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Is there any hope that Warcraft or Starcraft might live on as tabletop games? The first Starcraft and Warcraft 2-3 were a huge part of my childhood and the reason I ever got into tabletop games, but now Blizzard is finally dead due to the lawsuit and I want the settings to live on somehow.
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>>80444575
Accept that it's dead. There's nothing about the settings post SC:BW/WC3:TFT that are worth saving.
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>>80444575
If blizz really goes bankrupt, that means IP will just change hands. Unless you have few milions on your hands it will just go to epic for example.
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>>80444575
>Starcraft might live on as tabletop games?
These two things don't make nearly as much money as a 6 month store mount.
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>>80444598
"Blizzard" is just part of Activision, the only thing that can happen is that Activision shut them down as a separate entity and put the brands directly under the Activision banner.
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>>80444575
>>80444596
this. I had my nostalgia with classic and BC. Not worth saving j2
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>>80444604
>These two things don't make nearly as much money as a 6 month store mount.

The game is literally dead now tho. Everyone who hadn't migrated to FFXIV already is going now after this thing went public.
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>Making a tabletop game for a dead product
Genius business strategy then.
>after this thing went public.
The lawsuit I imagine. I don't know man, some of the shit in there sounded comically sleazy and sexist.
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Man it sucks that Warcraft has the best elves ever. Stuck in such a shitty game.
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>>80444575
>>80444680
Redpill me on this lawsuit?
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>>80444628
ActivisionBlizzard was sued by california, not just blizzard if they go down it will be at the same time
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>>80444575
>blizzard lawsuit
haha.
thats what they get for being in california.
faggots.
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apparently california filed a sexual harssment suit against blizzard like 2 hours ago. theres like 5 threads on /v/.
i will fucking laugh my ass off if they get fucked by feminism after trying so hard to push feminist dogshit.
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You want a wargame or rpg? Could be possible a homebrew gets popular. But if you want that your going to have to work on it.
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>>80444748
SylvanASS Windrunner, my man. Always has been, always will be!
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>>80445139
SylvHIPSANDASS Windrunner what did they mean by this name
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>>80444575
Find pdfs of the warcraft tabletop game, got some old school warcraft soul to it.
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>>80444741
They probably started pushing feminism because they were being investigated for being sex pests.
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>>80444741
I don't know what's the most hilarious of it all: the suit itself or Blizzard dindu nuffin' answer.
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>>80445680

I always liked the dark ranger in multiplayer and one of the generic names they'll get is "Anya". The last name is never lewd but it still cracks me up. It's like, god damn, talk about accursed.
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>>80444575
There was already a warcraft tabletop that went out of production like a decade+ ago, unlikely to ever get another.
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>tfw no game to play as savage abo elves
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>>80445814
Anal?
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>>80444741
It's frustrating how reliable progressive branding is as smoke signalling fire.
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>>80445953
Those with nothing to hide have no reason to project an image of goodness.
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>>80445923

No man, Anya, as in "HEY ANYA, I LOVE MY FOOTLONG ANYA, CAN I GET A LITTLE EXTRA SAUCE ANYA, MAN WE SHOULD HANG OUT ANYA I CAN'T WAIT TO SPEND SOME TIME ANYA". It's the most accursed first-name in the English language.

Like, I remember hearing about a woman named "Anya Cock", but I just tried searching it and got nothing but porn. Fucking accursed.
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>>80446006
what the fuck man, take your meds
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>>80444693
they should just be ripped wholesale and developed further in a better setting. All the flavors of elf can come, even void elves
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>>80446110
As long as you get rid of feline mounts, sure.
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>>80444575
>Blizzard is finally dead
Depends how the lawsuit pans out.
To me it seems fishy honestly. Blizzard is one of those companies filled to the brim with SJWs, so it wouldn't surprise me if they conspired to make shit up to destroy the company for a fat stack of cash.
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QRD on the lawsuit?
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>>80444680
>some of the shit in there sounded comically sleazy and sexist
This. It sounds made up for the most shock value.
Leftists love to make shit up and blow it out of proportions.
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>>80446110
left knight is a red dragon, not an elf
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>>80446140
Activision-Blizzard is staffed by mysoginists and abusers, women don't get equal chances in the society.
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>>80446124
not gonna happen.
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>>80446006
What? Is this some kind of boomer meme?
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It's not just Blizzard that's being sued, it's ALL of Activision. This won't just hit the Blizzard side it'll hit the whole company if the court rules against them.
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>>80445713
>I don't know what's the most hilarious of it all: the suit itself or Blizzard dindu nuffin' answer.
no, you dont get it. the funny part is that left wingers always think they can satiate the feminist monster by making sufficient sacrifices to it or allying with it, like the dark eldar trying to distract slanesh. they never realize that feminism is a rabid pitbull, it cannot be sated ever, because hatred and rage is a fundamental part of its nature. laying down with a rapid dog will always result in you being mauled. the truth of the allegations is irrelevant. what is hilarious is watching left wingers get devoured one after another for years on end and they seemingly never learn.

>>80444693
not anymore, reforged neutered their entire aesthetic.
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>>80446221
>not anymore, reforged neutered their entire aesthetic.

Nobody gave a shit about that shitty mobile port other than mock it. I mean it wasn't even developed by Blizzard so it's definitely not canon.
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>>80446188
>>80446040

"Anya" sounds like "On ya". It's a popular stage name in porn and is a bad name to give to your daughter, hence "accursed", hence it's funny when they put that name on a dark ranger. I thought it was kind of obvious but maybe not.
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>>80446158
That seems like somewhat of a biased rundown.
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>>80446327
That's what they're being accused of, see for instance here: https://www.cnet.com/news/activision-blizzard-sued-by-california-over-frat-boy-workplace-culture/ . To what degree it is the truth, I have no fucking idea, I don't work there.
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>>80446140

State of California has wrapped up a two year long investigation into sexual discrimination / harrassment at ActiBlizz. Allegations of a 'frat house' culture where high-ranking male staff could/would drink heavily at work and harrass female staff without punishment. Apparently one female staff member committed suicide during a business trip where her male supervisor brought sex toys (lube/butt plugs) and nude images of her were passed around.
ActiBlizz then put out a press statement saying that cases like these are why businesses are leaving California, which seems an odd response to serious allegations.
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>>80446297
I'm ESL, but afaik the name isn't pronounced like that, but maybe in Americaland it is. 's cool.
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>>80446367
Usually when these fake allegations come up, they're nothing even close to this serious. Shit like "he made a pass at me" or "he called me darling". Or even just "no one actually did it said anything I just felt vaguely threatened". The fact ActiBlizz isn't just shit canning the accused individuals like what usually happens is also really weird.
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>>80446367
>ActiBlizz then put out a press statement saying that cases like these are why businesses are leaving California, which seems an odd response to serious allegations.
They aren't wrong.
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>>80446367
>ActiBlizz then put out a press statement saying that cases like these are why businesses are leaving California, which seems an odd response to serious allegations.
it's a pretty autistic reply. You'd think they'd just say "ok we'll take it in court" in a very formal manner.
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>>80446409

They haven't publically shitcanned anyone, but several of the allegations were levelled at Alex Afrasiabi, who'd been in the company in a fairly senior position for years. Oddly, he left the company unannounced mid last year with all his social media profiles similarly vanishing. Odds are he got pushed out (or chose to jump rather than stick around) and followed legal advice to go dark.
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>>80446455
They're probably trying to misdirect so they can get some public support by appealing to the crowd that hates California's anti-business policies. Btw, Cali isn't anti-business because of sexual harassment suits. It's anti-business because of skyhigh taxation, enforced corporate benefits, and especially because Newsom still won't let many companies open their doors due to Rona.
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>People telling others to accept that it is dead

I want my halo ships back.
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>>80446455

It was even stranger as it immediately followed a boilerplate "We value diversity, we take these matters seriously" statement, before launching into an attack/rant against the investigation process.
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>>80446409
many of these lawsuits/scandals are specifically manufactured as legal terrorism to intimidate the masses into submission through fear. regardless of truth or falsehood, by crucifying a high profile target, feminists can gain submission of thousands of other targets. louis ck did nothing wrong, laurence summers did nothing wrong, clarence thomas did nothing wrong, susan helms did nothing wrong. but they were dragged through the mud for political terrorist purposes. blizzard appears to recognize this fact with that statement.
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>>80446542

The crowd who hate California's business policies aren't going to support Blizzard, as they'll see it either being too SJW, too close to Big Tech, or being too close to China (see the entire furore around Hong Kong rights being advocated by that Blitzcheung chap).
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>Is there any hope that Warcraft or Starcraft might live on as tabletop games?

