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>Previous thread:
>>77693233
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my eldar project is almost over.
How the hell can anyone hate them? All my dire avengers are posed completely differently and dynamically, why do most players just put their rifle on their hands in typical fashion and have them all be samefags?

Muh dudes are all unique and I didnt even need to convert to do it, just used the different poses.
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I have 7x7 plague marines, and 7 HQs.

How many terminators should I get?
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No tq?
TQ: Do you make an effort to make all your infantry look different to one another?
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>>77698687
With posing.
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>>77698727
Fair! I just made some dire avengers and you can have SO many poses, but I have only ever seen people do the boring as shit holding gun pose x4, makes them look bad
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>>77698685
7
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>>77698727
The reduced number of poses has been a blight of GW's new, high detail sculpts. At least back when they were shit no one who didn't put a hundred together would notice if you cut off a piece of the arm to change how it sets. Now you've gotta have a master's in greenstuff filigree scuplting if you want to move a giant should a few degrees.
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>>77698687
Yeah, I heat my nid tails so I can curve them in different directions
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>>77698839
That only works with resin right?
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Dark Eldar box price going up to 55 dollars.
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>>77698685
digits in OP are the answer
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>>77698872
>>77698781

One with each weapon it is, then. Im a collector anyways.
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>>77698857
Resin you can do it with water, I was talking about my plastic nids which I use a lighter for. Have to be careful but its not that difficult to do
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>>77698830
Not him, but that's been a recurring issue. I used to make new general images all the time, but some fag was intent on minimizing the general content to what he could copy and paste on his NGage. Shit started happening on page 3. It'll be months before I'm back. I take full credit for this one, anon, but I can't help you with your other fag.

>>77698811
I haven't been here for like 2 years, and I just wanted to make my toby joke again before I spend all day taking care of my 4month old baby girl.
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epic bait enjoy the free (you)s from 14 year olds who cant ressit.
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>>77698927
b8
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>>77698927
we can have female space marines but they explicitly get their tits surgically removed during the implanting process
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>>77698943
actually replying?
newfag, just R
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>>77698939
>Anything I don’t agree with is bait
Post modles
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Reminder that Plague Marine upgrades should be free and they should get back their 5+++.
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>>77698957
Like her?
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>>77698974
This, at only 85ppm too
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>>77698974
reminder that modern plague marines look like shit and dont have anything over the old FW or GW ones.
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>>77698927
Mysogyny is integral in a state of total war
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>>77698927
baiter is still here huh?
Here's your (You) l'il guy, maybe it'll help keep you warm in your basement.
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>>77698978
moar femmarines to trigger the reactionaries
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>>77698675
because elves are gay
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>>77698927
Is it really still "crucial," lore?
When was the last time the men-only girls don't work bit was actually published? I get that it hasn't been retconned yet, but like, when was the last time it was re-affirmed?
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>>77698974
>and they should get back their 5+++.
Lmao no, what's next? 2ppm for guardsmen/gants/boyz?
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>>77699011
another patrician I see, got the image?
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>>77699039
When they gave Parrott the boot
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>>77698952
>>77699029
>>77699039
samefag or disabled
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>>77699041
he's baiting, anon
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>>77699038
they are in suits of armour and use big spears and swords, they appeal similar to space marines honestly, dire avengers atleast.
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>>77698974
Reminder that DG is completelly burn out by their new form right now and they are almost as boring as primaris.
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>>77699011
They look fine
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>>77699039
>men-only girls don't work
It's more that they're heavily fraternal, and it's baked into the language
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>>77699064
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>>77699072
How are the Contagion mechanics or stratagems boring?
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>>77699082
You see? You see?
It used to have something to do with Emp's geneseed not being female compatible, or some shit.
Now everyone's like, "it's just a weird choice the galaxy agreed to."
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>>77699090
How are primaris and deathwing and stuff boring?
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>>77699114
Pretty sure it comes up un the horus heresy series and that's like the only fluff that GW tries to maintain the continuity of these days
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>>77699114
>"it's just a weird choice the galaxy agreed to."
Ye. That's pretty much how the Imperial Cult works.
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>>77699039
Why fix what isn't broken
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>>77699039
Didn't we get "Malcador wanted female marines but Emps said no" pretty recently?
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>>77699140
>>77699090
>HOW ARE OVERDONE AD NAUSEAM SPACE MARINES AND THEIR FLAVORS BORING!
Just from their own existance.
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>>77699070
space marines are also gay. I play this game to make timmy cry after I kill his faggoty space marines
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>>77699140
I'll give you a real answer.

Deathwing / Dark Angels' issue lies with their unique secondary points that encourage you to park a ten man Deathwing termie squad at your home objective and max out on secondary points. You're amazing to tie on primary until late in the game where you slightly flip one objective because your units are far more durable and would have lost less than your opponent. If your opponent doesn't fight you, then you win because your secondaries are better. It goes against the design of 9th edition where people want to contest the mid-board. Unless you're a tryhard waac tournament player, then you should never play them like this.
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>>77698978
That shit job of applying that transfer is literally hurting my eyes.
Jesus why
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>>77699149
But like everyone's getting mad about TRADITION, and nobody knows why.

I don't care if we ever get female Space Marines. I'd just shrug, sqwinch my face a bit, and move on with life.

But watching everyone get worked up is like being Jay in MIB. "Yeah, he's just really excited and he has no clue why we're here."
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>play necrons
>win
its a good feeling, bros
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>>77699140
Honestly, 40k rules are boring as fuck.
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>>77699199
>Parks 330pts (before any weapons) of Terminators in his deployment
>Thinks you'll win this way
heh
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>>77699199
>Getting the DA secondary and WWSWF completely free for existing

Dangles make me super mad playing against them and it's this shit that's why
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>>77699140
Primaris are immune to corruption. They're just perfect anti-chaos automatons, you could never have a Primaris Badab War. Also all their wargear seems to just appear off a Cawl-approved assembly line.
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>>77699175
>From "Scars" page 86:
>Malcador smiled. 'You brothers - such a nest of rivalries. I warned him to make you sisters, that it would make things more civilised. He thought I was joking. I wasn't.'
As all humans know, women get along famously with no rivalries or complications or infighting :) Malcador had a big brain
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>space wolves recruit by watching tribal wars and picking the best tribal warriors
>Dark angels whole schtick is that there are some who believe them to be heretics, they have been around since the fall of the emperor and have many secrets

PRIMARIS ARE BRAND SPANKING NEW AND REINFORCE CHAPTERS.
Can someone explain why GW just shat on their on lore and lessened the gimmicks and identity of chapters?
Could they not have made primaris a new procedure EVERY old marine got, making them stronger and bigger? This would become the default procedure, rather than the old space marine transformation.

They even did this by making some named characters become primaris, that should have been the whole idea from the start
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>>77699263
Yeah Malcador was a brainlet but that's what I'm referring to, its recently mentioned fluff that Emperor designed his shit to only work with men
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>>77698978
you've done a fantastic job for painting despite parkinsons
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>>77699140
Primaris are just Marines but strictly better in every way, from their physical abilities to their equipment. How is that not boring?
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>>77699265
They found out that they could squat entire game systerms and sell people the same army twice and no one would care
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>>77699254
>Cawl
when will they just fucking KILL him in lore, put his miniature into legends and replace him in admech armies with a new hq?
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>>77699265
They made the process of conversion dangerous to justify people still having manlet units as they finish the line. Once there's a primaris everything they'll probably just say that all the old guard is out
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>>77699240
I mean, that's a guaranteed 20-30 VP? More than worth a sixth of an army.

>>77699234
Based, what are you running?
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>>77699228
with the current social climate of brute forcing representation where it doesnt need to be reaching its boiling point, it doesnt matter how well they are added in, it will come off as needless pandering regardless
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>>77699263
going on the blob every 30 days in a primarch body sounds fucking awful
imagine the amount of ice cream it would need
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>>77699245
Thankfully, our Space Marine players stopped running this. They'll only do this shit when tournaments show up again next year.
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>>77699290
but they could have done this exact same thing by having the lore be that an old better procedure was discovered, and old marines and the new recruites were going to use that procedure from now on.
That way you still get the new minis and new units, but dont upset fans
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>>77699240
>330 point unit sitting back guarantees 30vp
yeah, you do win that way
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>>77699234
I'm happy for you Cronbros. 8th was rough as fuck for you. I'm just hoping my CSM will get similar treatment. Signs are pointing to yes so far though.
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Wanna slowly build up Krieg through totally legal means, but first I'm gonna try running them on tabletop sim.. how's this list look?

