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edition footsies under the board

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>>78984297
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this thread edition book on rotation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Chess_Openings
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>opponent sends takeback request
>don't see why, but it makes me look >eventually find the winning tactic
Thanks bro, much appreciated.
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>>79004754
>opponent sends takeback request
>I accept it and he greatly improves his position
>5 moves later I send a takeback request for a silly miss-click
>he rejects it
mfw
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>>79004865
looks like you learned your lesson
you can set move confirmation btw, zero misclicks, and if I get in severe time trouble I just start pressing enter after every move
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>>79004712
https://ratings.fide.com/profile/875813
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>>79004719
Wow, Blitz players are really making me scratch my head right now. How in the world can you be near 1800 in Blitz, have a puzzle rating that barely scratches 1700 on Lichess, barely be above 1700 in other time controls, yet still play like you're Tal's slightly less talented drunken brother when I play you? I'm not going to accuse people of cheating, but really? Honestly. What makes these players so fucking good at Blitz when I wipe the floor with them in all other time controls? They play like retards, but for some reason they're just really good at hitting shit with a hammer and everything is a nail to them.
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>>79004865
Never, ever, ever, accept (or request) a "takeback". A man that will take back a move in a boardgame will pick your pocket, steal your kid's Christmas presents, and fuck your wife while you're away on deployment.
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>>79005031
I think somebody should introduce her to my good friends Shampoo and Conditioner.
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>>79004719
>footsies under the board
Allegedly during one of their matches Korchnoi and Petrosian were kicking themselvs so badly arbiters had to install a plank under the table to separate them.
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>>79005411
I know what you mean, I just demolished this guy in classic with all sorts of tactics (I'm 1750) and yet he's 2100 in Blitz. I can only assume these guys are letting their little brothers play or something
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>>79005614
1380 Rapid, 2124 Blitz. Holy shit. This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not even unusual.
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>yfw your older sister films your mons pubis
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Did hikikomori nagasaki always look like a hobo or did Magnus break him?
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>>79005742
Their mic is fucking garbage aren't they millionaires already fix that shit
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Can someone explain the appeal of blitz and bullet to me?
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>>79005896

Contempt for viewers is in their blood, as Eastern Europeans.
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>>79005919
Its a rush redlining your brain
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>>79005919
The games are over more quickly so you can play a ton of games. Plus when you're a strong enough player, the games are of decent quality.
I still think longer time controls are invaluable if you actually want to learn though.
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Why is it so hard to cross the next 100 elo rating? I've been 199x so often on lichess but I am unable to get 2000 and retire.
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>>79005919
adrenaline rush from pulling off shit with no time left

Also if like me you can be alright at rapid but pretty fucking terrible at blitz which means you get to play people who are weaker than you and have some very silly games
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Usually don't care about the one's I win, maybe I'm not strong enough to understand and "Blitz is Blitz", but does this game "stink" to anyone else? 3+0
>1. Uncommon opening by white
>2. Strange activity on kingside and weird G-file formation (This I'm just chalking up to inexperience, but it seemed odd)
>3. Consistent 5-7 seconds per move
>4. Critical blunder basically around alarm time and plays like the shit the rest of the way
Also feel to roast my absolute fail of a promotion. Still flagged him.
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My brain is burning from doing tactics puzzles
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>opponent played the philidor
>had them checkmated after 19 moves
I'm sorry d6 bros
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Some guy just dragged me through 40 moves of an endgame that was winning for me from start to finish.
What's worse is that I didn't play well throughout the game and just wanted to be done with it so I could get away from the shame, but I had serious troubles converting and the guy defended quite well.
Some wins just make you feel like shit...
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>>79006473
I will avenge him.
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>>79006483
Here's the game btw if any anons want to laugh at me, bonus points if you can guess my rapid rating.
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I started playing the ponziani as a gag but I'm scoring really well with it
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>>79004754
I'm re-enabling takebacks

>>79004865
this is why I didabled takebacks

>>79005486
you may think he's exaggerating, but it's not, these are only the lightest offenses a takebacker might do

>>79005411
>>79005614
>>79005681
I'm that guy, we don't calculate, if there is time allotted for calculation we simply hope the strong looking moves are correct. This is in fact enough for 2000 lichess.

>>79005919
CoD induced ADHD meets Chess, duh.

>>79006121
turn on zen mode and stop seeing your opponents as worthy adversaries. They are contemptuous filth that belong under a bridge with the rats.

>>79006473
Isn't it just obviously inferior to the modern?
>scores better for white
>shit development
>d6 sucks ass
>philidor sucked ass

>>79006483
play the game nerd stop chasing master-pieces
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Someone metioned Russian millionaire Levitov and his closed chess party, there's a video of it on his channel
https://youtu.be/B6VPEeIomm0
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>>79006693
>as a gag
it's not a joke opening, tho, it's very solid.
>scoring well
What were you playing before?
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I play only because of the misha meme. I'm a big dark souls/bloodborne/sekiro fan and started playing because I wanted to be so good at something that I also deserve a DS OST.
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There's been a lot of negativity about the philidor in this thread. For balance, here's a 2+1 bullet game I played yesterday where I won in 12 moves with it.
Yes, my opponent played like an absolute toad but I had to react actively.
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>>79007107
We've got a strong player here who plays the philidor. If you join the /chess/ tournaments, there's a chance you'll get philidored.
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>name a bigger meme
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>>79007323
Switching between DS and chess when you get frustrated is a surprisingly good way to blow off steam.
t. playing DS3 for the first time, currently getting my ass kicked by sister Friede
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>>79007418
great books
not for lazy sacks of shit though

