Laura edition>Free online playing:https://lichess.orghttps://chess.comhttps://chess24.comhttps://www.playok.com/en/chesshttps://greenchess.nethttps://www.freechess.club/play>Tactics trainers:https://lichess.org/traininghttps://chesstempo.comhttps://blitztactics.com>run out of free match analysis on chess.com>download or ctrl+c the PGN for the match>make a free account on lichess.org>tools - import game - paste/upload PGN - toggle analysis>click on the "learn from your mistakes" button>Explore openings:https://lichess.org/analysis#explorer>Starter books:Soviet chess primer by Maizelis et alPlay Winning Chess by Yasser SeirawanChess Fundamentals by CapablancaComplete Idiot's Guide to Chess by Patrick WolffLogical Chess: Move by Move by Irving ChernevEncyclopedia of Chess Combinations (sixth edition, 2021)>Archived threads:https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/chess/type/op>Where to find master games:https://chessgames.com>Join the lichess team:https://lichess.org/team/vietnamese-basket-weaving-forumPrevious:>>79669726
>>79708290this thread edition book on rotation:https://www.newinchess.com/encyclopedia-of-chess-combinations-sixth-edition
>>79708285as black, just play the counter gambit the modern way with exf4 instead of pushing e4 i know zero theory beyond that and i do very well there as black
>>79708325If you play e4 and can't play a decent e4e5 game as black, the retard here is you.
>>79708437>>79708325careful with those (you) guys
>>79708269It is quite literally not a subset of 1.e4
>>79708437That's not what the argument is about. Yes, I play e4, and yes, when I occasionally flex with e5 I don't do too poorly. But to play e5 well as Black, ideally, you need to have one line ready in every variation: an answer to the Scottish, the Scottish Gambit, the King's Gambit, the Danish, the Vienna with f4, the Vienna with Bc4, the Bishop's Opening, the Slow Italian, the Italian with d4, the Evans and the Spanish. Whereas, to play e4 as White, you only need to know every line in one variation. So it's not a subset of the e4 theory you've learned at all - you'll need to learn more to play the Black side. For example, if you play the Spanish as White, you'll need to learn a Black line against the Italian.
>>79708500I said that in a way its actually wrong lol. Anyway you choose what to play against 1...e5 so you only need to know the response you play.
>>79708559Yep that's why I don't play e5. It's too much.
>>79708290>Lauraher channel, shared with other 2 girls:https://www.twitch.tv/Checkitas
>>79708728e4e5 is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get :)
>>79708810Do other chessweebs even appear on their channel or it's only Boros these days?
I played a different bullet line for you to be entertained anon.
I like playing e4 e5 as white, but hate it as black - my opponent always plays super passive and we get some boring position.
>>79709466i am not entertained.i just want to puke.
>>79709471As black you should first seek to equalize. If your opponent plays passively, it's a good thing. You should not fear boring positions as black.Positions are only boring if you know everything about them, and I doubt you do.
>>79709499Okay, it is your right to purge yourself anon.
why even play e4 if you're going to play something like the exchange spanish lol
is Gondola winning? I must know
>get outplayed by the fucking englund gambit>elo refund 5 minutes laterI'm not surprised
>>79710177Those white stones need eyes
>1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Nxe5 Nc6 4. Nxc6 dxc6 5. f3 Bc5 6. c3 Nxe4 7. fxe4 Qh4+ 8. g3 Qxe4+ 9. Qe2 Qxe2+ 10. Bxe2I've gotten this line a shocking number of times. I'm not complaining though, i love when people go for "traps" without paying attention to what i play. thank you based rosen for making everybody play retarded shit
>>79710125The Exchange Spanish is a valid try for the advantage - engine of course says it's all zeroes, but greater experience in the line and knowledge of plans, ideas and historical games should count.>>79710308Same, I unironically got 1. d4 e5 2. dxe5 Bc5 3. Nf3 d6 4. exd6 Ne7. This meme crap really pads my elo.
>>79710177Too many stones in a row to be a game.
>1 blunder>it was defending a fork square when the piece threatening it couldn't move because it was pinnedfuck
>>79708290FUCKING WASTE OF TIME FUCKING GAME, FUCKING MEMORIZATION TO GET TO 2000 RATING FUCKING BULLSHIT CAN'T WIN PURELY ON FORETHOUGHT ALONE FUCKING GAME, FUCKING 4 YEAR OLD CHESS PRODIGY ENDS UP GROWING UP TO BE A FUCKING LOSER FUCKING GAME FUCKING DOESN'T TRANSLATE TO ANY REAL LIFE SKILLS FUCKING GAME FUCKING CLOSET HOMOSEXUAL GAME
>get a PDF about the Nimzo-Indian to work on my Nimzo-Indian prep>play a game>my opponent plays a different move on move six that's not in the theory I learned, theory is to castle and play d5 but he plays c5 and d5>go back to the pdf>"Well c5 is also a good move in this position but in this book I'll only discuss the main move, 0-0."Turns out my in-game reply was correct, but fucking seriously??
>>79710969t. lost to a 4 year old prodigy
>>79711008It's the best way to teach a repertoire, you want one response to remember not multiple ones
don't know why you guys are always bringing up the exchange french it's garbage. have to be really happy as Black when White goes for those lines
>>79711799? It only seems to comes up when I moan about having to face it
might start playing the marshall attack when i get the opportunity
>>79711799I actually think the Exchange French is pretty good for White. White gets to choose - do you play c4 and go for dynamism, or do you play boring and use your one-move advantage to play draw in hand amd get a microscopic edge?I agree that objectively Black has no problems, but that's true in all mainline openings.
Can someone explain my opponent's high skill move of 3. Ne5?
>>79713138its a trap and you fell for it 4.Qh5+ g3 5.Nxg3 hxg3 6.Qxh8
>>79713138Stop playing anonymous patzers. Make an account, start playing actually interesting games with players of your level
>>79713232hey man that's mean i do have an account i'm just really bad
>>79713138damn, and i probably would've fallen for it too if he actually knew that
>>79713138Do not concern yourself with the motivation behind blunders. Just take and carry on. Although to speculate, some seem to hear the idea of outpost squares so advanced knight out to be good but haven't grasped the finer points such as can my knight be immediately taken by a pawn? Some think it's really super good to double pawns and will sac pieces for that.
