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Why do people crap on feminine characters? Why must everyone either be a complete beekcake or a bimbo witch. Also, post feminine characters
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Don't care how hard you try, people aren't gonna like traps/femboys
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>>77692930
Feminine characters are fine in a slice of life game.

In a game that's adventuring in dangerous dungeons and fighting monsters that will eat you and villains who will use your corpse for magical experiments... yeah, sorry, your anime-waifu or female-gender-identity fetish persona can fuck right off. Nobody wants to babysit the frail looking waif who looks more like a JRPG cosplayer more concenred about her rainbow hair and looking "cute" than a capable mercenary.
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>>77692930
>>77693372
i dont even care about gay people i just hate dudes that spam femboy "meme" porn
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>>77692930
Doing it wrong
>>77693124
Doing it right
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>>77692930
Bimbos are the most feminine characters.
Fucking idiot
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>>77693124
fpbp
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>>77692930
It takes a lot of effort to pull off being a huge fag, and there's pretty much only one character that's ever pulled it off in any media ever and lo, he's FPBP >>77693124
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>>77693124
What is it about angel-faced slender white-haired prettyboys? Why do they make the best sadists and sick fucks?
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>>77693372
Speak for yourself.
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>>77693443
Does Simon count or is he too manly even with corset over naked torso?
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>>77693372
Why?
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>>77692930

People often go to female characters and play them out not for the reason of wanting to actually play a female character. Instead, they end up playing more as caricatures of a female rather than a female. Often with a good deal of those females, her being a female is effectively only a coat of paint that, without it, can be equally interchangeable with a man. For example, the "Badass female".

I personally have no issues with a woman starring as the heroine, but if at the end I have to ask if she could just as easily have been a boy instead of a girl with minimal tweaks and the answer is "yes", I wouldn't say that she was a good character.

It's funny, because female characters that actually act feminine in those same circles often get met with jeers and flak; because in their minds, the only way a woman can act feminine is if they are submissive to a man. I find it ironic but that's beside the point.

One thing a woman can do that a man can never do is bring out who the man really is. In fairy tales, which almost always star a princess or a girl; she actively goes up to the frog and kisses it, turning it into a handsome prince. Or in Beauty and the Beast, she cried tears over Beast and turned him into a prince and broke the curse. What she can do is touch the man's heart, and make him into a force to be reckoned with- the man he was meant to be.

That's not to say a woman has to be submissive, no. She can be a leader that others flock around (Joan of Arc, etc) and become a force to be reckoned with. She can be ferocious and stand toe to toe against the worst monsters (Ripley from Alien, etc).

I guess the problem is that people keep on asking what a character is, and not who they are and why they do. Being a man or a woman can and should have a bearing on who they are, and possibly why they do what they do too. But people are too lazy when it comes to making engaging characters.

Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>77693641
Only good post in this thread. Cheers mate
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>>77693641
Ripley was literally a man in all the storyboarding and is the perfect example of a character that just as easily have been a boy instead of a girl with minimal tweaks.
Otherwise good post.
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>>77692930
FRESH LITTLE MEAT
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>>77693641
basically this. it's beta-trannies.

I'm not an extremely masculine dude but that doesn't make me any less of a man. Stop pretending to be a woman.
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>>77693739
Ripley is incredibly overhyped and propped up by nostalgiafags. She's well written in-terms of being a human being but people claiming her to be the peak way to write female characters are delusional.
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>>77693756
What.
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>>77693739

Ripley is a weird example it is true as you said, but I think in the storyboarding; Ripley could have easily been one sex or the other, and the actress chosen happened to have been perfect for the role. She still played Ripley as an engaging character though, but now it's hard to imagine Ripley as anybody other than a woman to me, even as she commandeered that power suit and fought toe to toe against the Alien queen. Just my opinion though, but I say it worked out great; storyboard's previous draft or no.
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>>77693641
>One thing a woman can do that a man can never do is bring out who the man really is.
Nah, not never.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is like the first common story and it's about a dude who won't stop raping until he gets challenged by another dude, at which point he realizes he shouldn't rape anyone anymore and is instead a good guy at heart.

