Previous:>>78549231>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.net>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>Thread Question:Post your absolute all-time favorite art on a card
Silverquill Day, baby
>>78553200>TQ
>>78553228Still ugly.All Strixhaven dragons are.
>>78553200>TQAnd if you disagree you're probably a faggot
>>78553240They look fine and are each mechanically interesting. Overall a welcome edition to Edh
>TQ
>>78553200>TQa pity it's on an awful vanilla common
>>78553240Wrong opinion
>>78553302Those teeth
>TQShame that it's pretty unplayable.
It's the only actual piece of art in this game.
>>78553228Get ready for a big batch of liquid hobo shit
pasting this pastaworthy post here.>The new art direction of MtG is a sign of change in the relationship between companies and the consumer: while some decades ago the means to provide a complete and complex product were not achieveable these days it is standard corporation praxis: The market is understood better, its easier to manipulate people because we have more access to behavioral data and products are designed to make your life as easy as possible.There are many implications coming from this but the one I want to focus on is Imagination.Imagination is the ability to think something up yourself.most of the time this does not start from nothing but is rather led into a direction by some form of media you consumed. Corporations trying to make your life easier also means they provide a holistic experience in entertainment, which requires as little imagination as possible because it is all provided for.>When I was young I masturbated to the thought of women. i spun my own ideas in my head. Here I was infinitely free. the easy access to porn in this age makes it obsolete to use your brain, you can just look. of course there were porn magazines back then, but those were immovable pictures which required you to at least imagine your part.modern mtg art is a holistic homogenous experience drawing the world you experience for you. old mtg art suggested a picture and made you figure out the rest.>make of this what you will, imagination is not neccesarily important, but I yearn for the days where human marketing psychology was not as understood.
>literal genetic waste still think this guy is hard to cast when the 5 generic cost actually makes him far easier to cast than other boros commanders>multiple ways to cast him on turn 2 >can come out on turn 3 with decent success rate>WILL come out on turn 4 at the latest if you build him rightI'm surrounded by battlecruiser timmies
>>78553325I fucking hate that shit with a passion.
>>78553200>TQi don't really know why, and i see how weirdly she's shaped, but i have loved her since first opening her in high school.she is weird and her hands are scary, but she looks so lovable to me
More tech like this please
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/check-out-new-packaging-commander-2021-edition-and-beyond-2021-04-08>minimalistic box
>>78553378He'll get pathed into oblivion
>>78553354nice pseud bullshit loser hahahaha
>>78553315Post yours
>>78553391That's actually good.
>>78553391>techits goodstuff.
>>78553393fuck, i liked the oversized cards
>>78553393>The deck box itself is smaller and easier to transport than before, similar to the deck boxes you find in Prerelease kits but large enough to hold the entire Commander deck, even after you sleeve the cards.I hope so, hated the old "deck boxes" that couldn't even hold half the deck single sleeved
>>78553404I'm not a dragon.
>>78551784bigger
>>78553452Didn't think so
>>78553391>gears of war 5
where is the Toski poster
Don't open the spoiler
>>78553473>5mv
>>78553443What do you with them? I have a few curled up in a corner.
>>78553480I'm still having a hard time moving past CMC. MV just doesn't feel right.
>>78553473>simic gets a 5 mana wrath of god that also benefits the simic player
>>78553473>the color pie is more of a suggestion
>>78553378The problem with expensive commanders isn't necessarily the first time you cast them but every time after that. Even if you get to cast him on turn 2 you don't necessarily get to keep him, especially if you aren't on the play. There are like 20 instant speed killspells that cost just 2 mana and hit him. The fact that you call others craw while you innocently believe you get to keep your 7 mana commander with no protection of any kind is pretty ironic. But do keep telling me how 7 mana commanders are cool actually because you can cast them early if your opening hand is 50% mana rocks.
>>78553402personlal incredulty doesnt mean it is wrong.
>>78553393Who the fuck caresDo people actually read this and go>ah fuck yeah saving the environmentWhat kind of asshole gets excited about this
I wish this were better. It feels like a nice refund more than actual ramp.
>>78553503You get used to it.
>>78553480I'm making this rule now: use cmc for magic cards and mv for numagic cards.
>>78553488That's a surprisingly ornate shovel.
>>78553508Wrath of god doesn't exile though
>>78553541>Post chad cards
>>78553541Why not just use cmc for everything
>>78553536Seems built for the hydra tribal deck with potential future applications in decks outside that down the line.Its a fine addition built for x deck so you end up seeing less homogenous mana rock builds in every deck.
