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Since there's clearly a contingent of the board that thirsts for dragons and enjoys focusing on the dragony aspects of ttrpgs, why not just have a thread where we can contain it and not derail every thread with so much as a kobold in it?

Personally, my favorite depiction (and RPG function) of dragons is in Shadowrun, where they're basically indestructible, and are 90% of the johnsons in every game you play.
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>>81274310
we like city drakes
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>>81274320
itty bitty drakes
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Dragon professor :D
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>>81274329
no wingy drakes
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>>81274351
hoarding thingy drakes
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>>81274358
giant drakes, with the huge hoard
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>>81274362
good luck killing drakes, with a broadsword
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>>81274310
I like it when they're divas
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>>81274310
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>itt:
just call the thread cult of the dragon general you dumbass
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Bahamut > Tiamat. Stop simping for a happy-meal knockoff of the beast of revelations and get a pure churchgoing metallic battle-buddy.
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Dragon eyes <3
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>>81275244
that's a better name, yeah
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>>81276079
still dumping art
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>>81274310
Dragons deserve nothing more than to be ridden by noble knights.
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>>81282325
Gross
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>dozens of meters
>at least 1 ton

imagine
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alright, how many % of the /tg/ population is actually kobolds? Dont think I'm not onto your dragon-simping asses
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>>81274351
Fat Lizard Spouse.
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>>81282471
More like at least 100 tons. For comparison elephant is half a dozen meters and already weights 3-4 tons.
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>>81282538
elephants are also heavy-boned herbivorous land mammals, while dragons likely have hollow bones and additional air sacs like birds to allow for flight.
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Heil Borys! Heil Alduin!
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>>81282586
lol no. if they did, they would be weak as shit
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a proper dragon needs thick thighs, a plump tail and a squishy, huggable underside. Skinny bodies are the signs of pathetic, unsuccessful hunters after all
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>>81282702
birds are pretty strong for their size. An eagle is strong enough to carry off a human child, now scale that up to dragon size. It would end up being stronger than what DnD presents in its monster handbook
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>>81282745
Congratulations, you now have a giant glass cannon that can't take a hit and dies from any sort of injury even if it kills its attackers.
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lithe, sinuous dragons have their own appeal
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Half dragon women...
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>>81282843
>ywn be treasured by a dragon
>ywn be the most precious thing to him
>ywn be considered the crown jewel of his hoard that he would fight to the death over
why even live, guys
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>>81285371
>>ywn be treasured by a dragon
>>ywn be the most precious thing to her
>>ywn be considered the crown jewel of her hoard that she would fight to the death over
Fixed
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>>81285815
Imagine being male and wanting to get dommed by a giant lizard-woman who is better than you in every way. I bet you'll marry a negress
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>>81286057
Well, not that negresses are smarter, just stronger than your onions arms and probably weighs more and will definitely push you around
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>>81286057
>Implying you wouldn't happily spelunk the dragoness
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>>81286213
Nope. I'm firmly on the sub side
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>>81286227
>Wants to sub
>But not for a dragoness
Or am I misunderstanding things?
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>>81286258
He is gay.
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>>81286295
gynoid, actually
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>>81274310
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>>81286295
Well, I figured he could still understand another's appreciation of the dragonic form
Also, that's a weird dragon

>>81286334
Would explain it, if you're referring to >>81286295's pic at least
And I will admit, a gynoid dragoness has interesting implications
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>>81286334
Whatever you say, homo.
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>>81286383
>gynoid dragoness
there is no other type of dragoness. There is no other kind of female human.
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>>81286295
poggers dragon
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>>81288012
Poggers indeed
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>>81286880
What?
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>>81282586
Dragons are lifted by magic, not hollow bones
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>>81290781
>>81286295 said >>81286227 was gay,
>>81286334 said they were gynoid (aka having a vagina/uterus). >>81286383 said the redundant phrase "gynoid dragoness"
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>>81301169
>gynoid (aka having a vagina/uterus)
That's new incel speak to me
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>>81302409
I think that the person who referred to themself as gynoid was saying they were ftm
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gynoid is a female android
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>>81302507
I suppose 'femoid' wasn't bioessentialist enough for them
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>>81274310
Ngl, I want some Brass dragon to lock me up in a bird cage and hang me around his neck so he can talk to me all day long, every day, about any topic that pleases him, until eventually I'm forced to talk back and have a conversation just to alleviate my own boredom since there's nothing else to do.

