see such a different project develop alongside my own.
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>>81303333
I don't believe you have any friends, enjoy your hand
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>>81303333
quads of truth
this is how a grog is born
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>>81303359
>AoS
yikes. i'd also be depressed if i was a gay retard.
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>>81303410
I've thought very hard about giving the knarlocs jurassic park red stripes over their backs.
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>>81303379
Yeah but I mean kill team is much smaller than old platoon sized 40k forces.

A 3e army would still be 5-10 squads not 5_10 infantry models.
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>>81303436
feck, i meant to reply to the person you were replying to >>81303197
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Post Iron Hands.
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>>81303434
I’d have to support that haha, sounds awesome,
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>>81303450
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>>81303174
>Steel Anon deploys a knight
Ruuuun
Oi anon, just how come the BT was fighting loyal forces? What kind of Heresy was that
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>>81303450
iron hands machine roke
we got crimson fists tho
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>>81302275
From the last thread. Should I lower the Kommandos?
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I'm going to the MT Gravatt Games workshop this afternoon to buy a squad of Tau stealth battle suits and some hobby gear. Clippers, glue etc. It will be my first real attempt at starting an army. Har some when I was a kid but sold them ages ago.
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>>81303197
No. Kill team is indiviual combat between two squad sized forces.
40k should be on average something like 30 infantry (give or take for faction) and a few support vehicles, with only one or two main battle tank type units in a force.

Such a size allows for pitches battles and vehicles, but is not horribly cramped and messy on a table. Seeing an “average Sunday game” involve each side pulling out like ten tanks and lining them up is absurd. Seeing Titans as a totally normal part of average play is really getting away from the idea of a fun little miniatures game. If it needs to be hauled around in a baby stroller, it shouldn’t be part of day-to-day play and only exist in rare events as showpieces.
War hounds and Titans and gorkanauts would be comfortable at 15mm. Having multiple main battle tanks at 15mm would be more physically manageable.
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>>81303174
Lets guard this thread
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>>81303646
yikes
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>>81303577
genuinely a waste to buy clippers and glue from GW
Random clippers from amazon are better and cheaper
glue too imo.
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>>81303577
>GW clippers
>GW glue
>GW paints
>Buying minis from GW instead of literally anywhere else and getting the automatic 15-20% discount

Truly you are the paypiggo
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>>81303515
>>81303563
nice
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>>81303667
Really? I was going to try stick to the brand. Plus I would rather but them now than wait for postage
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>>81303174
You're not truly guarded, until Eisenfaust shows up.
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>>81303692
Why do you hate GW?
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>>81303696
Are you serious right now?
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>>81303696
Just hit up any hardware store on the way back from the GW and grab some glue and clippers there.
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>>81303701
>Something about thining your paints
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>>81303709
their clippers and other tools suck ass.
revell contacta is best glue imo, with the needle tube.
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>>81303416
At this point, I've basically just written my own data sheets and core rules. Fuck GW.
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>>81303709
All their hobby supplies are overpriced. If you buy their models from anywhere but the official GW stores, they are 15-20% less. There is no reason to buy straight from GW you are automatically throwing away 15-20%.
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>>81303701
I love and hate him
>>81303174
Sanctioned psikers are your friends too
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>>81303450
Man, you come right out of a comic book.
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>>81303646
That Krieger on horseback is amazing! 10/10
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>>81303738
What do you hate about him? I know my camera work sucks.
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>>81303726
oh but anon, all the new sniggers got better rules and benefit off nerfs compared to the other units (read: what you have already)! this is such good balance and definitely not kikery by your friends at Games Workshop (TM)
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>>81303740
I love that he has a name and a silly loadout
Love the the goofy camo
Hate the 300% thick paint
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>>81303450
>>81303694
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>>81303771
Octarius was my last GW purchase, I hope.
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>>81303792
THICC
>>81303739
:D
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>I love that he has a name and a silly loadout
Love the the goofy camo
Hate the 300% thick paint
Meant for
>>81303757

>>81303740
Thanks, the horse is called "number 12" he has outlived the last 12 company commanders
The current company commander hqs no name
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>>81303803
I might buy some cool models here and there, assuming they can still make them what with monopose boyz of all things making it through their qa team
as far as the game goes though, I guess its time to grog it up
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>>81303827
My painting is only midwit tier.
His load out, I'm sick of the codex, I went with something fun. I'll just make something up, I'm done with tourneys.
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>>81303874
Just thin you paints a little and dump some agrax earthshade on him and he will look great
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>>81303567
Weird list, not sure I hate it though. Kommandos with rokkits seems like a mistake. Seems like you also won't have much else to camp objectives with, which makes the distraction grots questionable. Might be better, if you really want some kitted out kommandos, to drop down to just one squad of 10 with toys and then have 2 min-size squads, though with outrider/patrol that'll mean one would have to move over to the snakebites detachment which loses them obsec so maybe not a definite move.

Not sure why you made the weirdboy your warlord instead of BOSS HOSS MOZROG. Save yourself some CP and Mozrog->warlord, free relic->nob on smasha and keep the weirdboy plain. Gitbonez and he won't even be casting any witchfire powers, lol... In fact I don't think a weirdboy is even a good play with that list. A wurrboy would be p good instead honestly, spirit of gork those hog boyz and they have better witchfire powers to boot, if you really want dem bonez
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What are some good bits to use to make Word Bearers feel a bit more Word Bearery?
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>>81303913
Books, candles, sculpted fire.
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How does one explain Krieger, Mordian or Catachan conscripts? How did these clowns leave their so-called top class PDFs to go fight in another war in which better troops are needed? Are they just other lads who got picked up by the regiments along the way to the next battlefield?
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>>81303701
I'll bite that this is unironically yours and not joke painted.
First AAAAA thicc. Kinda hard to tell if he's even primed, which might be a related issue.
Next, there is no shading. Don't need to be a master of layers to have passable shading, but needs something. Simple stuff: Paint the metal areas black first then drybrush/layer on metallic on top to give it some depth. The black gasmask box can be paitned grey and washed with black. The gasmask house needs a brown wash at least.
Last, color choices. His helmet, coat, and pants are all identically colored. Needs differentiation. Say put the goofy camo entirely on his helmet. Evokes WW1 style German helmet camo as a bonus. Making the paints grey or tan helps give the coat some shape. The gasmask, why is it painted as if its made of metal? Should be painted like leather or rubber in a brown, white, or other non-metal color except for the connection points which are metal.
Base needs more texture. Especiall needs dirt buildup around the skull so it looks more buried in mud and not a skull plonked onto a base
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>>81303726
As long you're having fun, anon.
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I'm currently working on a new version of that old Dark Heresy quickref site except also adding all the weapons from compatible RPGs like Black Crusade. Check it out at some point if you want.

https://heresyexpanded.xyz/index.html
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>>81303125
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>>81304052
>'e downloaded?
>activate eet
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>>81304099
no no NO NOT THE KEYLOGGERS AAAA
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>>81303900
The Wurrboy is on the Kill Rig, Should I bring another one?
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>>81303715
What wrong with buying GW?
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>>81303900
that pic is the definition of SOVL
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>>81303940
Child soldiers
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>>81303900
That swift wolves icon is fucking adorable.
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Imperial Knights should not be its own faction and should just be individual units you can soup into any Imperium faction, prove me wrong
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>>81304322
I would agree, but wouldn't that mean they lose the House Benefits, Freeblade Qualities and Burdens?
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>>81304322
I would also like a return to 2018 Castellan meta.
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>>81304322
And deathwatch and grey knights should be rolled into one Codex inquisition. With Sisters of battle as a troops for Ordo Hereticus
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>>81304395
Inquisition shouldn't be an army.
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>>81304412
I disagree
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>>81304395
Space Marines should be just a single unit of tacticals any imperial army can choose to field as Elites.
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>>81304322
GSC should be just a single troop unit of hybrids.
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>>81304422
With a max unit size of 5
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>>81303940
PDF from the planet being fought over.
You do realise recruitment is done via the Munitorum and conscription doesn't leave the world they're conscripted from, right?
And you have read 15 hours or something similar and realised new recruits in the Guard are basically PDF most of the time, right?
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>>81304444
>new recruits in the Guard are basically PDF most of the time
>most of the time