But I agree about the badass woman shit. It's lame.
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>>77693124
fantastic example of it done right

otherworldly in appearance instead of coombait shit. feminine in his hair and vindictiveness, masculine in his ambitions, good balance of it all
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>>77693802
Anyone else gonna post images or is it just me?
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>>77693819
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>>77693827
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No one gives a shit outside /tg/(unless you make it obvious its fetishbait during the game), and why would you care what the assholes here think lol
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>>77693783
No clue what else to say.

Men who play female characters as men are just proto-trannies.
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There's a beauty to youthful young men that have the smooth looks of a woman.
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>>77693850
What
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I can see that. Compound interest is good at overdoing ideas several times over with little effort even though I personally wouldn't go so far as to say Ripley is a peak way to write a female character.

There's more than one way to skin a cat, and there is more than one kind of female out there. Just so long as if they act like people and not prop-ups, it's all good.
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>>77693739
In the second film she's a lot more feminine. You couldn't really swap her out for a guy and keep that maternal/supportive dynamic she has with the kid and the lead marine guy. In the first film, you're right though
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>>77692930
this is your feminine character
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>>77692930
Trannys fuck up everything they touch. For this they get hate. Tomboys and traps just get trapped in the crossfire.
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>>77693810

I do have to question your counter example because it wasn't a case of a woman changing him. It was a case of a man confronting a monster and defeating him will against will, soul against soul. Men in those stories are the ones battling the monsters and confronting dragons, while the woman often is the one who pushes the man to be the somebody who can do those things. It's been a while since I read the Epic of Gilgamesh, which also isn't a tale in the same vein as traditional fairy tales.

If I recall in the Epic of Gilgamesh, I think that the women in that story were more en lieu with temptresses (I think Enkidu was made to trade fluids with one at one point before meeting his demise after an encounter with a somber faced man bird). While the temptresses are another aspect of female characters that deserves its own threads and topics; I'm mostly keeping it to basic heroics for the sake of this thread.

But if anybody is more knowledgeable about the seductive side of females on an academic perspective and not one that necessarily is churned up by America's Next Top School Shooter or r9k, I'd love to read more about it.
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>>77693992
Would be interested too in that type of literature. I haven't really read much on hypoagency or female tyranny. Macbeth comes to mind as an example, but nothing after that. Possibly the book by varg's wife from a pagan perspective deals with the topic. Haven't read that though.
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I don't care what you jerk off to, are you going to introduce your real character or what, Steve?
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>>77693802
This picture makes me uncomfortable
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>>77693739
Sad but true.
This isn’t true with Samus though, right bros?
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Varg has led a most fascinating life. He began his career declaring, "This is Huh! Wow!", wound up in prison with murder charges and after setting fire to Norwegian churches. Continued playing music in prison with a synthesizer since he couldn't bring a guitar inside; made it out, moved to France, has kids inna woods, and made his own TTRPG that gets shilled here continuously.

That being said, I imagine there is a more academic study or two up on Jstor or some other website. It might be good to do some literature review on it; and hopefully find the few examples that aren't pozzed to all hell too.
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>>77692930
>Why do people crap on feminine characters?
They don't, you just wanted to shitpost.
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>>77693501
He becomes a handsome man.
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>>77694157
The goatee is ugly though.
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>>77694157
>>77694177
He needs a beard.
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>>77694187
We need less facial hair. Not more.
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>>77694177
>>77694187
He more than likely will
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>>77694138
I appreciate that one anon
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>>77694197
>piercings
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>>77694296
Finnish/polish black metal > scandi black metal. Cocteau twins > any metal music.
That being said, following the scandi metal scene is like irl fantasy stuff. Very amusing.
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>>77694457
>boobs
Yikes, traps are not trans...
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>>77694413
Well Immortal’s entire discography has given me inspiration over the years
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>>77694521
Knowing that artist those are most likely meant to be pecs
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>>77694521
Never heard the term natural I see.
>>77694457
Keep posting anon, you’re doing gods works
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>>77693945
>>77693956
he looks like he takes horse dick
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i like this thread
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>>77694626
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>went bold and made elves in my setting all feminine and they lack any sexual dimorphormism because I'm a pervert and I have a pile of female elf art but almost no male elf art
>Figure that elven language lacks a gendered distinction between people and language recognizes relation to another person/object (sibling, parent, lover/spouse, friend, pet, food, plant, environment) So for example saying "its cold" in elven, you would know the room is cold rather than the food on the table
>when using other languages, most elves gravitate towards feminine gendered words and pronouns. Other races, wanting to be polite always end up doing the same
>the literal only way to know if an elf is male or female is to pull up their skirt/dress and check or ask