Have you not seen the state of D&D since WOW? Everyone's freakshit with massive pauldrons and glowy gems and such.

Have you not seen the effect that Starcraft had on 40k? It was all brightly colored and cartoony up until Starcraft, then the Tyranids took a page out of the Zerg textbook and started getting more buglike, and marines got grimmer and darker.

Blizzard might not have a direct game, but their influence on /tg/ games is both heavy and irreversible.
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>>80446624
Starcraft marines were not grimdark, they were confederates in space that drank beer, and ironically the "prisoner in power armor" was in 40k first, if anything after starcraft space marines moved more decisively in the opposite direction and became full warrior monks in space.
You have a pont about nid design but honestly their old range was pretty terrible and shit like warrior and carnifexes are much better now. Gaunts didn't change much because they were better and stealers are exactly the same for a reason.
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>>80446624
i agree with you, but all that influence has dried up.
its not 2007 anymore. the magic is gone and their designs dont appeal to anyone anymore. they were always a company that was able to stand above the rest of the pack because they put effort into the aesthetics and polish of their products during a time when games only employeed engineers and didnt have art departments. but now, everyone has art departments, blizzard doesnt have anything distinctive anymore.

>>80446669
did they remove the confederate flag in the SC remake? seems like something they would do.
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>>80446199
But the lawsuit wouldn't break Activision. Not even close. It MIGHT be enough to break one game studio, but this is Blizzard, which probably still has ludicrous bank from only spending like, $400 developing new content the last couple years.
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>>80446736
idk, they've had like 5 flopped games in a row
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>>80446624
>Have you not seen the effect that Starcraft had on 40k? It was all brightly colored and cartoony up until Starcraft, then the Tyranids took a page out of the Zerg textbook and started getting more buglike, and marines got grimmer and darker.


Unironically a good thing.
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>>80446770
WoWtards still continues to give them money. No way this lawsuit will be enough to ruin them forever.
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>>80446581
Take your meds, schizo.
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It's funny as fuck that White Wolf made a semi competent WoW RPG.
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>>80446770
>5 flopped games
Say what you will about quality(its shit) but Shadowlands had very high player numbers on launch.
Overwatch is STILL printing money, even though it has only released like, 4-5 maps and a handful of characters since its launch 6 years ago.
Hearthstone is slowly dying, but it still has the casual CCG market cornered.
Diablo is ded, but its nearly 15 years old.
Starcraft is ded, but its nearly 15 years old.
Reforged was outsourced by Activision, so no Blizz money died there.
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>>80446841
not my fault you're too blind too see. it is a pattern going back decades. maybe you should get eye surgery or something.
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>>80446887
i just dont believe it.
i strongly believe that their games are only kept alive via viral marketing budgets and view bots.
they dont release their player numbers for a reason.
also, you mean nearly 25 years old right anon?
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>>80446834
WoW players are massively running off to FFXIV, after the lawsuit news even more will follow.
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>>80446888
'the masses' don't even know who those people are, besides probably Loius CK, much less ActiBlizz. More than that, the idea of a feminist monolith hellbent on using frivolous lawsuits as their main weapon for taking down celebrities and corporations should have been laughed outta your brain, brother. Corps wield the law, not the other way round. And RadFems can't be in the same room for 6 minutes before their twitters eat other, the larger and stronger RadFem devouring the other and gaining their clout.
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>>80446957
>the masses dont know who clarence thomas is
fool.
all those names i listed were the victims of massive smear campaigns that became national scandals. the anita hill case is taught in feminist classes TO THIS VERY DAY. if you were more than fucking 17 years old you would know this.
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>>80444575
Was it the activision or blizzard department that was sued?
Bliz guys seem like feminist camouflage predators at worst.
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>>80446957
>More than that, the idea of a feminist monolith hellbent on using frivolous lawsuits as their main weapon for taking down celebrities and corporations should have been laughed outta your brain, brother.
They literally tried that on Brett Kavanaugh when he was nominated to supreme court.
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>>80446936
I believe it. Was big into WoW back til WoD started the SHARP downward slide in quality, rather than the nice slow downhill roll. Kept up with friends playing it, and every single one resubbed on Shadowlands.
Overwatch was MASSIVE on launch, and popularized the loot box craze.
Same with Hearthstone.
yeesh, I didnt realize the timeline on their other games. 25 years or more, and even SC2 and D3 are decades old.
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>>80447008
And he was nominated to the supreme court. Because it was a frivolous lawsuit without legal backing.
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>>80446988
Stop taking feminist classes then and touch grass.
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>>80447008

LEAVE BRETT ALONE
HE LIKES BEER, OKAY?
HE LIKES BEER
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Warcraft has such a fun idea for it's setting before it all went to shit where they stopped the RPG stuff.

Also, the main idea feels like it has been on repeat since Warlords
>Warlords: We must unite the good clans and stop the bad clans while we gather allies and work with the Alliance/Horde to defeat the big bad guy
>Legion: We must help all the factions to assault the Demons and unite with the Horde/Alliance to defeat them
>BFA: We must gather our forces to defeat the Horde/Alliance. Just kidding, we are uniting them to fight the old gods and it was all a ruse
>Shadowlands: Get this... we are uniting the factions of the area to fight the Jailer...

Whats worse, This was the fucking story idea of Starcraft HoTS and LoV. It's gather allies, defeat the villain. Hearthstone fucking did it with Book of Heroes.

New Blizzard has only one fucking storybeat
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>>80447077
All the good writers and creatives were either fired or left the company. Its a wasteland of talent in there now.
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>>80446409
>The fact ActiBlizz isn't just shit canning the accused individuals like what usually happens is also really weird.

They openly stated the people who were the main perpetrators are no longer with the company. Alex Afrasiabi was quietly fired a year ago and there's a lot of discussion on twitter that Activision forced Morhaime to quit even further back because he and the other Blizz founders were the ones behind the rockstar culture. Ghostcrawler also said he quit because he hated the corporate climate, and that was like 7 years ago now. Funny enough he went to Riot who are ALSO being sued for sexual misconduct right now.
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>>80447111
Wonder how close I can get the style and gimmicks to make units for a tabletop game that makes it feel like Warcraft without being sued by them.
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>>80447029

Are you saying that it was a frivolous lawsuit? Or are you saying that it was a calculated and orchestrated political hit, fueled with apparent pent-up anger about President Trump and the 2016 election, fear that has been unfairly stoked about my judicial record, revenge on behalf of the Clintons, and millions of dollars in money from outside left-wing opposition groups?

Kavanaugh's nomination was a circus, and he is clearly unfit to serve, but the same goes for the other four Federalist Society nominees.
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>>80447213

I honestly can't think of a single thing that they could claim as intellectual property, short of using specific names. It doesn't matter how generic the name is, and it doesn't matter if the same name has been used in other media, if you're doing a Warcraft rip you just can't use any of the names that have been used in Warcraft. But you can steal anything else, and you won't even have to call it parody, you're just making a generic fantasy wargame.
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>>80447216
It was attempted retaliation against Trump. Kavanaugh was the just the tool of both.
But calling any of that shitshow calculated and orchestrated is laughable, unless it really was the best anyone could do, in which case it is more just sad. Kavanaugh made a fool of himself, and the false tears for a woman who was (allegedly) uncomfortable 30 years ago at a party is just gross.
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>>80447213
When Metzen announced he was going in on a TTRPG project, I'll admit to some tentative excitement.
When he announced a DnD 5e supplement, I realized he was still retired.
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>>80447274

That's kind of what I'm saying. She made him sound like a stupid, spoiled fratboy who had everything handed to him, and then guess what, he acted like a stupid spoiled fratboy who was used to having everything handed to him. He acted like the confirmation hearing itself was an attack against him, and it wasn't, it was a job interview to see if he was fit to hold one of the most powerful positions on earth for the rest of his fucking life.
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>>80447077
>Warcraft has such a fun idea for it's setting before it all went to shit where they stopped the RPG stuff.
it would be great as an RPG setting. I've always maintained that the real fault is the limitations of the MMO, both in its presentation and that it requires constant lore to keep making expansions which leads to heaps of shit
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>>80447264
>>80447289
To be fair, I was thinking a Wargame style thing that mirrors the Era that WoW should be going into. Think a WW2 style wargame with insane fantasy guns, people using magic to allow getting into melee, mages, and massive tanks or armed giant mounts.
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>>80447381

Warcraft 1 and 2 had 2 faction, alliance and horde. Warcraft 3 had 4 factions. Warcraft 4 should have had 10 or 15. It should have been a game where you choose one faction to play as, let's say you're playing as the Tauren, so then if you want blood elves or trolls or merlocks or whatever on your team then you have to go out and do a quest for them.

