Respect your elders editionPrevious:>>78544851>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:https://mtgcommander.net/>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.net>CARD SEARCHhttps://scryfall.com>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>How to proxy using any printerhttps://mtgprint.cardtrader.com/>Thread Question:Post a card you would recommend (or have recommended) to someone else, but no longer use yourself.
>TQOverseer of the damned. I desperately wanted to make it work at some point but I understand now that it's just too expensive.
>TQ Obeka. Turns out Kess is just better.
this is going to be a problem, isn't it?
>>78549231I donated my Arcades deck and my Gishath deck to friendly poorfags cuz I already had preferred decks in those colours. Does that count?
>>78549404FUCK all of your fast mana rocks.
>>78549404just counter itnot having counters is just begging for your board state to be ruined
>>78549404It's reslly strong, yes. Kill all the tokens and mana rocks and some utility creatures and power out a torment of hailfire for 20.
>>78549231Inferno titan. The things a house and claps but I became a waifu man and stoneforge mystic is my new build around.
>>78549421You were saying?
what are the best stax creatures / hatebears?
>>78549463Chancellor of the annex
>>78549463The ones that are most effective against your meta, forehead. If no one reanimates, Containment Priest kind of sucks. If everyone is craw ETB creature value, Thalia kind of sucks.
>>78549483Thanks, that's super useful.
>>78549463Kataki, War’s Wage in Selesnya
>>78549463Something that interferes across the board
>>78549483This guy gets it.>>78549463There's no universal answer to this question, because it all depends on what opponents are playing. But if talking about the most versatile, I think gaddock covers a lot of stuff all on its own: most boardwipes are, for example, 4cmc or more. In EDH collector ouphe is also very strong, since most of people run manarocks and/or artifact wincons like isochron or reservoir. And don't forget magistrate, who doesn't lett your opps even play their cummanders.
>>78549404>Be white player>Have amassed my token army>My opponent plays this>Then torment of hailfire me
>>78549231Hate this cringe vampire Faggot
>>78549626Just dr-Just tut-Just have teferis protection in your hand
>>78549626that's why I always carry my friendly neighbourhood black mana
>>78549231is titty edit anon around to fix Nahiri?
>>78549626>not playing Odric and hexproof
>>78549677MaybeJust maybeRun more than one of W's defensive spells if going wide is your strategy?
>>78549722The spell doesn't target thoughAnd even then, odric is only during your turn, from combat onwards
Got a Thrasios as an add during a trade, but I know next to nothing about this format. Usually only play Modern with some friends, but the one guy in the group who actually plays some EDH with others is encouraging me to make use of the card.I don't know much, but from online it seems like having a Thrasios be in your General's slot/zone is basically a non-starter for people, so I spent some time looking for alternatives and found these pairings. Which of the two seems more fun and interesting to play?
>>78549746>implying your opponent is gonna bother to read Odric when they see WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
>>78549495Are there really multiple cunts that get passive aggressive when you don't build their deck for them, or is it just the same dumbass over and over that resents other players trying to teach him how to fish?/tg/ is unironically bad at Magic. If you want a full list that badly, just fucking Google it.
>>78549729All those white defensive spells that give non creature permanents indestructible such as?
>>78549747> these pairingsWhy don't you try not being a faggot and play normal commanders instead of p*rtner bullshit?
>>78549754Yes they will read it, and why would I otherwise try to cheat, what is the point of an unearned win when I don't play for any rewards
>>78549747This is the best trolling post in a while.
>>78549747Pir and Toothy have actual soulif you play left then you're admitting to playing soulless simic tryhard shit with no theming or care for what your commander is, outside of the rules text
>>78549762Why is Heroic Intervention green?
>>78549762>original post references weenies (creatures)>get corrected that W can defend those weenies>move goalposts to other permanentsJackass.
>>78549793Cause WotC took away regenerate, which was the defensive stuff of green, and now they just eat up the white colorpie because they are fags
>>78549793Because green is powerful and must have everything, you fucking bigot.
>>78549793G is nuUR will be nuGW and B will be phased out for Pink and Lavender.
>>78549818The original post references getting your mana rocks destroyed and tormented for 20. Teferis protection or Lapse of Certainty are the only answers
>>78549818So if the weenies were made indestructible, what happens with the Culling? Does the opponent not get mana from indestructible weenies?
>>78549839it's gonna be yellow n purple mark my words. then they'll errata U to B in oracles
>>78549872No, because they werent destroyed.
>>78549872>lol didn't read the card
>>78549463For me, it's Manglehorn.
Gave me commander big ol biddies
>>78549769I liked the blue Sphinx because that draws you a card when Thrasios scrys, but I still need green somehow to run him in the main deck, right? Pir & Tooth was just what my friend recommended as he's seen them before so it would be easy for me to find info on it, while Tooth still gets stronger when you draw with Thrasios.Are there normal commanders that get as good a synergy with Thrasios? If playing any partner pair is going to paint a bigger target on me, then I guess it's better to stick with one?>>78549784So the left pairing has bad thematics and is too disjointed? I thought they would mesh well mechanically, but I also don't know how tryhard that EDH group is. I was under the impression that Pir was pretty strong on his own, I know that there's strong demand for Doubling Season stuff in EDH.>>78549781Glad I could make someone laugh I guess. For the record I don't like blue all that much but I enjoy Amulet Titan in Modern well enough. Any excuse to play big green creatures while drinks are involved sounds like a good time to me.
>>78549943ah a connoisseur of vanilla legend creatures as well I seeI prefer old border though, legends set being at the top of the chain but I respect your choise as well good sir or madam
>>78549793because they took away regenerate.>White is primary in indestructibility>Black/Green are secondary>Red/Blue are tertiaryAnd then>Wizards prints Heroic Intervention. It doesn't cost GW which would at least be a marriage of White's indestructibility and Green's HexxproofMost times when wizards is like "X is primary, Y is secondary" what they are really saying is "Y being secondary is basically free license to print what we want with this color."