Go ahead and prove this statement.
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>>81303567
>>81303900
Last one before bed.
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>>81304322
Yes, they are several units anyone can add
Which makes sense to put in a book of their own
And then once you've done that why wouldn't you just add a few rules to let them be played on their own
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>>81304212
Generally their tools have shitty grips.
Smooth metal, not a rubber handle sleeve, a basic crosshatches grips texture, not even a cheap grippy coating.
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>>81304501
>Which makes sense to put in a book of their own
No? That's a scam to make you pay for the fucking thing.
Put an "imperial mercenaries" section in the other books. Save some ink and my pocketbook.
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>>81303567
will obsec not be an issue with the lack of troops?
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>>81304537
The DeathSkulls traits are INFANTRY units with this kultur gain the Objective Secured ability.
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>>81304515
Adding a big section of Knights to the back of every Imperial book would unironically cost more ink and cost you more money as GW decides to charge you more for the bigger book wether you're planning on using Knights or not
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>>81304551
ah cheers. I'm an ork brainlet
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Grey Knights have Thousand sons geneseed
Blood Ravens have Word Bearers geneseed
Obviusly GW will never confirm it because "Muh mystery!" but the clues are there
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>>81304444
>4QUAD
So it's essentially what my last question was? What do you mean the conscription does not leave the planet, then? Did you mean to say that they're(the planet's fighting PDF) essentially just given the uniforms then told you're "X" regiment now while their other more closest conscripts are just back home training?
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I've got some ryza pattern ruins to paint, what's a good color for them?
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>>81303696
listen to the guy saying to get the clippers from a hardware store, way better quality and selection, getting clippers at he is like grocery shopping at a gas station
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>>81304578
I do all my shopping at the gas station
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What the hell happened here? This is an official promo image for the munitorum crates on the webstore.
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>>81304704
Painters are on a timer/don't give a fuck
They had the landing skids wrong on the Stormraven for the longest time, and for a while it was a 50:50 chance that someone installed the heavy bolters upside down on a leman russ.
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>>81304570
but what if the Blood Ravens have II/XI Geneseed from after the survivors joined the Ultras and the Word Bearers?
Also Minotaurs are IW Geneseed,
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>>81304704
>>81304759
pic
Never forget that they had to cancel that one entire Admech book because someone dropped the mold for the new model.

This company does not deserve your money.
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>>81304759
Kinda cool that GW has employee Take Your Kids To Work days though
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>>81304570
Grey knights are formed from a mix of traitor legion loyalist. Its unspecified but their geneseed is likely chimeric mix of them all. Which is why gk don't display any traits distinct to any particular lineage.

Blood ravens hints pointed more at thousand sons than word bearers.
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>>81304772
Worse that it's just one skid. Would have looked ok if it was both matching at least
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>>81304772
>Never forget that they had to cancel that one entire Admech book because someone dropped the mold for the new model.
They what?

What was it?
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>>81304802
Fires of Cyraxus
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>>81304322
Imperial knights should not be available outside of large games or apocalypse.
Custodes should be single model you take in an imperial list like assassins.
Kroot should get their own codex.
There should be a renegades and heretics codex.
Genestealers should go back to how they were originally and be seperate from tyranids, expand on GSC as their own thing and give tyranids a replacement for genestealers that's more like a brood of miniature/immature lictors.
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>>81304772
Wasn't fires canceled because Bligh dying
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>>81304825
Oh shit i forgot about that.
What mini was it
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>>81304827
>Imperial knights should not be available outside of large games or apocalypse.
based
>Custodes should be single model you take in an imperial list like assassins.
based
>Kroot should get their own codex.
Just the opposite. There should be more minor races under the Tau banner. The whole idea of Tau originally was to be a multiracial type federation of minor races, under the control of Tau.
>There should be a renegades and heretics codex.
Just make a bigger, more flexible CSM codex that allows renegade gaurd focused forces
>Genestealers should go back to how they were originally and be seperate from tyranids, expand on GSC as their own thing and give tyranids a replacement for genestealers that's more like a brood of miniature/immature lictors.
Nah. Nah.
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>>81304841
Plastic Thunderhawk
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>>81304570
Stop, you are gonna make him cry
https://reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/pnijh2/no_the_blood_ravens_are_not_all_but_confirmed/
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>>81304786
They got no flesh change neither dustification. And word of god said no.
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>>81304852
>The whole idea of Tau originally was to be a multiracial type federation of minor races, under the control of Tau.

Nope. They made that up AFTER failing to make a hard decision between Tau and kroot and stuffed them both into the same book.
Not a shock that one of them got sidelined.
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>>81304852
>There should be more minor races under the Tau banner
There should, but that ship has sailed and now all tau are is big stompy robots. That's what the tau audience wants, thats what the people at the top in gw want them to be. They'll never expand on the auxiliaries so may as well free the kroot. They were originally going to be a faction on their own and when it came time to decide in teh studio which new xenos they were going to keep, tau and kroot were the 2 final choices, and they liked both enough to merge them under one banner. Kroot as a concept are strong enough to stand on their own.
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>>81304873
Kroots are cool, I would like that they were a standalone faction
More xenos would be better
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>>81304873
Originally as presented at release. Can't unring that bell, best thing is to lean into it. Tau as HQ and some elites. Kroot and other ayy lmaos as various other units under a shared banner
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>>81304898
>Can't unring that bell, best thing is to lean into it.
Good thing you're not in charge of the brand. See >>81304885
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>>81304888
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>>81304872
>They got no flesh change neither dustification.
Of course they don't, they weren't around when the rubricae was cast.
They're successors with the gee seed not a continuation of the Tsons
>And word of god said no.
Who and when.
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>>81304885
>Kroot as a concept are strong enough to stand on their own.
Yes. Bring a codex Kroot and make a keyword so they can be allied in the same army.
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>>81304885
>Kroot as a concept are strong enough to stand on their own.
>scrawny cannibalistic orks
>strong enough to stand on their own
lol

only way Kroot work is as a mercenary army that can be plugged into any <XENOS> list, same way the only way Inquisition "army" works is by plugging into any <IMPERIUM> list.
try making Kroot their own thing and they'll only suffer the GSC treatment. A bunch of characters, some tonka trucks, and a codex that never updates.
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>>81304906
Oh, I mean if I was going to put my "If I was actually a GW exec and just wanted to make money at all costs" hat on, I'd just suggest releasing new Primaris shits at at +10% cost over existing boxes.
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>>81304937
>a codex that never updates
It happens with non imperium factions. Look at chaos space marines FFS
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>>81304937
You not knowing jack shit about kroot because you're a lazy nigger retard doesn't mean they don't work, anon.
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>>81304872
I already told you last time, it is strongly implied that blood ravens do indeed have flesh change. Read the short story in their 8th ed white dwarf index.
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>>81304897
They don't even give the xenos the have enough support. Why would we need another faction for GW to ignore?
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>>81304957
And you've done zero to convince me they would work. Well done.
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>>81304960
Read it. Nothing about flesh change FUCK OFF
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>>81304960
>>81304924
Word of god. Its ADB but none of the cited sources have disproved it.
https://m.imgur.com/3A7W9AA
So it CANT be flesh change
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I need cheap/decently priced alternatives for Chimeras
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I love how this general has two sides
the
>I want more niche armies they're cool!!
side
and then the
>why isn't my niche army getting updated??
side
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>>81304981
Daddy chill
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>>81304990
ADB is a known hypocrite, his word is worthless.
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>>81304998
They share the same base:
>Stop giving imperium all the spotlight!
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>>81303302
To be fair orks didnt get fucking buffed they went up 2 points since 8th and lost 1 attack and mob rule is shit now meaning you actually have to take morale tests all for useless T5 and the actual needed vs space marines -1 ap choppers
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>>81304981
Post the story then for all to see that there is no mention of the flesh change.
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>>81304990
>Its ADB but
lol
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>>81305011
Yes. But neithet the head IP, BL loremaster, and no editor said this retard is wrong
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
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>>81304994
Tamiya sells cheap Bradleys
be advised: historicals will always look out of place
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>>81304885
Tau robots aren't stompy though.
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>>81303583
Knights and gorkanaughts are perfectly fine if theres like 3 or 4 tops in a 1500-2000 point game but titans should not even be allowed at all in any capacity in normal 40k nobody wants to deal with a 50 wound 200" range army obliterater gigantic fucking model it's just not fit for the scale
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>>81305050
uh
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>>81305048
Not saying something is wrong is not a proof of that something being right.
For example, I am currently not providing you with evidence that the moon is not made of cheese. That doesn't automatically mean that the moon is made of cheese, does it now?
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>>81305061
Why are you explaining argumentation to an ESL?
His brain was not made for rational thought.
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>>81303583
Wouldn't that just be Combat Patrol?
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>>81305056
But it has no big legs just tiny chicken legs and no fists to punch things
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Is Drukhari shooting stronger than Drukhari melee?
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>>81305061
Neither an adhominemn. For what is worth, its word of god even if you dont like it.
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>>81305026
They went up 1 point, they were 8 in CA and now they're 9

They used to get an extra attack for being 20+ but now they get an extra attack for two turns of the game regardless of unit size, and it's easy to get them hitting on 2+ now

And fuck you tards who want to actually pretend that T5 isn't a big buff in itself, no better way to make yourself come across like an Orktober whiny bitch
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>>81305017
Seems fair enough. SM players are the worst part of the game.
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>>81305050
You know what the fuck I mean
old tau were about combined arms, their biggest mechs were standard battlesuits, and they sued a combination of mobile infantry, long range armor, air support, and auxiliaries to fill the gaps with fairly modern and sensible tactics, to contrast the imperium and their strategy of meat grinder ww1 infantry backed up by fuckoff huge death machines. Now all the major tau releases are fuckoff huge death machines and their old style is completely gone.
just another victim of modern 40k.
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>>81305126
>the overarching theme of the galaxy corrupting the Tau and turning them into a second, more horrifying, Imperium
>somehow a product of the last few years

Were you here in 5th edition? I don't think so.
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>>81305056
>CBT
I like that
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>>81305161
If you like CBT wouldn't you prefer dark eldar?
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>>81305152
late 5th ed? I stopped playing for a few years halfway into 5th because that edition fucking sucked and if that's when they changed tau that just adds to my idea that 5th is when 40k started to be shit and never stopped.
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>>81305095
ADB being a hypocrite isn't an ad hominem. It is relevant to his trustworthiness as a source. If he publicly lied before then he can publicly lie again.
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>>81305049
I'm not the biggest fan of the Bradley. I was thinking more a 6x6 or 6x8 or something.