also beautiful chess set, I wish the knight was visible too
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>>79007453
Good luck bro, there is nothing better than blind DS playthroughs.
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>>79007869
Yeah it's pretty good, my only regret is that the internet spoiled the thing with Gwyn's boss music in the final boss fight for me.
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opinions on takebacks?
I got a feeling that 9/10 people asking for them would never give one to you
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>>79008035
Turned the option off. The mechanic only exists to abuse it because you can freely move any piece.
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Is there anywhere I can get EXCLUSIVELY knight fork puzzles? This shit is just tiring at this point.
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>>79008035
I only accept it when it's obviously a mistake, which is why it exists. However, most people abuse it in my experience.
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how far can you go by just playing and when do you need to delve into the theory?
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>>79008035
it should be changed to a "one time undo" that doesn't need opponent's approval
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>>79009553
probably quite far if you hang out in chess forums/clubs like this and passively pick up knowledge and have people review your games

I don't know why you wouldn't take some time to study theory though, the less you know, the more impactful knowledge is
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I had this position in a game today. It was a 3+0 game and I had 1:20 left on the clock. I realized during it that it was just about the most dominating position I've ever had in my life, but I couldn't figure out a plan on how to improve it or attack further. I ended up frittering away my advantage entirely over the next several moves and was lucky to win on time in the end.

So the question is: what would your plan be in this position and what would you play?
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>>79009553
Possibly very far if you hypothetically had an infinite amount of time to learn from your experiences.

But it's not really a question worth asking, the whole point of structured learning is that you learn much faster than from trial and error because other people have already done all the trial and error for you.
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>>79006227
>Also if like me you can be alright at rapid but pretty fucking terrible at blitz which means you get to play people who are weaker than you and have some very silly games
On that note look at the shitters at my blitz rating.
I'm not better than these people lol
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>>79009869
I was thinking something like Nxd4 cxd4 Qb6, but I can't figure out the follow-up.
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>>79007418
>books
cringe, do they have a movie, instead?
>cute handwritten notation and guys, though
uwu
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>>79010139
>uwu
please god, spare me now.
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>>79005681
>1380 Rapid, 2124 Blitz. Holy shit. This is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not even unusual.
are you guys fucking stupid? do you understand the concept that a person can do whatever they want with their rating? there's nothing that stops a GM from playing games in 1100-1300 if he's sick enough to do it

if you think that someone who is legit' 2100 blitz could be legit' 1400 in rapid... got a few houses to sell you
>>79005919
>best players
>most games
>best games
>>79007193
no doubt he got his money the same way karpov and putin did... by stealing it from the russian people
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>>79010256
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>>79009346
>H6 avoiding the nf6 pin
>maintaining pressure on d5/e4
>very next turn d6
>fuck contesting the light squares
>fuck developing
>fuck king safety
>fuck everything except my LSB
Please tell me this was 2k+
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>>79009869
My plan was to look for a way to breakthrough with the queen on the queenside. The queen and the DSB seem like the more useless pieces here otherwise. So Bb1 almost trapping the rook.
Bb1, Rb2, Qxa4, Rxb1, Na1+.
If Kc1, Qc2#
If Kd2, Qa2+ at least gets you the exchange for that lone bishop and an easier attack with the queen infiltrating.
If Ke1, which was the trickiest, I think Nc2
If Kd1, Na3 gets you the rook and white can't go Kc1 to protect it because Qc2#,
so Kd2, and there Qa2 threatening discoveries looked good.

Just put this into the engine and it's far from the best but still like -6 in the last line.
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>>79010367
this is cringe, this is reddit, this is cringe, this is reddit.
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Daily reminder than 10+0 is blitz.
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>>79010256
I have no mercy to spare for the weak
unu
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>>79010376
Sorry mate, this is the power of 1400 lichess blitz.
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>>79010446
based hikaru poster
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Who’s gonna win?
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>>79010136
>>79010378

Both of these are probably better than what I played in the game.
The engine's suggestion makes a lot of sense and I can see why it's the best. One of black's only pieces that's not doing anything is the queen, so the engine's move ...Qb6! is very strong with the threat of ...Nxd4 followed by a devastating check on b1, very similar to one of the anon's ideas, just in the reverse order.
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>>79010588
Did you change the rapid arena date?
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i've never faced the actual smith morra. only people who after cxd4 play Qxd4
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>>79010950
I play it but I've also never learnt any theory on it beyond just using it to develop quickly because I've never stuck to e4 for that long.

Also last time I went back to e4 2/3 sicilian games had them opting for the alapin instead
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>>79010950
I will play it against u right now.
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>>79010998
>I play it but I've also never learnt any theory on it beyond just using it to develop quickly
that's basically all you need to know though

as long as you know how to play with the initiative and have a good tactical ability, it's fine
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>>79010376
>H6 avoiding the nf6 pin
The actual reasoning behind this move is even stupider. It's actually to avoid Ng5 (it's even called the anti-fried liver by most sites). It's a pointless move since black can just play anything but Nf6 and avoid it without making a pawn move.
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>>79010798
>very similar to one of the anon's ideas, just in the reverse order
My idea was to first sacrifice the knight to get the queen on the open file with tempo (kind of a pseudo clearance sacrifice, I guess), but I wasn't sure what to do after Qc1. Interestingly enough, I checked it with the engine and Qc1 does indeed kill the idea:
1...Nxd4
2. cxd4 Qg6
3. Qc1 Qb3+
4. Ke1 Qxa2
5. Rxd3
...And the pin along the c file kicks black's ass.
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Does that mean that for any rating system we all have to consider what is "natural" and "unnatural" for that system? What does that even mean? For one thing, classifying something as "natural" or "unnatural" is highly subjective and depends on the biases of the person doing the classification. What's "natural" to me might be "unnatural" to you and vice versa.

