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Imperial guard lesser known regiments edition

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TQ: Favourite imperial guard regiment without historical vibes
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>>80444351
>TQ
Maccabian Jann-
>without historical vibes
Mordant Acid Dogs I guess?
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When?
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>>80444351
I like the Maccabian Jannies.
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>>80444351
TQ: Favourite imperial guard regiment without historical vibes
Necrons
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>>80444372
>>80444376
my brother
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>>80444351
>TQ
Elysian Drop Troopers (Classic Version)
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>>80444351
Penal legions in general are cool, though I dunno if anyone’s ever been crazy enough to draft a whole regiment of the crazies.


In hobby news I’m procrastinating painting and priming my terrain, but at least it’s assembled and on the table right? Aaag
Should I just prime the buildings black, or grey. Big hmms.
What’s everyone else got on the tables.
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>>80444351
>TQ: Favourite imperial guard regiment without historical vibes
Savlar Chem Dogs
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>>80444372
>>80444376
>>80444387
>nominis secondaries from 40kRPG
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>80444351
>TQ: Favourite imperial guard regiment without historical vibes
Catachans definately. I hope they get a mini update, I'd love to make a kill team or small army of them.
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>>80444391
based on that haircut I'd say their influenced by the Screaming Eagles/101st Airborne
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>Like all Space Marine vehicles, the construction of a Rhino is akin to a religious ritual. At every stage the correct oils must be applied and incense burnt to sanctify the process and ward off daemons and gremlins from getting into the vehicle and working their mischief.

Wtf since when were there gremlins in 40K?
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Have the Thousand Sons been buffed yet? I know they were considered the worst army in the game for a while.
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>>80444428
They're terrible and they'll stay terrible.
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Now that he's done with Mortarion, who will Guilliman go after next?
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>>80444419
Nah. It was some studio guy's army that he made out of metal Space Marine Scouts. His criteria was "carapace armor."
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>>80444428
Looks like they're due next for a Codex so we'll see
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The thousand my wife's sons are an irrelevant microfaction.
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>>80444437
Dang. I guess I'll just use my other Chaos guys to pick up the slack.
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Have ork crusade rules been posted yet?
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>>80444441
The Lion.
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>>80444450
>Space Marines
>Ever being irrelevant
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>>80444454
some of its here
https://imgur.com/a/YC4UNqS

the waaagh boss mechanic seems fun but it feels like in practice the boss challenge fights would be lopsided anyway
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>>80444422
Minor daemons that can infest improperly sanctified machines and cause them to malfunction or behave erratically.
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>>80444374
It's called sisters of battle, fag.
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>>80444454
>>80444468
I don't like how the scrap has agenda and a requisition to give you more scrap, but when you look at options to spend it on, it's just "remove Battle Scar", "add Kustom Job (with all limitation and PL applied)".
Deldar can spend the whole campaign just adding the districts for Raid Points.
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>>80444450
They are relevant to Space Wolfs, who by all rights should be purged for being mutants.
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Still looking to get some feedback on these.
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Do I start on my Black Templars now or wait for whatever is coming down the pipe? I'd hate to build and paint only to get a cool upgrade sprue or something.
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>>80444444
AHHHHHHHHHH
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Do you support your local game shop? Should you?
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>>80444419
wrong there are based on the french para regiments. they even had famas shaped las rifels.
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>>80444511
Mucho Texto
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>>80444515
I stole from mine when they were closed for lockdown last year
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>>80444515
I try but they stopped really caring about their GW stock when a Warhammer store opened less than a mile away. The cashier literally says "go to GW, he will have it" whenever they're out of stock on something.
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>>80444515
yes becuase mine sells their GW stuff for 25% off
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>>80444530
It's rules. What, were you expecting pretty pictures?
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>>80444521
Well, they've got a carry handle. Aside from that I'm not seeing much FAMAS there.
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>>80444515
Those niggers sold everything at full MSRP and then went out of business. Good riddance.
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>>80444555
tl;dr
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>>80444351
>fucked up the title
good job
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>>80444468
>nothing on looted vehicles
Shame. Glad my Big Mek get his relic SAG at least and WAAAAGH Boss is flavorful as fuck
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Ive decided to drop into a "casual" tourney and was hoping for some feed back on my list?
I know I should double down on Eradicators and Plasmaceptors but I'd rather broaden my collection than chase meta atm.
I also have 3/4 bladeguard but without a transport I'm not sure they'll do much more than jog around my back field. Im also keen to maybe drop the Lt or Cpt for a chaplain maybe, though I've only got one on foot.

Salamanders Battalion 1999pts 9cp
>Bike Captain: WL Forgemaster, Hammer, Shield, Salamanders Mantle
>Librarian: Psychic Fortress, Veil of Time, Fire Shield, Tome of Velcona
>Lieutenant: Sword and Shield

>3x5 Intercessors

>Company Veterans: 1x Storm Shield
>2x3 Aggressors: Flamefists
>Ancient: Chapter Ancient with Steadfast Example
>Apothecary: Chief Apothecary with Selfless Healer
>Ass Terminators: 3x Hammer 2x Claws

>3x Inceptors: Plasma

>Whirlwind
>3x Eradicators
>5x Devastators with Melta

>Drop pod

Thanks in advance nerds
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>>80444512
I'm waiting.

We will at least get an upgrade sprue hopefully
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>>80444572
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>>80444563
its a bullpub,mag is in the back., it has a distinct handle and bongs at that time where still i think runing around in fnfals around. not to mention if it be a la85 it be shit,jaming all the time and border line unesable.

tl dr. the only us related regiment is catachan with the vietnam/predator knockoffs.
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>>80444555
That is nowhwhere near the size of a macro lascannon.
On that note, I wish FW sold their larger weapons without the entire vehicle, so I could make towed artillery out of them.
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>>80444511
What's the thinking behind them and can they be stacked?
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>>80444351
Title goes in the subject field, dumbass
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>>80444537
legend. I used to steal from the local GW all the time. They had a big vertical display board closest to the door which would obscure vision and you could grab blisters and even some kits and walk out the door
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>>80444576
>wat is greentext for
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What does the standard Ork army need? Also Bad Moonz or Freebooters?
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>>80444579
>bongs at that time where still i think runing around in fnfals
Well, you'd be wrong.
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>>80444601
did you try the big bofas?
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>>80444599
>wat is greentext for
Being the big gay
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>>80444607
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>>80444601
If by standard you mean green tide, then obviously a bunch of boyz and a warboss to start. A painboy or painboss to try keep them alive longer too. A weirdboy to Da Jump (though thats less good now they nerfed Ere We Go, but still good to have).
After that you've got lots of options for your remaining slots depending on what you like. Alternately Beast Snagga Boyz can replace (and arguably improve on) regular boyz if you were going Choppa instead of Shoota
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>>80444607
Bofa Deez Orkz
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>>80444539
Our local GW has to recommend other lgs because they never have anything and they know other products are better.
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10 Goff Snagga Boys vs. Roboute Guilliman, primarch of the Ultramarines Legion and lord of Ultramar
>3A base, +1A from WAAAGH = 36 Choppa + 4 Power Snappa attacks
>2+ to hit as Guilliman is <MONSTER> + Exploding 6s
>S6 Boyz from Goffs, +1 to Wound from 2CP strategem = 3+ Choppa and 2+ Snappa wound rolls = 24 Choppa Wounds + 3.3 Snappa Wounds
>Guilliman has 3+Sv, resulting in 8 Choppa and 2.2 Snappa Unsaved Wounds
>Guilliman dies
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I have the death guard half of dark imperium, 20 more poxwalkers, 5 blightlord terminators, 3 extra plague marines and an extra foetid bloat drone
Is it worth getting into 40k with this?
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>>80444674
cool reddit post
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>>80444572
Forgemater will be less valuable if you're already T5 and taking the mantle. You don't seem to have much in the way of mobility for grabbing objectives, might be more useful to stack Obsec with either the basic SM aura or the Salamanders specific one? Or just pay the CP for a double WT.
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>>80444674
Judiciar babysitting Guilliman: *Points at u*
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>>80444681
I know, I thought I'd share :)
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>>80444674
iirc he has revive?
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>>80444731
50% of the time with D6 wounds remaining, not in engagement so he can't slap back

then some green retard with a slugga finishes the job
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>>80444674
Should be 1.1 Snappa wounds going through, but the Choppas are still enough to take him down anyway, statistically at least.
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>>80444740
It's 3.3 successful wound rolls, but the snappa does 2 damage per hit, so resulting wounds are 2.2.
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>>80444681
Cool facebook tweet, newfag. Lurk moar.
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>>80444576
What would be a good Bad Moon list for 9th?
I'm thinking of...
>Big Mek with Shokk Gun
>Weird Boy with Da Jump
>2 squads of 15 and 10 boys sperate
>1 squad of 15 Shoota boys

>Mek gun with Smash
>Flash gitz and an ammo runt
>And a BattleWagon with Lobba and a killcanon.
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>>80444790
Looks okay, but means you can't waagh which is a hit
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Hey losers, did CSM get Two Wounds yet?