>>81305183
What does Dark Eldar have to do with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
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>>81304852
that image. What the fuck. if you can measure out distances in however small increments you want then why the fuck are movements in circles, I thought the point was to limit the number of incremental moves you can make, if not then WHY THE FUCKING CIRCLES
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>>81305048
>>81305061
>>81305068
>>81305095
Laurie Goulding confirmed what ADB said. The fucking Lost Fleet returned in the Crimson King and Ardiva or whoever he is named became Janus. There is no connection. It was all removed.
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>>81305105
With 8 points they were overcosted. Now with 9 points its ok, but orks now field lots of undercosted buggies
I can undestand it, cause at the moment dark eldar and admech are greatly undercosted and its the only way to have a chance to these armies
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>>81305105
Also -1 ap choppas
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are assault intercesstors good?
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>>81305216
Best guess is that at one point the game used actual proprietary measurement systems and tools ala SW: Legion but that they watered it down and eventually just made it align with inches out of fear of alienating players who would want to use their measuring tapes: What we ended up with in the final product is the vestigial remains of what that system probably once was.
And of course they kept it in some capacity because it's just one more useless accessory they can trick new players into thinking they need to buy.
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>>81305259
What chapter? They're pretty good in general, but some chapters can make them even better.
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>>81305274
i was thinking about making them imperial fists. thanks for the input anon I think the 3rd issue of imperium is released today and comes with them.
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>>81304990
>just some author saying shit.

Oh so nothing cannon then.

So blood ravens can keep being unconfirmed Tyson's successors
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>>81305305
They don't really gel with fists since you want to shoot bolters at stuff, but can be a nice cheap coutercharge unit if you give the sarge a powerfist or splurge on a thunder hammer.
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>>81305274
>SM are like Orks because if you paint them a different colour they magically do different things
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>>81305321
See >>81305226
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>>81305330
All factions do different things if you paint them a different color. Was that supposed to be a gotcha comment?
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>>81305322
cheers
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>wake up
>eldar still exist
>day ruined
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>>81305438
Aeldari*
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How do you test your paint schemes? I've only got a limited amount of orks from my snagga set and don't want to mess up a model. Am I over thinking it?
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>>81305460
You can strip a model easily, plenty of solutions for that.
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I having a hard time thinking about why would I ever want 10 plague marines for 210 points when when I can get a deathshroud MSU + 11 poxes for the same points and get more bodies and more resilience.
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>>81305460
I imagine the model in my mind and then paint it how I envisioned it
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>>81305216
Some marketing retard probably decided that number are too confusing for new player and demanded that shapes be used oblivious to the fact that just makes things needlesly convoluted.
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>>81305533
>Marketing taking bad decisions
It isnt the first time and wont be the last time this happens
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>>81305473
You and everyone else, plague marines (more specifically their wargear) are stupidly overcosted, it's a shame too since they're really great models
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>>81305460
paint.net load in a snap and add layers with the multiply setting.
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>>81305560
And poxwalkers are too cheap
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>>81304858
fucking what? I assume it would cost a fucktonne, but still cheaper than the resin thunderhawk. the only way this could make me more angry is if I found out it was someone from the legal department who was handling the mold "to see what all this model stuff is about" and dropped it.
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how do you check if a spry pain can is okey to use on models. I just did a test run on 5 intercessors, and I am very glad, I didn't do the entire army, because the models started to melt partially. Is there like logo or badge saying "X can is safe for plastic".
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Do less samefagging. Your conversations are boring.
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>>81305470
Does it not damage the model if you strip it? Even if you do it repeatedly?
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>>81305575
>how do you check if a spry pain can is okey to use on models
Test on a piece of sprue.
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>>81305575
Snip off a piece of the sprue and test it on that.
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>>81305572
It is not just that. Why would you take PMs, when for not a lot more points you can get terminators. And the rest of the list auto fills itself with obligatory characters, contemptors and blight mortars demon dudes.
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God I love this model, no idea how the hell I am doing to store it though.
Is it actually any good in game?
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>>81305126

Big "miniatures" sell more and people pay more for them. This explains the Tau and the scalecreep. Literally that is all. Lore comes after.
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>>81305585
>>81305588
fuck. now I feel stupid. But live and learn. Thanks you for the quick and on point advice.
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>>81305584
Depends on what you use and how long you leave the minis in. Some things are more aggressive than others and can strip a thin layer of paint and primer in a matter of hours, some things will straight up melt plastic or resin (acetone for example) and can only be used for metal, some can be left alone for days and not damage the mini at all.
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>>81305584
Depends on the model material and stripping agent.

Resin minis may break during the cleaning process and doesn't' react equally well to all "safe" cleaning agent.

Plastic models can take light scrubbing and will happily sit in in alcohol, brake fluid, lye soap, anything short of acetone really.

Metals models you can clean with anything.

Biggest issue with strippign is if small flakes of paint stays stuck in small gaps and may build up to obstruct details.
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>>81305572
Nah poxwalkers are fine.
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>>81305591
If you don't glue it to the base should be alright. Just a matter of getting a large enough container some foam to line it with.
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>>81305560
I don't think they're overcosted as much as they don't have a place in armies. Their cost reflects how good they are in melee but DG has 10 god tier melee threats already. If their shootiness was better (for example if their bolters were plague weapons) and the blightlauncher was a bit cheaper I think they'd see use in shooter builds. But 21 points for 2 bolter shoots isn't worth it, and the terminators are already melee machines.
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>Boomer: I've got my Space Marine army. It has scouts, tactical marines, assault marines, and a Captain to lead them
>Zoomer: This is my Adeptus Astartes list with primaris reivementor light garvorx, incallin heavy dementors armed with gravity loaded vitrumite boltex carbines, and lead by a Warhammer+ limited edition Primaris Rubicon Holy Captainus with an anti gravity buttepleg special wargear option
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>>81305595
I know, but I hate it
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>>81305226
>Laurie Goulding confirmed
lmao

It's hilarious to me that ADB still seethes about blood ravens.
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>>81305573
Hes memeing. GW weren't going to release a plastic thunderhawk.

It would have been some admech thing. Since fires was atobe an admech focused book. Rumoured to have given 40k admech access to 30k units
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>>81305655
>Adeptus Astartes
>limited edition models
>newer op units
Listen kid, those things have been in 40k since the 1st edition, Rogue Trader
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>>81305591
I hate this ugly thing
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>>81305686
turned your tabletop game into a gacha, nothin personnel kid
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>>81305443
*knife-eared cum dump
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>>81305700
If the models in these were stronger than regular marines you might have a point
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>>81305700
Not a gacha if you bought the boxes that gave you all the distinct SM heroes models like I did :^)
marinefag paypig and loving it
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>>81303450
Iron within brudda!
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>>81305733
>posts nothing
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>>81305742
Into the fires of battle, unto the Anvil of War, Sons of Medusa!
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>>81305611
>Resin minis may break during the cleaning process
What the fuck? I have nothing but resin minis and have never snapped a part.
Assume you're talking about snappage. Plastic-safe cleaners are general resin-safe, or at least, the ones at the hardware store are.
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>>81305778
Post your army of resin figures.
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>>81305742
Cheeky as fuck.
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>>81305778
Stuff like swords and the like can break, but thats usually if you are hamhanding it
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>>81305742
Love that servo skull
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Is>>81305744
Adepta Sororitas have soup?
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>>81305693
Why anon? I think it looks cool.
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>>81305789
No. The Sisters are forbidden from eating soup.
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>>81305789
Yes, every Tuesday as mandated
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>>81305789
>>81305800
SoB subsist on the cum harvested from male worshipers.
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>>81304990
The tweet provided doesn't state that they cannot be Thousand Suns, only that the authors were told to keep it open because too many of them were treating it as a fact. Therefore, if you had to pick the most likely Legion to be descended from then surely it would still be Thousand Sons because the writers thought that to be the case and wrote with that in mind.
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SoB are made for big ork cocksquigs
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>>81305807
>tfw another 16 hour shift of the SoB Cum Farms
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>>81305831
>mfw zinc supplements kick in
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>>81305831
All it takes is one to sneak in and you have a whole preceptory of willing broodmares
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>>81305126
Man this kind of artwork is what made me get into 40k in the first place.
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>>81303646
Lets thin your paints
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>>81305839
Reminder that GSC Sisters are 100% canon, with one holding a position almost as sacred as the cult's Patriarch.
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>>81305876
I was around when tau were introduced and the controversies. Yeah, I always liked it too. Yeah, their aesthetic is different than the rest of the factions...because each faction has a unique aesthetic. Was always a weird complaint, like people wanted them to look like the IoM or something.
I was also fine with their relatively "good guy" status. I don't think it conflicted with 40k at all because every time the Tau tried to take the moral high road and do honorable diplomacy they've get their shit pushed in. The only way they could advance their goals was resorting to combat or underhanded means. Exposure to the wider galaxy was giving this nice, naive star trek race constant black eyes and demonstrating why there is only war in 40k.

