"Get the eff in here, (PC) we've got some sith to hunt!" editionPrevious thread: >>77681479A thread for discussing the 'Star Wars' franchise and its various gaming adaptations.Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing, Armada, and Legion>https://pastebin.com/9puqx1zeStar Wars Roleplaying Games (d6/d20/FFG)>https://pastebin.com/iUriRfaAOther FFG Star Wars tabletop (Imperial Assault, Destiny and the LCG)>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yNOld links>https://pastebin.com/yUVx32wBLatest FFG news:>https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/19/smooth-talking-smuggler/>https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/19/the-hunt-continues/>https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/15/reinforcements-of-renown/>https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2021/2/4/op-announcement-from-atomic-mass-games/What's the most obvious NPC/PC write in for a famous fictional character (from Star Wars or another series) that you ever did?
>>77695213>What's the most obvious NPC/PC write in for a famous fictional character (from Star Wars or another series) that you ever did?a rebel special forces agent who lost his vocal cords in an unspecified warship crashhe uses a blaster pistol in one hand and a lightsaber in the other and while everyone assumes he is a former jedi of some kind, supported by his insistence on wearing a mask to hide his scars and identity, the truth will never be known
>>77695323Nice. Does he perchance have an arch rival?
>>77695213>What's the most obvious NPC/PC write in for a famous fictional character (from Star Wars or another series) that you ever did?I've not yet actually done it, but during an MGS lore binge, I realised how perfectly a pastiche of Big Boss and Solid Snake would work in the setting. >An old ARC Trooper who had to kill his Jedi Master friend and mentor during Order 66>was granted the title of "General" as an underhanded promotion from Palpatine or some other smarmy higher up>became disillusioned with the whole business, 'retired'>realised that Clones were all just disposable tools, now discarded and without purpose>went and founded a mercenary base on the galactic rim, gathering Clones and other lost and purposeless soldiers to a cause>is only known as "The General", is a legendary soldier>might have gone mad and constructing a superweapon that'd ignite a Galactic War once more so that soldiers like him and his Brothers can't ever be discarded again>weirdos using the Force in esoteric ways may or may not featureYou can kinda insert bits and pieces of the entire MGS storyline into this and it'd work
>>77696288Looks so stupid. Traditional nose arts are way better.
>>77696343>Traditional nose arts are way better.nothing more traditional than a sharkface
>>77696343That is Traditional nose art.
>>77696288>>77696343I like both, but Rancor mouth is better.
>>77696288>>77696343Anyone think with the release of the LAAT/Ie for Empire, that GAR in legion will get their iconic gunship?
>>77696384Well, GAR is getting the Laat /le too, it's a dual-faction release. That, combined with just how much bigger the true deal is, makes it seem pretty unlikely to happen at least any time soon.I think there's a solid chance it happens some day. But the Laat gunship is 28 meters long; the Saber tank is 8m long and already a $60 kit.
>>77696343There's a dude who paints nude pinups on his ships and then brings them to the store and won't stop talking about them.Some curious parent will walk by with their kid in tow, and ask about the game, and I immediately lose their interest due to creepy pinup guy. Hope he fucking died of covid or something by the time stores are back.
>>77696417If Legion keeps on being successful I don't think it would be out of the realm of possibility to see an Apocalypse-style expansion with rules for bigger battles and expensive centrepiece models that don't fit in the standard format e.g. the LAAT, AT-TE, Homing Spider Droid, and maybe even an AT-AT if they're feeling brave enough. I reckon there's probably enough demand for models like that to make it worth it, hell I know I'd go out and pre order a Legion scale LAAT gunship.
>>77696477Yeah, I roughly agree. I think, on its current trajectory (which is, so far, very successful with very large growth), Legion is 2-3 years from starting to do "massive" kits. They'd probably start with "slightly-oversized" and go from there, rather than diving into Warhound Titan territory off the bat.Another thing, though, is unlike certain Workshops where Games are made, with Legion they don't come up with a model then invent rules to sell it. Legion's development is to make a fun and thematic unit first, then design the miniature to fit the rules (with some exceptions - it's a collaboration, of course, sometimes form informs function too). And so, accordingly, they are never going to release an AT-AT or whatever, unless they have designed it internally and made sure it's actually fun to play; with and against. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they have already been doing exactly that for a while now, and just have yet to hit upon a fun design - Armada's SSD was in development from pretty much Wave 2, but didn't actually come out until wave 7.5.
>>77696477>Homing Spider DroidWouldn't be any/much bigger (and much less total volume) than an AAT, would they?
>>77695533still finding a way to implement his rival in-game without stealing the spotlight away from the partybut his former classmate threw in with the empire and works as a mercenary to take revenge on him for murdering their teacher
How would you even balance a LAAT for Legion? Those things are fucking gunships that can level a battlefield with cannons and missiles, good luck if they include the rape laser pods.
>>77697036Dunno. They've got somebody paid full time to figure that out.
KNEEL BEFORE THE DRAGON OF ZAKUUL
Heres my post-rotj PC bro>Ex-Deathtrooper forced into "early retirement">hates the NR but just has to live with it, nothing they can do individually can bring the empire back>gets asked tons of questions on why theyre a simple farmer yet are a 6ft 3in monster with surgical scars all over their body
>>77696343Any nose art > no nose art
this is what turned kylo to the dark side
>>77697210That sounds fun. Did he get to keep the armor?
