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Samefags of Tzeentch edition

Threadly Quote ~
"Whether our action is wholesome or unwholesome depends on whether that action or deed arises from a disciplined or undisciplined state of mind." - Dalai Lama XIV

Threadly Question ~
Seeing that Tzeentch consistently wins, "Who is your favorite Chaos God?", why is Tzeentch your favorite?

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Previous battle: >>79705763
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Right, so what are you guys working on? Any ongoing campaigns or planned proyects?
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>>79719728
Painting up my chaos warriors, started conversion for another chaos lord/exalted champ. A nuirgle variation of hortense.
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>TQ
I like the color blue and it's derivatives, I like the concept of a capricious God giving his most devout followers magic powers, I really like chaos in general and the Chosen class in Warhammer Online is fun.
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>>79719739
Unit of chaos warriors so far, 7/16 are painted, 4 are currently halfway done.
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What should I add from here? Apart from more trolls?

+ Heroes +
Throgg [195pts]: The Wintertooth Crown

+ Core +
Chaos Warhounds [40pts]
. 5x Chaos Warhound: Vanguard special ruleq

Chaos Warhounds [40pts]
. 5x Chaos Warhound: Vanguard special rule

Throgg's Chaos Trolls [228pts]
. 6x Chaos Troll: Additional hand weapons

Throgg's Chaos Trolls [228pts]
. 6x Chaos Troll: Additional hand weapons

+ Special +
Dragon Ogres [189pts]
. 3x Dragon Ogre: Additional hand weapons

+ Rare +
Chaos Spawn [60pts]: Spawn of Slaanesh

++ Total: [980pts] ++
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LETS GET READY TO RUUUUUUMBLE!
Dip-Off! Friday the 18th at 7:00pm, Americain time. Voting beings at 07:20pm and ends at 07:40pm. Participants may enter one miniature to see if they have what it takes to beat the dreaded Dip-meister.
Dip dip dip motherfuckers.
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>>79719779
Which edition is this for?
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>>79719793
Let's say 8th for now
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>>79719783
Just remember that the retard who started all this stole the pictures he claimed to be his own.
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>>79719793
Clearly 8th.

>>79719779
A chimera cant hurt. Also maybe make the spawn of tzeench for the breath weapon.
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>>79719783
How will the voting be conducted? Are there restrictions on the models that can be submitted? What does dipping have to do with this?
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>>79719728
Due to the ongoing spraydrought I'm forced to paint my Black Orcs rather than the WoC stuff I had planned.
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>>79719812
>How will the voting be conducted?
Threadly acclaim.
>Are there restrictions on the models that can be submitted?
no
>What does dipping have to do with this?
This was started by someone larping as a five 13 year old and another poster asking if he had dipped his minis instead of painting. The larper had a shitfit. Of course, those later turned out to be stolen photos, but whatever.
>>79711474 The original

>>79718595 The source of the photos
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>>79719739
Now this sounds interesting. How are you planning to convert and equip yours?
Here's my own Nurgle BSB take which is equipped with Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, a Halberd, Daemonic Mount with Barding, Soul Feeder and Nurgle's Rot.
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>>79719783
When you say American Time... that's EST, right? We better not have any Californians or anything here.
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>>79719851
Barded mount, glittering scales, scaled skin and shield for a 1+ save.

Beyond that either just the dawnstone if its a hero (1+ rerollable hit on 6's 90% of the time t5w3) or maybe sword of striking or something.

The lord version will probably have talisman of preservation and sword of anti heroes instead.
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>>79719783
NYPA
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>>79719779
How many points are you planning?
The obvious things missing are some kind of Sorcerer, a BSB and chimera(s). I'd also include atleast one giant for a proper monstrous horde feel. You could also consider some Gorebeast Chariots, allthough they're likely to be left behind unless you put them on flank guarding duty.
As for the Sorcerer your best thematic choice would be a DP although a Sorcerer Lord mounted on a Dragon or Daemonic Mount would also be fluffy as would a converted monstrosity that counts as using a Disc of Tzeentch. Another way to go about it is to put a Slaaneshi Sorcerer Lord mounted on a Steed of Slaanesh in a unit of Hellstriders. Bonus points if this unit is converted into some kind of weirf snake-monsters or something. For the BSB I'd go with a Daemonic Mount.
What's the reason for the Spawn of Slaanesh?
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>tfw no khorne gf to beat the shit out of me and spit in my face
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>>79720015
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>>79719892
The problem I forsee with that hero-build is that it would be extremely vulnerable to cannons.
I do like the sound of the lord version though.
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>>79719728
Making some more poses for my archers and painting up the spearmen I've printed
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>>79720057
That artist made more pictures...
Medusa would be different, with medusa you would probably need to be some kind of dark elf of renown and win the favour of both Atharti and Hekarti and to turn your waifu back into a sorceress.
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>>79720072
>it would be extremely vulnerable to cannons
To be fair, what isnt?
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>>79720079
thin your graphics
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>>79720101
I'll tick the transparent option next time, will that be thin enough for you? The other option is I make it only lines for maximum thin
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>>79720090
Hortennse.
The charmed shield + Talisman of Preservation combo in my version is also atleast somewhat secure from cannons.
You could also put the lord/hero on a ordinary chaos steed and put it in a bunker of Chaos Knights to safeguard it against cannons. Granted that is a tremendous point-investment in a single unit.
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>>79720146
Yea, the lord is fine on a regular horse, but the exalted hero really wants the steed for the t5 w3.
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>vampire with fear incarnate
>wight king with banner of barrows
>grave guard with great weapons and screaming banner
>>corpse cart ASF
>>bat swarm ASL
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>>79719779
I recommend the base of your list look like this-

+ Heroes +
Throgg [195pts]: The Wintertooth Crown

+ Core +

Throgg's Chaos Trolls [266pts]
. 7x Chaos Troll: Additional hand weapons

Throgg's Chaos Trolls [114pts]
. 3x Chaos Troll: Additional hand weapons

Throgg's Chaos Trolls [114pts]
. 3x Chaos Troll: Additional hand weapons

++ Total: [689pts] ++

Have Throgg deployed in the unit of 7x and have the unit deployed in two ranks of four. The unit size will provide Throgg with "Look out Sire!" and have the extra bodies needed to soak up ranged attacks.
At a 1000 points I recommend having one or two units of trolls at their minimum size, three. I put two down as I assumed you wanted as many trolls as possible. They'll make great flankers and prevent charges for your big unit of eight, they might stay unscathed too if you're lucky as your opponent will likely focus on the unit containing Throgg.

That leaves you left with 311pts
But I'd encourage you to have a core of 7 trolls with one or two units of 3.