No?
This game is P2W
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Yo here's my poorly constructed and barely researched list for 1250 pts, which no one plays... Thoughts, /tg/?
>Random HQ choice
>Shitty minimum-sized troop squad with illegal loadouts
>Too many elites for patrol detachment
>One tank that isn't optimal but it's there because it's a tank
>A flyer
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>all that AoS shit that has yet to be released
>more sisters shit
>at least several weeks of orkshit
>They might even milk orktober for all it's fucking worth
>they're teasing grey knights and TS shit next
I'm going insane
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>>80444805
>This game is P2W
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>>80444807
Perfect. Just add a line about not wanting to talk about gameplan, secondaries, potential opponents or anything like that
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>>80444808
ok coomer
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>>80444790
I’d swap Flashgitz for Lootas
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>>80444808
want a ig rework.

i want new chimeras, leman russ tanks i want ig wheeld fast transports i want ig squads in sizes from 6 to 15.
i want ig saw in squads. i want my fucking platoons and companys back.

fuck the shittempus shitcoins, worst looking army with worst units.
only a over fat nigger american could come up with this shit design.
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Are Vanguard detachments ever optimal? Wouldn't they usually just be low model count and relatively slow? Can anyone give an example of one that works or do you only take it if normal troops suck balls and fill it out with transports/HS/fast stuff all the same?
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>>80444847
IG truly is the army of choice for manchildren
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>>80444808
age of shitmar is dead hence real warhammer is comming back.
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>>80444684
Should I perhaps drop the mantle for the teeth of terra and go Anvil of Strength and Rites of War for a more killy capt?
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>>80444863
Yet it's still there hogging releases
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>>80444869
Tons of releases and yet nothing fucking interesting somehow. The only thing released so far that's even marginally nice looking is the vampires but they're still not enough to get me into it. I'm getting tired of AoS and I never even paid attention to it in the first place.
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>Smite
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>>80444864
Depends on what you want him to be doing, either drawing enemy fire by being nigh-unkillable, or being a big threat in close combat? If you go the ToT route it could be better to get Anvil and also Imperiums sword to get up to S8, could make him a legitimate threat against tanks that way.
Alternatively giving him Rites and NGU could just make him a pain by being able to obsec whatever the hell he likes, as well as the mantle meaning that even if you aren't able to character shield him he's going to be tough to remove.
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>>80444849
If you have a way to get Obsec on non-troops, why not?
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>>80444899
>my opinion is irrelevant
We know anon.
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>>80444905
Thanks for the protip, any advice on adding bladeguard or not? Or pehaps dropping the whirlwind for more troops like infiltrators or bolter inceptors for obj grabbing?
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>>80444351
>Megadrop is unavailable.
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>>80444899
based
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>>80444929
Gestapo got it
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mega links never work
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>>80444985
BANNED!
YOU!
CANNOT!
ANIMATE!
GW!
STUFF!
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>>80444985
What is she listening ?
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>>80444365
Where would you source the mongol helms?
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>>80445000
screams of heretics
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>>80445001
Mongolia
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Man, I want all the older models to get this much of a glow-up. Hopefully the other Xenos aren’t too far behind
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>>80445001
fur is easy to sculpt, make them yourself
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>>80445021
Of course!
>>80445036
I'm lazy
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>>80445022
What is he soul sucking? A Skittle?
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>>80444927
Bladeguard have definitely got punch but really need a way of getting delivered to where they need to be, so withouth an Impulsor you might be limited to strategic reserves. They'd be hell to get rid of and if you get the Ancient near them, they'll draw a lot of firepower, but you can basically do the same thing with the Terminators, provided your opponent isn't screening you too hard.
I do like infiltrators ability-wise and a lot of armies make use of reinforcements, but unless it's a mission with a critical objective they might not make an impact. Maybe switch an Interecessor squad for Incursors, then I might be tempted to look at swapping the Whirlwind for either Inceptors like you say, or possibly VanVets, though they might be pretty barebones unless you free up points elsewhere.
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>>80445062
some kind of ministorum official or priest, confessor tad has the same armour
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>>80445022
>glow-up.
you have to go BACK
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>>80445062
Not sucking the soul, mainly blood and flesh
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>>80444351
>TQ: Favourite imperial guard regiment without historical vibes
My guys.
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>>80445022
>>80445062
>>80445083
I always see this
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So am I being blind with this new codex or are warbosses on warbikes off the table?
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>>80444989
Does the female Cadians cut their breast?
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>>80445125
Wut?
Why?
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>>80445116
They're in the FW index, been there for a while
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>>80445116
Wartrike take it or leave it
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>>80444847
>gothic spetznaz in carapace breastplate
>not lit
Bet you jerk of historicals, wannabe /k/fag
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>>80444512
I am hyped for the new Black Templars rules. not because I play BT but because I want to play my SotP with BT rules.

I feel like the description of them, being led by Chaplains and marching into battle singing hymns to the Emperor gave me more of a BT vibe than just IF.
SO basically they are going to be my White Templars

(until their original gene seed finally awakes and they start pegging each other)
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>>80445192
That purplish-pink makes me think of yogurt somehow.
>I feel like the description of them, being led by Chaplains and marching into battle singing hymns to the Emperor gave me more of a BT vibe than just IF.
That's reasonable, BT are IF anyways
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>>80445173
i bet you think you can be a women.
No you cant.
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How do you make a shooty sob army?
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>>80445116
FW, like always
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>>80445192
and you cant do that. no sotb with sm rules. the models have to to be unmistaken for sm to use sm rules and sm gear.

deal with it there will be never female sm and women will be always infirior to men.
like in rl so in hobby and everywhere else.
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>>80445254
But sisters > guard
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>>80445261
guard>sob
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>>80445228
Dial 8 and chuck
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>>80445266
you still will never be a women.
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>>80445263
I’m looking at the rules and nope, you are incorrect.
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>>80445275
i am looking at the rules and i am correct.
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>>80445128
>>80445128
I assume he's refering to the claim made by Heredotus that the women of the Sauromatians, a nomadic people that lived on the east coast of the Black Sea, applied heated rocks or bronze to their daughter's right breast as children to stunt or halt its development. They believed by not having a breast there, the corresponding arm would become stronger and allow them to fight more effectively. Presumably the logic was that men don't have breasts and have stronger arms so no breast = strong arm.

This is often erroneously repeated by modern media and writers as the Greeks believing the mythical Amazons cut off their right breast so it wouldn't get in the way of a bow string, haha silly misogynistic ancient greeks how dumb etc. In reality Amazons are often shown topless in Greek art and always have both breasts and would have been well aware how deadly performing a full mastectomy pre-antibiotics would be.

So I think Anon is wondering if female Cadians, being warrior-women, would remove a tiddy in order to shoulder their lasguns more effectively. Personally I am dubious but given the lack of fluff that mentions anything, maybe Cadia was Planet Monoboob.
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>>80445192
>playing someone else's fanfic chapter
cringe
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>>80445125
No, but they have bred big tits out of the population in pursuit of efficiency. This way they just need one standarized piece of flakk armor for everyone
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>>80445289
Playing a chapter someone else thought up? Now thats cringe
>goes back to painting his ultras
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>>80445284
or anon expects massive g size anime booba cause he never saw a women in real life.
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>>80444583
Yes they can be stacked. I just wanted to go back to the good old days of us having wargear options.
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>>80445284
Thanks for coming to my TED talk
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>>80445323
Ah yes the good ol' days of 2D6 shots of D3 MW to every unit within 6"
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>>80445282
6" 4+ 3+ 3 3 1 1 7 3+
24"Rapid Fire 1, 4 0 1

4+ 4+ 3 3 1 1 6 5+
24"Rapid Fire 1, 3 0 1
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>>80444515
They sell their stuff cheaper than GW does, so yes.
They don't provide gaming space so the usual arguments for supporting LGSes don't apply, though.
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>>80444590
>grab blisters and even some kits and walk out the door
Uuuu I've never went beyond some brushes and paints
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>>80445319
Or that. Given the pretty dire living conditions of most of the Imperium, I imagine it is quite rare for anyone to grow a bust so large it'd be visible under tunics and flak.
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>>80445330
over a 1000 hours in ms word
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>>80445345
You wot. If anything things are too good in the imperium. That’s why they have a trillion people.
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>>80445274
Thank god
Fuck Wö-Men
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>>80445311
>literally just some random dude's submission to white dwarf
Keep coping
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>>80445356
>If anything things are too good in the imperium
well known fact
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>>80445336
1x6" 4+ 3+ 3 3 1 1 7 3+
24"Rapid Fire 1, 4 0 1