>>79713578Also if it really was a trap you're not familiar with, you will find out in the game. Afterwards check analysis to see what you should have done to defend it.
Ok anons, give it to me straight, is the Vienna system worth learning or is it not worth spending time on it?
>that extra bit of satisfaction you get beating someone from israel
>>79714348It's a worthwhile opening. Objectively no opening for White gives any advantage, but the Vienna has some fun aggressive lines. That said, if you already have an e4 opening that you like, stick with that one. Become a master of one thing.
>>79714348if you're like 1000 or below the viena gambit will break bucks left and right
>win game>turn on engine>missed kino sacrifice mateworse feeling than this?
>>79714400I don’t have one I like yet, I’m trying to decide between leaning the Vienna or Italian.
>Opponent down two rooks and a knight>Doesn't concede>Wastes as much time as possible trying to find the longest route to checkmatewhy the fuck do people do this holy shit
>>79714830Because at lower ratings people start blundering everything once they have an advantage.
>>79714734Well, as someone who plays the Vienna, I'd say that around 2000 elo the opening starts to lose its appeal because of certain specific lines. Not enough to deter me from playing it, but enough that I'd wish to be an Italian player. However, I dislike the Italian also. Every opening is a dull draw nowadays.
>>79714860Do they honestly expect me to blunder three pieces and still somehow lose an endgame while 4 pawns up?I am genuinely concerned for the mental health of these people.
Aww. I just played a kid who didn't know how to mate with a queen. He said to this point he always won in middle game or lost in end game. I gave him tutorial. It was cute.
>>79715005what a chump lolimagine not knowing how to stalemate with a queen every time, pathetic
>>79715015I thought he might but he knew the rule that you can't stalemate if every move is check.
>>79715005>I gave him tutorial. It was cute.get out of here filthy rusky
>>79708559>But to play e5 well as Black, ideally, you need to have one line ready in every variation: an answer to the Scottish, the Scottish Gambit, the King's Gambit, the Danish, the Vienna with f4, the Vienna with Bc4, the Bishop's Opening, the Slow Italian, the Italian with d4, the Evans and the Spanish.that's why it's so fun1 hour worth of prep in total for all those combined, you just need 3-4 moves and a planbut yes, it's definitely more daunting and diverse than just going 1...c5 >Whereas, to play e4 as White, you only need to know every line in one variation. you still have to face caro kann, french, sicilian, e5, philidor, pirc, alekhine and even weird shit like b6 and Nc6though even that is not that much theory, just 3-4 moves and a plan
Welp. Just but in a tattletail snitch report on a suspected cheater. I've never done that in over 1000 games played. On the rare occasion I think something was fishy the analysis showed no signs of cheating. This one though, all the signs except for brand new account. This month he went on a 20 game tilted loss streak. Suddenly in my game and the game just before he's putting in flawless games.
How do you draw these arrows on chess dot com?
>>79716308right click and hold, drag to desired square.
>>79716216what is with you kids always checking your opponent's game histories lolin like a billion games i've never felt the desire to do it
>>79716338That's probably the first thing I tried, but it doesn't work.
>>79716436Check your settings. I think arrows are disabled by default and you have to enable them manually.
>>79716536I've been through the settings inside and out, there's no setting for this anywhere.
>>79714716>win game with kino sacrifice mate>turn on engine>the sacrifice was a blunder
>>79714899Really depends on your rating. I'm around 1500 blitz and occasionally blunder shit like that when I'm low on the clock. That is the power of 1500 lichess blitz...
>>79716591I see you haven't bought Chess.com Tanzanite Membership. No arrows for you, cheapskate.
>>79716536>disabled by defaultnope>>79716686not him but I'm not registered and I have them
>>79716686But I'm a Platinum member.I got it for the unlimited puzzles.
>>79716428I only do that if I suspect shenanigans.
>>79716908Unironically though.Pretty amazing that I don't have the arrows with a platinum fucking membership.
>right click on the board during a puzzle>goes back to puzzle home screen
https://youtu.be/11hE0Tf9PloHilarious calculation by Rosen. Imagine this happening to you in OTB long match.
>opponent resings after losing a knight to a pin tacticCome on bro its just a minor piece, we're not GMs, keep playing
>Wesley So: thank you Jesuswhat a based guy
>put endgame I lost yesterday into the engine to see how it would win>15 minutes and it's still calculatingat least I get to do something else lmao
My opponent just transposed from the pirc into the scandi on move 2...
my king went on a trip lmaohttps://lichess.org/8VELgTim/black#36
here's a simple but very aesthetic tactic bros(white moves)
I don't think I've seen this channel shilled here yet: https://m.youtube.com/c/KebuChess/He does the "explain the basic ideas of chess openings in around 15 minutes" thing that people like the hanging pawns guy do, but I think his explanations are the clearest out of any channel I've come across.
>>79718671that's because he hasn't actively uploaded in forever. A damn shame.
>>79718761True, but the channel still has videos on most of the major openings. I think it would be worthwhile to add him to the OP, right now there's no resources on openings beside the lichess opening explorer there.
I dont know why people shit on the "booby fischer teaches chess" bookThanks to that book i was never back rank mated as a begginer and the number of back rank mates i have delivered is probably close to 100 by now
>>79718671you're right, this guy is way better than hanging pawns for example. I now get the point of d6 in the sicilian
>>79718894>>79718671>muh openingsJust play Fischer random.
>>79718904Fischer random is great, but I love the community factor of openings in standard chess. It's a nice thing to discuss and bond over.
>>79719039There's nothing nice about trying to keep up with AI.
>>79719045Nobody on this site is good enough for that to be relevant.
dear FIDE, please switch to CrazyHouse960, it's time
>>79719062That's what theory is.