>>78553541I'm gonna use mv for old cards and cmc for new ones
>>78553525lol no shit, you're not being clever and you're not elucidating anyone right nowanyone running a mana production package for Lorehold that's less than 20 cards is an idiot, and there are absolutely ways to minimize the recast tax for commanders like thisyour commander eating removal 3-4 times in a single game is in fact rare, and if you don't understand this then you're proving that you haven't played much commander at all, there are other threats on the table and Lorehold himself is not so much of a threat that he screams kill me immediately, as opposed to someone like Kaalia Velomachus himself is simply a wincon facilitator to something like Second Sun and not the actual main threat, non-craw groups will understand this
>>78553473>fuck it, everyone gets one single of varying sizesI mean, it is true to its name.
>>78553539Whats the difference, its like not someone is going to not understand what im talking about when i say either, the only person i can see being """""confused""""" by still using CMC is the dickhead trying to force you to change your language and pretending to genuinely not understand what youre talking about by using CMCI still use he or she when reading cards but every now and then ill slip up
>>78553575Yeah, it does seems pretty good with Gargos.
>>78553573Because the new nomenclature by wotc mirroring the design shift from old good to new bad is very apt. I'm not even opposed to Oversimplify as a concept. Its the mana cost being 5 that is bonkers. Have it at 8 or 9 and complaints would have been tempered.There is no way a card like that would exist when they cared about balance through the mana cost. But we live in the mana value era now and cards like this exist readily. The divide is completely contextualized.
Stx is shaping up to be a 'let's shit on any deck that doesn't run green: the set'
>>78553609>trying to force you to change your languageChill out, Peterson.
>>78553601People machine gunning problem commanders is pretty common from the games I've seen. Will a 7 drop like Velomachus get that treatment? Probably not. Making 1/3rd of your deck ramp and draw (in boros) to get him out quick and reliable, then the huge package of cards to run with his trigger, then the nature of the trigger makes him seem weaker than you'd expect. He is the neatest of the new Elder dragons shown so far I'll give you that. Boros is getting spoiled this set overall. He feels like a top end version of basic battlecruiser unga bunga magic is, thats fine with me.
>boros?>what's boros?>oh you mean lorehold
>>78553560
>>78553682
>>78553673Will the new Potterschools substitute the old guild denominations for color combinations?
>>78553728Hell no. Ravnica is too embedded in MTG lore at this point. Not to mention popular.
>>78553682Chad illustration, shame the crappy mechanics.I suppose this chad here can make it better.
>>78553279Ywnbaw
>>78553725
>>78553601You call others craw yet Kaalia is the biggest threat you can imagine? There are ways that your commander will die besides spot removal, you know. The board could get wiped, for example. Having to use your whole turn just to recast your commander if he ever dies is not sustainable and you should know this. His ability isn't very good like you said yourself so there is literally no reason to defend his absurdly high mana cost. You keep talking like others are the uninformed ones that don't play enough commander yet naively believe that nobody will kill your commander or destroy your mana rocks. In boros colors something like a vandalblast can incapacitate you for the rest of the game so better have that boros charm up at all times. In a hundred card singleton format. I also don't judge. I'm sure Velomachus can be very fun but don't delude yourself by saying that his casting cost is not too high. It absolutely is.
>>78553746>creature with no abilities How long until that gets replaced by 'vanilla creature' or some dreadful term to save space
>>78553728There may be new players who do it, Ill do it for a while to be a prick to people but Im sure by the time we go to ravnica a third time itll wear off
>>78553787creature with no abilities is ableist >>ability challenged
>>78553640Its not even politcal sure i could go on a fucking tangent about that but theres always some asswipe whos go no motive than to push cocksuckers around socially or just cause its fun to him/her
>>78553825Didn't we already have a return to return to ravnica
>>78553533I'm in favor of the minimalist packaging. Less packaging = marginally more time before I need to take the trash out. The price on amazon was also marginally cheaper
>>78553728LOLThey couldnt keep the Ikoria wedge names going after 2 weeks. I doubt anyone even remembers them without them looking up.
>>78553825>There may be new players who do it, Ill do it for a while to be a prick to people but Im sure by the time we go to ravnica a third time itll wear off>Im sure by the time we go to ravnica a third time itll wear off>ravnica a third timei have some bad news for you
>>78553769You're being an intentionally dishonest dipshit right now. No, Kaalia is not the biggest threat I can imagine, but its an act comparison because it IS a threat that is immediately removed if possible once played. That is the prevailing mindset of the EDH community when it comes to Kaalia.Not reading the rest of your subhuman drivel.
>>78553825>third timeFourth
>>78553837>>78553859i didnt have internet for a while and Im going back to play magic for the first time since getting it back. All Ive really checked is to make sure my pet decks didnt see any major bannings
>>78553837Yeah, and it sucked because it gave us WAR
>>78553315>>78553302the math dragon looks geekymore like pic
>>78553858There were Ikoria wedge names?