I know since then they've slightly been shifted into the creepy homogeneous and brainwashed society, but I truly liked them as a race that started out good and was becoming more like the rest of the universe slowly over time.
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>>81305906
When did this happen?
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>>81303315
Filtered
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>>81303171
>guess I'll just spend the next 3 years building and painting until orkz are fun again
my dread mob/kult of speed are pretty fun, even without running full buggy cancer lists
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>>81303171
Take your nerfs like a man
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>>81305976
A short story by Peter Fehervari, which acts as a prelude to his Cult of the Spiral Dawn novel. One of the characters is an infected Sister of Battle. She acts as a kind of cult saint or high matriarch, a link by which the Patriarch communicates with the rest of his children, leading them in battle and prayer alike. It's noted she also bore and raised several other high-ranking cult members.
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>>81305700
I actually really like shit like this. Not the fact that it was a very limited run and people now sell them for absurd amounts, but having unique sculpts for just regular dudes that don't actually affect the game in any way is neat. Thanks to recasters they'll always be available too.

The fact that you could just buy them all straight up also makes me less annoyed about gacha.
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If a GSC subverts a planet, calls the tyranids but no hive fleet answers because their original hive fleet was destroyed in a gruesome battle, what would do the cult?
Keep in the planet trying to summon a vanished hive fleet?
Expand to more planets and even systems?
Evolve away from tyranids?
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>>81306029
They were like elite bodyguards and figureheads then?
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>>81305700
weren't the sm heroes the last non-gk manlet minis?
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Reminder that ork boyz are MADE FOR sitting on objectives in MSU. Unironically, Ork boyz are better with Shootas
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>>81306058
>Expand to more planets and even systems?
This one.
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>>81305700
I am willing to tolerate gacha stuff for warhammer because it means we get unique sculpts.
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>>81306058
Pretty sure they only have a rise up gamers moment when they know the hive fleet is near. But if it was somehow repelled after that there are multi-planet cults so they'd probably just spread.
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how bad are storm guardians? I know they are bad but I love my little milita eldar chainswords and my army is mostly melee focused and massed banshees so id like some others in thier as well.

tldr I know storm guardians are bad but how terrible are they?
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>>81306058
I believe their psychic energy will draw in any 'nid fleet, not just the one they were spawned from. Like any religion, they'll just keep talking about how one day their gods will arrive, just keep the faith. They'll likely spread as much as possible, though with a planet violently taken over one hopes their cover is blown and the imperial and planetary navies try to blow them out of the sky as much as possible. Eventually A tyranid fleet will wander by if the planet isn't exterminatus'd first.
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People are correct about whining about the monopose boys, but I wonder if there is any point since no one will be using them anymore for anything but MSU on objectives
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>>81306113
There's more groups interested in 40k than waacfags
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>>81306113
It's still optimal to have units kitted entirely for shooting or entirely for melee, especially in small units
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>>81305438
Give me a hand here!
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>>81304827
>Genestealers should go back to how they were originally and be seperate from tyranids, expand on GSC as their own thing and give tyranids a replacement for genestealers that's more like a brood of miniature/immature lictors.
Horrific take, the rexent interplay and elaboration on tyranid and genestealer relationships are top tier.
By separating them you are making both worse.
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>>81306058
Given enough time another hivefleet will come if the genestealers original parent fleet is lost.
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>>81306029
Oh that's cool. I'll have to try get my hands on it.
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>>81306113
I models and paint orks for fun, not to sit on objectives. If they're all monopose, that ruins the fun. I can still convert them, sure, but it's extra effort on my part to undo and fix the bullshit mistakes of GW.
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Has anyone actually tried out post Codex boyz spam and reported back?
I was using MSU stuff to support dreads and buggies in the first place so I don't have the numbers required to run it anyway, but I'm curious as to exactly how bad it is; I know morale would be a big issue but haven't seen any examples of battle reps etc
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>>81306170
Regular Codex only just came out
Hasn't been much time yet
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>>81306170
Given that orks are no longer quasi-immune to morale, it's pretty bad. It could be ofset by the fact that the morale phase is no longer as punishing, but that doesn't stop ork boyz from vanishing.
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>>81306170
>Has anyone actually tried out
hahahaha
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>>81306170
My question is, why are buggies even that good? Sure, the no-sight mortars by squig launchers are decent, but almost all ork buggies are squishy as fuck, with a T6 and a 4+ save
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>>81306182
The new orks codex was already in the megas, probably its been already tested
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>>81306182
sure but it was all leaked/released in pre orders before that, some tournaments even let people play them
>>81306197
I get that, I just haven't seen anyone actually try it out in reality
>>81306218
>My question is, why are buggies even that good?
undercosted and punch above their weight and pretty hard to kill if you're not using proper anti tank thanks to ramshackle. And they're cheap enough that you can just spam them and overwhelm a lot of armies anti tank potential
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>>81303701
>painting your minis with tv static
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>>81306218
They're good because they're being taken in large numbers which usually outdoes the amount of anti-tank a usual army takes.
Then ramshackle protects them against the non-dedicated anti tank stuff
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>>81303227
I love the kroot trex, any idea where I could get one since fw doesn't sell any more?
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>>81306049
the only problem was they made the terminator set only truly usable in deathwing armies

Not a huge problem but a little annoying.
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>>81306257
Based on what, the wargear selection?
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>>81306197
So ork players are complaining that their army has to deal with morale? Eh, I guess that's reasonable. Losing special rules or having them changed always sucks, whether it's for the better or for the worst. The reanimation protocols change, for example. Super good for competitive lists. Absolute feces for lists with multiwound models.
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Can any Imperial bro here gimmie the length/width/height measurements of a Chimera please? I'm looking for alternatives and I want one that matches as much as possible.
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>>81306269
Yeah. There's only two storm bolter+fist marines, and no sergeant with a power sword. Solvable with conversions but also a shame they're not a legal unit when the plague marines and tactical marines are.

With deathwing you can mix assault terminators and regular/heavy weapon terminators and give the sergeant whatever gear you want. And, granted, everyone who wants to play terminators should be playing deathwing already, regardless of chapter.
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Where the fuck do I find assembly instructions for the Repulsor Executioner?

My chinkshit yoy showed up today and I can't find assembly instructions for the executioner anywhere.
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>>81306273
Height to what?
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>>81306297
First google result. https://amp.reddit.com/r/WarhammerInstructions/comments/gajkfd/primaris_repulsor_instructions
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>>81305796
'E turned 'imself into a pickle.
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>>81306076
Just mix shootas/choppas like a chad.
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>>81306304
The complete height, bottom to top. And the height of the turret by itself that would be great too.
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are blood angels okay in the meta right now? i really wanted to try them out since i like their lore and melee oriented playstyle
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>>81306273
I measured in inch about 3.5 width 4.5 length and about 2 height without turret and 2.5 with
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>>81306325
Yes, what are you considering the top?
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There is so much trim there is almost no room for the lightning.
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>>81306340
Probably the part opposite whatever touches the ground you fucking ponce
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>>81306307
Look I'm not going to call you a retard because I'm the one here begging. But thats not an executioner, retard.

Already found that, but was hoping to find one with the instructions for the executioners turret and all its extra options, is aight I'll just glue shit together and hope I dont get my dick stuck in a toaster.
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>>81306339
Thanks bro.