>>77697036They already gutted it for X-wing, pls don't make them do that again
>>77696659The big problem I see with it is that it looks like it would need an enormous base to fit those legs on.
>>77697451>Armor is on a scarecrow
>>77695213I once copied the Mountie from Due South almost 1:1 to keep my players from doing too much crime,
>>77695213"Hey guys. Thanks for turning up to the armory aboard the MC80 Forgotten Weapon. I'm quartermaster McCollum and today I'm going to be issuing you some BARChat automatic blaster rifles."
>>77698412Why does this boulder have a handle?
>>77698470Poorfag trench club?
>Gamma Assault shuttle has these guys on the boarding party
>>77698524>Hey, remember how the Death Star had a garrison of Stormtroopers?>Yeah?>And, remember how when a Star Destroyer brought Leia's ship into its hangar bay, they boarded the ship with Stormtroopers?>... Yeah?>Let's invent a new, very slightly different Stormtrooper, and say that these are what the Empire stations aboard ships.
>>77698599I would like to see a Pentagon Wars style bit but for troopers
>>77698599You mean Imperial Navy Troopers?
>>77698649I don't remember any indication those guys were armed from the movies, but at least they were literally in the movies and the rest is plausible from there. It'd be more like if they saw those guys, made a new slightly-different looking guy, and said "these are the guns who control the weapon stations on ships in our game".
>>77698649Ah the classic fodder for the PA in the old Thrawn's Revenge versions before they got Army Trooper models to fill the ranks
>>77698677>I don't remember any indication those guys were armed from the moviesQue?
>>77698851Oh, well there you go. "I don't remember" was chosen over "it didn't happen" intentionally.
>>77697210Can death troopers be chicks?
>>77698715They first appeared in Thrawn Trilogy books and related merchandise, the image from the previous post is from the SW: Rebellion grand strategy game
>>77698880I know, I'm just remember the period they were the default infantry for the PA in Thrawn's Revenge
>>77698880SW Micro Machines was the fucking shit. Actually Micro Machines in general. The military line with Terror Troops was fucking perfect for a kid like me playing C&C.
>>77698715>>77698880They were also present in most vidya from the best period, for example in both parts of Dark Forces
>>77698864I'm not trying to start any shitstorm, but the statement sounded weird for me since they have a literal shootout with those guys while trying to rescue Leia
>>77698869Dirty old Krennic...
>>77698972Hah, I still have those little guys somewhere. I missed my chance to buy a stormtroopers pack once and it still annoys me.
>>77697036They already did represent an LAAT in legion. It's doubtful they'll do more
>>77699052I had the grey Imperials too. Wish I had the stormies. Had a lot still though from the 1-2 guys you'd usually get from all the other sets. Used disguised Luke and Han as helmet less stormies as well. For some reason though all of my four TIE Fighters broke.
>>77698412Hello and welcome to the Catapult Talk. Recently the Empire has been trying to, hehe, sabotage our Ewok Union, so I've been working on some new designs. This here is a prototype I call Walker-Knocker, hohoho, let me show you its features
>>77698869A Female death trooper is on the ship in rebels when sabine and ezra help Saw to steal the giant kyber crystal
So GCW gets Lando/A-A5 and Kallus/LAAT-le. Then CW gets the Wookiee attack on the Droids. After that will be another GCW wave: what will they get?
>>77699303Probably Senate Guards, some Jedi like Mace and Plo Koon. Maybe Nemodian & Geonosian troops plus Ventress or Trench
>>77699303Ahsoka dual Republic/Rebels release with Siege of Mandalore stuff
>>77697210>constant requests from shady officers from the official Imperial Remnant state>they want you to come take a job in an "instruction and advisory role" for their new Imperial Army Special Forces that replaced the disbanded Stormtrooper Corps>occasionally get bothered by even shadier 'remnants' organized under various warlords, who can barely hide their intentions to just strip your cybernetics out of you to reverse engineer
>>77699303I'd like a Fallen Order themed set
>>77699303Wraith Squadron vs. Zsinj's Raptors. Maybe some day.
>>77699374>constant requests from shady officers from the official Imperial Remnant statehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVrnVJBRynQ
>>77698869the mg34 blaster is cool and all, but an fg42 blaster would be even cooler. With the grenade cup to spice it up a bit.
Playing Fallen Order, how do I get a Nightsister gf in real life?
>>77699651Go to goth clubs
Why does every miniature game forget about Old Ben?
>>77699800>Old BenYou could get him in the Imperial Assault
>>77698869This particular Death Trooper captain from the final season of Star Wars Rebels was a female, voiced by Jennifer Hale no less.Her identification number was DT-F16>DTF = Down To Fuck>16 year olds
>>77697210I want this except the New Republic is actively rehabilitating Death Troopers (female) into civilian life with small shota companions
>>77699498Based and Raptorpilled. Too bad there's no TOS miniatures game with Harry Mudd. One could just kit bash him into Zsinj
>>77699800Legion: Operative Ben, could have a similar Secret Mission thing going on as Padme.X-Wing: Crew Ben, some sort of force crew, base it around him training Luke on the Falcon.
>>77700023Harcourt Fenton Mudd isn't evil enough to be Zsinj
>>77700041>LegionHe could be a tanky tarpit whose entire purpose is to die so he can pass some sort of silly buff to a nearby friendly unit, like giving a nearby Luke a bonus attack that stacks with SOS.