At the end of WC3, the Alliance is broken and its survivors are doing the best they can. The WC3 Horde was a temporary alliance, the Tauren were just helping the orcs, and the orcs were in a position to start splintering based on differing ideologies and differing attitudes towards their heritage. You can see the night elves splintering, with the conflict between the Watchers and the Sentinels, and they didn't even touch on the night elves' response to losing their immortality. The Burning Legion/Scourge is still the most powerful faction in town and is well poised to be the BBEGs, but we also have the Forsaken splintering off in tFT, creating a PC-friendly undead faction that hates the rest of the scourge.

It's the perfect setting for a tabletop fantasy RPG, just pretend that WoW never happened.
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>>80447381
>it would be great as an RPG setting. I've always maintained that the real fault is the limitations of the MMO
exactly
Azeroth is a large, comfy world with a lot of little neat things in it

The fact it's stuck in a MMO written by and for retards is sad
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>>80447530
WoW didn't even have a faction system until the Beta build. Then again WoW alpha had a lot of weird shit like non-instanced raids
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>>80444575
If this lawsuit kills them (it won't) I'd like to see Metzen reclaim the licenses and make a Warcraft TT game with SOVL restored. Will never, ever happen though
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>>80447658

I never played any WoW, despite my love for WarcraftIII and my complimentary love of addiction, but the people I've talked to all say that Alpha was the best version of the game.
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>>80447685
Yeah, it was. Then forced faction shenanigans and PvP ruined everything.
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>>80447685
Honestly it would have been fine if it remained a side game as it was originally envisioned. Remember, WoW wasn't a sequel to Warcraft 3, they were developed concurrently by different teams. That's also why classic WoW didn't touch on any plots left open by Warcraft 3 because they needed to be able to pick those up with Warcraft 4 without people having to play WoW to understand anything.

Unfortunately for everyone WoW blew every previous game they released out of the water in terms of $$$$
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The only thing that can save WoW is going full coomer and having Sylvanas fuck worgen.
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>>80444596
Dude brood war is what fucked SC
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>>80448115
Explain yourself, heretic.
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>>80444696
Don't hire both sexs it always causes problems.
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I liked Wings of Liberty.
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>>80448150
Kerrigans betrayals and aldaris death would have has Artanis and zeratul fight here to the death because she literally proved aldaris point of her being pure evil Infact everyone helps kerrigan to beat the UED even though she keeps double crossing them and not to mention Dugalle trusting a random lieutenant from the colonies over his second in command

The entire story was wanking off kerrigan from the beginning I mean she literally destroys 3 entire fleets by herself oh and the mission that introduced the hybrids forget about that didnt you
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>>80446701
the confederates are people you're blowing up so its hard to say
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>>80448273
They kept them in but only because they were too lazy to do anything with the cutscene besides upscaling them
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>>80448272
>The entire story was wanking off kerrigan from the beginning I mean she literally destroys 3 entire fleets by herself
This would have been fine if WoL ended with Rayner doming her instead of Tychus. Which was obviously the original intention.
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>>80448272
I feel like you're letting SC2 retroactively flavor your opinion of Brood War.
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>>80448272
This >>80448310 the hybrids were great until sc2 shenanigans ruined them. As for the rest, iirc she only double crosses them all at once after she beat the UED down.
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>>80446367
I fail to see the "serious allegation" here? What is anyone being accused of actually doing wrong? Professional misconduct but that's a purely internal issue.
>could/would drink heavily at work... without punishment
Did it effect their work performance? Were they handling heavy machinery?
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>>80448297
Yea it really feels that way

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>>80448440
No I just really hate how every blizzard game has a character that just kills and betrays everyone they can at each turn and the story mode keeps having all the factions ally with them I mean for fucks sake its ridiculous
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>>80447341

Imagine going to a job interview where you would be accused of rape live on television by people who only get to keep their jobs if they continue to accuse you of rape regardless of the evidence.
> Job interview
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>>80448575
Continued allying with Kerrigan past BW was bad, agreed.
But in BW it worked.
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>>80448645
You know what was even dumber?
Thinking that humanized Kerrigan from HotS is an entirely different person. And what's even funnier, they want to do the same with Sylvanas who just got back her last soul piece.
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>>80448623

Yes, it's a congressional hearing. We have congressional hearings before confirming supreme court justices because it's one of the most powerful positions on the planet and because it is irrevocable, the people have no recourse if a Supreme Court justice turns out to be biased or self-interested. Supreme Court justices are expected to think and conduct themselves calmly and impartially, even when dealing with people that they find distasteful, and even in matters that they take very personally. That's sort of the entire fucking point. If he can't handle being accused of rape on live t.v. then he isn't fit to be a federal judge, much less a justice. It is hilarious that you people make excuses for him, it's like you've completely lost track of what was actually happening there, you just saw WHITE MAN VS FEMINIST so you rooted for the white man.
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>>80448741
I'd have rooted for anyone in any situation if it was against feminist scum.
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>>80448735
Oh. I know. I fully agree.
Don't mistake my defense of BW for a defense of Modern Blizzard stories anon. I hate what they did to my first ever vidya and favorite fantasy world.
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>>80448741
I would agree with you if they managed to bring a shred of evidence that any of the accusations were true, instead as it went along the case fell apart under scrutiny and absolutely no evidence was found. And the narrative around it became "SEE TYPICAL WHITE MALE GETTING AWAY WITH RAPE THIS IS WHY WENEED FEMINISM AND ORANGE MAN BAD"
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>>80446367
They should be getting sued for literally funneling taxpayer money into Bobby Kottick's personal tax shelters. Fuck Activision.
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>>80447683
The most likely and best scenario is that Actiblizz gets split up and the IP is bought by another big publisher who would just sit on it for decades.
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>>80449063
You know, nothing can defend modern Blizz's storywriting. They're pushing Sylv's redemption arc, making Anduin the one who will become irredeemably evil Jailer's lackey that needs to be put down for good. Now Sylvie will be forgiven all her past crimes, while Anduin will be ax'd near the end of SL storyline to pave way for Turalyon becoming Blue Warcief.
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>>80449226
This skin concept isn't official, doesn't it?
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>>80449207
Oh god it is that bad isn't it?
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>>80449111
Not the anon you are talking to but it was pretty damning that he claimed to have no memeory of anything he was asked about. Couldn'y be clearer that he was lying to congress and that, imo, is what made him seem like a pretty shitty pick. More so than any of the actual claims that didn't have evidence.

There was a whooole lotta proof that he was drunk a lot in school, which fuck it most people were/are. But his flat "I don't recall" to every question about that raised a lot of red flags.

We should also remember context. The republicans straight up blocked any nominee for the previous missing spot (came out and said that they would block any nominee regardless of qualifications) while Obama was president, which is 100% unconstitutional and pretty much straight treason. So the Dems were looking to make a hit campaign out of anything and who could blame them.
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>>80449373
Well, this is just a speculation made after watching the cutscene after Sylvanas defeat in the raid. Jailer becomes complete again, leaves Sylvie giving her a piece of her soul, and Anduin follows him. We can expect the worst now.