HQ
>marshall w/deathmask of ollanius
>death rider commander, blade of conquest
>tank commander, weapon expert, heavy bolters a stubber and battle cannon

Troops
>50 guardsmen, each squad has a vox caster, 4 squads have a plasma gun

Elites
>1x10 engineers
>command squad w/med pack, standard, plasma gun, and vox
>master of ordnance

Fast attack
>1x5 death rider command squad
1x10 death rider squadron

Heavy support
>3 basilisks
>heavy weapons squad w/mortars
>2 leman russes with battle cannons and one heavy bolter each

Transport
>2 chimeras, one w/2 heavy flamers and the other w/2 heavy bolters
>1 hades breaching drill

Thinking I could remove the drill and engineers, stuff some bullgryn in a chimera instead
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New Drazhar statline, still sans alternate weapon modes or abilities as per standard. If his other rules stayed the same, this is pretty damn spicy.
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Finished the Damnation Crusade comics. Overall I liked it. Surprisingly the BT come off a reasonable, to each other at least. I see why people like the Black Templars.

Being a Dreadnought is a horrible experience. Holy hell.
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>>77699240
Spotted the secondary / doesn't actually play the game.
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>>77699301
ive been running a lot of different lists to get a feel for every unit in the faction
my most consistently good one is the standard warrior/scarab carpet with double obsec and the 6" pregame move
my favorite one is a destroyer cohort with no troops
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>>77699265
it could have literally been "here's nuscale" space marines and they'll have sold
i mean, not the retard shit like the baby carrier
or the stormtalons, stormravens, centurions that are even now forgotten
but imagine the scalping they could have done if they made nuscale space marines with 4 different armour marks in the same kit
instead they went with tonka toy new=better
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>>77699301
>I mean, that's a guaranteed 20-30 VP?
I deepstrike 11 models of chaff onto that point and you're fucked, because its consecutive turns. You're significantly weakening the rest of your board presence
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>>77699043
>>77699011
The new plague marines are good grogs just leave already
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>>77699381
11 models of chaff ain't gonna touch 10 Deathwing termies, you retard. And they have obsec.
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>>77699381
unless your deepstriking other termies you lose, what you gonna do? charge with 10 striking scorpions and kill on average 0.1 terminators a turn?
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>>77699381
Those terminators are ObSec, and they'll annihilate almost anything you throw at them that can both deep strike and get ObSec before the next command phase comes around.
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>>77699401
>>77699406
Never said a single thing about killing them, brainlets
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>>77699305
But that's the thing.

Aside from TRADITION, there's no legitimate reason not to. It would barely even be "brute forcing representation," more like, "yeah, that's always been an option, I guess, our fanbase is just afraid of new things."
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Primaris destroying space wolf ‘culture’ is unironically amazing
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>>77699381
>deepstriking on to an objective with 10 models already on it
>Buh i charge!!!!
>relying on a 9" charge
>chaff not getting absolutely crunched by 10 fucking terminators
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>>77699381
Only army of mine I can think of this working is Blood Angels. Warlord with Visage of Death + Rites of War + death company or sanguinary guard. Turning off ObSec, giving ObSec, and now you have 6-11 men on your obj with power weapons
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My long-term 40k project for the past few months has been converting a series of 95 loyalist marines I got for $100 and turning them to Chaos.

Was working on some vets I'm converting to Chosen and found something interesting; one of them had a Red Scorpions honor guard helmet.

Anyway, I popped it off and I'm gonna stick it on some Chaos marine's trophy rack, which begs the question:


How did a member of the Emperor's Children end up squaring up with a Red Scorpions honor guard?

Any ideas for lore behind it?
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>>77699341
Come on dude should be AP4.
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>>77699443
>has the wealth, science and military of the empire at his disposal
>goes to battle with a fucking knife
>chad fire warrior gifts his pulse rifle to the poor marinoos
love it
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>11 terminators with obsec

Vs.

One little zoomer skull boi with a 2 CP strat
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>>77699438
your dumb man, they are so over blownly broken that you could send 10 scorpions and die on the hit back and waste the points
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Do we know what the price of the SoB vs DE box will be?
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>>77699458
I didn't say it was impossible to beat, just difficult and it encourages bad gameplay. The Dark Angels player is gonna sit on his side of the board and let the opponent come to him where he'll have more assets than you to win any big engagements. I just don't know what they were thinking when they allowed Dark Angels to stack 2 secondaries that encourages defensive stalemate play.
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>>77699489
£45.00.
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>>77699443
this is such a shit image, the dude can draw but it feels so static. The marines just strolling up and grabbing a fire warrors rifle.
Like bub, I know tau are shit in melee, but fire warriors are mentally ill tribesman, they would be flailing like crazy in this situation.
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>>77699489
Easy 180.
Might be a Blood of the Phoenix bullshit level of 210
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>>77699440
>, there's no legitimate reason not to.
yeah there is, they're the emperor's SONS not daughters. now fuck off or start argueing that that space marines need to include people with down syndrome, spina biffida or marfans syndrome.
next.
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>>77699443
Space wolves need less wolves. Erasing all wolf references would be the best but we know its impossible.
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>>77699510
This is English hours. You will use a civilised currency.
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>>77699533
>civilised
>English
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>terminators get objsec now
so when do spiritseers gain objsec to wraithblades?
when do pheonix lords gain objsec to their aspect warriors?
when will GW stop doing ancient release schedules?
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>>77699438
What unit in the game can deep strike, reliably make the charge, has obsec, and will outnumber Deathwing terminators after a round of combat? Maaaaybe Allarus if you roll well?
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>>77699555
Another Deathwing squad.
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>>77699458
Yeah, remove + add ObSec is the only way I can think of to counter this with just some deep strikers.

>>77699473
If he still has his fight twice and built-in +1 to wound, he'll kill stuff just fine.
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>>77699341
> kills less than 3 primaris or Gravis bois
And in response..
> just the sarge with TH does 3 wounds to him
Ouch. The squad of five kills him first.
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>>77699496
I agree entirely, I brought that up mainly because the only real way I can think of countering them is with more space marines. I also have AdMec, the only thing I can think of with them is maybe mortal wounds from a bomber. Only other option(s) would be trying to fight through the rest of the board to get to them, it's fucking aids and I wonder if they'll try remedying it. Maybe change it so it cannot be an ojb in your deployment or has to be midfield/enemy's deployment
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>>77699440
>Aside from TRADITION
I don't think you understand how the Imperium works
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>>77699263
Shit-tier authors, especially BL, love to simp for women by proxy of their characters.
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>>77699483
Huh. This guy with Rites of War and the Reiver strat can flip any objective on his own, can't he? That's pretty good.

>>77699576
If they interrupt?
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<Political Opinion You Disagree With Tangentially Related To 40k>
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>>77699533
I'm sorry anon, when you go to report a post, WHOSE law does 4channel care about you violating?
...
Oh its AMERICAN law? Not British/Yuro bullshit?!
Bitch all hours are American hours. We just allow you to grovel on here
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>>77698675
Dire Avengers are bloody expensive for the amount of models/their point cost, and they're the only decent conversion base for all the other finecast models. The actual models of dire avengers sre great.
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Is the community at fault for lack of love eldar get too?

When’s the last time you saw a pro eldar meme that wasn’t semi porn about how eldar women are made for human dick.
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>>77699598
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>77699577
It'll probably happen real late or never, but they need to do a re-balancing of secondary objectives. But it's GW, so w/e. They'll just release a supplement for a different Marine chapter that can deal with Deathwing camp gameplay.
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>>77699618
it is shameful that it costs 25 quid for 60 points in game, it is unreasonable lol.
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>>77699610
You're free to play an american tabletop game anon
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>>77699621
Theres been one or 2 eldar bros in this general for weeks now, posting pro eldar shit
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>>77699292
Never, hes the future old man
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>>77699338
Krieg is one of the worst if not THE worst IG regiment right now, their only use is souping their engineers/death riders with other regiments or SM chapters.
To go full Krieg you basically have nothing to take advantage of with your regiment trait; it'd be one thing if it was "4+ to fire at full BS skill" but it's been mathematically shown to be inconsequential. So you have to go full Hellhounds and even then, Hellhounds are meh.
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>>77699621
The community has shat on eldar since 2004. Whenever someone asked about playing them they were always thrown WAACfag or lol gay insults and directed to play a “real” army like marines or IG.