>>81306340
not you, ya bottom :)
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>>81306350
It's all the same shit shit my negro!
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>>81306350
bro the turret is like 2 pieces, and if you need instructions to tell you where the barrel goes you're beyond helping
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>want to collect GSC
>remember the price
help

>captcha WM40K
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>>81303197
Nope Kill team is about a new trademarked lenguage with polygons.
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>>81303646
What went wrong on the models on the left? The Death Rider Commander looks good, and so does the guys on the right.
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>>81306350
Email GW customer services, they'll send you a pdf for one usually in a day or two. I did that to get instructions for my Ravager when all I could find online was Raider. You don't need to provide any evidence of proof for non-forgeworld purchases. You can find the email address on their Contact Us page of the GW website.
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>>81304827
>Genestealers should go back to how they were originally and be seperate from tyranids
Fuck off with this meme. Genestealers were Tyranids before 2nd edition even came out.
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anyone know a good base paint for orange/saffron buddhist-y robes? was thinking of using citadel jokaero but open to ideas
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>>81303646
is the napoleon krieger a 3rd party STL?
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>>81306424
Mix a tad bit of brown with troll slayer then use troll slayer for the highlights.
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>>81306366
bro the barrel is 2 pieces,
the turret assembly

And yeah I don't absolutely need it, I know its not rocket science, but I was curious

>>81306398
Cheers
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>>81306076
Who gives a fuck about the "best way" to run something
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also whats a better base type for a orange-purple-grey scheme, snowy or sandy
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>>81306485
depends how bright the purple and orange are.
The brighter the mini is the more I'd lean to a subdued brown/grey sand

if the mini is largely dark snow probably
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>>81306456
WAACfags think they're welcome here for some reason.
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took a break from dark elves in space to paint some light elves in space
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>>81306503
im doing bright orange and a more muted/darker purple (for genestealer cultists) and grey and black for smaller shit
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>>81304704
>crates have two stormbolters
>purely for decoration, cannot be utilised

>>81304772
I'm confused. What is wrong here?
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>>81306552
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>>81306287
Please don't make me remember this. in 8th at least all termintors sucked. As a GK player I hate the fact that 3, if not 4 other factions go to termintors that people actually want to use. While ours got worse
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>>81306552
>crates have two stormbolters
>purely for decoration, cannot be utilised
Did cities of death have rules for them? I forget
Just house rules it with your friends
Yes you are using a storm bolter but you are wide open
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>>81306343
Yep, they work much better in heresy nl.
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Is there anything stopping these boys from deepstriking within 9'', using Temporal Surge, getting a 5'' move and tearing my unit a structurally superfluous new behind?
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>>81306606
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>>81306645
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>>81306645
You cant move after a reposition/deepstrike. Maybe read the rules.
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>>81306645
Can it be used after deepstriking? In 8th the CSM psychic power to move again was FAQed to be unusable in deepstriking units.
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>>81305077
No it would be like old 3rd and 4th edition "1500 Points"
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>>81306653
BRUVVA
HELP ME BRUVVA
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>>81306682
Wheres this on?
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Was there ever a GSC transfer sheet?
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>>81306683
The old Sallies storepage header
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>>81306653
This needs to be updated, I've seen a lot of models in 3d view with bits and pieces snapped off.
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>>81306669
>>81306665
Here's all the rule says. There hasn't been an FAQ for that Codex yet
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>>81305906
>>81306029
Isn't this retarded and nonsensical though? Worshipping tyranid hive fleets undermines their faith and woship in the emporer? Wouldn't they get immediately called out, and/or get torn to shreads if deployed against heretical psykers without effective hymns? This is like the level of retarded of saying a CSM was able to infilitrate GKs, or a Deathwatch kill team has a pet squig as a mascot? SoB faith is what makes them SoBs and you can't fake that?
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>>81306704
It's in the core rules, friend.
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>>81306697
Just take the pic and update it by yourself.
Do you need social validation or somenthing?
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>>81306616
still not sure if GK termies and purifiers just suck, or if GK interceptors are just way too OP
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>>81306711
Doesn't sound like that applies to units deep-striking on to the battlefield. They're not repositioning or replacing, they're entering the battlefield for the first time.
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>>81306645

Cant deepstrike and move
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So putting the polygon autism aside for the moment, is Kill Team actually a decent game?
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>>81306738
Ask in it's thread anon
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>>81306729
Same thing
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>>81303583
You can’t even run but a Wathound Titan in a 2,000 point game, the cheapest one starts at 2,000 I think.
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>>81306731
>>81306669
>>81306665
Thank god. That had me pretty spooked.
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>>81303583
No one plays Titans in normal matched games.
Even if they did it's a free win for you as the cheapest titan clocks in at 2000 points.
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How's this for an Ork Brigade detachment?
1997 points. (whatever clan. I can change this on a whim)

HQ:
Painboss
Weirdboy (Warlord, Brutal but Kunning)
Warboss in Mega Armour ('Ard as Nails, Da Krushin' Armour)

>Troops:
x10 boyz
x10 boyz
x10 boyz
x10 boyz
x10 grots
x10 grots

>Elites:
x10 Nobz (Boss with two Killsaws, the rest with a Big Choppa and a Choppa)
x10 Nobz (Boss with two Killsaws, the rest with a Big Choppa and a Choppa)
x10 Nobz (Boss with two Killsaws, the rest with a Big Choppa and a Choppa)

>Fast Attack:
3 Deffkoptas (Flyboyz)
Squigbuggy
Squigbuggy

>Heavy Support:
Deff Dread (two claws, two skorchas)
Deff Dread (two claws, two skorchas)
Deff Dread (two claws, two skorchas)

1997 points
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>>81306655
>edge highlighting smoke
just because you can highlight and edge doesn't mean you should
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>>81306343
>>81306641
Do Yoy guys ever seen a model with modeled lightning added like if it went out of the armour? Somenthing like pic related.
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>>81306716
Why the fuck would I waste my time updating a picture that has only gotten two("2") (You)'s, one of which being mine, in the last half an hour?
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>>81306778
Fuck yes, it doesn't even look like smoke.
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>>81306782
if you want it done to a meme image do it yourself. /tg/ isn't your editor
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>>81306336
35% win rate
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Oh I thought Scarab termies could do that. What would be a good power to put on them then? The one that removes invuln so you can gun someone down? 5 termies put out like 16 S4 AP-2 shots + 5 S6 AP-3 + 2 S8 AP-2 missiles. If you remove the invuln from something like Bladeguards it's going to sting them pretty bad.
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>>81306724
a GK termintor at 40pts or more cost more then 2 strikes, has less shots, less attacks, fewer wounds, and if the GK take a nemezis force staff they can get a +5inv too. the only difference is the one point in regular saves termintors have over strikes.

Paladins are not even part of the brotherhoods so miss out ona large chunk of the new GK rules. They are definitly just bad. Purfires aren't bad per se, they are just strikes that can't deepstrike, but have a nice rule and can be put in to a LR with Crow, to create a one time nova nuke. Of course you can do the same by taking a librarian, for fewer points. But they are not bad, or at least not bad the way termintors are. they are like the scouts of GK codex, there is zero reasons to take them.
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>>81306864
>there is zero reasons to take them
yeah but they look cool
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>>81306890
At some point looking cool stops to matter. At least for me. I picked GK, because I liked how the termintors they had looked and the whole knight weapons etc. I own zero power armoured GK models. But playing with termintors is just not fun, specially if you get matched up with someone with an updated book. The fact that other factions got working termintors is just a bonus sting.
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>>81306864
That's because Imperium terminators are cringe apparently. Get yourselves some Cataphractii and Tartaros armours if you want good termies.
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>>81306779
My original night lords that my dogs ate i had used colorshift and silver for the lightning. When the light hit it in certain spots it looked like it was above the armor.
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Everything should cost more points and armies should be smaller.
Also, smaller sized games should have rules concerning unit distribution. Take inspiration from WHFB 6th edition.
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Predictions for tomorrow?
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>>81306915
nah, Deathwing are good
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>>81306915
I play Grey Knights, Grey Knights can not use either of the suits.
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>>81306937
Disappointment.
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>>81306937
Let's see how much more of this becomes true
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>>81306937
Templars. Probably some sisters as well but mostly Templars.
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>>81306937
I just want BT stuff. Need more knightly marines in my army.
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>>81306937
disappointment.
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>>81306945
Wait shouldn't there be a campaign book for Grey Knights with extra rules to fix stuff, before they start pumping out other armies?
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>>81306943
I know, I was just jestin'. It's a shame how Chaos gets all these unique, strong termies and Imperium only has the same flavours as ever and they don't really let them shine. I wish fist + stormbolter termies were good for once.