On the one hand, when Turalyon becomes Allance's leader, we can expect that they would be ones who start another dump faction war that the most probably will end up with dumb status quo. But on the other hand, we'll see alliancefags beating their meat to "righteous retribution", as they would consider this war, and every Alliance's war crime (utter destruction of Horde's cities and ripping open void portal in Silvermoon, or even smashing Horde race's orphans on the rock) will be somehow justified, just like Taurajo.
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>>80449491
Garrosh truly did nothing wrong.
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>>80449241
Sadly no, even before HOTS died this was just a fan idea
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>>80449512
Indeed.
In fact, he was so correct, that he decided to delete himself in this expansion to not be further used by incompetent story writers.
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>>80449442
>There was a whooole lotta proof that he was drunk a lot in school, which fuck it most people were/are.

No, fuck yourself, the kids that regularly get black-out drunk at law school don't deserve to become supreme court justices. Republicans are the ones who complain about all the corruption in Washington but they're also the ones with no standards. They make endless excuses for our rulers, imposing their own fears and insecurities onto them, while hating and eroding their own power as voters.

>We should also remember context. The republicans straight up blocked any nominee for the previous missing spot (came out and said that they would block any nominee regardless of qualifications) while Obama was president, which is 100% unconstitutional and pretty much straight treason.

That's fucked up but it's also normal. Republicans are crooks and Democrats are pussies, you can zoom in on any political controversy from the last 40 years or so and see the same shit happening.
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>>80449710
>No, fuck yourself, the kids that regularly get black-out drunk at law school don't deserve to become supreme court justices.
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Aka, don't be a faggot.
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>>80447111
Basically Steve Danuser got narrative control with Christie Golden during the mid to late end of Legion. From there on it, everything became cape shit staring Jaina, Sylvanas, and Anduin even more so than it was before.
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The warning sign was when they retconned Chromie to have a penis
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>>80449442
>Not the anon you are talking to but it was pretty damning that he claimed to have no memeory of anything he was asked about. Couldn'y be clearer that he was lying to congress and that

They were both lying to congress. Ford, literally speculated about accusing iirc Gorsuch previously, and had talked about accusations against Republican SC nominees since fucking Clarence Thomas.

It was just a political grandstanding moment. Neither side whole heartedly believed what the fuck they were saying. Hence why Ford's testimony was peppered with meaningless words and ambiguity, and Kavanaugh's was deflection or specifics.
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>>80449774
They also removed Garrosh calling Sylvanas a bitch for making more forsaken.
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>>80448150
Cut scenes were kino as fuck though.
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>>80449760

I never drank until after college, and I'm also not claiming to be fit to be a federal judge, so I'd say that's a double-wiff at best.

I'm not saying that potential justices have to be perfect, because nobody is perfect, but I am saying that they should be the most honest and the least self-interested of the best of the best. People who get black-out drunk repeatedly throughout lawschool are not fit to serve as justices. People who get drunk and then do fucked-up shit and then lie about it also are not fit to serve as justices. And I think he was both, I think he DID get black-out drunk but I also think he was obviously lying when he claimed to remember nothing. The thing is, even if he was telling the truth and he was frequently so drunk as to remember literally-nothing, that's still utterly destroys his credibility, because he didn't sound *sorry* for frequently being black-out drunk, he seemed to think that it was okay to like beer and that everyone was picking on him. And if he WAS frequently black-out drunk then-
Okay, you need to pay close attention to this next part.
Are you paying attention?
Are you sure?
IF HE REALLY DID GET BLACK-OUT DRUNK MULTIPLE TIMES IN COLLEGE THEN HE HAS NO IDEA WHO HE DID OR DIDN'T SEXUALLY ASSAULT. Which would make his tears of self-pity look even more ridiculous than they already did.
Republicans are cucks.
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>>80449893
Garrosh was to based for that soiful world.
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>>80449893
Just the line or the whole scene?
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>>80449931
>being blackout drunk is damning evidence
lmao
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>>80444575
You'd be better off finding or making some kind of conversion into an existing RPG system.
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>>80447070
Nah, its fine. You people going after Brett became tragically funny after a while.
Lifetime appointment, bitch.
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>>80449931
>they should be the most honest and the least self-interested of the best of the best
How about you stop fetishizing justice to the point that only people with no lives of their own can uphold it according to you??
>People who get black-out drunk repeatedly throughout lawschool are not fit to serve as justices.
Because??
>People who get drunk and then do fucked-up shit and then lie about it also are not fit to serve as justices.
Except he didn't do any fucked upú shit. He was accused of doing it and not only was there no evidence, the supposed witnesses the hag brought up told her that she is full of shit.
>because he didn't sound *sorry* for frequently being black-out drun
Why should he be sorry for that?? It's his liver that suffers for it, it's not a fucking crime or anything.
>he seemed to think that it was okay to like beer and that everyone was picking on him
Because that's exactly what happened. It IS okay to like drinking and they were picking on him, exactly as you are doing now.
>IF HE REALLY DID GET BLACK-OUT DRUNK MULTIPLE TIMES IN COLLEGE THEN HE HAS NO IDEA WHO HE DID OR DIDN'T SEXUALLY ASSAULT.
And you, a random on the internet, apparently know more about his life than he does, because the media told you that he did shit, right??
The only cuck here is you, you semen slurping giga faggot.
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>>80450013

It's not a judgment of you, anon. Maybe you were a heavy drinker at some point in the past, and I'm sure that's fine, and I'm sure you're perfectly qualified for whatever it is that you do (or don't do). But there are some people who DIDN'T get black-out drunk regularly in college, who spent their youth doing less dangerous, less self-indulgent things, and we should look to that demographic when selecting the ultimate arbiters of law in our society. It's kind of silly that this even needs to be said.
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>>80446988
But the rest of us don't take feminist classes, anon. Are you okay?
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>>80450173
>When choosing people who decide cases that affect everyone...
>We should choose the people most UNLIKE a normal human that we can find
Typical fucking communist.
100% this faggot is an alcoholic. The projection is so goddamn reliable.
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>>80450173
Drinking and partying doesn't have an effect on one's skills and in this particular case, judgement.
The fact that you can't grasp such a simple fact means that you of all people should shut the fuck up when it comes to judging who should and shouldn't be able to uphold the law.
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>>80449953
Literally just the word bitch because "the point gets across without the misogyny."
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>>80450168

What a tool. Let me guess, you literally voted for Donald Trump to be the president of the United States. I'm sorry, anon, but democracy only works if we "pick on" the people who are expected to govern us. We're supposed to judge them. It's our job to judge them, it's not our job to make excuses for them.
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>>80450237
>calling a certified bitch a bitch is misogyny
Nu-Blizzard deserves to get fucked raw by the lawsuit.
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>>80444575
Anyone know of where you can get some 28mm not-wc3-night-elfs or minis that are close enough for simple conversions?
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>>80450247
>Let me guess, you literally voted for Donald Trump to be the president of the United States.
I am not even American you retard, but the fact you get so butthurt that you think that I voted Trump shows more about you and your TDS than you would willingly admit.
>I'm sorry, anon, but democracy only works if we "pick on" the people who are expected to govern us. We're supposed to judge them. It's our job to judge them, it's not our job to make excuses for them.
You are not judging Kavanaugh, you are trying to claim he can't have his job because you are butthurt he spent his youth partying while you spend yours festering in your parent's basement.
You are trying to dismiss him as fit for his function because he is a human who had fun.
The only tool here, is you.
Stop projecting.
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>>80450227
>consume central nervous system depressant until you don't know what you're doing and don't remember what you did
>do this in public
>do this regularly for years

It's normal, yes, but it's still proof of some serious personality flaws at the very least. I mean, the kindest thing you can assume is that it was based on conformism, and that the candidate failed to consider the ramifications of that lifestyle because it was considered normal. More likely it indicates that they are irresponsible and self-indulgent.
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>>80449931
>I never drank until after college
Wanted to stay sharp while roofie-ing girls?
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>>80444575
Who's the leader of the horde at the moment?

And what is the undead female former leader doing now?
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>>80450295
Protip: Literally nobody believes you have standing to make any of these criticisms.