>>78553863I'm sorry your craw dragon isn't viable. No need to get mad at me just because you want to play shit decks.
>>78553892Ok, that seals it.
Any bros got advice for playing a non butthead urza deck? My group would cry if I played winter orb stax ect with him, thinking Ill do artifact creatures and stealing creature effects?
>>78553892He's just British
>>78553533>What kind of asshole gets excited about thisThe business side of things. The old boxes were inefficient for shipping, took up too much shelf space, and were difficult to face properly. The only upsides were a giant card almost nobody cared about and a deck box that wasn't actually functional. I suspect we'll see several different packagings for a lot of products going forward as Walmart wants chunky, difficult packaging to discourage theft, online retailers want things compact to make it easy to ship, and LGS want things that are flashy but take up limited shelf space.
Less than ten months to go
>>78553924You could also switch to a less powerful (but still fairly powerful) monoU artifact commander like Emry or Sai.
>>78553924Build "Urzatron"
>>78553887don't worry fren, you will always have us to mock you over nothing
>>78553940The foot stuff already happened.
>>78553933sureit's from notHogwards after all
>>78553924Hidden Karn deck. Once you find and cast Karn then you never cast Urza and cast Blind Seer instead.
>>78553973Wow Belbe really has cute feet, I thought it was just a meme.
Spoiler video’s up.
>>78553940still hoping she makes it on a card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_GmLh_2czg&list=PLtMmIcAO3f9p4kGRFaLOoK-pu7nrQXPlQ
>>78554021Post images so I don’t have to give this kike views.
Orzhov Counters matter
>>78554021What a cool hat
>>78554026>counters of any kind>token for each counter>doesn’t specify “another” so gives tokens when she dies as wellSo with a sufficiently large Black Sun’s Zenith, you’ll have an absolutely absurd post-wipe board.
>>78554024>waaahhh serve me waaahhhWait for the decklist if you care enough you lazy fuck
Litty
Has Witherbloom Witchcraft been spoiled yet?
>>78554059COMMANDER: Breena, the DemagoguePlaneswalker (1)1 Gideon, Champion of JusticeCreature (17)1 Angel of Serenity1 Boreas Charger1 Hunted Lammasu1 Knight of the White Orchid1 Selfless Squire1 Stalking Leonin1 Sunscorch Regent1 Windborn Muse1 Zetalpa, Primal Dawn1 Deathbringer Regent1 Necropolis Regent1 Deathbringer Liege1 Magister of Worth1 Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts1 Elite Scaleguard1 Oreskos Explorer1 Orzhov AdvokistSorcery (2)1 Tragic Arrogance1 Infernal OfferingInstant (2)1 Oblation1 Utter EndArtifact (9)1 Coveted Jewel1 Pendant of Prosperity1 Victory Chimes1 Arcane Signet1 Bloodthirsty Blade1 Mind Stone1 Orzhov Signet1 Sol Ring1 Spectral SearchlightEnchantment (8)1 Citadel Siege1 Together Forever1 Ghostly Prison1 Martial Impetus1 Soul Snare1 Vow of Duty1 Curse of Disturbance1 Parasitic ImpetusLand (37)1 Caves of Koilos1 Exotic Orchard1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea1 Temple of Silence1 Barren Moor1 Bojuka Bog1 Command Tower1 Myriad Landscape1 Opal Palace1 Orzhov Basilica1 Secluded Steppe1 Tainted Field1 Temple of the False God14 Plains10 SwampOther (23)1 Felisa, Fang of Silverquill1 Combat Calligrapher1 Guardian Archon1 Nils, Discipline Enforcer1 Promise of Loyalty1 Scholarship Sponsor1 Author of Shadows1 Bold Plagiarist1 Cunning Rhetoric1 Fain, the Broker1 Incarnation Technique1 Keen Duelist1 Stinging Study1 Inkshield1 Tempting Contract1 Duelist’s Heritage1 Debtors’ Knell1 Secret Rendezvous1 Fracture1 Silverquill Campus1 Study Hall1 Ambition’s Cost1 Rogue’s Passage
>>78554026>another flying commander that makes flying tokens en massesigh its so lazy at this point.
>>78554065POWERFULWHITECARDS
>>78554021https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/commander-2021-edition-decklists-2021-04-05
>>78553241Not even the best Boros angel from her own plane
>>78553473why is this in fucking simic colorsit's all so tiring
>>78554065>in the set with the counters matters commander>doesn't do the same set up as the leonin that secretly chooses that puts a counter on itself
...Melina?
>>78553241>>78554092>Boros AngelIs there a gayer combination of colors and creature type?
Not so tempting
>>78554119>Bob but also for an opponentWho on earth wanted this?
