Chaos Edition>Previously, in the Mortal Realms>>81275551>Official AoS websitehttps://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/>Art Databaseageofsigmart.booru.org/index.php>AoS Battletomeshttps://mega.nz/folder/IaJWXIrT#B-pdno4pmA5dz3u83Mxo_A>/YourDudes/ Fluffhttps://mega.nz/#F!JPo1ATAZ!Dc8C0HngNOwI3jE7jMhxSA>Soulbound and Supplementshttps://mega.nz/folder/EKI2WRYI#exxxK7js5JLwsXljiel3kw (Dead link) Euros can't make threads>AoS Books and Audiobookshttps://mega.nz/folder/Wjg2HSrK#nLgjQdhQodTxDCNKAnMRAA (Dead link)One day these will be fixed.>Toolswarhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/https://repl.it/repls/ShockingNegligibleSpecialistnofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psdhttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creatorhttps://aosg.github.io/>Thread question:What is a dumb gimmick army list you would like to build?
>TQ Double Dragon. I'm gonna do it too.
>>81286687>no ward savesLiteral victims
>>81286717Is that even a gimmick list?
"Our crops whither, by Sigmar! How are we to feed our kin if we cannot reap the harvest nor receive the bounty of the woods? That thing is in there, and you lot don't even heed us! A beast, I says. A great terror, furred and fanged. I ain't seen any like it round these parts in all my seasons. Corpses found in the woods, when folk would dare to trespass them, that is. We bar our doors at night in fear and tremble together till morn comes round again. The livestock is gone. Rent asunder by claws and teeth. I ain't seen a massacre like that in me life. The sounds that night were hellish. Them poor souls. Not to mention the roots! Seems like the corpses we put in the ground from starvation come back to haunt us. Twisted and gnarled. We've even tried to lash them to their graves! The watch has to put down so many a night. I tell you, here in your little city you ain't got nary to fear. Your walls keep you safe, and so do them chosen by Sigmar. Out there we ain't got nothing but one another and even that is dwindling. They sent me here to beg for help, which is exactly what I'm doing."-Article snippet from The Herald, daily print, on the troubles in Uxhley, Ghyran. Is my writefaggotry bad?
>TQFull Ironweld Arsenal Cities army complete with Steam Tank spam
>>81286876Yes, because literally no one does it. Here, let's make it more gimmicky. Four Magmadroths and a Kraken-Eater.
>>81286652Full Extremis list now that dracothian guard are battleline.
>>81286891The voice is a little off, it wavers between ye olde timey and straight up yokel. "Cannot reap the harvest nor receive the bounty" vs "round these parts". "a great terror, furred and fanged" vs "I ain't seen a massacre like that in me life"And at times it dips out completely and it just sounds like normal modern English. "Not to mention", "which is exactly what I'm doing"I'd also question the use of the term "the watch". A city has a watch, as in an organization of people who do that as their job. A small town would have a watch as in a duty that is fulfilled by able-bodied adults as the need arises. So this olde timey yokel wouldn't refer to "the watch" as it's own entity because in his experience it's not a separate entity.
>>81286944Ah damn, can only do 5 behemoths if they are all magamdroths. So 5 Magmadroths.
>>81286944>dracothian guardWhy does no one do it? You've only got the three models in your army, and Magmadroths can be three different things already so you'd only have one repeated unit.
>>81287009Because Magmadroths are shit for the cost. It's good to have like one sometimes, MAYBE two. But anymore and you're just not gonna have enough other shit like battlesmiths and HGB which are better.
>>81287009>dracothian guard>why does no one do it?They got a little left behind but honestly they're still pretty solid and now that they count as battleline they're very useful.
>>81287033Sounds like Fyreslayer players don't care about fun
>>81287088They already are shit and lacking in options, no one wants to lose every time except GSG players.
>>81286687But they have pubes tho
>>81286994Fair, thank you. I'll tidy it up.
>>81286652once we get a new kit for it, i want to do a heavy rat ogre list for skaven
>>812871051, not pubes2, why would that matter at all. oh BOO HOO my dragon hasnt shaved his treasure trail WAAAAAHHHH
>>81286956Dracothian Guard weren't Battleline? They had their own fucking Battletome
>>81287105So do I
>>81287278No, never. >They had their own fucking BattletomeWhich came out before battleline and Matched Play were a thing.
>>81286652>TQI play Orruks; all I play are gimmick lists. DED KUNNIN GIMMIKZ DEY IZ
>TFW no push pops
>>81286937My current Greywater list is4 Commanders on Tank4 Tanks4 CoptersGood? No. Hilarious? Yes. Kitbashed? Absolutely.
My local shop still has a pile of unsold dominion boxes.
Where to get proxies for rat ogres? The ones gw sell look pretty bad.
>>81287408This troll needs some helmet or face cover vJKBS
>>81287408What does the other head and other rider look like?
A Skaven army using rat swarms and just a Clawlord as a general. I would always lose but the idea of a single Skaven commanding thousands and thousands of tiny rats cracks me up.
>>81287944just put a taxidermiedrat on the base. booom perfect proxy
>>81288013>>81288010>>81287408Just as ugly I need an idea to transform this mug. Anny ideas?
A gimmick list I wanna play is clan eshin that blocks your opponent in their deployment zone. Clan eshin can pregame move and move in their turn get up against the opponents deployment zone. Gnawholes are impassable terrain so you can use them to further block the deployment zone. Shackles can prevent the change into your units. The vermin lord deceiver can turn any terrain into a gnawholes for a turn trapping any unit inside. Basically you screen them off score with your board control.
>>81287944check out the wererats by reaperhttps://www.reapermini.com/search/wereratmantic has these guys - don't be fooled by the store pictures they do have parts to make them look less sci-fi. There are a couple of examples in the army shots for the KoW army bundle dealshttps://www.manticgames.com/games/deadzone/veer-myn/veer-myn-nightmares/
>>81288308Thanks, the wererats are more like rat ogres. The mantic nightmares don't look bad, but they are more like stormfiends in my opinion.
>>81288116... A rat might unironically be too big. Try field mice
https://youtu.be/9QKkvDN7l7II don't know where the gryphon's head is and it's bothering me.
>>81288573Just greenstuff something silly
>>81288001 Still need to paint half of the tanks but that should be fast once I'm done with my current 40k projects.
>>81288641Looks great anon
>>81288641>>81288646something isn't right
>>81288675It's just Dwarfs with full-body beards, nothing to see here man-thing. There are no skaven under Hammerhall.
Now that it's been a few days, what are your impressions so far, good or bad, of SCE and OWC? In terms of matched play, open play, narrative play, traits and relics, lore, and whatever else?