If you want people to believe that you're an angel (who just happens to be an asshole), then go back to twitter, because we all know you probably rape kids, you sick fuck.
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>>80450295
If getting regularly black out drunk as a young adult meant that you couldn't hold office, there would only be Muslims and Christian rapture tier fanatics left to rule Northern Europe.
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>>80450281
traditional elf garb
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>>80450295
>it's still proof of some serious personality flaws at the very least
Holy shit you must be a special case of a sheltered kid with stunted social development.
Young people love to drink. There aren't any underlying issues behind that.
>I mean, the kindest thing you can assume is that it was based on conformism, and that the candidate failed to consider the ramifications of that lifestyle because it was considered normal. More likely it indicates that they are irresponsible and self-indulgent.
Or, and hear me out on this, he... just... wanted... to... have... FUN!!!!!!!!
It's way too fucking obvious you spent your entire life on ther internet, because holy shit the judgemental holier than thou attitude is way too obvious and absolutely ridiculous when coupled with the fact you lack any experience in social interactions.
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>getting black out drunk on the regular is normal
You guys need to drink less jesus, this is embarrassing.
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>>80444575
Warcraft only lives on as tabletop RPG now.

Blizzard fucked up the setting beyond recognition, the only way for you to enjoy the setting now is to pirate the original games and the RPG books by White Wolf.
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>>80450329
she was clearly designed to wear a battle bikini, they just put some ugly low-rez pants onto her at the last minute and then in Legion gave her the shitty new armor that covers her midriff cuz sexy is bad
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>>80450343
Its fucking insufferable to hear all this sanctimony from somebody who's only had sex when it involved roofies.
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>>80450356
Or you need to get a drink and have fun instead of having a stick up your ass constantly.
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>>80450376
Mostly because everyone wanted "realism" in their fantasy game about demons and alien orcs.
So no more hot bikini armor, everything covers everything.
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>>80450356
In college, it objectively is.

Obviously you never need to be on the supreme court, because you are HIGHLY abnormal.
Combined with your sanctimony and arrogance, you have worse judgement overall than any alcoholic.
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>>80450393
More so that they replaced the original 'frat boys' with diversity hires and put people like Christie Golden in charge of writing.
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>>80450383
>you need to get drunk to have fun
Why are alcoholics so preachy and annoying? You're literally the same people as obnoxious stoners except fatter
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>>80450292

Can you at least admit that addiction is a negative personality trait? I'm doing my very best to read your point of view here, and it seems like the idea is that addiction is normal and normal is good so therefor addiction is good.

Getting black-out drunk on purpose isn't "having fun". People who get black-out drunk on purpose are fucked up and are trying to drown their pain. I mean, at beast they're fucked up and trying to drown their pain, some people have a self-indulgent nature to the point where they do what they want and they don't care, and as time goes on they just get better at getting away with it. Those are the sorts of people who usually rise to power in human society, not the weirdos who spent law school studying the law, not the weirdos who would compromise their own creed or beliefs in order to uphold the rule of law, but the people who just take what they want and get away with it. Those are the people you're supposed to be watching out for, but you can't, you're too busy admiring them.
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>>80450383
It's possible to drink regularly without blacking out you spastic.

>>80450411
The only time anyone got black out when I was in college was the night we played drunken DnD and almost killed the diabetic kid. I also went to community college on a separate occasions with grown ass adults who did not get black out drunk with any regularity.

And no, I would not be fit for the supreme court. Even putting aside character questions, I have no experience as a judge.
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>>80450422
I thought the lawsuit going on was because of the frat boy environment and the diversity women being abused sexually?
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>>80450453
Sorry, anon, you've been credibly accused of roofy-ing girls and molesting children ITT, and I'm gonna need you to disprove those accusations before I can even take your argument into consideration.
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>>80450356

This is what the social right is all about. "You should judge people for their actions" is the basic premise that they're rejecting.
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>>80450447
>Why are alcoholics so preachy and annoying?
Says the faggot who sanctimoniously preaches how people who drank at college can't have positions of power because you think you are some arbiter of morality.
I only told you to get a drink to chill out because you clearly are a stuck up faggot, but the fact you are so butthurt about alcohol shows that you have some serious fucking issues with yourself that you project onto people who do activities that your holiness considers beneath him.
Fuck off and get a fucking therapy.
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>>80450475
We won't know until its been settled in court.

I live in california, the courts here are fucked and will go on a witch hunt at the drop of a hat.
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>>80450481
Sorry mr fbi 2d is not the same as 3d and my collection of straight shota is my right as an american
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>>80450489
Maybe its just that you're so out of practice that you can't do it right?

See, getting drunk in college (like goddamn everybody else) doesn't have any relevance 30+ years later when he's becoming a justice.

Maybe you should leave this "judging by actions" stuff to the people who actually do it on the regular?
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>>80450516
Well hopefully we can get some solid evidence.
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>>80450451
>Can you at least admit that addiction is a negative personality trait?
Is Kavanaugh black out drinming to this day?? No. then what the fuck are you talking about??
You are just reaching to the fucking moon.
>Getting black-out drunk on purpose isn't "having fun".
Ah yes, a person who is an emotionally stunted anti-social has any authority on what is fun and what isn't.
An outlier like you have no right to claim if somebody has a problem, because you clearly are filled with issues yourself and are just blatantly projecting on "muh alcoholic boogeyman".
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>>80450524
I'm not sure I can take the word of a pedophile to be worth anything.

You still haven't proven yourself better than even the worst alchoholic, let alone Brett Kavanaugh.

By the way, did you know he's in the supreme court for life?
Cool huh?
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>>80450500
That was my first post in the thread. Yours just caught my eye because you take the obnoxious line of reasoning as 'dude just drink like me then you'll agree'. Defending your unhealthy habits with such ferocity online is just proving my point here
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>>80450475
Blizzard is filled to the brim with SJWs, so chances are they are just making shit up for personal gain.
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>>80450572
>That was my first post in the thread.
"I am totally not that anti-social guy, I s-swear!!"
You write and argument exactly the same, you aren't fooling anybody you faggot.
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>>80450599
Kek, alchie cope is incredible. This board needs ids
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>>80450561
I didn't say that I was better than Brett Kavanaugh. I mean he's been a shitty justice so far, but he's better than the other lady that got forced through who has almost no experience as a judge.

But yeah, lifetime appointment is the whole reason for wanting and abiding by extra scrutiny. Why the fuck would you want a """""normal"""""" person on the supreme court? Normal people are stupid as fuck. Just look at the american population
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>>80449931
>fit to be a federal judge
He already was a federal judge and it had been working out fine for a decade. The precise position has also produced write a few SC justices because it's already near the top. Thomas, Roberts, Ginsburg, and Scalia all served on that court. You should learn how the judicial system works.
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>>80450617
Anon, I'm sorry, I'm not reading these posts.

I don't want to get caught up in your roofy-ing and child molestation when that catches up with you legally.

Why don't you just disprove the accusations, already? jesus.
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>>80450610
>cope
Says the faggot who needs to pretend to be different people because his sanctimonious anti-alcohol arguments suck dick.
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>>80450639
I don't have to. Just like Kavanaugh didn't have to. He got to sit through it, have an emotional meltdown, and then get his lifetime appointment anyways because the american government is corrupt through and through, regardless of party, ideology, or affiliation.
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>>80450393
>Mostly because everyone wanted "realism" in their fantasy game about demons and alien orcs.
>So no more hot bikini armor, everything covers everything.

nah this was specifically because Chris Metzen's daughter saw the Sylvanas art and asked why she wasn't wearing any clothes into combat
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>>80450670
So an instance in which the bullshit didn't actually ruin his prospects on getting the position is suddenly corruption??
Leftism is a fucking mental illness, I swear.
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>>80450670
>I don't have to. Just like Kavanaugh didn't have to.
I am offering you the courtesy of applying your own legal standard to your defense.
As soon as you disprove the credible accusations against you, I'll also be happy to apply your own point-of-view when discussing the other topics.

Until then, I'm sorry anon, but I have to assume that you're a filthy child rapist. And since you're that awful of a person, you're probably a hypocritical chronic drunk too.

Please just disprove the accusations.
Why won't you? What are you hiding?
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>>80450475
>I thought the lawsuit going on was because of the frat boy environment and the diversity women being abused sexually?

The investigation itself has been going on for 2 years already, the events that it's investigating are 5-10 years ago, square in the middle of when Blizzard was still running strong. There's a lot of claims now that Mike Morhaime was forced to quit by Activision's board because they knew he had allowed the frat boy culture at Blizzard and that it would eventually come out, so they wanted to cover their tracks. Ghostcrawler quit Blizzard 7 years ago now and he said out loud it was because of the drunk, rowdy corporate culture. So it seems like the lawsuit is over things that happened when Blizzard was still doing well, rather than things that have happened recently.
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>>80450703
No an instance in which you can push a candidate through, regardless of suitability, is corruption. Republicans did it twice during their control of the government. The spirit of the system is supposed to foster cooperation and competition in equal parts, but the reality is both parties simply lobby for power positions, and when they get their power positions they push through whatever they want. The one out of power complains, and then we switch back and forth endlessly. That is corruption.