Good luck.
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>>79720154
Fo' sho'.
>>79720183
NTA but wouldn't units of 4 trolls without additional hand weapons ranked 2x2 be much better? They wouldn't cost that much more and they would have a little bit of extra dmg aswell as a smaller footprint meaning they would take less dmg.
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>>79719800
This is literally the same retard you have replied to anon. He was samefagging for quite a while there and arrange a competition with himself. Don't get drawn into his shitposting.
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>>79720177
Nice theory hammer anon
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>>79720079
Nice anon, your faces are quite good.
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>>79720079
What's your approach for printing?
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>>79719728
More (slow) work on my tilean dwarf hold.

Just slowly going through my first batch of used plastic backlog.

Once that is done I'll do my used metal backlog

Then my new untouched metal backlog
Then untouched plastic backlog
Then the hundreds of miniatures I painted in my first 12 years of the hobby and that look like shit.

Then (in about 20 years) I'll perhaps but something new to work on
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>>79720324
i mean everything but the bats (which you don't actually need, or want) is easy. get your little GG deathball, get the corpse cart behind them like it should be, have the vamp start casting his augments, and it's really at full power

bats aren't needed- and frankly neither is the corpse cart- cause all you care about is the damage. you can lose a heavy amount of GG before it impacts your damage and even then, just nehek and you're fine.
there's a reason corpse carts don't get used all that much, their uses are pretty limited outside of denying elven rerolls. similarly, ASL isn't all that useful from bats since you, for the most part, don't really mind the striking order
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>>79720259
I don't care if he was a troll or not, I'm still going to enter. We haven't done anything this fun in ages. If you wanna pout go and not submit anything go for it. I look forward to making a submission however.
>>79720293
Deployed like that you'd be reducing their attack output, and they wouldn't be any safer from ranged attacks. For troll or ogre sized units the optimal sizes are-
>1x3
>1x4
>2x4
Also for units that are 2x4 it's common for them to be seven models from the unit with a hero or lord attached.
People have messed with other deployment sizes, like 2x3 or 5x2, but I've found majority of the time it's just not optimal.
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Yeah so I've just erased most of my sanity getting the nu-Chaos Knights to rank up.
Which ever person at GW replaced the kite shields with these stupid giant codpieces needs to be fucking crucified at the side of the road.
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>>79720487
you could have swapped them for different shields surely
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>>79720487
huh. Maybe anon was onto something about squares and rectangles being dumb.
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>>79720487
The old knights dont rank up either, dont worry about it.
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>>79720536
>it is critical we maintain using the bases of our ancestors to maintain the purity of the game!
Yet the bases can't even fit the models made for them. Weird.
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>>79720520
Not with the way the models are put together no.
>>79720536
They fucking rank up better than this.
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>>79720593
The picture I posted? Yes, they can fit better than that, thats just a group photo.

They do not however actually rank up, not without special consideration and basing. In other words, the same situation as the new knights.
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>>79720536
..I'm phoneposting, so I can't give you an image, but can't you just cut a bit of foam out to pop the bases into, then cast a tray out of molding plastic?
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>>79720536
>posts front shot of minis with spaces bwtween them
>proof that they don't rank up
Boyyyyy
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>>79720643
Thats not proof, thats just an image of my knights that I know from experience do not rank up properly,

>>79720632
probably?
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>>79720536
>"Tee hee, why haven't you taken the round pill anon?!"
>"Your models would look so much better if they were on rounds!"
>"Why's the knight just hanging off like that?"
>"I thought the point of squares was for them to rank up, tee hee!"
>"Just make a movement tray anon!"
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>>79720708
Silence, infidel. Only those of the holy Oval Base may speak in this thread, lest the dark powers of the pentagon base come to claim us.
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>>79720667
>probably?

What I'm asking is, do you use a tray, or do you just touch them with your filthy, filthy hands?
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>>79720759
>do you use a tray,
yes
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Alright anons, there can only be one-
projecting incest/rape fetishist, or
beastmen eroticist?
You decide!
https://www.strawpoll.me/45381259
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>>79720136
I'm memeing
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why do warhammer generals always attract autistic baitposters?
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The more I think about it the more I actually would be keen on a warmaster release of ToW
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>>79720870
I don't know, ask him >>79720883
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>>79720870
Warhammer is popular, but WFB of all the Warhammers is the least active as a hobby, so it attracts shitposting and autism since there's not much else to talk about. Sort of like how 40kg is mostly screeching about new lore rather than hobbying.
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>When you realize it's mosty one guy baiting, answearing his own bait, counter replying and arguing with himself and if no one joins he starts all over again with new one.
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>>79720923
>When this post was made so that one guy could answer himself and continue the cycle.
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>>79720923
Fucking Tzeentch Fags, am I right?
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>>79720870
Because Warhammer fans aren't very different from TTRPG fans
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This may be a retarded question but in 4th and 5th edition, since swarms come under the monster section of the army, can a character ride a swarm into battle? For example, could I have a Skaven character sit on a palanquin atop a swarm of rats?
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>>79720923
Time for the penguin
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>>79721021
Regardless if you can or can't, that's a cool model idea and you should make it anon.
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>>79721114
Why don't YOU make it if it's so cool?
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>>79721021
I can't find any rule that says you can't, but it's just too dumb to be possible.
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>>79721021
I'm not familiar enough with either edition to say. But you can check the swarm rules, and there may have been some published errata to clarify the situation, like how in 6th an errata clarified a Bret Lord on a Pegasus couldn't join with a unit.

But either way, >>79721114 is correct. If you have to say it counts as a giant rat to make it work, fuck it.
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>>79721085
Is that what your "uncle" says to you when he means anal sex?
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>>79721246
I found a collection of 4th/5th FAQ's and it's not mentioned in them.
I think it would look cool for a small clan moulder mercenary band I was thinking of making that I can use as allies in a campaign and I don't think anyone would have a problem with it so I think I'll try it. Models for sorcerers atop a nurgling swarm palanquin exist after all.
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>>79721224
Because I don't play Skaven, and I'm already trying to figure out how to convert a Black dragon into Galrauch.
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>>79720995
People complain about it, but a part of me feels they really just like having something to bitch about as to why they respond to low quality post in general, be it a troll, newfag, or secondary. People like having drama on here.
>>79721021
Well, with it being RAW only Characters with the rule MAY RIDE are entitled to riding a monster, that being the Skaven Warlord and Warlock/Seer.
MAY RIDE as written reads-
>...may ride a monster (see the seperate Monster Lists for points).
And under the Monster Lists rat swarms are listed, and if we're going to 5e's rules for the sake of simplicity-
>If a "mount" has 2 or more wounds then it is classed as a 'monster' and the following rules are used for riders and mounts.
I'd be cool with it, especially if it looked bitching, ignore this no fun fag >>79721234
>>79721349
>Models for sorcerers atop a nurgling swarm palanquin exist after all.
They're not represented in 5e I believe though. Pretty sure they were phased out and Beast of Nurgle became the defacto ridden unit.
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>>79721325
You're in 1st place anon, keep it up to be the most hated shitposter.
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Anyone ever got Mantic orcs or goblins? They have a new goblin kit that looks alright.