I don't think that you understand how the Elo rating system as implemented by FIDE works. A player gets a rating and updates his rating by playing in FIDE-sanctioned tournaments against other FIDE rated players. If his opponents are not FIDE-rated because their rating becomes lower than the ratings floor as a result of poor results, then for ratings calculation purposes that opponent is treated as an unrated player. Why should those rating points have "naturally left" the ratings pool?
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>>79010788
what do you do as black here
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>>79011249
Wait for white's move
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>>79005919
https://youtu.be/KVz-Q10ouoE
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>>79010998
>Also last time I went back to e4 2/3 sicilian games had them opting for the alapin instead
???
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>>79006483
Yeah, some games wear me out like I just did a bunch of brain burpees or something. I'm sure I don't play as well after those games. Takes time to recover because they're so tiring. Honestly, the mental energy it takes to play the game is the reason why I stopped caring about rating as soon as I hit my small monkey goal.
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>>79007418
I honestly believe most Chess books and courses are a waste of time for amateur shitters like me. The only reason you should do this to yourself is if you are legit enjoying the process going through them.
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I'm really struggling with attacking and play proactively just to be mated after a blunder. Was there a good opportunity to attack in this game which I missed? It felt like I was under constant pressure.
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>>79007323
>>79007453
DeS>DS>Bloodborne>Sekiro>that other garbage. I still love the original Demon's Souls. It might be my fave game of all time.
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>>79011834
I think they are good if you have a lot of free time. Let's say you are a NEET and don't have to worry for your well-being, maybe you are a millionaire or something, then you can just read books and have fun.
But if I have to wake up tomorrow to work I'm not reading some retarded book.
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>>79009553
You could probably get to expert level, but you would have to analyze the games you played and basically reinvent theory yourself. I don't know why you would do that. Tactics and calculation ability will take a person a long way.
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>think I'm going to get mated
>sacrifice a piece to save myself
>lose
>look at engine afterwards
>the piece sacrifice was totally unnesecary

I wish Lichess had a tactics puzzle for saving yourself from mates without losing material, not "save yourself while also winning material"

not my proudest game
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>>79009553
i reached 2300 blitz on lichess with minimal theory
only really have one line prepped against the french (am e4 player)
I do have a plan that fits my style against every single other thing I can face
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I'm doing it bros. I'm taking the c5 pill. No more Scandinavians, Alekhines, or Philidors for me. I'm learning the "Sam Sicilian" with the new Classical Sicilian course Sammy unleashed on Chessable. I know this sounds like something a shill would say, but I'm kind of excited about it. Any Sicilian bros want to share their thoughts or experiences playing the Sicilian? Or against it? It always annoyed me playing against it, so I figured I would just go over to the dark side.
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>>79012154
>c5
that's a square north from your destination
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>>79010928
Yes, thanks for pointing it out.
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>>79011620
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. c3 Nf6
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That quick learner pseud guy who played Carlsen after a month of learning chess now wants to get from 1100 to 2800 in a month
Thoughts?
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>>79012154
c5 is fine to face as white, no problem
i fear e5 the most
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>>79012191
You mean a square south lol
Otherwise black has to cheat and play 1.. C4
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>>79011620
But you say you went back to e4 but THEY opt for the alapin? I don't get it.
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>>79012154
I gave up the sicilian because I never got the mainline
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>>79012402
no wonder
sub-patzers think being good at chess just takes a month or two of learning the openings
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>>79012484
Declining the morra with those moves transposes into the alapin
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>>79012493
that's a good thing though
the mainlines are way harder to play against.
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>>79012512
Sorry for being twice as retarded by also replying to myself.
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>>79012402
>I will totally beat out any gm that worked their entire life on this game
>I only need a month
>just watch me
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>>79012520
If I'm playing an opening I want to actually be playing it and getting used to it.
White going 3. Bc4 is a decent position for black but I felt like it wasn't helping me learn anything except that position which will vanish as I get better and higher rated
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>>79012600
>White going 3. Bc4 is a decent position for black but I felt like it wasn't helping me learn anything except that position which will vanish as I get better and higher rated
such a backwards way of looking at it
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>>79012493
I'm kind of hoping for this actually. I play the Rossolimo, Moscow, and Delayed Alapin as White, so I'm hoping that I can learn more by playing both sides of those.
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>>79012732
>I play the Rossolimo, Moscow,
cuck variations
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what's the point of openings that give an advantage to the opponent? you just hope he doesn't know it?