>>79719067That's what theory is if you're a GM. For shitters like us, theory is getting an opening book written in the 80s, remembering maybe a third of what's written there and using it against people who learned the same way (or by watching youtube videos, lol).
>>79719109If you spend half the time learning modern theory as you do learning 80s theory, you'll completely blow away the 80s theory guy.
>>79719118And if you spend half the time learning modern theory as you do complaining about theory, you might eventually make it to a level where your complaints are relevant. But you won't do that and you know it.
>>79719132Just face it, theory is a crutch for poor skill.
>>79708325Learn to think.
>>79719161>keep getting beat>"I know, I'll just learn the first 15 moves of every opening by heart"
>>79719175>I would be better than all of you if you didn't use x to improve your chances of winningScrub mentality.
>>79719207Grandmasters tend to agree that theory is increasingly killing the game, especially after AI engines.It's increasingly about learning by heart rather than actually playing. That's why Bobby invented Fischer random to begin with.
>>79719287Which bishop though...
>>79719245>Grandmasters tend to agree that theory is increasingly killing the gameBecause the amount of theory required at the grandmaster level is enormous.>It's increasingly about learning by heart rather than actually playing. If you're a grandmaster.>That's why Bobby invented Fischer random to begin with.Bobby Fischer was a grandmaster who barely considered people bellow grandmaster level to be human.You're no grandmaster.
>>79719320>Because the amount of theory required at the grandmaster level is enormous.What the fuck is this logic lol.The game played by the GMs is the exact same as the one everyone else plays. The theory applies to every player level.
Opening theory is just another way to increase your winning chances.Grandmasters might not like it because they have to study a lot just to have a chance at all, to arrive at zero.Meanwhile for players at the level of the people in this thread you can spend just a bit of time and get an edge on your opponent who didn't bother to do that. In some openings you can even get free wins that way.
>>79719415Theory is so insane at the GM level because GMs operate on razor thin margins. If you're not even a titled player, there's no point in spending hundreds of hours studying lines which you will likely never see because your opponent doesn't play optimal theory, and which give you some sort of tiny advantage that you'll piss away anyway because you don't have the strength and accuracy of a GM.If you instead learn only a bit of theory and spend all that extra time playing, analyzing games and doing puzzles, you will be a better player than if you had studied GM level theory instead.
Wtf is the modern defense lmao?Nobody plays this shit right?
>>79719704Take the Hypermodern pill, anon, and you too can be Playing Winning Chess (tm)
I lost my promotion match to break into the 1800sI'm so sad frens, I was so nervous the entire game and now I'm just sad and angry at myself. why didn't I just push the past pawn aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>79719730Can't find a single game where a famous GM plays the modern defenseThis "defense" is for patzers
>>79719806>even the most cursory examination disproves your thesishttps://www.365chess.com/opening.php?m=3&n=143&ms=e4.g6&ns=3.143
>>79719730Yasser is a caro-kann player.
>>79719830He plays the Caro-Kann, sure, but he's also famous for playing the Pirc Defense, which is part of the same hypermodern complex as the Modern and often transposes.For the most amazing chess game I've ever seen, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHkNaSh19lUFor him discussing one of his cheeky Pirc sidelines: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJmjt9GGhA8This man's strategic chess was/is on another level entirely, and Yasser lectures are comfy af, so these videos come highly recommended.
>>79719805This always happens to me when I'm about to break a round number. I will have good steady progression, but then suddenly stall completely around 1-3 wins away from making it. I think I sat between 1585-1599 for like thirty games a few months ago.
>>79719897I'll have a look at those vids, always love me some Yasser lectures :)
>>79719704it's fianchetto opening that stays flexible, offers little weakness, and fights on bof sides. also scores well at all openings, and is relatively decisive.all in all the modern is a fun and effective way to play the opening!
yfw even Botez studies lines and openings against specific opponents; and omg that coach! ah ahhttps://youtu.be/Re3R4GAaR9M
>>79719989> O-O?!Looks like a funny emote.
>>79720016I thought Hammer is in his forties and he's actually a year younger than me.
>>79719989doubt is defeat, do your O-Os with confidence
Is Tartakower the most based chess player? Almost all my openings I play are called "... Tartakower variation".
>rape her in the opening>make a subpar plan on move 15 (a4) but it's fine cos I'm still winning>she just straight up sacs her bish>I get distracted as we're 20 minutes in now and overlook the knight fork>blunder like ten times in a row afterwards because I lost focus>she blunders her rook>should be winning now>loseit's the same fucking pattern as yesterdayalso I got flustered by the fact that I had less time than her so that was possibly one reason for my midgame blunders. I guess 15+10 might be too fast for me
Anyone I beat is a scrub and doesn't count. Anyone else have this problem?
Do you accept draws in drawn king + pawn vs king positions? I just had this, declined the draw and eventually he fucked up and I won. Understandably my opponenet was raging and let the time run out.
>>79719175Yeah and that doesn't work anyway. There was a point where my opening theory was way ahead of my positional and tactical ability. Common eval graph was slowly winning then piss it away towards the back half of the middle game and enter the endgame completely lost short of a catastrophic blunder by opponent.
>>79721584If you have to ask that question, you are not yet at the elo where you should ever accept draws.
>>79719704Shitter version i face most often of it consists of fianchetto both bishops then aggressively push all of the pawns and never castle. I enjoy the 'i want this piece to move' single pawn push that just gives away the pawn for free.
>>79721635It was 2100 lichess rapid
>>79721584Only if I know (or can calculate to come certainty) that it's a theoretical draw or a losing position for me.
ATTENTION!THERE WILL BE A 10+2 RAPID TOURNAMENT THIS SUNDAY AT 16:00 GMTCOME FOR THE MEMESSTAY TO DAB ON CHESS NOOBS
Why is everyone so good in anon lichess games?