>Simic gets another busted commander and a new mass exile>Orzhov deck is literal garbage politics deckWhat the fucking fuck. The only decent card is the mono-black vampire
>>78554092I thought there were only one angel for every color pair with white. Razia is not from innistrad, you know.
>>78554026>smug fat Asian womanWell, we're off to a good start>>78554134>Is there a gayer combination of colors and creature type?Simic Hydra
>>78554073Tomorrow
>>78554144Silverquill is just gay Orzhov holy shit
>>78554144May fit in my 4c group hug
I love options commanders
>>78554077No big hits in this one either huh
>>78554144Imagine actually thinking people will give you treasures...
>>78554146your opponent
>>78554134Jeskai angel
>>78554077>Zetalpa, Primal Dawn fucking againIt feels like they literally just throw this card in anything with white in it.
>>78554157Simic might be gay as in lame but boros is the color of actual homosexuals. We had many thread about this yesterday.
>>78554184>Illusionist’s Bracers>Ashnod’s Altar>creature with PersistHa ha yes
>>78554184Sick. Been a while since I had new Mairsil food.
>>78554144Why the fuck os this 4 mana this is awful. You might have well made an artifact that says "Pay 4 do nothing fuck you"
I warned you bros. I warned you dawgs. I told you BW was gunna be boring and shit.
>>78554224This should have been BW and legendary
>>78554184>mono-B commander is some faggy Tom Hiddleston toolboxGay. What happened to mono-B commanders that look and feel mono-B?
>>78554224Wouldve been so much better if the first clause affected all tokens instead of inklings. Parasitic mechanics are so lame.
>>78554242P O W E R F U L
>tqBtw if anyone has high res art of this please post it here, I've wanted this as a wallpaper forever
>>78554244Are you perhaps a prophet?
Making flying tokens is the new draw card.
>>78554184Finally some good fucking food
>>78554242>Magali can only draw one face>Is commissioned to draw a guy this time>gives him a beard to cover up the samefaceSmooth. Also yet another fucking old man as a mono-W Legend.
man the BW decks sucks balls so far...of course it was the one I was looking forward the most
>>78554242I know partners are cancerous but the mono colored commanders in this set should have had it. Theyre all so bad and I feel none of them are good enough to pilot a deck on their own, theyre just shitty lieutenents.
>>78554244No shit retard, fuck off.
I'm fucking erect. This goes perfectly in my Merieke deck.
>>78554264>playing creatures in commanderIshygddtAlso that flavor text holy shit
>>78554288He's also dressed in the same style clothes as most of his women.
>>78554288At least he's not Asian of black I guess. Everyone else seems to be this set.
>>78554284>>78554290>Thanks for ramping me bruh. So I play a land, and tap for 10 mana...
>>78554317Most of whose women?
why there's no Silverquil card named "Ghost Writer" for fucks sakeand Silverquil looks very slimy, almost indistinguishable from the Orzhov, with all the deals and money and shit
>>78554306>the left stealing memes is now a card
>>78554337>why doesn’t Silverquill have ghosts?>also Silverquill is too conceptually similar to the Orzhov
>>78554323>art depicts token theft>only does countersSo fucking close
>>78554306This is the first good card I've seen in this precon
>>78554026Stick her in an atraxa deck
>>78554356Technically, the token depicted is a 0/0 that gets a lot of counters put onto it, so it kind of makes sense.
>>78554352Ghost writing isn't about ghosts. It would be a good card name for this set and silverquill specifically.
>>78554381>expecting WotC to use a card name that COULD be an obvious pun without making the pun
>politics deck>all the white cards are "each player" trash>the black cards solely benefit you
All these commander made cards feel so soulless, only like 5% feel like actual magic cards. And let’s not talk about the recent art direction of magic.
>>78554352why would they miss a pun like this for a college of writers?
>>78554306at last, one fucking new card I can put into my Marchesa superfriends.
>>78554184It sucks that commanders now adays are so pushed that cool commanders like this feel so underwhelming, 4-5 years ago people would be going nuts over a commander like this.
>Bob with tits that cheats on you
>>78554403>opponent getting a Bob trigger as well only benefits you
>>78554381this guy gets it
>>78554134nothing gay about futa angel cock
These year precon decks have been awfully fucking trash, 0 cards with actual play value, 90% of them have been politics and grouphug shitInsanely dissapointing, last year decks were fantastic and even cheaper than this shit.
>>78554323This is so unbelievably bad.
>>78554426>one of them benefits opponents too so that excuses all the white ones being unplayable trash
>>78554421women, eh?
>>78554437>0 cards with actual play value
>>78554230>boros is the color of actual homosexualsWhich one of you fags are pushing this subversive narrative?