>>77700077He's fat enough
>>77700077>only 70,000 posts until >>77777777
>>77700156we have the precedent
>>77698869They're cyborgs to some degree. I imagine biotech/augs make women in elite units more common than it is in our world.
>>77699600Based. Slap that kraut optic on there and you really don't need any more modifications to make it Star-Warsy.
>>77701357Why do I hear choir music?
>>77701408I'd take out the magazine and put some cobbled together optic monstrosity on the ironsight at the end of the barrel for true Star Wars gribbly
>>77701357From thumbnail that thing looked like a Robocop.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1_38445vA
Is there any reason not to just nationalize these fags?
>>77699931>Her identification number was DT-F16Is this actually true?
>>77701717Because the creation of the NR was just replacing one elite with another, in many cases elites that were already so during the Old Republic and during the Empire. Rebs and Imperials were all just chumps in an internal power struggle at the end of the day.
>>77696861When will you reveal that it was actually the Clawdite Shapeshifter all along?
>>77702245Yes, she's even a squad upgrade in Legion.
>>77702245yes, she's even in legion
>>77701717From an Imperial perspective; not really. The ruling families on Kuat ran a tight ship and *delivered*. They kept their heads down and met whatever ship building targets they were set, so why disturb a good thing? For the NR: nationalisation would be a political minefield. You also risk Kuat deciding to declare independence/not join the NR and daring anyone to try and seize their shipyards.
>>77702393>>77702391Fuck it, it's settled then. I'll start an Imperial army in Legion.
>>77701717You want to start the Corporate Sector War? Because that's how you start eh Corporate Sector War.
Is Star Wars D6 still used by any of you? Or have most people moved on to the more recent games?
>>77702439>They kept their heads down and met whatever ship building targets they were set,Explains some of the...questionable craft they created.
>>77696343Imagine being so retarded that you not only don't know that shark teeth are traditional nose art, but to not think that it looks fucking awesome.
I really liked the ARCs from Gendy's series, though I appreciate the canon ARCs being experienced clone troopers.
>>77703552New canon sort of replaced ARCs with the idea that the commanders like Cody were the superior ones
>>77703615But Cody is an ARC.
What are the chances of a Chancellor Palpatine and dual wielding Darth Sidious units for Republic and Separatists in Legion?
>>77702718Would that be like the Iraq War?
>>77703850Would be silly. It IS a war game, that’s important to keep in mind. Rune Haako only made it in bc he’s a hostage lol.
>>77702789I'm a firm believer that ship happened when the head of Kuat and Raith Seinar ended up going on a bender together, and whilst almost all police records of what then transpired are sealed, 8 months later that thing rolled off the Kuat yards.
>>77704193It'd be more like Clone Wars 2.0, right down to the corporate sector fleet using old surplus Munificents and Recusants.
>>77704213Or is that legends? I remember reading the RotS dictionary that Cody and other commanders were all ARCs. Might be wrong.
>>77704371Reminds me of that Zaeed copypasta
>>77704409Not him, but that's what I remember too. I also have recollections from my time on the Wook that the lore's kinda confusing on that point. Some sources treated the ARCs as the special forces whose training and modifications would be watered down to produce commanders, while others treated them as one and the same.
>>77704759Sounds right. Then you have the Null ARCs and Alpha.
>>77701717Uhhh I thought the Empire effectively HAD nationalized most of the shipbuilders. It just wasn't quite as overt as "The national shipbuilder company", it was more like a lot of Chinese modern companies where they have unscheduled-scheduled visits from the purity officers and audits and spies to make sure there's no funny business. Effectively the guys at top of the company are more or less just mouth pieces and managers for whatever the Empire's demands are, not truly independent like some of the CIS company leaders were.>>77701408Probably need to remove the front sight, and maybe trade the wood for either a very dark wood or plastic. Maybe have some coiled wire going from rear sight. Saw down the magazine like the E-11 and sterling.>>77701128This>>77702769I run D6>>77703327I live by a fetish buffet of nose art and colorful planes at the AF museum, it's great.
>>77705091I miss the fruit vendor poster.
>>77699016The later shootout with the actual stormtroopers is more memorable I guess, partially because it leads to the trash compactor scene.
>>77700077They're both sly men with business empires
>>77701427Not just any choir music, but EPIC FANTASY [8K] [320KBPS] DIURNAL CHOIR CHANT (USE HEADPHONES)
>>77703615I thought ARCs and Commanders were pulled from the same pool of experienced clones who survive multiple tough engagements while it's only Commandos who were designed from the ground up to be bogans "deluxe package" troopers
>>77705052Yup, something about a red sand bender that ended up with dead krogan and orphans. I can't find it anywhere
>>77699488What new did Fallen Order add, aside from some of the Inquisitors?
>>77706674Purge Troopers (albiet they're black clone paratroopers), melee scouts, and a new flame-trooper
>>77706882I miss Robin Sachs
>>77706674The Zeffo species, more Jedi to the Canon, the weird ogre monsters, the 4-armed pilot species, I know you said no inquisitors, but hot goth tsundere Second Sister is worth mentioning regardless
>>77707079Iden is good precedent that Second Sister is a possibility. Problem is, we'll probably get Grand Inquisitor first, and there's a lot of mechanical overlap between them; not to mention the overlap between GI and Vader to begin with. So it wouldn't be soon. Maybe in like two years...