Only thing Gw have is savage orcs and night goblins. Need to get my plastic on
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>>79721416
Those look so much better than the original WhFb plastics. Order them and post your results.
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>>79721395
Where am I at? (Penguin poster)
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>>79721349
Sounds like then the hardest part will be figuring out the kitbash my dude.
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>>79721445
You lost, sorry bud. Final two are the projecting incest/rape fetishist and the beastmen eroticist. It’s a tie breaker.
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>>79721435
I didn't think much of them but the new goblins look pretty good, they even have a not shit paintjob on the website.
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>>79721470
Shit, just can't compete with the absolute masters of autistic shit posting.
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>>79721416
Shieldwolf minis got some plastic "forest" goblins. They are pretty nice.
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>>79721514
>>79721470
>>79721445
>>79721395
Do you really believe anyone would fall for that, you inbred samefag?
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>>79720486
>Deployed like that you'd be reducing their attack output
No you wouldn't. While granted I neglected to consider the additional hand weapon of the third troll if placed 1x3 that ends up giving them the same output as the 2x2 without additional hand weapons (i.e 12 attack) but the latter gets an extra vomit attack.
While writing I now realised that I also neglected the stomp attacks of the trolls which would indeed give the advantage to the 1x3 set up if we're not talking vomit attacks. With that in mind I do see how 1x3 could be argued to be the better formation for them.
>and they wouldn't be any safer from ranged attacks.
True but I don't really think that trolls would be the primary target for ranged attacks anyway. Granted I'm not accustomed to facing off against armies with poisoned/flaming ranged attacks which might make a difference. That being said I was refering to close combat in my previous comment.
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>>79721540
No, but I thought you would you complete schizo. Stop replying to yourself.
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>>79721416
If it's orcs you want I'd rather go with momminiatures' than mantics. Granted the former are resin and not plastic.
Then again I personally trawled some auction sites for a time until I found myself a sufficient quantity of the older (I believe 6th edition) orcs. I haven't checked in a while but I reckon you could still find the odd orc regiment for a decent price.
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>>79721641
Honestly I’m kind of annoyed. My edits got far less prestige than some fucking retards who spent the last three days saying, “i HoPe YoU gEt RaPeD!”, “How big was your uncles cock heh heh heh...” *licks-lips*, etc. because of how butthurt they were over my edits-
But I guess that goes to show /wfg/ really does appreciate my comedic genius while hating those plebbit tier fags.
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>>79720883

Have you thought about it long enough to realise that you can print a Warmaster army today and that with free rules, third party sculptors and no secondary retards, a new release will go downhill in every way other than attracting zoomer players?
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>>79721729
I hope you get raped by your big tiddy futa aunt schizo faggot.
>>79721783
Do zoomers even like minis that small?
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>>79721869
No grandad.
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>>79720487
Ok, I've got them ranked up. I'm going to get a rock to put on the base of the guy on the left to make sure he stops falling over.
Man you would have thought they were made for a different game system or something.
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>>79721923
What in the god’s names-
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>>79721991
The camera makes it look way worse.
But yeah, fuck these models. I'm not getting the SC box again.
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beginning to paint my banner of spookiness, does the concept work?
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>>79722052
>I'm not getting the SC box again.
why on earth would you? it's a terrible deal for WFB, you can get a box of 16 chaos warriors and 10 knights, both of whom have the actual fb chaos aesthetic, for only slightly more
what would you even do with the lord? a fuckoff hueg daemonic steed?

i like the models in it but it's really not a very good choice for making a fb army by nearly any measurement

>>79721923
you might be better served to play around with how they rank up together, certain onces fit better right next to the others to the point they don't spill over, especially if you bend (or better yet, replace) the dumb shields
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>>79722057
I'd say yes, though I feel like it has a more "medieval people consider this spooky" vibe. But its still neat
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>>79722052
Ye don't be tempted. Some of the Sc boxes might be good but others are just 'If I spend an extra 30 I got these other models I don't need or want but will justify somehow'
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>>79719728
Got some Dire Wolves for my birthday. My older ones are black, so I consider a white pattern for these ones.
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>>79722166
>>79722281
I got the start collecting box because I liked most of the models and I wanted to test out who well they could rank up (the warriors rank up alright). I'm going to take the Lord off of his lizard thing and put him on a juggernaut.
I've taken one of the knights off his base and I'm reworking him to make it look better on the base.

After this I'm going to make some heresy stuff so I don't have to look at squares and I'm only going to get the regular knights from now on, these aren't worth this much fucking heart ache.
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>>79722316
>Buying from GW
Gross. Imagine. Harem. Post models secondary.
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>>79719576
GW!
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>>79722057
I like it, though while it's still black it kind of reminds me of a pirate flag. Other guy is also right on the medieval feel, but I like the idea of going that route.
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>>79720749
Ovals are shit.
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Converted lord alongside an exalted hero on demonic steed.


Dude is tall. but hes not so much big as it being the pose.

Overall I think he turned out neat.
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>>79722890
Hes on a 25x50 for now, but ill make a 50x50 onto which he can slot in case I want to rebase him.
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>>79722411
>GW said we needed to have bears of burden
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>>79722890
>>79722910
Wrong thread buddy
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>>79719728
Started another build, a champion mounted on a chaos steed (from Knightmare). Let's see how he develops, I'll probably make a back banner for him too.
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>>79722411
>GW flanderised it
Warhammer the Old World is gonna be AoS tier stupid
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>>79723059
but will there be beastmen rape?
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>>79722411
The light war sled should have horses, and the heavy sled should have the bears.
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>>79723059
Nah, it's just gonna be WoW retarded. We even have beastmen ready to get our own goat futas.
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>>79723173
Sounds good.
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>>79723028
We are unworthy of your greatness anon. God he’s so beautiful. How did you do the spinal portion king?
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>>79723028
Hideous, but thats probably the point.
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>>79722057
Spoopy/10
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Does that Skaven warcry kit and rat ogres giant rat kit make sense for mordheim?
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>>79724181
Sure? The warcry skaven kit is just the old rat ogres and some clanrats isnt it?
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>>79722890
>>79722910
That's pretty gosh darn neat, anon. Nice take on the classic nurgle daemonic mount.
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>>79724207
Thanks. He even ranks up with knights nicely, which is an unexpected but pleasant surprise.
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>>79723028
I'm almost kinda mad at how great your sculpting skills are, buddy. I most definitely look forward to seeing it develope into a finished piece. Keep us posted!
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>>79724238
That sure is a nice surprise!
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Empire has the best aesthetics.
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>>79724203
I think I meant the underworlds one
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>>79724460
No argument about that.
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>>79724460
Wait until you see the kroxigors
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>>79724482
Oh. The models are nice, but its like 5? of them, and I dont think you get much in the way of variety.

