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>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Usage statistics for popular cards
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

TQ: What do you want after Innistrad?
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>>80435741
a girlfriend
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>>80435741
>TQ
Bottom-up enchantments set. Theros rotating out means that you won't get cross-contamination.
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>>80435741
return to Alara
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>>80435741
>TQ
Well, Karn has been sitting on his ass for a while now. His whole plan of blowing up New Phyrexia isn't exactly complex. Not sure how much planning he needs to do to press the button on a bomb. So fuck it, lets go back there are fuck up the praetors.
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>>80435741
Hey, you dropped these. Nice job fucking up the subject too.
>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM (embed)
>how to proxy using any printer
https://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/
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I love how broken this fuckers life is hahahahahaha
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>>80435852
Cry moar fagg0t
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Post cards everyone has forgotten about
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>>80435836
I'm genuinely curious to see if any Phyrexians still worship Karn as their Father of Machines: There's a non-zero chance that Elesh Norn just straps him to a throne when he returns and DEMANDS that he let them worship him.
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>>80435873
Gets em every time.
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>>80435876
I dont know the mirrodin lore that well, but did Karn do anything upon being freed/rescued?

I would assume if he was just freed, the phyrexians would want him back.
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>>80435866
Are you menstruating every day from a botched vaccine?
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>>80435852
Hello schizoanon.
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>>80435793
I'd love some kind of surreal/dream plane that's always evening that's very enchantment focused
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>>80435916
He escaped. Venser donated his spark to him, which purified/debrainwashed him or whatever.
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>>80435873
I think people forgot him because he was one of the worst cavaliers.
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>>80435955
yeah thats more or less what I know. My assumption at that point is yeah, Norn would put him right back up on his chair.
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>>80435947
Uh I got freakin epic doxxed and I'm a canadian guy or something. (that isn't me)
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>>80435898
>I'll block
>it gave horsemanship last turn tho
>wait what?!
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>>80435876
I want to know what the fuck happened to Urabrask.
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>>80435741
>TQ
Return to Amonkhet, or anything that makes insect tribal in standard/modern/EDH more likely, but in all seriousness some sort of return to time travel. In terms of set design, my favorite blocks are Time Spiral and Tarkir, and some kind of series of sets that works kinda like those would get me excited for a standard set for the first time since 2015.
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>>80436009
Probably put in some stasis hellprison so he can't die and create a martyr.
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>>80435898
>>80435994
Oh shit, didn't even notice that it doesn't end at end if turn. Damn.
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>>80435873
I've really enjoyed this cycle since their release.
>Knights are cool
>Elementals are cool
>reasonable stats
>useful ETB and death abilities
>cavalier is a cool word
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>>80435898
>>80435994
wait what the fuck
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>>80435898
enchantments BTFO
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>>80436074
>>80436051
>>80436101
greenchads always win.
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>>80436017
Hey did you ever get Saffron's phone number?
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>>80435741
Busty sexy vampires
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>>80435968
Yes but he's not terrible. A 5/5 flier for 5 that brainstorms on etb & gets shuffled into your deck on death means it can be an annoyance and the scry is always welcome.
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>playgroup think Wandering Archaic is cancer and want it banned
Is my playgroup fucking retarded or have I missed something about this card? It looks fun
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Anyone else find it funny how every other color has a pushed small creature tribal except for the color that’s said to care about small critters the most; white?

Like yea, humans exists but it’s all multicoloured stuff. No ones running around in eternal formats with mono white humans like they are with elves and goblins. Only other kinda white tribe are cats and they’re not even close to the other tribals support despite cats being kinda important to whites history.
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>>80436228
The first one. They either pay slightly more for their shit or you get to copy it. It's no worse than a dozen other free value engines, and it dies to any removal.
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>>80436228
It doesn't matter, you are at their whim. Good thing you bought new product you can't use!
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why do retards keep making the threads? cant even write the header correctly
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>>80436228
>think Wandering Archaic is cancer
holy shit lmao
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>>80436238
>whats the deal with white?
Any other topical shitposts you'd like to casually float disguised as discussion?
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>>80436228
It's the same as all tax like things, people don't wanna pay more, just look at rhystic study and smothering tithe.
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>>80436238
You reek of new player.
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>>80436228
It's a mild annoyance at best and a card that eats targeted removal at worst. Most of the games I played with it it did nothing.
What do you guys think of Prosper? Cast from exile/treasure tribal, or stick him into Valki?
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>>80436228
heh, i actually called that people will start calling for its banning. Personally i have no problems with it, but it def feels like its going to become comparable to primetime, where it starts dictating games by being out.
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Newest brew in progress. Post decks. Will finish after I rip apart the new dragon precon
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>>80436294
Hi schizoanon
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>>80436228
No taxation without representation.
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>>80436228
what the fuck lmao. It's the most enjoyable "STAX" in the game. Either whoever's in the lead has to pay more or else you get value and can turn the spells against them for a double whammy. Or just lets you get shit like, cultivating in not-green.
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>>80436238
its been like this for a while. Other colors have had superior small creatures.
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>>80436259
What started these posts again? I don’t think I was on /tg/ when Kaldheim got spoiled.
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>>80436363
Looks like a pre-con.
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>>8043644
I thought it was just squirrels = memes.
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>>80436445
The shitposter uses it to signal he's upset and wants to quit, it always follows him being insulted. Its been dubbed the "tap out" in wrasslin circles.
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>>80436363
still a WIP. Missing a Quirion Ranger and a Natural Order.
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>>80436485
This.
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>>80436459
so do you fag
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>>80436485
Correct except he is a she.
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>>80436598
your mom is a she
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>>80436294
The op's are always bad. Come on now.
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>>80436612
You gonna cry?
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>>80436634
this is what im talking about, this is the 2nd thread in a row they fuck it up because lazyness
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>>80435898
>hundreds of dollaridoos
holy fuck?
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>>80436666
yes :'(
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Is it creepy or flattering that we have our own tsundere lolcow?