>>77706740This. Give me some bogdos and Oggdo Bogdo so I can run an empire army of Big Frogs>>77707079Greeze would make for a cool Rebel model but fuck me if I know how to make him viable out of the Mantis. I feel like you could do something flavorful with BD-1 too. Maybe hacking Droid units or something?
Calzone from Fallen Order would be interesting as a modelYou could maybe assemble the mini to have single, double or dual lightsabers
>>77706882Based and Space Aussie pilled
>>77699600The ones with the scope are pretty rad looking guns, got the wooden hardware, loudenator flash comp on the barrel weird stock shape and hand grip. Really at this point all they need is some whacky heat sinks or something hanging off them.>>77701408The Mk1 repro that Ian's been using is a pretty sweet looking gun, it doesn't look very comfortable but then again he's a lefty abomination against nature and suffers accordingly instead of training his right eye and deserves everything. The funniest thing about it all is the demands the Luftwaffles put on the specifications wanting it to be everything from a light MG to sniper rifle in the same package
>>77707349>CalzoneWas there a secret Italian Cal costume I missed or something?
>>77708179>Luftwaffles put on the specifications wanting it to be everything from a light MG to sniper rifle in the same packageThe power of German Space Magic, it's only rivaled by simple Mormon Gun Magic.
>>77708277No, they have Greez. He’s as Italian as the Neiomodians are Asian.
>>77708277The mysterious and ancient Italian Samurai order that stole noodles from the asians back in the day and rebranded them as spaghetti
>>77706740Niggdo Biggdo :)>>77704921Planes of Fame?
>>77708287Don't forget the Vodka MagicIts like German space magic but with pulleys, cables, tractor parts and the incentive of not going to gulag
>>77708418don't you ever post this again
>>77708443This would make a great space gun, a nugget with a revolver grenade launcher, because when they're too far away to hit with your Obrez
>>77708418Looks like tools for medium-renovations around the house
So last night I was asking about playing Legion Skirmish, and I was warned that one of its issues it it makes saber users and other units much more powerful because of the 3'x3' play area. Would making the game more vertical help with this? Giving ranged units elevated areas where they can perch to be relatively safe from melee unless that melee approaches on elevated walkways with little to no cover?
>>77708655Most saber wielders have jump or scale anyways
>>77708653They had a doctrine about dropping lots of fabulous paratroopers behind the lines and renovating other people's houses with gunfire to create distractions on the main battle line and disrupt supplies/comms, so its more or less the same thing
>>77708418Bottom left is a star wars gun
>>77708771>>77708655The main thing is, the game just isn't balanced around skirmish, it's balanced around 800 points. Skirmish is a casual format, and people play it because it's different and emphasizes different units, but it's never going to hold up to full games in terms of balance.
>>77708786Bottom left looks like a Nerf gun
>>77708795That's fine, I'm pretty much just after a fun way to play things with my GF's friend. She's taking the clones off my hands because she's really into the Clone Wars show and I want the game to be a good experience when we play - it'd be nice to help her actually get into the game.
>>77695213anyone have the Steve MRE meme for Confederates?
>>77709105Steve is in Star Wars?
>>77709138I wish, but someone made a copy-pasta about taste testing Confederate MRE's from gray to silver to gold packages
>>77709167>Confederate MRE'What the hell is the diet of a B series battle droid?
>>77709218made for the non-droid auxiliaries and officers
>>77709105I wish I'd kept the Steve reviews of the CIS rations but they should be on an archive somewhereThink it went Bronze, Silver and Gold ration from memory
>>77709218Batteries and booze
>>77709259Yeah, sounds right. IIRC the bronze pack was some protein sludge and hard tac
Imagine being called 'The Lesser'
>>77709335these helmets all make their heads look too small
>>77709335Imagine wearing an 18th century wig on top of your helmet
>>77709335Probably got a poor report card at mando school>Mandalore could try harder but is easily distracted by playing around on Geonosis and displays a poor aptitude for taking cover against gunfire
>>77709335Imagine being called The Lesser when there's not even a The Greater to mog on you. You're just the least possible Mandalore they could accept as THE Mandalore.
>>77709459He's gonna either ratify the Constitution or draft some legalization to declare the Mandos an endangered species so they'll be protected
>>77709417Shoulder Pads were just very much the fashion in Mandalore. They never really grew out of the 90s
>>77709335>mandalorians were originally yautja
>>77709514And they got kicked off Coruscant by the 12 Colonies of Kobol.... I mean the 13 Nations of Zhell.
>>77709335I fucken hate Mandalorians so much I would buy a collector's edition of the legendary Rian Johnson trilogy on Blu-ray and watch it 1.5 times in exchange for that subhuman culture disappearing from canon and fandom's collective memory, and never getting a single mention again.
>>77709614I second this.
>>77702316>>77695213Reminder that Jar Jar had a gf (and you don't)
How hard would it be to befriend Palpatine? Not like be an ass kisser ""friend"" like most of his subordinates like Tarkin were but an actual friend that he'd prefer the company of? Someone with an actual affinity to the Emperor?
>>77709992Very difficult. Palpatine is pretty much as bad as they come.