>>78554437Youre insane if you think the Simic mass exile and the white creature that gets people lands arent going to be staples.
>>78554437This is probably going to be a $20 card by the end of the year
>>78554407>SoullessJust say you don't like them. Soulless is retarded /v/ buzzword>>78554437Yeah ok
>>78554466>narrative
>>78554485Why is this 5 mana
That's all for the new stuff
>>78554485>5 cmc instant this should have been a 3cmc sorcery
>>78554466If you like boros for the hot angels you aren't part of the gay boyos side of the discussion and shouldn't feel slighted at the claim.He's right, boros has a ton of commanders built for gay men. Not attractive for gay men, built from the ground up to be for gay me.
>>78554486I hate how the clauses are worded separately.
>>78554466It includes white, the gayest color, and red, the color of doing things passionately. Just like how blue (the color of change) and red (the color of doing things passionately) get you the color pair of trannies, red and white get you the color pair of flaming homos.
>>78554485>Instant - Eminence
>>78554516>>78554519you both are immensely retarded or just play very low cmc commanders
>>78554517I actually like this card even if its 5CMC. A fog that can build you a board by itself is bretty cool. Now if only faggots would stop playing solitaire and turn cards sideways in this format.
>>78554517Why is this 5 mana? Both Black and White get Fogs at one mana.
>>78554466Boros has a disproportionate amount of gay cards.Alesha: Red White/BlackAlharu: WhiteBalduvian War-Makers: RedBruse: Red WhiteClergy en-Vec: WhiteEnthralling Victor: RedGuardians of Meletis: ColorlessHallar: Red GreenKynaios&Tiro: Red Green White BlueMalach of Dawn: Double WhiteMarisi: Red Green WhiteNiko: White BlueRakish Heir: RedSecret Lair Heliod: WhiteSecret Lair Squire: WhiteSecret Rendezvous: Double WhiteTomik: Double White
>>78554516>five mana draw 6What’s the issue here?
so is wizards just not doing draft anymore?
>>78554290So it's pretty much confirmed that white is the neutered, no fun group hug colour now?
>>78554519>>78554516>Just give some decks a 3-4cmc draw 7 spell, what could possible go wrong?Even 4 sounds too low in those cases, so 5 mana and instant sound like a good compromise.
>>78554540I play playable commanders, yes
>>78554437Last thread we had an art discussion but i feel like people were missing the point. New magic art isn't bad like some people make out, its actually very high quality. And the people posting shitty old art are right, there was a ton of that. What i miss was the variety. Its inarguable that the new art, aside from seb and maybe one or two other artists, all has the same style/general look. There were a ton of stinkers in the old art but for each one of those you had a masterpiece by guay or adam rex. We had a ton of different artists wildly varying interpretations of a plane, and for me that at least made the game more visually interesting
>>78554552Yes, they get Fog at 1 mana. Fog plus create ten 2/1s with flying should probably cost more than 1, though.
>>78553240Your dick gets smaller every time you make a post like that.
>>78554485>5 cmcNot even in a Toshiro deck
>>78554552>Why is this 5 mana?Most of the time when you fog a 3 damage hit you dont end up with 6/3 in the air
>>78554477>basic plainsI still can't get over this...
>>78554540>Or just play low CMC commandersYes. Most non-green commanders cant survive in the current meta if theyre above 4 CMC. The format is becoming way too fast
>>78554574its fucking perfect for any kind of control deck, I assumed it would be a sorcery since it could draw a fuck ton but it being an instant is amazing
>>78554477>last year>buy jeskai precon deck for $40>get nice playable cards>get fierce guardianship, a $50 edh staple>get value off my purchase>this year>spend $40 on precon>get bulk rares at every corner>instantly lose my money as soon as i pay for the precon and have to pray for the cards to rise in value 6 months later otherwise its throwing money into the garbagetime to just buy the singles at $5-10 for the extremely few good cardsabsolutefuckingtrashdecklists
>>78554570>precons>draftWere you dropped as a child?
>>78554570Why push draft in paper when Arena is profitable, paper players get secret lairs and set boosters now for twitch streamers to open.
>>78553241Bruna is better.
I wonder if Hellkite Tyrant is going to drop after this printing.Always wanted one to fuck around with for being able to steal artifacts but never wanted to buy it knowing full well I'm not going to build around the fact it wins me the game.
>>78554552Because you can potentially make a board of >10 2/1 flyers
>>78554598It being instant is definitely amazing. What I meant is that 4 mana would probably be still too cheap for 6 or 7 mana commanders. 5 mana sounds like a fair price and the instant speed makes it playable.
>>78554567>>78554574>Green>Can both easily cheat their mana costsThis proves nothing. Most non-green commanders cant go past 4 nowadays unless they have a reduction or cheat mechanic like Rakdos.