>>78549793Because WotC constantly forgets white exists>Heroic Intervention could've been GW>Confounding Conundrum could've been WU
>>78549943It looks like you never seen boobies, but you've got a steady hand and the face is quite good. Give your shading a bit more practice
Is this an actual card? I saw someone flash this on screen in a commander spoiler video as though it were already spoiled, but I can’t find it.
>>78549769you tell him, anon. i bet he runs monarch cards and forces his table to play with such dumb faggotry.
>>78550024The set symbol is too small and it looks pretty fake overall. Which is a shame because I'd love to play it with leyline of the void.
>>78550036>Further research shows it was completely wiped from all spoiler sites after less than an hourGuess it was just an April Fool’s joke that tricked a lot of people.
>>78550024That is not real, but the classic Thunder Cuckolder is fuckin' is
>>78549997To be fair, I am new to alters so it is more the media and size that is giving me trouble as far as the shading goes, I’m gonna try some touch up with colored pencils to see what i can do
>>78550144Good enough, imo. Just keep your brushstrokes clean and intentional, so you don't end up with muddied unpainterly textures like you have in the background here, and all over the first one.Cool rendering of the lighting on the swamp tho.
>>78550024Here is the full image. Also yes it was an april fools joke on a fake commander deck tech.
>>78550144You've got more talent than I've got. Gotta respect it when people take the risk to createAny tips?
>>78550171Looks like you just need to slow down a bit, looks like you’re rushing to get it done and not trying to do the detail work. I’d say refine your lines and add some more shading because right now it’s mostly flat colors
>>78550171That shit is ugly as fuck and looks horrible
>>78549747pir and toothy can be quite fun(but fragile so pack counters), do them
>>78550171To give advice I must first ask, what do you know about art? Are you a total amateur or do you have some training in another medium and are just clumsy with painting small cards?
>>78549712I am reading this, yes. But that Nahiri art has the common problem that there is no high-res full art of her. just a close up shot of her face pretty much. arm would make it a bitch to edit too. a shame, since that art is super hot imo.
>>78549747Tbh the left combo would be pretty strong if you managed to get them both out on the field
>>78550208I'm practicing some simple black and white tokens to try and improve shadows>>78550254I'm a life long amateur with notably bad fine motor skills. I have some books with tips for starters, but that's it.
I completely forgot this card existed.
>>78550293Ive played it one time and I won on the spot because of it. Its not teferis protection but its still a blowout.
>>78550293White does have a few of those effects, but most of them cost more than Heroic Intervention.
>>78550285Starting in grayscale is a good idea. You should start with SIMPLE SHAPES first. If you haven't shaded 100 each of spheres, cones and cylinders, you should not be moving onto more complex shapes like peanuts and ropes.I'll give you an exercise that I recommend to nearly everybody who wants to develop their artistic skills. Find a bag. Grab a bunch of differently-shaped, relatively small random objects from around the house. Put them in bag. Without looking into the bag, take one item out at random without looking at it. Hold that item under the table with one hand to feel it, and paint / draw it with the other. Do a full-detail drawing of it entirely through visualisation, without looking at it once.This really helps connect all the parts of the brain you want to connect to be good at art. Trains 3d visualisation, connects motor skills to that visualisation.
>>78550333Righteous trips, I'll follow your tips
>>78550359As with everything, developing your skills of an artist is a process of building fundamentals upon each other through practice and study.In terms of art, it is mostly practice, but studying art history and anatomy are great to do too.
>>78549993They don't, white is intentionally ignored because it's a boring color to design.
>>78550331>Heroic Intervention is both stronger and cheaper than all these, except maybe flawless maneuver with your commander out.
>>78550359those sketches look good. but the coloring process seems to bleed quite a bit making the colors muddy and the edges inaccuratewe postan' alters now? I still haven't made anything new
>>78550465lovin' dat half-submerged swamp symbol yo
>trannies whining about green againboth black and blue are stronger colors than green lmao
>>78550510> tranny trying to deflect once morePls stop, we all know gr*en is the most broken color currently.
>>78550510I'd say green has firmly replaced black in EDH power hierarchy
Exiling things that arent in the graveyard or someone's hand should be removed from the game.
IMO this offers the best card draw for monogreen ever.
>>78550256Yeah, the artist does have the full art on his website but it's not high resolution. Shame since wotc has a high res version on their own site but it's zoomed in slightly too much
>>TQI ended up taking it out of my Yawgmoth deck but suggested that my friend put it in his Mowu deck.
>>78550516>>78550541>NOOOOOOOO HOW CAN HE TURN SIDEWAYS?!?!?!
>>78550586>social justice wizardkek based
>>78550581Nahiri looks like a black tranny covered in flour.
>>78550549It's ehh. Only triggering when you play a land and not when a land enters under your control limits its usefulness to shells that are running tons of extra land drop cards like Asuza.
>>78550510>>78550541Blue is hard to disagree with.you are in an EDH thread.you know what is really good in EDH, a format where you start with 40 HP and everyone fights each other?Drawing cards and Ramping mana.On the flipside, burn, and aggro really suck for similar reasons.Black is a colour that can do all the above, but even with coffers and similar shenanigans, you would be a fool to say it is stronger than green in that regard or stronger than blue in carddraw.Black is somewhat of a holistic colour, but just looking at the groundrules for EDH you can already see the scew towards blue and green.Also, pushed green biggies that dont see any play in any format but EDH where they reck everyhing.
>>78550586> gr*enigger seething so muchProjections check out.