>everyone in my group likes this and I feel like I'm just inserting fetishes

I also made dwarves mostly the opposite. They are all short bearded people who look rather masculine but the still use gendered language and once you know dwarf culture, it comes down to how a dwarf stylizes their beard.
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>>77694603
Hopefully
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>>77693405
You must get mad pussy, don't you?
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>>77694560
Scandicuck opinions are disregarded. Go prostrate before jamal.
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>>77694651
So either your players are also trapfags or they are as dense as they come. I wish i had either in my group
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>>77694636
seems a bit much there anon, kidding yourself.
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>>77694636
I want him to sit on my face and suffocate me with his balls. Imagine his cock lying on your forehead while you lick from his ass across his gooch to his ballsack
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>>77693516
Can't impregnate. The less evolved will never be able to get past it.
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>>77693956
cute
>>77693896
not exactly my style but still nice
>>77694457
bulge is allways welcomed
>>77694521
i know quite a few traps that have tiny boy boobs , most due to medical issues
>>77694651
nice

in my case, im deciding for a dhampir character
do i go the more standart pale boy (but red headed for a bit of flavour)
pic related
or go the exotic way and do brown boy with ligth hair (next pic)
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>>77694636
i need more drow boy images in my life
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>>77694659
>adventurers should be /fit/ and capable, not frail little femboys
>i-incel!
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>>77693863
he cute
>>77693925
this one was from full metal alchemist rigth?
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Its a shame our culture has become so focused on hypermasculinity and hyperfemininity. There's a whole range of gender expression between those two extremes that barely gets explored.
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>>77695349
>There's a whole range of gender expression between those two extremes that barely gets explored.
only in men, thre is a lot of variety, from the super manly hunks of a man, chubby masculine, lean masculine, twinks on a lot of variety, from the manlier twunklike guys, the standar ones, the androginous ones, the femy twinks, the twinkhons, then the femboys and traps and i skipped over a lot
in women you have 3 choices
standart bitch
butch bitch
tomboy
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>>77695349
Shut up fatty
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i couldnt give a single shit about genshit but this is really nice
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what about tall but femenine characters
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>>77695459
>dude womb tattoos everywhere!
It's shit
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>>77695408
Thats just because women are allergic to exercise. If they stopped all being overweight and worked out a bit they'd have enough definition and bulk to diversify

>>77695450
Twinkier than you fatty
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>hello, I am looking for cute young men
>oh, you mean a "femboy"? a sissy panty boy? a wimpy faggy lipstick wearer? thigh highs from amazon and a pair of his sisters panties? a poofta girlyman?
Fuck this, why is there such a lack of delineation between "cute guy" and what is fundamentally just the new wave of futa? I respected futa because they kept to their own fucking tag. I can't search anywhere for a twink with having to clear out with -panties -thigh_highs -big_fucking_girls_blouse.

OP has at least reminded me that it's probably good practice to at least use the abs tag.
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>>77695349
It's what sells.
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>>77695513
i preffer to take it as "posible spots for womb tattoo" than to think he has all of those
still, i never get tired of womb tattoos
if i had a little less shame (or an stable long term partner) id get one myself
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>>77695514
>Thats just because women are allergic to exercise. If they stopped all being overweight and worked out a bit they'd have enough definition and bulk to diversify
> implying women will ever do any shit that requires them to do any minimal effort
you have way too much hope on them
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>>77695516
>good practice to at least use the abs tag
Just like in real life
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>>77695575
i miss my abs, i should get back onto core excercise
it would be a bit harder to gain it now with the meds i take but it would look incredible
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>>77695574
Its not like what i think matters. You could graph "my life" and "anything involving women" as two paralell lines
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>>77695595
i want to get my ribs kicked by a guy with legs like that
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>>77695585
Do it! If having abs wasnt hard it wouldnt be worth doing!