>>78554605the kaldheim precons had insane value so they are cashing in on that good will
>>78554092Razia's rules seem kinda bad
>>78554630yeah Im agreeing with you I hope it doesnt go up because its perfect for my deck
>>78554184Treasure tokens are dumb.
>>78554605Are you really complaining that WotC didn't print a new busted precon only card?
>>78554576I feel like the trouble with the “varying interpretations of a plane” argument is that, for the majority of old Magic, we were really only on one plane. There wasn’t much of a chance to see how different artists interpreted a new set of inputs because they weren’t GETTING new inputs.
>>78554632Hell, outside of Gargos most green commanders are 3cmc or lower
Is the BW deck the worst precon of all time? All the new cards suck, they are way too overcosted, have some ridiculous drawback, or require your opponents to do something to work.
>>78554573>neutered, no fun group hugwhite in a nutshell
>>78554658>Are you really complaining that WotC didn't put more valuable cards inside the precon decks for the same price?Yes
>>78554530It's because there are non-creature commander permanents. I agree with you, though.
>>78554605Fuck off. These new cards might be rounded corners safety scissors shit, but Id rather have them not release more berken garbage like Guardianship. Fuck you finance kike
>>78554632What proof? It's a balancing issue to not print too much draw on a three mana spell. Draw 3 and lose 3 life is already top of the line there. And even 4 mana draw 6-7 is amazing, even for green. Could've used mardu just as well as an example where it'd be broken for 3 or 4 mana.
>>78554632>5 mana instant-speed draw 4That’s still better than blue’s baseline.
>>78554671At worst its tied with the gay kings precon, but both were still politics trash
>>78554683this
>>78554671I'm buying a single of that rhetoric card, the black enchantment one, but thats it. Nothing else interests me.Maybe I'll make that broker guy for my mono black deck in 3 years when I finally get around to it. Maybe
>>78554671No
>>78554485you guys think this card is going to spike hard?
>>78554671As a precon its hot garbage. Ironically though? It has a lot of cards I want to put in other decks so Im getting one just to gut it.
>>78554676 Its okay if Fierce Gaurdianship is broken and unhealthy for the format because it helped pay for my purchase :)End your existence kike
>>78554184a dirty add to muldrotha
>>78554264>>78554260we are yugioh nowconfirmed
>>78554517If this were within Sunforger range, it'd be MUCH better.
>>78554605So just don’t buy it, retard. Printing must-buy products through the use of exclusives autoincludes is anti-consumer cancer.
>>78554715>Mentor on a not-Boros cardSo weird. At least she's fairly unique as far as counters commanders go.
>>78554660For me the old art direction only really ended around innistrad, it was all pretty varied until that point. Only recently are the cards all starting to look alike. It was a gradual change. We had lorwyn block, ravnica og, mirrodin and alara all set on different planes with a large variety of art directions
>>78554683>muh financeHey buddy i'm supporting the game by buying WotC products, what does that say about you?
>>78554733>he said, using a logic which applies to literally every white or red instant in the game
>>78554119>>78554421She cute
>>78554693Gay Kings was okay cause we didnt have alot of politics/group hug commanders that were playable outside of Pheldagriff back then. They were also well designed and decently strong for group hug.The Orzhov one is durrrrrrrr counters and tokens, where as Gay Kings gave you cards and land drops
>>78554184>doesn't even work with NorrittAbsolute trash
This was so fucking bad bros ......... silverquill dudes, how are you feeling?
>>78554573What do you mean?Unironically, I'm new.
>>78554748>Hey buddy i'm supporting the game by buying WotC productsThen you're a fucking retard. Only kikes and bootlickers give WotC money as they're the ones actively ruining the game
>>78554748>Hey buddy i'm supporting the game by buying WotC products, what does that say about you?Kill yourself
Black is the new white, only gets shit cards
>>78554782I only play mono-B so I am hoping for something good tomorrow but expecting absolute trash
>>78554573My god dude you've literally been in the last 5 threads bitching about how white isnt getting support. No one gives a shit that your gay augustin stax deck isnt getting even more support, fuck off and complain about something else. Stop coming here looking for people to sad-wank with
>orzhov niggers get fuckedtoday was a good day
Holy shit guys , is Sheldon kino?It may be because having my opponents beat the shit out of eachother is my favorite edh playstyle but I am really digging the silverquill deck.
>>78554798Remember when people said that Black getting really terrible, inefficient Enchantment removal is the beginning of the end yet these same people said nothing when Blue got efficient creature and artifact exile two sets in a row?
>>78554817>sad-wankIs that even a thing?Lmao now I'm imagining you with some other faggot both crying and jacking each other off at the same time
>>78553619>8 or 9Maybe if you're retarded. 6 would have been fine maybe 7. That would be consistent with other mass exile cards.