>>77709992>palpatine in ep6 specifically shot in such a way that he never directly addresses anyone other than vader and luke directly >the closest he gets to interacting with mortals is an offscreen interaction with his cabinet members and using an intercom unless you are an essential pawn in his game, he wont even acknowledge your existence
>>77710072There's also "Guards, leave us"
>>77709614seetheMuh honor warrior cultures are cool.
>>77709992Palpatine doesn't have friends. He simply doesn't have the capacity for that. Sure, he can feign it, and he finds allies in people who hold similar opinions to his own, but that's it.Even the Silly Hat Club members aren't his friends, they're just cronies on a different level from the average.
>>77709992Papa Sheev is a full on Sigma Male, he doesn't need friends
>>77709992Iunno, ask Sly Moore
>>77710142So, you can only be friends with Sheev if you fuck him?
>>77710142Sly isn't a friend, she's just another tool to an end.
>>77710225Yes, Tarkin was an amazing butt-buddy I'm sure.
>>77709614Mandalorian fans are just closet trannies. They all want to feel special and unique like the little snowflakes they are.
Still less gay than disney wars.
>>77710290>They all want to feel special and unique like the little snowflakes they are.well, if i do get mandos for legionthey are all getting unique custom paintjobs with the paint scheme of an OC lan
>>77710069>>77710072>>77710127>>77710133Jeez, even Vader had a few friends he genuinely cared about.Well how about Grievous? Could he be befriended?
>>77710490If he wasn't too jaded by that point, probably. He seemed like a legit dude who did nothing wrong. Repooblic did him dirty.
>>77710294Star Wars is pretty gay in general (Especially the old republic)
>>77710490Vader absolutely didn't have friends. He had people he hated slightly less, but that's it. Even Tarkin isn't Vader's friend, just someone whom he finds acceptable for the time being.
>>77710490Could be, but you'd have big shoes to fill, until his dying breath he never did get over the loss of Kummar.But hey, if you did miraculously manage to befriend him, he'd be loyal to the end. That's something.
>>77710541He didn't seem to hate this guy.
>>77710490Sociopaths and narcissists tend to view relationships as being strictly transactional.
>>77710490Grievous had his pet Gor.
>>77710535I'm just glad they made Khem Val romanceable. Was scoping that dude out for my BT1 femquisitor the second I picked him up.
If you had a chance to make your own special edition of the 6 movies, what would to switch up?
>>77710729who also got done dirty
>>77711044I'd reincorporate some of the deleted scenes and fix up some of the SFX, but that's it.
>>77710490Prior to cyborging he had a harem of wives, but they presumably ment little more to him then the inchoate of his people as a whole, who at the time did matter to him enough to sell his services to the banking clan in return for paying off Kalee's debt to the Republic. Post Cyborging the capacity to care was probably removed via surgery and left him with only enough to contextualize his hatred of the Jedi
>>77711147Modernize the prequel CG to a current standard maybe
triple sword BX or triple magnaguard when they show up?melee droids will be fun
>>77708389>Planes of FameWell, idk if dumping canned sunshine counts as good fame, but it's fame all the same
>>77696452And people like you are a million times worse.Holy shit, wishing death upon a guy because you disagree with how he paints his miniatures and talks about painting his miniatures.You have to go back, then neck yourself.
>>77711044Raise 1/2 to the levels of Episode 3 CGI minimum.Restore the og cantina scene, maybe with some of the extra critters shown later. Honestly ANH special edition, aside from the Han-Greedo thing, is mostly fine. A few things need a bit better CGI (from the "first" special editions, like the ugly ships) but thats it. OH unfuck Luke's lightsaber.ESB needs no changes. Put the OG boba actor in the credits though too, he deserves it.Rotj? No real changes needed other than Jabbas sail barge/Sarlacc CGI and the singing scene. Get rid of "NOOOOO" and restore Yub Nub. The spanish guitar can play during the montage of the galaxy, that can come after. Or during credits. Put Anakin's og ghost in. You can probably put Christian in somehow, like show him "age" to the new one or soemthing if you must. Endor can probably be redone purely via CGI to make some of it smoother.
>>77711489I feel like transitioning from Yub Nub to the new tune would work if done smoothly enough, I kinda Favor Hayden for consistancy, I can easily imagine new fans being confused like "who dat" but i do like the idea of aging him up mid showingCredit everyone in top billing. Prowse, Jones etc.
>>77709992Of course not. He's a Sith lord. They value power above all.>>77710490Canon and EU get this idea wrong about Vader even attempting to make friends. You're either a gear in the machine or a rock to be crushed under boot.
>>77711606Literally only 2 cracks existed in his cold. machine like hate, Padme and Luke.
>>77711582>I can easily imagine new fans being confused like "who dat"You mean the guy they literally saw with his helmet off a few scenes ealier?Should all movies come with a "take ritialin now" warning for people born after a certain date?Because if they can't hold their focus for that long, I'd hate to see someone try and play anything at the table, even if it was simple as a Star Wars themed "match the pictures" board game.
>>77710628EU authors got shit wrong all the time. Vader would've killed Luke if he kept resisting and had no qualms of using his daughter as a replacement. Vader and Sheev are the embodiment of pure evil.
>>77711625I distills down to his inability to let go of anything or anyone he was afraid to lose: first Shmi, then Padme, then Luke.