>>79722409I think everyone is afraid of the 2000+ dudes so the only people who join them are the 2000+ dudes themselvesYou get weaker people in other boards
already have 6 lost endgames in my endgame study lichess study but most of them seem more complex than the elementary stuff in silman. how long will I have to grind until I can win these? I wanna become an endgame machine
>>79722652All endgames are more complex than the basic endgames. That's the point. You use the knowledge of the basic endgames as a foundation for the more complicated ones. For example, if you know which king and pawn endgames win, that'll help you in king rook pawn endgames because you'll know when the rook trade favors you.
I'm making an actual opening repertoire for the first time. I plan to use it for a long time so I chose fun and/or instructive lines.For White I'm gonna main 1.e4 and once i study some d4 theory I'll sprinkle in some of that.Now Black's responses:>e5Ruy Lopez>e6Nc3 French/Winawer>d5no even gonna bother>d6Austrian Attack>c6Panov Attack>c5 variants:>DragonYugoslav Attack>NajdorfMain line Bg5 stuff>ScheveningenKeres Attack>Four KnightsI'll take on c6 and push e5>KanBd3>Classical SicilianSozin Attack>TaimanovNc3 + Be2>Accelerated DragonMaroczy BindFor Black since I still haven't touched 1.d4 theory I'll just play some classical QGD and against 1.e4 I'm gonna play either the Dragon or good old 1...e5. Some lines I like:>Ruy LopezMarshall Attack>King's Gambitaccept and play d6>anything elseI'll just go with the flowThoughts?
>>79722467Well if most of them are that high rated i feel a bit better. I don't always get blown out. Just most of the time.
>>79722671I hate rook endgames so much.
>>79722744>Black since I still haven't touched 1.d4 theory I'll just play some classical QGDGive the benoni a shot. It can be fun. Sometimes. Most people don't enter the official starting position though (white pushes d5). Which is kind of weird. Lots of people will play advance caro but not benoni.
>>79722652>I wanna become an endgame machinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1SCXb2WA2U
>>79722744>sprinkle in some d4 theoryAbsolutely not. You need to learn a repertoire and stick to it. That's how you improve in the opening. Only play other stuff once you master (at least half a year to a year of consistent play) what you already play.>Nc3 Frenchbased>Ruybased and Bobbypilled>open Siciliansbased>panov-botvinnikbased and GM-pilled>austrian attack sigmapilled>not set repertoire to play vs the Alekhine and Scandifine with me, I like taking freelos from pubbies like you>classical QGDYou'll want something more active - take your pick from the following: Nimzo-Indian, King's Indian, Dutch, QGA, Chigorin, Albin Countergambit, Benko Gambit, Benoni. All your openings are active, aggressive, mainline stuff, and then you pick the fucking QGD, where Black is solid but passive. It's stupid.>1 e5 or the DragonWhatever you do, don't do both. They're both theory-heavy main lines, so pick one and master that. With that in mind, based selections from a true chess connaisseur.
>>79722747Well somebody just stalemated me with queen and bishop so there are certainly some shitters in the mix.
>>79719897>>79719730>gets tricked into the KIDLmao, nothing personnel
>>79722744>I'll take on c6 and push e5The line that loses a pawn to Qa5+? >Marshall attackvery based, but you'll rarely get it, probably.
>>79723316You can't be tricked into the regular KID via the Pirc, because 2 d4 is met with Nf6 and you need to defend the pawn. How will you do that? Nc3 blocks you from playing c4, and Bd3 and f3 are inferior tries. You might have to play a Benoni structure as Black, but he has a good version and has no issues.And after 2 c4 Nf6, it's the same issue: how do you defend your pawn? Either d3 or Nc3 - and you're not in the KID.
>>79722797Noted. Thanks for the suggestion.>>79722903I used to play KID a lot without knowing any theory and it just didn't feel intuitive to me. I think choosing it as a first opening really hurt my progress in the long run. Nowadays I play the Chigorin but it feels a little gimmicky and unsound; it is a lot of fun but the games just don't last long often enough to be meaningful. Hence my choice to go with the pure vanilla QGD.But otherwise I agree that I need to look into other choices. It's just a placeholder for now>>79723381>The line that loses a pawn to Qa5+?Pic related is the position I was referring to
https://lichess.org/training/41291934These kind of puzzles always make me giggle.
>>79723530Yeah the KID is definitely not an opening you want to go into if you dont know pages and pages of theory. But definitely look for something active to complete your repertoire. All of the options I listed are good.I don't think the Chigorin can be unsound - if it's good enough for Ben Finegold, it's good enough for us mortals. Then again, I play the Dutch Defense, so maybe I have a slightly different idea of what 'unsound' means. If you insist on the QGD, the best I can recommend is the Triangle System, Botvinnik Semi-Slav, because at least that's a dynamic setup for Black. But that's also very theory-heavy.
>>79723602attraction and deflection are very fun desu
>>79722744>>e5>Ruy Lopeztoo much theory and weirdnessplay the Scotch>>e6>Nc3 French/Winawertoo much theoryplay the ez system against the french>>d5>no even gonna botherk>>d6>Austrian Attackaustrian attack works only against the pircyou dont need theory to fight the pirc (or the philidor) just play good>>c6>Panov Attackaccelerated panov is better if you know how to play an IQP >>c5 variants:>>Dragon>Yugoslav Attack>>Najdorf>Main line Bg5 stuff>>Scheveningen>Keres Attack>>Four Knights>I'll take on c6 and push e5>>Kan>Bd3>>Classical Sicilian>Sozin Attack>>Taimanov>Nc3 + Be2>>Accelerated Dragon>Maroczy Bindcringejust play the smith morra or alternatively the alapin if they go for it
>>79723972>too much theory and weirdnessthe spanish is one of the most intuitive openings lol
>>79723972>too much theory>play the Kasparov opening instead>"too much theory, you dont need theory just play good" as a reply to someone explicitly making a repertoireYou have no good reasons for disagreeing with his repertoire and have actively worsened the quality of the thread with your inane contribution
>>79724157these pawn pushy bullet games stress me out!