>>78550614> stronger than blue in carddrawSo what exactly is strong about blue carddraw, given we're not using green's and black's (and even red's) mana generators to fuel draw X spells? There is treasure cruise, of course, but apart from that? Enlighten me, because all I see are cantrips and stuff like coastal piracy which require going wide with evasion.
>>78550611I Azusa, exploration, gaea's touch, sylvan courser, etc under Ashaya.
Post the colors in order of most based to least based
>go to LGS for commander night>trade some cards with a regular >sit down to play some games>lose the first and win the second>win the third in a very close game>crack a pack on the way out and get a card worth $25i love playing commander
>>78550684Red blue green white black
>>78550694No you don't.
A friend is making a deck around a commander that I'm pretty sure will be impossible to actually make a strong deck with.I'm pretty sure all the decks I have built will just utterly curbstomp it, would it be insulting to suggest that I play a precon against his new deck?
>>78550720just adjust your deck or make a budget one to play against it you sperg
>>78550647I am sorry I know sometimes arguments can start because the intentions of the posts are unclear.I am not talking about mono-blue.Do you remember how everyone used to groan about monoblack control? usually erebos at the helm.I am talking about this because with unlimited budget (or high enough)the strongest monocolour deck you can build may be monoblack. this again is because of their spread of abilities aswell as access to tutors.since green also gets carddraw green is a decent monocolour aswell. blue has shortcomings as a mono colour.But tell me, is everybody at your table just playing monocolour decks? I barely see them.If you just want to look at monoclour decks thats fine but not representative of reality.It is about whether a deck also contains green/blue. looking at the cards in a vacuum is insencere.
>>78550720Which commander?>>78550694I don't love 1v1 commander
>>78550720two options, help him built it and make it strong or just make a depowered deck to play against himI suggest something Gruul
>anti-green trannies still going with their mental gymnastics
>>78550767>Do you remember how everyone used to groan about monoblack control? usually erebos at the helm.Mono-B was never the strongest in my pods back in the day. Usually it was like Grixis or Bant. Remember when Rafiq just shit on everything?>I am talking about this because with unlimited budget (or high enough)the strongest monocolour deck you can build may be monoblackNowadays it's definitely Blue, especially with Urza or Teferi at the helm. I also would say that Yisan and Selvala btfo any commander mono-Black could run. Maybe Yawgmoth but that's it.>blue has shortcomings as a mono colour.I would argue that any shortcomings blue has are eclipsed by the shortcomings of any other color>But tell me, is everybody at your table just playing monocolour decks? I barely see them.Personally, I mainly play mono-color. I like the flavor better>If you just want to look at monoclour decks thats fine but not representative of reality.Mate, you're the one that brought them up
>>78550853Nice ad hominem.I want to remind you that we are on an anonymous imageboard making your claim of knowing any specifics about those disagreeing with you very unlikely.>mental gymnasticsUsually people will admit theyre wrong when you show them the shortcomings of their argumentation. you are not doing that.
is theft fun? I'm tempted to make a memnarch deck purely because I want myr and this card in particular
>>78550959>is theft fun?It's highly dependent on your pod. Both in the decks your opponents use and how salty they'll get if you steal their shit
I wanna storm off with endless 1 cmc goblins and artifacts turned into goblins.The average cmc of this deck is crazy low
>>78550959I played against a menmarch last week. It's not too powerfull but pretty intimidating, so you'll be taken out first
>>78550896slight misunderstanding yet again. when I was talkinga bout black being the strongest monocolour I didnt mean to compare it to multicolour decks.the point of mono-B being the strongest colourcombination at any given point in time was never made by me. It was anecdotal to highlight the strengths of black.I agree with most everything else that you said, I completely forgot Urza. Monoblue artifacts is really strong.I did not bring up monocolour decks first, check this post.>>78550647he wanted to compare blue carddraw "without using the tools of the other colours. which would be a mono-deck, right?simic is strong because ramp+carddraw+counterspells+good creatures.very complementary.
>>78550980I don't really have one yet just one mate who is very chill and randoms I sit down with at LGS
>>78550767> It is about whether a deck also contains green/blueThen just name it UGx. Because on its own blue isn't that great. Green can actually draw even better than blue.
I want to relentlessly suckle on Professor Onyx's titties for extra credit
>>78551044>blue alone is bad>blue in combination with another colour is really potent.>therefor blue not that great?I already made a post that this is not about monocolour for me. Noone stops you from building multicolour in EDH.Also, just to bring in another anon,>>78550896as you can see the opinion on blues powerlevel varies greatly.>green can actually draw better than bluewe went full circle, really amazing. this all started with a guy claiming green isnt that strong, now youretelling me green draws better than blue. not saying you are the same anon, just funny to see every single opinion represented in this thread.
>>78551131Rowan and Kasmina are just down the hall
>>78551131I'm sorry but the lore for this set seems cute as hell, king ken comes back so the brother and sister get to apply to a mage college and have fun adventures with kasmina watching their back, and they get to meet powerful planeswalkers from around the world and get into weird house vs house hygiencs.Might actually read my first magic lore book
>>78549404Best card in the set
>>78551223Maybe they'll drive a wedge between them eventually and then one will be the next villain
>>78549394soi ring lol
>>78551207>as you can see the opinion on blues powerlevel varies greatlyThere are a lot of actual retards and pretend retards in this general. You also get smart people so of course there are a large amount of varying opinions.
>>78551223Someone will make a mirror dimension where the competing schools are the the allied colors and the two schools go to war and we find out it was Jin Gitaxia's doing.
>>78551223>I'm sorry but the lore for this set seems cute as hellGo back
>>78550647Mystic Remora and Rhystic StudyTimetwister, Time Spiral and WindfallConsecrated SphinxPlus you have tools to fuel your X spells through your strong artifact synergies, hullbreacher treasure tokens, or high tide.