>>80450712
Sorry anon I don't have to. I was black out drunk at the time, because it was a day of the week that ends with "Y".
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>>80450768
>Sorry anon I don't have to.
You already decided that you do have to. (By your own admission, you may have been black-out drunk at the time)

This has seriously become suspeicious tho.
I mean, if you weren't ENTIRELY guilty, why wouldn't you just hurry up and disprove the accusations.
Any normal person would be eager to do so.
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>>80450796
>You already decided that you do have to
When? Or do you think I am the same poster that you started arguing with?

Anyways, you have no right to question or judge me goy. Please accept my explanation at face value and move on. I need to cry on national tv before I get to move into my new office
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>>80450653
I have a theory about people who cry samefag without any indication of it actually happening. I think these people have themselves samefagged in the past and so project their own tactics onto others because they're afraid to think of themselves as being in a minority. Would you care to comment on this?
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>>80447058
It would be better if feminist classes did not exist. I had to take one mandatory in my school and I'm not even American
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>>80450536
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>>80450599
>>80450653

See >>80450489
Your insecurities are immensely visible and immensely exploitable. You are useless to yourself and of great use to your rulers.

>>80450632

I know, anon. I was saying that he obviously was not fit for the job that he had already.
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I want to have sex with Sylvanas if you know what I mean
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>>80450822

>>80450796
>>80450712
>>80450639
>>80450561
>>80450481

Yea mate, I haven't been responding to this shit, but I thought the first post (>>80450481) was funny.
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>>80450901
Don't, it's like sticking your dick in a taco that's been in the fridge at medium chill for a week. Clammy, moist and cold
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The job of judge requires high moral character and integrity.
If alcoholism didn't damage individual in question too much, one can make a pass, in that particular instance.
However, jobs of such nature are not for party-goers and fools, and much like military, medical or academy, must be held to highest standard possible.
Also, no psychoactive substance can be taken in moderation in any way, and all do damage to personality and mind, however subtle or blunt.
US appears to have questionable standards in a lot of things these days, or at least it's an appearance they have learned to maintain well.
Retarded domestic policies as well, pitiful.
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>>80450960
But she's alive now so it's ok
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>>80450983
Yeah but at that point you're just fucking an elf, and that's terrible.
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>>80450983
She is? Why?
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>>80450975

>Also, no psychoactive substance can be taken in moderation in any way, and all do damage to personality and mind, however subtle or blunt.

Okay now you are just spouting anti-science nonsense. There have been many modern studies that show no longterm effects from moderate use of multiple psychoactive substances and many more studies that show possible positive short-term effects.

The more you talk the more you sound like a straight-laced incel that doesnt understand why he is never invited to parties.
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>>80451016
The jailer fisted her soul back into her
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>>80451047
So she's gonna get a heroic sacrifice then? Cuz there's no way she can just hang around after what she's done.
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>>80451045

I think that might have been that dude's first post in the thread. I'm the one who said that people who regularly got black-out drunk in college aren't fit to serve as justices, but I'm also pretty sure that doing shrooms once or twice is good for you.
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>>80451045
>I'm responding to you and not the other guy because he's been credibly accused of rape
I would also add: Claiming that any amount of psychoactive substances is disqualifying would literally disqualify every person who has ever had surgery, to include many oral surgeries.
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>>80451070
She's propably going to get the Sarah Kerrigan treatment
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>>80451164
Turning into a giant naked fire-bird and then going off to fuck Raynor in heaven forever?
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>>80449774
That's been a fan thing for far longer than an official thing, and nothing imploded during that time.

OP, you're really better off stealing the stuff you enjoy and making your own setting than expecting anything worthwhile to be made officially.
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>>80451177
Yes but Raynor is Anduin
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>>80451045
The same studies by the same kind of people that still haven't figured out a wide variety of other things, while simultaneously shilling for highest bidders?
That you're too dumb to need your mind at full capacity, doesn't mean damage is not done, however subtle it is.
You just don't recognize it because you probably never thought truly well, and just roll around on your intuitive and emotional reasoning.
Human brain is a very fine tuned structure, irregardless of redundancy, introduction of ANY variables into structures like this destabilizes them.
If regenerative resource capacity is exceeded, damage cannot be repaired without external means.
Those same mental destabilizations can be achieved without drugs too.
Also their long-term metrics are questionable in all likelihood, if they don't comprehend the sheer depth of calculative structures in question (which they don't, if they need to figure it out thus far), and actual studies about such matters will be censored, unless they're utterly retarded.
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>>80450376
man those skeletons on the front row are having a good time
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>>80451268
>I wish I still had a penis
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>>80451215
>whatever scientists have to say about this is wrong
An arbitrary and categorical dismissal.

>any change is damage
An arbitrary and categorical dismissal

>if you exceed your ability to repair damage then damage can't be repaired!
That's a truism, it's true but it doesn't mean anything.

>if any studies proved me right they would be censored
>if studies aren't censored it's because they're retarded

We're into take-your-meds territory here.
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so was this frat culture a thing before wow got really successful? During WC3 and early wow for example?
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>>80451013
Objectively wrong statement.
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>>80451360
Probably right after WC3 and WoW became super successful since it's described as "the employees acting like rock stars"
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>>80451360
Yes
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>>80451360
Yes, The one thing that ruins it all is females in the workplace
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>>80451449
Note no women to distract the team and they become ultra successful.
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>>80451405
>>80451449
>>80451528
>make insanely successful games with your bros
>act like you're extremely successful
>hire women as you expand
>10-15 years later they throw you under the bus and the state sues you

so the lesson here is don't hire women since they will ruin your workplace culture?
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>>80451581
Correct. Being gay is the only sensible option in this world. Rejects hos, accept only bros.
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>>80447077
ahh.. hearthstone book of heroes is just revisiting the story for all 10 class heroes from Warcraft

I think you mean book of mercenaries, but that's more introduction to each character that they are focusing on next, since at least DH's story didn't involve gathering friends.
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>>80450376
>>80450422
If you read the lawsuit, there are 5 mentions of times where the males were off playing videogames while the alleged female employees did more "demonstrable" work.
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>>80451360
It worked for Id Software.
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>>80451287
>tfw no boner
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post space goats
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>>80452590
seems a bit like it goes between "someone killed themselves because of how toxic this workplace was" and "video game nerds play video games and talk about women while running a extremely successful buissniess and I don't like that"
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>>80452620
>>80451449
Games used to be made by a bunch of friends who wanted to create something all gamers would enjoy, including them.
Now vidya companies are filled with money grubbing assholes who only see profits and enforce strict office culture.
They sacrifice any remnants of the old days to the altar of wokeism while demonising them.
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>>80452732
Happened to Wizards of the Coast too. Back before Magic became a worldwide million-dollar industry WotC was a crazy swinger company which had company sex resorts and stoners who got paid for doing nothing. All that changed when it became successful
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>>80450173
That's how you get a bunch of moral busy buddies out of touch with regular people giving us shit like prohibition and making sure everyone else has a fucking dreadful time.
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RIP cheesecake blizzard games. Next up, Kerrigan comes back in a burka
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>>80452856
>>80452856

Temperance/prohibition was a classic example of a grassroots movement growing out of control. The lawmakers who signed in prohibition never actually stopped drinking, because the upper class never stopped drinking, but the temperance movement achieved so much momentum that they had to go along with it. I would also urge you to go read about the political status-quo before temperance, temperance wasn't just about getting poor people to sober up, it was a reaction to the (thoroughly corrupt) alcohol-powered political status quo. And the weirdly viral success of that movement had a lot to do with the nature of Christianity, and with America's culture at the time, but it also had to do with the disgust that Americans felt towards that pre-temperance status quo.