>>81286693Kragnos almost extincted them by himself
>>81288725>open play, narrative playNot my specialty >matched playI think Stormcast are going to do pretty well by stacking the dragon riders with Judicators dishing out Mortal Wounds. Warclans on the other hand I think are going to be kinda garbage, since Kruleboyz are a fishing for 6's army instead of being actually good. Ironjawz probably got off the best of everyone in that book, being relatively unchanged and Bonesplitters got gutted. Big Waagh might be decent though. >traits and relicsA bit bland, like everyone else in this edition it seems. >loreSeems pretty good from what I have seen, though we don't have confirmation yet if there's Kruleboyz outside of Ghur. >whatever else If there's something I really don't like about these new books, is how many abilities and rules got removed, with nothing to replace them. Command Abilities on heroes being gone in favour of buffing the core book ones really sucks and takes the flavour of armies away. I'm personally really worried about some future releases, like Nighthaunt, due to how much was removed.
>>81288768With all the Destruction vs Chaos stuff being set up, I kinda wanna see Kragnos vs Archaon now. Though we both know it'd end with Kragnos being mauled horribly, because the plot cares way more about Archaon than it does about Kragnos
>>81288821That implies anyone cares about Kragnos.
>>81288821Gordrakk goes to fight in Eightpoint. Kragnos stays with the main plot in Ghur
God damnit I can choose an army! .. want something that fit well vs kruelboyz, is kinda all around and not too hordy.Sell me on some fun armies and themes
>>81289105Sylvaneth try to reclaim the bog.
>>81287408Why the fuck are they adding SJWs to AoS?
>>81288795>since Kruleboyz are a fishing for 6's army instead of being actually goodThey also have an insanely good magic lore, and they also have ways to fish for 5s
>>81289193Nah man, that ain't an SJW, that is a 90's kid.
>>81289113Naa>>81289123Could be fun, can make some fun swamp themes with em. Are they fun to play?
>>81289211They have a good magic lore, but Mouth of Mork is pretty mediocre and the swamp caller is alright. Point in case though, is there's nothing really fun or thematic about Kruleboyz. Best thing they have is the Dirty Tricks.
>>81288795>we don't have confirmation yet if there's Kruleboyz outside of Ghur.Battletome talks about KBs in Ghyran.
>>81289105CoS with 1/4 Stormcast to get a feel for Downbringer getting raided by Morkz
>>81289260are there any stories in their tome of them interacting with non-stormies?
>>81289280go back a couple of threads, someone posted alot of lore snippets
>>81289269Little disappointed with the CoS book, and they will properly get the bonesplitters treatment. Plus the models are starting to show their age
>>81289280If by stories you mean prose narration with spoken dialogue between kruleboyz and non-orruks, then no, that's not in there.
I hope Cabalists gets changed to dealing d3mw instead of killing d3 modelsOWC got the cabalists ability but dealing MWs instead of slain models (d3 MW, +1 to cast for each wound dealt)That way I can use a gaunt summoner and have him summon Furies as a battery for him all game, as its 12 wounds for him to eat
>>81289222>>81289123i like the concept of "something creepier and older than the slave traders settling recently in the swamp claiming its land back">Are they fun to play?sadly noimproved with the 3rd core rules a bit tho
>>81289212What's the difference?
>>81289376The problem is that as far as we can tell, the kruleboyz ARE the the older ones that have been in the swamps since time immemorial.>>81289408That guy's gonna hop on his skateboard, put on his shades use words like "gnarly"
>Autreus Allastor, former Grand Duke of Hegerana turned Retributor of the Tempest Lords, is separated from his chamber while battling the armies of the bloodthirsty Red Palatines. Upon wandering the Xintilian desert, he discovers the last of his former subjects, forced from their homes by the Palatines and barely scraping an existence. Rather than seeking to return to his Stormhost, Autreus begins to dwell amongst the mortals, assisting in their gruelling labour. Over the course of several months, he not only earns their trust and hones their warrior skills but also reminds them of their proud heritage. Eventually, Autreus sends a band of riders to the nearest free city with a message before leading his people in a surprise march on the Palatines' fortress. Though Autreus does not survive the ensuing battle, his soul eviscerated by the cursed axes of the Khornates, his warriors succeed in blowing open the Bloodbound's defences – just in time for a Harbinger chamber of the Tempest Lords and cavalry dispatched from the city of Settler's Gain to arrive and finally end the Red Palatines.Damn they actually sound cool.
>>81289451Tempest Lords have shit color scheme but interesting rules and cool lore
>>81289451Tempest Lords are unironically the most based Stormhost. They have legitimate care for the people and aren't zealots like a few other Stormhosts. Pity their new rule sucks.
>>81289477>and aren't zealots like a few other Stormhosts.which is why the knights excelsiors are the uncontested top stormhost
Nagash gave it literal bone spurs lmao
>>81289376Sounds like s cool theme, might go with it and hope the rules gets a little better in the future. At least it might be okay for casual play with friends
>>81286652>TQSquig Parade List: I've gotta run every single squig unit, including the Squigapalooza, the Colossal Squig, and the Squig Gobba. There are harder gimmicks out there, but I kind of love the idea of a list running literally every single kind of squig in exclusion of everything else. Also I want to convert Skagrott to ride a cave squig as the Squigmancer.
>>81289477>the most basedYes yes, they were all kings and whatnot, but now they're busy suppressing human dissent against the aelfocracy of Yllurai Xhen. Once they were kings, now they are Quislings.
>>81289495Have you ever imagined an ossiarch with flesh and skin on top of his bone muscles? Nightmare fuel
>>81289529why would you do that?
>>81289529Or cool idea on conversion heavy army ^^
>>81289531Think about ossiriah legion cursed with "wanting to be alive" like flayed one's
>>81289280A band of Kruleboyz ended up getting sucked into Nurgle's Garden after they decided to poison water supplies and led to a plague among people trying to hide during Age of Chaos.
>>81289471Yeah it's not great. Although I think it's more annoying that their emblem is just a hand holding a mallet. A simple lightning bolt would be more apropos for their name.
Have we seen any previews of the full multipart Vindictors / Praetors yet?
>>81288641punga minis represent
>>81289540Isn't there a legion sorta like that, at least visually? IIRC there's one that transmutes bones so quickly that their dudes will often be caked in the blood of the people they used to be.
So if I choose to go with swamp horror sylvaneth, what would be a good starting 1000point list?
I've got a hunch that this is definitely a vampire who is absolutely going to be released for Warcry.
>>81289658The one that best symbolises “here comes the aeroplane” since it’s September and you want to be spoon fed.>read the rules for the game size>pick units you like as required>try to build around a gimmick or plan/strategy>see how it goes in a game or three>report back
>>81289771what army do you play?