>>78551259should not always just assume everybody who has a differing opinion is retarded. maybe their experiences vary. what if somebody only plays on a budget?what seems like the strongest colour for newer players?whats strong at "25%"? "50%?I know this "powerlevels open up a whole new rabbithole, just saying that if youd knew where anons are coming from you might understand them.
>>78551241maybe if we could have blocks again so actual lore could happen, but that time is overyou will forever be cucked into playing Will alongside Rowan
>>78551241>lili starts teaching rowan necromancy and gives her a boob window>rowan becomes rakdos
>>78551283>the DnD set is a raid on the mirror school's dungeon
>>78551207> on blues powerlevelThe question was about blue's ability to draw, not the powerlevel. I played urza a lot myself, I know how shitty your normal monoU draw options are. Urza is powerful because of his strong non-mirrored stax options and the ability to have more mana than your usual monoU deck, and he's also an infinite mana outlet all by himself.For example, UW or UR won't be that great at drawing either except it's just wheels all the time> a guy claiming green isnt that strongWell he's a typical gr*enigger, no surprise. Green has shit like Greater Good, for example, it has strong draw engines based on creatures (and green is very good at playing big creatures). If talking about monogreen, there's always something like life's finale, momentous fall, return of the wildspeaker, hunter's insight, rishkar's expertise. There's stuff like guardian project, great henge and beast whisperer that just turn your every creature card into a cantrip.But the worst offender is obviously simic, no other color combination draws as much as simic, maybe black is close to it with necropotence or villis, but it has fewer options than green or UGx.>>78551305> Mystic RemoraIt's not a good card in normal pods.> Rhystic StudyEverybody just pays 1 unless they're winning, you can't seriously consider study a reliable draw engine.> Consecrated SphinxIt's very expensive for monoU and usually draws no more than 2 cards.> Timetwister, Time Spiral and WindfallFirst is more expensive than your life and should be banned for powerlevel reasons, second is 6 mana and you just lose instantly if it doesn't resolve, windfall isn't reliable unless you're already ahead on cards.> hullbreacherThis shit should be banned too, I hate how degenerate that card is and refuse to put it into any of my decks same with opposition agent.
>>78551412>everyone just lays the 1 unless they are winningThis is literally the only sentence I have read out of your post besides the words rhystic study, and I can already tell you dont play EDH.If you are giving advice, please stop now.
>>78551412>This shit should be banned too, I hate how degenerate that card is and refuse to put it into any of my decks same with opposition agent.Same, both cards disgust me.
>>78551223>hygiencs.the dark speech
I wish I could see a japanese person's reaction when they pull an American faithless looting mystic archive
>>78551412>windfall isn't reliable unless you're already ahead on cards.Well you're in Blue so... you should be good. Also, Windfall is great when paired with Cyc Rift and/or WARset
>>78551317Blue is the best color regardless of budget.
>>78551131this as high res as it gets with that one?
I'm kinda sick of making more "lmao I win now"-piles, what are the most interactive commanders, /edhg/?
>>78549712idk anon, my copy looks fine
>>78549404THEY CALLED ME A MADMAN FOR PLAYING 3 CMC MANA ROCKSBUT WHOS LAUGHING NOW
>>78549404>>78551791Jimmy and Josh been real quiet since this witherbloom bitch blew their asses out
>>78551686So for 8 mana I can give 10 damage to two targets? just me or is it useless?
Watch the best way to build him will be just solid Voltron with protection and pump spells, no nonsense Voltron
>>78551847Stop shilling your dumb dragon>>78551824>just me or is it useless?It's not a spell you spend 8 mana on. It's a spell you top deck or tutor mid-late game for creature, planeswalker or straight up player removal
>>78551847>Watch the best way to build him will be just solid Voltronyeah no shit, it's boros
>>78551861>Stop shilling your dumb dragonNo.
>>78551890>UpdateI want to like him because I love Kopinski but he has that dumb goblin face that Nicol Bolas has on his Core 19 card. It reminds me of the "Mmm...grayons..." meme
>>78551823what does that mean?
>>78551964They've recently been insisting that mana rocks that cost more than 2CMC are not good enough anymore.
>>78551847Hes so bad what the fuck?
>>78551978None of them play cEDH because they'd get their ass beat by anyone that actually knows how to playAll Mtg ecelebs are cancer for the format.
>>78551978Theyre right and one card doesn't change that
>>78551890i cant wait for you to build him just to waste a bunch of money on a shit deck because he is 7mv
>>78552046>this retard is still going on about this despite being disproven 5+ threads agosheer autism
>>78552066>still using cmc
>>78552066not him, but it's short for mana value. it's replacing 'converted mana cost' on card text. i'm neutral on the matter but it'll be weird getting used to saying the new thing
>>78552084it's bait, ignore himonly people who disappoint their parents use mana value over cmc
>>78552066>>78552084mana value. its the total cost of the card including X spells. like if you converted the total mana a spell costs into a single number>>78552082i dont despise 5mv+ commanders as i run shit like wort and zacama but you need to be realistic about it aka be in green. boros will never make it to 7mv cards because it sucks shit at ramp. this is an absolutely known and accepted fact in commander and you would be retarded to think otherwise
>>78551978Of course low CMC rocks are more efficient, but is an Arcane Signet much better than a Commander's Sphere? Not really.
>>78552147In Magic? Yes. Pretty much everything new in Magic is bad from the art to the worldbuilding to the game itself.
>>78550932Ahahahahaha nice one man
>>78549423One of those spells will get countered if there isnt some minamo type untap effect
Recommend me a fun Dimir lad. Just no basic junk like Yuriko or Scarab or something.