>>79723530>I used to play KID a lot without knowing any theory and it just didn't feel intuitive to me. I think choosing it as a first opening really hurt my progress in the long run.KID is definitely tough as one of your first openings to learn. Easy to get overwhelmed and white doesn't even need to put much effort in to the attack to cause problems for newbie KID players. Its better with more experience. Not my style but it's playable.
>>79724157Haha. Those are the kinds of things i enter a long think against on move two. Can't imagine how i would beat it in a boolet game. Probably blow up with half my stuff undeveloped just like black did there.
>>79720439Castle into mate with confidence
me making any move in the endgame
>>79724837I know this feel. Just yesterday i gave away a dead draw, let pawn through, game over.
>>79723654>I don't think the Chigorin can be unsoundIt's not; but it feels that way. I just don't like giving up the centerAlso, now that I think about it, the Semi-Slav is a much better fit for my repertoire. I'll make that switch. Thanks>>79723972>too much theorydoesn't scare me>accelerated panovI don't know much about the Panov, but i'll look into it>smith morrainteresting, might be a good surprise weapon.>alapinwhy would i avoid the sicilian?
>>79725304Smith morra isn't going to surprise any sicilian player. It's a common thing to face.
>>79725442but has everyone read the Esserman book?
>>79725520they don't need to read the esserman book when they can just transpose into the alapin
>>79725520Absolutely not. :D
do you really need to pirate chessbase to make an opening repertoire?
>>79719118Not him but I actually have better luck playing lines that are out of fashion. Sure some line from the 70s is "refuted" by the computer, but the GMs in the 70s couldn't figure it out and neither can anyone I'm ever going to play against.
the new move time graph on lichess has more information, but is also kind of ugly
>>79719897Nice videos, thanks.
>>79723512Yasser was actually tricked into the KID by Kasparov though. https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1070409Sure this is not the most critical line with the saemisch, but its still decent.
>>79719897Ben Finegold did a lecture on Yasser a while back also. It was really good, and I really like Yasser's style.
>>79726261>Not him but I actually have better luck playing lines that are out of fashionThat's my experience playing the ponziani. Kinda sketchy opening but rarely get punished for any of its inherent weaknesses. Thankfully it didn't catch on among the shitter horde despite eric rosen playing it a lot for a few weeks a while back. Still has novelty advantage.
>>79726261>Sure some line from the 70s is "refuted" by the computer, but the GMs in the 70s couldn't figure it out and neither can anyone I'm ever going to play against.if you're going to apply that horrible logic to opening choice then the flip-side has to be considered: you're not gonna' play as well as a GM from the '70s. you're going to be playing against someone who is close to you in skill and they'll be at an advantage because you chose a sub-optimal line >>79726101>do you really need to pirate chessbase to make an opening repertoire?pirating (or even buying) chess programs and running engines on them with decent processing power... for whatever reason that's something that only good players do. bad players refuse to do it they prefer the less committal buying a premium membership on a chess site which is also fine. as long as the opening books are good and up to date it's just a matter of preference how you enjoy viewing them>>79723972disregard all of this information it's nonsense from a bad player who knows zero about openings>>79722903>You need to learn a repertoire and stick to it.this is the most important advice for players sub-2000. only exception to it is if you're playing hot garbage like the grob then you need to change everything ASAP. but you have to play the same openings and the same structures over and over again or else you're not going to get betterthe idea of playing 5 different systems vs 1. e4 .... that's super-GM and genius territory do not fucking attempt to do that in actual tournament games. if you're having fun in blitz/bullet obviously that's different>>79722744one of the more retarded posts i've seen ehre recently of course it has a "I AM UNORIGINAL" pic attached to itkid, you fucking describe all these specific lines you're gonna' play (which you don't even know how to set up) and then on the subject of Black vs. 1.d4 ? "durrr i'll just try to figure my way out" .the definition of dumb
>>79718671Oh yeah I remember watching his catalan video back in the day.
(2/2)>>>79719245>Grandmasters tend to agree that theory is increasingly killing the game, especially after AI engines.total nonsense myth narrative statement that gets repeated by 1000-rated players. not only is it inaccurate it's not even intelligible. do you have any idea how many GM's there are in the world? it's 1,721...how could you possibly sum up their opinion? did you take a survey of them? like what the fuck are you even talking about kiddon't speak for GM's or pro players or even CM's. you have no experience in the world and people who do don't appreciate you talking shit that will push people away from the gameat best you'll be able to find a handful of quotes from a handful of GM's. and then i'll quickly find 100 quotes that go in the opposite direction>It's increasingly about learning by heart rather than actually playing.then why are people losing out of book? shouldn't they be losing to opening traps or when the game is still in book? surely you're not including endgame mistakes which we see constantly at the super-GM level>That's why Bobby invented Fischer random to begin with.bobby invented fischer random because he was a lonely tortured destroyed virgin who had pissed away everything and genuinely believed the whole world was hunting him down to be tortured and killed. it's a sad, sad, sad life and mindset
>>79727434Speaking of the ponziani, Solomon Ruddel has a good series on it on youtube. It's trappy and has shades of scandi type situations where you will get your queen chased around a bit (which is theory) but there are some nice tactics that follow from it, and not super common tactics that everyone has seen a thousand times before. I think it's a great blitz opening at all but the very top level. Not as good in longer rapid or classical where there is time to calculate thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNxz6w0fmys
>your opponent would like to chat>x: I should stick to gardening!Okay buddy I won't shittalk you now
I hate the intro melody of saint louis chess club.
>sac bishop epicly>opponent plays right into trap and i win easily, even seeing several other alternative ways to win along the way>stockfish says i was losing badly up until three turns before checkmate
>>79727455>the idea of playing 5 different systems vs 1. e4 .... that's super-GM and genius territoryI think having two defenses for e4 and d4 each can spice things up and it doesn't require any superpowers. But ok>you fucking describe all these specific lines you're gonna' play (which you don't even know how to set up) andWhat are you implying? I've gone over some master games and common responses to 1.e4 and these are the lines that caught my eye.>on the subject of Black vs. 1.d4 ? "durrr i'll just try to figure my way out" .the definition of dumbI clarified in my later posts that I do have some specific openings in mind but it needs more study and research. Obviously I need to fill in the gaps so I'm open to suggestions
>1. d4>black plays g6>okay prepare for KID, initiate my usual Saemisch response>black fianchettos but instead of playing knight out goes b6>okay modern then>type in chat 'I thought you were going to play the king's india'>'the what?'>'the king's indian defense'>never heard of itWeird. My rating isn't THAT low that people don't at least know the names of popular openings if not the theory. He was okay. He didn't get mated in the middle of the board as some of my games against the modern have gone. Pic related is the starting position of the Saemisch. It's very good against the KID and not hard to play for white.