>>77695624
Dont we all anon? Dont we all?
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>>77692930
>>77693945
>>77693956
>>77694457
>>77694636
See I got not problem with dudes that want to play or draw traps, pretty boys, or femboys. Whatever motors your boat and all that jazz, but this shit drives me up a fucking wall lol just draw a women and then put a penis on it. Men's bodies are shaped differently then women's, and these are just the worst offenders in this thread there are others that are borderline.
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>>77695739
Personally I'm more annoyed at the fixation on bulges when they really never look natural. They don't look big. They don't look like a boner. They don't even look good. And really, whenever they're drawn it's blatant magical realm, so if you're not gonna make it look good what the fuck are you doing?
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>>77695683
>Do it! If having abs wasnt hard it wouldnt be worth doing!
i still wonder if ill look good with both abs and boy titties due to hrt but it should be fine

>Dont we all anon? Dont we all?
yes, we all do
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>>77695739
Most trapfags are GAMPs and not actual fags, so they're pretty much attracted to female bodies + penis.
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>>77692930
there are differences between androgynous and pornographic designs
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>>77695804
The fuck is a gamp?
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>>77695804
True but I can respect a regular fag as long as they're cool. I don't like fetishists mostly from actually dealing with fetishists.
t. degen
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>>77693508
Isn't he dead?
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>>77695783
Aaaand you ruined it. But yes get abs
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>>77695855
I'm pretty sure being obnoxious is largely independent of orientation. I'm positive plenty of fetishists can keep it in their pants while plenty of fags can be annoying preachers about it.
But traps are a really bad dog whistle for bottom feeders currently.
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>>77693772
It is pretty good for the setting
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>>77695809
cute as fuck, kinda makes me want to play a cute nobleman
>>77695824
also really cute, maybe for a barman in a fancy bar on a modern / cyberpunk setting
>>77695872
they are AAA cups, pretty much non visible and almost flat, but still there and can be noticed to the touch, i didnt want them but they where a worth sacrifice for getting a girlier ass and bigger hips
im still a boy
but is understandable the turn off
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>>77693739
Retard, here os your (you)
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>>77695872
sorry for ruining it anon, but if i didnt did that, my cuteness would have died within a few years and i couldnt affort that
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>>77693641
Why Ripley is such an iconic character is she goes full mother instinct on the queen to save the little girl. A true force of nature. And this is the true strength of a womam. Not egotriping big dick energy but the quute resolution to do anything it takes to protect the ones she loves. To heal not to destroy. When the male hero would slay the dragon and make the world a bit emptier, the female hero would heal its heart.
To pull this off takes a lot of understanding of huma nature and most people that play RPGs are too young or too autistic to understand this.
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>>77693810
The encients were all homos though. We are discussing things in a moder Christian based world.
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>77695955
I can tell this is bait but it's worth pointing out the obvious.
The first panel and the last panel are rarely the same people.
People who do the last one usually have the stance of "why should it matter to you if I'm a pervert" (along with "people will call me a pervert if I do ANYTHING so might as well go all the way").
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>>77695955
1 and 3 aren't the same guy. But yes, OP is bait and/or an attention whore.
I'm still hopeful there might be some decent androgynous/feminine art ITT.
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>>77696035
Lie to me and yourself all you want. Not very convincing when you're seeking off topic gay porn on traditional games board.
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>>77696070
Non trash pics aren't that common. Certainly the "dedicated" threads are largely shitholes without any standards, and I'm not even talking about flat out porn, NSFW, or even risqué art.
OP might be a red flag and a shitpost magnet but it won't hurt me to keep this thread open.
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>>77695101
>>77695116
What is with gay men and armpits? Is it a fetis or something. Even my female friends that are in to yaoi have folders with "aesthetic" ribcages (in their words) in the same pose.