>>81306940
Not in a very interesting way though. You can make any unit good if you slap transhuman on it.
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>>81306962
Why?
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>>81306945
None of it.
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visually what are the main differencess between pre-9th necrons and their newer cousins? I've never really dealt with the boners, biggest thing that sticks out are the guns having orbs on a pipe instead of being tubes
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>>81306922
Noice. Also, fucking dog.
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>>81306945
>world eaters getting love
>squats outside of a token negromunda unit or character model for blackstone
I wish, but nah
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>>81303426
>one dolly faggot dismisses the other dolly faggot for liking different dollies.
Yoikes.
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>>81306937
>>81306945
I will be disappointed if its just showing off BT stuff. I want to see at least some CSM stuff.
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>>81306945
>IG not even a date
Demo tank commander and FP manticores for another year
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>>81306945
>marine shit
I sleep
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>>81306970
well if you want to go all the way back, they started off as "chaos androids" in Space crusade, were often painted/depicted white rather than metal, and had chaos symbols on them
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>>81306965
>You can make any unit good if you slap transhuman on it.
But they're obsec too without need of chaff like DG/TS.
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>>81306968
well every other book that came out new got one. And how are they suppose to fix the book, when the codex is already out? they only make rules changes nowadays to nerf stuff, or when a new book/models comes out. GK won't get any new models this or next year, and the codex made terminators worse then they were under the old book, and under that they were already bad.
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>>81307009
nts, but yeah, current necrons are the 4th visual reboot of that faction
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>>81307009
can necrons fall to chaos nowadays? they have their sentience but without souls and all I'd imagine the ruinous powers wouldn't particularly care
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>>81307013
>codex made terminators worse
So nothing wrong then.
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>>81305575
What brand of paint? How close were you holding it?
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>>81305575
You probably sprayed too close to the model. Fucked up a whole box of Delaque Necromunda gang by doing that. It hurts
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>>81307032
so
>archaic chaos droid retconned look
>similar look but their own thing
>modern redux
>9th touch up
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>>81307011
Still not very exciting. They don't have anything different from other termies except a rocket launcher, it's just that well, 2+/5++ with transhuman and obsec base is pretty nuts so you run them.
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HQ:
Lord of Contagion (Warlord, Revoltingly Resilient, Ferryman's Scythe)
Sorcerer in Terminator Armour (Hulking Physique, Plaguechosen)

>Troops:
x10 Poxwalkers
x10 Poxwalkers
x10 Plague Marines

>Elites:
x10 Blightlord Termies (2x Flail, 2x Blight Launcher, Champion w Plaguebringer) (rest combibolter and axe)
x3 Deathshroud Terminators
x3 Deathshroud Terminators (Champion with Reaper of Glorious Entropy)

>Fast Attack:
1x Foetid Bloat Drone
1x Foetid Bloat Drone

>Heavy Support:
PBC (two heavy stubbers, two entropy cannons)
PBC (two heavy stubbers, two entropy cannons)

Thoughts?
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>>81306970
WarCom went over it last year, they had like 4 major eras.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/08/necrons-through-the-ages/
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>>81307079
Yes thats a list
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>>81307079
Oh, I forgot I also have a Tallyman and a Foul Blightspawn with Revolting Stench Vats
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>>81307063
>>81307046
I used a black metalic spry for aluminium and drain pipes, it seems like they add something to it that melts plastic.
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>>81307013
>plays special flavor manlets in the age of primaris and wonders why he doesn't get more than scraps
sounds like you haven't accepted reality yet
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>spend all day at work wanting to paint my orks
>too tired to do more than shower and sleep after I get off work, barely have time for more than that before the next shift anyways
AHHHHHHHHHH I JUST WANT TO PAINT LIL DUDES AHHHHHH thank fuck this is temporary or else I'd probably end up killing someone.
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>>81307086
>As if that wasn’t enough, their lore stated that they were created by Squats who had turned to Chaos!
those fucking dwarves, they're behind it all, they're just biding their time while their keikaku comes to fruition
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>>81307042
Don't think so.
Original lore was they were mechanical bodies made by chaos squats and possessed by daemons.
It came from a place of "dude, what if undead skeletons but in 40K!?".
That said, Necrons came from a place of "dude, what if Tomb Kings but in space!?"
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>>81307071
I think that's correct:
>original plastic chaos androids from Space Crusade/Epic
>Proper new faction and metal models from 3e
>Plastic models and FW resin refresh
>9th ed. refresh
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>>81307107
>It came from a place of "dude, what if undead skeletons but in 40K!?"
No, it came as an excuse to put Terminators in 40K. Linking them with tomb kangz came way later.
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>>81307044
it is bad if you happen to own a termintor GK army. Rebuying a strike one would only make sense if it was somehow always better then other armies for at least a few months, if not a year plus. But the power armoured GK army is not better then the good armies that are in the game right now.

Plus again I have a termintor army. I don't want non termintor models in it. And litterally made regular GM much worse then the NDK ones, special characters better then regular one for practically no point costs, and power armoured models are better then terminators. Like better in every way. more attacks, shots, wounds, same +5 inv save, if you take force staff. etc
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>>81307101
Well I mean it is not like the good marine armies don't consists of venguard veterans, attack bikes, termintors (for DA) and bikers, non primaris characters etc Aside for blade guard primaris are not really the top pick for loyalist armies.

Plus show me the primaris in DG and 1ksons.
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>>81307079
The most standard ass meta list you can do for DG. It's good and fun to play. Not much to comment. Going Ferrymen and not picking up the droning seems weird though, do you only want the stratagem?
If you REALLY want to meta it up you can swap the 10x Plagues for something else and get a few more Poxes.
Also PBCs have either 1 heavy slugger or 1 rothail, not stubbers.
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>>81307074
"exciting" is very subjective, anon.
Transhuman obsec termies with good shooting/melee/mixed variants, and support characters (apothecary, ancient, captain, chaplains...) + DW aesthetic seems pretty kino to me. Their only weaknees is being a bit slow, and that's where Ravenwing enters the picture.
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>>81307121
I gave up on gk long ago. Bladeguard look better than anything gk have aesthetically, anyways.
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>>81307105
you could try painting lots of a single colour for a bunch of dudes, that way it's less set up to get going and you can do as little or as much as time allows
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>>81307107
it was less if the old lore applies (it doesn't, imagine canon chaos squats lmao) and more if in the current lore some lord might go "hey, this chaos stuff is pretty good" in some weird fringe case
>>81307118
weren't the very first 3e models already super egyptian?
But yeah, space crusade crons were more terminators than just skeletons, granted the terminator IS a metal skeleton
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>hellblasters have tassets
>assault intercessors have tassets
>intercessors don't have tassets

How do I fix thiiiiiiiis?!
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>>81307140
That's a fair point. I just mean that there isn't anything to set them apart from other termies equipment wise, and that's what I like about the chaos ones. Obviously if you enjoy the whole DW and Dark Angel aesthetic you'll like them plenty.
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>>81307135
>Plus show me the primaris in DG and 1ksons.
you are living further away from reality than I thought if you're trying to equate chaos (who got an actual upscaling of their models) to loyalists
either way enjoy your table scraps in the form of one off special characters that look like they're designed by an intern and pretend everything is going to be different any day now until they eventually primaris re-release your army
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>>81307181
Use hellblaster/assault bodies for normal intercessors, duh
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>>81306653
The baneblade always confused me. How can you spend that much time painting and not notice that? Hell didnt even have to fix it just use the other side of the model
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>>81307137
I feel like droning is probably only when you need it because tis dogshit into certain armies. I like the plagues sometimes because the poxes are too easy to pick off in shooting without a fight from some armies