https://www.chess.com/openings/Queens-Pawn-Opening-Blackmar-Diemer-Gambit
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>>79005411
If all you do is kamikaze attack you will get very good at it in time. That is why blitz players can wreck your shit much harder than their rating would suggest.
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>>79012758
They're great if you're low rated, aren't facing many sicilians yet and want to use your study time for other things than learning sicilians.
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>>79005411
I remember one based grandmaster who forbidden his class from playing bullet and blitz games because as he said this is not chess but contest on who taps the clock faster
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>>79012822
how hard is it to just play the smith morra and get your dudes developed and dab on people
>inb4 black can transpose to alapin
rarely and even then what's the big deal
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>>79012758
>>79012822
Yep, cuck variations, but ain't nobody have the time to master the Open Sicilian as White.
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>>79012889
you are a wuss
you dont need to 'master' them to not throw away your LSB and settle for a boring cuck position

cucks
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>>79012799
Yeah, basically you get free wins against weaker opponents and unprepared stronger opponents. In all other cases, you mostly get a playable position. One benefit to a repertoire built around the BDG is that you don't need to study much opening theory. I feel like these kinds of repertoires should be the #1 recommendation to busy adult improvers. How are you ever going to work on your endgame or tactics if 90% of your time is wasted studying that 1000+ variation LTR on Chessable?
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>>79006369
>Uncommon opening by white
That's just the london played in non standard order. As for fishyness, maybe. New account? Very fast climb in rating?
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>>79006369
it's just london system
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>>79006693
It's not a terrible opening, just not peak optimal. Good fun and worth playing if you want some novelty spice in most of your games. It also contains some disgusting traps.
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>>79008988
Lichess and chesstempo both have fork category. I'm not sure if there is option to further specify by piece.
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>>79012799
Because “giving the advantage” is only relevant to the extent that your opponent can capitalize on it. Often gambits lead to free play and quick attacks, so you could potentially score well with it.
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>>79012154
I respect the Classical Sicilian though I myself am a Kalashnikovbro. You should play whatever catches your fancy, play it for at least 6 months and get mastery of it! Chase your dreams, c5-anon-kun
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I heard a lot about the soviet chess, the soviet style of chess
What does that even mean
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When looking at master games, one of the biggest differences between them and shitter games at my rating seems to be that stronger players create complicated dynamic pawn structures. It makes sense, since weaker players are often afraid of entering positions that are conductive to lots of tactics. That being said, around what rating do people shift to this kind of playing style?
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>>79011846
It's hard to analyze a gif but it looks like you did fine. You had queen/bishop/rook vs queen/knight end game. That's a good matchup for you. Just let opponent through at the end is all.
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>>79011834
>>79011891
I am going through pic related as my first chess book and I'm really enjoying it.. it's comfy as shit how he writes in Socratic form. and yes, I went to work today.
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>>79013161
I tried the lichess one but it's just overcomplicated crap. I just want to drill knight forks so I don't play a hasty move and realize a second later that I blundered a fork.
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>>79013619
It helps that they have 90minutes to think. I've literally sac'd pieces to give myself easier positions to play when both me and my opponent were in time trouble.
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>>79007193
Nepo and dota again...sigh
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>>79013797
Try chesstempo or set puzzle difficulty on either to easy so you get all basic setups.
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>>79013740
Here's that game if you want to look further.
https://lichess.org/mXw8RfTW/black
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>>79012402
You'd think a quick learner would quickly learn that you can't get good at chess in a month

>>79012495
>sub-patzer
kek
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>puzzle
>come up with nifty sequence to win bishop and rook
>wrong
>it was mate in 2
:(
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>>79013797
lichess.org > puzzles > puzzle themes > fork
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>keep losing on time in 30+20

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>79009869
c, b and a pawns must march forward
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traditionally published writer here
the guy in my new story is a failed candidate master, he moves and starts teaching, discovers new love for chess
But I don't know shit about this game, I literally just learned how pieces move. It's about him growing up, not the game itself.
But I still need some source that will teach me how to describe games or some lessons without being retarded, are the starter books from OP any good? i'm looking for something descriptive
And yes, I'm trying to learn the game for the sake of the story but it's time cpnsuming
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>>79012402
He seems to dramatically underestimate the skill ceiling in this game, but I can see where he's coming from because the supposed "experts" in so many fields are essentially frauds. Only takes a man like Frank Abagnale to expose how little most "experts" need to know to go about their daily duties.
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>>79014665
What about trans, how many trannies play chess?
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>>79014665
if you count WGMs as fide masters and WIMs as candidate masters the numbers are slightly less lopsided
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>>79012411
I read once that when you face e5, they either know all the theory, or none of it. lol
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>>79013563
Soviets pretty much invented modern teaching methods for chess.
They taught it in classrooms and created textbooks that everyone worked from.
They put a lot of focus on endgames and solid positional play.
Some of this is an american misconception (like they believed that the soviets didn't learn openings until they were high rated which was untrue) but the general soviet style was typified by Karpov with his rock solid Caro Kann play.