>>79728361theory dont matter until FM levelthough at GM level it's just a theory battle
Want a clear attacking ideas? Go for budapest!
>>79722744>>79722903If he chooses the Nimzo ( great choice ), he'll need something to pair it with if White plays Nf3, Queen's Indian is pretty based for that.
>>79728326Depends what you mean by two defenses. For example if you mean the Dragon to mean in the Open Sicilian you will go for the Dragon that is fine, you just need to know what to do vs a Closed Sicilian, the Moscow, Alapin, Prins etc. Those can still be part of your "Dragon", but those are played differently and need to be prepped for.d4 gets even more tricky with move order considerations because of transpositions. If you are not careful with your repertoire, you can walk into some shit you never dreamt of seeing.
pros of the two knights defense:>avoids the evans gambit and the c3-d4 italians>can lead to cool gambit lines if white plays Ng5>white will probably be out of book if you don't blunder with Nxd5cons:>mostly still leads to the mainline italian with d3 and c3 (or worse, Nc3)
>>79729977honestly, that'd be some dope drip if not for the basketball shorts...
>>79730069she plays the philidor definitely
>the dutch """defense"""
>>79730968Why yes, I do play all three of the Dutch Counterattacks. How could you tell?
How come nobody plays the Chad Queen's Indian?
>>79731169>few people online know much theory>fewer still play d4>fewer still play c4 as wellFrom that point learning two defenses seems like giving yourself extra homework
>>79731169there's some pawn sac line that's really hard to play for black, or something like that, so most people just play the QGD to avoid it.
>gets married>spends entire honeymoon working on chess problems>wife gets pissed and glues all the pieces to the board>they stop living together after a week and get divorced three months later>continues playing chess constantlyBased.
>>79710177Remember the alphago spurdo
I got destroyed by the albin counter gambit yesterday and took a look at the line just now. I correctly guess the first two moves correctly but after that it all fell apart. To start: take on e5. To avoid altogether: change your move order to 1. d4 2. Nf3 3. c4. The Albin doesn't look too scary if the first several moves are correctly played by white but I think I will switch to doing the 2. Nf3 order in future anyway. Nf3 doesn't seem to have much drawback.
>>79732259>I correctly guess the first two moves correctly but after that it all fell apartI am not proud of this sentence.
>>79732235I even got the time in the video in the screenshot in 2016, I'm the greatest
>>79732286and the link because I'm the coolest there ever was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUAmTYHEyM8
>>79731242I think the vast majority of people who don't play it don't know about it. If they do, it's not much reason to worry, here's the big problem at the top level: 1. d4 Nf62.c4 e63. Nf3 b64. g3 Ba65. Qc2! Bb76. Bg2 c57. d5Stats are lichess >2200 Rapid + Classical, it's the same with Blitz in there and if you include lower levels. Admittedly in the Master DB this really is a problem but no worse than any number of other lines that see play, statistically.But as we learned from >>79727455 since we don't play as well as GMs, we need to avoid this sub-optimal opening.(Note that playing the 70s mainline 4…Bb7 avoids this, but it's too drawish at top levels to see much play these days, so can't do that either. Gotta worry about all these constant draws down here at amateur level.
>>79731169It was refuted by Alpha zero long time ago, how late are you to the party bro?
playing CrazyHouse as black is masochism https://lichess.org/WwPVWzXJ#55
side effect of my calculation practice has cropped up. i find it easiest to look at the game in reverse and first calculate what the best things my opponent has available are, then I think about what is best move for me in light of those. then during a couple games I got the seeing the ghosts thing. for some reason thinking they played a sequence I calculated and making moves on that basis, but they never played the thing, so i'm attacking a piece that isn't there, defending a threat that doesn't exist and won't now. weird feel.
>>79719320>>79719541The advantage of learning theory is MUCH more apparent at lower skill levels.Stop talking out of your ass.