>>77711652Then maybe this was just a problem for my autistic brain
>>77711044There are a number of deleted scenes from the PT that should've been included to add some context like the founding of the Alliance and Anakin meeting Padme's family. I would've included a minor cameo of Ahsoka due to TCW S7. Nothing over the top, it would be like Vos' cameo in TPM.
>>77711655You literally do not understand what happened in the end of ROTJ then. Luke literally *DID* "keep resisting" and tossed his lightsaber and told palpatine he would never turn.Then palpatine proceeded to try and kill him (which in your scenario vader would be 100% ok with), but then he tosses his boss into the reactor shaft and saves his son.Your headcanon is wrong.
>>77711416Planes of Fame is an aviation museum in San Bernardino, CA that looks awfully similar to your photos
>>77711726Forgot about this?
>>77711726No, if Vader didn't mention Leia he would've been forced to kill Luke by Palpatine. No rage to save Luke from getting double teamed, anon.
>>77711781Ohhh, no no, the National Museum of the United States Air Force, in Dayton Ohio (adjacent to Wright Patterson Air Force Base)https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Their virtual tour is pretty dang good, they have real high quality imageshttps://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Virtual-Tour/I highly recommend the prototype/experimental tour area and space. Some real gems that never came to be like the Valkyrie, or YF-23, and a HEXAGON satellite from the CIA (where they'd have film reels get pooped out by sats and have to retrieve them). A real amazing place in terms of how much they have. They have some ww2 and communist defector/captured planes and weapons too that are pretty neat.
>>77711784>>77711804That was just Vader baiting Luke into attacking him.
Would the B1-A be a good template for a successor to the OOM Series?
>>77711804>No rage to save Luke from getting double teamed, anon.>he has a command card that exists solely to prevent him from being double teamed
>>77710490Odds aren't good that'd you'd be able to befriend Grievous. He's got definite meatbag envy (as seen in his self-conscious hatred of droids which he's all to similar too now) plus tragic backstory, which is likely to make him even more of an anger-filled shell of a Kaleesh. But, if you proved to be that ultra-rare breed of bad guy, the one who's loyal to the end no matter how often things get pear-shaped and you get left in a lurch, he'd at the very least have a respect for your dependability.
>>77710541He had Veers and Commander Appo
>>77713081Neither of whom were friends.
>>77709614Lol you just don't like them because they are popular
>>77709992I thought Tarkin was his friend?
>>77711655Nice headcanon, but no one cares about your edgy fantasies.
>>77713428Tarkin's probably the closest thing that Palpatine had to a friend, but even then it's not really a "friend" type of relationship, but more "we think mostly alike, and he'll do what I tell him to do."
>>77711429Coomers aren’t people
>>77697870one trooper base per leg
What units would you expect(not necessarily want) to see added to Legion?I could easily see a pair of Operative expansions for Asoka and Ventress. Jar-Jar and Gungans also wouldn't surprise me.
>>77714368Gungans/Geonosians would be coolMaybe Gunray would be the counterpart to Jar-Jar? Hard to say.
Does anyone here actually play xwing 2.0 still?I left my models at my dad’s house during covid so I havent been able to get a game in. Even if I had them I dont see anyone at my LGS playing it or posting about games anymore. I did lose some excitement over the constant point balancing ruining some combos I liked. I never got to play the new epic rules either.
>>77714562I sold my X-Wing stuff a week before 2.0 was announced and I've never been luckier.
>>77712794i retract my statement
>>77714620Im an idiot I bought all mine like 3 months before 2.0 came out. I feel like Im left holding your bags. I did enjoy it before 2.0 and I got all my empire stuff for pretty cheap. I just really not feeling 2.0 but now it feels practically dead. Never even got to use my raider in an epic game either.
>>77714734Even before covid it was pretty dead. I worked at a LGS that had a decent amount of X-Wing every week, and when 2.0 came out pretty much everyone who played slowly transitioned to Legion.
>>77695755> A weapon to surpass the death star
>>77714775>A weapon to surpass the death starWhat's the EU post-Endor for 500 credits
>>77714756Sometimes I wish someone other than FFG holds the license and the rpgs werent garbage. Well guess im getting into legion. Seems the same here, theres a legion night every week and had 10 people confirmed attending this week. Is empire stronk?
Why is she the best in the Imperial Starfleet?
>sith is an anagram of shit
>>77714929What's the big horizontal cylinder on her butt, anyway?
>>77714954>It's also an anagram of an ancient demon door named hits.
>>77714929Shes ugly AND FAT
>>77714918>Is empire stronk?empire is currently the weakest competitively, although 3x shoretroopers is nothing to sniff atat the non-competitive level, they are actually still very balancedthey are the easiest to learn and have a very smooth learning curve, so you will hold your own and generally defeat most people at your levelonce upon a time, empire was the most popular faction in the game by far, but the game has settled into roughly equal number of players in all 4 factions as it should be
>>77714929said it before, and I'll say it again, more small ships, less big ships.
>What's the most obvious NPC/PC write in for a famous fictional character (from Star Wars or another series) that you ever didI'm still working out the details but I want to make X-treme space races the running theme of my campaign.One of the NPC racers I wanted to use is a spiced out of his mind Raith Sienar driving increasingly insane TIE variants while his poor employees try to convince him to do anything else.