A lot of the actual style stuff is a bit of a stereotype as soviet teachers actually encouraged students to play gambits and develop their attacking skills and they also did lots of work on tactical openings like the najdorf and benko/benoni but this is generally what people mean when they talk about soviet style.
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>>79014665
women are stupid
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>>79014632
Fastest way to learn that stuff is to jump in. Sigm up for a lichess account, lose a few games until your provisional rating puts you in with the other beginners, play, learn some basic tricks and tactics. Best way to learn how players talk about the game is to watch chess youtubers: John Bartholomew, Agadmator, Eric Rosen, Gothemchess, Chessbrah, Anna Rudolf, etc.
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>>79014760
WGM also generally overlaps with IM norms if you don't get it through winning your national women's championship
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>>79012495
>Woodchuk: Your average wood pushing patzer.
>Sub-Chuk: Sub-patzer synonym.
>Grischuk: GM.
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>>79014632
It will take months before you have a basic understanding of chess, and even then you're bound to make embarrassing mistakes when writing about it. Why don't you avoid diving into specifics, focus on the character and keep the chess talk contained to character motivations and overarching themes? It was good enough for Nabokov (who wasn't a bad chess player himself), it should be good enough for you.
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>>79014632
I recommend just watching John Bartholomew's YouTube videos on Chess if you're just trying to save time. No point in taking time away from your writing. That said, total immersion and playing the game is probably your most authentic bet.
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>>79014665
I used to know an old man on a basket weaving forum that would say, "Tits or GTFO."
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that's what you get for not resigning you piece of shit
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>>79015056
You're taking it a little personally. Sorry anon. I just wanted to play it out.
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lmao

Completely misclicked, to drop my knight for the sac here but managed to get back to equality from it anyway because my opponent wasn't accurate enough after it.
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>>79015056
That's a nice mate, anon.
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Am I completely retarded or is c7+ better than dxc6+?
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>>79015327
>Am I completely retarded
yes
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>>79015327
yes, youre pretty retarded but you at least gave me a good laugh
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>>79015327
It's black to move, that's not legal.
even if white plays something other than dxc6 that move isn't possible.
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>>79014747
What fields are you thinking of? I'm only really familiar with physics and maths and it's hard to believe you could master any of that all that fast. Even the child geniuses need time to take it all in.
>>79015327
It's black's turn so I guess.
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>>79015327
How are you going to c7+ while your pawn is on d5?
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>>79015365
>>79015371
>>79015379
>>79015380
>>79015400
I knew something look funny about that position
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>>79014665
>download the fide rating list to see how many female players there are total
>the formatting is fucked, must have opened it wrong
>remember i don't know how to use spreadsheet software in the first place
fug
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wtf i love playing against the fried liver now
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>>79015547
if white plays Bxf7+ instead of Nxf7 the position is just better for them.
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>>79015547
I also like this variation, but it has been refuted
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Why am I such a retard I keep coming back to this game?
Winning never feels very good, it feels normal, same as losing, there's slight defference, in the end, I'm just killing time, but when I lose in some stupid way (I'm a piece up and his arrogant dragging makes me so upset I blunder at +6 or something) it completely ruins my day and not even winning the next 3-4 games could help, that game would still haunt me. The only good thing about it is that it'll make me not want to play chess for a few days.
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>>79015563
>>79015565
most beginners who play fried liver don't know that though

Bxf7+ is viable to play against too
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>>79015633
Same
This game feels empty. I don't feel good after winning. Shouldn't I feel excited?
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>>79015633
>>79015654
ngmi
chess is not about feeling happy you daft cunts
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>>79015771
what's the point then
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>>79015825
It kills time.
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>>79015533
>try opening it in fake word since fake excel wouldn't display the entire list
>tfw it's still loading
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>>79015991
does it contain every single fide ranked player in the world of what?
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>>79015991
it's at 2000 pages now
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>>79016004
yeah.
the only reason i downloaded it was because fide doesn't have it listed easily on their website (just the top 100 from what i can see).
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>>79015825
It's cooperative puzzle-solving game. If you don't like Rubik's cubes or crossword puzzles then you should go play dota or halo or something idk dude. "winning" is a long term feeling of getting better and faster at problem solving. Frankly that's why I get irritated when people blitz out moves in a long game, it's less about learning and solving to them than it is about winning. Most people would rather win, where the goal is to get better.
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>NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T PLAY SICILIAN IF YOU HAVE ELO BELOW 2000
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY BORING E5 OR FRENCH
I'm a 1400 ELO scrub and have over 60% winrate when playing Sicilian as black
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we're all gonna make it, lads
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>>79016047
actually, fuck i'm blind
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>>79016095
>nooo how could you learn openings while being a beginner!
I literally got gud by studying openings and their tactics.
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>>79015327
Italian Game, Two Knights Variation, Polerio Defence
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>>79016121
Great job, anon-kun! I'm very proud of you. Now keep working at it, because there's no limits to the Winning Chess (tm) you can Play
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>>79016095
Pay no attention to chess personalities and anons who say any particular opening isn't beginner suitable. You're not going deep in to the theory of any opening you choose at that level so the tital depth of said theory is not a concern. It will be when you get better but by that time you should be well prepared to tackle the whole thing anyway.
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*blocks your path
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>>79016224
shogi is retarded
why do you think it's local while chess is international? because chess is simply superior
only retarded weebs think shogi could be even half as good as chess
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>>79015247
Isn't that the ponziani opening? I played that for a bit a long time ago, it's full of traps. Pretty fun opening
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Is Ivanchuk the way someone like Morphy or Capablanca would act?
https://youtu.be/pUgvAoTzWBA

He seems incredibly autistic and reminds me of a passionate CTO I knew by the way he speaks
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>>79005896
Not everyone is autistic enough to care
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>>79005919
1 minute bullet is a bit too fast but sometimes I rather not spend more than 5 minutes on a game
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>>79004865
Thats why i never accept takebacks, but never ask for them either. Live by the sword, die by the sword. No rematches, either.
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I will now join a bullet game and do completely random moves
Am I going to win? Bet and I'll will say how it went
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>>79016052
Get your head out of your ass, I like to win, but winning from finding a really nice combination feels great (or even just finding the combination, but losing after that sours it), winning after slowly outplaying your opponent feels good but while I feel pride in that, it's a less snappy feeling, and longer games also drain your mental energy more. Plus to me at least, slowly outplaying your opponent makes me tense because it's a process that demands full focus to not let the opponent any chances to get back into the game or whatever.
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>>79011477
So many blunders and putting pieces back into the wrong place.
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>>79016148
What is this a reference to? Yesser doesn't sound like that?
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>>79016271
Yeah. I don't really have a staple opening as white so I think I'm gonna play it or at least mix it in with the italian for now.