3x4+ 4+ 3 3 1 1 6 5+
24"Rapid Fire 1, 3 0 1
and 3 weapon teams

fixed it for you no math tard. try next time harder.
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>>80445323
>HESH shell is so convoluted the rules writers fuck it up
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>>80445364
>retards don’t know population size corresponds with food availability
>qol is proportional to population size.
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>>80445363
Yes, and?
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>>80445369
Your flash light pings harmlessly off the sisters literal breast plate.
She then shoots you with her boltgun blowing off your arm killing you.
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>>80445356
ah yes its the same retards who think that imaginary genders and women are equal to men belive.

then why is japans popularion deckining and africas exploding fucktard?

how about some basic biology before you atempt to start a argument.

man fuck more and procreate the more diere and dangerus it is and have less to no children when there is no threat.

its simple basic biology. its how nature balances things.

as it dose at birth with giving you your unchangeble gender and live roll.
no refunds.
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>>80445408
This has nothing to do with battle sisters having better stats then guardsmen lol faggot
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>>80445072
Dope. Thanks again chief.
Would Bladeguard not be better than the ass termies?? Drop terminators, add bladeguard, drop the whirlwind for a judiciar then add infiltrators/inceptors for obj?
I could do incursors instead but I prefer infiltrators thematically. Why are incursors so much more popular? The minor cheapness?
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>>80445416
incursors are better obj holders for the money
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>>80445407
wrong your one sister cant lift such a heavy weapon not mention lacks all abilitys and genetic changes to interface with the armor. not mention the lack of strength to move in it. the 30 las rifels melt your sister of incoptence if she ever makes it throu the melter and plasma barage.


dont start fights you never win do to biological inferiority.
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>>80445380
I would have been so easy to add those numbers to the base and just say, decrease those attack characteristics with target armour save.
Its like they never simplified a polynom in Math class
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>People discussing that Knights seem to be counter-AdMech meta and might see a return as a disruptive pick
>Openly talking about how the FW option(s) are superior but they're all looking at their recasters
lol

GW has to know its a problem at this point
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>>80445391
I bet you think most people in the imperium live comfy lives similar to a first world country.
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>>80445414
so desperate for attention and yet so wrong.
wait for your turn looser.
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>>80445432
Hello OP, you dun goofed.
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>>80445431
Sisters can lift heavy bolters. Guardsmen need to use a trolly.
Lol rekt by school girls get a life faggit.
https://vocaroo.com/as240nc5MHr
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>>80445431
Anon you realize they wear power armor that enhances their strength, right?
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>>80445453
Not in 40k.
Unless you mean to imply that women are natively S2 and the armor gives +1
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>>80445446
Hi, I know, and fuck if I know why because I'm pretty sure I pasted the info in the correct fields
Maybe its because I failed the captcha the first time?
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Sisters wielding heavy weapons
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>>80445458
>stat autist
Nevermind, there's no point.
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>>80445432
That's a damn good idea!
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>>80445345
Corpse starch tastes like death but contains enough nutrients to give all the women enormous gazongas. Bryan Ansell himself confided in me that anyone depicted without huge fat milkers is actually just a recently conscripted teenage boy.
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>>80444515
>would not trust around children
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>>80445452
>Guardsmen need to use a trolly
*Some Guardsmen need to use a trolly
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>>80445469
big if true
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Guard need two guys and a trolly
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>>80445476
>Refers to himself as 'Uncle'
Always a red flag.
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>>80445477
That is the strongest man in the guard and he can carry a heavy bolter like an ordinary Sister. Cute.
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>>80445416
Bladeguard are good but not as multipurpose as termis, and they lose deepstrike which can be a pain. Plus Sallies can get hammernators up to a (-1)+ save, which is pretty fantastic.
Incursors are just as survivable and as Infiltrators for a over 10% less points, but I agree that Infils feel more fun.
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>>80445493
it's true, the sheer size and weight of the heaviest bolter is insurmountable without powered assistance
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>>80445501
Guard and Sisters are both str 3, yet all Sisters carry heavy weapons by themselves, curious.
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>>80445509
Power armor and grav webs.
Next question?
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>>80445509
You're right, Sisters should be S4 and Marines S5 :)
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>>80445515
>>80445518
Guard toddlers btfo by big sisters
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>>80445518
I mean, this somewhat unironically. Sororitas power armor is still strength enhancing but is represented by still being the same S as normal humans. Thats a non-fluffy result of a limited S/T system that lacks granularity and a D6 based roll
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>>80445518
Marines should go S5/T5 and SoB S3/T4
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>>80445536
Not really pa in 40k is mostly about the protection. Marines are already super human strong. PA makes not much difference compared to other pa using settings you may be familiar with.
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>>80445544
ok lorelet
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>>80445554
You honestly want to argue this retard? Lol you are wrong.
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>>80445493
Heavy bolters aren't considered assault weapons when Sisters carry them tho :^)
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>>80445564
>The Adepta Sororitas use a version of power armour designed for the human shape and size, known as Sororitas Power Armour. Sororitas Power Armour is the only enduring legacy of the reign of Goge Vandire, who commissioned the armour for his Brides of the Emperor, where today it serves the Sisters of Battle. Crafted by the forges of Mars, Sororitas Power Armour is relatively lighter than most suits, providing excellent protection and increased strength

>Though Sororitas Power Armour provides the same level of protection as suits worn by the Space Marines, the lack of a Black Carapace means the Battle Sister cannot fully interface with the armour and so lacks the same strength enhancement and other advanced life-support features found in Astartes power armour.[3] Still, Sororitas Power Armour does improve the user's strength and allows them to better handle heavy weapons more easily.
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Castigator, Lancer or Atrapos?
Been printing a cerastus to go with my ts for the looks, but can't decide between these (Don't love Acheron
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>>80445581
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>>80445570
Haha ha wtf? Posting “facts” that just prove my point. Wtf are you a drooling dipshit?
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>>80445586
>Power armor enhances strength but is still S3 because the system lacks granularity and S4 would be too much
>"nuh uh"
>here's proof
>"thanks for proving me right retard haha wtf"
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>>80445604
>retard: the system is broken it represents sisters as str 3 and marines as str 4
>same retard: here is a copy paste wall of green text saying sisters pa isn’t as strong as marines but offers the same protection.
> Whilst power armour is most commonly associated with the Adeptus Astartes, the Sisters of Battle and many Inquisitors also use powered armour of one sort or another. Typically however these armours may not contain the same strength-enhancing properties or life-support functions of Space Marine power armour
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>>80445620
I didn't say both should be S4 you illiterate fuck
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>>80445626
You literally said you lying retarded weasal
>>80445536
The system lacks the ability to distinguish str between people.
The fact is a human vs Sob in pa is negligible in str increase compared to a human vs space marine.

Christ just stop fucking posting mong. It’s painful.
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>sisters should be as strong as a tyranid warrior thats 1,5 times the size and mass of her
"no"
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>>80445637
How can this simple concept escape you

They're stronger than S3 regular humans
They're weaker than S4 Astartes

There is no S3.5 which is where they should be, and thats a limitation of the system.
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>>80445641
Why is this difficult for you? SoB aren’t actually stronger than regular humans even in PA.
They are in the same band as a mix of humans. Marines are str4 because their entire stat line is due to human physiology not the power armour. The power armour just amplifies their strength,

The exact source you posted twice says you are wrong. PA in 40k is for protection.
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Retarded sisterfags
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>>80445662
>SoB aren’t actually stronger than regular humans even in PA.
Guess you should re-read that greentext again that explicitly says so
>Marines are str4 because their entire stat line is due to human physiology not the power armour. The power armour just amplifies their strength,
Guess you should re-read that greentext again that explicitly says otherwise