This community is the reason marine spam exists
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>>77699521
I mean, it's in their name so theres going to be at minimum some iconography
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>>77699033
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>>77699655
Would a full Krieg plastic line plus putting them into the 9th edition IG codex be enough to push the popularity of IG?
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>>77699610
This is a Taiwanese vore exchange. Nobody cares about American laws. That's a joke option.
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>>77699621
If you want eldar memes you just need to ask
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>>77699680
>bend over
>ribs break on a big bit of steel on stomach
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>>77699683
If only all those Kriegfags will actually buy it just like how all those sister ‘fans’ did
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>>77698742
>>77698675
Dire Avengers look like utter dogshit doing anything but holding their guns. The models are not sculpted with the retarded "monkey swing the gun one-handed while I scratch my ass with the other" poses you rejects think makes you unique.
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>>77699650
harlequin bro here
does this count?
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>>77699680
Yes, just go full sex pot amazon, no reason to pretend to be practical in a setting where chainswords are seen as a normal weapon
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>>77699666
>This community
>~200 anons direct the whole of 40k's meta / production direction
We're responsible for a lot of the memes, but not the mainstream views of factions. Reddit has incredibly more influence than we do.
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>>77699610
>We just allow you to grovel on here
>We
lol this place is owned by a chinaman
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>>77699684
if you choose american law you get shadowbanned kek newfags dont know this and wonder why they get no yous
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>>77699621
3 years ago Eldar were top tier. It wasn't that long ago that Eldar got all that new Wraith and Jetbike stuff. If GW had done the Aspect Warriors in plastic instead of metal in 2006 then we wouldn't even be talking about how old their shit is.
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>>77699683
It's clear GW wants to distance themselves from the DKOK. Even though imo its theme (ww1 aesthetics & tactics in the far future) is extremely compelling, the quasi-Stahlhelm they wear is literally enough to be unoptical for the normie market.
They're not generic enough to be the poster-boys of IG (that'd be Cadians). The IG 9th edition codex won't even mention them.
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>>77699760
>>77699683
Most Kriegfanboys are lorefags who won’t buy the models
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>>77699621
>>77699650
>>77699737
>>77699693
Eldar gonna have a huge release when they resurrect their death god and finally get free from slaanesh - screencap this
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>>77699760
>It's clear GW wants to distance themselves from the DKOK
Yeah you can't find anything about DKOK on the Forgeworld website and they didn't update their rules a few months ago.
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>>77699760
Its clear you're retarded
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>>77699791
I mean they kinda killed that plot point but sure...
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>>77699791
>they recover souls from Slaanesh and now they can slap all of them into Wraiths.
>Primaris Wraiths line released.
>aspect warriors still don't an overhaul.

This is what's going to happen.
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>>77699791
Buddy they already did that 4 years ago.
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>>77699791
Trash, the only interesting thing about leldar is that they're a dying race. Taking that out they become utterly uninteresting.
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>>77699841
Are the Age of The Emperor bullshitters coming back?
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>>77699793
Based retard, a HTML header and dogshit rules means the faction is alive and well. Read between the lines, autismo.
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>>77699638
> NA has the greatest percent of GW profits
> NA players dictated this new edition of 40k
How British do you think this game is anymore?
If anything, its held BACK by its shit tier British hold overs
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Didn’t the French say IG and eldar are next to get updates?
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>>77699868
You're not reading between the lines, you're making shit up.
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>>77699890
If they are they are getting no new models.
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>>77699708
??
you can do these poses on any avenger btw not just exarchs
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>>77698675
Eldar is the only faction where I fully dislike the entire aesthetic
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>>77699737
are ya meming son? warp spiders, hawks are still 2nd edition 1995 shit
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>>77699894
Based hydrocephalic rape baby telling it how it is :)
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>>77699786
I like Krieg a lot. The only thing stopping me is the insane cost for them
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>>77699927
I dont understand why, you mean you also hate the full armoured look of avengers, hate the cool robotic wraiths AND hate the predator looking scorpions? the only issue with eldars aesthetic is that you have banshees, avengers, guardians and scorpions that look unifrom and then some 2nd edition bullshit that looks out of place.
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>>77699894
>abhorrent rules update
>half the army has been but into Legends
>moulds are never repaired
>availability is going away
I know you're bait-posting (nobody could unironically be that retarded) but people genuinely believe things along the lines of your post
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>>77699955
just buy cheap ww2 minis with gasmasks anon.
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>>77699930
Yeah some of them didn't get updated, but some did. Howling Banshees, Dire Avengers, Striking Scorpions and I think Fire Dragons.
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What animals (if any) do you use for /yourdudes/?

I was thinking of using Boars for mine since they're fucking strong and not that common
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>>77699910
I feel like it's damned if you do damned if you don't.
> they don't
People keep whining online (they don't care) but also people don't want to invest in the faction
> they do
60 bucks for 10 guardsmen. And you need around 6 to 8 boxes. People whine on the internet. The price keeps people from buying in.
They are kinda fucked either way.
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>>77699982
nope, avengers and guardians are 3rd edition 1999, but hold up amazingly.
Scorpions got updated into finecast in 2006, they look fine but its shitcast.
Banshees got an ugly update as well and then a new one in 2019.
The rest are 2nd edition, 30 years old and aesthetically dont match the plated armour look of the rest of the army
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The only reason Dkok is dying is that forgeworld is dying. It has nothing to do with GW trying to "distance themselves" from the army or some other tinfoil hat bullshit.
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>>77699975
That's just normal Forgeworld shit. Nothing to do with hysterical politics.
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>>77699341
>he still won't have an invul save
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>>77700018
I'm worried about an update to the vehicles.
Like... wave serpant sprue is from 1997. I'm looking at one right now.
But... I dont want to have to purchase fucking 6 new vehicles to play, at 70 bucks a pop, for new craftworlds vehicles.
Honestly, I think the vehicle models hold up (maybe not the Vyper tho)
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>>77699979
Just buying from Russians/Chinese and focusing on AdMec
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>>77700059
doesn't he already have a 5++?
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>>77700024
I'll believe it when they get released on plastic.
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>>77699996
> so close
Also I think wrong thread brah
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>>77700034
It obviously doesn't help for marketing purposes that if you were to present a random DKOK infantryman, your average normie would think they're Nazis.
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>>77700076
I thought people talked about /yourdudes/ in these threads. I wanted some ideas on naming/themes for chapters
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>>77700018
>avengers and guardians look fine
How can you actually believe this? They look dated and goofy. This is why SM will keep getting new actually good looking sculpts and nobody else. The vast majority of players (so space marine players) actually demand a certain baseline in quality that xeno players just dont seem to give a shit about. The cognitive dissonance is so real. At the same time bitching about never getting anything new while simultaneously attempting to die on the hill that their 20 year old play-doh faced looking retard-troops are "fine the way they are". Its so annoying. And the only people this punishes are new players to the hobby who will just end up playing space marines because they're one of the only 3 armies that actually has 2021 quality sculpts.
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>>77700018
No they definitely redid Fire Dragons too.
>Scorpions got updated into finecast in 2006
Finecast didn't exist in 2006. They started Finecast in 2011.
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>>77700108
Sorry it wasn't that clear.
Maybe say "for my chapter or craftworlds or whatever the fuck."
Sure boars are cool.
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>>77700089
Funny thing how krieg is the most popular regiment, even surpassing cadians, among the normies and no models. The would sell loads in plastic.
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>>77699338
Vox casters aren't worth it.
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>>77699996
I've been thinking of finding some sabertooth skulls or minis to put as adornments on my CSM.
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>>77700142
fuck you're right I was a bit too vague
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>>77699881
>How British do you think this game is anymore?
100%
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>>77700112
Guardians look absolutely fine. I build like 50 of them a few years ago and they're still great. I don't know what you think is dated or goofy about it. Have you had a concussion recently? Do you have a family history of mental illness?
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>>77700147
Stop making shit up.
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>>77700112
I believe it because they look really close to how an updated version would look anyway
The main issue with them is the GARBAGE paintjob on the box and gw store, makes them look so bad you wouldnt buy them. A lot of eldar needs resculots, guardians and avengers are fine.
>>77700123
okay they did metal in 2006 and then shitcast after. Fire dragons legit look like 1995 sculpts still dont they? the same pose 5 times from a squated side angle
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>>77699881
>NA players dictated this new edition of 40k
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>77700193
their book sold out within 10 min, they're really fucking popular
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>>77700018
Stupid newfag dire avengers were update for the 4th edition codex in 2006
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>>77700147
>Funny thing how krieg is the most popular regiment, even surpassing cadians, among the normies and no models. The would sell loads in plastic.
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>>77700147
internet echo chambers aren't remotely close to a good representation of 'normies'
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>>77700176
>guardians look absolutely fine
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>>77700147
you're 100% right about nogames faggots loving krieg though. Exactly one specific type of them in fact.
One very obnoxious, faggoty type.
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>>77700212
'sold out' how many copies, exactly?
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>DKoK aren't popular guys
>sure their book won the 2021 vote to be brought back for a limited time
>sure it sold out within 10 min before everything else
>BUT IT'S NOT POPULAR
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>GSC Biophagus
>little dude that comes with him has a sprue attachment point right on the top of his bald head
GW