Quite like it because it gives me fairly similar games to the veresov which I've also played before.
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>>79016343
No
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>>79016289
simp detected.
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>>79016375
Turns out you post is uhh, uh a BLUNDER lmao annnd.... Anon.. is.. strategically lost :)
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>>79011477
Otb is a meme.
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>>79016421
>A simp is someone who isn't autistic about audio quality
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>>79016124
Okay, the fide site gives:
326743 male players
and
38672 female players
for 365415 total players (89% male, 11% female) (if this is right, chess is way more of a sausage fest than i thought it was)
male titled players / total males (using the data from >>79014665) = 4.6%
female titled players / total females = 0.5 %
female titled players (including women titles) / total females = 10.4 %
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>>79016247
Relax, no one is arguing that Shogi is better
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>>79016444
Don't you smile at me
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>>79016469
Why don't women play chess?
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>>79016463
a simp is anyone willing to defend streamers and youtube personalities. You MUST be a simp if you find these streams enjoyable.
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>>79016534
The guys are ugly and no one pushes them into the hobby
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>>79016559
ok
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Are women titles just a meme? I doubt they are as strong as normal titles.
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>>79016559
I'm an Alex simp but I don't like her streams actually.
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>>79016602
Meme as any other title. I mean chess is a meme
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>>79016602
They're just 200 elo lower.
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Daily reminder that there is not a single good reason to play over the board vs digital chess in 2021
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>>79016602
They're not 1:1 with the main titles but you still have to be strong to get them.
Dorsa Derakhshani said on one of the St Louis videos that once she decided to get the last norms and apply for her titles she got IM and WGM at the same time, iirc from results in the same tournament.
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>>79016651
i see more on board
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>>79016679
this
I find it hard to notice some things coming up when playing online, it's easier to play chess with a board you're used to aswell
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I dont think i could ever play anything below 15+10, i just hate flagging so much
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>>79016679
>>79016707
Thats because you learned to play on board. Zoomers are learning to play on computer and so they see more on that
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>>79016719
I learned how to play with a real board, but I think looking at the screen is more convenient.
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>>79016329
If you turn off takebacks in options the button doesn't even appear. Same for the add time button. Do recommend.
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>>79016343
I played a guy in rapid last night who apparently tried to premove everything. Or he was high. I'm not sure. He hung everything and got back ranked.
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>>79016651
You won't fuck up your eyes by constant staring into the monitor
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>>79016821
Boomer wives tale. Most people here are online 16 hours a day
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>>79016849
>Most people here are online 16 hours a day
That's how I started wearing glasses
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>>79016870
>reading 12 point font on your boomer 852×480 monitor made you realize that you need reading glasses
Most people use some form of refractive correction, boomer
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>>79016343
Also you will lose
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>>79016224
Speaking of shogi, the third meijin game is back from adjournment:
http://6shogi.com/79meijinsen3/
there's also video if you want to watch dudes just sitting for hours at a time:
https://abema.tv/now-on-air/shogi
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>>79016888
Anon, there is no shame in admitting that you're wrong. By making up stuff in your head you will be much more humiliated as a result.
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This fucking game I swear to god.
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>>79017005
>exchange but not the panov
:(
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>>79017005
i dont get it
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>>79017026
Imo the Bd3 lines are better for white than the panov.
>>79017029
Black is a whole exchange up, 2 open files with rooks perfectly situated against white's kind, but still +1.5 for white. Obviously stockfish is going to be right but holy fuck, it's probably something like the black knight needing a bunch of tempi to get into play properly, white's bishop being amazing and kinda hard to attack (and if black returns the exchange he's a whole 2 pawns down). Basically stockfish isn't afraid at all in this position and knows it can throw it's pawns at the black king and win eventually.
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>>79017069
The panic is more fun.
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>>79017089
I think it's easy enough to play it as black. Maybe I should look into the Ragozin - or whatever the Bb4 variation of the QGD was - as an alternative to the KID against d4.
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If i figure out the puzzle, i think it's too easy. If i don't figure out the puzzle, i think it's too hard.
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Bros, I'm so fucking bad at the qgd...
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>>79017314
White's side of it or black's?
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>>79016998
>ashamed on a mongolian horse riding forum
Find literally one article that monitors cause refractive errors in eyesight. I'd be surprised to learn slightly bright light changes the physical shape of your eyes lmao.
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>>79017069
Open files are a meme. Are the rooks attacking white's king or is white's king locking down two rooks to a fruitless attack?
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>>79017358
Black's. I want to keep using the oldschool qgd until I'm at least decent with it because it's such an iconic and fundamental opening, but I'm having a hard time with it. I don't think the problem is that I can only play openings with more open centres or anything like that, I think I'm decent at playing the black side of the closed ruy lopez, but d4 d5 in general just isn't clicking for me.
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>>79017483
What kind of position bugs you most
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Fuck sake whats the best way to play aginst the queen's gambit as black, not even a specific line but the ideas? I feel so cramped