Final (you), dumb nigger
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>>80445641
If marines went up to S5 would you keep SoB S3 or move them up to S4? I'd leave them at S3 because even though the armour has its "fibre bundles" it can't move with the sister properly.
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>>80445668
The green text says you are wrong you have to stop you mentally ill faggot.
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>>80445433
>>People discussing that Knights seem to be counter-AdMech meta
How
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>imperial guard fag proves he is retarded
Not surprised. First he argues a guardsmen bas a better stat line than a battle sister now he is arguing SoB should be close to a marine.
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>>80445672
I don't think that solves anything, realistically you'd have to decompress S into a wider array of represented values rather than just shunt everyone up 1. Which was my point; it lacks granularity. SoB power armor obviously increases their strength but putting them to S4 is also blatantly wrong as well.
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>>80445672
It’s not even the muh fibre bundle interface. The Marine super human physiology is the real power behind their strength.
>>80445687
Shut the fuck up you dense pos.
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>>80445694
>Shut the fuck up you dense pos.
Not an argument
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>>80445698
You aren’t a smart person, you aren’t as half as smart as you think you are.
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>>80445678
AdMech doesn't do well into S8 skew, DG Daemon Engine heavy lists can counter them as well though not as effectively
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>>80445694
Yes, their physiology that includes the Black Carapace, which allows them to fully interface with power armour. Obviously the game has to abstract some values in order to make things simple, which is why Scouts are also S4 depsite not wearing PA, which you could have used as an obvious argument if you weren't a lorelet.
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> . Integrated with the armour are networks of electro-motivated fibre bundles which mimic and augment the muscular strength of the wearer. The true genius of the design, however, lies in its close integration with the already superhuman physiology, senses and reflexes of the Space Marine
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Is there a precedent for Ork or Xeno Servitors?
I have a bunch of boys I don't need and would like to turn them into servitors for my Admech force.
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>>80445715
It isn’t the interface that provides the strength. Physiology means their fucking body you esl faggot.
They are super human.
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>>80445639
Tyranids warriors are retarded at S4 T4 and everybody knows it.
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>>80445715
There's also the fact that Catachans are S4, and they're just muscular but regular humans

almost like... the system lacks granularity or something
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>>80445730
>just muscular but regular humans
>Regular humans
>Literally enought muscle mass to give the same protection as flak armor in a undershirt
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>>80445724
I guess Catachans and certain hench humans are just superhuman too, makes all those marine implants seem pretty useless.
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>>80445734
Right, they're jacked. But also still regular humans. So you might as well send people to the gym and forget this geneseed and neophyte business. Or maybe, just maybe.. the system is flawed.
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>>80445723
How much of a dirty heretek your magos is?
I feel like someone Scaevola-tier would have a go at it
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>>80445730
No that is because once again you are a lorelet. Catachan come from a high gravity world.
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lmao what a dumb argument
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>>80445736
Yes actually
>>80445757
High gravity world is why they are “mistaken for ogryns” an Arnie reference,
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>>80445757
>Catachan come from a high gravity world.
...yes, anon. Which results in higher muscle mass. They're muscular.
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>>80445753
There is this, but I don't know how canon it is.
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>>80445765
And higher strength…. You idiot.
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>>80445757
But Bragg doesn't.
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>>80445772
Yes, so we should just ship people to high gravity worlds (no shortage of those) or in artificial centrifuges and replace expensive Astartes recruitment.
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>>80445777
Catachans have obviously evolved a bit. The same evolutionary pressure made things like ogryns.

But as said earlier a Catachan is naturally + training almost as strong as a marine but not as strong just in the same bracket.
Orks are also in that bracket.
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>>80445777
That's not how it works dude. Catachan are absolutely not having a modern human genome
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>>80445777
You are excluding the possibility that marines are gene selected and/or selected from high gravity worlds or strong populations.
Since marine augmentation filters people this would be the case.
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>>80445723
The Deathwatch can probably get away with it.
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>>80445796
>bracket
So you'd agree there is some abstraction involved in the system because of its lack of granularity?
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>>80445805
Now this has to be the biggest cope I've seen, you know the planets they recruit from are named, yes? We know they're not that?
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>>80445812
I imagine inquisitor kryptman has some genestealer arco-flagellants.
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>>80445672
SOB are S2. Their armour is what takes them to S3.
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This can be solved by bumping marines to s5 t5 and leaving scouts at s4 t4
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Necrons won't get buffs because the ObSec dynastic code is so retardedly strong the entire army could not have guns at all and you'd still win some games simply by bum-rushing objectives and scoring them.
Feels fucking terrible.
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>>80445834
>-1 S
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>>80445192
>playing someone else's fanfic chapter
based
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>>80445836
No this is codex creep power creep. Current system is fine.
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>>80445364
>Hey these penal slaves ain't half bad!
>No, they're ALL bad
>*statler and waldorf laugh*
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>>80444404
>He said, not posting his own minis.
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>>80445817

The reason they don’t recruit catachans lorelet. Is if you try to make a Catachan into a marine he will bloat up to twice the size of a marine and his skin will split and his bones will be crushed. He will die violently on the operating table from hypertrophy.
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>>80445817
Why don’t they just recruit ogryns for marines. Lol dumbass.
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Learning GSC, and for now it seems we live or die on deepstrike charges.

Going for 4AE Cult Creed, which gives:
>Starting from the second battle round, if a unit with this Cult Creed is set up on the battlefield, then until the end of that turn, add 1 to Advance and charge rolls made for that unit.

and then paying 1CP for my detachment to be DELIVERANCE BROODSURGE, which gives my Warlord
>You can re-roll Advance rolls and charge rolls for friendly DELIVERANCE BROODSURGE units if they are within 6" of your Warlord when the roll is made.

These stack, right? So I'd be looking at an 8" charge with full rerolls, succeeding 66% of the time?
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>>80445846
Who would win;
A superhuman soldier gene-crafted from youth to be transformed into the perfect warrior, with decades if not centuries of combat experience and the best weapons in the Imperium.
OR
Some fat retard who shits himself if he has to go inside a transport.
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>>80445877
Why bother, he's already S4 and therefore just as strong as a marine. Just give him black carapace and you're good to go
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>>80445892
Yeah, but apparently you're better off playing silly basards with the deployment, sticking your trucks outside your deployment zone and then bumrushing the enemy for a bunch of turn 1 charges.
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Why don’t Primaris just recruit from marine chapters lol.
They can have world of free range manlet marines
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>>80445453
learn the lore retard. the armour gives no strength bonuses. if at allthey have to be made much weaker cause they have no black carapace.

also its inforior version of power armour so not even sm levels of protection.

>Typically, however, these armours may not contain the same strength-enhancing properties or life-support functions of Space Marine power armour, nor do they always provide the same level of protection or mobility.
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>there is some newfag lorelet losing his shit over str 3 vs str 4 differences.
Hilariously these arguments were done over 20 years ago kiddo.
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>>80445910
>the armour gives no strength bonuses

>networks of electro-motivated fibre bundles which mimic and augment the muscular strength of the wearer.

>..cannot fully interface with the armour and so lacks the same strength enhancement and other advanced life-support features found in Astartes power armour. Still, Sororitas Power Armour does improve the user's strength

Round and round we go, will the ESL stop? Nobody knows!
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>>80445910
Oh no it's retarded
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>>80445000
Lo-fi organ and choir to study/pray
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People talk a lot about skittles but these are probably the most ridiculous unit in the codex. About as tough or tougher than a marine, ridiculous in melee, outlfank and a shitton of bonus effects for 17 points a piece. An assault intercessor costs 2 more points than this.
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>>80445515
the armor is not enchancing stregthas a matter of fact they should get a -1 on stregth cause the streing it takes to wield the gear. only man and sm can truly unlock the potential of power armour.

so sobis to str 1. any inq is str 3.
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>>80444923
I’ve seen battle reports where character models capture objectives or is that something else?
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Power armor in 40k is a force multiplier. It means if you are a weak as shit soiboi the pa armour (which won’t be as good as an astartes) will make you only marginally stronger.
If you are a strong person in PA you will get a greater multiplier.
Astartes are super human strong they can bend bars, punch holes through metal etc. when they wear power armour they get a more complimentary force multiplier
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>>80445910
According to DH, as well as the old old Inquisitor game, PA does give strength bonuses to normal humans that wear it, same with TDA.
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>>80445943
If you had a source for this you would have posted it
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>>80445952
It was literally the green text earlier.
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>>80445958
Going to have to point that one out to me, champ.
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People don’t get 40k pa is like a skin, not an exoskeleton mecha.
The strength is derived from the user.
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Thoughts?
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>>80445968
Well, maybe they got that impression from the lore straight up saying otherwise. Funny, that
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>>80445917
>replying to third world spics
It's your fault honestly
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>>80445974
no one cares about soicomic
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>>80445974
it will never be enough
same as ten years ago
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>>80445978
You really are having a mental breakdown again. Stop shitposting kid.
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>>80445993
One day you'll learn english enough to participate, paco
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>>80445978
> Space Marines go through an arduous process where they receive various implants culminating with the implantation of the Black Carapace, which allows the Marine a direct and instinctual interface with the armour, making it in effect a second skin

Are you by chance a fallout fag?
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TSons have either expensive marines or expensive birdfags for troops. Are they worth even running? Is the viability of a faction predicated on how well you can field tough, cheap troops for ObSec?
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>>80446005
>He's some irrelevant greentext that doesn't cover the topic
>please ignore the multiple greentexts that are specific on it, and say that it does increase strength
weird
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>>80445978
Part 2
>Integrated with the armour are networks of electro-motivated fibre bundles which mimic and augment the muscular strength of the wearer. T
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>>80445910
>google the greentext for sauce
>spikey bits
>40k wiki unsourced
uh, based?
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>>80445974
>Thoughts?
I want a sister of battle to lock her muscular thighs around my face and begin to squeeze while she recites benedictions of the emperor from memory until I pass out from lack of oxygen, only to be revived to experience it all over again
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Sisters just have top half str 3. Their leg str is 4
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>>80446013
>augment the muscular strength
Okay.
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>>80446026
>mimic
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>>80446033
Yes?
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Factions that I can play if I like whalers?
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>>80445254
I can do whatever I want with my minis.
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>>80446026
>>80446035
Anon literally said you butthurt low iq toilet locker.
>the strength is derived from the user.
That means the users strength is the primary influencer in the strength increase.
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>>80446043
Gee I wonder, redshirt
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>>80446043
The new snaggas are all about hunting down big monsters and their squig rigs kind of look like whaling ships with a stikka harpoon.
Otherwise make a custom SM chapter?
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>>80446049
what you should do with your minis however is to paint the kneepads again, the purple is super blotchy and uneven
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>>80446043
ask your dad, he's a pro on that topic
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>>80446052
>That means the users strength is the primary influencer in the strength increase.
Which wasn't the claim my little retarded runt of an ESL, was it? It was "no strength increase".