I would also accept being "accidentally" sat on by a Copper dragon who doesn't notice me for several hours.
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>>81304457
Same here, but with a dragoness
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>>81304727
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>>81274310
>Small, soft, fleshy creatures that are almost entirely harmless when their weapons are taken away, yet posses an endearing sense creativity and curiosity.
When you think about it, wouldn't dragons think that humans make great pets?
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>>81304833
if you squint, they also look a tiny bit like sentient penises
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please stop injecting yourself with dragon body fluids, i already see more of these fluffy abominations than real dragons
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>>81304954
What makes you think a fluffy abomination would be half-human? Humans don't have fur.
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>>81304970
anti-mammal prejudice
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>>81304833
>not as haughty as elves
>harder to lose track of than dwarves
definitely. I wouldn't mind this ins the slightest
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>>81305055
The problem with dwarves and elves is that they're too stubborn and prideful to really accept that they're the pet in this relationship. Humans meanwhile will pretty much put on a dog-collar for you if you treat them well enough.
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>>81305084
being a pet would be nice. It's pretty much the same thing as being taken care of by your man. I would love to take care of a dragon in return, though.
>every day he flies home to the lair with new things to entertain you
>when raiding/politicking he picks out nice clothes for you and gives you so much jewelry you could never wear the same thing twice
>you cook huge meals for him, using some of the magic he taught you to make things he's never had before
>he thinks you're special
>he would never let anyone hurt his property, and would never abandon you
why even live
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>>81305122
having them be unafraid to show their soft side around you would be cute, too
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>>81304970
humans just shave their fur off every day
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>find a beautiful dragon GF
>she's not into vore
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>81305122
>tfw the enormous fire-breathing dragon that can burn down entire cities without taking a scratch is gently caressing you on their chest like you're the most treasured gem they've ever acquired
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y'all faggots should read Temeraire
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>>81305221
Nothing a few spells of acid immunity can't fix
I'm sure it'll be fun
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>>81305243
Ironically I didn't really like the books set in the areas where they worship dragons. The chinese parts were okay but the series would probably be better if you just cut all the america stuff outright.
The first few books were really enjoyable though.
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So here's the thing, if we assume that humans as they are in the modern era were dropped into a world with dragons, then sure, there'd be some resistance to being ruled over by dragons and you'd see some humans trying to slay those dragons.

But, if we assume that humans evolved into a world with dragons already existing, then it's almost certain that those dragons would be worshipped and revered as gods and masters. And, if the dragons took any interest in humans, it's almost certain that we'd be "domesticated" by the time we left the caveman era and started to properly civilize ourselves. Humans are very prone to worshipping big scary things that they can't quite understand, and dragons certainly fall under that definition.
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>>81305351
humans worshipped big scary things we couldn't even see, if there were dragons that had magic or could breathe fire, we would absolutely worship them as gods.
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>>81305369
either that, or humans would've stayed nomads, always leaving for the next place the moment a dragon shows up
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>>81305369
>"Oh shit, a flash of lightning made a thundering sound, quick, let's worship it!"
>"Holy fuck, there's this giant ball of bright yellow stuff in the sky giving us light and warmth during the daytime, let's worship it!"
>"Holy fuck, our emperor has a ton of wealth and is dressed super fancy, let's worship him!"
If humans are willing to worship something as feeble as ourselves, then there's no way on God's green Earth that we wouldn't worship a dragon. The only question is whether the dragons would be interested enough in us to allow us the honor of serving them.
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>>81305397
>noooooo i dont wanna go back into the cloaca
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>>81305397
I would like to think they would, because even if they're just blatantly using us for their goals, it would be considered a greater purpose than anything a human could hope to achieve in our pathetically short little worm-lives
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>hey guys! did you know that in terms of interspecies breeding, humans are the most compatible species? not only do they have decently sized genitals for their body size, they also have dexterous fingers without claws and large, hairless arms. Now this means, they are able to pleasure partners above and below their sizeclass, and with their impressive stamina in warm climates as well as their access to high-grade bodyarmor, you can be rough with one.
>Due to their all-year mating season, there is no doubt in my mind that an aroused human would be incredibly horny, so horny that you could have sex with one for hours without having him/her try to escape.
>They can also also learn the reproductive rituals of other species and give the best pettings in the world, along with having no fur to hide their strong muscles, so it would be incredibly easy for one to get you in the mood.
>With their abilities to release a surge of adrenaline and human-made stamina potions, they can easily recover from fatigue in a single turn. No other creature comes close to this level of compatability.
>Also fun fact, if they dont pull out, you will be blessed with mighty sorceror or druid children.

>humans are clearly build for monster pussy. Natural endurance + ingenuity + advanced alchemy + xenophilic tendencies means they can give dick to creatures of all shapes, all sizes, all day
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>>81274310
For anyone still on the fence, consider for a moment, dragons would hate communism more than any other species.
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>>81306421
They would also consider earth their realm and use their tremendous intellect towards defending it from outsiders, pushing science far forward. Imagine if Einstein or Von Braun lived for thousands of years and had the personal wealth of John d rockafeller. That's the level of development we're talking, here.
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>>81306421
idk, human beings already hate it a lot already. Only sub-humans don't.
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>>81306421
why would dragons hate authoritarian government types?
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>>81307542
that's not what they would hate. They would hate having an internally controlled economy that would limit the generation of wealth, and put the "needs of the many" before the gain of the few. If it was fascism with a communist coating, sure, they might enforce it on their subjects, but at that point it's just monarchy with extra steps.
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>>81282716
yes, Yes, YES.
The neck needs to be long and thick, the creature should be capable of standing on hind legs for intimidation, and the bastard should have no sense of personal space.
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>>81286057
>lizard-woman
get that gay shit outta here
>male dragon
kino
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>my ears hurt
>these dragons are stupid
>i wish i was at home doing shady shit
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eastern dragons are built for snuggles
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>>81307667
this. dragons are at their best when they're built, like (picrel) and:
>>81274310
>>81274320
>>81274334
>>81274368
>>81274376
>>81286334
>>81305139
If they don't look like they could utterly crush something even their own size, what's the point?
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>>81307798
>If they don't look like they could eat something even their own size, what's the point?