>>79726261That's because of this: >>79733785
>>79727540>total nonsense myth narrative statement"I think in general the future of classical chess as it is now is a little bit dubious. I would love to see more Fischer [Random] Chess being played over-the-board in a classical format." —Magnus Carlsen, November 2020"I think we're making theory or even making history because we're opening not even a new chapter but basically a new book on the game of chess. That's why I think all players are excited." —Garry Kasparov, September 2018"To me, mainly chess is art — that's why I like Fischer Random a lot; there is a lot of creativity." —Wesley So, November 2019"In my opinion, we should start moving towards Chess960, just like we started to generate energy with renewable energy sources a while ago. If we start now, then by the time it reaches a crisis point, we will have a viable alternative ready." —Srinath Narayanan, August 2017"If all the chess professionals played Fischer Random, our game could have been much more popular." —Alexander Grischuk, March 2018"It’s a game I really love and I see it as the future of chess." —Levon Aronian, July 2011"I think chess960 is great as it is simply pure intuition and understanding without theory or computers." —Hikaru Nakamura, February 2014"Personally, It is refreshing to watch the Chess960 match between Carlsen and Nakamura. As a chess player and a fan, this is an exciting change. Could this be the future?" —Vidit Gujrathi, February 2018"No more theory means more creativity." —Artur Yusupov"[...] the play is much improved over traditional chess because you don't need to analyze or memorize any book openings. Therefore, your play becomes truly creative and real." —Svetozar Gligorić"Finally, one is no longer obliged to spend the whole night long troubling oneself with the next opponent's opening moves. The best preparation consists just of sleeping well!" —Péter Lékó
>>79727540>>79733787And of course, let's not forget Fischer himself:"I don't know when, but I think we are approaching that [the end of chess] very rapidly. I think we need a change in the rules of chess. For example, I think it would be a good idea to shuffle the first row of the pieces by computer ... and this way you will get rid of all the theory. One reason that computers are strong in chess is that they have access to enormous theory [...] I think if you can turn off the computer's book, which I've done when I've played the computer, they are still rather weak, at least at the opening part of the game, so I think this would be a good improvement, and also just for humans. It is much better, I think, because chess is becoming more and more simply memorization, because the power of memorization is so tremendous in chess now. Theory is so advanced, it used to be theory to maybe 10 or 15 moves, 18 moves; now, theory is going to 30 moves, 40 moves. I think I saw one game in Informator, the Yugoslav chess publication, where they give an N [theoretical novelty] to a new move, and I recall this new move was around move 50. [...] I think it is true, we are coming to the end of the history of chess with the present rules, but I don't say we have to do away with the present rules. I mean, people can still play, but I think it's time for those who want to start playing on new rules that I think are better." —Fischer (September 1, 1992)
>>79727540>>79733787>>79733788"The changes in chess concern the perfection of computers and the breakthrough of high technology. Under this influence the game is losing its charm and reducing more and more the number of creative players. [...] I am a great advocate of Fischer's idea of completely changing the rules of chess, of creating a practically new game. It is the only way out, because then there would be no previous experience on which a machine could be programmed, at least until this new chess itself becomes exhausted. Fischer is a genius and I believe that his project would save the game." —Ljubomir Ljubojević
You guys do do the customary knight swap at the beginning of each of your games to show courtesy to your opponent, don't you?
Ponziani opening played by an Italian:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hfiGge9RdIif you follow channels in languages not in English let me know; French, Spanish, Italian and Portuguese in particular
>>79733787>>79733788problem isn't GM'sGM's want to make the switch to 960problem is average club players, they are the ones preventing this change
>>79733785>learn 30 moves of GM theory>opponent deviates from main lines on move 8 because he didn't learn 30 moves of GM theory>lose because the opponent spent his time improving tactically/strategically instead of learning 30 moves of GM theory>learn 30 moves of GM theory >opponent somehow plays into it>lose by hanging a pawn in a positionally slightly favourable endgame
>>79733788what was Fischer opinion on CrazyHouse?
>>79734127'Crazyhouse is like shogi, it's ok but it's not Chess' Robert Fischer 1982
>>79733981You speak all those languages? Out of those I only know Spanish.
>>79734064>>learn 30 moves of GM theory>>opponent deviates from main lines on move 8 because he didn't learn 30 moves of GM theory>>lose because the opponent spent his time improving tactically/strategically instead of learning 30 moves of GM theoryThat's not how this works.
>>79734431it's exactly how it works theoryfagcope
>i'm constantly studying opening theory why have i been stuck at 1800 for the last two years
>>79735290The whole point of theory is that you learn the absolute best possible moves by heart.If someone deviates from that, they are automatically at a disadvantage all else being equal.Can they still win?Absolutely, thanks to the exact thing that GMs say is brought out more by Fischer random: actual skill and creativity.
>>79735470That's what he just said you absolute imbecile.
round 6 is about to start:https://grandchesstour.org/2021-grand-chess-tour/2021-superbet-chess-classic/pairings-resultshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OOMrRSmPc
>>79735538>someone with vastly superior skill can still win against a noob who knows theoryNo shit.To gauge the effect of theory, you need to compare players with similar skill levels, where one knows more theory.
>>79735554>To gauge the effect of theory, you need to compare players with similar skill levels, where one knows more theory.you don't need to do that dumbass, it's common sensewhen players play with an average centipawn loss of 60 it doesn't matter if they made the first theoretical inaccuracy or even mistake
I'm trying to master the rook and king endgame.First read about it here:https://lichess.org/study/wukLYIXj
>>79735674What the fuck are you even babbling about.Between players with comparable skill, the player with the most knowledge of theory has a huge advantage.Which is why GMs in general are very excited about something like Fischer random. Because they know classical chess is being killed by engine-supported theory.
that was a weid matehttps://lichess.org/YwyQVbpB/black#36
>>79735692>What the fuck are you even babbling about.it's just math
>>79735727The math is this: between players with comparable skill, the player with the most knowledge of theory has a huge advantage.Which is why GMs in general are very excited about something like Fischer random. Because they know classical chess is being killed by engine-supported theory.
>>79735546any backstory on that huge ring that Wesley has?
>>79735546is DGT ok to have their label covered on the boards? I bet they got some extra money for that
>>79735680You just keep the king quarantined in an ever-shrinking quadrant, with your king closing the distance diagonally and the rook catching up.
>>79735892It's not that simple retard. You're white and black keeps moving back and forth between a7 and b7.
>>79736004king to b5, rook to c6
how do I copy the fucking pgn in lichess???!!!
>>79735892>>79736004Or of it's white to move in that exact position, rook to c7 first.Like I said, keep closing in the quadrant with the rook, with the king as close support.
>>79736019Why? This is better:https://lichess.org/DFBNcnTm>>79736208retard
>>79736244There are millions of ways to get a checkmate from this position: >>79736004
>>79736259no there aren't
>>79736200to copy: it's below the board after you click on analysis at the end of the gameto paste it:https://lichess.org/paste
>>79736309Are you retarded?Also, the point was that it's "not so simple" to checkmate from this position: >>79735680In fact it's almost impossible to fuck it up.
>>79736004Even just Rb1 works here holy fuck how are you wasting time on this? The only reason you'd want to practice this is to be able to pretty much premove it.
>just reached 1500 ELO in Lichess after being a sub IQ 1400 shitter for monthsI'm always only playing London (White) and French (Black) but I want to learn some new openings since opponents on higher rankings use various meme openings that I don't know and get memed by traps
Maybe someone can explain this in a way I can understand - how is it possible that there is a single move that wins for white here while everything else draws? Shouldn't I at least have reserve tempi in choosing whether to double-move my pawns or not? Is there some key square I need to be reaching before my opponent?