That + the IoB rat ogres + gutter runners(?) might be good though.
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>>79724460
Empire arent even top half in terms of aesthetics.
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>>79724521
I can't hear you over my not Holy Roman Empire and Landschnekts.
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>>79724541
Must be puffier
Must be gayer
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>>79721923
honestly, just let them fill two bases and have them count for 2 models each
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>>79721923
I think you did that wrong. Ive seen them ranked up on cav bases much neater, and without the champion hanging off the side.
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>>79724460
Lol, yeah right. Bretonnian peasantry has got ya beat.
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>>79724541
>two trash tier aesthetics
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>>79724638
>Ive seen them ranked up on cav bases much neater
No you haven’t. Post an example or fuck off.
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>>79724760
>No you haven’t.
I have, but let me go find one or two random images I saw over the duration of that kit being out because some guy online is convinced its impossible to do better than him
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>>79723618
>How did you do the spinal portion
it's just a long piece of GS that I then made to look like the spine by separating the sections and further sculpting them
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>>79724782
>aka I haven’t
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>>79724782
Heres the first thing I found with as much googling as I can be bothered to do.
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>>79724676
name better ones then
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>>79720338
Thanks anon

>>79720410
Like how do I orient and support them? Well I haven't tried printing this one yet, but usually lean the backwards about 30° and rotate them to give the clearest access to any areas that need to be supported

>>79720774
I figured, tone is hard through text alone but I was laughing
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>>79724905
Death metal vikings, aztec lizards riding dinosaurs, melniboneans. atlantean elves, egyptian undead...
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>>79724925
What printer do you use? Or do you commission it from some printing service? How expensive is it to get acceptable resolution at 28mm scale?
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>>79724638
Yeah I've redon the champion to make the unit look better.
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>>79725000
Rape beasts?
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What's going on in Estalia that they need such a massive organization to rout out hesery? Despite being much smaller than the Empire, they got just as many, if not more, of these guys running around.
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>>79725042
I have an anycubic photon with a dual z rail mod, all up it cost me around $500 dollarydoos. I know you can get decent quality through shapeways but I couldn't say how well priced they are compared to other options
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>>79726300
Myrmydians tend to get extreme. Especially when those Tilean heretics live next door.
Also rats. Lots of rats.
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>>79724460
It's a little surreal how the Empire can be so insane and over the top in concept art, but once you get to the miniatures it's pretty uniform and toned down.
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>>79722316
Looking good anon, care to flip him to show the other side? How do you find these wolves?
Also, happy birthday, remember to praise Sigmar :)
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>>79726377
I always thought Myrmidians would be more level headed, being all about thinking your battles through. But what would I know, I'm just a lowly Ostland bull wrangler.
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>>79722316
Looking mighty fine, thoug he looks more like wounded wolf rather than dead one. Nice paintjob nevertheless.
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>>79724872
>bases can’t even sit next together flat
>minis knocking into one another
Wow, great example anon, at least he can say his bases fit together even though the models are leaping off them >>79721923
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>>79726950
Except for the small gaps between them you mean? the sort that would make them not sit flat if you push them flush?
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>>79726795
You can be very level headed, with tactical and strategic mind, while also being bat-shit insane extremist. See hussites.
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>>79726300
Hard to keep social order when you get reamed on the regular.
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>>79726989
Are you retarded?
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>>79727120
Are you?
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>>79719728
Waiting for my Empire kits to come in as I keep procrastinating on my elves with Ghost Archipelago.
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I redid the champion so he didn't jump out to the side as much (but the camera made it look way worse than it was). The rock is to keep the base balanced.
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>>79727279
You need to come to terms with the fact you’re being impeded by the square and rectangle obsession. It still looks ridiculous anon.
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>>79727279
either use magnets and a movement tray or use bigger bases, chaos knights are massive and deserve bigger bases anyways
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>>79727753
This. Even the actual "Warhammer Fantasy battle approved" ones barely fit on a 25x50, and good luck having them rank up.

They should be on 30x60s minimum.
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>>79728457
Maybe TOW will size up bases for most units.
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>>79728484
I'm honestly expecting it. I have a feeling the game will have a lower model count on larger bases, and a bigger focus on monsters and other expensive kits. That seems to be GW's MO these days, and we all know pushing 40+ infantry models per unit did not work out well.
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>>79728457
>They should be on 30x60s minimum.
That’ll mess up there presence and put base purist on suicide watch though. Squares and rectangles are just dumb. The games isn’t equipped to support larger scale models.
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>>79728564
Dead game though, just get your opponents permission, I'd be fine with it. I play to have cool armies clash against each other, not rule lawyer my opponent to death.
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I'm currently working on a mineshaft and would like to create more related terrain pieces. The end goal is to be able to have enough stuff
to play a match taking place inside a (dwarven) mine which might or might not be located inside the Underway.
What other stuff should I build? My thinking thus far is the odd ruined pillar, piles of rubble/ore, some dark holes with ladders sticking out of them for lower levels, some kind of cave wall with a more or less exposed ore seam and the wooden structure to mine it and maybe some mine carts.
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>>79728597
You’re not wrong about that. Though I prefer WhFB to AoS I think there is some merit in measuring melee range vs being into base to base contact.
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I got a question for 6th ed. In the skaven armybook ratling guns say they're S4 with save -2, what does that mean exactly? Will they reduce save by 2 all together, or reduce by 3 since the shot itself is S4.
Same thing with empire helblasters who are S4 with save -2 at long range and S5 with save -3 at short.
How the hell does this work?
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>>79728691
scafolding, a bridge from another level, underground aqueducts, a crossing for a larger opening in the ground, there are many options

>>79728905
it works exactly as its written, you do some basic math and thats how much the save is reduced by
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>>79728936
So in the ratling guns case, it's reduced by 2 all together? Meaning if it's shooting 1+ armored chaos knight chosen, they'll have a 3+ save?
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>>79728974
as you are saying the ratling guns are S4 and so do -1 armor save value, but because the weapon has a special rule that adds -2 to the save value you have a total of -3 to armor saves taken against this weapon. very hard to do math these days i guess
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>>79728897
Yeah, certainly WHFB is not the tightest of rulesets and suffers from a lot of clunkyness, but you can't beat it for visuals. And I do think it could be a great ruleset if given to the right hands, which unfortunately might not be GW anymore, but we will see what they do with TOW.
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So how does one go about negotiating with orcs? Is this something that can only be done with abberant, wealth-minded orcs? Or can any stray band be bought off with enough tribute and sent away to bother someone else?
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So, the cult of Ulric predating the formation of the Empire is just propoganda right? It may have grown out of primitive beliefs at the time, but surely the organization came at a much later date.
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>>79730109
I don't think you can bargain with many orcs outside of the few who act as mercenaries (like Ruglud) and if you can it probably is just "give me x amount of shiny stuff or we'll burn your city down".
You can negotiate with most goblins, but they usually just backstab you afterwards (or immediately).
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>>79730283
Chicken and egg argument, specifically, "Where does the evolving bird thing become a chicken". All the human tribes gave him a bit of worship, but it was closer to some of the weirder variants of the ancient norse style of worship - every act was in some way devoted to him, even if they didn't actually scream ULRIC BE PRAISED and sacrifice a slave every time they took a shit.