Fixed that for you.
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>>81307783
and western dragons are built for domination
>>81308224
i don't get the whole 'vore' angle. for me it's purely that the represent power and masculinity, confidence, devotion, and frankly, not-give-a-fuck-ness. The fact that they'd be willing to destroy whole civilizations to get what they want is sexy.
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why are IRL dragons so cute
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Question for you all: Should dragon claws be capable of fine manipulation (eg, able to forge humanoid-sized equipment) or should they have to change shape to do this? I'm personally a fan of the former, it gives dragons an interesting ability beyond the usual charisma, fire breath, etc. And while I appreciate the concept of dragons hoarding because they cannot create, it also adds an interesting history to say "this armlet was forged by something bigger than your lord's castle on an anvil taken from some farmer's outbuilding" (and maybe creates a quest to get that anvil back, too).
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>>81308381
dragon bodies should be walking weapons. I believe it is more interesting to make dragons dependent on creatures with fine motor control to accomplish more delicate tasks.

it's always important to avoid fantasy creatures being *too* perfect, or you end up cutting down on possible problem solving opportunities
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>>81308377
They're also intelligent, though not in a way a mammal is. Their entire consciousness (whatever you want to call it) is probably different from rabbits and dogs and stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWTITUgDcmU
Would be cool to have dragons work a completely different way in terms of thought processes, likes/dislikes, etc.
>>81308381
I would say that they could use their magic to expand the item they want to work on, work it, then shrink it. Could work the other way around, too, where they polymorph themselves into humans or use a shrinking spell to change their size class. Also, this begs the question whether or not they would even consider making something for a smaller creature. Why would they make something for their lessers?
>>81308443
All of this can be solved with magic. But in my setting, I built a script and a language for dragons based around the idea that they carve things into stone with their claws, mostly, rather than bothering with giant sheets of parchment/paper, which are too flammable and impermanent for them to bother with. Pic related.
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>>81308728
Further related. I doubt anyone's interested in the language, but the script is meant to be written with one hand, 3 claws at the most but usually two per stroke.
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>>81307667

True. Pic related is pretty much ideal dragon(ess). Though the wings could maybe be larger.
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>>81310336
>squishy belly full of vulnerable guttywuts
>thick thighs slowing them down
I mean if you want something so slow and lazy you might as well just date a human
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>>81310390
It does have scutes covering the belly, which should provide some protection.
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>>81310425
still. Fat dragons can be cute but I don't for the life of me understand how they could be sexy. I suppose you must be a vorefag.
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>>81307542
They wouldn't hate all authoritarian government types. If anything they would favor absolutist monarchy where the entire kingdom and all subjects within are pretty much considered to be their personal property. However, dragons being both prideful, vain, and greedy, would absolutely loathe communism, because they'd see no reason for a mighty creature such as themselves to even pretend to believe in equality and communal property, and furthermore communist states are just really bad at generating wealth that dragons wish to hoard.

However, despite what I just said, you could see dragons taking on a surprisingly modern China-esque form of economy, where peoplel and private corporations are allowed to accrue wealth and make a profit, but there's a sort of implicit understanding that the dragon is in charge of things and can and will seize their assets if he feels that they're not acting in his interest.
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It makes some sense for the old primitive faiths to be dragon based because the dragons were there and people feared them. But as people get more civilized and learn more about the world, they start wanting to worship other stronger entities that actually have their best interests and wellbeing in mind.
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>>81312096
>dragon taking a humorous selfie of getting faux-punched by a statue
Why do you assume there couldn't be good ones who treat years of peace and the prosperity of their subjects as part of their hoard? Surely some would notice that letting the smallfolk do their own thing generates more wealth in the form of taxation than actively demanding worship and surrender of all possessions/wealth.
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>>81312096
Depends on the nature of the gods and the religions of the setting. While our monotheistic world is dominated by an understanding of God being a benevolent figure without our best interest in mind, most mythological pantheons in the past were not so altruistic. You didn't worship Zeuss or Oden because they had your best interest in mind, you worshipped them because it was sort of a contract between mortal and god, you provide sacrifice and worship, and they provide fertile fields and rains for the crops (or whatever else they were in charge of). And sometimes the gods wouldn't even hold up on their ends of the bargain, or would just go around doing petty shit like raping people or turning them into flowers.