>>78551223>hygiencsIt's hijinks reddit-kun
>>78552160>>78552165>magic art was so good back in the day man *graduated high school last year*
>>78550684B W R U G
>>78551686So for 11 mana each opponent takes 15Could be ok as a finisher in a Painful Quandary deck or something
>>78552245Right unironically looks better though.
>>78552222The wincon is your opponents making bad decisions because they are mentally exhausted from all the piles
>>78552245>>78552249>literal childs painting
>>78552256As always the problem is not art but what shows that art.
>>78552222Dralnu or Circu. Also, nice digits.
>>78552245god early magic art was so bad
>>78549932but thanosanon, where's white?
Imagine hating the Foglios
>>78552275>muh black peopleVery fragile, anon.
>>78552272phil foglio is garbage, his wife draws pretty nice brown girls though
>>78552258pile tribal does seem funny
>>78552272Foglio?Bad Choice to pick anon.
>>78552245Soul vs soulless
>>78552287White is entirely unnecessary, it should just be replaced by colorless.
>>78552272Haha hell yeah dude, it'd be so much better if it was in corporate moba style like current mtg. No need to post again anon, you got it so right the first time haha.
>>78552296It's almost as if I can't breath.
>>78552313>NOOOOOOOOO STOP SHOWING EXAMPLES THAT PROVE ME WRONG
>>78552289I can't imagine it desu.
>>78552324>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD NEW BAD
>>78552329I made a proxy for linden, it's not very fitting but better than that for sure, i can post when i get to my pc
>>78552245What the fuck. Old good new bad! Stop breaking my headcanon!
>>78552348this but Unironically
>>78552336That's not Foglio dummy.
>>78552353If it's mpc formatted, yes pls
>>78552353Thx, I would appreciate that. Representation can be ridiculous and this is top ridiculous.
>>78552379based retard anon
>>78552245The right one has better art, but the left one reads better on something small like a card.I think some artist strikes both well, Karl kopinski is clear and good for a card.Shoutout to Stormtide Leviathan
>>78552228>>78552245>>78552272>>78552289>>78552336Unironically more soulful that whatever pastel shit we get today. And i say this as a newfag who started in dominaria.
>>78552348I don't know why you posted the Reddit wojack, they fucking love current MtG>>78552336You could at least pick the truly bad cards like Giant Strength. Also, no card in old border has worse art than Mystic Archive Faithless Looting
>>78552289Foglios are a mix to me. They have some great art like Sorceress Queen (But Dakmoor Sorceress is better) and some cringe art like Presence of the Master.
>>78552396She isn't even bad or unwanted as a card. She just has zero place on Eldraine. She would have been cool in Amonkhet.
>nothing but amazing banger art in old magic guise!>*slams back an IPA*
How is there not a creature that does this ultimate yet?
>>78550160you can tell its fake just by the set symbol
>>78552426Those do look like boars.
Little brain exercise for you /edhg/.Ok, so boardstate picture, here is the scenario:>Whirlpool Warrior has already been played in conjunction with Hullbreacher to make enough treasure to cast Locust God. It resolves.>The sacrifice cost on Whirlpool Warrior is paid>Maintain priority and cast Mystic Reflection targeting Whirlpool Warrior>3 cards in hand>Purphoros GotF out>83 cards left in deckWhat happens?
>>78552415Soulful is code for ugly
>>78552426>Wow! Look at how much soul old mtg had! Really great flavor!
>>78552427Creatures generally don't get emblems.
>>78552427Tuvasa?>>78552426The thing about Durkwood Boars is that they're easy to recognize across from a table so it's good formatted well. As opposed to this which is just shit up close and far away
>>78552424She is Ophra the card. I would not be mad at an African set that is flavourful and full of niggers. But at least made them to look heroic. That card is top cringe.
>OLD SO GOOD!
However much you hate strixhaven, at least it's not fucking kaldheim jesus christ.
>>78552476>ITS SO AWFUL YOU CAN RECOGNIZE IT IMMEDIATELY holy fucking cope batman
>>78552482She would have fit naturally into the elder matriarch role in some village that Niambi visits. The whole thing with her and Kenrith was so pants on head retarded.
>>78552147You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>78552426No one has said that all old art is amazing.
>>78552491They're both shit. We felt for Kaldheim more because many had high hopes for it and there was a particular element of subversion to how bad it was.
>>78552463Justin Hampton has a lot of art that's more miss than hit but at least we got great arts like Ritual of Subdual and Dark Ritualhttps://scryfall.com/search?q=a%3A%E2%80%9CJustin+Hampton%E2%80%9D&unique=art
>>78551412anon you replied to here, went shopping but would like to adress this.You are not wrong with anythinbg you said, if thats what you want to hear. green has great carddraw options and definitely benefits the most from a 40 hp battle royale gamemode simply because ramping three turns in a row wont almost kill you and noone is playing aggro.I dont feel like our perspective is that different: we are in agreement that simic is too good, but you keep on bringing up the monocolour decks, which I did never intended to talk about as in a regular game(for me) almost noone plays monocolour. I hope it doesnt feel to you like I am moving the goalpost, i would rather like to think that communication cant be perfect over an anonymous imageboard and I didnt make my intentions clear enough.
>>78552491Its worse, by orders of magnitude. It might be up there with Battlebond and Ikoria as worst sets ever.The overlap with Battlebond is... staggering.
>i love these new magic cards, they're so full of representation and inclusivity>maybe my wife's bf will take me to a game store where i can play some games while sipping my favourite microbrewery craft beer>and then come to my inner city apartment (rent is only $2000!) and do some adulting and then hang out with my furbabies!
>>78552476Is that an Asian?
>>78552514>look mom i copied pasta again!