>>80436671
>laziness
don't be naive.
>>80436675
If its out of your price range there are other options available to you.
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>>80436363
>turn 4, I play Vanquisher's banner and choose . . . uh . . . fuck
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>>80436363
>not playing Esper Sentinel in a Knight tribal deck
>>80436485
He stole the idea from the original Toski anon, who you can tell apart from the fake by the file name
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>>80436675
Can you not afford it?
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>>80435873
God, looking at how the others can affect the board immediately and/or hold up threats with their death triggers, this one feels particularly disappointing just being brainstorm on a stick and having zero bounce shenanigans despite having "gales" as part of its name.
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what commanders should I consider for lifegain?
I assume everyone hates Oloro.
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>>80436675
Just proxy it.
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>>80436723
Yeah, thats why I know it is being used in anger by someone else. Toski anon would just dump it in the first few posts of a thread, this chick uses it after getting blown out.
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>>80436728
I can, it's still a lot for a piece of cardboard. don't know where you got that question in your head tho
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>>80435741
>tq
It might be just a tad too soon, but a return to Tarkir.

>>80436539
Dope playmat
I am in the process of getting back into EDH by building a mid-tier Jalira deck. The strategy is to steal shit and create tokens to polymorph them into big creatures (Blightsteel, It That Betrays, etc.). I'm realizing that it's probably a good idea to have lots of ramp as a backup plan. Would it be ill-advised to run cards like Trinosphere and Sphere of Resistance to disrupt my opponents' game plan as a bonus?
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>>80436743
Everyone does hate Oloro. He's so irritating.
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>>80436539
I was going to ask if Quirion Ranger was worth it in EDH but then saw it was Yedora. Makes a lot of sense. Also nice Living Plane, goddamn.
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>>80436743
Only the best

>>80436763
Probably from you complaining about the price, that rarely happens when someone can buy a thing. Happens all the time to people priced out though.
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how do you all feel about the fact that every kind of deck has been done before and it's impossible to do anything original
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>>80436743
I've known two Oloro players, one an ugly working class female and one a trans guy. Both had it packed to the gills with Replenish and Necropotence, and wondered why everyone picked on them every game. It was also their only/one of their only decks.
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>>80436723
Sentinel is a soldier anon
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>>80436763
>don't know where you got that question in your head tho
>it's still a lot for a piece of cardboard
He was right though wasn't he?
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Thanks for removing the unnecessary unrelated proxy links advertisements OP! Keep it up!
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>>80436795
shit did it come out as complaining? I was just surprised since it's not even on the RL
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>>80436818
Perfectly fine. People fucked your mom before me, people fucked your mom after me. Unoriginality doesn't mean it's not a good time.
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>>80436818
Eh.
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>>80436824
fuck
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>>80436818
but anon the deck I made is original
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>>80436818
Don't care one bit. My deck will always be my deck. If someone has the same deck card for card that is something to bond over not rage about.
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>>80436818
the growing amount of new commanders and 4 players makes this irrelevant because of how the decks can interact
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>>80436835
People are on a hair trigger about proxies and the prices of cards because it gets reliable (you)s. Try to ignore the chatter. And yeah, Portal 3K had a really small print run so it's expensive, especially since lots of cards are functional reprints that allow for doubling up on copies.
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>>80436818
There's still so many commanders that are considered top meta or OGs of the format that I haven't played against, and i've been playing EDH since at least 2013.
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>>80436835
Go look up the price of the 3 kingdoms Three Visits. Protip - all 3 kingdom cards are pricey and you weren't surprised. People looking up prices aren't unaware about 3 kingdoms.
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>>80436675
>unique effect
>one printing 21 years ago
>only a small amount are in english
gee anon i dunno
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>>80436818
Jeska and Ikra combat damage matters featuring cards like War Elemental, Quartzwood Crasher, and Dream Stalker
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>pulled pic related from a pack
Do I put her in sedris?
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>>80436910
I knew about some cards being expensive in that set mostly due to scarcity. I thought most of it was jank
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>>80436987
I don't see how that would even remotely help you.
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so the takeaway is everyone will go "they're so overdone" but just make it anyway if you want to have fun
Fuck it I'm gonna make Oloro
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>>80437073
>Oloro
>have fun
Shiggy diggy
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>>80436987
She's cool but has no intrinsic synergy with Sedris. It'd just kinda be there.
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>>80437073
No one has fun when Oloro is around, not even the pilot.
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>>80437073
Make a literal pillowfort with your couch cushions instead. More fun for all parties and much higher chance of getting you laid.
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>>80437006
1 time printing and it has an appeal that no other sets really nail, not even Arabian Nights.
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>>80436539
ew green eew ew ew ew ewww
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>>80435791
this
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>>80437287
no space but we did get a mechwarrior set
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Just ordered this beautiful bastard. Not sure whether to put him in the 99 of Zada as an alternate wincon or replace Zada and rework the deck. It's already chock full of token generators and zero CMC creatures.
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>>80437398
The feddies are out of control.
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>>80437287
The Blind Eternities IS space. The people in the universe are just primitives that don't understand it.
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I want to build an Esper commander but I'm only gravitating towards Alela and Oloro. Are these two just too overdone?
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>>80437457
>The Blind Eternities IS space.
wut?
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>>80437287
>are we finally getting a space set?
Why did this get deleted?