Basically, as far as gods god, dragons may not be omnibenevolent, but they're at least on par with most gods.
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>>81312201
>as far as gods god
as far as gods go
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>>81305221
>>81305282
>>find a beautiful dragon GF
>>she's not into vore
>"No"
"What do you mean 'No'? I'm just asking for a bit of mouthplay"
>"And the spells?"
"In case I get a bit too into it, honest"
>"Uh-huh, still no though"
"Why? We do your weird kinks all the time, you owe me"
>"My weird kinks don't involve risk of life and limb"
"....I'm a dragon, you're a human, EVERYTHING we do involves risk of life and limb to you"

>>81308381
Well, going by D&D, most have at least human level dexterity, so I'd assume the former, though the idea of them having super dexterous tongues has potential....

>>81310336
I'd make the tum slightly smaller, wings bigger, and neck/head a tad bit bigger, but yeah, very good dragoness
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>>81312771
Alright you degens, have the sequel
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SCRUBBA
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>>81312152
Unironically if humanity needs a non human "god" to take control of their destiny away from them in order to survive, they don't deserve to exist in the first place.
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>>81314298
>needs
We wouldn't /need/. Just would want. We've could do better than the state of things now. You're telling me if aliens showed up tomorrow and offered everyone full-sensory VR, various methods of immortality, ftl, and an end to poverty/resource scarcity/avoidable suffering, people wouldn't basically be worshipful of them? Not as divine, but as saviors. Smarter than us, that care for us and we're kind enough to grace us with their favor; why would a dragon be any different? Having a being of such power and such fanatic devotion to protecting what's his (in this case, his people, land, etc) that he would fight to the death to defend you would be deserving of worship. Especially because in this instance, dragons are smarter than humans in every way. Sure, they might be greed elementals, mostly, but that greed can take many forms. Just like klingons are all fanatics about being warriors, that doesn't mean that they all fight and stab people. Some of them view the courtroom as a battlefield, or doctors waging a battle against death itself. Some dragons would see people this way, and those would be the ones who end up the wealthiest, most comfortable, and most satisfied, to the point where eventually that would become the natural order of things.
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>>81314298
It's amusing that you arbitrarily decided to only include non-human gods yet you still managed to come across as a fedora-wearing retard.
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>>81314298
Technically speaking, I wouldn't consider most, if any gods, human
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>>81305578
>hey guys! did you know that AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>81314298
>to take control of their destiny away
So all humans everywhere then. Cause what you're describing is pretty much any government and most religions.
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>>81314242
I've already seen the whole comic, I was just commenting on her figure
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>>81316280
>I was just commenting on her figure
Given dragons get more powerful with age, would a dragoness take saying she looks older than she is a complement?
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>>81316694
That's just playing with fire right there anon
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>>81314264
the scrubba is cute I'll admit
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>>81319164
*hot
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Show me your dragons
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Bookwyrm
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Show me your hoard face!
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Why do the ones who look more evil end up being more attractive? Like, in D&D terms, black dragons are probably the most like this.
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>>81320246
I think reds are better personally
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>>81320246
Good dragons tend to be bound by "good character" traits, which means they have to look less threatening and dangerous.
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speaking of, anyone got this in higher res?
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>>81274310
What would be a dragon's favorite game to play with his pet humans?
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>>81321684
cat and mouse probably
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>>81321715
>tfw at least once a day you get drenched in dragon saliva because he insists on playing the "cat and mouse" game to its very end
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> You can eat humans, perfect sized meals
> Some even like it
Better servants than kobolds
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>>81274310
Would dragons think that humans are "cute", and if so, why?
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>>81321903
does it have to be dragon saliva?
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>>81322954
What the fuck else would it-

Oh.
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>>81321969
Is that the name of the artist or the dragon? Because it'd be absolutely hilarious that there is a dragon just named "Greg"
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>>81324227
It's the name of the dragon.
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So, anyone know of any gay dragons in fiction? I'm assuming there are plenty male ones around that are written by women to appeal to their daddy issues, and female ones written by men to indulge their giantess shit, but does anyone know of any dragons gay with each other or a human? Seems like a hole in the market. T. Dragonfujo
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>>81324227
he's the antagonist of a game and steals your heart iirc
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>>81321903
>>81322954
>>81322965
Sounds fun
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>>81324286
Probably, but gay dragon relationships are difficult and secretive. A dragon's pride dictates it must always top. ALWAYS.
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Making dragons anything other than an enemy is pants-on-head retarded. Then you're telling a story about how humans are weak and need protection. And apparently they need it from a symbol of monsters rather than symbols of humanity. It's a totally different story, and a pretty fucked-up one. That's the story of a degenerate lovecraftian cult.
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>>81329314
>Then you're telling a story about how humans are weak and need protection.
As someone who grew up in the Christian faith and worldview, "humans are weak and need protection" is just scratching the surface of how pathetic and loathsome humans are. Dragons give humans a purpose in life that they could never have on their own.
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>>81330407
>You're just going to eat your rice ball, right honey?
>.....Right?
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>>81329314
Dragons are immortal, hyper-intelligent, nigh-unkillable, rich beyond most imagining, and tremendously powerful sorcerers who are only loosely bound to alignment. They view humans as basically somewhat-intelligent cattle, and have every ability to back that belief up.