Notice how you guy bend over backwards to portray alcohol addiction as a positive trait, how you defend it the same way that someone would defend a moral institution that they fundamentally believed in? This is a natural property of addiction, and it's what makes addicts so easy to control, they'll compromise any other belief in order to justify their addiction.
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>>80453817
>Notice how you guy bend over backwards to portray alcohol addiction as a positive trait
Notice how you want to portray college drinking as alcohol addiction.
Get a life you basement dweller.
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>>80452620
I don't see Carmack as partying hard. His idea of fun is a 20 hour shift. Guys like Romero and McGee I can see it though
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>>80453879
>consume central nervous system depressant until you don't know what you're doing and don't remember what you did
>do this in public
>do this regularly for years
>totally not addiction

I think what you're really trying to say is "being addicted to alcohol is normal for college-age Americans". And you're right, it is, but that doesn't mean it's not addiction. It's one of those cases where there is a stark contrast between what is good and what is normal. It tells you how much integrity people have and it tells you how easy they are to control.

>b-b-but people shouldn't judge other people :(
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>>80453817
You can see the same thing these days with fat acceptance. "Let's defend the thing that's killing us as a moral good!"
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>>80454150
>>do this regularly for years
Did he do it after college??
No??
Then it's not addiction.
Jesus you are such a fucking retard.
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>>80450671
I thought the Metzen's daughter story was about the humanoid form of Alexstraza, queen of the red dragons.
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>>80454170

I agree.

>>80454196

It was socially acceptable to get drunk publicly in college, so during college he got drunk publicly, and after college he didn't get drunk publicly. I don't know what his vices after college were, and I don't really care, I'm judging him for the fact that he kept getting black-out drunk in college, and I'm judging him for the way he responded when questioned about that fact (though, to be fair, we all know that he STILL LIKES BEER. But I don't think that LIKING BEER indicated any serious personality flaws. I think getting blackout drunk on the regular and then acting like this was normal indicates serious personality flaws).
Jesus you are such a fucking retard.
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>>80454442
Is that why she's a fat uggo now?
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>>80455055
Not like it matters, since the dragonflights were written out of the story pretty much entirely by the end of Cataclysm.
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>>80454617
Getting blackout drunk during the one time in an American's life where it's socially acceptable to get blackout drunk? I agree that he shouldn't have been nominated and that the Supreme Court should be staffed by the best and brightest, but jesus, 80% of college students drink and ~40% drink to excess regularly. If there wasn't a social consensus and students were doing that secretly or if those students maintained that level of consumption throughout their whole lives, people might give a shit. Pick a different hill to die on, you've found plenty of better ones.
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>>80454617
>acting like this was normal indicates serious personality flaws
Acting like it's not normal to heavily drink in college and being a preachy imbecile is indicative of serious mental issues.
Anon, seek professional help.
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>>80455080
They're back but they didn't update Alexstrasza's model yet
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>>80454617
Did your alcoholic father abuse your pink little starfish when you were a wee lad that you are so butthurt when it comes to people drinking??
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>>80455139
Heroes of the Storm thought enough of it to give her pants, even if she got a little thiccer in the process.
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>>80449512
>Garrosh in low level WoD quests: I'm going to personally execute one of my generals for bombing a civilian target
>Garrosh in high level WoD quests: I'm going to send my fighter escort to strafe the other people who are coming to attack the Twilight's Hammer, so both sides can end up crippled
The writers certainly did though.
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>>80455218
I mean she's an aspect of life right? She should look fertile
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>>80455244
She's the closest thing Azeroth has to a fertility icon, yes.
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>>80455085

No, stupid, addiction is the enemy. Opposing and calling out addiction is the hill that we should all be willing to die on. Drinking so much alcohol that you can't remember the rest of the night IS NOT SANE BEHAVIOR. All human societies cater to addiction to some extent, but it's also a clear marker of health, a society that is less tolerant of addiction is healthier and a society that is more tolerant of addiction is obviously falling apart.

Maybe you've found a more important hill to die on, maybe you think that race or religion or gender politics are worth getting angry over, but addiction is the one thing that we should all be able to agree on. If there's a more important broad-strokes-issue it's the concentration or dispersal of wealth and power. I'm pretty sure that concentrations of power are generally bad, and that more power in the common person's hands is generally good, but there are people who see it differently and I can see why. But we should all be able to agree that gettting black-out drunk on the regular, even if it's just for a week or two, is something that anyone should be ashamed of. To say nothing of your responsibility for any of the shit that you don't remember doing, I'm not even talking about that, I'm talking about the sheer fact that you got black-out drunk more than once in a ten-year period, that's something that anyone should be ashamed of.
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>>80455165

Nah, not me, just 5 or 6 of my closest friends.

I mean.. I'm tempted to say "men getting blackout drunk and molesting children isn't a joke", but of course it IS a joke and that's fine, we're on 4chan. I guess what I mean to say is that it's real. It's a joke, sure, but it's also real. Joking doesn't make it less real.
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>>80455415
go back to Twitter
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>>80455218
>Heroes of the Storm thought enough of it to give her pants, even if she got a little thiccer in the process.

They also gave her a literal transvestite/drag queen face because present day
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>>80456153
meds skitzo
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>>80446110
>even void elves
Void Elves can be left behind to be honest. They're Blood Elves 2.0 and only exist because a) Alliance never stopped complaining about high elves, and b) the thematic niche existed because blizzard fucked up the blood elves at the end of TBC. So long as you copy TFT/Launch-TBC blood elves into your donut steel setting void elves are unnecessary
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>>80446110
>even void elves
Woah now, let's not get TOO crazy Anon.
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Now that Sylvanas is alive again her ovaries are reactivated. Time to breed her.
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>>80456416
>entering haunted pussy
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>>80456220
>>80456274
Nah, they should simply exist as a small crazy cult that's a thorn in the Blood Elfs' side and make regular attempts to corrupt the Sunwell.
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>>80456543
>make regular attempts to corrupt the Sunwell.
>sunwell
Which bit about the end of TBC was a fuck up did you not get?
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>>80456567
This is a long thread with a lot of shit I've skimmed over. But yeah in the more interesting scenario where the Sunwell is still destroyed there's still corruptive stuff to do and religious things to deface.
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warcraft was always lazy derivative bullshit and was never good.
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>>80447216
Lol you’re such a retarded faggot.
It was legally frivolous and everyone involved should have been disbarred.
Politically it was an orchestrated attack terrorist ploy,
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>>80449624
Absolutely painful. feels bad man,
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>>80453817
Prohibition was the first and last based thing whores did in this country unironically.
Still doesn’t mean kavadork shouldn’t have been confirmed, if the option was between him and some faggot who believes abortions of convenience is moral or even a virtue of skanks LMAO.
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>>80450975
His former abuse of alcohol and promiscuity was his selling point to the left.
Couldn’t put anyone too godly on the stand or all tumblr witches and faggots would kill themselves in some hex ritual against him.
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>>80451671
More like don’t put your whores on payroll.
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>>80444575
If you were to adapt Warcraft to a wargame, ripping AoS might be the best option for emulating the games, a skirmish game might also work if you wanted to emulate WC3s online multiplayer.
But for the sake of this post I’ll explain why I feel the AoS rules might fit Warcraft
>herohammer fits WC3s hero focused gameplay
>simplified combat so as to not scare off potential crossover from vidya players
>no rank and file which fits closer to the rts gameplay
>objectives can be tooled to fit warcraft tropes like creep camps/healing wells
>large units like Ragnaros aren’t going to be too disruptive to the way battles play out (see dread saurian)
>warscrolls can fit the iconic abilities of different units fairly easily (ie; bat riders suicide attack or frostwyrm freezing breath)
Now the things that it wouldn’t be able to translate well
>base building
>unbinding doesnt fit with the way we see magic in wc, mana pools have no equivalent
>powering up heroes in battle would be clunky at best
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>>80456153
Fetal alcohol syndrome? Maybe.
Tranny? No.
>lol sis alexstraza thiccums never ever
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>>80452846
Got any source on all that?
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>>80446110
>being this obsessed with elves
how could you possibly care this much
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>>80444575
There is no hope for the setting.