The cult in its modern form is about as old as the empire, though. The first known ar-ulric was a descendent of whatever the king that sigmar brutalised was, and the whole thing was probably a reaction to Sigmar being a turbo-autist for ulric.
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>>79730473
>The cult in its modern form is about as old as the empire, though. The first known ar-ulric was a descendent of whatever the king that sigmar brutalised was, and the whole thing was probably a reaction to Sigmar being a turbo-autist for ulric.

Sorry, forgot to add, the first known ar-ulric was around when Sigmar was still alive. So, eh. It's roughly the age of the empire.
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>like warhammer fantasy
>dislike grimdark and chaos
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If we're doing lore talk: Where do the Dwarfs fit in?

Like, Slann were basically infrastructure for the old ones. Bolt the planet here, nudge the orbit here, fix the climate, set up the new races, whatever. They grabbed the nascent Elves, decided "Hey, you guys are neat, who wants to learn 1+1=fireball?" and the Humans were so adorably primitive they thought they'd die of starvation, realised they could learn tricks later and taught them 1+1=2. But did they do anything with the dwarfs?
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>>79730604
Finding out chaos arbitrarily wins and is hacktshullee the source of all the gods is like finding out that 10/10 azn escort is a taiwanese man. With a certain mindset some people could really enjoy it, but it definitely turns the average person off hard.

I'm in the first camp though passing femboys can be cute. Probably gonna be called an autistic schizo secondary, but that angle of the setting is deeper than some people think. It spoils the whole thing unfortunately, at least for me.
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>>79730657
In my understanding Chaos is raw chaos, and it has given form to lots of things including the Dwarven/elven/human gods, but by far the most powerful are the chaos gods. But the chaos gods aren't the sum total of chaos. Should the chaos gods approach total control of that universe they will squeeze out/subsume the other gods, but until that point the other gods are seperate entities.

I also think there is a difference between 'if chaos wins once it's all over' and 'chaos will inevitably win'.
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>>79730764
I'd like to think it operates on "the battle is not to the strong alone", ie Britain was way stronger than Transvaal, but lost the first Boer War, or the US and USSR were way stronger than Vietnam/Afghanistan but still lost there too. Or, in more of a fantasy mindset, chaos is quantity over quality, on the whole stronger, but individually weaker, why guys like Aenarion or Sigmar though hopelessly outnumbered are superior to anything chaos has.

But then you get into the books and it's written off with cope of chaos not giving a shit enough to win and it sucks.
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>>79730819
Idk Chaos being by it's nature self sabotaging makes sense to me, I mean it is chaos. It's used as a deus ex machina by shitty writers but the whole 'there is a world ending power up at the poles looming over the world but it's relatively stable and waxes and wanes and needs prodding to come all the way down (ie an everchosen) isn't too lame to me
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>>79730819
US actually won the Vietnam War post Tet Offensive as it was a massive defeat for the North Vietnamese. The withdrawal had more to do with home front anti war sentiment and propaganda than it did with US performance by the end of the war. It took years for North Vietnam to recuperate their military strength and seize Saigon. If it hadn’t been for a gradual American withdrawal, and instead the US continued the offensive the war would’ve been won and South Vietnam would’ve came out on top.
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>>79730604
So you like the looks?
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So my Mantic Tortured Souls came in! Kind of annoyed as the model requiring assembly is standing on one foot running forward! Like wtf? With no tabs this is going to be obnoxious.

But in the end I’m happy with them! They’re actually really nice looking models. It’s a shame the official paint job is BAD and that nine of these guys cost $30.00
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>>79731018
Are these going to be converted into something warhammer related? Also resin and greenstuff around the feet, as though he's bursting forth/sinking from the ground.
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>>79730979
Tet fucked over the VC hard but we took heavy losses too. China talked about intervening if we pushed too far north too, so that was another big consideration.
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>>79731018
Here’s the best example of them painted. The plan is to use them as Horrors of Tzeentch for 6e, but they could make for good undead too with their gaunt look and fiery appearance.
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>>79731001
More or less. Vermintide for example looks fucking phenomenal.
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>>79731075
Diddling with them I found a great pose that looks like he’s getting ready to hurl a fire ball. But I have no plan on converting them as I like the way they look. Plan on having a unit of thirty of them and using pic related as flamers.
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>>79731120
Well, if it works.
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>>79731190
Sculpting kinda bad for being on 40mm
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>>79731190
I have those, nice lads they are. Just odd they're part of their Desert of the Dead range. Not something usually associated with lizardmen but then again no one but Japan thought to make elves brown anime girls before either.
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>>79731227
Mins sharing pics? Maybe it’s the paint job and lighting that make those look bad.
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>>79731227
I quite like the look of these. A lot of Kroxigor proxies I see look too overdesigned. I suppose the desert does have a lot of reptiles irl.
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>>79723028
Make a mold!
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>>79730604
Do you really even like WhFB if that's the case though?
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>>79719976
Just thought a Spawn would be useful
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>>79731927
I'm happy you posted a Throgg lists, as it interested me in making my own small force down the ride. I'd really encourage that you build your list around a core of seven trolls with Throgg in it deployed 2x4 and a support unit of three to four trolls. That, "Look out sir!" is just too good to pass up.
What models are you using btw?
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>>79731927
>>79731973
deployed 4x2*
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Does the Healing Light spell in 4e heal critical injuries if all wounds are healed? I might just be a colossal faggot, but I can't see anything on it one way or the other. Other spells and miracles tend to specify 'does' or 'does not'.
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>>79731973
I actually managed to get Throgg for only $60 instead of the ridiculous ebay price. So him and river trolls since I can get them for a reasonable price.
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>>79731973
In terms of bsb wouldn't a guy on a demonic mount be pretty vulnerable due to not sharing a base size with anything else in the army?
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>>79732083
Dude, that's awesome. Saw people are wanting $120, hell to the no, lol. You going to do much converting for the river trolls? Or nah?
>>79732099
Not him, but he might be thinking of running him solo to better spread the "Hold your ground ruling!" across multiple units. It being mounted on a 50mm would definitely give you a range advantage too.
An example online of a BSB I found for a Throgg Army is this bad boy-

198 Gorba the Bloated One
, Exalted Hero (110) + Battle Standard Bearer (25)
+ Mark of Nurgle (10) + Palanquin of Nurgle (40)
+ Dragonhelm (10) + Shield (3)

He's from this guy's army-
https://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/1225/troll-horde-throgg-king-trolls
List featured here-
https://eefl.freeforums.net/thread/1224/2000p-throgg-army

This guy is giving some solid advice btw >>79719976
But some of it isn't relevant to the point cost you're playing out just to keep in mind.

If you're wanting a few more toys in your list at a 1000pts you could get away with running Throgg in a unit of 6 trolls, including him, and having a unit of 3 or 4 as support, putting you at 499-537 points, leaving you with 501 or 463 left over.
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>>79732360
I saw people wanting almost $200 so I was pretty happy about the price I paid.