>>78554824Shoo shoo shill
>>78554824excellently crafted bait
>>78554573>some of these cards are very obviously testing expansion of white’s space>BUT WHY AREN’T THEY PUSHED?I’d much rather they experiment with the effect at a lower power level and see how it impacts the game before turning up the knobs than that they force new autoincludes down our throat and then back away from that design space entirely.
>>78554824>How do you do fellow 4channers
I like tribal what can I say
>>78554517i like the near-phyrexian in the art
>>78554146You tale the life of the ENEMIES card. So like in yuriko or something you are coming them for 8 and 7 and you are just taking 3 or 4 from mana rocks and shit.Especially if you aim it at the player with the lowest curve.
Oh boy can't wait for the Golgari precon deck to also have a focus on creatures, sorcery effects, +1/+1 counters, politics, grouphug and overcosted cards.Can't wait for it to also have no valuable reprints.
I like voltron what can I say
>>78554824>is Sheldon kino?Nohttps://articles.starcitygames.com/2015/01/15/fate-reforged-commander-set-review/
>>78554144This should have been an enchantment
I don’t get why you fags don’t just build Bant if that’s what you really want to play.
So basically Quandrix and Witherbloom are the only schools they care about and will be the only two decks worth getting?
Is Simic the best color combo then?
>>78554864If you ain't playing Uril, fuck out of my face.
>>78554184Tom Hiddleston is going to find a lot of homes.
>>78554871bant is probably the gayest 3c comboalso all their commanders suck or are boring
>>78554857>make that gamble>opponent reveals Blasphemous Act
>>78554859Its life gain/life drain I thought? So probably going to get some of that and probably sac outlets for those new Pest cards
>>78554306This is probably going into my tayam.
>>78554874>>78554875Yes.
>>78554836That is exactly what white fag does when the precons don't give him more broken uninteractive stax cards. Cries and faps to a picture of norns annex while simultaneously posting in /edhg/
>>78554874The Lorehold deck seems okay. But yeah, Quandrix and Witherbloom are definitely on a different tier from the rest.
>>78554865Unban it you fucking pussyRecurring Nightmare did absolutely nothing wrong
>>78554874They might ruin witherbloom too so don’t hold out for anything great
>Wanted to do an EDH deck with white for years>no commanders interest me really outside maybe partner akroma, but the other shit I'd want to pair her with has too high a CMC>with WotC track record for dumb bullshit get moderately excited for the BW precon despite all odds, maybe they overcompensate>spoilersI only have myself to blame
>>78554885>gayest 3c combo>no boros
What's the goofiest/most fun commander I can run?
>>78554859It’s focused on life drain you fool. The green reprints are going to be something to see given how little lifegain payoff there actually is in the color. Maybe they’ll reprint Primal Order as a way to trigger your own life loss effects.
>>78554671>he is new enough not to remember the 2015 boros preconfucking zoomers man
>>78554856I agree. Theres something about monstrous cyborgs i cant get enough off
>>78554865How can you be any caliber of magic player above an actual new player and think Mardu Woe Reaper is broken.
>>78554916>boros>3c
Imagine two young brothers picking decks for the first time from a store and one of them picks this. KEK
>>78554290> play this and slap in mindcensor or teferi's protection in response to etbHeh
>>78554920golos gates
>>78554865Fucking Alaskan cumskins are the worst thing about this format
>>78554926>enemy colored precons>Boros focused on high-cmc creatures>Simic focused on low-cmc creaturesI still don’t understand what happened there.
>>78554940>Imagine two young brothers picking decks for the first time from a store and one of them picks this. KEK>mfw this was literally my two little brothers beck during kaldheim when they wanted to play with me
>>78554939>3c =/= 2c + 1c
>>78554940not wotcs fault they are putting 2 decks in a 1v1 that were made and balanced for a 1v1v1v1
>>78554944>mindcensor>not Opposition Agent
>>78554961they wanted to try something "new"
>>78554940I honestly envy the kids table my LGS had at commander nights. That pure innocence when me and my friends hear the kids calling each other names and saying Atarka World Render is a broken card. Id give anything to play that Commander instead of the solitaire this shit has become
>>78554991Im going to put the basedjack beard and glasses on this guy
>>78554979
>>78554979boof
>>78554967The Kaldheim precons were okay though. And half the price.
>>78554920
>>78555011yeah I managed to get both for 40$ so it was a steal in my mind
>>78554999its from "karn's temporal sundering" art
Any spicy tech for this guy?
>>78554307What's up with the Warlock subtype?
>>78554421Seems nice with Scroll Rack.
>>78554605If you don't want the cards why did you buy it you troglodyte?