yea, I meant slugger. I mistake the two all the time because I have a tard brain
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>>81307228
Looks like it probably snapped off during the photoshoot and nobody noticed. The lascannon sponson is also pointed at the hull twin-HB turret.
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>>81307191
Well, they have plasma cannons and those big maces and flails. I'd say they're almost loyalist blightlords, heh
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>>81307228
>>81307251
the antenna on the turret is also snapped off, looks like that model has been through some shit
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>>81307243
I usually like Droning when I have bloatdrones, just so I can advance one up and pop flash outbreak. In some situations it can just massively ruin an army's movement for a turn, but it's situational yea.
I'd at least give the Plagues a flail, I think. 10 points more to have a guy with 6 S5 AP-2 D2 attacks prowling and scaring chargers away sounds like a steal if you're picking them.
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>>81306791
You can always do shit memes
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>>81307311
Translator pls?
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>>81307105
>posts no models
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>>81307311
WRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYY
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>>81307322
>torakku de inkarune o hiku no wa tanoshii
Something along the lines of:
>It's fun to run over The Incarne on a truck
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>>81307352
Lmao that’s pretty funny, indeed it is pozzed humie
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>>81307311
Spanish 40k memes are not bad
>Curze: "How to paint a Custodes"
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>>81303692
Supporting flgs
>le pay piggy
Grow up poorfaggot
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>>81307380
Pozzed as in HIV positive?
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>>81307408
I call GSC pozzed humans, although that could also include pox walkers
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>>81307425
What does "pozzed" mean?
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Do you recon GW is going to make an Ork Terminus Est called something like 'The Green Tide', with no vehicles, but the bonus is that Ork Boyz get their no-morale shit back?
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>>81307456
It's a word for calling someone HIV positive, although it can have different meanings depending on context. It can also mean diseased in general or fucked up/over.
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>>81307456
Positive, could be HIV, or genestealer diseases
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>>81307458
Does it make me a gamelet if “Terminus Est” is only the name of Mortarion’s ship to me?
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>>81307511
nta but its just the name of an army of renown for death guard in that DLC book. Stops you taking vehicles but gives you some extra strats. Its bad.
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>>81307519
it's cool tho. being able to shoot targets that are in engagement range of poxwalkers nad having misses hit the poxwalkers instead is very funny
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>>81307519
>>81307511
Alright, how is this for a little bit of homebrewing? Shit?
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>>81307614
why does it have eroge font
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>>81307511
Its not even Mortarion's Ship. Its Typhus's
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>>81307631
I don't know what eroge font is, just a random one I plucked that wasn't Arial
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>>81307519
>Shit
>Strat to make all Poxwalkers cause MW on a 5+.
>Strat to reroll all hit rolls
>only 2CP combo
>Average 7-12 mortal wounds, not including actual damage from hits
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>>81307519
Terminust Est can actually wreck some melee armies pretty badly given its boosts to poxwalkers but it has three big issues
>CP thirst as fuck, stops you from spamming plaguechosen which is a huge DG strength
>extremely medicore shooting without PBC and other common DG support like Contemptors
>wants typhus in the poxwalker blob extremely, extremely badly, so stops you from making a deathball with LoC and DS termies like most DG armies do
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>>81307663
What he means is not competetive. This is because things like Keeper of Secret Spam and AdMech "dumb melee bitch removal" shooting phases exist
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>>81307664
What is the LoC good for again?
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>>81305662
I don't get why. Does he not like the idea that some members of the traitor legions hid and became loyalist chapters?
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>>81307686
LoC is really only worth taking over the LoV with the Manreaper and Orb of Dessication (LoV is only marginally less melee rapey than plague cleaver but has much better shooting) but when you have it he becomes a great leader for a melee deathball that teleport strikes. Hes got a 4++ and a 2+, so slap rotten constitution and either Hive relic, Reaper of Glorious Entropy or Ferrymans Scythe on him and he will tear apart anything in melee
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>>81307663
why does he wear the lab coat?
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>>81306945
>Tyranid rumour engines
>Nothing about Tyranids
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>>81307713
Because he’s rigormortis
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>>81306945
FP manticores?
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>>81307707
Isnt problematic that he has do charge out of deepstrike? That has less than 50% using a CP reroll
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>>81307690
Because you can't have fun. Also he is a massive fag honestly and wants to make his mark on 40k like any other fag writer for BL.
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>>81307690
I think he did an interview where he explained why he changed it. He wanted to subvert expectations, because the other authors had built up the Blood Ravens to be TS successors, and all the fans expected that.
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>>81307732
>I turned myself into a pox walker, Mortarion!
>I'm pox walker Rick!
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>>81307156
My extended hours should be ending in another shift or two at least, it's just depressing to walk past my unpainted d00ds
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>>81307741
>subvert expectations
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>>81307734
Yea thats genuinely one of the only things that sucks about it. But its used in a lot of comp builds because they are tanky enough that if you deepstrike them somewhere problematic they wont be able to deal with them anyways

Also its a little over 50%. I believe 56% with CP reroll
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>>81307324
Because I'm at work, dummy.
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>>81307713
If you want an in-lore reason, the world of Iax was a hospital world, and Poxwalkers were encountered there.
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>>81307741
>He wanted to subvert expectations
Everyone makes stuff that's shows it's basically 70-90% chance they are Tysons.
"I'm gonna make a thing that just shits all over what has already been done."
It's like with the horus heresy shit recently, fucking fuck off from that setting and stop jacking that part of 40k history off constantly and make new original shit, jesus fucking christ.
I hate this faggot
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>>81307663
I didn't say it was shit. But yes, losing all vehicles including Contemptors and PBCs and being forced into Harbingers is bad.
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>>81307722
Also new Nid rules. Them being the Xenos codex in December to go along with the DLC book seems a no-brainer to me
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>>81307734
>>81307762
9" deepstrike always sucks balls. I never do it.
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>>81307815
Proceed to be a low power codex to compensate the bullshit of other codex
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>>81307663
They still MW on 6+ to hit, friend.
Also if you're playing vs a shooting army (which is incredibly common) it's just gonna be a turkey shoot to them because you only have trashy chaos bolters for your shooting.
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>>81307741
>He wanted to subvert expectations
he was butthurt someone beat him in a nerd argument on B&C by posting references in other novels, you mean
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>>81307663
>Moves 4"
>Has no save
hmm yes how could I counter this
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>>81307767
I was half joking but never understood why there was a random poxwalker with a lab coat on lol thanks
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>>81307741
Why does every fucking writer think that making a good story always has to have some "twist" or a "subversion"? And why the fuck is it always sub par writers who do this shit?
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>>81307862
All your poxwalkers move an extra 4" with a 2CP TE strat. They also have a 6+++, which helps a bit.
But yeah TE overall is kinda shit, I'd only play it to meme.
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>>81307881
Retards that treat stories like puzzles where the goal is to predict what will happen and idiots that see surprises at the most important thing have conditioned them.
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>>81307881
It was the clever big thing between the 00s until the 2010s fiascos like Lost, JJ Abrams magic box BS, or GoT made people remember that is better a easy good plain ending than a clever bad one.
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>>81307881
A satisfying pay-off to what has already been established is harder to achieve than a nonsequitous twist.
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>>81307762
>Also its a little over 50%. I believe 56% with CP reroll
Its a 27.78% without reroll. But you cant just multiply by two for the reroll (that would make the 56%)
Yo have to calculate the probability of the reroll when the previous have failed, a 72.22%

So its a 27.78% + 72.22% * 27.78% = 27.78% + 20.06% = 47.84%
A bit less than 50%
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>>81304494
You lose 2CP by not having your warlord in the patrol
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>>81307881
Because creating a satisfying ending to a show is now virtually impossible without some sort of miracle and/or stable audience who will accept it. Therefore, 'twists' take that place.
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>>81306511
I sure feel welcome by GW
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>>81307862
>shoots at my poxwalkers
>Ignores my terminators and plague marines
Worst case scenario, I lost my poxwalkers, and you lose a turn of anti-infantry shooting while my blokes advance across the board
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>>81308060
oh no not the plague marines

and yeah, your termies are eating the fire that would have gone into your vehicles that you don't have. Safely of course, because you have fuck all shooting threats.
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>>81308058
Your "kind" will never be welcomed here
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>>81307614
>only lose 3 Boyz without a character nearby
>adding fucking 3” to charge rolls
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>>81307881
>>81307741
have people not had it drilled through even the thickest skull that
>SUBERT ECKSPECKTASHUN
just for the sake of it is hack fraudery after the same mentality sank fucking disney backed star wars because they handed it off to some retard instead of just letting jj memebrams handle the trilogy and ride the easy normie money? If last jedi and gay of thrones wasn't enough to teach even the most surface level normalfags and execs to stop this shit what will?
also how the fuck does 40k have a master of lore, their lore is an absolute shitshow with no consistency that usually gets ignored by fans, and why is ADB harassing random IP suits who probably don't know who the blood ravens even are about this?
Fuck all of this the ravens are definitely 1ksons just to spite these retards, half of them probably just went "huh? did we CONFIRM it? well no guess not" anyway and weren't agreeing with what seems like a personal vendetta against fans of the theory
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>>81308134
>only losing 3 boys
In 8th, you lost none
>adding 3 to charge rolls
ok that may have been a bit much. 1, maybe.
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>>81308117
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>>81308060
>anti infantry going into termies
Lol

>>81308081
This guy has it correct. TE has literally no shooting threats, so all the other dude has to do is blow off all your pox and deathshroud first.
Plague Marines (unless they're packing melee) can be safely ignored along with Blightlords.
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>>81307614
busted as fuck lmao
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>>81308081
>oh no not the plague marines
yes
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>>81308154
>in 8th, you lost none
Breakin Eads requires you to be within 3” of a character
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>>81308148
JJ would've fucked it too, dude can't stick a landing to save his little jew life. But it would've been a much more profitable ride off the cliff for Disney, I'll give you the much.
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>>81305011
>>81307690
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>>81307741
So ABD has basically retconned the Blood Ravens being Thousand Sons successors or did a laughably shitty attempt at it?

I love the idea of chapters actually being successors of traitor legions and still carrying their pre-heresy loyalist legacy with them.
I also would love to see these traitor legion gene seed carrying loyalists collide with their chaos cousins.