Why would they be unworthy of worship, should this be the case? Either to beg them not to utterly destroy as they see fit, or to thank them for their protection/benevolence like >>81314467, they still are beings that require whole societies to please them or throw them off.
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>>81332357
If you go by 3E (Yeah, not 3.5, this is 3E stuff), there's a dragon only PrC that allows them to transform into a divine rank 0 being, it's the ONLY outright stated mechanic for a being to become a god by RAW, so more than any other monster I'd gamble there's a chance your dragon god is an actual god
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>>81332664
That's the thing, even in D&D, they're about as close as most parties will ever see to living gods. See counter monkey 'circle strafe' and burgerkrieg's video on the shadowrun dragons.
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>>81332714
lmao dragons aren't even that powerful. After like a month of going on adventures some random humans will be powerful enough to fuck one sideways
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>ywn serve a monarch who actually has a divine right to rule
>ywn be in his cabinet of executors of His will
>ywn see the gleam in his eyes as you tell him how much your work has added to his hoard
>ywn grow to be a trusted advisor of a near-god
>ywn be rewarded by being alone with him, His time being all you asked for
>ywn become his favorite mortal
>ywn choke on his cock to show your true devotion
>ywn become the crown jewel of his hoard
Existence is suffering. ;~;
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You lot of claw-kissers itt! Fookin dragons can sit on my dick or my spear
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>>81332869
>ywn be a dragons royal throne cushion as he takes you up on that offer to sit on you
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>>81332885
Dragoness's are better, but a cute dragon is second best I'll admit
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>>81321903
Explain
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>>81333433
It's like a game of hide and seek combined with a bit of fun roleplaying. You pretend to be an intruder who snuck inside the dragon's lair, and you hide inside the lair, while the dragon sniffs you out and tries to find you. When he finally does catch you, he tosses you inside his mouth pretending to "eat the intruder", and after getting a good taste of you he spits you out and you share a laugh afterwards over your fun little game.
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>>81333501
Sounds fun
What if you steal a ring of acid immunity from her hoard though?
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>>81333520
Then she'll be able to take the game a bit farther than usual. Best done when her stomach is empty, lest you'd rather come out the other end.
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>>81333565
>the other end
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>>81332931
My question is this: why would a dragobess bother with you? If she is attracted to you enough to sex/Dom you, she's not into masculinity, otherwise she would just fuck a male dragon. She's actively sacrificing to Dom you, whereas with male dragons, they lose nothing and dominating women/lesser males is their nature.
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I've been working on a revised bestiary for my games where you need certain equipment to deal with certain monsters.

E.g. You need earmuffs to prevent the deadly scream of a banshee killing you.

What McGuffin do you need to kill a dragon? Going off of legends, either a spear (St. George), an ordinary knife (Beowulf), or just an axe. But those items don't necessarily seem like special items that adventurers would desperately need to kill a dragon.

Anyway to spice it up? (Enchanted spear, dipped in blood, etc.)
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>>81333565
I have my doubts a dragon would vomit you up, you DID go in there playing the part of the 'mouse' after all, and that is what happens when they lose to cats
I'd imagine she'd tease you about forgetting a scroll of teleport or something the first time though

>>81333696
Depends on the lore, but at least going by 3E's Draconomicon (which I'll admit is what I still base my dragon lore on), dragons aren't actually terribly picky about their mates (sapiency isn't even a requirement, one of the sample dragons in the book is noted for turning near EVERYTHING in the local ecosystem, plants included into half dragons via mating with damn near everything, another is noted for just... liking humanoids), in many ways they prefer nondragonic mates cause most will start getting paranoid about other dragonic mates unless they're VERY close. Going off the examples provided, their reasons for picking a humanoid mate can range from things like just having a human kink, enjoying the conversation/finding their mate funny, pride in having a famous adventurer for a mate, or meeting them after taking humanoid form and figuring "why not? What's a few decades playing house?"
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>>81333696
Let me put it this way, there are bits of D&D lore scattered about that imply dragons demand young women/men for reasons other than wanting to eat them and there's a reason sorcerers/half dragons aren't that uncommon

>>81333741
If I was going to do something like that I'd put dragons as something you don't need any special equipment to handle, something like holy protection, virtue, nobility, purity, etc though, that's what you need to handle them
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>>81333835
That feels a bit strange to me.

I'm in the mindset of Monster Hunter, or the Witcher series, where monsters are dangerous but have exploitable weaknesses.