>>77715039Shut up fag
>>77715039>he cant handle BBWs
>>77715013I dont know why everyone doesn't play Clones purely from a looks standpoint. Phase 1 clones are aesthetic as fuck
>>77695323Post-ROTJ, the Empire is fractured. A veteran Stormtrooper of the Galactic Civil War era is underneath a Moff who has fewer troops than they need. Fresh, new recruits are brought in to fill out the Stormtrooper ranks but they are a bunch of jerkoffs without proper training or esprit de corps. My crusty, hardass Stormtrooper has to whip these undisciplined, under-performing new troops into shape and lead them into the post ROTJ war where the Imperials are the ones fighting on the backfoot.
>>77715315How does it feel to know your preferred style of ships only exist because a single retarded autist couldn't let go of the word "destroyer" having an IRL meaning and so insisted that Star Destroyers weren't the main ship of the line at all merely a middle-tier vessel?I mean, it's not your dad drunkenly confessing to you he sucks cocks in truckstop bathrooms, but I imagine it's pretty embarrassing.
>>77715816Bro they're just fictional ships, you're acting autistic as fuck lol
>>77715816Who hurt you? Raith again?
>>77714116Lower on that scale are faggots from plebbit.At least he's actually contributing to the game.
>>77715816NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE SOMETHING EVEN AN INCH BIGGER THAN A STAR DESTROYER!!!!!!! MUH SMALL SHIPS MUH CLOWN DESIGNS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>77715816Does this image give you an aneurysm? I hope it does.
>>77695323Not a real Snake Eyes expy unless he uses grenades as part of his martial arts Force powers.
>>77715931I thought the Pillar of Autumn was destroyed with Installation 004!
The more swooping art-deco looking Imperial Star Cruisers should come back.
>>77715986What a good artstyle
>>77716038The early EU comics had their moments. Watercolor splash pages always look good.
>>77715951you know he does
Why did Hackas change Grievous from a fearless, ice-cold British terminator into a cowardly, mustache-twirling Russian portable dialysis machine?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXK1urpnRkY
>>77716313Because 2D is easier to make look cool than 3DNext question
>>77715613I dunno, the problem is that the best thing to add to a clone army are more clones. And you want them all in one place. Sucks when people start throwing bombs and poison at you, so you need Obi-Wan to a sanatize the air with his lightsabre, etc. It just gravitates to strongly to one playstyle imo
>>77716343That doesn't explain why he went from British in Genndy Wars to Russian in ROTS
>>77716313Because Lucas just gave Gendy some concept art and a basic description that Grievous was a Jedi killer.
>>77696417do you think Legion will ever get fuck you large figures like 40k?
>>77716397Brit Grievous sounded fucking weird anyway, honestly, his voice was too smooth. Accent aside, Grievous sounds better with a raspy cough
>>77716362>It just gravitates to strongly to one playstyle imothats more because P2s + ARCs + rex is OP, than a lack of playstyles
>>77709992He did had a friend is Sate Petage, Sly Moore and even Vader before he fucked up so badly in mustafar. Sheev did care, but it was in an extremely warped way, difficult to discern.
>>77709992The first step is acquiring an extraordinary hat
>>77717105I'd assume to him 'friendship' was appreciation for someone whose cunning and intellect were close enough to his while being a loyal asset rather than a threat to his power
>>77695213try extremely obscure character that you ripped off>the sane member of the party>does all the logisitics of the group, because OOC im the only one who reads the sourcebook to know what we can all buy>quick to anger and quick to use violence
>>77716397Because Mace's attack just before the start of RoTS caused a ripple effect backward in time, causing grievous to cough at odd moments, and changed his vocal patterns.None dared question it, lest they feel his wrath.
>>77717105>sheev did careWhich one of >>77717289 those guys is sheev?
>>77717347he shatterpointed it so hard he accidentally cracked reality and grievous' throat phased into the world between worlds, it makes sense
>>77717397>the world between worldsSorry, it exists in the bad timeline, no such place in the real timeline.
>>77717452this event resonated with the quintessence through subhyperspace and therefore could be head at the same moment throughout the entire universe and in all the timelines
>>77717482Still in the bad timeline.Just work with some Force regressive time paradox. It saves having to invoke anything from 2012 and after.
why do i get the feeling all this timeline talk comes from the same person every time?
>phase 1 and 2 are seperate units that you can take in the same armyTrash.
>>77717756the alternative is either selling P1s and P2s as just cosmetic differences, which would mean 2 packs representing the same unitor forcing the players to take only a single type, locking them out of half their corp choicesand also creating a faction within a faction that severely limits list building
>>77717785Just make the helmets optional.
>>77717825this would also cause more problems then it alleviates, because its now possible to run mixed P1s and P2s in the same squad and with the exact same statsby separating them into different units, mixing both helmets in the same squad is discouraged while also adding some much needed unit diversity by having basic troopers that do different things
>>77717741Why do I get the feeling all the whingy posts come from the same faggot. Every. Single. Thread.You ever play any Star Wars board games, or you just here to bitch?
>>77717956>You ever play any Star Wars board gamesif you ever see someone trying to shill shoretroopers in legion, its probably methis cannot be repeated enough, but target 1 is hilariously better than defend 1
>>77715986They're literally amorphous blobs for speed drawing.>>77714562Not during covid, no. I'll be back when I go into a store again. So like, April maybe.
>>77717956What does bitching about timelines have to do with any of the tabletop games?