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>>77696150
Even straight male weebs love armpits. I don't get it, but it's fairly widespread.
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>>77696150
Arms raised with hands behind the head is both inherently submissive (farther from any practical use) and changes the silhouette to make the torso more of a V shape, something flattering on both sexes and across body builds. It pairs naturally with adjusting the hair, which is also feminine. The fact that it exposes armpits and makes ribs more salient just leads into people leaning into that.
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>>77696150
i dont like the armpit itself, but the balance and vision of the anatomy that kind of pose brings
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>>77696188
Although not a homo lust man myself, I agree it looks aesthetic. Too bad faggots nowdays fall into globohpmo retardation instead of bringing fine art and subtlety of the male soul into society as they used to.
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>>77695918
>>77695948
Its fine man, you do you. Im self aware enough not to give life advice on 4chan
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>>77696210
Fuck off, blogposting attention whores should be dragged into the street if they want to be seen so much.
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>>77696210
<3
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>>77696209
aesthetics are allways the most important
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>>77695101
>i know quite a few traps that have tiny boy boobs , most due to medical issues
The issue being that they are men, you idiotic degenerate.
>Ppff. For some reason these guys have small breats. It's a complete medical mystery.
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>>77696786
many "natural" traps areas androginous or femenine due to hormonal issues during youth, and those issues can give them tiny boobs
also, there is at least a hundred medicaments that can give breastgrowth as a side efect (but generally rare)
i know a few traps that where overweigth as kids and even trougth they slimmed down, they didntgot rid of the obesity gyno due to the natural conversion of exces cholesterol into estradiol (trougth a bunch of weird pathways)
also, many traps did meddle with exogenous estrogens during short periods of time (you know, pink pilling) and even after they stopped it stays
consumption of naturally antiandrogenic foods and naturally estrogenic foodscan also cause tiny breast growth (many traps tryed spearmint tea and onions shit)
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Okay but why? I like femboys as much as the next guy but it makes no sense for them to be feminine and adventurers as it would mean one will hinder the other. He either starts getting scars and muscles or just dies cause he wasn’t strong enough
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>>77697180
>trying to make waver manly
Even as an adult he looks like a L'Oreal commercial.
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>draw woman
>call it man
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>>77697180
femboys are meant for support roles to their big buff martial boyfriends
femboy bards, druids, clerics and wizards
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>druids, clerics and wizards
>support roles
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>>77693458
Dichotomy between looks and attitude, it subverts expectations and becomes interesting. Gap moe exists for a reason
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>>77697290
Whatever they are clerics and wizards aren't stereotypically muscular, in any case cardiofags would be OK adventuring what with all the long marches and fleeing from unfavourable encounters.
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>>77697290
>not using your spells to give your martial bf buffs sohe can show himselfoff instead of just being a dumb combat caster
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>>77697290
also
>thinking of wizards and clerics on modern RPG terms only
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>>77697322
That doesn't make them cheerleaders.
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>>77692930
Last time I checked, trap popularity is at an all time high, OP.
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>>77697384
>not wanting to put on a chearleader outfit to motivate your martials
you lack gayness
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I'm not sure if this is a grimlady or not but I feel it counts.
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>>77697418
And it just keeps getting higher!
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>>77697450
Not with that trash art it won't.
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>>77697418
>>77697450
and it will be greater every year, until women arent needed any more
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>>77692930
You don't care about the question, coomer.