I suggest anyone who has any characters or fluff written for the setting to rework it to be standalone, i'll save you from so much headache.
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>>80448523
The serious allegations are things like drinking a fuck-ton of alchohol and then going around and ssexually harrasing female employees through things like making rude and very sexual compliments to inapropriate touching. Derogatory comments about rape seemed to be fairly common, female employees where discriminated and not recognised for their work while having more work loaded off on them, oh and a female employee commited suicide during a business trip after what seemed to have been some real fucked up shit (rape may have been involved but it's still up in the air so no assumptions can be made yet) and apparently the guy involved with the woman who commited suicide had passed around pictures of her genitalia, and it's unclear if he took the pictures before or after she was dead.

And all of this shit deasn't come from just one person, or even a handful, it's half the floor staff and former employees that left a long time ago that's either confirming or is experienced this shit. It's not a fringe case where one dude did something dirty, it's the whole fucking upper management and it streched downwards. And that's not touching how fucking petty some of the people in charge was. Absolute cucks some of them with how thin skinned they where.

Not only is that some dirty and sad shit to hear, not only is it horrible that people have experienced this, but this is why they've been having this slow drop of quality. Less people worked on the game or worked drunk/hungover, moral was dropping among a bunch of staff members making them work slower due to physical or mental exhaustion. These accusations are putting a lot of puzzle pieces inplace all of a sudden.
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>>80450310
Currently nobody. Cain kind of pointed out that post Thrall, they haven't had exactly the best of luck with warchiefs. So they have a council now, with each Horde member represented. Kind of makes sense to make this change because yeah, they kind of where shit out of luck with the warchiefs. Vol'Jin had the best track record aside from Thrall and that's because he didn't really do anything and then died.
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>>80444575
Tabletops move to computers, not the other way around
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>>80450310
>>80458492
As for Sylvanas, she's well, we don't know yet. She served this dude named "The Jailer" who she apparently thinks will bring freedom to the world by destroying it (something about making life and death merge), turned Anduin into a Litch King, and then turned on the guy she willingly served since she tried to commit suicide after WotLK by deciding to not serve him when to held a speach about everyone serving him and she was reminded of Litch King Arthas also telling her to serve him. Then she get's her soul repaired and now she's a captive of Horde/Alliance. If it sounds stupid, that's because it is.
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>>80458492
Garrosh had a good record if you consider his games.
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>>80458670
Garrosh? Mister "I'm going to focus my efforts against the Alliance instead of the Litch King"? Sir "Let's trust Sylvanas to not gas Gilneas, she said she totaly wouldn't"? Herr "I'll absorb the power from the heart of an Old God, that will totally not back fire"? Monsieur "I'll go back in time and start my own Horde because the last one didn't like that I had racially motivated lynchmobs attack taurens, trolls, and blood elves"? That Garrosh? You sure about that?

I mean, just the second one alone is a mark since she turns around and literally declares that she'll gas the Gilneans while he's WITHIN HEARING RANGE! The first one at least didn't have devestating consequenses, lucky for him, but it was still stupid.
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>>80448272
>oh and the mission that introduced the hybrids forget about that didnt you
Shut the fuck up about the secret mission you faggot. Literally nobody has a problem with the concept of hybrid or the return of the xel'naga what people have a problem with is that it was handled like complete fucking garbage. The xel'naga were never fucking SPACE GODS and the hybrid were toothless wastes of space after being hyped up for 3 fucking games.
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>>80448272
Executor Nral What are you doing here
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>>80458492
wait, with syvlvanas out of the picture then who is the forsaken's rep on the council then?
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>>80447197
>Morhaime
>responsible for Starcraft existing then for it lasting as long as it did when all the Actijews wanted to kill it
>responsible for suck-and-fuck rockstar culture that put bitches in their place and made titles that defined their genres
CATASTROPHICALLY based, if so. What a fucking guy.
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>>80444575
>Is there any hope that Warcraft or Starcraft might live on as tabletop games?
why not play warhammer? it's basically what those games originally started as.
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>>80457058
I made a post about this a while back, but instead of having a big ol faction army Warhammer focus it around individual heroes in combat instead.

Instead of 30+ models, have 5 or 6 highly customizable ones. Initially this could be mirrored after wows alliance Horde and classes, but through supplements you could get more race ssd's specific, even add NPC factions like scourge or Legion.
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>>80444575
warcraft already has a tabletop game though?
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>>80455219
Yes. Yes they did.

MoP should have told a parallel story of Varian and Garrosh maturing through the trials of facing their anger, hate, and... pride. Coming out both the wiser for it.

WoD could even still have happened for how much it included the war chief and high king.
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>>80458062
I just like them
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>>80444575
There are already the whitewolf books.

They're 3.5 D&D but they're full of lots of fluff and setting details that can easily be translated into any setting you want.

Its also significantly more immersive because cities and towns have proper populations due to not being limited to early 2000s MMO limitations and landmasses

Also the lore isn't fucked with all the cosmological bullshit so you can actually treat is as an RPG setting
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Another thing to note is that WOW lost a lot of the soul of the setting over the years, it was fine in early WOW when it was all low polygon, but when they kept having to 1up their tier set designs over and over and over again it lost a lot of charm now that everyone is expected to be hyper epic with sparkle effects shitting out everywhere
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>>80444575
Warcraft didn't manage to keep its original RPG alive in either the WC3 or WoW incarnations, the Diablo RPG supplements never went anywhere, and Starcraft never got anything at all. I doubt Blizz are suddenly going to start caring about the TTRPG market again.
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>>80461794
They also kept hiring new, slicker digital artists who did style guides and mood pieces and shit and the art direction just tanked. It never recaptured that raw fantasy shit that Warcraft II and III had.
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>>80461905
Oh I know, its why I slowly started to ween myself away from WOW and use OG warcraft art and the original white wolf books as inspiration for my homebrew stuff
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>>80461945
bikini tyrande 4lyf
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I would love a starcraft rpg. Not that anyone needs to sell one but I loved the aesthetic of starcraft 1 so much, I wish I could game in it. I kind of wanted to do up some space marines like they were from starcraft, with the lamps on the armour and the rude things stencilled on but I probably will never have time for that
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>>80444575
No. Both are dead to a lot of people. WoW killed off anything because of the ever-increasing absurdity of the lore and stories. SC is dead too when it gone from a bleak-ish frontier Cold-War like atmosphere to generic space opera shit.
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>>80447683
>If this lawsuit kills them (it won't)
Of course it won't. But hoping it will hurt them and Acti a lot.
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>>80462214
>SC is dead too when it gone from a bleak-ish frontier Cold-War like atmosphere to generic space opera shit.

Almost as if hiring a former Warhammer 40K lead developer to write the Starcraft 2 lore was a bad idea huh
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>>80460527
If she gave birth to baby, would it be undead or high elf?
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>>80462624
i'd have to assume that being a former banshee and undead and whathaveyou, she'd be infertile

but given some sort of out-of-nowhere magical pregnancy, I'd have to assume that whatever the product is it would be something sort of like her (ie, dead...ish)
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>>80444693
Second best.
Tolkien's are the original.
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>>80444444
Checkers.
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>>80446390
'On' can be dialectally pronounced with that upside down a in the IPA that sounds like an A.
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>>80447274
Retaliation for what? For not being part of the PTB?
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>>80446143
This ain't shit being made up and blown out of proportion. The state of CA put a mole in the company for two years. This case isn't some dangerhair on twitter opening a frivolous suit, it's a state.

Now I'm a britbong so I am not 100% educated on this, but I assume that states do not sue companies if they don't expect to benefit.
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>>80459530
Calia Menethil, Arthas sister and rightful heir to the throne of Lordaeron. She was one of the voices most vocal against Sylvanas' refusal to allow forsaken to reconnect with their former families when Anduin made the offer as an attempt to prevent the war in BfA. As Sylvanas went further and further into the deep end, Calia began to get more and more support as she wanted the forsaken to be less outsiders, even within the Horde, and advocated for improvements. When Sylvanas left, the forsaken naturally rallied to her and the council the Horde formed quickly turned to her to rally the forsaken to them again.
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>>80463314
>I assume that states do not sue companies if they don't expect to benefit
That would make sense, but this is California we are talking about.
They are retarded.
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>>80462902
>Congratulations, it's an abortion!
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>>80459530
Currently its Lilian Voss

But she wants Calia Menethil to do it
Which is who the Alliance want it to be
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>>80463732
Shame she's undead, she's fine otherwise
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>>80463881
In shadowlands it is calia menethil who represents the undead of the horde.



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