>>78552491People were clamoring for a full Viking set for over a decade. Kaldheim had a lot of hype going into it but then it became Smug Blacks and Women: the Set. It had higher expectations whereas Strixhaven from the beginning was always going to be Harry Potter: the Set
>>78552476Oh true, I forgot about tatyova and aesi, was thinking monogreen
>>78552514>seething this hard that you are getting mad fun of on an anonymous north korean octopus breeders forum
>>78552519Ritual of Subdual is kinda meh though
>>78552484Lol, I love that one.
>>78552530>one new card being bad = all old cards good
>>78552524I think Ikoria takes the cake as the worst set ever. Literally everything about it was awful.>>78552500If you look at old cards, they were often drawn to be recognizable at a distance/glance
>>78552530>I hope you can stay for 4 hours, I ordered grub hub from the kebab place at the corner.>yeah 4 hours to get here>yeah its on the corner>what do you mean you'll walk?
>>78552557Don't try and reason with it anon, you will only waste your time.
>>78552491I dislike this even more. A cheap ripoff of Hogfarts. Nigheim was really insulting, but this one is plain boring.
>>78552533my mom is quite proud of me and my pastas, i guess you can't really make them proud anymore, huh?
>>78552568Cards like Ihsan's Shade were nice in a shitty metal album cover way.
>>78552557>implying only one new card is bad>one old card being bad = all new cards good
>>78552540I like how wotc tried to slow roll the snow stuff until people said the set would fail if snow wasn't there, then they dumped it all the same day out of fear.Then they did the same with Strixhaven and tried to downplay the HP vibes by not spoiling some of the cards that are HP distilled.Wotc lives in fear of their fanbase and I find it hilarious.
>>78552530Do showcase arts have different art? Or just extended frame?I want a 3rd simic ramp deck for some reason
>>78552491i bought 0 cards from kaldheim and ill probably buy 0 cards from strixhaven
>>78552591ur moms retarded
I'm not going to say mana value
>>78552568Ikoria takes the cake, easily. An entire set being a thinly veiled excuse to pander to sexual deviants is not what my fun children's card game should be doing.
>>78552588>>78552491>Tolarian Academy is a better Magic school than Strixhaven>Ice Age is a better viking set than KaldheimEmbarassing>>78552596We don't get cards that really look/feel like old school black anymore
>>78552608>I want a 3rd simic ramp deckanon you're part of the problem
>>78552540I don't know why some people still trust JotC in any capacity, no offense.
>>78552630you just did tho
I like artwork from before it became LoL rejects, because it was unique and therefore easier to remember. Now yes the artwork is pretty but its SO FORGETFUL! It's so damn generic its hard to remember. Whereas more unique artwork is so memorable you can see what card is on the table on the opposite side without taking a direct look at it.
>>78552613The most based poster here
>>78552591I showed my mom your post and she said you were cute. I asked her if she'd make you a grilled cheese and she said yes.>>78552630I'm always going to ask what the value is when converted into a mana cost.
>>78552635>crusaders are burning in hellwhat did they mean by this?
>>78552607When WotC will be cancelled? It's just a matter of time.
>>78552666You should know Catholics aren't real Christians, Satan.
i havent seen anyone talk about this
>>78552639This is literally a dude in a dress isn't it?
>>78552491I preferred Kaldheim. Strixhaven is the dullest set in the history of MTG.
>>78552635>>Tolarian Academy is a better Magic school than Strixhaven>>Ice Age is a better viking set than Kaldheim
>>78552458It goes infinite and you win with Purphoros
>>78552645I miss when my fantasy game still looked like fantasy and not the cover of some YA novel
>>78552613I stoped at Eldraine. I'm only in this to watch the trainwreck.
>>78552645I mean the good art is on the cards that matter, you remember what winota looks like, you remember what koma looks like.Who gives a shit about a weird common you'll never play
>>78552674Someone just needs to find actual proof of them knowing about what was happening with the Judge program. Show all the judge promos with kids in the art if you have to to draw the connection.That or get an interview and ask them on record about what they mean by value when deciding on reprints. A real court case about them manipulating the secondary market would really fuck them.
>>78552688The 5cmc Simic exile boardwipe is far more egregious but all the WotC bootlickers are giving it a pass
>>78552129>only green ramps wellwhere do these fucking retardos come from? reddit?
>>78552688whats there to talk about. you are just going to pack it full with broken simic mythic cards and copy them with all the new broken copiers that ignore the legend rule and shit. yet another broken as fuck simic commander you are going to have to suffer through at your table for the next year
>>78552685>t. Syrian Orthodox Church believer
>>78552688Good card, but at 5 cmc or above, I know better than to get attached to a commander
>>78552688>simic>6cmc>4/4>restriction>"mathematician">nightmare to play against itPass, cool art tho.
>>78552689Based and hereticpilled.
>>78552704i dont really hate the sets themselves so much as the constant flow of se3ts i need to pay attention to and the 3-5 new auto includes per set. that and i just didnt really care about anything in the last few sets. nothing really made me want to build around it. i feel like we are just getting lazily designed cards that just double different triggers which seemingly is going to be the new do thing draw card meme
>>78552715If simic getting an exile wrath at 5cmc won't make people wake up nothing will.
>>78552706>Who gives a shit about a weird common you'll never playMe
>>78552716i didnt say that you dumb waste of oxygen i said boros is shit at rampingkill yourself
>>78552733I'm not even catholic, its just a great quote by a wise man. Reading the quote made me look up who Davila even was and I learned something I hadn't known before.Stay edgy though.
>>78552713None of that would drive the woke crowd mad mind you. Allegations of Maro looking at some employee boobies on the other hand...
>>78552688>cast it on curve>get terror'd, or path to exile'd>scoop
>>78552750Don't ask questions. Just buy product and be ready to consume more product
>>78552733Do not associate Gnon with orthozoomers or tradcaths. Learn to fear God or he will end you.