I'll answer it anyway: femboys in reality are the most obnoxious parts of a female with none of the redeeming qualities.
Trust me man, I've been around them. They act like caricatures of thotty, airheaded women and its fucking disgusting. I'd rather fuck an actual man than those people.
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>>77697467
>femboys in reality
There's your problem.
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>>77693641
Yeah I can't say I can get into playing genuinely feminine characters because itd be cringy as hell. I do flip around and play women pretty frequently, but honestly its just cause I like lady knights.
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>>77697523
>char sheet
>no helmet design
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>>77697513
It doesnt help that the people obsessed with them tend to be equally obnoxious or that they tend to be porn-addicted cumbrains.
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>>77697554
This might be more to your taste, even if she's not wearing it
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>>77697599
I very much like femboys.
3DPD can't be femboys.
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>>77697641
>I very much like femboys.
I do, too. I still wouldnt allow you at my table if you pushed it or made it weird.
If it makes any difference, I probably wouldnt allow Red Sonja characters if they made it weird either.
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>>77697687
I'm too rigid for roleplaying, but I'd concur. Unless it was something where it'd be seamless, eg maybe a MAID homebrew. I can't think of many setting where it wouldn't slide riiight into OOC memes. The bad kind.
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Femboys are great, but ultimately they depress me. It's impossible to maintain past age 30, at which point the foundation for any romantic relationship they're in is rapidly eroded. People shouldn't be so obsessed with youth, in my opinion.
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>>77695864
Yoko didn't kiss him
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>>77697927
>the foundation for any romantic relationship they're in is rapidly eroded
Jesus Christ... being gay truly is a depressing life
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>>77697972
This shit is why I'm bi.
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>>77693458
I don't know but anime has taught me to instinctively mistrust anyone with white or platinum blonde hair because they're always villains.
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>>77698092
Nothing wrong with being a faggot. My best friend is one. But man... Date rape. Backstabbing. Ostracism if you stray out of the mold. VAIN AS A SIN. Shallow as a puddle. At 35 he is seriously thinking of going back in the closet and marring a woman. NO worse curse then being a decent person and gay.
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>>77698148
Oh no question, the community at large is dark as hell once you get past the veneer.
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>>77698169
Some years ago we were drinking. We got a bit tipsy. He tried to kiss me and I slapped him in the face as I had told him would happen if he tried something many years ago. (I am married and with kids, so even if I was bi it is a big no no). He broke down in tears. Not form the physical pain. So lonely he could not take it anymore and was contemplating suicide. Broke my heart to see him like this. Ironically he started attending church with me and is doing a lot better. But how is one to find real love when lust is the name of the game? Some tragic shit. Made me look at shit like pride in a whole different way.
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>>77697927
>It's impossible to maintain past age 30
bicalutamide my boy, the fountain of eternal femboyhood
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>>77693739
But most people praise Ripley's character in Aliens where much of the film has a subtext about a distraught mother robbed of her ability to connect with her daughter and finding a new surrogate daughter in Newt then punching out another distraught mother in the form of the Alien Queen because there can only be one. Admittedly, the relationship between Ripley and everyone else is a large part of what makes Aliens so good. So brings out the best in people, acts as a leader when it is in her capacity but cedes ground to the professionals when they no longer need her to carry them, and forged legitimate emotional connections that revealed and highlighted her unique femininity.
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>>77693372
so I see you are new, welcome to /tg/, you can pick up your complimentary homebrew mecha game and a copy of the bestselling "have you tried to not in to dnd bruh" from the bin on your left
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>>77693641
while I like your blog in general, I don't think there's anything wrong with having some characters that aren't defined by their gender. some stories don't get a lot out of that.