>>80437476
Its space anon. Its just the void between plane(t)s.
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>>80437461
Oloro is absolutely overdone. I haven't seen much Alela personally, for what that's worth.
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>>80437461
Alela's alright because you can at least go hard into enchantress or artifacts or generic esper value. Oloro is pillows and only pillows.

>80437506
Reply to a deleted post and the entire comment chain gets nuked.
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>>80437523
I didn't know that, thanks anon. Why was the original post in the chain deleted?
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>>80437461
both are overdone alela is in like the top 30 commanders
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>>80437551
It had an image of a silver-bordered crossover card referencing Purplesmart from Hasbro's popular franchise "The diminutive horse which I possess"
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>>80437461
Don't worry about overdone. Think about fun. I shamelessly play Zur because I want to tutor telepathy and teferi's realm and enjoy doing so.
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>>80437593
Is Zur honestly still a bogeyman? He was one of the kill-on-sight assholes a decade ago and now he seems still damn good but not as absurd.
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>>80437611
he still is
>t. ran off with a game by tutoring phyrexian arena and dictate of kruphix with teferi's ageless insight and thought vessel out
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>>80437611
sort of. No one playing zur in 2021 are playing a novice build. Its always a netdeck with all the things zur is known as a bogeyman for.
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>>80437637
Lord. After awhile you'd think your playgroup would start running Tranquility or some shit, goddamn. Though I can't complain, I'm usually doing Meren horseshit and no one even runs Relic, let alone RiP or something I might give a shit about.
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>>80437611
I used him for my Esper zombie deck before Varina came out. Took a few games before people believed I wasn't doing the usual Zur bullshit. He's still got a rep.
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>>80436818
Eventually you have to step back and just ask yourself if you really need to BUILD a deck to enjoy playing it. If no then just dick around on Tappedout or EDHREC and find a build you own part of or something you like the look of. Plenty of sites let you goldfish with lists.
If you do need to build a deck to enjoy it than either nut up and deal with the fact that after a few hours of outlining a deck it'll look functionally identical to a bunch of other decks OR set some limitations (like no cards worth more than $2) or limit the number of colors you run in a commander's color identity (boros vampires in an Edgar Markov deck).
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>>80437659
That's a fair point. Not many people are throwing together cards they happen to have and incidentally run into a rare from Coldsnap.