>>81289781Yea guess I should have expected nothing useful from on here, do I will just crash into the local store and buy whatever
>>81289771Its obviously chaos multiparts
>>81289771Obviously an elf
>have sylvaneth >dont want to buy new trees because I have 6 sets of the old ones and they're basically needed now >dont want to make proxy trees for the same reason >have DoK >dont like how they play anymore >have wanders >lmao jk it's "living city" and bad to the point of not being enjoyable especially since literally nothing about cities of shitmar appeals to me I feel like I want to start another army, but nothing really speaks to me. It's especially frustrating because I like this edition, but I can't get behind the armies I have. Even beyond the tree memes for sylvaneth? There's other things I'd need to buy like a warsong Revenant and the passion is gone, especially with the constant FAQs ruining shit. I like morathi and the lore going on, but the army is a boring slog to play. The wanderers are just leftover wood elves with sisters of the watch thrown in because silly me for expecting a proper army once upon a time. To be honest, they're just waiting ToW at this point. The rest of armies, man idk. Chaos has no appeal and neither does destruction. Death is meh. Nighthaunt are cool. I played them for awhile but sold them to a friend who wanted into the game, but I don't think I could bring myself to buy that army from the group up again now that all the cheap Soul Wars shit is gone. Fuck this sucks.
>>81289771Obviously a new duardin
>>81289831What playstyle do you like?
>>81289831The constant struggle of a wargamer.Just do whatever you enjoy, maybe even try other non-gw games to find the spark you need
So where the books at?
>>81289887the shelves, man, right near battle for skull pass
Is there something to preorder for next saturday ?
>>81289545how it ended for Kruelboyz?
>>81289831>now that all the cheap Soul Wars shit is gone.I just got 10 Chainrasps for £5
>>81289917Literally the same way that it ended for those orks that ended up going to khorne's realm in 40k.It's literally the same story
>>81289861I have. It's not good because just about anything is better than GW games these days. The problem is there really isn't a scene here for anything else. I can't just walk into the store on game night and play a pickup game of say ASoIAF or MCP; I have to put feelers out and hope the other people that play aren't already planning on playing AoS/40k. It's maddening because I could play other games all day, but I'm lucky to get one a week because they're all just side games to everyone else. >>81289860At this point man, I don't even know
>>81289771Either a shadow blade or yet more fucking witch hunters
>>81289945I dont know 40k story
>>81289965Are witch hunters even good on the table? I've just realised I keep hearing about them in passing but I've never seen one fielded.
>>81289991If you ask me in two weeks I’ll let you know if BR hunters are any good. I vaguely recall hearing they kick ass ad well
>>81290052Cool, cool. See you in two weeks, anon.
>>81289952And you can't do intro games to see if you can hook more people? .. would love if more people played MCP in my area!
Are chaos chosen any good? I like the sculpts and how they've got an appearance more like the realm of chaos stuff without the fur and viking trappings.
>>81290067They buff units around them and dish out a lot of hurtYes they're useful
>>81290062You missed the part where its all a side game to them. They're interested, but only if they can't get their main game in.
>>81290080Sucks with the grip GW have on people, so many other good games out there
>>81286937This is so boring to look at, dude should've picked out at least some of the trim in different metallics
>>81289771Agreed. Those angles are vampirey
>>81289518They aren't suppressing it, they are keeping the Lumineth in check. It says in the new book that they hate working with them since they oppress the people
>>81290165>>81290171>>81290178Thank you so much for posting these!
>>81290165>>81290171>>81290178Thank you Anon. Is that all or is there more? Pity it's all kinda awful though.
>>81290171>here have some new ways to make your army a 1dropThis is so dumb
Have the SCE + Orruk Warclans battletomes been 'leaked' yet?
>>81290277Yes, they were fully up in multiple youtube vids the second the NDA was lifted on Saturday morning
>>81290232Always glad to help, but this time it isn't me taking the pictures.>>81290237The guy told me the rest is for PtG and open play, and didn't take pictures because "they don't matter".I still haven't got any WD yet, if they arrive today I will open one and take the rest of the pictures
>>81290237If anything you got off lucky. If it was a real battletome update half your artifacts, traits and spells would be deleted along with most of your warscroll abilities.
>TQRecycling grots. Not so much anymore thanks to the battalion going and reinforcements... Thanks GW
What are you working on /aosg/?
>>81290171So sick of the glyph shit and these boring ass fucking battalions. Oh wow unleash hell without spending a cp?! So interesting
>>81290351Warscroll Battalions died for this
>>81290368B-But it's not tournament friendly if I don't know what your battalion does. I'll heckin cry dude if a dice game isn't balanced
>>81290347I like the freehand stripes on the banner
>>81289601If only their Stormvermin weren't so expensive...
>>81290347Biostatistics for uni
>>81288795There was a clan of Grinnin' Blades in Neos, Ghyran. Tthe Big Yellers warclan originated in Ayadah, Chamon; and the Skulbugz warclan is descended from a colony in Chitinia, Shyish. Point is that Kruleboyz are everywhere there's a marshland to be lurked in.
>looted cogforts confirmed in Orruk WarclansFucking radical.
>>81290347Usual commission paintjobs.Scenery for 40k now, never again ever.After this I have 12 DragonOgors, then the guy I made Lumineth for wants more from me, then an entire army of 40k Iron Hands.I will not paint my own stuff for a very long time it seems, but my army now suck anyway so what's even the point.
>>81290675Why do you do commissions, sounds like hell
>>81290628That's good. It's something I was worried about when all they talked about was Ghur.
>>81290682Government is trying to kill my business, with the excuse of virus.How dare me paying taxes and creating jobs?! Can't have that.I still need to pay rent and this is the only thing I can do until I set things straight, and see if I need to close everything and fire my employees or I'm able to survive somehow.
>>81290754Ah that's fair, sorry to hear that anon. May I ask what country you're from and what your business serves?
>>81290761Italy, a small company of 4 people in the food industry.
>>81290786I thought restaurants and stuff reopened in Italy
>>81290409Slightly off topic, but I remember to this day a certain "hardcore" video game community. It was for like, Age of Mythology or something, a silly RTS game that was never particularly balanced or trying to be.Anyway, the hardcore competitive types had their own little secret forum aside from the dev one, and one day they proudly rolled out their list of demands for the AoM devs that they'd been working on for weeks and making sure all their little waac minds were in agreement.It was, not even shitting you, "Every army should be exactly the same, just with different aesthetics, because that's balanced, and all the UI etc needs to be as primitive as possible blah blah blah"I keep that memory close, not because it's important, but because it reminds me of why I fucking hate Tourney-Fags and their secret desires.
>>81290847Honestly, I have seen more crying about Battalions being removed from tourneyfags than others. I highly doubt tournament play is the reason they removed them.