please
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>>77700209
> head in the sand not realizing 9th is just ITC with a few tweaks
Are all Yuros this retarded?
No anon, this isnt some crazy new idea only the GW design studio thought up. And its certainly not the retarded ETC "just mash everything together mate!!!" Approach.
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I genuinely like primaris space marines.
The only thing I dislike is how specialized they are making them. I'm sure they could have combined a few of them into single kits.
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>>77700259
how the fuck should I know.
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>>77700258
> avatarfag
Cringe
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>>77700273
hi, have you heard about deathwatch killteams
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>>77700244
>ignores the part where the other anon said
>"it is mostly a shitty paintjob on the box and the gw store that needs to be updated"
I wouldnt buy that ugly garbage, but they dont look like that when not painted in shitty 1999 techniques
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>>77700206
>Fire dragons legit look like 1995 sculpts still dont they
They aren't from 1995 though. They're from 2006.
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>>77700286
I chose the image just for you, assmadlad
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>>77700273
Yeah it sucks that primaris are just space marine aspect warriors, doesn't feel very "space marine-y". Also the loss of armor marks is a bit sad but can be mostly remedied with simple head swaps.
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GW loses either way since the xeno grogs will complain about the updates being nu or losing soul.

Happened to death guard and necrons
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>>77700285
Exactly
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>>77700323
The people who complain about the new death guard or necron sculpts unironically need to leave this hobby
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>>77700303
No matter how hard you try to polish those turds they are still turds anon. Yes, those look better than the GW box art models. But they still look like dated garbage.
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This is how female space marines will be when they are made canon again.
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Why is this thread more retarded than usual? Weirdos getting argumentative about things they've just made up.
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>>77700337
So you're going to ignore it getting voted in by the community? You're completely disingenuous bro
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>>77700206
They need their models to be longer and taller, they're the same size as IG infantry and they're supposed to be bigger
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>>77700323
They are an extremely small vocal minority. The success of the ranges and the sales figures for the models speak much louder and more clearly than some whiney contrarians on the internet.
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>>77700303
The only big improvement in that is they're further away
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>>77700315
but they look like this, and are all posed looking 90% to the side like retards
>>77700206
someone disprove this shit then, if guardians look bad, why do they look identical to the artwork, how do you improve what already matches the art?

Guadians and avengers are not the issue, warp spiders, rangers, all the pheonix lords are stop gaslighting
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>>77699465
Red Scorp Geneseed Tithe Ship ambushed by EC, either for their own purpose, or for sale to Fabius Bile
Honour Guard was a token detachment
Alternatively, they were Red Scorps hunting down Astral Claws and other various Renegades after Badab, and one such renegade squad fled blindly into the hands of an EC Warlord - they pledged to serve him, and the EC Party Leader took on the detachment of Red Scorps chasing them?
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>>77700368
IG infantry should be smaller.
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>>77700323
What the 2 grogs who keep saying nu death guard and posting the bad old models?
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>>77700368
thats a problem because the SHIT artist who sculpted cadians made them thick as fuck and too tall, guardians are scaled perfectly with old tactical marines, they are MUCH thinner and almost as tall, but gw couldnt keep a standard
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>>77700361
it's only slightly worse than usual
baiters are just kind of bored with other pursuits at the moment.
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>>77700206
>>77700384
The artwork has a much better scale, much finer detail, and much better posing. The models look retro and dated.
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>>77699621
When's the last time Eldar weren't the butt of the joke in GW's own material?
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eldar that are fine
>farseer
>avengers
>guardians
>wraithlord
>wraithguard/blade
minis that need to come to plastic
>striking scorpions
minis that need resculpts
>warp spiders
>fire dragons
>rangers
>dark reapers
>all the pheonix lords
>asurman

anything wrong with this list?
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>>77700323
you really need to ignore /tg/'s opinion on fucking anything if you want to have an idea of what the community at large thinks.
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>>77700352
kill yourself /pol/trannie
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>>77700471
I am guessing you are just a serotonin ruined consoomer pay pig honestly
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>>77698978
>helmet just glued to the kneecap
>that glop paint job

I don't even care its a lazy conversion thats hideous
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>>77700384
>but they look like this, and are all posed looking 90% to the side like retards
What they look like does not change the fact that they came out in 2006.
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>>77700504
Yes. Only the wraiths should be in the "models that are fine" category. There also should be no "minis that need to come to plastic" category.
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>>77700504
oh add
>banshees
to fine
and
>warlocks
to sculpt

>>77700532
what the fuck, these old ones are unironically way better looking lmao
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>>77698927
Pretty easy to make someone look dumb when you fabricate their argument entirely.
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>>77700504
>minis that need to come to plastic
>minis that need resculpts
What did he mean by this?
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>>77700521
Ok boomer
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>>77699114
That's 40k in a nutshell baby.
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>>77700547
Yeah. Eldar got massively fucked over by the 2006 update. Everyone else was getting full or nearly full plastic updates, then Eldar got inferior metal shit.
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>>77700323
Necrons are absolutely top tier.
Cyclopcrons and crypteks break out the humanoid monotony making them look actually xeno and distinct.
New destroyers are better. Yeah fuck you, dumb tank centaurs are for admech, new shorter platforms make them look like a Serious Sam boss.
Also people laugh at the new ball monolith but it is still vastly superior to old sour apple candy one.
Also only nostalgia fags like plastic rods, they uggo as fuck.
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how can you mess it up this bad lol.
>>77700566
minis that are in finecast, and should be done in plastic.
minis that need to be redesigned and resculpted
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>>77700566
He thinks finecast scorpions look good but fuck finecast
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>>77699263
Women are perfect angels who do no wrong except for when it's internalised oppression.
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How much more do we need before we accept that GW wants to push AoS as their main thing?
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>>77700538
The Guardians, the Jetbikes, Farseer and Spiritseer models are fine.
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>>77700323
everyone loves the new necrons. dg just suffer from looking dumb next to superior AoS chaos armies
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>>77699338
Work the death riders and their HQ into a patrol or outrider detachment, and give the rest of your army a doctrine that might actually work.
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>>77700646
>a post about how to start the game
schizo
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>>77700646
>Whats this? Talking about a game you produce? clear favouritism
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>>77699610
Can we all just nuke America already. I'm sick the bullshit and their country is dying anyway. Just put them out of their misery.
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>>77700664
Necrons have one single problem, and that's sculpted damage/weathering. Aside from that I'd agree they're pretty much perfect
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>>77700646
No.... how dare they try and introduce people into one of their games????
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>>77699927
Eldar is the only faction where I fully adore the entire aesthetic I'd rather see them without finecast bubbles
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When will we accept 40k is dead and GW wants to push Kill Team as their main thing?
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>>77699890
Sauce??
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>>77700618
>>77700624
You can't just take a metal model and make it plastic though. You have to make the model work on a sprue, which almost always means reposing and redesigning.
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>>77700726
my thought are you should stop spamming
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>>77700724
>Finecast
>Metal

What did he mean by this
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>>77700646
Seek help.
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>>77700013
I feel like it depends on what they put in the box honestly. If they I actually gave you special weapons in the box besides a flamethrower and a gray lighter it would be worth it not to mention if they did a more compartmentalized infantry for IG. Where are you can have options for multiple regiments and the box
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>>77699263
It's like they have never been around women, or they are actively working on pushing cognitive dissonance.
Even in their own stories, we have tons of instances of space marines hating each other, rivalries, and such within chapters. And through work, and combat they become friends, brothers.
The Women? That can't because they just always get along, just like the real world. I am always reminded of that all women company that went belly up because the women couldn't get along from the start.
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>>77700018
>and aesthetically dont match the plated armour look of the rest of the army
Warp spiders look amazing for how old they are
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>>77700726
I think the far left and the far right ought to either come join reality again in the center or just kill eachother entirely so the rest of society, the part of society that actually functions for more than 50 years without imploding, can get on with its business.
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>>77700745
Most Finecast models were originally metal models that got converted when Finecast launched in 2011.
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>>77700710
Jokes aside I like kill team. It's easier and cheaper for me to assemble a kill team for a faction I like than to build up an entire army
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>>77700726
Their faction =/= political beliefs, it's a historical game
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I hope we get full exarch squads in the new codex.
LIKE veteren squads, one exarch is SO much more effecient than normal avengers, so I would pay 15 points to make it an exarch team, all with different exarch upgrades!