Does a character on a warshrine benefit from the ward save? If I go to higher points game I might go with that
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>>79730283
No? Taal, Ulric, Rhya, Morr, Shallya and even Verena were all pretty well established before the Empire formed. If nothing else Taal and Ulric are part of the creation myths of two major cities. The only latecomers are Sigmar, two centuries after, and whenever Myrmidia got introduced. Not sure when Ranald showed up or Manaan but the latter especially could be pretty old.
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>>79731190
I can work with this. Mostly the crocodilian look but with a bit of the vague dinosaur feel that old Kroxigor had with the horn and spines. My main problem with the TWW version that everyone seems to love is they look chubby, but these guys are obviously muscled.
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>>79732027
Or if nobody has a ruling, would it be unreasonable to say that a second cast once all wounds are healed can heal any critical injury barring unconsciousness, with a miscast making it unable to be touched by any sort of miracle or spell?
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>>79731329
When I get home.
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>>79730657
What army do you run in tabletop? What traditional games do you ever play?
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>>79730657
I gotta bite: chaos is not the same as capital c Chaos. Chaos Gods are their own entities, chaos is the aethyr, magic, the warp if you're a 40kfag. It makes sense that every god comes from chaos because the gods will be in the magic realm, not the mundane reality. So it just means all gods are sitting in the same soup and not arbitrarily separated into a knockoff heaven and hell.
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>>79723205
>AoS
>WoW retarded
Same thing.
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>>79731813
Chaos and the accompanying grimdark are like a completely separate tacked-on thing. Warhammer without Chaos wouldn't lose much.
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>>79732785
I run trains on your mom regularly. Thanks for your nontribution to this thread
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>>79733366
>Warhammer without Chaos wouldn't lose much.
yeah, it would be just another soulless Tolkien ripoff
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>>79729206
No, that's actually WRONG you retard, in 6th (and some extent 7th) edition many artillery weapons had, for some unknown reason, their strength and armor piercing values written separate, like in this pic. It's obvious the nehative armour save value represents the totality of the reduced armor and is in both cases equal to the weapon just having an armor piercing special rule like in 8th.

Congrats on being a smug retard.
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>>79733477
>generic tolkien fantasy setting
>generic edgy nihilism setting
at least 1 gives you more storytelling opportunities than 2
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I wish they had released a Uniforms and Heraldry book for every faction.
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>>79730604
>like warhammer fantasy
X to doubt.
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>>79733653
Based retard.
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Vermintide 1 dlc - adventure on river, dwarf karak in mountains, spooky castle, comfy countryside

Vermintide 2 dlc - ruins, blasted ruins, wastes and ruins and imperial ghetto

They went so wrong with second game.
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>>79734193
Nothing.
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>>79733250
That's insulting to WoW. As bad it is WoW is at least not AoS.
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>>79731329
As promised. Here they are with what I believe is a last sword caiman. Those Spanish swine have yet to ship my elf princess.
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>>79734304
Depends on which wow era you're talking about.

I don't like AOS myself, but I can see why people do. There's something there, even if it's fucking dumb.
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>>79734340
I honestly don't. The only positive is DoK being literally all of my fetishes but Morathi not being a Slaaneshi cultist is just foul to me.
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>>79733385
What traditional games do you play? When was the last time you played Warhammer tabletop?
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>>79730604
pre-6th wasn't grimdark
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playing dwarfs for the first time tomorrow with my undead. i have no fast units apart from 6 fell bats and he has multiple cannons. am i fucked?
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>>79734674
Edition?
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>>79734684
5th. It's gonna be a casual game but after taking a look at dwarfs it looks like they're the perfect counter, being so resistant to fear and with powerful artillery. Decided not to take my Banshee as her scream seems completely useless against them. I'm just a little worried it'll be a stomp and not fun for either of us rather than an action packed game.
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>>79734674
Yeah probably. I'd say your best hope is deathstar some zombies to port your casters across the battlefield but with dwarves it'll take a lot of power dice to break through.
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>>79734751
Yeah I was thinking the same. Just hope my casters get in range and hope for good magic. Not played my Vampire Counts yet but some spells like Curse of Years seem insane.
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>>79734674
Bring terrain
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>>79734628
>RoC
>5th chaos
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>>79733517
Yeah, see that's the problem I'm having. And the thing that's causing this to be a bigger bitch is that skaven jezzails have a profile of S6 with armor piercing. Meaning that in my mind it would be more logical for the ratling gun to fire with S4 and an extra -2 modifier, since they didn't just write armor piercing.
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>>79728905
>>79734939
the ap used is just what is written in the table. that's how it was in older editions
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>>79734628
4th ed is the only one you might be able to argue wasn't grimdark pre-6th.
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>>79734628
i have the vampire counts 5th book and it's kind of grim dark? its dark and grim but not to grimderp levels. just a healthy amount of edge.
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>>79732027
As far as I can tell healing light does not cure crits, since as far as I know any spell/prayer that cures a crit either specifies that it does, or references a rule that specifies that it can heal crits(such as Lore of Life's Regenerate spell)

As far as I can tell with 4e crit healing tends to be mainly reserved for Shallyans, as the regenerate spell only heals crits on a random roll essentially, everyone else has to live with the crit or walk it off, so to speak. Healing lights biggest advantage is that it can be used to help get rid of some of your corruption with only the caveat that is has to be used within an hour after you earned a corruption point.
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>>79731927
Sad to say but Spawns suck. If you want to take one then go with MoT since the Breath Weapon can actually be quite devastating if you manage to get the model in line for a good shot.
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>>79735458
I wouldnt say spawn suck, theyre just outmatched by some exceptional choices in WoC rare (the hellcannon, which is your only shooting unit, and skullcrushers, the premiere monstrous cav in the game)

Its no shaggoth, but its just fairly low impact for the army, WoC dont exactly have an issue dishing out s4 attacks.
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>>79734628
You only need to read Dark Elves, Undead or Chaos to find out you're wrong.
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>>79732099
The point of putting your BSB on a Daemonic Mount is that it ups him to T5 with 3 wounds while also giving him a reasonably swift mount.
>>79732360
>Exalted Hero (110) + Battle Standard Bearer (25)
+ Mark of Nurgle (10) + Palanquin of Nurgle (40)
+ Dragonhelm (10) + Shield (3)
The problem I see with this build is that it has the same base size as the Daemonic Mount but is way slower meaning that it's that much more of a target. Another point to mention is that while it does up the BSBs wounds to 4 it would still only have T4.
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I am running and one of the characters is a former phoenix guard who abandoned her duty and is on the verge of getting corrupted by Slaanesh. Is that too lore-breaking?
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>>79735584
Isnt the palanquin a 40x40?