>>80437707
How is Varina? I already have zombie Tribal in Gisa so I'm unlikely to build her, but she seems really good at rocketing through the deck for reanimation strats.
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>>80437461
I’m having a lot of fun with Varina zombie tribal, feels very battecruiser and you get to run white zombies like oketra. I don’t run a large number of Esper staples personally but they are an option.
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Forget the mailman, post your trades.
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>>80437758
what even counts as an esper staple?
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>>80437611
repeatable tutor in the CZ is always going to be annoying to deal with.
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>>80437770
I sell my newly acquired trades to the LGS. I don't want them on me when the kid comes back crying about being ripped off.
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>>80437775
Thopter Foundry? Maybe esper charm?
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>>80437748
Varina's pretty good. I switched to Nevinyrral briefly, but he's just too expensive. The deck hasn't performed as well since, either. I think it's mad at me.
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>>80437804
Based.
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>>80437748
Varina is cool, I think you have to be careful about which direction you go with her. Trying to fit zombie stuff and reanimate stuff at the same time felt bad to me, I ended up cutting most of it except the big ones like living death typically as a finisher. Arch fiend of Ifnir is Varinas husbando btw.
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>>80437842
I know the feeling. I've never had a deck I re-helmed go smoothly.
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>>80437831
esper charm is amazing barely ever use the discard option but the draw and enchantment destruction are always useful
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>>80437868
I've definitely run into problems like that before at least she has a soft payoff innately. Living Death I'm skeptical of just because the drawback always seemed too high
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Return to Kamigawa
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How did she get that scar?
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>>80437934
My pod is pretty soft on graveyard hate, and I primarily use it to recover after a board wipe since they usually come down after I build up a chunky board state. It’s definitely a card I have to be careful with though, it works out for me more than it doesn’t.
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>>80437934
Living Death is great. I've had people scoop when I've played it before.
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>>80438033
She used teeth on the demon when it specifically told her not to.
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>>80438033
Resisting enrichment.
This was a guy before they told the artist to make it female.
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>>80438033
Fucking demons
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>people keep saying local lgs unironically
MAKE IT STOP
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>>80438251
RIP in pieces bitch
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>>80438251
That's dumb. They should just say Friendly flgs like a normal person.
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>>80438262
That one actually works though.
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>>80437457
That makes a lot of sense actually.
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>>80438277
anon I think you missed the joke local lgs is funny because its local local lgs but friendly flgs doesnt work that well because your saying friendly flagship local game store so it doesnt work
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>>80438286
>rip in pieces in pieces
not really

>>80438304
Thats how its worked in every medium that does it.
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>>80436666
Fuck you satn
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>playgroup met a few weeks ago
>we haven't met in months; work, kids, cof, etc
>tryhard fag killed me on turn 4, unwarranted, in 2 different games
>couldn't kill the others
>had to spend most of the games looking down at my cellphone
>complain on /edhg/
>get some sympathy
>playgroup met last weekend
>tryhard fag wasn't invited
>mfw
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>>80438033
Her father was ... a drinker
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>>80438423
I didn't get invited back to a game with some gay guys because they could tell I wasn't used to being around them and kept asking them questions like they were science experiments. They started throwing out softball questions to gauge my leanings and I clammed up. When they asked if I was a bigot I said
>no I'm just not used to hanging out with black people
Thinking that would someone be better than mentioning they were gay or that it wouldn't be bigoted somehow.
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Aw fuck it, I'm just going to buy the BG elves precon and upgrade it
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>>80438531
somehow*
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>>80438531
>asked if I were a bigot
imagine being so low test you dont immediately respond with "yes faggot" while looking them straight in the eyes
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>>80438531
>with some gay guys
So Golos players?
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>>80438571
I've heard how gays respond to high test, I was trying to avoid anything that would put a spotlight onto me.
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>>80436671
At least I can find it by searching edh. That literally all I need.
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>>80438531
>asked if I were a bigot
The correct response would be "depends on how this game goes"
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>>80438612
They played Kazuul and og Heliod. One was super flamboyant and the other was like a fat ugly bastard from a doujin but black.
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>>80438369
RIP is Rest in PEACE you literal mongoloid
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>>80438661
Is it your first day? Trolling is a art.
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>>80438661
actually is peas
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>>80438675
An, not a. The article changes when the next word (art) begins with a vowel (a). Dumb ESL.
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>>80438661
its rest in pepperoni you heathen.
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>>80438710
This
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Zurgo or Greven?
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>>80438705
>pronouncing art wrong
wew
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>>80438739
Yes
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>>80438739
Which Zurgo?
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>>80438768
Big zurgo, already have a mono red deck
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>>80438739
Zurgo is a glass canon, Greven is like pottery canon.
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>>80438784
Greven then unless you want to build both Zurgos for personal reasons. Greven is slightly less cookie cutter.
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Why the fuck are my draft chaff elf cards worth 20 dollars all the sudden
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>>80438843
Lathril is the new hotness, plus targeted buyouts because people expected more elves from the D&D set.
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>>80438804
Yeah have big zurgo currently, but he’s so old the tune up cost is about the same as the bits for greven because I have most of the overlapping stuff already
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>>80438857
I never thought I'd say this, but we need to kill Rudy
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>>80438785
Greven lists seems to more chaff to power up greven at least with zurgo you can fall back on boardwipes and boros equipment
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>>80438880
Use code RUDY20 for 20% off your next floppy taco.
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>>80438880
Did it really took you this long?
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>>80438933
A fool of a took
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>>80437770
This was the last set of stuff I traded for. Almost feel bad I traded a hull teacher for the clamp+paladin then it got banned like 4 days later.
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So we all agree the Adventure of the Forgotten Realms is dog shit?
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>>80439556
it's a fine set. Shit isn't Eldraine-tier and it's not strixhaven tier either. It's perfectly serviceable as a crossover and it's cheap as shit.
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>>80439556
except for 1 card
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>>80436459
>has cavern of souls, teferi's protection and land tax
in what world does that look like a precon?
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>>80437770
Imagine trading, breaking even all the time, instead of buying cards that will only appreciate, therefore adding to your ever-expanding net worth.