>>77700775
I agree, but they are really chunky and I think could fit in with the other aspects more, I think lack of cohesion puts people off eldar, but really many of the units do look similar, some are just out there outliers
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>>77700828
They're British so they can buy alcohol.
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>>77699996
Yet undecided whats indigenous on my planet.
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>>77700800
>it's easier to assemble 5 minis then 30
astounding
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>>77699285
Custodes are just space marines but better in everyway. How is that not boring?
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>>77700828
why are they so THICKKKK
>>77700840
forgot pic
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>>77700828
Lol Americans and their 21 to drink are hilarious. What a gay and shit cuntry.
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>>77700800
It's a shame they don't see it that way.
Kill Team is the perfect tool to push new people in. You have a game where it's a little more fluid than 40k, and you can build a working team for most factions using only one box of models?
Instead they are using it to push models behind a timegate.
Fucking warcry is better skirmish game, hell Underworlds is a better skirmish game.
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my only complaint with avengers and guardians is that their guns are way to thick and long, not elegant enough
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>>77700316
> avatarfag
Cringe
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>>77700910
I won't be surprised if AoS continues to grow steadily thanks to Warband. They need to re-do Kill Team.
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>>77700828
I really, really like these sculpts not gonna lie.
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Why do people hate on biovore?
The detail and proportion are good and still hold up to the rest of the range. The head can be swapped if you don't like it, although IMO it looks cute and helps to establish that it's processed ork turned into cock and balls cannon platform.
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>>77700872
Its more like, they play how space marines SHOULD play.
There shouldn't be fucking 40 marines in a 2k game.
But GW MUST sell more Space Marine kits... so here we are.
At least Custodes have a fucking weakness: low numbers in a game about holding objectives. You dont have to kill them. Just swamp them and control the board.
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>im in the thread posting
>400 posts in 2 hours
>I just check on a thread occasionally
>400 posts in 6 hours
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>>77700975
Price mostly.
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What would you put in a barebones 1000pt Sisters list? I'm still familiarizing myself with all their units and could use a starting base
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>>77700987
100 % agree
the fact you can take 60 marines and have around 1k left for hq and heavy support is insane to me, I hate being horded by seemingly fucking immortal dudes man.
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>>77701013
>2 main troop
>transport
>hq
thats the go to basics mayne
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>>77701047
gee whiz, you dont say. I was meaning more specifics, theyve got tons of troop and HQ choices
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>>77701047
sisters can bring A LOT of shit with 1000 points. They are severely undercosted
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>>77700966
I like that they are modular and good at being converted. Otherwise they are a solid meh.

> Also, paying the same price for half the product. Better to buy the Brood Brothers box instead.
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>>77699621
>>77699666
>get called a weeb/commie for liking Tau
>get called gay for liking Eldar
>get called an edgelord for liking Dark Eldar

This community really is the reason for mahreen spam, then they complain about it whilst still buying them to feed their custom chapter army.
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>everybody talking about which aspects need to be plastic and forgetting about Shining Spears
Bros....


Also the one thing I'd like to see in a new plastic release is a second look at the exarch loadouts. The fact that the swooping hawk exarch has an option for a powersword is ridiculous.
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>>77698687
Yea. Sisters come with so many spare parts in every box that it's super easy to do some simple kitbashing to get different poses and the death korps of krieg already dont fit together super well so you might as well bust out some green stuff and get to cutting.
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>>77699916
>gee Bill, how come your mom lets you have TWO shuriken catapults?
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>>77701126
>get called a weeb/commie for liking Tau
>get called gay for liking Eldar
>get called an edgelord for liking Dark Eldar
Noone does that unironically.
People talk shit about tau fags because of entirety of 8th.
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>>77701126
2 of those 3 claims are true though.
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>>77701127
don't bully the swooping hawk exarch, he's trying to be like Baharroth. but yeah a lot of aspects have melee weapons but not the stats to back it up.
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>>77701126
have you seen what this community calls spess marine players? you gay edgelord weeb
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>>77700226
Is the cancerous shit twitter is, an echo chamber? Maybe, but I got that conclusion from there.
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>>77700950
If only.
They do need to completely redo the game from the ground up but they won't they likely don't see it as cost effective.
And it sucks it's just a way for them to wave new models in front of the 40k players. Pariah Nexus is going to sell, but not because of the game itself. You're going to see a ton of scraps on the secondary market once it drops. The books, board and terrain will be cheap as fuck, followed by the necrons.
It upsets me because it's the perfect foundation to get new players in. It's like a sample board, you can try a little bit of every army. Try your hand at their models, paint schemes, tactics and such. It's also a good way to bring in the younger generation as well "here's a box timmy, paint it and we can play".
They can squeeze the paypigs, but eventually they get old. You can make new piglets through a better vehicle to get them into the games.
They have those watered down version of boardgames coming out, but it's set factions. Marines v necrons, marines v cultists. Kill Team would allow for all of them.
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>>77701180
Also the mirrorswords on the banshee and whatever the fuck the scorpion exarch has that's not the claw. And the sword in the shining spears.
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>>77701157
People shit on Taufags because of 6th/7th newfriend.
Riptide wing and before that Tauldar were much much worse than 8th NOOOOO DRONES NOOOO years of tears
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>>77699683
No
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>>77701127
I think Shining Spears are implied. It's demeaning to even have to ask because the Shining Spears kit is so bad. They combine old shitty 90s plastic with Finecast. It's actually pretty funny that the lance bits on them are Finecast, so you get the shitty ragged surfaces of old plastic with the mangled bent weapons of Finecast.
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>>77701013
something I made without giving it much thought at all in 2 minutes. Pretty sure you can steamroll pretty much everyone
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>>77701192

>Marines vs Necrons, marines vs cultists

I mean, do you want them to include every faction in the box? Or do you mean you don't want them to constantly add marines? There were plenty of Kill Team kits that didn't include marines.
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>>77701127
Shining spears are bad, but its an easy fix.
Dire avengers torsos on modern jet bikes. Attach a HE flag to each bike. Use speat or bright Lance bits for spears.
Done.
Is it kit bashing/bit intensive?
Yes.
Is it more doable than re sculpting 20 year old warp spiders, swooping hawks?
Yes
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>>77701157
Assigning armies to identity traits is a secondary thing. Except women playing Tyranids. There was something to that but the secondaries have run that into the ground.
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is mars the best way to run admech or ryza since im wanting to meme hard with plasma
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>>77701298
It's so fucking expensive considering that those are the main bits of all those kits, it's not like you have leftovers from your normal building.
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>>77701192
I love the necron board and the necron half of the kill team. I might buy it because I have AdMec as my main army and kill team, plus I've been playing Mechanicus. It'd be a cool way to get people into it with my own minis
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>>77701316
Secondaries don't realize that most people collect more than a single faction.
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>>77701352
pretty sure it varies. I've met people who prefer having 6000 points of the same army
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>>77701329
Mars is easily the best, but Ryza is viable too
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>>77701286
They should add monopose minis for all factions, like those AoS games with gay names
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>>77699234
Same here my man
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>>77701316

> women playing tyranids

I know only two tyranid players and they are both men
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>>77701371
I mean people typically have a main army, but they'll still collect other stuff.
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>>77701387
It's not about who play the nids, but what army the women play
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Updated the cards page with space wolves cards. Will try to updated when Wahapedia updates the Blood Angels & Dark Angels.
https://mega.nz/folder/BB9WgJLZ#1pPulKJSR9AN9rZ87oz_qA
https://mega.nz/folder/5V9HkC5D#mAP-TZPDSQPWO2UO5IyW_Q

Those files are created using the Card Editor:
https://github.com/DeveloperGuilliman/CardEditor/releases/tag/0.2.7
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>>77701342
I mean, it like a box of DA, then left over bright lances from your vehicles (most vehicles BEFORE the new change to lances didn't want to use them. They were shitier lascannons).
Any guardian squad has one on the weapon platform sprue, all the extras from war walkers, wave serpants, etc
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>>77701371
as a fag who has over 7k points of custodes and nothing else i can attest
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>>77699234
Same here. it feels good to be able to run phalanxes of warriors marching down the board instead of spamming vehicles [of the edition] for once.
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Say something good about the future of 40k/ you think will be good about the future of 40k

Given that we have gotten three separate plastic catachan plastic models, and a tyranid rumour engine exists, the next guard release (if we get one) is most likely going to be a brand new Catacan VS Tyranids boxset, with the tyranids getting a new character or something.