>The Big Yellers prize loud noise over stealth and riotous colour over subtle intimidation. Why hide away when they are clearly the best and brightest of all orrukdom? True predators are loud and proud, strutting their stuff and letting the prey run in terror before them. There is a nugget of truth to this maxim, just as there is to the warclan's airy claims that they are masters of deadly machines. Originating from Ayadah in the Realm of Metal, they have close ties with Skrappa Spill, and they boast more Deffspikerz than any other warclan. They consider themselves the best shots of all orruk-kind and tell each other that they can even out-shoot the sky-stunties of the Spiral Crux if needed, which is patently untrue.They're noted to be the laziest of orruks, to the point where they tend to launch waaaghs downriver if possible, so they can avoid walking.
>>81290866I think they removed them because dropping as 1 and giving an artifact was already so strong sometimes that the effect didn't matter, and that made them incredibly hard to balance. It also forced people to take certain models in the wrong way, which made it harder to just buy a new box of models to run them in your army
>>81290347Same thing anon, such a good model
>>81286652>TQIt would almost certainly have to be a narrative play game, but I would love to run Nagash and all five Mortarchs together, with maybe one or two squads from each of their respective armies. The Death cast are my favorite characters in all of AoS, so seeing them all on the table at once has been something of a dream scenario for me, even if I suspect it wouldn’t be very powerful.
>>81290821Kind of. They make you close in the best season and let you open in the worst seasons, so many restaurants and bars have financial problems now. Also, unless you have a garden of some sort, half of your customers won't have the pass and you can't have them.Not that many people care, but in Italy there an absurd overlegislation and overburocracy, so basically every single business in Italy is illegal somehow because there too many laws that contradict each others, and tribunals take absurd amount of time to resolve any controvercies.That is made so police and politicians can force to close and/or fine everybody they want, and they do want to.All supplies here were forced to throw away millions of euros of expire products, so they are in debt now, transports didn't work because of that, and Banks won't help because the Government clearly stated on TV that they want small businesses to fail, so they won't invest and give loans because it's not safe.
>>81290909Sorry about it anon
>>81290898Personally, my biggest issue with battalions is that they didn't really replace them with anything. All those cool flavorful battalions that existed mostly to buff non-meta units didn't get rolled into those models warscrolls or subfactions, if anything they seem to be nerfing bad units even more by removing the few warscroll abilities they already had. Likewise big battalions that massively reduce drops still exist, they literally just added two of them for STD, and they already overshadow every other type of battalion, because reducing drops is always better than "use x command ability once for free".
Are Nurgle, Slaanesh, and Sylvaneth the only armies that feature hero models playing instruments
>>81290171>>81290178>hey, we got rid of faction specific battalion in 3ed!>except we didn't lmaoReally tired of your shit, GW.
>>81290957You will enjoy no-flavour rulesYou will NOT mention the lack of command abilities for your heroes
>>81291071Yeah, lets talk about removing Command Abilities. Ok fine, heroes don't have CAs anymore, I'm sure there's other ways GW can balance them and give them a unique role, lets take a look at the new battletomes...Oh, OH. So 90% of the time you took a hero who was basically just used for his CA, stripped that away, added nothing, and now he's just a bland statline competing with 12 other near identical statlines in the same book. Awesome, much flavor, tons of depth and strategy unlocked.
>>81291081RIP my favourite unit for 2 editions :(
>>81290165Post ptg stuff
>>81291174RIP? What happened to him?
>>81291251he lost his ability to give units run/retreat/charge and his horn blast now activates on 2+ instead of being guaranteedhe got nothing in returnno reason to ever bring him
>>81291378CHINA WILL GROW LARGER
>>81291119Yeah, that's absolutely retarded. Command abilities were an unambiguously great thing about the game, a great way for heroes to being its weight in an unique way that made sense with the fluff and was beyond an attack statline. Why the fuck they removed them
>>81291397Does Cathay even do anything in Fantasy?
>>81291314Omg yeah just seen it. Wtf. A horn blower with no support abilities???
>>81291378Awesome trailer. Can’t wait to play them.Also, considering the fact that GW went and wrote a whole 8th edition army book for them so CA could translate that to the game, I’d say they’re a good candidate for addition into The Old World. I’d gladly buy some of their minis.
>>81291404No, this is the first time they got introduced as an active faction.
>>81291378>>81291420Seeing as how Old World is 28mm....and knowing GW likes to double dip.....would maybe a City of Sigmar army based on them be a thing?
>>81291417Knight Questor also lost his awesome Tanking ability
>>81291378why is their army 90% women
>>81291404They were almost definitely the ones who created the Great Maw.
>>81291448I could see it happening. The balloons look fucking cool.
>>81291378i dont play tww but this trailer was bretty gud. Cant wait for how nice a chorf trailer would be
>>81290165>>81290171>>81290178This is pretty weak. I'm not a well-versed player by any means, but all this basically gives is cultists battleline and a one-drop battalion. I was hoping for some warscroll changes.
>>81290957Yeah. I used Deathriders to get more mileage out of my favourite rule for Nighthaunt, same with the Skullcrushers battalion for BoK. There's nothing to replace these now. As I understand it, the SCE tome improved unit stats across the board, so I just have to hope that my favourite non-meta units will get the same treatment in X years.
>>81291378>Cathay is all chinese people>Bretonnia is all white french homos>Empire is all white europeans>Kislev is all adidas wearing slavs>all can war with each other, no token blacks in every race for no reason>All the races are represented but separate>in AoS all races are represented in 1 diverse multicultural army free of hate: the stormcast eternalsWHFB chads, i kneel.
>>81291081>looking through telescopethats not a horn you retard
>>81291555What are you even talking about
>>81291417This is the exciting design direction 3rd edition is headed in. He's not remotely the only hero that just got completely gutted.
>>81291378Between the airships, mass guns, and facing off against a giant flying Tzeentch army, I was getting serious KO vibes from the first half of the trailer, NGL.
>>81291589What is the NOTchina, NOTeurope and NOTrussia in AoS each with their own cultural theme and lore?Oh wait you dont get that, you get the united states of sigmar
>>81291589Minorities live rent free in his head anon.
>>81291571o sorry the one with a horn ability and space for his mouth to sound the trumpet is not a hornblower
>>81291482They look super cool. As someone with a KO army though, I don't think I can justify owning even more balloon ships.
>>81291378in the designer commentary they talked about rule writers for the army, meaning Cathay is coming to TOW because they didnt have rules or an official book in WHF
>>81291664Yeah. They took the time to write a whole 8th ed army book for Cathay.That’s what the double asterisks clarify at the end of the article.
>>81291617>I want token representation of every real world race and country. Fuck sctual fantasyBurgers like you are easy to spot. Imagin how cringe would stuff like NH be if they went all in on being Spanish
>>81291378>army is all women>big balloon crashes implying she could have survived instead of exploding in the air from LoC boltsAre they not allowed to show women dying anymore?