But that's the thing, the Dragon is the Apex predator we made up for ourselves. Is it just better to say that they have no weaknesses?
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How would the different Chromatics treat their pet humans?
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>>81333978
>But that's the thing, the Dragon is the Apex predator we made up for ourselves. Is it just better to say that they have no weaknesses?
That's part of the reason I feel it's fitting for them, they're the greatest beasts, of course they'd have no weakness, nothing material at least
The other half, is to be honest, getting back to the roots of the knight vs dragon dynamic, defeating a dragon isn't a sign of one's martial might, but of one's spiritual might, they're not something a man can defeat, a hero though, that can kill a dragon

>>81333980
Varies by dragon and color, but off the top of my head, blacks and greens are noted as being very sadistic, so probably not well. Reds are a bit of a crapshoot there, they can be very cruel, or they may prize you highly if they consider you valuable, or they may turn you into a gold statue. Whites are more likely to just eat you than anything else. Blues are probably the 'nicest', as long as you fit in their collection and treat them with respect
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>>81333980
What >>81334070 said about the chromatics is pretty accurate, which is why imo Copper dragons make for the best dragon owners. Playful, mischievous, yet still fundamentally good.
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>>81334272
So Black and White will mess you up, but is there any way to stay safe with a Green? Wouldn't they mostly psychologically torment you with fake-outs, instead of the more physical punishments?
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>>81334272
I mean, a blue could be pretty nice as long as you play into their autism, but yeah, metallic are probably your best bet

>>81334334
Just double checked, while greens are noted to be the most likely to lie and betray, they're also noted as REALLY enjoying the taste of humanoids, particularly elves, so if you become the 'pet' of a Green make sure to grab a ring of acid immunity cause you'll probably spend most of your time in her mouth or belly
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>>81334469
Huh. So she'd probably mess with your head a bunch, or trick you into situations where you might get eaten like some kind of messed up Sphinx wannabe.
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>>81334679
I think games are more a Blue thing, but I could easily see one who'd play rigged games with you where she wins, she eats you, you somehow win, you're free to go (to her belly)
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>>81333835
Imagine being a woman who got given up to a dragon, only to find that your friends and neighbors had been eaten because the dragon wasn't getting what he wanted. He fucks you (maybe shrinks himself down a little, but still definitely has a cock the size of a horse or bigger) and after a few times you get morning sickness. The dragon stops demanding women, because he finally has a woman to lay his eggs. Imagine the glint in his eye as he realizes that your are now his broodmother, and he starts to respect you, though still uses you while his watermelon-sized egg is growing in you. You go into labor, but the human body is not designed for this, so the dragon snaps his fingers and your pain becomes pleasure. After a day of mind-melting ecstasy, he grabs you by the throat, pushes your against the ground again, and fucks you until you're pregnant again. Rinse and repeat until he gets bored, which could be a few thousand years.
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>>81336435
>Anthro dragon
>Male
Get better tastes
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There's a 3pp Pathfinder 2e kickstarter up right now that has a book that's making... 40 different kinds of dragon playable, I think?
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>>81336446
>implying he can't take any form he wants for fuck
>implying he would want to rip you in half with a cock twice the size of your body if his goal is reproduction
>implying he would abandon the aesthetic elements of his true from just to fuck you
>implying he would shrink down to the size of a horse to fuck you
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>>81336463
As much as I like dragons, I have my doubts dragon PCs would really work
On that note though, are we talking true dragons (ie age categories) or 'dragons'?
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>>81336500

True dragons. They trade class feats for dragon powers. I think you have an option to be supercharged for your age category via a ritual.
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>>81304954
fluffy abominations are the most huggable and the most fuckable though. from a purely scientific point of view
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>>81336937
Dragons can have manes, but I'd prefer if they were mostly scaled
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>>81333696
There are no dragonic gods of beauty as far as I'm aware, but their are humanoid ones, so the objective standard of beauty is set to humanoid
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>>81340423
boring
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>>81274310
So I can see that everyone here is a faggot, but what kind of spells do you think that clerics and paladins (or something analogous) of dragon-worshipping religions should use? My ideas are that they should be autistically fire-based and focus primarily on destruction or strengthening oneself and your allies, so a spell which sets your sword on fire and makes it do increased damage, creating a wall of fire around yourself to hurt anything which gets close to you or unleashing the inner scalie in you and temporarily gaining magical wings, armoured scales, claws and maybe a breath attack. Of course, these are all very boring.
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I want to info dump on my dragon-centric setting but idk if that's egotistical or not
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>>81343433
Do it.
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>>81343456
The short version: magic in the plane has a limited supply, and the gods were pissed that all the humans were fighting with world-ending amounts of power, and in fact made half the planet an unlivable wasteland by converting the moon that was tidally locked to that side of the world into metal, basically, reflecting light on that side 75% of the time. The gods decided that there was too much magic to go around, in such short lifetimes that they would return their power to the mana pool upon death, essentially letting everyone become a highly-skilled mage through raw power alone. To counter this, the Gods made elves, who live around a thousand years or so, so as to sequester more magic in individuals who would live long enough to learn responsibility. Well, the elves did the same thing humans did, and used the huge supply of magic sequestered per person (as one draws from the total pool the more powerful they get, so older mages make it slightly harder for younger mages to become powerful, but this effect only takes place over huge populations and long periods of time), so humans mostly lost their ability to become sorcerers. The elves fought wars, enslaved the humans, and the gods then tried to counterbalance the elves by making gnomes, dwarves, halflings, etc. Eventually the gods realize that this was never going to end unless they turned their elf idea up to 11, collecting huge amounts of magic in a small number of beings. So, finally, they created their magnum opus: dragons.