>>79735627
The big issue is that you want to be playing a phoenix guard.
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>>79735627
No, you are not running and you don't play. Go away.
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>>79734336
Those look a lot better than expected. The website doesn’t do them justice. Middle guy looks great.
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>>79735690
Middle guy is from last sword.
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>>79735636
I am a gm, a beginner one, to be fair, and therefore, I am asking if I should allow such a character. The game takes place in Bretonnia. We have an arabyan assasin who wants to take revenge on Bretonnia, an imperial disinherited noble, a peasent bowman who killed his lord's son who raped his bethroled, and I wonder if I should allow this last high elf character
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>>79735703
Phoenix guard are pretty important, well beyond the scope of what a starting character would be.

A wayward elf sounds like a decent character idea, good reason to be out an about.
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>>79735719
well, you are right, but what if she got cursed by Asuryan for betraying his cause, and is quite handicapped because of it? You see, the guy who suggets this character is quite insistant, he even made a comission to represent her
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>>79735773
Active divine curses are really rare if not straight up unprecedented in terms of what I believe you are talking about.
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>>79735773
reeks of autism honestly
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>>79735794
don't phoenix guard undergo some sort of a ritual during their training? Perhaps breaking the effects of said ritual can be devastaitng, Slaaneshi corruption in this case
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>>79735773
no, no, and no

>he even made a comission to represent her
quadruple nope

just flat tell him it's completely lore breaking and also well beyond the scope of the game. if he protests, remind him that the strict realities of the world are what keep it engaging for players and as such he has to pick something that actually works. also what >>79735657 said
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>>79735831
Yes, but heres some context.

Malekith, witch king of Naggaroth, stepped into the flame of asuryan and was cursed by him. Standing inside the physical embodiment of asuryans power left him burned and near death, but once the burns were healed he was largely fine until Teclis called down the power of asuryan again and finuval.

That is Malekith, THE evil elf, THE arch traitor as far as the Asur are concerned. And despite all that the curse of asuryan proved manageable in the long term, the immediate danger being stepping into fucking fire.

Meanwhile phoenix guard swear and oath of silence and have their future revealed to them.
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>>79726337
That's way more affordable than I expected... cool! Could you post a printed model for us to see?
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>>79726337
How do you deal with fumes?
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>>79732422
Sad thing is the price is likely justified on account of it being limited and a worse material when it comes to stripping etc. That price you got it for is phenomenal.
As to the Palanquin? It could work, but that's a mighty big point sink, not saying it's necessarily not worth it, as it has some benefits to making sure Throgg doesn't go full on Spawn- But with how big of a target it is and the points it's worth you're better off just going with a Palanquin BSB. With the BSB taking up less of a presence you have a greater chance keeping him alive, also, if the BSB gets taken out that's a lot less points then a Warshrine Hero getting taken out.
>>79735584
Although less Swift the Palanquin provides a level of tankiness needed to sustain the force. In order to do his job he'll need to be in the center of action. Monstrous units will be able to provide him some LoS blocking too, but I think the Palanquin is better suited for the tasks.
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>>79732422
>Does a character on a warshrine benefit from the ward save?
Unfortunately no, or it would be a pretty good mount.
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Where do skinks rate, lore wise, on the magic scale? Wizard lord? Elf mage? Loremaster? Morathi? Just letting the first spawning slann think they're in charge?
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>>79736300
Theyre not exceptional for the most part, but some like the prophet of sotek are enough to make Thanquol, a grey seer of considerable power, completely shit themlselves
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>>79728691
Years ago I built a dwarven coal deposit/reservoir

You could make one of those too as a storage for the fuel they need for their machinery.

Pic related
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>>79736300
More powerful than the Slann, yet less developed. In the lore Skinks have a natural and unexplored affinity for magic. Before ET the Slann were looking into a contingency plan if they were to die out, and when they pursued the undertaking they found the true potential of the skink. But that was retconned, though I still like it as my Headcanon
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>>79736407
>More powerful than the Slann
lolno
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>>79736423
>lolno
"lol"yes
The Skinks had the potential to be more powerful, but they did not have the training, discipline, or experience. It doesn't even matter though as the idea was dropped/retconned with ET. Just a niche piece of lore that doesn't matter anymore.
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>>79736468
>The Skinks had the potential to be more powerful
they didnt, not even close
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>>79736407
Slann literally reshaped the solar system for funsies. That ain't skinks.
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>>79736478
>>79736487
>lorelet
Not going to argue with somebody unfamiliar with the lore and how it changed edition to edition. If you're interested in it make a post on Lustria Online and maybe somebody will be nice enough to explain it to you. That person is just not going to be me though.
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>>79736520
Lustria Online?
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>>79736520
I accept your concession.
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>>79736556
https://www.lustria-online.com/
>>79736562
Than it works out for both of us, I don't waste my time, and you get to stroke your ego. Peace, "pal".
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>>79736367
Holy fucking sovl...
It looks like it's straight out of a WD from the golden age aka age of the fat bloke.
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>>79735698
Titty Combat, LastSword, MOM, and Fireforge (Forgotten worlds) ranges are probably the best true to scale 1:1 to Warhammer fantasy. I have several minis from each and when ranked up it fits well.
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>>79736367
Oh, nice! Don't mind if I steal the idea!
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>>79728936
Those are some fine ideas too, thanks!
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>>79734722
Yes, I think you might struggle against them in 5th...

Don't worry though, stomps are always fun for the side thst stomps, don't believe them when they say otherwise, it's just their slave morality and conformism speaking.
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>>79735636
>Isnt the palanquin a 40x40?
No, it's on a 50x50. It's meant to fit inside a unit of Chaos Warriors/Chosen/Marauders who are all on 25x25 bases.
>>79736185
>Although less Swift the Palanquin provides a level of tankiness needed to sustain the force
I'm not so sure about that seeing as we're talking 4 T4 wounds vs 3 T5 wounds. I do grant however that the palanquin is more likely to survive a cannonball. Then again its lack of speed also means that it might be shot more times.
I'd also argue that the daemonic mount is more in theme with a monstrous horde but that's a matter of taste and/or conversion.
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>>79737110
>No, it's on a 50x50.
But it came with a 40x40? And people run it in a unit of chaos trolls?
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>>79737169
I don't know if you are refering to the old metal palanquins in which case that might have been the case (I dunno) but If you look at Epidemius on GW's webpage he stills comes with a 50x50 base.
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Ricco is almost ready for Lustria
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>>79737293
Looks like he's miming a blowjob.
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>>79737169
Why are you lying?
>Marauders 25x25mm
>Warriors 25x25mm
>Knights 25x50mm
Palanquins have always been 50x50mm, even during WhFb3e and RoC.
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Is this supposed to be castle drakenhof?
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>>79737293
Perry miniature manlet
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>>79737371
Looks like Sauron jammin' out to me.
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>>79737396
Lol that’s what I was thinking

At first I just assumed it was blood keep or drakenhof or something, but as I’ve (poorly) been trying to imitate I can’t stop seeing some big spooky guy holding a spear heiling hitler
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>>79737488
Gotsa know how high the vampire's pet dire wolf jumps!
Also, nice imitation.
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>>79734939
It doesn't tho. That's just how they used to write "artillery" profiles back then.
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>>79737488
What's wrong with that? Heiling hitler is based.
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>>79737609
Because I want to paint a castle retard
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>>79737633
#CastlesCanBeNazisToo
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>>79737633
It's obvious you don't REALLY want to paint a castle... just let it go bro... I know you hate them too... you know the vampire counts would have hated them...
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>>79737293
That leaf on his base is better painted than him.
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Do you think I could get away with using Korean Historicals as high elves? They pretty much look the same.
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300th for Wood Elves!
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>>79737719
Anon. Please stop trolling on low effort mode.
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>>79737818
Lighten the skin and add superfluous gems.
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>>79737831
>301
lol
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>>79736835
Please do!