Clearly its sufficient to make regular ass non-augmented humans capable of carrying a heavy bolter just fine, so the increase is significant. Which makes them more than S3, but they're not S4. Hence the assertion that the system lacks granularity. I'm not going to reply to you again, especially if you post the greentext that disagrees with you again. Because you blatantly just cannot read it for some reason
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>>80446072
What did he mean by this?
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>>80446060
>custom SM chapter?
I could put these on a Land Raider or something. I’d also want a figurehead for it like a ship.
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>>80446074
>retard esl toiletlicker doesn’t know what derivative means
You really need a ban. You are just low iq.
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>>80446053
Pour some clear resin around the base, cut off the squig's legs and green stuff it flat, remove the tyres, attach a rocket-powered propeller. Boat rig.
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>>80446100
Same resin, remove the squig entirely, add a balloon to the bottom and give it a flight stand. Float rig.
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>>80446112
I'm at my PC, doesn't mean I'm exclusively spending my time doing that. But yes, feels good to clown on someone.
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>>80446100
Can squigs even swim?
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>>80446065
you are correct and since I took that pic, I did that
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>all the asstra militarum seething itt
Beaten by choir girls lol
>noooo my masculinity
Hahahaha
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>>80446053
Just how much time do you need to paint this?
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Is one miracle dice with a 6 really that valuable? Because I assume the second part isn't that important, Marines got that on a 4+ and noone uses it.
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What emotion created Nurgle then?
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>>80445812
So purification has to include slapping a skull and a purity seal on it?
>>80445830
Sounds absolutely scary.
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>>80444511
Broke as heck as far as pricing points go anon anon though the abilities themselves are fun.
Consider the tyranid adaptations (ie copy the mutations for tyranids as a cost, which from memory iis 2 max per army, first one 1cp se ond one you lose your warlords relic for.
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>>80446191
Hypochondria
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>>80446180
>Is one miracle dice with a 6 really that valuable?
One per round, and yes. Miracle dice are super strong
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Can someone suggest me a good site where to buy enought terrain for a table?
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>>80446191
Nurgle is a god of decay. So every single retarded leftwing anarchist, misanthrope, depressive and degenerate that wished for the world to end.
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>>80445974
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>>80446191
Homosexuality
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>>80446209
That makes some sort of loose sense. Alright, what about this one. What lives in the webway? I might be an easy one, I don't know, the Eldar have never much interested me.
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>>80446206
Etsy, filter by country .
Then buy a gaymen mat and print card stock(Dave graffam has free shipping crates) for the rest
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>>80446084
I think the joke is that the dad fucks fat women
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>>80446216
The Laughing god maybe?
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>>80446209
Would be more accurate if you said conservatives who love stagnation and the christian death cults waiting for the apocalypse
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>>80446180
Easy way to get max damage on a close range melta
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>>80446216
I always assumed there's more stuff in the warp than just demons
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>>80444515
All nearby tabletop stores focus on TCGs and the only wargame focused one closed down.
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>>80446191
despair

read the liber chaotica books, one of the few cases where black library shit is cool
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>>80446216
Stuff like the Kymerae and Ur-Ghuls probably.
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>>80446201
Wait, it's just on the first turn, isn't it?
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>>80446228
Nurgle is just the entropic force if the galaxy. So anyone that ever wished for the situation to be worse than it is because they are an anarchistic.
Sums up leftists perfectly since they made a plague recently then spread it around the globe with open borders and immigration. Another thing that is entropic.
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>>80446239
Not in the warp. In the webway.

>>80446227
>>80446251
>>80446254
>3 different answers
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>>80446224
Thanks
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>>80446261
Yeah but it broke free from somewhere else and if the neverborn fear it they must have come across it at some point.
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>>80445918
>>80445917
the only two retards are you not even havibg the base knolage of 40k lore.

drinking the coolaid and inserting the bottle up your asses.

lore clearly staates sob are in every and all ways infirior to man, in rl sf women get beaten the shit up by just regular guys.

holly fuck how retarded do you got to be.
in no way orcapacity are femails even close to males, mentaly and physicly. not in rl not in fantasy hobbys.

deal with it.

sob will get stat change on the whole line to further stregthen that. -1 to all staats.
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>>80446259
Leftists aren’t the ones refusing to wear masks, sweaty
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>>80446280
I don’t think masks are the source of the communist flu. Leftists refuse to address the source and allow open borders during a pandemic making masks and vaccines kinda pointless in the long term.
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>>80446277
Why is the ESL jew so easy to spot?
It’s kool-aid btw
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>>80445947
according to 40k its not. as this is the definitife lore your wrong.

get back to fallout 76 or what ever you hipsters got conned in to play. this is a diffrent set of rules.
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>>80446277
>the only two retards are you not even havibg the base knolage of 40k lore.
>ENTER ENTER
>drinking the coolaid and inserting the bottle up your asses.
>ENTER ENTER
>lore clearly staates sob are in every and all ways infirior to man, in rl sf women get beaten the shit up by just regular guys.
>ENTER ENTER
>holly fuck how retarded do you got to be.
>in no way orcapacity are femails even close to males, mentaly and physicly. not in rl not in fantasy hobbys.
>ENTER ENTER
>deal with it.
>ENTER ENTER
>sob will get stat change on the whole line to further stregthen that. -1 to all staats.
You have to go back
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>the butthurt retard itt is so butthurt he types up posts full of errors and replies to himself to “win”
This is fucking pathetic even for this place.
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>>80446296
*lights cigar*
This subreddit ain’t big enough for the two of us.
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>>80446011
>yeah ignore the only lore that matters, focus on my headcannon.

sure retard, sure.
time to fuck off and post poc trash in dnd.
i heard black orc.
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He is right though 40k pa isn’t the same as Fallout.
The person goes into that pa and their strength is kinda irrelevant. The PA provides the strength and support.
Reminds me of how I once heard some retard use halo to explain fallout power armour.
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The Astronomican is physically destroying a spacecraft?
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>>80446262
Np anon, you can find really cheap scatter terrain on Etsy mainly, just start off with as much stock and work from there. Fully plastic scenery for a table can cost easily as much as a full sizeD army if your not careful
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Wait so all the Volas are killed? What happened?
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>>80446049
no you cant read the tos and rules. every mini has to represent the gear and faction so its unmistaken and causes no confiusion.

no you cant as per gw tos and rules.
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>>80446317
Always has been. Leftists got to it.
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>>80446317
Vola is dying
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>>80446277
Based ESL retard.
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>>80446292
The three most recent SM codices also say that power armor increases strength. Where in 40k does it say that power armor doesn't make you stronger, exactly?
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>>80446325
Is there another place to share files? Are we going back to using Megas?
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>>80446291>>80446296
>white knighting
>calling some one a redditor

if you got no argument cause you got btfod, just stfu.
you can always kys.

this is for the big guys a place to talk, move your jew propaganda about fantastical equality to the campus. in the real world you get killed for spouting idocy like that.
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>>80446350
But not non-astartes ones hence ordinary statlines and the sane level of protection.
Astartes armour is different. It compliments and amplifies the marines already super human strength.
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>>80446352
Not for now
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Have they announced when the new Boyz and Warboss are coming out? I seen people talking about a combat patrol too, where abouts was that announced, have they said whats in it?
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>>80446354
>white knighting
Not what that word means, ESL retard.
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>>80446310
thats lefty white knight faggots fucking one hobby more up with zero knolage on the matter simply for the sake of pushing some gay agenda.

anons the time to make a stand is now. dont stay silent, shit back in faces of redditards and white knights.

defend your hobby or it dies.
did you like dow?
do you like 40k?

the leftards create a dow3 in your 40k right now.
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>marine armour gives a percentage increase in str of say 10%
>a marine is 10 strongs
>he gets 11 strongs
>a non-marine is 5 strongs
>they get 5.5 strongs
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>>80446391
Or maybe 20%
>marine is 10 strongs
>he is now 12 strongs in pa
>non-marine is 5 strongs
>they are now 6 strongs
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>>80446391
Well yeah. Of course the 8ft tall super human soldier the power armor is designed for is going to bench press any normal human in PA.
A normal human in PA is still nothing to sneeze at.
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>>80446406
50%
>15
>7.5
Anyway you get the point.
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>>80446406
ormaybe it enebales terrminators to do backflips.

just kys.

lore clearly staates zero str increase, non sm users get barly anything out of pa.

whole sob staat line of sob is wrong.
force a change to get flat -1 on all staats.
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What is it about women that sets off the mentally crippled ESL schizo?
If English isn't your primary language you should be banned from this site.
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>>80446383
Literally the only time I hear or see any of this lefty shit is when you faggots dig it out of whatever echo-chamber these cunts inhabit and spread it everywhere.