>>79736527>I'm always only playing London (White) and French (Black)you need to get out of your comfortable zone if you want to improve fastalso you are 1500 lichess, learning openings is not importantplay e4 as white and e5 as black if you want to improve fastestyou may see a 50 point dip though to begin with, don't worry about it - it's an investment
>>79736493no, that's stalemate retard
Have they nerfed Sven or something ?
>>79736986wtf is wrong with your brain?
here's today's tactic
MVL bros, not again. All that candidates prep, and for nothing.
>>79736986In case you're not trolling, I think you have a conceptual misunderstanding about how you should be looking for checkmate in these endgames.There's basically 1 arrangement of pieces where White can get checkmate. Figure that out, visualize it, then make it happen. Don't just autopilot dumbass moves to "shrink the box" without thinking.
>>79737453a6 Qe2 Bxc2 Qf2 Nb3? Queen must go to e2 unless you want to lose it, and if it doesn't go to f2 you get mated or forked.
>>79737469So apparently he forgot his prep and mixed up the moves. What happened to our guy bros?
>>79737223>>79737363>>79737472>>79737589Then what the fuck do you suggest is the move after rb1? Rb1 is shit. Rc7 is the only good move.
>>79737824https://lichess.org/analysis/8/k7/8/K7/8/8/8/2R5_w_-_-_0_1#0It's equally good.
>>79737824I'm not gonna tell your because you're legit retarded and rude, so go fuck yourself.
>>79737824Why would I tell a like 100 rated guy who called me a retard? :^)
>>79737824Rb1 is mate in 3 retard
>>79736004If the black king is on a7, Rc7+ is the way to go. If the black king is on b7, play Rc2. Now the king is forced to give ground. Either he goes back to a7, and you get Rc7+, or he goes to the 8th rank, and you move your king to either a6 or b6. Rinse and repeat until checkmate.
>>79737692r2qkb1r/ppp2ppp/2n5/1QnpPb2/8/P1N2N2/1PPP2PP/R1B1KB1R b KQkq - 0 1you can check for yourself, there are winning lines with a6 tootext line was simply Bd3 Bxd3 a6 which is enough to win
>>79738856Oh I like that line, at like 24 depth the engine says a6 is best but my line is just -2 or so, I missed d4.
>play 97% accuracy game>looseFuck chess.
>>79736986If you're playing Rb1 there you need your king off the a file, proceed with standard mate pattern from there. I'm not sure I get the point of this. Unless you're in time trouble without increment there isn't any need to do this in the most precisely efficient way possible.
>>79738963>plays on chess.com>is never gonna make itsad, many such cases
>>7973929430 centipawn loss if that pleases you
As useless as I think those stats are, I wonder what the average centipawn loss is for these people who think Black getting out of the opening with a +0.3 (i.e. 30 centipawns) advantage for White makes an opening busted and unplayable.
tfw your rating's inflated so you just lose every game
>>79738963I had a 91.5 accuracy me loss to 91.4 accuracy recentlyit was the exchange french which makes it bascially impossible for anything to happen and I only blundered in the endgame so centipawn loss was low lol
>let's draw arrows, it helpshttps://youtube.com/shorts/wZAvUgwTeWM
Today I won against the benoni defence for the first time. Whenever I played it I got tilted because the board is so cramped. But I got a relatively strong center this time. The only mistakes in this game were Be2 and Qa4 I think.
Chessable course on the philidor by LORD PEPE is out. Free soon I think.
Do you people like to read studies on lichess?
>>79741587Yes, the few good ones can be really helpful. But don't be a dick and turn off cloning, it's really helpful to be able to add your own notes as you work through a study.
Ponziani is such a memehttps://youtube.com/shorts/w6MVDh0JxUc
>>79741713>black plays ne7there's the first mistake
>>79736004Rc6 is what I’d play.
Thirty-two seconds well spent.
>>79734064You didn't actually learn the theory if you don't understand why the deviations don't work.
ITT: people vastly overestimate how big a mistake most deviations from the mainline are
>>79732647I think that is an oversimplification.
>>79741587I just save a couple and there's an idea on like move 13 of the mainline caro I liked from one of the studies from that one FM. I even managed to play it in a rapid game once and it is now one of my highest rated puzzles from my games on lichess because I could've won.
>>79742258t. the Pirc experience
Dumb retard forgets to post the link to the rapid tourney>that retard is mehttps://lichess.org/tournament/Z35fpWRb
Is Mio done with Dylan? It's Friday.
>>79733981Hearing a native italian pronounce ponziani is always satisfying
>>79734002for 960 to grow it will take some money. Best way is to host more tournaments to incentivize top players to put more time in to it, get more coverage, and introduce more people to it. The problem is chess is a niche game as far as spectating interest is concerned and nobody knows how long the boom will last. Could be just a short lived fad and we'll go back to the numbers it had before all this.
CB has a news round-up show with lawrence trent and arne kaehler that nobody watcheshttps://youtu.be/dOSlRiPAfGccurious to see if i'm obsessed enough with the boring chess scene to watch an hour of this
>>79740000So you just lose down to whatever rating you start to win again. No biggie. And don't obsess over the number. Gut gud, number go up. If it's a struggle you're just going to wind up a little higher than you should be and have to repeat this process.
>>79740908Nice. Since I started playing the benoni I have had white play this shitty pawn push a few times. First time I saw it I didn't see a good way to take that pawn so I looked it up. Stockfish likes going after it immediately as in pic related. Move knight there then hop straight back to collect pawn. Ignoring the pawn and letting it sit there in to the middle game (which I did that first time) is a bad idea.
>>79744372The benoni is such a fantastic opening. I'm already to booked up on the KID though, but somehow these fianchetto openings against d4 are all so cool. Maybe except the QID but I know nothing about it.
>>79744992Bullshit, how did that guy fuck up a K+P vs K.
>>79708290>tfw no ChessQueen gf...