>>81291696>Fantasy is dead They said and I laughed.
>>81291664I mean, they said they literally wrote up Warhammer stats for every single model in the army and then let CA translate those to video game form as they wished, so yeah.
>>81291724>burgerI think he was making fun of burgers because he said the United States of Sigmar.
>>81291378>Cathay will get rules in TOW Game's already better than WHFB
>>81291617>Sigmar is globohomoI hate cities of sigmar and sigmarites
>>81291736oh wow i cant wait to see them push back chaos before the end times happen
>>81291724I know you’re putting him on blast and as a jalapeño burger, I say good on you, but > NH be if they went all in on being Spanishthrough Mexico’s association with Spain, gave me the idea of wanting to see a NH army painted up like Dia de Muertos.
Uh this is the Age of Sigmar general, not f*nt*sy.
>>81291750Race obsesed burgers hate America, so a random attack on themselvs is even more in character
>>81291787>sigmarwhere did sigmar and all the gods in AoS come from?know your place dog
>>81291787Sorry Anon, but CHINA NUMBA WUN we're gona spam about China faction in China the Game and you're gona rove it
>>81291830The best part about china in EVERYTHING is that they cant put any PoC or gay characters in anything chinese or it will get rejected when it goes to the chinese market.BASED CHYNA
>>81291827they came from the end times
I got 50 Storm vermin that I want to use as battleline, it's better to make one unit of 30 and two of 10 or two of 20 and one of 10?
>>81291888>Warhammer Fantasy Battle: The End Times: ArchaonDo you even own one of the books?
>>81291787If China is cannon in fantasy then it's cannon in AoS.
>>81291863This I LOVE CHINA AND THE CHAIRMAN XI. I WILL BUY CATHAY PRODUCT, UPVOTE CATHAY POST AND REPORT ALL WHO SPEAK UP AGAINST CATHAY
>>81291910why would i own dead fantasy stuff? wrong general bub
>like Ironjawz, like Kruleboyz>but REALLY just want a classic Orcs and Goblins armyWhy're they gone friends?
>>81291927It canonically went extinc 8n ET as you can see by 0 asian characters in all of AoS over the last 6 years. AoS is free of chinksectoid presence and with Loomies taking up all of Asian inflcance from India to Japan, there is no place for thrm
>>81291939This but unironically. China is the future and I kneel to Xi.
>>81291975Cause they were too similar to 40k, but were worse than orkz. IJ also tried going in those directions, which id why they got replaced as the face of Warclans by a 180 from Orkz
So this looks huge, but based on the price I assume it wil be about the same size as Reikenor
>>81291903make sure you put them on square bases for TOW
>>81291378Those golems reminded me of jade empire.
If TOW ever comes out AoS will be a dead game
>>81292126AoS is already a dead game
>>81292126>This bait again
Why wont these WHF losers leave us AoSchads alone?Who needs total war? we have good video games like Realm War
Remember lads, GW moving parts of production back to UK is a good thing
>>81292189I don't think Total War screenshots are appropriate on /tg/
>>81292209Not really. It would be better if they moved it to the US. UK quality isn't super great and it's expensive.
>>81292126One of the two will be dead game and I don't think it will be the one which doesn't require you to remake and rebase your army again.
Those mfucker turned out to be way harder to paint than they look. There's a lot of moment when I have no idea what texture is supposed to be where
>>81292265TOW will subsist on secondaries buying a small amount of models, realizing that it's not TW or Vermintide, then quitting in a cycle.
>>81289771Looks elf, hopefully Malerion's lads are on the way!
>>81292126TOW won't kill AoSAoS' shitty 3.0 and 3.0 tomes will
So the new vulture is a $140Is he way bigger than he looks, or are his rules so insane that GW wants you to pay out the nose for it?
>>81292354Monster on a 130mm base. It’s the centerpiece standard price nowadays.
>>81292390130mm, thought it was 80/100Okay, so he's fucking huge
>>81292404>expected varan and vulture to be the same size>varan is way smaller and vulture is bigger
>>81292354He's pretty big. It's a lot of real world cash for a 300 point model, though.
>>81292327Sad but possibly true.
>>81292497That's a lot of money for a scenic branch, but fuck it's a cool model
>>81292354The killaboss is good because he can issue an already issued command ability in the same phase to a different unit.But the Sludgeraker is just straight up better.
I'm trying to do stormcast army that merges them with the WFB empire aesthetic, especially the look of demigryph knights and the magic chariotsWhat basing scheme should I go for in line with this? I ask because I'm building a counts-as Yndrastra (will be male) and I need to create an elevated base to match
>>81292287The kruleboyz are generally more advanced models as far as both painting and play. I mean I'm glad I got to get a holdnof a bunch of em cheap because of the starter box, but a starter army they are not
>>81291997I agree, gib Han wife.
>>81292354Wait till u see 200+bucks stormcasts "big" drogons.
>>81292651Could unironically be anything, what colorscheme did you have in mind?
>>81292752Fortunately I'm a faggot for birds not Disney scale-sona dragons
Dont mind meIm just fielding 120 chaos warriors and a chaos lord in a 1 drop
>>81292799Probably something like that pic but with less redI want a warrior priest crossed with a knight feel
>>81292828What a useless core battalion. Battle Regiment is far better.
>>81292845Sorry i couldnt hear you over my 120 chaos warriors going first as i had 1 drop
>>81291119I mean SCE have so many fucking heroes that was pretty much the problem anyway in any other army im sure its not nearly as bad.
>>81292870Is that even a good list?
>>81292870Sorry Anon, we don't play Open Play at this place. Go lick the light sockets with the rest of the salty alcoholics
>>81292651Pick where you want to set the army and grab a gsw texture roller to match. The putty used will raise the models a few mm.
>>81292651Ruined temple base
OTHER THINGS FROM WD>Ogroid Myrmidon, Darkoath Warqueen/Chieftan and CULTISTS units (see: warcry warbands) can be given a mark of chaos>CULTISTS units with the same Mark of Chaos as the General are now BattlelineSo yes, you can now spam Tzeentch Iron Golem
>>81292941I like this
>>81292941It's absolutely useless, but I guess it's neat.
>>81291420Its guaranteed at this point , they mention the old world so many times in the community article and it would make sense seeing as how they're already doing this with kislev
>>81292998They mention itBut they didnt actually sayWouldnt it have been the perfect place to say Cathay would be in TOW?
>>81286652>TQA full army of those Dragon Riders in SCE with Karazai
>>81293057what about the concept art with THE OLD WORLD slapped on it?
>>81290165We finally have Cultist Battleline with marks Actual good change
>>81293057I don't think they've "confirmed" a single thing for ToW other than maybe kislev. Still they posted a bunch of model concept art with the old world logo plastered all over it, that's as close to unofficial confirmation as you can get.