Most likely, this boxset will come with Jungle trees.
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>>77701227
>chainsabres are in legend
>eldar chainswords didnt get buffed with the space marine ones
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>77701387
That's how they ruined it. The observation was that women quite often play Tyranids. It wasn't that all Tyranid players are women or that you have to be a woman to play them etc.
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Do you guys think Black Templars would recruit a blank? I can't tell if they would love to have one for their anti-warp ability or hate them for being different.
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so im trying to shoot for a alt history meme custodes scheme. basically shit lore for them is that during ulanor emps get fucked by Urrlak Urruk and horus became new emps and custards are now his honor guard. but should i try and make the white pop a bit more and be brighter or there anything that should change about the scheme.
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>>77701431
I think 9th and 8th editions have both been huge improvements on the downhill slide that was 5th, 6th and 7th editions. 9th editions main problem has been slow releases which is primarily caused by the lockdown affecting their factory output. I'm pretty hopeful for the game overall.
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bt vs gk
whats the difference?
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>>77701431
You're pure, unstained like a child, still able to hope and dream.
No box without Primaris will ever happen again.
But not all is lost, I'm sure we will get nice single models between Space Marine releases.
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>>77701279
thanks, anon. As I understand it, multi-melta is anti-infantry and heavy bolters are the anti-tank? and only one immolator? I thought sisters are fairly squishy
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>>77701503
That idea is as badly thought out and executed as the dry brushing on your model.
IE its all shit.
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>77701457
Fuck off.
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>>77701503
>alternate history custodes
>they're still just normal looking custodes
I don't understand
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>>77701227
the biting chainsword is s5 ap1 2D and 5 points. so it'll kill a marine each time it hits compared to the fists 1d3 that will always roll 1s

>>77701483
blanks are hated, super rare but the they would love him
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>>77701483
Blanks are supposed to make others feel very uncomfortable in their presence. I'm sure they would find him weird.
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>>77701457
This doesn't make any sense
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>>77700872
It is, I don't know why you thought that was a dunk.
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>>77701383
>>77699234
necronbros really are the best posters.
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>>77701431
Oh my dear god, I wish. I can only hope we'll get anything like this.

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
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>>77701367
kek
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>>77701528
one theres no dry brushing, second yeah its a shite lore idea but its meant to be a nightmare senario for the custodes. the noctis somnium shield host for horus.
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>>77701507
b is a circle with a line going up on it's left side while g is a circle with a crook shape going down it's right side. T has two lines, while K has 3, and they're at very different angles to each other. They all make different sounds. I hope that's cleared things up for you.
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>>77701507
One is a chapter of Mary Sues that are better than all other space marines (this was before primaris), the other is a bunch of fanatical screaming retards.
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>>77701540
neither do i, im still fleshing it out and trying a scheme.
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>>77701505

Maybe BJ won't fuck up and lockdown will end in June
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>>77701595
If you didn't dry brush the gloves and the coat i am literally at a loss as to how they look so god damn horrible.
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>>77701603
Grey Knights don't scream much more than other Space Marine chapters.
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>>77701528
>drybrushing literally living rent free
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>>77701625
he thinks boris is in charge
muahahah
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>>77701625
>Maybe BJ won't fuck up
That's an enormous maybe. I'm just hoping they get as much done as they can between the next easement and the inevitable return to lockdown.
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>>77701286
Not the marines part, go look at the other entry boxes they have planned. The ones we saw in the January preview. It's more marines, but instead of fixing KT they pump out more intro games. When they could fix KT which would work better at getting new players hooked.
Like warcry is growing, KT just can't find it's footing because it's too forced into being a mini40k.
>>77701343
That's the only benefit of this. If you want the books, and terrain? You can and likely will get it cheap on eBay in a month or so once it's out.
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>>77701631
Oil paint wash. and its by no means done. i still think it looks like shite too, im just blocking shit in to begin with and giving myself some shadows to follow on the cape and gloves.
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>>77701646
Nothing wrong with drybrushing.
When its poorly executed, then, just like any other poorly executed technique, its shit
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>>77701603
the anon asked for a difference
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>>77701679
>get into KT
>buy a new mini box every 6 months
>get into 500 points 40k
>expand collection
>buy lots of minis
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>>77701507
If you're not interested enough to read up about them, or even just look at the models, then what are you doing here?
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>>77701702
Drybrushing is the chad of painting techniques.
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>>77701431
I think we're at the end of the Marine releases for the next few years and we can look forward to releases for armies that actually need them.
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>>77701503
I'm with >>77701540

Why didn't you get some black in there, make them more like Sons of Horus? Some kitbashing would help too, at the moment they just look like really grubbily painted but otherwise normal Custodes.
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>>77701747
busy doing my dudes, and sucking an alpha dick,
just wondered the difference they both seem the same
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I've notice that some people instead of gluing a model to the base use some sort of tiny metal spikes/nails.
Why? what's the benefit?
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>>77701802
There will always be Marine releases but I think we might now have a stretch where there is just a few character models here and there instead of a full wave.
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>>77701825
Thats pinning, its useful when you think a model will fly off since superglue might fail or the base is too irregular, or the model is too big.
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>>77701503
I like the look. I wonder if one can replicate the mother of pearl aesthetic on the models?
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>>77700352
why would one bother make female space marines when sisters of battle exist (outside of triggering autists)
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guys I can only come to abs and dick, who claims me; slannesh or eldar or tau?
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>>77701833
Oh, for sure. One-off stuff like Uriel Ventris will still keep on coming out, but I don't think we'll get a huge glut of stuff like Indomitus or the Phobos wave for at least a few years.
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>>77701802
>I think we're at the end of the Marine releases for the next few years

AHAHAHAHA
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>>77701809
Mainly wanting to try and match them as close in custodes terms to the Luna Wolves scheme. Horus taking over the title of emps before they became the sons of horus. Im also in the process of painting up horus in his white and gold plate. I want the white on Horus to be the trim and cape colour for the custodes. im thinking i need to make the white pop more but still tryint to keep the identity of the custodian guard as the honor guard of the imperial household.
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>>77701825
See the best way to mount a model is pinning + drop of superglue.
Basically ensures your models will never go off.

>why not just superglue
If you painted/prepared the base separately from the model and then place the model on top, you're basically gluing it to that layer of paint/tuft, which can more easily come off.
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are old barely fit 2 man speeders even legal? new ones are much bigger
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>>77701802
>look forward to releases for armies that actually need them.
No army needs new releases. You'll only get bland monopose and tacticool rock shit.
Can you zoomer tier consoomers fuck off just convert what you dont like instead of crying like a helpless baby.
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>>77701902
primaris marines
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>>77701951
At GW events, any model they put out can be used straight-from-box assembled, using supplied bases.
With ITC, it depends on the TOs.
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>flamer
>grenade launcher
>hot-shot volley gun
>melta gun
is there a point to taking any of these over based plasma?
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>>77701503
>he didn't convert chaos custodes
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>>77701979
Meltas are pretty alright sometimes, especially if you expect to fight stinkies
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>>77701985
man i just wanted good guy nonchaos horus, i know im being a whiney bitch about it but reading the books i really liked horus's character and wanted to do an homage to what could have been kinda shite.
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>>77701965
>You'll only get bland monopose and tacticool rock shit.
This is objectively false. The new Necron releases were great, and the standalone boxes for new Marine units (bladeguard, eradicators) come with a lot of extra bit options.
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>>77701510
>No box without Primaris
Like the DE vs Sisters box?
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why is it forgotten
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>>77701979
Melta and Plasma is all you need.
That said, flamer-weapons are extremely efficient for IG due to the autohitting, even moreso on vehicles like Hellhounds or Sentinels.
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>>77701965
Post models.
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>>77701546
>ap1 against space marines
Lmao
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>>77702053
UHH
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>>77701965
Easy on the LARP there, wannabe grog.
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>>77702055
Honestly no idea.
Looks more retarded than the shoulder carried so you like it would appeal to GW designers
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>>77701979
Hs volley are cheap, gives a backfield scion unit on an objective a bit more reach.
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>>77702034
t.ignores the monopose tacticool rock models
>>77702076
>>77702101
whats the cut off point for being a grog. ill post models if you answer and I fall in it.
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>>77700070
He does, anon is just a whining bitch
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>>77702181
Secondary confirmed. Fuck off and die.
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post your favorite model that you own
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If I win the cart contest Cadia comes back.
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>>77702295
got one of these boys on the way. My favourite dread by far
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>>77702055
randomized damage is rough, you are often better off with multiple consistent damage weapons to more reliably take down a bigger model.
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>>77702083
can't pass every save, but yeah it's a crapshoot. scorpions and banshees just aren't cut out for melee combat against marines
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>>77702305
let's be real here, you will never paint all that
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>>77702295
best boy that still needs to be painted.
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Post decent theoretical boxsets that James Workshop will never do