>>78552747I wish I cared about anything this much, you could tell me theres a million dollars waiting for me in that water, and I wouldnt even try to fight for it.
>>78552768The woke crowd doesn't matter much when you have the full weight of a governmental body like the FCC breathing down your neck.
>>78552750It's also the numbing of so many releases.
>>78552772My friend who is exactly this type of player is building him lol
>>78552781The best thing that could ever happen to Magic: the Gathering is for WotC to die. They've killed or are killing every format
>>78552757>t. waifu coomer
>>78552790Less releases, and bring back 3 sets per plane visit and things will be a lot better.
It's happening again.Who spoils what today? iirc it's the orzhov precon.
>>78552763It's a cringe quote posted by zoomers wanting to feel better about not having sex.
>>78552781But I was talking about getting cancelled, not actual serious charges. The woke mob turning their back on WotC. What will happen sooner or later.
>>78552798Agreed. A small part of me enjoys that the entire game got ruined by wotc trying to court edh into all formats. A homebrew made by the fans killed the game as soon as the parent company tried playing along. The irony is out of this world.
>>78552776>Do not associate Gnon with orthozoomers or tradcathslol who do you think it's associated with?
>>78552800Mate, there area ton of dogshit unplayable cards with great art
>>78552817Muddstah, and he said it’s going up in an hour and twenty.
>>78552809I'm Ok with two sets, but one set seems attention deficit syndrome.
>>78552818Lol imagine getting this upset at the mere idea of others living a more fulfilling life than you.Is the void of your existence really that terrible?
>>78552348If you prefer a homogenous art style thats you preference.A big selling point for me to get into magic was the high variety of artists and art.of course there is a lot of unpolished stuff but for me this just made the cards more memorable. and for every terrible card that was really out there there was an iconic piece that was equally out there. nowadays all the cards are "in" if you catch my meaning.no reason to cherrypick or strawman dude, I like variety in my artstyles and you dont. thats all there is to it.
>>78552847Chesterton readers of course, who are totally not tradcath zoomers.
>>78552823That is already happening. You just need to go to those woke communities and imply wotc isn't doing enough. They will tear each others throats out trying to out virtue each other.
>>78552850I know. It really bothers me to see cards with amazing art that go unused.And Wizards pushing some "funny" shit card to be played.
>>78552818Alright zoomer. Not everything is about sex. The only reason leftist zoomers put down religion is the fact that it doesn't allow them to have sex.
>>78552861>posting romantic cope quotes on 4chan>living a more fulfilling life
>>78552878Nothing upsets me more than them reprinting cards and replacing the flavor text with quips.
>>78552865There are still stinkers every set but we no longer get the highest of highs
>even mentioning faith structures has her freaking outPathetic. Seek absolute morality.
>>78552874That's the default state of the woke mob. to get them into a frenzy they need a rallying point to attack like the virtue signaling piranhas they are.
>>78552883Religion does allow sex though, it's just a common pretext for incelhood among virgin zoomers.
>>78552894Don't even get me started on Obliterate
>>78552924Like chandra not being gay enough? You just need to be the hammer, you already know what wedges work.
>>78551978I mean, they were right up until this card's release, and if you are ramping out fast, you should have a counter prepared against this. To CEDH, where everyone has counterspells ready turn 2 on, this card doesnt dramatically rock the boat, its just another good card
>>78552924Wait, how does that card work with spells that have X in their mana value in addition to other pips, such as itself? Wouldn't that spells mana value be 2?
>>78552924That card isn't half bad.
>>78552887He is right you know. To reduce life to sex is the epitome of banality. The quote has nothing to do with romance.>>78552861>>78552870Gnon hates everyone who insists on an infertile or degenerative and futureless path.
>>78552954and outside of cedh people play 3cmc rocks. This card isn't going to be the haymaker everyone is making it out to be. Its good though, just not autoinclude like everyone assumes. Very meta dependant.
>>78552894Alternatively love to see when quips are replaced with better flavor text, especially when they describe how the card actually works.
>>78552961This is fine art.>>78552973I don't know what a Gnon is.
>>78552967It's pretty bad. You're losing two cards to maybe kill one creature, something black can do cheaper already.
>>78552979>In this moment I am euphoric: the flavortextIts still a quip, you just didn't recognize it.
>Pathetic. Seek absolute morality.
>>78552966Xis always 0>>78552967Of course it's not
>>78552973>doesn't know what romanticism meansAnon...
>>78552997Try it in a deck that actually wants to discard cards like Dredge.
Everyone on 4chan has an art degree
>>78552997card advantage is irrelevant. You wouldn't be casting Shoal with the alternate cost if you couldn't afford to pitch the card.
>>78552985>This is fine art.Lol, no. Horrible character design.
>>78552927Yes, but religion does not allow leftist zoomers to have sex, which is why they hate it so much. Marriage is a requirement of traditional christianity for sex.Religion or no, zoomers are a bunch of moralistic coomers.
>>78552966>>78553013X is 0 everywhere but the stack. While on the stack, the declared value of X contributes to the cmc. An important distinction for things like Disdainful Stroke and casting X spells through Void Winnower.
>>78553047And horrible composition.
>>78552275wait so are will and rowan black or what happened here
>>78553047No it isn't. Having a halcyon glow is very apropos for a guy on Theros that is rallying people to heroics.I'll wait as you look up halcyon and why its a good fit for Theros.
>>78553068They're rape babies from when Kenrith was brainwashed
>>78553029>Try it in a deck that actually wants to discard cards like Dredge.At what point do you discard a card, Anon>>78553039>card advantage is irrelevantI remember when I first started playing this game as well.
>>78553049There is nothing wrong with moralism when reality is predicated on the whim of an absolute authority.