>>81292941Corvus Cabal and Cypher Lords... of Khorne?
Any new fluff in this month's WD? Like about StD in the Era of GHHUUURRR?
I can't prime because there's a tropical storm outside :(
>>81292941Holy shit I am so doing Savages of Slaanesh
>>81293208Thats what im sayingIt all has ToW plastered all over it.....but nothing on it actually BEING ToWJust strange is all, they wouldve confirmed it for ToW there
>>81291736It is. Now they are making some shitty 2,0 version out of its corpse. I couldn't care less, but grognards will be seething.
What’s this? Just found it in a bag of my old mates 2001 chaos warriors.
>>81293374Ta ta there retard idk how you can be this mentally deficient
>>81292806I don't understand this memeI also prefer the birds though
>>81293414That is a poorly made Amanita muscaria mushroom man, you fucking retard. Fuck you.
Other random things from the bag, all resin though.
>>81293414Morghur, old school Beastlord/Bray shaman character now worshiped by the Twisted-fray.
>>81293481Blimey £50. That will get me a new 3rd edition bloodbowl team :)
Some anon mentioned it in a previous thread. >Tempest Lord AngelsAll flying units.Prosecuters are probably my favorite gen 1 Stormcast unit. Kinda sucks that the Champion can't take the Trident anymore. And that they removed all the Great Weapon abilities.
>>81293423>"look at all this cathay stuff, we put ToW logos on it!">"oh so its coming to ToW?">"...."Meanwhile with Kislev>"Look at all these Kislev units in the gameplay, oh and its coming to ToW exactly as you see it!"
>>81292651This the WIP for the male yndrastra counts-as
>>81291681>Literally Aether Wars Looks cool ngl
What is the cooler animal-man faction, Skaven or Beastmen?
>>81293535Be sure to strip it first
coomers are disgusting i hope you degenerates get brain tumors
>>81291378BROS ITS ALREADY GOT KORE VIEWS THAN THE 3RD EDITION VIDEO!!!ARE WE IN TROUBLE
How much is left over from building a Mega Gargant? Like can you 3d print just some legs and a torso and you got another one?
>>81293634Naa vidya always attracts more attention
>>81293617Will do. Just about to do all my metal bloodbowl stuff to repaint and I went through that old bag. Found a metal 2002 bb ogre, 5 skinks, a fungus the loon, 3x ‘84 golfags ogres (1 with broken mace) and an ‘84 troll.
Oh and this thing but it’s lost it’s arm
>>81293614Skaven have been overrun by furriesBeastmen are rape fetishists
>>81293554Post your address so I can ship you some when they come out. After all, your chimp brain won't believe that they're real unless you are grabbing them in your greasey hands smashing them together like action figures
>>81293749>Skaven have been overrun by furriessince when?
>>81293409I'm a grognard and I'm laughing.>get TOW added to the ranks KOW, 9th age, Oathmark, WAP, and more rank and flank games>Cathay as an army>possible return of OOP units
>>81293815What's this hodgepodge of units supposed to be
>>81293842Left is wood elves.Middle is high elves.Right is dark elves.These are my models.
>>81293749>Beastmen are rape fetishiststhat would be Fimir. Beastmen are just a product of corrupting influence of chaos. Could happen that your beautiful wife gives birth to monster that slithers away into the forest after 9months, but there was no rape - that is unless AoS changed the WHFB lore in that regard.
>>81293811Looks like since vermintide 1 judging by rule 34
>>81293859beastmen got models of them dragging away females, cope some more
what's the coolest vampire for soulblight? I generally prefer the bonereavers but the vampires offers some interesting personality
>>81293749Ain't the beastmen's fault that human and elven women can't contain themselves.
>>81293876they were probably trying to return her home. they are tired of her.
>>81293876nah, that was the champion for Mordheim you are talking about, right? That's just par for the course of "looting" miniatures. You can find loads of those for vikings and whatnot too. Not saying Beastmen are necessarily above it, but for the Fimir it's their explicit, canonical and only way to reproduce. So saying anybody else is the rape fetish faction is a bit silly.
>>81293921It wasn't even that explicit for fimir it was basically just implied
>>81293881Here is hoping one day you will get to ally them, seriously bonereapers getting no allies is dumb
>>81293881If the vampires are cooler then pick your favorite. Stupid question you crowdsourced opinion pussy
>>81293952yeah, I really like both aesthetics and would like a bit of both if I could.>>81293965was just trying to get a topic going, I was curious what other people thought. Take it easy, champ.
>>81293944I'd say it's pretty explicit, unless you are implying the "captured human women" are into it.
Does anybody know the new battletome's unit size for Ardboyz?
>>81293208Man ill jump on cathy in either game if they get a proper release but gw and non stormcast releases are ehh and who even knows how tow will be treated.
>been playing aos for months with friend>i need to look up command abilities and stats every game>he has all his shit memorizedHe's never a jerk about it, but anyone else suffer from just being retarded? And sorry to all you smart people who need to play with us idiots.
>>81293811If you want to do yourself a supreme disfavor you can just go to the arch.b4k.co archive and search for "queek" and "cute" together.
>>81293562much better than the original I still dont like the wing though, they insert too low on the body and should come out the shoulders/scapula
>>81293857>>81293815>he didnt rebase to rounds>he has many armies but mono-racialbased.But get that shit painted holy shit man you've had 55 years
>>81294224These are fairly new models I got, had Orcs and Goblins back in the day but they were destroyed moving back and forth from Mexico.
>>81294351>orcs to elvesrace traitor I guess you aren't a MexiCan. You are a MexiCan't.
>>81294401After years of greenskins you just need something new you know?
>>81292055Where did you see the price?
>>81293859>Beastmen are just a product of corrupting influence of chaosIs that lore still canon? I mean, yeah of course beastmen can be created through chaos corruption, but i think in AoS there is lore of Beastmen tribes that existed before chaos and even lived in harmony with others.
>>81294530Beastmen are just leftover Broo models from when GW had the license from Glorantha.
I really like the colour skeleton horde makes over yellows. contrasts with different bases is fun to work with.
>>81294553And? All i'm saying is that there is lore in AoS that paints beastmen as more than just a product of chaos, but that there were beastmen tribes that lived like other races, but turned to chaos when they were attacked
>>81294747>Let me take something definitively evil by every standard and give it a noble savage sobstoryI hate this kind of writing
>>81294747Beastmen in AoS developed before Aelves, Humans, etc came into being, but they're not wholly natural creatures and don't exist in harmony with their environment like other species' do. The Hyshian Beastmen in question were a notable exception to this, but the others still had links to Chaos even before the Chaos Gods were drawn to the Mortal Realms.