----- Catachan side -----

>HQ's:
The black guy
The ripper woman

>Troops:
x10 Catachan Jungle Fighters (New)
x10 Catachan Jungle Fighters (New)


>Elites:
Catachan Command Squad (New)
Bullgryns

>Fast attack:
Two hellhounds

----- Tyranid side -----

>HQ:
Mawloc
Red Terror (New)

Troops:
x 20 Hormagaunts

>Fast attack:
x 3 Ravenor Brood

>Heavy support:
x2 Carnifexes
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>>77702305
Why 2x cdf? You dont really run your command squads with anything but special weapons, do you anon...?
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This year, the bulk of my miniatures became old enough to legally purchase alcohol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkB1uWVHnHQ
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>>77702181
Grog is a state of mind, not a demographic.
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>>77702384
Because the CDF comes with more models than just the command squad
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>>77702345
Banshees are a bit better at s4 but god both are so bad
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>>77702416
reminder that it takes 16 scorpions to kile ONE primaris int on average
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>>77702395
how did you paint the plasma glow? I like the red
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>>77702458
Anon please. You have to get a better camera
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>>77702380
>decent
>Mawloc
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>>77702435
Don't remind me, I regularly use 10 man striking scorpion units and all the damage is from the mandiblasters+exarch
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>>77702262
post your own models
>>77702398
i dont use labels yet one of you labelled me as a grog wannabe.
seems it getting a bit too hot for you fellows.
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>>77700323
NU-DG lost their souls tho
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>>77702416
both aspects are s4 from their swords but yeah they're not in a good spot. they can butcher guardsmen and deamon troops but everyone can
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>>77702514
Nah, your opinion's just retarded.
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>>77702516
Based retard coming in to amuse us with his shit takes
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>>77702384
It's a discount even if you ignore the Command Squad, but that aside, the special weapons are on the command Squad sprue.
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Genestealers either need an extra wound or to be half as expensive.
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>>77702380
>catachans
>no lictor/deathleaper
Cmon it's a classic.
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>>77701985
not canon faggot
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>>77702380
Mawloc is not HQ and neither is Red Terror.
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>>77702514
See we knew you were a secondary from what you said. Nobody who actually participates in the hobby thinks metal models are better than modern plastic ones. It's just not a realistic thing to post. I hope you at least get better at this weird lie about collecting Warhammer that you've decided to spend your time on.
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>chainswords get a buff
>they dont buff eldar chainswords
>chainsabre in legends for actually no reason
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so how are primarisbabies dealing with all their intercessors being replace by new aggressor primaris-marined primaris-marines?
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>>77702564
Genestealers need to be Primarisized.
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>>77702519
They're not even great at that because of their mediocre volume of attacks. I regularly run hunters of ancient relics and it helps them out a lot, but that's pretty much the only way to give them that output.
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>>77702613
I'm just pretending it isn't happening.
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>>77702613
Primarischads are the highest form of hobbyist.
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>>77702617
I mean if Tyrant/Hive Guard are processed marines then nu stealers could be processed primarishits, I wouldn't even mind.
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>>77702380
>>HQ:
>Mawloc
>Red Terror (New)
????
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>>77701935
With those colours and base Custodes bitz they're just normal Custodes then.
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>>77702660
>if Tyrant/Hive Guard are processed marines
They aren't.
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>>77702600
The eldar updates were so fucking bad
>banshee power swords are upgraded
>exarch weapons aren't
>fusion not updated
>only the flamers on wraithlord/storm guardians updated
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>>77702660
>go to planet with no marines
>somehow we make primaris marine hive guard
???
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>>77702660
That's not how it works. Hive Guard got designed by taking some cues from devoured Marines, yes, but they're still just 'made' from the same biomass as everything else.
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>>77702613
I'm just waiting until we get primaris bladeguard as troop choices. Hype as fuck. They look so good with their 4W 2+ saves, and 3++
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>>77702687
>Tyrant Guards are scientifically rumoured to contain the DNA of defeated Space Marine chapters as their bodies appear to include a fused ribcage and a Black Carapace, but the Imperium considers this blasphemy and denies its possibility.
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>>77702613
With their wallet
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>>77702722
>4W 2+ saves, and 3++
disgusting.
A captain used to have worse stats when black reach came out
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>>77701979
>Tempestus prime with command rod thing
>command squad with 4 volleys
>DS in next to something meaty and just rip it to shreds
I just love the HSVG, looks too cool.
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>>77702626
there is enhance/drain or jinx/protect and supreme disdain but i wouldn't use it to buff their damage. if i want melee i use axe wraithguard since they can take a hit and have s7

>>77702722
4++ they finally toned down storm shields. still tanky and good
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>>77702709
I'm pretty sure nids assimilate dna, that's how biovores (ork) and zoeys (Eldar) were made, nah?
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>>77702722
They have a 4++. Also never.
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Is it true that tyranids and the Imperium typically don't deploy their titan class units against each other in order to not provoke the other to deploy their own titan class units?
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>iron halos used to be good
>4+ invuln on top of 3+ armour mixed with 4 wounds was insane
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>>77702729
OK I misinterpreted what you meant by "processed". I thought you meant they were Space Marines turned into Tyranids or some shit.
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>>77702458
Why are all your pics so grainy and cursed? Are you taking them with a flip phone?
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I had nothing better to do so I used gimp for a thing. Warmaster Abaddon wants to battle.
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>>77702801
Damn Space Marines are so hard done by.
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>>77702722
they have 3 wounds and a 4++ you retard.
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>>77702599
I wasnt talking about metal models but retarded monoposing (which included metals) and tacticool rocks. you know, easy design choices but anti hobbyist ones.
You consoomer paypiggies love that shit because you cant be bothered to actually hobby with it. I should be asking you to post your models.
>>77702530
t.someone who agrees with gw
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>>77702780
Not sure, anywhere specific ya getting it from?
Pretty sure Knights for example are mentioned to be pretty good at dealing with typical nid horde strat, yet Nephilim King turned the tables by going full nidzilla and owned a whole knight house and a bunch of DA.
Nid titans are typically more melee oriented so they have an edge in that regard I guess.
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>>77702768
Kind of. They eat shit and then glance at the genome and think 'hey some of this is vaguely usable'. When you said 'processed' I assumed you meant like 'Gaunts are made from eaten guardsmen and Hive Guard are made from eaten Marines'.

>>77702295
God I fucking hate my camera. I used to have a nice one but it got busted, so I'm stuck with this shit. Whatever. Anyway, double fist Contemptor. My buddies usually let me run it as a Telemon, because fuck paying for a Telemon and we just play casually anyway.
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>>77701979
Yes, plasma guns are apparently these rare pieces of volatile technology that require careful attention lest they blow up on you, yet here you are, with all 12 of your Infantry squads having one, so much for the whole rarity thing.

The humble grenade launcher on the other hand is (was) cheap and cheerful. It makes sense that they would be issued on a squad basis.

In terms of the actual game you'd almost always be right that plasma > grenade launcher. The only exception I can think of is at long range as the plasma gun must be within rapid fire to get the most of it's value while the grenade launcher is always one or D6 shots regardless of range.
Also, D3 damage might have a place now against stuff like DG CSM as they treat D2 ad D1 anyhow but D3 has a chance of one-shoting them still.

> Also, do you really think that plasma spam won't get nerfed in the future? 5pts per gun won't last.
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>>77702295
>post your favorite model that you own
I think that the expresion in ths model is really well done. I did my best to paint this absolutely great sculpted face.
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>>77702745
>>77702766
>>77702777
>>77702847
----> the joke
Your black hole of a head
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>>77700352
You know what, that ain't a bad look

Lore wise id shit a brick, but ill take fem marines over numarines
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>>77702801
It was a time before rerollable 2+ everywhere
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>>77699440
>there's no legitimate reason not to

Fuck off and get out.