Any canon chapters of space marines carrying on the Iron Warriors legacy as loyalist marines?
And have they ever collided with the Iron Warriors traitor legion?

almost 500 posts is it time for a new thread?
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>>81308338
there's a couple of primaris successor chapters that are heavily hinted to have traitor geneseed on the downlow, cawl probably went ahead with it anyway despite girlyman's veto
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>>81307458
Shut up and buy the buggies.
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>>81308388
>cawl probably went ahead with it anyway despite girlyman's veto
Of course, players who had chapters with traitors geneseed can buy primaris without breaking lore.
BUY PRIMARIS
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>>81308388
I know the sons of the phoenix are an obvious example of being Emp's Children.
Given how Fulgrim has a phoenix thing with him perhaps his clone can be the Phoenix for Fulgrim to rise again.

Did Fabius really make a clone of Fulgrim? My memory is a bit hazy. I vaguely recall that Fabius just found a living clone of Fulgrim that seems to have been created in a sort of "it just fucking happened and I don't know how" sort of way.

Is this true?
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>>81303726
Share. Inspiration for my own srt I'm working on.
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>>81307614
>more durable
>effectively immune to morale
>5-15" charge range
Fucking no way lol.
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>>81308231
yeah, I wasn't imagining some glorious kino from lens flare man, just a safe cash wave for didney that wouldn't have aggrivated even star wars drones like the loony they got instead
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Hey, /40kg/ I need some help in colour schemes.
I love the physical hazard stripes the yellow/black or bright orange/black stripes.
However they are usually associated with the Iron Warriors traitor legion.

How do I incorporate hazard stripes onto a space marine or IG unit without them looking like Iron Warriors cultist auxiliaries or Iron Warrior successors?
Will a modified Cadian colour scheme be enough to avoid the incorporation of a hazard stripe'd shoulderpad making them look like heretic guardsmen?
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>>81307640
it was mortys but typhus stole it
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>>81308338
>So ABD has basically retconned the Blood Ravens being Thousand Sons successors or did a laughably shitty attempt at it?
Not even that. He stamped his feet and cried about how he hates the theory. That's it. The man has a massively over-inflated sense of his own importance.
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>>81308425
You don't know about the Silver Skulls, Red Scorpions, Minotaurs or Blood Ravens?
You must be a newfag.
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>>81308529
>Will a modified Cadian colour scheme be enough to avoid the incorporation of a hazard stripe'd shoulderpad making them look like heretic guardsmen?
sure

Shoulder/knee pads, chainswords, and power fists have all used hazard stripes on loyalist units. Just avoid the iron/black/gold and it'll be more of a reference to classic 40k than anything else.
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>>81308595
Its more like.
>Guys, I hate this. Is it canon?
>No
>Nope
>No
>We want to keep the mystery, so no
>All right guys, I have a mission to tell EVERYONE on the internet, BRB
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>>81308619
Mate, I think you misundertand. Cawl using traitors geneseed its a marketing decision so people will feel validated to buy primaris marines
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>>81308660
the answer was probably "fuck off bowden"
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>>81308639
Alright fair enough. Thank you, anon!
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>>81308529
Hazard stripes on things that traditionally had them, like chainswords or power fists are chapter-agnostic.
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>>81303125
There's been some discussion regarding if the Grey Knights use Thousand Sons geneseed. Some say that the lack of mutations in Grey Knights discredits this theory. However, the Grey Knights have insanely strict training regimen, so I think it's reasonable to assume that mutations aren't present because individuals who might mutate get killed in training before becoming full Grey Knights.
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>>81308492
And I'm saying he would've fucked it in the final stretch just like the last season of GoT. That said, you're right that the ride to that fuckery would likely have been pretty smooth sailing.
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>>81308720
if anyone gives you shit mention they're devotional stripes
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>>81308715
I dont think so. There isn't a more onerous than a validated retard. Like ADB at the moment.
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>>81308713
So were FW special snowflake chapters. Is nothing new to hint/hype the secret origin of them. Plenty of IA books and Minotaurs/Red scorpions resin was sold because of it.
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>>81305700
>gacha
In English motherfucker.
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>>81308796
shut up boomer
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>>81303583
Thanks for submitting your retarded and clearly wrong opinion.
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so when is someone making a new thread for fucks sake?
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>>81308338
>Any canon chapters of space marines carrying on the Iron Warriors legacy as loyalist marines?
>And have they ever collided with the Iron Warriors traitor legion?
Silver Skulls maybe? They seem like they might match up some rebels who split from perturabo in the heresy and signed on with the ultramarines.
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>>81308823
USING LOAN WORDS WHEN UNNECESSARY DOES NOT MAKE YOU LOOK SMART IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID AND PRETENSIOUS 4CHAN IS AN ENGLISH SPEAKING SITE
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>>81308965
> WHEN UNNECESSARY
Whats the direct translation english word for gacha?
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>>81309001
LOOTBOX
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>>81308965
Oh no, he is asking for anime spam to remind him where is he. Don't make us teach you a lesson you dork.
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>>81309037
Thats virtual items
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>>81308860
The Silver Skulls are heavily implied to descend from Dantioch's faction of Iron Warriors, yeah.
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>>81309046
and gacha are capsule toys
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>>81309037
???
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>>81309059
Right, so literally the Heroes series.
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>>81308766
ah, fair enough
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>>81309068
>no capsule
>no machine
random blind-buy boxes aren't gachapon
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>>81309081
Yes they are, nigger.
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>>81309097
if they're not coming out of a vending machine, they're not gacha or pon, you retarded faggot
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>>81309045
LAST TIME I CHECKED /A/ IS ALSO AN ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOARD YOU ASS ENEMA
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>>81308595
>He stamped his feet and cried about how he hates the theory.
Where was this meltdown if it happened online?
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Did someone say GATCHA?!
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>>81309147
I think it was on Bolter and Chainsword.
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>>81309157
She cute
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>>81309097
IT'S A LOOTBOX
IT'S A LOOTBOX
IT'S A LOOTBOX
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>>81309203
She's an autistic buddha
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>>81309097
Got a lame sister in my loot box, this sucks. Imma throw it away
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>>81308769
I skimmed through that image.
I didn't see anything about these "devotional stripes" being yellow/black.
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>>81309244
Even better, source on the anime ?
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>>81309209
fuck lootboxes
space marine battlepass when?
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>>81309301
warhammer+
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>>81309274
>lootbox
Thank you, I no longer feel uncontrollable rage.
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>>81304827
>GW should shoot itself in its foot.
Stick to basement dwelling
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>>81309281
you're welcome to point me to the other stripes on terminators from that time period, anon
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>>81309045
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>>81309348
Damn you got me there.
Well played anon.
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>>81309284
Gatchaman CROWDS. You will learn to love the :>
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>>81309407
Cute is truly life.
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>>81309407
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>>81309407
24+1OAV
I'll watch it
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I'm gonna make an admech army as my second army, dunestriders look cool af
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>>81309480
waac
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new bred whern
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>>81309506
???
I play blood angels, let me win for once ffs
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>>81309529
I'm just yanking your chain anon, enjoy building and painting admech
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>>81309542
Test
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>>81305560
deathshroud and poxes are stupidly undercosted.
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Space Wolves and codex astartes?
>>81309645
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>>81309745
i'd say the cost is right
now poxes are too strong but i would nef stats not price
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>>81309800
There's nothing to nerf. M4", 2 attacks at WS4+ S3 AP0 D1, 1W, 7+Sv. Their only even halfway reasonable stat is T4
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>>81309757
They like the tactics section. They don't like the rest.
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Nwe trhead
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>>81309875
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>>81309745
poxes couldn't not be 5points, but their base toughness and ignoring D2 being what it is makes them better than cultists by a country mile

deathshrouds are 50 points per, the reason they are good is because they absolutely murk chaffe spam armies and can shoot into melee. They are worthless at range and have 5"
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>>81309471
I'll warn you that S2 is a steep downgrade from S1. It's still a decent enough watch, but S1 is narratively tight as fuck and probably one of my top 5 animes.
>>81309451
Ironically, the anime is very much about the importance of fellow humans and accurately predicts a lot of social media pitfalls that would come to poison social discourse in the following years without being preachy about them
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Are there no more novels MEGAs?
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>>81303181
Combat Patrol and Incursion exists. They're good too. More people like 2k so more people play that.
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>>81309859
first, S3 with contagion is enough to be a thread to most troops, also with typhus and putrecent vitality they're S5 T5, they also have an fnp, can restore numbers by killing ennemies or with stratagems, even without typhus that's strong, cannon fodder should'nt be that strong offensively, i'd say make them WS 5+ or A1
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>>81309956
Poxes dont have DR btw which means they still need to take 2 FNP rolls if you shoot 2D weapons into them
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>>81310037
Typhus only buffs their S
They're fine as they are because they're slow as balls, arent bubonic astartes and cant do actions other than the one DG secondary.
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