>>81294034I may have overreacted
>>81294789I, for one, appreciate evil with a backstory instead of evil just because
>>81294833I found it interesting that some Beastmen took to looking down on the Chaos gods and their followers because in their eyes relying on the power of some sky god is weak and not very metal.
>>81295115Yeah their backstory is that they're mutant children who're abandoned to the forest
>>81295126The current iteration of the beastmen is probably the best it's ever been. They just need a total range redo to get them up to standard.
>>81295198Agreed. They need competitive new rules and a replacement for the finecast shit. The plastic kits still hold up amazing imo. Minotaurs are a little derpy, but they still get the job done.
>>81295198I would totally get into them with me sculpts with better beast variety. I think they're really cool but just needs more visually.
gonna be honest, those cow elves are fucking cool
>>81295348I like their lore a lot. But most of the kits have details I wish were changed in the design phase. Cow head toppers are the worst offenders, but shit like warden spears makes the army inconvenient to collect.
>>81295348the studio scheme does them no favors
>>81293537>champion cant take TridentWhat? They could always do it before. Also how cool is that they included an option to take a single Dracoth since if you bought the box and turned one into a Lord Celestant the other one was useless.
>>81295378i love the helms honestly. them encapsulate aelven arrogance in the most perfect way
>>81295378The horn really do it for me, I can't explain it>>81295393what's your problem with it?
>>81295405In certain art pieces they aren’t as offensive and I get where you’re coming from. On the models, though, the helmets are as tall as the model from the neck down and it looks so bad to me.
>>81295450>On the models, though, the helmets are as tall as the model from the neck down and it looks so bad to me.You see, that's what makes them perfect. "Our superiority and big dick helmets over practicality"
>>81295423bland, no contrast to the colors, it does little to make the details pop, especially all the engravings and such.
>>81295399hey that means nurgle players might get the same
>>81292126Here we go fucking again. It will be once again dead. Nigger. Stop baiting people into that shit. Touch some grass.
>>81295468I don’t disagree. It just comes off as silly on the models. In the art, this dude looks like FUCKS.
what are those cows with paws that the elves ride? they look fucking cool. I was just looking at their range of models and they're kind of awesome.
>>81295621The kangaroos are called Treerunners, the one the lord-regents ride are called Lightcoursers.
>>81295650lightcourses are so sweet, damnI want a cow army now
>>81295598wouldn't look as ridiculous if they kept closer to the proportions in the art
>>81295791That’s what I mean.
>>81294081Yeah, they explicitly reproduce with human women but that's not exactly intended to be rape and the writers have said as much. They were referencing Irish/Celtic myth where the intricacy of rape wasn't really explored or considered. They were just pretty naive.
>>81295598Adding testosterone from bull testickles was Teclis's attempt to cure homosexuality among aelves and keep the fertility rate above 0,01. The outcome of the experiment were elven males who are interested in something other than elven males. Cow hats are the side effect of it.
>>81296059Shouldnt be that big a shock desu. It was 5 in the GHB. Dont know how you could bring more than 10 anyways desu with coherency rules and all.
>>81295989>They were just pretty naive.That's a bit of a stretch, if you ask me. Irish/Celtic lore is not exactly squeamish when it comes to those things either. But if you imagine that the women that were kidnapped or enslaved enjoy consensual intercourse with half-demon potatoheaded cyclopses that is your prerogative I guess.
What is Swampboss Skumdrekk's base size?
>>81296157There's a blog where the writer's chimed in so idk what to say. It's stuff like Baylor's daughter and the fact something like wardship was common place among the Irish. Is this a rape fetish thing? Fimir raped obviously but the writers have said they weren't thinking of it too deeply and that they regret it.
>>81296240Even if the initial writer didn't think of it, everybody else did. In the 1st edition WFRPG they mention trading specifically with female slaves for the purposes or procreation. Slaves usually don't get to have a say in anything.It's one of those thing where back when it was written nobody would have blinked an eye, but if you were to write it these days you'd get crucified. Not to mention Fimir are montrous villains. They're supposed to be horrifying. If it's actually true and either Priestley, Halliwell or Bryan Ansell addressed this somewhere I'd be inclined to say they're probably just trying to cover their asses. Cause who need the aggravation, right?Fimir are just interesting cause they one of the few things that are distinctly warhammer because they were not inspired by repurposing existing dnd or lotr miniatures or something like that afaik.
>High TierHallowed KnightsKnights Excelsior>Mid TierHammers of SigmarCelestial Vindicators>Low TierAstral TemplarsCelestial Warbringers>Shit TierTempest LordsAnvils of the Heldenhammer
>>81296391Im assuming you mean rules and not lore.
Has anyone here tried giving their Stormcasts a head conversion, kinda like pic related?
>>81296372Zoats too. I would say Chorfs given afaik GW are the earliest on it with the old chaos renegades and such. Not totally original given Dwarfs but yeah.
It seems to be a given that sub-allegiances no longer have the command-trait and artefact tax. So why do all the sub-allegiances introduced in the Broken Realms still have them? They're there specifically to set up 3E but burden the factions not getting updated for a while with 2e rubbish?
>>81296443Broken Realms was not designed for 3e, obviously. It was all about battalions.
>>81296427when stormcast first dropped it's pretty much what everyone did. Can dump a couple of pics for you.
>>81296589these aren't swaps but close enough, eh?
>>81295598>>81296566>WFG talking about cool shit>at the same time aosg is talking about how they like the 2 biggest failures of design in AoS. Fatcast and Cow hatsWell have a good one guys. Its obvious which is the superior game and thread.
>>81290881I have found my people
>>81296427Where do I get heads like >pic related?
>>81291781I've got blacklight paints and a desire to own a death army. Hmm
Were there more slaves to darkness updates in the white dwarf than just the ones we've seen today?
>>81296630Bretonnian stormcast look fucking stupid
>>81296783all stormcast look fucking stupid.
>>81296958reddit callsyou must return
>>81297029>Implying SCE aren't the reddit armyGo look there. Its all Stormposting.
stormcast really grew on me and at this point I think people only dislike them because they are the flagship army and they want to feel special for liking something else
>>81296391Hammers might be best for current meta. 6++ around objectives is really strong. Otoh Hallowed knights can run Stormkeep abd castle up with Gardus. 20 vindictors = counts as 60 models, Gardus gives them a 5++, the fight when they die on a 4+, take a Vexillor to resurrect them. I plan on trying this with a min unit of Praetord and Gotrek to anchor and kill.
>>81297107cant run 20 vindictors, max 15hammers isnt bad, hallowed knights is just better
>>81297072>flagship armyWHF was good because it didnt have a flagship army.Stormcast are the flagship army and thats why they are lame. They blended whatever was popular at the time into their models and they show their age now. Those haircuts and armor style is from 2014 and it shows. Nobody is doing this shit anymore
>>8129707290% of Stormcast haters are secondaries who don't even play the game.