Fucking child.
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is anyone else just bad at making decks
I barely even get to play so I have no idea what a good deck should look like in practice
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>>80439612
Teferi's Protection is literally from a precon
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>>80439556
No, it's the best magic set this year.
How you can look me in the face and say anything is dogshit when compared to kaldheim, is beyond my belief
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>>80439655
He's probably one of the fags who thinks he has to hate it because MaRo wasn't involved, so it's not power-crept to all hell and nicely balanced within its own set.
Sure, most of the cards won't see much if any play in eternal formats like EDH or Modern, especially after a set like MH2, but you're absolutely right that it's miles better than the mess that was Kaldheim.
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>>80436875
>People are on a hair trigger about proxies and the prices of cards because it gets reliable (you)s
Why is this the one thing that autists always latch onto? Almost any other topic, including someone posting literal futa porn, everyone is civil about. But the moment you even entertain the fact of proxying something, all hell breaks loose. It can’t be just one shitposter.
Or is it the fact that (you)s are the equivalent of reddit upvotes, and anons are addicted?
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>>80439655
diceroll mechanics made it a trash set in my eyes alone
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>>80439622
No, building decks is my strength. I'm not great as a player.
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>>80438560
Nevermind, I'm going to build butch Radha and burn people out with Fireball or Jaya's Inferno.
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>>80439722
Both.
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>>80439722
Attention is attention. People want to be validated, they want to feel like their opinion means something, they want to feel like they impact anything beyond themselves. Reddit made the mistake of turning itself into a scoreboard but it's still the core impetus behind most over-reactionary content. Clicks, views, (you)s, upvotes, retweets, it's all the same metric with different names.

>>80439742
What's especially dumb is that the fact they had to dumb it down to core-set levels means it's all surface level shit. The commander precons at least have some cool designs with rolling multiple dice and choosing how the results are alloted, it's not "roll a d20 to see if you overpaid/underpaid on mana"

>>80439622
I'm hot garbage but my friends are worse so I get the W
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>>80439749
Fuck yeah. Don't forget Crackle. Probably worse than comet storm but the numbers get real big real quick.
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>>80439629
yeah and it never will be
and you know it
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>>80439777
At the end of the day, anons are just filthy attention whores like anyone else?
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>>80439811
never will be again*
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>>80439824
Against all odds, the people here still are people.
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Give me.....your budget lists....
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I WILL NOT run carddraw
I WILL see only 15% of my deck per match
I WILL topdeck every game
I WILL play basically a different deck each match
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>>80439834
Dont ever humanize them again.
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>>80439851
It's a garbage deck but if you cut the three most expensive cards it can be YOUR garbage deck for like $150
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/power-attack-for-full/?cat=tcg_avg_price&sort=name&cb=1626285378