You're single handedly building a platform for them you dumb fucking cunt. Fuck off and jump under a bus instead of constantly posting whatever latest retardation you've dredged up from twatter.

I just want to discuss plastic toy soldiers.
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Why are people replying to a blatant false flagger.
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>>80446450
What toys are you painting, bro?
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Sisters > guard
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>>80446311
Is this an eldar ship? I imagine a ship made of psychic reactive material probably has some issues getting close to a massive psychic torch
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>>80446355
Nigger.
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Stat differences per point are a doubling of strength in lore.
Str 3 to str 4 is double strength
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>>80446465
I don't think you know what that word means...
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>>80446478
You retard. It is explicitly stated Astartes pa is better than SoB
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>>80446487
>nu-orks are twice as tough as primaris marines
GW is based
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>>80446496
And it was explicitly stated by faggotron that non-Astartes PA doesn't increase strength, which according to the SoB codex is bullshit.
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>>80446499
Exactly an ork at t5 is twice as tough as a marine
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>>80446465
Yeah the "I just want to talk about 40k!!!" as he responds to a blatant bait post always gets me. Either a samefag or terminally retarded patient that has escaped his handler.
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>>80446477
CSM ship.
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>>80446507
They didn’t say that you mega retard.
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>>80446515
> "PA does give strength bonuses to normal humans that wear it, same with TDA."
>"according to 40k its not. as this is the definitife lore your wrong."

learn to read fucknugget
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>>80446515
See >>80445910
And >>80445947 was followed by >>80446292
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>>80446515
>learn the lore retard. the armour gives no strength bonuses
>also its inforior version of power armour so not even sm levels of protection
dumb faggot. You can't even follow a string of posts properly
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>>80446496
Space marine power armour is better quality but it is the black carapace which really sets it apart.

There is a large disconnect between the lore and how things are represented in the tabletop however.

If you find an copy of the old inquisitor game it really shows the granularity missing from tabletop.
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>tfw your armor gives strength boosts
>but you already have 10 strength
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>>80446544
Inquisitor was fun, even if it did end up pitting some inbred noble with rotlung against a fucking arco-flagellant or deathwatch marine
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>>80446536
>>80446539
>>80446541
>>80446544
This is mental illness holy fucking shit kys. You moronic redditors shouldn’t be here.
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>>80446378
>I seen people talking about a combat patrol too, where abouts was that announced, have they said whats in it?
dunno when its coming out
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>>80446564
>they didn't say that!!!!!
>yes they did
>reeeeee you're mentally ill reeeeeeeeee
Get your brain checked.
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>>80446568
This is too good of a deal. That's like four brand new kits.
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>>80446564
>WAAA MENTAL ILLNESSSS
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>>80446564
Fuck off esl, stop starting bullshit arguments based on nothing every day.
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>>80446575
They said Astartes armour is better than human power armour. That is a fact in the lore. You are just mindlessly shitposting.
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>>80444437
Thousand Sons went 5-1 at Gibraltar GT last week, came in 6th place
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>>80446589
Are you the same retarded cunt that regularly shits up /fog/?
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>>80446568
>20 boyz + nobz
>deffdread
>3 deffkoptas
>mega armor boss
Pretty good box.
Lmaoing at those sculpts though. Every pose looks the same, just look at the nobz.
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>>80446591
>the armour gives no strength bonuses
Suck on my fat cock you retard and learn to read. You're an embarrassment.
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>>80446599
>Every pose looks the same, just look at the nobz.
Yeah the new orks seem to be the epitome of shitty monopose design thinking.
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>>80446589
Stop fucking up the thread you schizo retard. Not every post is an invitation for an “argument”
If you want a echo chamber fuck off to reddit.
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>>80446597
There's a fallout general? No, what kind of shit does he post?
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>/fog/
>there us a fallout general?
Yep it’s him.
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Be sure to avoid all bait and samefagging that goes with it and just report the posts.
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>>80446612
>Don't argue about every little thing
>If you want to not argue go to reddit
Do you even think about what you post for a second, or do you just slam the words out in flustered rage because someone disagreed with you?
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>>80446619
Isn't that in /vg/, or does that fallout wargame actually have enough players for its own general?
Was tempted to get pic related to paint for fun.
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>>80446605
>the armour gives no strength bonuses
T-45 Power Armor confirmed superior.
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>>80446625
>comes to 4chan
>gets assblasted at every post he sees
>can’t stop calling mundane posts bait and seething at them
You have a mental illness fag. Go to reddit. You do not belong here if you are this sensitive.
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>>80446619
How could anyone decipher that impenetrable code otherwise
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I knew a fallout fag was shitting up this thread, noticed him for days making off topic posts about NV. Fucking NV fags.
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>>80445812
> mfw
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>>80446651
>NV
>posts power armor that debuted in other games
>doesn't post nv new equips
What did he mean by this?
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>build wraithlord
>try to do dynamic melee pose
>he looks like he's falling over
Well shit, but I still kinda like him
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>>80446675
forgot pic
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Reminder that the best looking Varia Suit came from Prime 3.
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cogfags in reddit are hilarious
>you can't nerf Enriched Rounds by upping its CP because we're CP starved since we have so many good stratagems and half our units run relics because they're incredibly good
>Lucius should be +1Sv against ranged attacks with D1, you can't make it be -1 to AP or something like that, we want a buff that still keeps it as the strongest chapter tactics in the whole game but that also looks like we want our army to be nerfed

like jesus christ the level of cope
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>>80446685
damn he got that /luuuuurch/
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>>80446685
>dynamic melee pose
bro, no.
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Let's take the only set of manual that effectly shows different rules for the different pattern of Power Armor: the 40K RPG.
In the RPG the Sororitas PA is a Light pattern (than means it didn't affect your size, so Sisters still count as "medium") and deals 7 points of armor on the whole body but the chest plate that gives 8. Also it gives some strenght enhancement by 10 points.
The Aquila pattern SM PA, instead, is a Medium patter (it affects the size, making marines "hulking") and deals 8 points of armor on the whole body but the chest plate that gives 10 and it gives a +20 bonus to the strenght. Anyway due to the presence of the black carapace Space Marines are not affected by the negative effect of the hulking size (easier to be hitted) but only by the positive ones (a little speed bonus).
There are medium pattern of power armor for humans too and even heavy patterns (like the Iron pattern for Space Marines) that give even more protection and strenght bonuses but limits movement.

Anyway the +1 Strength and Toughness of the tabletop does not derive from the armor but by the physique of Space Marines: in the RPG they have the traits "Unnatural Strength" and "Unnatural Thoughtness" that makes them incredibly more powerful than an non-enhanced human.
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>>80446705
You missed the try part
Considering the parts you have to work with it's no easy task.
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>>80446450
t.retard not knowing anything about lore, vehemently insisting playing his sob sm is ok

>nuuuuhhuhuu guys i am all of summer here, i am so tottaly a oldfag...
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>>80446685
friends dont let friends wraithlords drink
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>>80446713
>>80446292
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>>80446735
Sister armor is lighter because its not designed to enhance strength like space marine armor. in order to get the improved strength from power armor, you need the black carapace installed into your body to fully interface with the armor and enhance your strength. Sororitas power doesnt have the strength enhancement because they dont get the black carapace installed, so thats a lot of systems not installed in the armor allowing it to be smaller.
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>>80446745
>>80446478
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>>80446685
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>>80446745
>ts not designed to enhance strength
We've had this claim over 6 times in this very thread, then a reply with multiple direct quotes saying it explicitly does, then repeat

what the fuck is wrong with you dribbling simpletons? Seriously, get help
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given the thread is a dumpster fire anyway, whats with the recent influx of ESL (or just low literacy) posters on /tg/ in general anyway
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>not being naturally physically tougher than power armor
You don't need to be a Tyranid to do this.
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It’s so obvious the same underage fag shitting up the thread.
Post anything and he replies with trolling.
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>>80446685
>trying to build a dynamic melee pose
>kit only includes straight leg options

based retard, bless your heart for trying though. you can still try to chop up the model and bend its legs, probably could still make it work
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>>80446767
wowg is in a nosedive, I know for a fact that there are refugees from there because one accidentally posted about he's watching some faggot streamer in here rather than that thread.
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>>80446685
I’d say stick a small tactical rock under his leaning foot so he still has the dynamic pose, just less leany anon.