:^)
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>>77702891
>anywhere specific ya getting it from?
A vague memory of somebody saying it, I kinda like the idea since it's almost a weird sort of chivalry between these two factions but I don't remember where I got it from.
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>>77702905
>iM oNlY pReTeNdInG tO bE rEtArDeD
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>>77703020
Well nids wouldn't care for chivalry
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>>77703033
But they might care about titan guns, so I guess it's more like MAD.
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>>77703033
>>77703020
Funny you mention chivalry, but I'm gonna mention Nephilim King again and bring up that he restructured his own nidzilla hive to have the same hierarchy as a knight house and proceeded to taunt them and abuse their pride, so they definitely can recognize human concepts like that.
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>>77702818
ps2 eye cam
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>>77703085
Not that I want to get into a lore argument because the consistency is tenuous at best, but Hive Tyrants are described as barely sentient so it doesn't sound like it would be a widespread thing
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>they think the lore isn't moving in the direction of mankind having to ally with the xenos to deal with the nid threat
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>>77703026
The bladeguard are not the primaris bladeguard. They are primaris units, but they are the ones with gravis and storm shields. Should I have said Heavy Bladeguard?
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>>77703093
I can respect that.
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>>77703139
oh ok, so you are just retarded then
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>>77703135
>imperium
>doing anything sensible
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>>77703135
Ehhh if it's like "inquisition makes some deals with Eldar" stuff I'd say it's pretty cool, also helps to give nids more credit as a threat.
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>>77703135
That was kinda already a thing in the Cain books.
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>>77703188
they will have to. In fact xenos will be the only reason terra will be saved from the nids
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>>77702905
You'd make a shit comedian.
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>eldar lore is just 343 era forerunner lore
proof me wrong, humans are just the reclaimers/inheritors of the galaxy, most eldar are dead and stuffed in robotic bodies and only feel hate
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>>77702905
>black hole of a head
Shouldn't the joke immediately be dragged into the head then?
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>friend changed armies from Eldar to mono Slaanesh daemons
I just don't get it. We had lore. Our own fluff between our armies etc. And now he's sold them all off.
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>>77703263
Only if the joke crossed the event horizon. Which it looks like it didint
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>>77703290
Why? Eldar will be back to their usual degeneracy when they get their 9th edition codex.
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>>77703290
WAACfag jumped ship to the FOTM WAAC army. What's not to understand? You think people actually play Craftworlds because they like the models or the fluff?
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>>77703212
>>77703188
If we understand the premise that the setting is an excuse for war we should expect the Imperium to become more competent the more it gets beaten down to allow for more effective resistance so the war can continue.
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>>77703290
no new models does this to a man
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>>77703308
Event horizon is the point of no return, where light can't escape it, objects would still be drawn into it outside of it.
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>>77703246
>and only feel hate
They feel disdain instead
>>77703290
>tfw I'm an eldar player and I just ordered by first boxes of slaanesh for age of sigmar
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DA can be posed so fucking awesome, why do so many people cover up their whole body with the default holding gun pose?
They look so cool to me, similar appeal to a space marine, armoured dude with sword
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>>77703323
>You think people actually play Craftworlds because they like the models or the fluff?
Since 2nd edition
Hell, they were OP even in DoW
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I got a new phone.
Anyone have any good 40k backgrounds?
preferably of the green leatherman variety
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>love sculpts
>also want to convert a lot
>feel like converting most of stuff will dilute the overall feel of the army
>but then I won't be able to feel like a special snowflake customizing the fuck out of my guys
These feels..........
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>>77703290
fast big tit deamon on a big base in your army doing melee turn 1
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>>77703246
Do you mean Necrons?
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>>77703290
should have jumped to SoB, he will regret that
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>Want to play Guard
>Only practical regiments are Cadian or Catachan.
>Both look like crap
great.
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>>77703410
I don't understand, guard have best and most varied 3rd party models available.
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>>77703386
people are still sleeping on SoB. They are > marine power level and don't get as much shit from other players
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>>77703384
actually true, the prometheans are literally necron, make everyone machine to win plot, and the humans in halo and 40k both take the place as most dominent species and the ones who inherit the stars, like eldar
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>>77703410
New sculpts any day now...
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>>77703246
You post complete nonsense and ask for proof?

The only craftworld that's remotely true for is Iyanden and even then soulstone Eldar are never reduced to only feeling hate. They have the full emotional spectrum, just muted and distant without a psyker to help draw it out.
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>>77703446
They are harder to play and less popular.
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>>77703483
>>77703483
>>77703483
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I'm starting to come around to the look of this thing. Is it really as bad as people say, or was that an 8th edition thing?
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>>77703446
>They are > marine power level
substantiate that argument
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>>77703481
less popular yes, harder to play is like everything else. In the first couple of games sure, after that you get used to it and it's easy. It isn't rocket science
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>>77703446
They don't get shit because they've got great aesthetics and don't hog the spotlights every month
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>>77703489
Tau vehicles have always sucked, except when they could be used as one-way LOS blockers.
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Ok guys i need some help.

I recently got back to 40k, playing mainly Custards atm,

I am doing just fine with most matchups but for the life of me I cannot score anything more than a draw against Necrons.

the guy floods me with wraith charges turn 1-2,

those are not a big threat but it keeps me occu turn 1,2,3, after that I usuall mop the flor with the remaining necron units but until this time, that necron fucker scored so much on primaries and denied me mine that all I can do is catch up in turn 4-5.

Ive tried few armylists, with bikes, jump packs, with terminators, with Orion, still with the same result.

Any tips?
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>>77703446
Are there any shield carrying SoB? I like the aesthetic of a big knightly shield and a bolter alongside it.
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>>77703519
That's not even true. They've never been as straight up broken as suits but they have never been just bad.
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>>77703446
still sleeping? has no one seen what retributors do with multimeltas? easy 6 damage when you need it

>>77703489
no it's not good, not a lot is good in tau these days. that said i plan on getting one at some point for dropping mortal wounds and i am starting to like planes
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>>77703410
And Tempestus.
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>>77703542
This. Tau vehicles work well enough, suits are just broken and the average Tau player is a powergaming shit so you'll never see them.
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>>77703542
I think it's just a matter of synergy. Everything from drones to sept choices to stratagems Just Works on suits, while vehicles have what, a repair stratagem? Rerolls of 1 on wounds with a custom sept?
They have to operate on their own merits which is a tricky thing for a lot of units in modern 40k.
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>>77703620
powergaming so hard they lose 65% of games
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>>77703490
It's pretty obvious why SoB are better than marines. 1st of all they have probably the best mechanic in the game in the form of Miracle Dice. You basically remove the random aspect inherent to any army whenever you need it the most.

Second, and this is very important, you get to change +order+ depending on whatever the meta looks like or how you want to build your army. While marine players are stuck with whatever rules the chapter they choose, sisters can basically change their rules at will and nobody will complain.

3rd, while they have less wounds and toughness than marines, they are MUCh cheaper. Incredibly cheap for such resilient units. And don't forget that they use power armour and marine weapons. And unless you are stupid you relaize that having 10 t3 1w models with weapon X for 45 points, is by far superior to having 5 t4 2w marines with also weapon X but that cost 160 points. And this is before taking into account the arura bubbles, that just making having more models even better
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>>77703634
>being bad for one part of one edition means they've always been bad
Away with you, faggot. Take your drones and be gone from my game.
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>>77703649
>Second, and this is very important, you get to change +order+ depending on whatever the meta looks like or how you want to build your army. While marine players are stuck with whatever rules the chapter they choose, sisters can basically change their rules at will and nobody will complain.
This is a hell that literally only marines players have created for themselves and all they have to do to free themselves of it is to dismiss the whining of those who think their yellow army men have to be imperial fists, or make up their own chapter scheme to run as they like.
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>>77703687
fuck you bitch my list was always JUMP SHOOT JUMP and pihranna based movement, loser
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>>77703706
>mfw I use a /yourdudes/ scheme
>mfw I can run it as any army I fucking want
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>>77703706
>make up own chapter
>just run whatever codex I feel like
SOMEBODY STOP ME
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>>77703583
my nigga
>be kappic eagles
>3 command squads in a valkyrie with 4x plasma each
>drop next to enemy unit turn 1 (precision drop if necessary)
>+1 to hit turn 1, reroll orders from HQ in the next valkyrie
>24 shots of S8 AP-2 D2 shots with no risk of plasmasuicide
>all while looking like Jin Roh
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>>77703739
s-stop you have to run them as their successor chapter
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>>77703736
>>77703739
>not collecting 4 different colors of space marines
N-no you cannot do this!
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>>77703381
>dilute the overall feel of the army
What? The fuck does that even mean?



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