>>78555041hes a filthy kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikkkkkkkkkkkkkeeeeeeeee
Does it resolve?
>>78555008ワンワン
>>78555028
>>78554915>Wanted to do an EDH deck with white for yearsMagetaNoyan DarYasharnVonaIroasSydriJaredRafiqDoranShu YunZurgo
>>78555008Based edo boofer buffet
>>78555063"I fierce guardianship in response" :^)
>>78555063
>>78554976Fuck opposition agent and everybody who plays it.
How good is she really?
>>78554920Mono-black elves, of course.
>>78555071in case they lock out isamaru when he tries to GetDa squirrel
>>78555015This is just being a dick
>>78554552Black has one fog at 1 mana and it's considered a hard break, I wouldn't say they "get" them
>>78555099tier 1 cedh. she is one of those commanders that will combo off with cards you didnt know combo off when you build the deck. similar to staff of domination
>>78554466It's not a narrative, it's the cold hard truth. I am sorry. I don't make the facts. I just share them.
>>78554466boros is the color combo of actual homosex
>>78555091>n-not my tutorinos!
>>78555099Probably in the top 10 strongest commanders.>4c>Half a dozen combos>Good utility and value even outside of combos
>>78554466Actual homosexuals
>>78554306Thantis baitDon’t really care about anything else here
>>78555193It'd be fine if it didn't allow playing those cards. If it just exiled the cards and that was all, I'd play it.
>>78555193Exactly
>>78554466its ok if you are gay anon
>>78554632It goes great in kerrick, 4 mana draw seven lose 9 is a great rate
>>78555200>Probably in the top 10 strongest commanders.It's not 2017 anymore
>they still need to show the inevitable secret lair dropIt’s not Harry Potter, so what are they going to do?
>>78555270> It’s not Harry PotterIt will be HP, and Hermione is gonna be a nigger.
>>78554926You mean the one with fiery confluence and blade of selves, as well as a very good reprint in Urza's incubator? Do (You) remember that deck?
>>78555089
>>78555290>wow 3 whole cards in a pile of unplayable garbageyes it was shit at the time too
>>78555285They already said no to potter because Rowling thinks women being annihilated by mentally ill freaks in sports isn’t good
>>78554421Why is the opponent also revealing the top card of my library?
>>78555329And this one has zero. You're missing the point
>>78555360>>78555360>>78555360
>>78554026>Mass inkling generator commander>With counters matter themesFinally. Inktide tribal here we go.Why did they have to be tapped though?And her art hardly suggests shes an inkling horde summoner.
>>78555350Rowling is wrong, it's great.
Is it bad that I want the entire Strixhaven school and all of its annoying children and actually the entire plane of Arcavios compleated by bäsed Jin Gitaxias
>>78554485Cue the twitter warriors decry depictions of school abuse
>>78554961Why isn’t the Boris precon ANOTHER boring go wide sideways guys deck!? It’s really unexplored design space, Boros aggro is.The quality of these threads has dropped immensely over the past few days, Jesus Christ
>>78555285>It will be HP, and Hermione is gonna be a nigger.Is't she already?
>>78555100I did this and it is great fun.
>>78554605>>78554683>Wizards release Emience, powerful cards0/10 ruins games, must have in all decks>Wizards releases less powerful cards that don't "ruin everything"0/10 bulk rare collection
>>78554912Silverquill is the one school they designed primarily for draft (durrrr we need an aggro archetype!!!) so it's only natural they had to staple their "powerful white cards", which are all boring political cards, to the school without as much room to design in commander. Quandrix Big Counters, Prismatic Big Spells, Lorehold Artifacts, and Witherbloom Life Drain are all much easier to support in commander than Silverquill weenie aggro
>>78555420I like how like 5 other posters said theyd rather have weird bulk jank than more pushed OP staples but you ignore all that and keep seething like the faggot kike shill you are.
>>78555403Honestly the worst part about this card is the smug annoying flavor text
>>78555510lmao no i am not any of the two posters. "faggot kike shill" is the Questing Beasts of insults.
>>78555534You dropped your hat rabbi
>>78555513It's a "fractal" (Get it? Get it?) aproach to crap. Every bit of it is as crappy as the whole.
>>78555068>Annihilate whatever I wish at the cost of 3life per cmc I dont have yet. Nice.>>78555028All mutate cards dont count as permanents when attached.
>>78553393So basically: "we are gradually moving to using the cheapest materials possible and are disguising this transition as environmentalism also please ignore the Secret Lair Packaging."
>>78555375What is this art from? Looks sweet.
>>78555713Dota2
>>78555068I love that card and I still love the idea that the ugly guy isn't being sneaky and checking behind him but instead grossed out by the symbol.
>>78554199People literally give lands with tempt to discovery.