gained some rating playing italians and spanish but now I had to face QG 3 times in a row now
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>>79017659
The first one. I usually push b6, fianchetto the bishop and eventually push c5 (generally after dxc4 and Nbd2, though it depends on what the opponent plays). After that I usually get a position where I can't think of any reasonable plans. I sometimes give white an iqp just so I have something to play for, but I'm not even sure if that's good.
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>>79016224
mandatory go post
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>>79017659
Not even that guy but its happening to me too

Fell apart after this
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>>79017793
idk man it's an equal position with symmetrical pawns. Your plans are going to depend on his errors. When making an iqp you want to control the square in front of your pawn so he can't set up a blockade. If you don't control the square in front of the pawn long term then trade it off soon, or make sure you're able to trade off the pieces controlling that square. I usually play black in gqd but I'll play with you if you want. Probably not qualified to be trying to help.

https://lichess.org/yBLZncIa
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>>79017919
that's a slav, anon.
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>>79017919
I'd probably play that like a normal slav with dxc4, and maybe try to exploit white moving his dark squared bishop so early.
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>>79018039
Yeah I know the basics of how to play against the iqp, so it's not too bad if white allows me to create it - the issue is that I'm not creating it because I think it will necessarily improve my position, but because I don't know what to play for otherwise.
Thanks for the game offer btw, but I'm way too sleepy and it would just be a pointless blunder fest.
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>>79018057
>>79017919
c6 is trying to accomplish the same thing as e6, to support the d5 pawn, but without closing in the light squared bishop. The problem is that even though the LSB has developmental possibilities, it's tied down to defending b7 because of the common Qb3. It's also common to just capture of c4 and support it with b4, but it's a wild position you'd probably want to look at beforehand due to 4... dxc 5. h4.

You can also just play 4... e6, but at that point I'd ask why you wouldn't just play the ggd in the first place unless you just really enjoy the semislav.
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>>79016786
Ye but people still been for it in chat. I would disable that shit too.
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>>79018175
>Ye but people still been for it in chat.
*Beg
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>>79018175
You can do that by clicking the green square next to "Chat room"
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>>79017449
Saying open files are a meme is stupid, visually the position looks good for black, except upon inspection (by an engine) black's attack won't anywhere and white will most likely win.
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DAS RITE!!
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forgot pic
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>>79018576
>>79018591
I've been fluctuating between 2200 and 2400 on puzzles for a month or so now. I'm ok with it because the tactics are very engaging despite me being unable to get them sometimes.
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>>79008035
I never allowed it. Unless they were obviously tryng to castle and move the king
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>get stumped on puzzle
>get distracted and do something else
>click back and solve it in a split second
every time
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>>79018967
I wish. If I don't find it within 5 mins I don't find it.
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I’ve been using decodechess to analyze my games for the past few days, but I find the analysis superficial at times and apparently I need to subscribe to their premium package if I want it to be more in depth. Should I get other people to analyze my games, or just do it myself?
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>>79019312
what's your rating
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>>79019331
1620
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>>79017919
I lost a game in this variation shortly after switching to the Slav. Turns out I just shouldn't have played like an idiot and it would have been fine.
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>>79018967
There's a reason people sometimes come up with great ideas in the shower.
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>>79017676
I recommend learning the Slav anon. You protect your pawn on d5 with c6. Only mistake you need to know at first is to never move your LSB unless you're sure White can't just play cxd5 and Qb3 winning a pawn and crushing you in the first few moves of the game. It's more complicated than that, but basically you're trying to get your LSB to f5 or g5 safely without losing a pawn. Tons of videos on YouTube about the Slav. Watch a few short ones.
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>>79019617
Slav is pretty smooth learning experience. I found it effective even at raw beginner stage with only the basic structure and first five moves committed to memory, no ideas about what how you're intended to proceed from there, and it was still completely fine. I picked up some of the nuance and long term plans later.
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>>79016121
If I hit 2000 on Lichess in about two years with a sleep disorder, most of you can do it. That much is true.
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>>79013542
Thanks. I feel like I should start wearing a suit when I play online Chess now.
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>>79019636
I like how you can play the structure against so many different setups. It used to drive me nuts when I was playing the Veresov as White and they would go for a stable Slav setup Knights on f6 and d7.
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>>79016651
Board is more fun, more soulful and less autistic
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is there a youtube library of historical games like retardmator's, without his dumb as fuck derailing?