>>80439857
Heart of the cards! Hell yeah.
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>>80439857
The P.O.O.R. pledge
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>>80439722
>Almost any other topic, including someone posting literal futa porn, everyone is civil about
I'm a futafag myself but seeing it posted in non porn threads honestly annoys me
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>>80439886
Well yeah, if you genuinely like something seeing it used as bait is annoying
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>>80439722
>It can’t be just one shitposter.
it is
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>fools buying out elves
>real niggas switching to merfolk
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>>80439925
what the fuck is happening with elves and why is my 50$ budget elf deck suddenly 200$?
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>>80439934
I imagine some retard on a payed subscription sight said
>elves good
And everyone fell for it
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>>80439934
Elves have always been a popular tribe prone to buyouts and mass demand, Lathril has been in the top 10 most constructed commanders for months, and D&D set means elves and elf speculation.
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>>80439904
It's more about self control. I enjoy some non normal fetishes but I keep it to myself unless among others who are equally degenerate about it.
>>80439934
I think its lathril but not sure, I know the gaea's cradle elf in the d&d set might is a factor too
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>shirei only cool monoblack commander
>killed on sight
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>>80436360
I want Valki in Prosper. Prosper just starts storming off after a couple of turns. The fact that you can play a land from exile and get a treasure is nuts IMO and the new card Fevered Suspicion is probably one of my favorite magic cards of all time now.
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>>80439965
Reasonable. I'll post a bit of Ink-Eyes in the thread from time to time when it comes up but that's usually late night shitposting rather than when the thread is actually active. I agree it's usually best to hide power level.
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>>80439749
bring some sinks
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>>80439994
If you're playing EDH in 2021, you better have a commander with self-protection, or a commander that generates generic value/card draw. Specific strategy commanders are completely useless with how much removal the average table has nowadays. Basically, just play Golos.
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>>80439994
He would be so much better if he didn't had the end of turn restriction.
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>>80440024
Or you know, learn how to play the game and watch for/make openings.
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Is Liesa good for lifegain and taxes or should I just suck it up and play Oloro?
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>>80440024
If you don't have draw in the CZ, how many draw cards should one run? I average 8-10 but I still end up topdecking often.
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>>80440065
Neither of those commanders have self protection or generate generic value/draw. Not even worth thinking about desu
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>>80440065
I look at liesa as bad kambal for lifegain
Kambal comes out a lot earlier, and his trigger gains you life without having to attack like liesa
The draw back is having an old hitler in the command zone over hot slutty mexican gf angel
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>>80439994
Shirei is a lieutenant. Play a legend with value stapled onto it and play A basic entomb-Reanimator package to tutor and recur him.
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>>80440092
why is she so much more popular than him? dealing 2 damage for every spell cast as opposed to noncreatures?
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>>80440072
Not him, but the ugly truth is, even with the right amount, there will always be top decking without card draw in the command zone.
Even with 20 card draw options (which would mean a significant amount of shitty ones) theres no guarantee you get any of those 20 cards, because you only draw 10 cards naturally in the first 3 turns of the game
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>>80439994
Run stuff like Malakir Rebirth, Rush of Vitality, Supernatural Stamina, Undying Evil, and Without Weakness. You have to plan for him being removed with such a commander centric strategy.
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>>80440115
Hits every spell, better for dealing commander damage, people go buckwild for angels. Also coming in a precon rather than just being a random legendary from 5 years ago.
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>>80440072
>but I still end up topdecking often.
Most of the time, this is caused by the other cards in your deck being value negative and not about having enough card draw.
8-10 draw sources is fine. Hope at least 1-2 is repeatable in some way.
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>>80440115
I would imagine 4 things
1. Hes not hot
2. She came out around the same time a lot of orzohv angel support was being spoiled in kangheim
3. Angel's are a super popular creature type, and shes one of the biggest names in the lore
4. What you said
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>>80440130
*swords to plowshares you*
You're now out of the game because the commander costs seven mana. The only way to play commander-centric strategies nowadays is to make them hexproof the same turn they come down. It really hurts because i love commander-centric decks, but going against generic value commanders is just a completely uphill battle
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>>80435741
>TQ
Well, i need to finish my Orzhov-themed commander, so... return to return to Ravnica, i think.
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>>80440191
>He wants a 4th Teysa
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>>80440180
Heh, sorry, but it looks like you could gain life more than I do
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>>80440180
Eh, in Mono B I'm not too worried about it. You're not wrong in general, but I play Shirei myself, hence my recommendations. Recasting him once or twice has not been a huge issue for me.
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>>80440180
>tfw commander is uncounterable, hexproof, and has flash
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>>80440216
Nah, just orzhov cards in general. BW is quite limited when you're not trying to break the theme. And very expensive as well; a new reprint for Dark Confidant/smothering tithe would help.
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>>80439722
Its 1 anon. Anyone impersonating the one anon does it so well you could say they are possessed of Anon's animus looping it back to being 1 anon.
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Give me your thoughts on this card.
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>>80440272
Bob was literally just reprinted last year.
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>>80440216
I mean don't we need a final season? OG ravnica was spring, return was summer, and return of the return was autumn. Winter ravnica
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Ok, now what.
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>>80440291
a noob trap
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>>80440291
If you have 5 mana to throw away on it you probably didn't need it. Wotc has a weird obsession with Kruphix for some reason.
>its simic
I know but all the cards just do the same storage of mana instead of draw card and ramp. There's gotta be something more going on.
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>>80440301
Now the fun begins.
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>>80440292
Well, they made a luxury version of him on a premium product, that doesn't do much for it's price.
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>>80440291
You need to be doing some platinum horseshit to have enough mana to cast this card that does nothing to the boardstate, purely to hoard mana later in a way that requires a slush fund over multiple turns. You can't be in green or you'd use Omnath/Kruphix, so it's questionable how you're getting that much mana but not enough at once to do your nonsense.