Immortal, scary smart, and so innately magical that all but maybe one humanoid per village were born without magic, the dragons quickly rose to openly rule the world. The gods had built them with an innate desire to hoard, so as to keep magic artifacts out of the hands of the mortals, and they gave them power lust, so as to give them an incentive to compete and sequester more magic into 'escrow' the older they got. 1/?
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The dragons waged massively destructive wars, killing so many enslaved that the gods had to literally create a paradise moon (lush jungles, crystaline seas, cloud-kissed mountains) to ensure that all life wasn't wiped out. This all came to a head when the dragons had a massive war called The Culling, and all but some 200 died. These 200 came to an agreement, that unless they wanted the gods to make something more powerful than /them/, it was in their best interest to keep their numbers low and serve the function they were intended to: defending against the chaos of such wars. They decided to limit their numbers, and limit themselves to the archipelago they sprang up from. This was the treaty of Raia, the first Wyrmsmoot. Our story picks up some twenty millennia after the Treaty of Raia. The main sovereigns are:
>Falandax, ruled 12,000 years, LG, basically a benevolent god-queen, let's her subjects do their thing and she just skims tax rev
>Anum'ash, ruled 12,000 years, LE, mastermind and big bad, does the same thing as Falandax, but doesn't really care about his subjects individually like she does, only let's Dora and nunki rule as puppets
>Lunathyr, ruled 1700 years, LE, dethroned King Jekarnes of Jek'ath to rise to power, keeps her island sparse and low-tech, like Conan
>Dorathyr, ruled 500 years, NE, more or less a viceroy and buffer state to mess with her sister lunathyr, makes her subjects worship her
>Sandobal, ruled 10,000 years, LN, is a techie nerd who loves gnomes and warforged
>Kyfwyr, ruled 22,000 years, is the one who discovered the gods' plan for dragons, NG
>Laddathyr, ruled 700 years, LN, fought Kyfwyr but now kyfs is his dad kinda
>Nunki, LE, ruled 200 years, absurdly strong for his age, considered anu's attack beast
>Thunsek, NE, ruled 2000 years, likes sacrifice and bloodsport, seeks to become a dracolich
>Kuuda, CE, ruled 500 years, tortures and eats her subjects, all of whom are slaves
2/?
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>count Narses, alignment unknown, consummate polymorph whose true form has never been seen
The campaign is set to begin when Lady Falandax's Court physicist (Planar magic specialist) Thranadyr yoinks some extraplanars (players) into Noth so they can have some dudes with magic not limited by the truly insane amounts of power the older dragons have, regardless if the magic is innate strength magic (physical classes) or arcane. The reason Falandax needs adventurers is because she is sick, something that has never happened before to any dragon, lord or not, and they need some people whose magic can't be tracked by the absurd levels of power Anum'ash can wield, because he might be behind it. Pic related, it's Falandax. All dragons have a human form (really just for convenience's sake, and so they can be characterized with clothes and looks when they interact with subjects inside buildings not built for their massive bodies), but very few spend any time in it. The plot is this:
>Big bad Anum'ash the Black Lord's main motivation is really just to resurrect his dead elf wife, Ishar, who died millennia ago
>Res is not a thing in this universe, or is so hard it's nigh impossible
>As such, he need power. Sooo much power. Sacrifices and whatnot.
>This is why he helped Thunsek take the Gabalrog Mountains, so that the dark mage could find a way to resurrect her
>Thunsek has been draining Falandax with wicked crazy magic
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>>81344105
>Narses is aware of this, and is planning to use an army from the Womb of the World to breach the surface on Khoren'ath to take it over once she's weak enough
>Thunsek is siphoning a lot of the energy for himself, for the purpose of becoming a dracolich
>Sandobal is unaware of any of this, more concerned in the power of warp magic and Constructs to defeat anything that comes her way.
>Kuuda is Anum'ash's daughter, meant to keep an eye on Kyfwyr, Falandax, and Laddathyr, but is actually just a failure in his eyes, being the essence of cruelty and chaotic evil.
>Nunki is there as a counterbalance to Thunsek, and Anum'ash will sic him on Thunsek if he detects overt betrayal
>He knows some of the power and sacrifices are being siphoned by Thunsek and he doesnt care. He's more concerned with Thunsek figuring out a way to fully revive Ishar.
>Dorathyr is actually being cultivated as a Snackrifice for the dark god Zagriz. Harrying Lunathyr and her interests is just a believable cover story
>Nunki has plans of his own, and is secretly raising islands in the seas north of Lork'ath, for the purposes of growing a huge population and crushing everyone else. Not even Anum'ash is aware, because such geomancy is not usually possible, because nunki is actually a dragon from another plane, pulled right out by Anum'ash to serve as his battle beast.
>Lunathyr doesn't really have plans, she's just chilling in the barbarian wastes, having a grand old time. Mostly she's concerned with folk art and stuff.
>Dorathyr knows she's being used, and is actually quite keen on figuring out why. The reason she insists on being worshipped as a goddess is because she has some reason to believe that apotheosis is achieved through mass belief.
>Falandax knows all about what's going on with Anum'ash, because he actually asked her for help once, but she couldn't. >She also knows about Thunsek and Kuuda being the Black Lord's agents, and that Kuuda is his daughter.
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>>81344113
>Falandax has a plan involving Kyfwyr and Laddathyr
>Kyfwyr has been training Laddathyr in all sorts of mysticism and magic, and Laddathyr has become able to see into the future using rituals
>He's honed this ability, as well as his own physical and magical skills, pursuant to a plan to take down Thunsek in order to ruin Big A's plans.
>Also Laddathyr and Kyfwyr both plan on taking down Kuuda after that.
>The reason Anum'ash is as powerful as he is is actually that he is as much of a teleportation enthusiast as Thranadyr is, but rather than focusing on planes, the focused on Tivash Raia, the paradise moon. Yes. He literally rules the moon, and all its strange animal/furry races. He built a permanent runic portal in a remote cave and has been getting all kinds of stuff from them.