>>78553084It is irrelevant when discussing casting a card. You wouldn't be using the alt cost if you couldn't afford to pitch the card. You are the type of person to horde curatives in a jrpg. If I'm worried about card advantage I'd just Mind Twist you.
>>78553049>Marriage is a requirement of traditional christianity for sexA requirement you will never have to bother with.
>>78553024Romantic, in the sense of the zoomer motivations behind memes in question, and romanticism are quite different. You cannot possibly be that stupid, it must be a pretense.
>>78553087Then everything is wrong with moralism.
>>78553137You reek of being 14. If you are older you are mentally stunted. You are being told this on 4chan, put that into perspective.
here's to hoping the other orzhov legend is not dogshit like the pigeon
>>78553125>had to google romanticism>pretending he knows what he's talking aboutSad
>>78553107>not Mind SwordsI'm not going to blow two cards just to maybe kill one creature. Just because the mana cost of a card is "free" doesn't make it a good card. FoW and FoN are good because of what they do, not solely because they're "free"
>>78553120>look i called him an incel again
>>78552817It's wh*te so get ready for trash and Maybe a few playable black cards by accident,
>>78553149>You are being told this on 4chanBy a zoomer who actually thinks he has got central philosophical questions figured out it seems.
>>78553070Dude, who cares about that shit, it's a eight armed grey sexless alien without features in a buddhist pose with weird shoulders, a stone over it's head, funny ears and muzzle in a Harry Potter setting outdoors.
>>78553168>stop reminding me!
>>78553152You should drop all hope right now.
>>78553087Only a fool would presume to know the ultimate authority. He proves himself to us by means of punishment. We do not prove ourselves to him. To say otherwise is not to fear God.>>78553120Please stop speaking about yourself. Psychological projection is just one of the means employed by people like you.
>>78553200>>78553200New, move whenever
>>78553180I'm in my 40s with children your age my man. I own a business and paid off my mortgage while you are struggling to pay your cell phone bill.
>>78553190Seems like a cool idea for an ancient magical being that is alien to the people living there now. I like the theory that they are inverse eldrazi.
>>78553162When I say good I'm not speaking exclusively of EDH. It sees play in 1 Vs.1 formats. In eternal actually, where speed is key and discarding a card can be even useful if you want that card in the graveyard actually.
>>78553210You're a zoomer who just learned about deontological ethics, no married 40yo is this wide-eyed.
>>78553195Why trannies are so sex obsesed?
The new art direction of MtG is a sign of change in the relationship between companies and the consumer: while some decades ago the means to provide a complete and complex product were not achieveable these days it is standard corporation praxis: The market is understood better, its easier to manipulate people because we have more access to behavioral data and products are designed to make your life as easy as possible.There are many implications coming from this but the one I want to focus on is Imagination.Imagination is the ability to think something up yourself.most of the time this does not start from nothing but is rather led into a direction by some form of media you consumed. Corporations trying to make your life easier also means they provide a holistic experience in entertainment, which requires as little imagination as possible because it is all provided for.When I was young I masturbated to the thought of women. i spun my own ideas in my head. Here I was infinitely free. the easy access to porn in this age makes it obsolete to use your brain, you can just look. of course there were porn magazines back then, but those were immovable pictures which required you to at least imagine your part.modern mtg art is a holistic homogenous experience drawing the world you experience for you. old mtg art suggested a picture and made you figure out the rest.make of this what you will, imagination is not neccesarily important, but I yearn for the days where human marketing psychology was not as understood.
>>78553223As inscrutable aliens go that one design is pretty crappy. You could alaways talk buddhism with it I suppose.
>>78553210>succesful 40yo>still feels the need to shitpost on 4chinglel
>>78553250Why aren't you?
>>78553234>When I say good I'm not speaking exclusively of EDHWhat thread do you think you're in?>discarding a cardYou're exiling a card as a cost. I guess you could argue that you're "discard"ing shoal but only a retard puts himself -2 with only one going to the yard.
>>78553269>shitpostingIs that what you think is going on? I just called you sad. Get a grip on your life.
>turn 1 plains sol ring into fellwar stone into mana vault>turn 2 mountain into Velomachus wow that was hard XD7 CMC Boros guys so hard to cast :P
>>78553251moving picture porn isn't real either, grandpa. we youngns have to imagine our part and do not run out of theaters because a train was coming right at us on the screen
>>78553276Because for a tranny is an exercise in frustration. Every time you call someone incel remids you your own impossibility to have sex like a real woman.It's a circle of pain. I feel sorry for you anon.
>Is that what you think is going on? I just called you sad.
>>78553294>What thread do you think you're in?I know you are just being stupid, bu a card being good or bad is not only EDH related.
>>78553339Every time you get called an incel it reminds you of your impossibility to have sex tho
>>78552530My main gripe is that she has giant pauldrons? Why would an adolescent math student need pauldrons of any kind in the classroom. Why the hell do contemporary artists draw pauldrons on every fucking fantasy character since 2004?
>>78553384You don't know, you can hit or miss, but being a tranny it's 100% accurate for you and the one hurting you is yourself. No wonder 45%.
>>78553420It's pretty obvious you are
>>78553308>Five cards out of hand for a 7 mana dragon that gets sword's to plowshare >Can non longer cast and have an empty handGod, Boros is such a good color my dude.
Where are my Silverquill spoilers? I wanna see just how out of touch Sheldon is with his format.
>>78553543half an hour
Have they shown the format staple yet from these decks? They always have one completely over tuned card like Dockside or True Name Nemesis, but so far none of these decks feel like they really have a banger yet.
>>78553251There are a few based artists in MtG though still, Seb is still god tier and his work is insanely imaginative.
>>78553842I love this card. I play it whenever possible.
>>78553690Cursed Mirroridc about the other decks
>>Want to play Ajani's Chosen>>The only tokens printed that match the ones it makes look like shit