>>81296707Its literally Sister of Battle heads. Easy 5o buy bits of.
>>81296707It's from the Freeguild Greatswords kit
>>81297151I don't think that is even remotely why WHF was good, what?
>>81297132Two units of 10, son.Hammers is arguablu better if you are doing Stormdrake Guard spam which why wouldn't you? They are criminally undercosted and good. Unit of 6 is 36 wounds at 3+/6++ (on objectives) , -1 to wound them and 4+ spell shrug and have good odds on Rallying. I'd still prefer Gardus but he is too slow to keep up with them and these boys really want to delete shit that is on an objective.
>>812973211. Gardus can drop in with Scions2. Drakes are really good but Drake spam is inefficient. You want Draconis and 1x4 or 1x6 Drakes at most, MSU is not good
>>81297072Some old heroes are good and nucast look great. As per usual the Hammers of Sigmar paint scheme makes them look horrid when they aren't. Ironically, if you invert it they look a lot better..
>>81297321drakes are a very good tar pit with good enough damage that they cant be ignored, but drakes dont do enough damage for their points to get through Archaon or hundreds of skeletonsbetter to use use annihilators, protectors, or fulminators than drakes for damage
>>81297156Never underestimate the contrarian who thinks not liking things makes him cooler
>>81297374That's a chonky-looking Ultramarine.
>>81297151WHF absolutely had a flagship army. Empire was the dominant faction in Fantasy, being the protagonist faction that every other was viewed through.
>>81297356That is what you run yes, then min Vindictor units to fill out your remaining battleline. Flavor to taste with Longstrikes or whatever.
>>81297374I can never take thus mini seriously with those tiny kiddy baby hammers on his cape. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea?
>>81297385Most people disliked stormcast at the start, and frankly i still do. The fact that they get more releases than everyone else just makes it worse.
>>81297382Protectors do shit damage now anon. The dream is dead.
>>81297393>Empire was the dominant faction in Fantasy>only in 1 starter box>elves were in 2>O&G were in 2ok bud
>>81297471>Protectors do shit damage now anon. The dream is dead.you mean shitloads of damage right? 10 protectors dudes is 4 starsouls and a lot of glaive attacks at Rend-210 protectors is 16 damage to a 3+ save every turn, or 24 damage if you use the holy command for +1 Attack15 protectors is even more nuts, can kill a 2+/5++ 20W monster in one turn by themselvesand then they're a 30/45 wound tarpit with 2+ save all the time
>>81297534Which is a good thing that the starter boxes were spread out across the factions nowdays if you dont like sigmarines or marines no starter box for you.
>>81296078I don't really understand the way Gutrippaz are costed. Still going to try and run a block of 20, but I'm assuming it's going to fuck me in the ass.Even with a shaman nearby they still seem like they're just going to get absolutely destroyed without doing much back.
>>81297444I play underworlds and I hate stormcasts with a passion. They will have SIX warbands. They have more warbands than most warbands have fighters. I thought we're getting somewhere with Beastgrave and Direchasm box set not having stormcasts but damn, this latest box will be Kruleboys and another Stormcast chamber.
Can anyone explain the difference in gameplay between Warcry and Underworlds? Warcry is only Chaos warbands?
>>81297645Underworlds is a tactical card game with models Warcry is a skirmish game with similar but different rules to AoS.
>>81297604You WILL buy stormies anon. You aren't a mysonynistic RACIST are you?
>>81297645What the other guy said, but no it's not just chaos. Most infantry in the game have warcry rules.
>>81297151>WHF was good because it didnt have a flagship army.I'll take who were the Empire for 200
>>81297785Don't disprove his argument anon, that's not fair.
Is Sacrosant any good? I have a bunch of Sequitors and Evocators on Dracolines around
>>81289771I have a dreadful feeling that's Felix. Long flowing hair and a dragon hilt longsword, also what appears to be a cloak
>>81297534>>81297972Is starter box your only measure of flagship army? Because that's not how it works.
>>81298134how well is the empire represented outside of the tabletop game? I think that makes a big difference, if they get lots of video game and novels and stuff
>>81298193The empire was not only the lens you saw the world and other factions through but also the baseline to judge them against
>>81297534>>81298134Empire was always the ones who got the spotlight. 90% of material was from the empire point of view. They were the primary target of the main badguys. They were taught magic because teclis thought the humans were "special" Every other race was secondary to them
>>81298228I don't know anything about whf besides vermintide 2
>>81297579Squad of 10 buffed by a shaman and in a sludgeraker's aura are doing 10.5 mortal wounds, which isn't bad.
>>81298193The vast majority of video games and novels and everything else were from the perspective of the Empire yes. Why are you trying to talk like you know anything about WHFB if you don't even know that?
>>81298369You know the sludgeraker buff isn't affected by the shaman's buff right? Is the math still right?
>>81297579Gutrippaz are essentially a tax, given how cheaply everything else In the army is costed. A lot of other stuff is very very cheap for what you get, so ultimately it works out in the wash, buy I feel a lot of lists are only going to run 1 or 2 units of gutrippaz and then some boltboyz out to fill out battleline in big yellers. Kruleboyz overall are wierd because they are more of a glass anvil. They are squishy, but they also want you to charge them so they can throw grenades in your face and unleash hell with crossbows. I think basically you park some gutrippaz on objectives with a mirebrute troggoth to back em up, and then some boltboyz nearby, and just tempt the opponent to try to peel you off it.
>>81298443They do stack somewhat. The shaman makes it go off on 5s, and the sludgeraker makes 6s do +1. So for example gutrippaz with 20 attacks would proc 3 hits of 1 venom with 5s, and then 3 hits of 2 venom with the 6s, for a total of 9 venom wounds, plus any other damage from non venom hits
>>81298443Yes. You're doing 2 mortal wounds on a 6, and 1 mortal wound on a 5. With 21 attacks for a unit of 10, that comes out at 3.5 hits doing 2 mortal wounds, and 3.5 doing 1, for 10.5 total.
>>81298466The whole army is mostly made of wet paper indeed. And they want to fight to fish for mortals, but they haven't got the speed to get there either.I feel like the army would really benefit from more distraction carnifexes, but you can't even ally in Mawcrushas. >>81298505>>81298515Actually, yes that math is correct. That's.. Not great, not terrible. I wish the Gutrippaz just had a little something more. Two damage baseline or something like that. Besides rolling sixes it doesn't seem like the unit has anything going for it.
>>81289771This looks very similar to the Rumor engine with the lion creature. Maybe the same army?
>>81298425because I don't want want to know more, I'm not the anon that was arguing.