This is all just a super brief overview, but I have a gazillion plans for the setting. Tons of locations planned out, Npcs and linked plots in every town and city, and plenty of freedom. My players are going to spend probably levels 1-7 running around Khoren'ath, the seat of Falandax's power, and honestly if they wanted to stay there, the plot would still happen, they would still have an effect on the world but not as much direct involvement in dracopolitics.

Rather than continue to go into autistic levels of detail, here's the setting/base lore folder, including the conlang mentioned in
>>81309499
>>81308728
Which I'm still fleshing out. I'm also working on an ideograms system designed to be mutually communicable regardless of what language is spoken, as the d-lords are big into administration generally, and their subjects speak different languages.
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>>81344190
Oh, right, I should probably link it. Also, have a sketch of science-nerd thranadyr
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>>81344208
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1ncwRxGNMh8OyHAZ85DLiERnBOE-BbXqi
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>>81344208
What ruleset are you playing under? Be careful not to too carefully plan things. Players have their own way of morphing the setting around what they want to do and play with. I know the pain of complex worldbuilding and then having most of your stuff not explored or interacted with, can make all your worldbuilding leave a sour taste in your mouth. Maybe even sour you on the lore you've made.

But the nice thing about worldbuilding is that you can use it multiple times under different contexts. Games, writing, just exploring the place in your imagination.
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>system
Pf 1e, but as the players won't be fighting any dragons until the high teens, I can just make up stats and mechanics for the d-lords. Most of the encounters they'll be meeting at first will have nothing to do with the main plot, mostly just running around leveling up (literally Thranadyr's plan to get them powerful enough that he's comfortable sending them out on the main quest), fighting cave spiders for the Dwarven mining company two twons over, random tales of beasts, Kuo-toa pirates, etc. When I say the plot will still happen, I mean the d-lords are /so/ fucking far above mortal concerns usually that there's no stopping the general course of their plans, save by another dragon. One of the more pervasive plotlines will be how they handle Irectheos, who basically controls a solid chunk of the novexian economy. He hoards real estate, stocks, Constructs, etc, and pretty much everywhere they go, the pc's will be interacting with some corporate property of his, to the point where they actually gain his notice. I'm sure you can tell why it's part of the greater plan they're being used in involves them actually speaking to the only dragon with a birth defect.
>world building is versatile
Precisely. I find myself daydreaming about Novexia and the minutiae of life under each of the lords. The problem is I keep coming up with ideas for cool dragons, to the point where I feel like I'm neglecting humanoids. Still, I'm a couple chapters into... Something (novel? Novella?) detailing some of life on Khoren'ath. Mostly an excuse to have Thrandy and Phyralaxes (Falandax's son, pictured) be cute dorks at each other because crushes and courtship between dragons take place over decades. Juxtaposes them to the older drakes, who view their kind of foolishness as degrading to dragonkind, and their overt concern for individual humanoids is considered childish. Most start out caring, but after seeing entire generations live and die, they stop meaning so much.
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>>81343433
Neat stuff anon



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