Too narrow. Worse than a reliable infinite.
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>>80440301
Some of the gods disappearing into the ground at the thighs and some of them not doing that is really fucky. I'd rather a Nylea.
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>>80440291
Not for me. there's no reason for me to stock up mana in my decks since I play on curve
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>>80440324
There was also a normal reprint in there, doofus.
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>>80440298
Honestly a snowy Ravnica sounds pretty fucking sick.
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>>80440338
Purphoros must really fuck you up since he goes in at the waist.
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>>80440291
imagine if this was 3cmc but you were affected by mana burn
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>>80440291
Good for gifting away in yurlok
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>Bros stop bullying me
>My Golas gates deck is only halfway close to winning
How do you respond?
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>>80440370
Okay but can it have shroud or hexproof or ward or something?
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>>80440157
>shes one of the biggest names in the lore
nah
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>>80440370
Amazing, you actually made it more useless.
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>>80440370
2 cmc and the mana doubles on upkeep
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>>80440352
could be cool.
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Is that a… a human with pointy ears…? oh god, it is… it’s an ELF
MUST BUY MUST BUY ELFBALL GOOD OH GOOOOOOD IM BUUUUUUUYYYYIIINNNG UHHHHHHHH TRIBAL IS THE BEST MUST SPECULATE IM GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE $2 ON THESE ELVES IM BUUUUUYING THE ENTIRE STOCK ELVES ELVES ELVES HUMANS WITH POINTY EARS
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>>80440291
Seems pretty good in og Kruphix
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>>80440338
What the fuck is Nylea hunting exactly? All she ever does is hold a bow but the bitch is taller than every other living thing on Theros.
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>>80440434
She a dick trapper
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>>80440434
>What the fuck is Nylea hunting exactly?
My semen
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>>80440350
>normal
just look at the art, that's definitely not an orzhov card... not on that version, at least. I'd like to say that this reprint at least made a difference on the prices, but not really. I think i will stay with keen duelist for now... which is arguably better, since it makes allies and finishes enemies.
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>>80440417
Based.
I hate the antichrist.
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>>80440434
>Doesn't have reach
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>>80440441
>>80440442
>she can stomp on your balls with her gigantic fucking hooves
Brehs....
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>>80440434
>there goes Nylea again. Just running around with her bow out..
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>>80440434
>>80440477
She's pointing her bow into the blind eternities to yeet eldrazi that dare look in theros' direction.
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>>80440434
>>80440477
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>>80440434
Judging from the angle, some sort of space creature.
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>>80440434
A big fuckoff bird. Has to get the fletching from somewhere.
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>>80440477
>tfw too much a manlet to reach her pussy
Bros...
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What does /edhg/ think of Sygg?
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>Elves are expensive
where the fuck are you retards looking the only elves I see over $10 is a whopping 4. are you literally too poor to afford the paper to proxy?
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>>80440524
Its repurposed merkin. Grecians used hair for tampons.
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>>80440530
>BRING OUT THE DIVINE DILDO
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>>80440531
There are better rogues as commander
I respect anyone who goes for it though
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WOTC has no idea what to do with this character
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>>80440539
Its someone that shitposts about finance every chance they can like we care. He's hoping you'll suggest proxies so he can rage out about proxies.
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>>80440531
I was tempted to build him when I was making "shit left over in my rare binder tribal". Ended up with Wrexial instead but I'm still strongly tempted to pivot. He seems like a fun lower-power version of Yuriko.
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>>80439851
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/U9k1DgSOwEWErxRocxYNOA
me and some friends tried making actual poverty decks
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>>80440449
The Double Masters full-art is definitely not Orzhov either. Doesn't have any of their iconography or visual tells.
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>>80440568
Them fucking up the Bow proves this. It was supposed to be the 4 seasons but it doesn't work quite right.
They don't need to do anything with her, the god of the hunt is sort of timeless and doesn't need to be fiddled with.
Tangentially, Vivian took her design space as soon as she showed up.
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>>80440576
>He's hoping you'll suggest proxies so he can rage out about proxies.
pretty sure I have him filtered out
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>>80440568
I think they're just bad with archers in general

At least they haven't gone full Fate and just moved to swords
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>>80440473
Nylea has human feet, not hooves.
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>>80440596
How was this not deemed racist? Would a Teferi shucking and jiving pass their muster also?
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>>80440606
>>80440576
Meds takey
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>>80440632
Nobody cares about being racist towards guidos
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>>80440639
Well now we know its you.
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>>80440596
I mean... he is dressing in gold and black, and looks rich as fuck.
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>>80440658
Clearly you didnt listen
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>>80440608
vivian is literally garruk and kaya mashed together.