Has anyone ever got one of these?
I don’t even play imperium but I want it
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Redpill me on the Generstealer Cults
I genuinely think they seem the most interesting faction GW have brought out in a while from the lore to the models
What do you think anons?

Also how do they play?
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>>80446792
>3d print fags
>incapable of original thought
iconic duo
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>marines in and out of pa are str 4
>sisters in and out of pa are str 3
>retard has a problem with this
>mong keeps ranting about the granularity of his shit.
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>>80446801
>What do you think anons?
I think they're great, I collect them

>Also how do they play?
Like shit
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>>80446808
>game does not reflect the lore
>say this is a limitation of the system
>retard has a problem with this
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>>80446694
Is it always 1+? They're 4+ base, 3+ with their trait, 2+ in cover. That's already nasty, but sisters and marines in cover have the same save.
Are you talking about the single-turn doctrine of +1 to save -3" to M?
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>>80446803
What’s their choice of logo got to do with whether or not you own the damn train shitpost kun
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>>80446824
You 100% have Dunning Kruger.
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>>80446766
wrong, you got your non cannon head mentall illnes you considere lore.

definitive 40k lore says its not and this is what only matters.

there is the door looser, fuck off.

sob pa < sm pa in any and every capacity.

flat -1 to all stats to all of sob army
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>>80446831
+1Sv is not Sv 1+. They get +1 to Save against damage 1 attacks, cogfags are pretending this would be even remotely balanced if it only applied to ranged attacks (it wouldn't, it would still be the by far strongest tactics in the game with army-wide ObSec)
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>schizo tard is replying to himself again
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>>80446694
What are you reading, the admech subreddit?
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>>80446713
>>80446292
Guys, power armour increases your strength. It gives you the strength to actually wear the power armour lmao. Sisters base strength of 2 +1 becomes S3
>>80446296
>Enter enter is bad
>Phone posting is a crime
You sound butthurt
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>>80446867
Repentias have S3 naked
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>>80446857
Maybe they should revert it to the 8E version, +1 to their save vs AP-1. Maybe also vs AP-2. They're changing stuff for change's sake, which is s very Tzeentchian thing to do.
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>>80446808
Lorelets just don’t get the lore. A marine outside his pa can punch a rock breaking it in two.
In pa he can crush the rock to dust. If you think about it, it isn’t much of a difference.
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>>80446843
>Power-armor wearing Marine
>Catachan
>Marine Scout
All S4. Game doesn't represent the lore properly.
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>>80446886
Yeah, they're now unencumbered by that heavy power armour :^)
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>>80446867
so what do sm get a +1 to all stats now?
pri sm a +2?

in all fairnes, a sis should then have st 1.
guards man st 2.
sm st 3....
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>>80446867
The point is naked and pa sisters have the same strength. The difference isn’t that great.
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>>80446801
I love mine. Go for it. If if they're my only army with a negative WL I always have fun playing them. And it's really fun to kitbash them.
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>>80446898
You already had this explained to you autist
>marine str is their physiology
>scouts are marines so are 4 str
>catachans evolved in a high gravity world
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>>80446694
>you can't nerf Enriched Rounds by upping its CP
As a cogfag, this is ridiculous. The Ranger counterpart to the Vanguard's 'Enriched Rounds' basically gives them 'Bolter Discipline' and that costs 2CP. 'Enriched Rounds' is ludicrous at its current price, if they don't reduce it to a 5+ auto-wound, I think realistically it needs to be upped to 2CP to even be close to balanced.

I think they should both bump to 3CP if you have over 10 models in the unit. I think that'd maybe be a bit harsh on the Rangers but justified on the Vanguard, 20 skittles can put out a hell of a lot of damage.

The other way would be to bump up the cost of skittles in general but I don't favour that option as much, feels like punishing the unit for having access to unbalanced strats rather than just going after those unbalanced strats directly.
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>>80446915
Bragg has S4 and it's not because of the planet he's from.
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>>80446694
what's even funnier is the levels of necron angst every time a new codex comes out
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>>80446915
>scouts are marines so are 4 str
They're neophytes, you dumb fucking lorelet. Do you even know what that means
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>>80446867
>>80446886
>>80446907
This is your new repenta.
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>>80446919
That one is a good one, there is some mega sperg that went around for years claiming every gun in 40k is more powerful than irl guns.
Even autoguns. Then we see in 40k games and stuff an auto gun is basically just a 21st century automatic rifle.
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>>80446898
Power armour gives you the strength to move the armour, i tell you. As in, all that steel would be too heavy to move by yourself if it wasn't self propelled. Marines are strong enough to move an unpowered suit, but that's marines.
The bonus a black carapace gives you is Shock Assault: +1A when charging. Because you're unencumbered by the suit. It's as if you were wearing scout carapace!
Meanwhile, Catachans are S4 not only because their planet killed anyone who didn't look like Rambo, but also because they each wield a machete and call it a knife.
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>>80446815
Why do they play like shit? In layman's terms I'm just getting into playing
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>>80446919
stubber = big shell
boltgun = micro grenade
lasgun = spicy light
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>>80446801
I love the model so much that I use them with other armies!
Game playwise if your opponent has any idea how GSC you end playing in hard mode.
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Speaking of Fallout, the strength boost from power armor usually doesn't make up for the armor's weight in those games. Gameplay balance after all.
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>>80446906
>>80446907
>>80446926
Power armour lifts its own weight. Sisters do not have black carapaces, so they don't get much more than that -> >>80446941
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>>80446926
Retard
Upon completing the physical metamorphosis into an Astartes and the necessary psychological and mental conditioning, a neophyte is assigned to his first combat duties.
This is usually as a Scout Marine in Codex Astartes-compliant Chapters. Upon satisfactory completion of this duty in his Chapter's 10th Company or its equivalent, a neophyte will be promoted to a full initiate of the Chapter, and will usually next move up to a fire support role.
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Is it too hot to spray my minis? How hot is too hot to spray? Why do they say not to spray in hot weather
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>>80446969
continuing to repeat this despite the codex stating otherwise doesn't make it true.
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>>80446975
If it's too warm out the paint semi dries mid air and leaves little spots all over the model.
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>>80446911
Nice - I'm a newfriend, how do they play
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>>80446969
The black carpace thing didn’t it get retconned with the new repentia?
Someone posted art that seemed to show sisters in their own type of carpace.
Or does it just interface directly to their body?
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>>80446955
Unsuited to 9E scoring in addition to heavy handed nerfs. Hard to hold objectives when you've got t-shirt saves, T3 and 1W with 9E's codex creep so you just get blown off them.

Smaller table sizes heavily nerf deepstrike, which we're reliant on. Even if you do get on the board, you've got to rely on a 9" charge to get to melee, which is the only place you'll really kill anything.