>>77717756They couldn't have possibly replaced all armors overnight. Imagine it's in the transition period when some units recieved new gear and some are still waiting for theirs.
>>77718037>What does bitching about everything have to do with any of the tabletop games?ftfyAlso, ever play Star Wars Stratego? It was fun!
>>77711044Bascially this >>77711712, but I'll also put in a Hego Damask cameo into TPM.
>all this phase 1 vs phase 2 talkJust pretend someone pissed off the quartermaster or something
>>77718241You can just not put them both in your army, if you want. It's not any different from Cassian+Luke or whatever. The game is a "plausible abstraction".
>>77718241Alternative: Phase-1 troopers are the shinies, fresh from Kamino, and issued with the 'standard' gear. The Phase-2s in your army are the more experienced troops who have received field upgrades during the course of the war.
So, for actual Legion talk:The generic Clone/Droid commanders are rapidly becoming staples of their factions. On the other hand, the Empire sometimes uses their generic officer; the Rebels rarely do.Is this just already the ideal scenario, thematically speaking? Rebels rely on HeroHammer, Empire uses Officers to augment their heros, and the Clone/Droid mass production units take the top billing for their factions? It kind of seems like it might be. Or, conversely, did the developers simply learn from the first generic commanders? In which case, how would you redesign/buff the Reb/Imp officers to match the power level of the clones/droids (while keeping with their factions' respective themes)?
>>77718453It'd actually be the opposite most likely. Phase 1s are the guys deployed already, far from the distribution centers so they just make due with the old stuff they already have at local depots and at the unit level. the NEW guys get the Phase II, because it's easier to issue it at a highly concentrated supply zone where all the fresh clones are going before moving to their assignment. It's easier to issue gear at Kamino than Felucia.
>>77718573Never played Legion, but that sounds like how I envision the respective armies playing out. The Rebels are huge underdogs, HeroHammer is the name of the game in an out and out battle. The Empire and the Clones feel like they'd use more or less the same military doctrines though, while Clones have always had that lynchpin element to their construction. Cut off the head and the body dies, whether it's the droid control ship or just the commander who knows what's actually happening.
>>77718573>the Rebels rarely do.id say rebels use generic a lot, since its the cheapest commander in the game and helps free up points for oplukei dont really see clone commander overtaking captain rex except as a point saver, thoughbut yes, i do agree that reb/imp officers are weaker than CW counterparts, mostly due to wave 1 syndromethey were made in a different playtest meta and were made under a smaller design spacerebs can keep "take cover 1" and imps can keep "spotter 1"but what they do lack is a contextually relevant keyword on the same level as "direct", which is better by default than either, and hilariously broken for the droidsinspire 1 just doesnt match up to either bolster or directrebs could get some kind of way to get free movement, like leias NTFS imps could impart temporary suppressive, since imps are currently the best at panic
>>77718630The Empire and the Clones are really different (thematically), you're underselling just how big the difference between a genetically identical force raised from birth to fight alongside themselves is, from a volunteer/conscription army of otherwise fundamentally normal people.
>>77717482I see what you did there, you clever fucker
>>77715733Jar Jar-class Star Destroyer.
>>77719680>The second Secutor out of the dry dock was the Binks, named after the interim Senator of Naboo once Padme died
>>77717825>helmets>optionalThat plastoid isn't yours to lose, trooper.
>>77717975why do you need to shill shoretroopers? They're clearly the best, only thing that comes close is post-buff snows, and only then really in a meta where Ion comes into play a lot
>>77717825>>77721046>WHERE IS YOUR ARMOR SHINY?!? DID YOU MAIL IT TO DOOKU?!
>>77721113because shoretroopers look cool
>>77721147They should make shoretroopers in flat white like regular troopers, instead of that dusty tan.
New thread when?
>>77721223nothing's stopping you from doing just that although ive tried painting all my troops blue and it can cause them to blend together so there is merit in using movie accurate colors
Bad Batch is just Delta Squad but less interesting.Thanks, Filoni.
>>77721428be honest, the only reasons you care about delta squad is because temuera morrison was voicing your player and you played it as a kiddelta squad is infinitely more boring than any other set of clones in the entire franchise, EU or Disney, Repcom is arguably the most overrated Star Wars video game of all time due to nostalgiagoggles from edgy 14 year olds who thought a tactical FPS in Star Wars was the hypest shit ever
>>77721428George Lucas created Bad Batch, not Filoni.And the reason was because they didn't want to infuriate EUtists by using Delta "wrong."
>>77721612>using Delta "wrong."Using Delta "right" seems like a pretty simple task. Some droids get shot, Scorch cracks a lame joke, Sev says something edgy, Boss yells and gesticulates while circle-strafe-knifing everything because he's out of ammo, and everyone forgets Fixer exists.
>>77721494Here's the (You) that you were fishing for.
What's the consensus on Omega Squad?
>>77721905I'm of the opinion that Traviss wrote okay stuff for the RC series and only began to go off the rails (which you can see her start to do in Triple Zero) when she got her hands on Mandalorians. Thus, Omega is good to me. Plus their concept is pretty interesting, a bunch of leftover commandos from destroyed units all forced to work together and learn to deal with someone who wasn't their pod-bro is pretty kino in my book.
>>77721750It always blows my mind that Scorch and Carth Onassi are played by the same voice actor