And post pictures when you're done.

If I were to re do it today (8ish years later) it'd probably look more subdued in colour and tone. But I still like it.
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>>79737818
No, and no they don’t

They’re supposed to look like what, reavers? They don’t resemble at all
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>>79737833
Please stop posting models that look like they were dunked in the paint pot
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>>79737857
They look same enough
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>>79737818
>They pretty much look the same.
They dont? At all.

Historicals barely pass for empire and bretonnia, historical expies, due to the difference in scale and artstyle. They dont work at all for other armies.
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>>79737879
Not even him, but you just keep missing the mark. Lurk on /b/ or something. You’re just bad at this embarrassingly. You’ll never be good as edit-poster, schizo-penguin poster, beast-poster, etc.
You can’t compete, just give up now.
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>>79737893
It’s not a big deal though when you factor in scale creep. I mean compare Ruglud’s Armored Orc from 3e with 6e. They look exactly like high elves and that’s all that really matters, not they’re size. As long as they fit on the right bases I’m good.
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>>79737886
Yeah, they are both vaguely humanoid in shape. Good enough for low tier bait.
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>>79737950
Just because you can’t adequately legitimize a complaint between this >>79737818
and pic related doesn’t make it bait troll.
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>>79733932
Only thing he's wrong about is the nihilism angle. It's not edgy nihilismo, it's just the writers gobslobbering chaos and begging it to fuck them in the ass. The sheer devotion the writers have to chaos and the way they talk about them forgetting the other 13+ armies they made and the rest of their setting is an absolute joke and blatant fanfiction.

They can deny it and say whatever they want but most of them talk like chaos is their favoritest and a few of them talk like they genuinely have some kind of fetish for the edgy 12 yo grimdurp that chaos entails.
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>>79737915
I'm not that anon, but I am two of those 3 people. Glad my work is getting the credit I deserve, thanks.
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>>79738088
Oh >inb4 w-well ur just dumb post models b-based retard h-haha
Chaos can eat shit Chaos "lore" can eat shit and Chaos apologists can eat shit. You need to be 18 to post here and no 18 year old would look at AAAAAA YEA SKULLZ BLOOD HOPELESS DOOM BLOOD PISS RAPE SHIT GORE SKULL BLOOD and go "yea thats some very good writing"
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>>79737994
Oh my bad senpai, now I look closely, clearly they are the same. The horses are even both moving forward. Uncanny. Continue.
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>>79738108
On an unrelated note Robert Schwalb who wrote a lot of WFRP2e material and made a system of his own is an actual scat fetishist and loves Chaos. He wrote that Khorne's realm has a field where daemons endlessly shit and piss on each other and regurgitate said piss and bloody diarrhea onto shit flowers.

I guess it's debatable if Chaos fluff is inherently retarded, but it's observably true that it draws weirdos and retards like flies to, well, Khorne's flower garden.
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>>79738099
I’m one of those and pretend to be the other two. Love you comrade.
>I beheld a raging beast, chained to that wall of stone by brazen and bloody chain.
>Its every bellow shook the ground upon which I stood; its every utterance fulsome with the fury of war.
>As the Grail Knight’s gaze fell upon me, he demanded with booming voice that I set him free, that it might bring the glory of The Lady to this realm once more.
>Momentarily I considered the beast's demands, for an ally in that dark realm of Bretonni would have been a welcome thing.
>But then I realised the folly of such a course; that Grail Knight had no place in its heart for loyalty to one such as I; The Lady was his only master, and deranged pilgrims the only companion he would ever acknowledge.
>I left that place with speed, and prayed to Sigmar that the chains would hold 'til I was gone.
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>>79738108
>>79738088
Meds. Take them.
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>>79738266
>inb4 w-well ur just dumb post models b-based retard h-haha
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>>79738266
>dubs of Slaanesh
Shocker, a Slaaneshy cultist needs big strong warriors to do his work, how irksome you groveling coward. May Khorne claim your soul- COWARD.
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>>79738088
>>79738108
Based schizo
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>>79737818
If you are either blind or brain damaged, yes.
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How do you take care of FAQs and Errata?

As in, I don't want to go into my now out-of-print army book and make the necessary wording changes with a pen. But printing off a pdf to reference seems awkward. Should I just ignore it unless a specific scenario or question comes up?
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>>79738537
Make a print out, dont vandalize your AB.

Or just bring the pdf on your phone.
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>>79738179
>He wrote that Khorne's realm has a field where daemons endlessly shit and piss on each other and regurgitate said piss and bloody diarrhea onto shit flowers.
Quote?
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>>79738698
>Quote?
Just trust me.
Why would anybody here lie?
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>>79736100
except Malekith eventually became the King
I think ET is retarded, instead of the whole PK use mages not to feel pain it should be something like, Asuryan burned Malekith because the Druchii was part of his plan, he wanted the eternal elf civil war so elves remained strong and didn't become wimps
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>>79735353
I suppose that tracks. Shame. Ta.
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>>79738899
People here, me included dont give ET much thought. Regardless none of that changes what i said, malekith is the closest to an active curse from asuryan or any of the order gods really andhe still required highly specific circumstances and it was a very physical and mundane thing in terms of effect
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>>79738899
>Asuryan burned Malekith because the Druchii was part of his plan, he wanted the eternal elf civil war so elves remained strong and didn't become wimps
>99
Yeah, that's what you want us to think, but it was your chaos interference that fucked him up, scouring him with your changefires. Warping him in both body, mind, and soul! Malekith was destined to be the Phoenix King before your unholy interventions! To think! Malekith, the daemons' bane would ally with daemons due to your abominable machinations!
Begone WARPER of the Ways!

Let us never forget the man Malekith, may we not conflate such a noble and pure soul with the dreaded champion of Tzeentch- THE WITCH KING.
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>>79739128
I wish in armour he didn't look so much like the attached meme.
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>>79739128
Based loreful schizoposting
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>>79739150
Still ten times better than goldface.
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NEW THREAD

>>79739402
>>79739402
>>79739402

Bu- But we're not even on page 10!
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>>79738698
Tome of Corruption
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>>79739496
And how it goes exactly?
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>>79734350
>but Morathi not being a Slaaneshi cultist is just foul to me.
but it's good, don't need smegmar for that tho



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