They have some tricks and would potentially be fun to play, but we need a rework with our new codex to be remotely competitive
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>>80446920
>I think they should both bump to 3CP if you have over 10 models in the unit
Yeee. Though, do decrease Galvanic bolter discipline to 1CP, 2CP if the unit is over 10 dudes? Plz. I like bolt action rifles. It's like a historical in space :^)
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>>80446993
"I got this, guys".
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>>80446973
>Upon completing the physical metamorphosis into an Astartes
w r o n g
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>>80446996
its genetic its grown under the skin.
its a humanmashine interface.
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>>80446996
That's not just undersuits to make the repentia less risque?
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>>80446999
When's the new codex coming?
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>>80446831
>but sisters and marines in cover have the same save.
Sister and marines haven't models that cost at 8pts that somehow can also delete the most durable units in the game in a round of fire with their basic weapons.
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>>80447025
They definitely have some kind of plugs in their skin
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Note that a Space Marine needs the Black Carapace to use his Power Armour to its maximum capabilities, but Power Armour technology in general does not require this implant in order to function. The Sisters of Battle, for example, as well as some Inquisitors or wealthy Imperial functionaries such as Rogue Traders, also wear Power Armour into battle.
However, since their central nervous systems are not linked directly to their armour's Machine Spirit (artificial intelligence) as a Space Marine would be, movement is cumbersome in comparison to the surprising grace and natural movement afforded by Astartes Power Armour, and the suit is likewise less capable of efficiently providing bio-monitoring and auto-treatment functions.
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>>80447030
There's new GSC models on the Rumor Engine, so.. Soon™. If you like them, get the models you like. By the time you've put a force together and painted it, you probably won't have to wait long
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>>80446920
Honestly with the power of doctrinas and how easy it is to buff skitarii with other methods, they should be at least 11ppm, on the surface they seem worse than sisters but with how much stronger their special rules are they need to be costing at least the same.
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>>80446996
I've seen those plugs, but then I'll have to do a mental gymnastic and say those allow a basic function, whereas the marine carapace is more integrated by virtue of growing with them, which becomes... WS3+. Because the armour moves like a second skin on the wearer, as opposed to the 1-second delay keeping sisters down at WS4+. Mental gymnastics!
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>>80447047
Some retard confused the pain thingy even arcofags have with power armour plugs and the result is this dumb model and lore
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>>80447050
Adding to this, Power Armor predates Space Marines. It's just Big E came up with a new organ that makes using it way better.
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Do you build a list with 2000 points in mind or start small then move on up later?
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>>80447047
The new art, I can’t find it. Really just looks like they made sisters female marines when it comes to armour.
Most people don’t get the bulk of the armour and difference is just the physique of the wearer.
Which means most all pa is custom fitted.
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>>80447050
Thats agility, not strength. Hence WS3+ rather than WS4+ of Sisters while naked ones are WS3+
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>>80447056
Well they are going up to 10ppm soon. For a buffed version that also has +1A, +1Ld, 2d6 advance (pick the highest), 5++ and immunity to blast.
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>>80447057
Marine lore says it is a gene seed organ that is a new organic nervous system that allows machine interfacing.
I think sisters might have just primitive interfacing with no gene seed organ of course.
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>>80447102
Oh btw that is common in the lore virtually everyone can interface with machines without a gene seed organ.
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How many HQs can I bring and does the kill rig count as one?
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>>80447057
>>80447087
Do any SoB units move slower than 6"?
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>>80446940
hurr durr automatic rifel hurrr durrrr i amretard with zero idea how weapon work. hurr durrrrrrr i put little slider on top of gun to maximum value so it shoots harder.

>your brain onreddit

never ever go full reddit.or you writ stupid shit like that >>80446940


fucko every 5.56 of today is stronger then a 5.56 chamberd 50 years ago and do you know why? cause ammo makes the auchi, yes, ammo makes the auchi. not the gun. gun is just a icomplete tool. ammo is a very big part of it.

you know what is important to, heat disapation. durability of parts....


just stfu up.

said "sperg" was stating the fucking obvius to any one left with two brain cells.
you dumb nigger you are in negative space with your iq. you even drain the iq of people around you.
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>>80446920
Galvanic Volley is ALSO ridiculous, because 8ppm infantry usually doesn't pack 2 AP -1 shots with 30'' range and BS3+ for a reason.
It's just tha Enriched Rounds goes from ridiculous to insulting.
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>>80447118
Vehicles when damage move 3" and Battle Sanctum has M0
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>>80447051
Nice, thanks anon.
Gonna buy one of their vehicles I love the way they look
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>>80447078
>start small then move on up later?
this
I normally build to start with a 1k list
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>>80447117
>How many HQs can I bring
read detachment rules
>and does the kill rig count as one?
no, its heavy support
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>>80447102
ots called move your arm against the surface of the armour and the armour moves then. a sm has no such problems as the armour moves the same time the marines moves his arms or legs thanks to the interface.

no drainage of stregth. increases situational awarnes. in general. a second skin.pa was created for the sms in general.

sob have no such thing. fartigue, lower stregth.
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>>80446990
Ambush tactics, setting traps. You can do mechanized, horde infantry, monstrous infantry, or a mix. Their unique rule let's them deploy as tokens or radar "blip" markers you can then later choose what you actually want there. And most of the army has native deepstrike. You out-deploy your foe. You're a glass hammer but you can dictate where and when you engage readily.

Game wise they suffer from over costed units and power creep. Fun though.
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>>80447167
>entire body is just white with agrax
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>>80447133
>fucko every 5.56 of today is stronger then a 5.56 chamberd 50 years ago and do you know why?
Ammo has expire dates? If improperly stored, it can last under 50 years.
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>>80447139
Galvanic is actually more glaring since it also let's them chip vehicles to death. It should require you to remain stationary and cost 3CP on 11+ units
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>>80447167
>>80447176
I despise how effective it is. But it works on mutant astronaut miners.
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>>80447156
>patrol, 0-2 fast attack
Ohhh, that's what makes the Smasha Nobz' squigboss rule important. So you can field them and ignore the unit restrictions
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whoever makes a new thread please put a proper title on this time
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>>80447176
Yeah it's a play on scifi low budget space suits, even real ones, that were mono color.
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>>80447188
no, chemical expertise of creation of propelants got better. higher chamber pressures are possible to do better explosives, better construction of rifels higher grade metals. in general any 40k rifel is suppirior to anything of today. fuck even ork weapons surpas our human tech.
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>>80446920
Here's your fucking nerf on Enriched Rounds: it doesn't work on vehicles and Radium Rifles are base S3.
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>>80447262
It's a simple counter, really. Luckily the AM doesn't have any kind of anti-tank that's too effective, so it's an easy win if you've got a fully mechanized force.
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Where can I get individual nurglings? I’ve started a Death Guard army and it just feels wrong to not have any as base decoration or on the models.
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>>80447283
>AM doesn't have any kind of anti-tank that's too effective
Other than D3+3 Laschickens?
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So of sob lose their WS out of pa and so do marines. Does that mean pa influences WS primarily?
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>>80447283
>30+ autowounds on anything non vehicle for 1cp is okay
It should be 5+ and 2CP and it would still be one of the strongest stratagems in the game
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Arco-gimps or repentia-gimps?
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>>80447302
>>80447319
Well sure, those are powerful, but what are the chances that your opponent will somehow order his fire so that he cracks a transport and then deletes the unit that was inside? No, I agree with >>80447262 it's a simple workaround.
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>>80447302
I think the issue with the Balistarii is the same issue the Heldrake and Valkyrie had in older editions: amazing unit, but obnoxiously overcosted on the dollar-to-points front. Why would I shell out $65 on a 70pt model when that could get me two boxes of Skitarii and bump up my army another 160 points minimum.

Same applies to the robo-horses.

But I'm a poor fan, so YMMV
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>>80447334
Arco
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>>80447338
>but what are the chances that your opponent will somehow order his fire so that he cracks a transport and then deletes the unit that was inside?
...high? Thats basic strategy.
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>>80447302
>>80447319
He was clearly being sarcastic. I hope
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Where the fuck can I get a Lord of Contagion model? I can’t get Dark Imperium
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>>80447262
But I play Tyranids
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>>80445678
People are starting to take less and less Laschickens. Wipe out a few of them with a FW knights list, and Admech has a really hard time killing knights.
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>>80447361
Didn’t that come in they know no fear.
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>>80447361
Recasters, as usual they have better service than GW/FW
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>>80447346
Chickens are just OP. They should be close to 100 points for that statline.

>>80447334
They have different roles. Arcos are more to bully chaff than anything else, whereas repentias will leave a steaming crater wherever your opponent's fancy elite unit was.
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>>80444805
No, its pay-2-loose.
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>>80447346
>Same applies to the robo-horses
I was so disappointed by that
I’ll never yeehaw at a reasonable price
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>>80447319
Even with a sum of AP-2 through buff, any model with dumb rules like "this 2+ save model can tank for everyone else in the squad" counters it immediately.
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I’m a noob so are you telling me vehicles are not worth it? Anything I put it in it is just going to die with it?
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>>80447400
Vehicles are in a rough spot right now, its a case by case basis
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>>80447400
They don't die with it, they get spat out and have a small chance to die with each model. Typically most of them will be fine.
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>>80447380
The problem with that is that it's a countermeta option. It only works if the Admech player is not expecting it. Because the moment something like that becomes prevalent the Admech players will start again with the chickenwalkers.
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>>80447400
depends on the army. Imo, artillery still wins wars.
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>>80446694
Everyone on Reddit, even the Admech subreddit is calling for nerfs.
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>>80447255
To my knowledge, there hasn't been some quantum leap since 1960s 5.56. M193 and M855 aren't worlds apart in terminal ballistics. Reports I've read before say M193 delivers slightly less joules upon impact than M855. And variants like M855A1 I've read have marginally better results including armor piercing, at a greater cost and chamber pressures, but I haven't read anything too major.
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>>80444388
>tfw you shouldn't find this sexy... but you do.
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>>80446259
>the disease spread because of immigration
lmao!

Because people travelling for tourism and global commerce screen themselves rigorously for diseases, don't they?
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>>80447301
Just print them? They are all over the place and mrmcangry has some cute free ones on cults
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>>80445515
How does the power armor help?
My catachans are S4, same as a SM
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>>80445536
Which is why 40k should be D8-D12
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>>80445125
>Does the female Cadians cut their breast?

It's called a sports bra or binder? Real women wear them all the time if they have to wear body armor.



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