i just want to watch how the game played out, not have this smoothbrain stumble over his words describing how his engine would've played every move post opening
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Ooh, I'm really happy about this mate. I think it's my first ever simultaneous royal fork and checkmate. Lad was extremely aggressive with an early attack I defended, which is why the one side of his board is completely undeveloped.
>>79020150
chessgames dot com or chesscom/games to review many thousands of tournament games. the chesscom archive is updated very quickly after tournament results. I enjoy reviewing games like this as well. You can really pick them apart, import them in to analysis (on lichess for free) and see how they came together.
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>>79019892
>less autistic
It's all autistic, anon. We're on vietnamese basket weaving forum, traditional games board, /chess/ general. There is no non-autistic here.
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>>79020224
>an early attack I defended
Or sort of. Just barely. I didn't get checkmated. It took both my rooks tho. :/
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That's it i'm going to settle down and stick to 15|10. My game analysis is still a total shit fest of mistakes and blunders, either under time trouble or snap taking in anticipation of time trouble later.
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What's a good chess tempo puzzle rating? I'm getting fucked by the difficulty and I'm only at 1930 right now.
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>>79019312
You should analyse it yourself and then run it through stockfish on lichess. If u dont play on lichess you can create a study, input all the moves, then run computer analysis.
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>>79020445
1930 on chesstempo isn't bad at all
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>>79020519
Should I be using the"hard" setting of puzzles? I've been keeping it on the default "medium."
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>>79020859
Whatever is most comfy. If things get too obscure it probably means the concepts aren't automatic to you yet, and you should drill slightly less difficult puzzles for a while longer. Or do a ramp up each day starting from easy and getting progressively harder.
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1. c4!!
Just watched this Yasser thing on the english at st. louis club. It's a good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zkUfRUSbbw
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I got a winning position at the start then hung my pawn before my opponent blunder and I got a pretty nice mating pattern. I think I almost lost because I couldn't think of a strategy, but I feel that the pawn loss might've been more significant.
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>>79014339
hate when they do this
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>>79018874
Same here, except I've been there for several months now. 2400+ tactics are hard.
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>>79019636
>>79019617
Whats the general attacking/mating plan against the queens gambit as black?

I understand what happens in the italian where you just pin the queen and destroy the castled pawn structure with a sac maybe and bring the queen or rook in and mate. But all these other openings I can never really get going or realise my advantage if any
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>>79014632
You should read Play Winning Chess by Yasser Seirawan. He covers most aspects of the game for the beginner and he's a good writer so it's pretty easy to read.
My absolute favorite is Chess Duels by the same author. If you want examples of great game analysis this book should definitely be your reference. Also, about a third of the book is backstory which you might find useful.
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>>79020150
Check out Zibbit's channel, he is the bomb
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>>79020150
sometimes you really have to explain the variants or what the engine says:

https://youtu.be/S2JedouTRZo
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>>79012154
i play c5 exclusively and my winrate went up noticeably. i approve it
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>>79014632
What made you want to write a book about a chess teacher when you don't play chess yourself?

In any event, I'd have someone good at chess to look over the chess specific parts of the book
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>>79022117
interestingly, she uses Decodechess to analyze that game; I don't think it was mentioned here before:

https://youtu.be/ZlpYPWCiZOw

https://decodechess.com
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>>79022440
it hasnt been mentioned because it's a meme scam
the only way to analyze your games and learn from them is to use your own brain

clicking 'analyze' on any website or engine is mostly pointless
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played vienna for the first time, more fun than i expected, any specific lines i should try to learn?
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>>79019312
>apparently I need to subscribe to their premium package if I want it to be more in depth.
ah ok, that indeed sucks

>>79022474
>clicking 'analyze' on any website or engine is mostly pointless
I know you're right, but I still check them after I lose, not after I win; weird; for the chess variants it was also the only way for me to learn the basic stuff
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>>79020150
Watch Mato's chess miniatures playlist
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFCFEFEF4CFB6F10A
His voice is smooth and videos very short and succinct
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>>79004719
>footsies under the board
I don't play chess but this is my fetish
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>>79022474
Is it really that bad to use the engine after a game? It helps me noticed tactics I missed or techniques I could've used to stop myself from being mated, I don't really listen to it if I can't understand the idea behind a move it suggests
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>>79022440
what the fuck is this meme analysis
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>>79023164
at least now you know what the computer is thinking
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>>79023301
>computer
>thinking
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>>79023102
This is probably the best attitude to have about engine analysis.
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>>79023102
think of the computer as a chess coach, you need to try your best first.

go back through the game, try to find mistakes, slow moves, blunders, and figure out if there was something better you could have done, then check your work with stockfish.

Also, the engine will get you into really difficult positions over slivers of a pawn, so it will be good to learn when and why you disagree with the engine moves, and when it's a good idea to do the 2nd/3rd best move
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>>79023164
Does Stockfish also find this fucked line of the dragon or does it just play the main line that humans have come up with?
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>>79023504
I meant of the Yugoslav here.
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>>79022850
lmao, killed psychologically and technically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD29Erh9YfQ
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>>79023504

No it doesn't but it also likes the super fast pawn storm

hmm I get early pawned stormed a lot when I play the dragon, makes me wonder if these guys are using the engine to help them through the opening
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>>79023637
They aren't. It's called the yugoslav attack and it's the reason no one except amateurs play the Dragon anymore. If you want to keep playing the dragon you'll probably have to find a book to help you against it.
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Anyone read Improve Your Chess Pattern Recognition: Key Moves and Motifs in the Middlegame by International Master Arthur van de Oudeweetering?

Is it good? What level would it be best for?
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>>79023876
Yeah I know it's the Yugoslav, but the really b4 is not part of theory right?

regardless I kept getting rekt by it and I'm too weak to waste time studying the opening that already that does poorly anyway, any good alternatives to the dragon that will give me exciting tactical games?
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>>79024069
really early b4 (before queen d2)*
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>>79023548
>le killer move
https://youtu.be/dWA-5A17-s4



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