>>80440657
Asian confidants/eunuchs are a meme that has persisted for hundreds of years. Yellow and black are also the overriding colors of this image. Its a thing.
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>>80440421
Seethe
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>>80440657
Look up what an eunuch is.
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>>80440539
>its only 40-50 dollars for 4/100ths of a deck, what are you, POOR? YOU DONT WANT TO PAY FOR CHILD CARDBOARD?
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>>80440779
Wait are you actually poor?
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>>80440382
Rape.
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>>80440797
Shut up.
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>>80440850
Being poor is shameful but being rude is evil. Work on yourself.
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>>80439722
>It can’t be just one shitposter
My sweet summer child
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Hey bros I'm building Abzan +1/+1 counters, any zesty, lesser-known spice I should know about?
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>>80435741
>TQ
Lord of the Rings, more The Walking Dead, Invincible, Futurama, Rick and Morty, Eragon, Game of Thrones, Disney and the MCU
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>>80440955
>Lord of the Rings
>Game of Thrones
BASED
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>>80440639
>>80440779
autism incarnate. control yourself
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>>80440949
>Junk +1/+1
Yawn
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>>80440949
Anything that moves counters around or requires counters as a cost will get restored and then some. Gets out of hand really fast in Ghave or Tayam.
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>>80440949
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>>80441012
>/edhg/ laughing at r/edh
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>>80441007
Well I want to build an Abzan deck, sell me on a different deck in those colors then
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>>80440949
animation module and aetherborn marauder
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>>80441055
pretty sure this is closer
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>>80441055
kek same vibes
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>>80441063
There's barely any, junk legendaries kind of suck ass like that. I'm going for one last shot at it before I give up on junk until there's something fresh.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/R-en_2ne5UuYXsLeKNJlYg
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>>80441078
not even close. reddit has entire boards dedicated to cataloging and explaining 4chan to normals. 4chan just laughs at reddit. There is no equivalency.
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>>80441078
Only someone from reddit would think this.
Incidentally "stop arguing with your self" is one of the go to defensive reactions of the shitposter.
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>>80441105
18-35 year old western caucasian english-speaking males who primarily socialize online

my dude you are arguing the difference between vanilla bean and french vanilla flavored ice creams
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>>80441078
reddit has 4chan subreddits. 4chan doesn't have reddit boards.
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>>80441083
similar energy
>>80441140
>4chan doesn't have reddit boards.
/r9k/ is dangerously close since its full of friendless losers
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>>80441129
False equivalence. Anonymity is not irrelevant.
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>>80441129
You have to go back.
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>>80441165
That's a fair point, actually. Reddit's primary issue really does come down to have accounts "keep score" with a firm continuity of identity.
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>>80441164
/r9k/ are robots, wizards, virgins. The gimmick on /r9k/ is supposed to simulate permavirgins thinking the world ends on the whim of a single social fuckup.
Wizardchan is closer to /r9k/. You'll notice its called wizardchan not wizardreddit.
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new thread, migrate whenever
>>80441213
>>80441213
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>>80441210
And 4chan came to wizardchan's defense when reddit tried to fuck with them. 4chan has warred with reddit for a while but never on the same side as reddit.
Trying to say they are the same is some peak reddit faggotry trying to be "cool" and fit in.
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>>80440949
You're welcome
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>>80441210
Its always weird seeing someone explain the nuance to someone too stupid to understand that there even is nuance.
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>>80441181
It's the entire point. There is no 'we'. I (I AM) the one calling you & others a faggot. That 'I' is dead once the post gets past the captcha. I can take everything on from that point or cast it aside with equal ease.
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>>80441310
There most certainly is a we. Only people that are new think its weird when anon will speak for all anons.
When something is solidly established as part of the culture you can safely make statements about the group.
We value anonymity. We value bants. We value original content. We like japanese culture.
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>>80441366
Wrong. You're a faggot. I'm not associated with you. You're assuming. As am I, to a lesser extent, because there's very little chance that you're NOT a humongous faggot.
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>>80440338
It's supposed to be clouds/fog to illustrate how fuckheug they are
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>>80441404
He's right on all counts newfag. Dubs make his post irrefutable you'd get that if you were really anon.
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>>80441417
Prove it faggot. A collection of individuals does not a we make.
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>>80441434
>prove it
Notice the repeating integers on his post number. Learn the culture outsider.
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>>80441446
Ok champ.
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>>80441483
I accept your concession.
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what ramp am I even supposed to play in Orzhov
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>>80440291
I swear to FUCKING GOD Kruphix is like, part Eldrazi and doesn't know it.
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>>80441446
AHHHH HECKING DUBSARINO
I've been here since 2007 and "you have to agree with my opinion because of gets" was run into the ground a good decade ago by faggot posters derailing 50% of threads whenever someone at all got dubs
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>>80441417
God this post REEKS of newfag
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>>80441244
This shit is bangin in Greven as well
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>>80440291
It's neat but it's actual uses are limited.
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New bread
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80443988
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Freshly baked bread

>>80443988
>>80443988
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>>80443994
Anon . . .



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