>>77693739
in the first one sure, but as a couple other anons said her gender becomes very thematically important in the second one. I actually like Alien better as a movie, but ripley is pretty one dimensional there. Aliens does a lot more with her as a character.
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>>77693772
I might argue it's the peak way to write a specific kind of female character.
It works because it dovetails a bunch of tropes that don't really stand up on their own to make something more interesting. exploiting the overlapping themes in the final girl from alien, the female badass from the beginning of aliens, and then the protective mama bear from the end of aliens is good writing no matter how you shake it.
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>>77697523
>tucks her hair in to her cape
seems uncomfortable
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>>77697927
also, you can fag out and go the HRT femboy, it wont be natural femboy any more, but will stay cute for longer
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>>77692930
>crap on
You gotta be 18+ to post here, sport.
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>>77698528
How else would she be able to flip her hood up?
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>>77698323
>complimentary homebrew mecha game
mecha setting but everyone is a femboy / twink
posibly with space nazi aestethics
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>>77698598
>>77698288
How far can this carry you, though? Can you hit 40 and still maintain the aesthetic?
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>>77695349
Thats true but in inverse.

Every "feminine" man is a fucking submissive pussy and every "masculine" woman is a roided out dyke.
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>>77698626
Where is your god now?
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>>77698738
>dyke
I dont think that word works in the way youre applying it
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>>77698702
bica, yes, you could get pretty close to 40, hrt femboy, maybe mid to late 40s
depending on your body and your luck, it would be more or a bit less
but none are perfect and there arent that many people with it
there are a few femboys out there on twitter that are already on their 30s with bica or hrt and still look amazing
but your mileage migth vary
think that is like the "not getting any manlier and aging slower after getting castrated" thing but without (physical) castrationand with a few benefits
still, time comes to everyone and those are just ways to get more time,
how much more time? an decent amout of time, and there are side efects that will make you not be a "true femboy"
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>>77696214
Yikes
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>>77697927
One gay guy I know was pretty bummed about how upfront sexual desire usually is in hook ups. Sexless autist that I am I'd assumed that the clarity would be welcome but apparently it's harder to meet someone you want to spend time with as well as fuck than for heteros.
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>>77697180
>that picture
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>>77693458
Lucifer was probably the origin of that archetype and the japs took a liking to it because they're Godless people.
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>>77698256
>real love
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>>77697927
>>77697972
>>77698148
Came to terms with being bi recently; started looking into the gay community because I'd like to explore that side of myself that I repressed for so long and HOLY SHIT its the worst. Its really depressing to have an entire new world open to you and then the shiny illusion shatter and having to shut that door.

I had grindr for a few hours; never again. Absolute hive of degeneracy; It was a nice ego boost but never again.

>>77698256 I really relate to this. Gay death is a really disgusting thing. I have a gay friend who's in the same situation as me with his opinion of the gay community; I'm hoping he doesn't end up in a similar situation. If I didn't want kids I'd seriously consider hitting on him.
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>>77693772
Alien she's just a person but Aliens is so overtly about her femininity and losing/reclaiming her sense of maternity that all subtlety was cast out the airlock by the time we got to the climactic battle that is quite literally "my mom can beat up your mom".
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>>77692930
You can also have normal characters, but blatant faggotry rightfully gets you ridiculed.
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>>77698256
I have a co worker in a similar situation. I feel bad for the guy but hes kind of a dick because of it.
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>>77698966
>apparently it's harder to meet someone you want to spend time with as well as fuck than for heteros.

Absolutely; all they want is sex. I want a cute guy to go hiking, play games and hang out with. But all I am is "daddy" for the night then out the door. Pre-plague it was very easy to get laid any time I wanted; anything more than that and you're shit out of luck.
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>>77694651
Dwarves are basically discworld dwarves then, though in discworld they did eventually have a movement where some female dwarves in human cities started wanting to use female pronouns and be visibly female eg. wearing dresses and whatnot. (of course, not shaving their glorious dwarven beards, for without one they'd hardly be a dwarf at all.)
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>>77699256
Sounds rough man. At least you'll always have Platonic friends to hang out with, said gay is actually one of the coolest guys I know.
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>>77699316
Yeah I'm lucky in that regard.
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>>77692930
I was about to give an argument, but I think you deserve just an ad hominem.

Ur a faget
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>>77692930
What the FUCK is wrong with those LIPS?!
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>>77698802
>the 40 year old HRT femboomer
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>>77699408
kinda looks like one of those where the artist shopped together a bunch of random crap and then traced over it
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>>77694659
You only get surgically operated nu-pussy,
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>>77699408
Why is it trying to ski down a mountain too? What the fuck is that pose?
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>>77699146
Best head I ever got was from guys. Just sayin.
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>>77699408
I suspect it was drawn by someone who has seen more porn than real humans.
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>>77699376
Ur a faguette*
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>>77693372
This fuck trannies.
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>>77692930
I'm gonna throw a sex-swapping girdle on every femboy I see.
No homo for you.
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>>77699660
Do they become extremely buff women or just girly girls?
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>>77699494
>implying any of those hons where ever femboys
if you are already ugly as shit it wont do jackshit
and if you start on your 40s like those boomerhoons it wont make you younger
also, i think only like 4 of those take hrt and are on hondose
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>>77699714
You can't miss, really.
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>>77699660
>giving the temperamental mind of a "femboy" the hormones of a biowom
That's only going to end with >her slicing off your dick in your sleep and feeding it to the dog with a giggle before tearfully apologizing and begging you to never leave
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>>77699660
As a trapfag myself, I would prefer that. I got into trap porn because it felt so much more possible than full on genderbending.
However, I don't play twinks or femboys, because I'm capable of keeping my fetishes out of my hobby.
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>>77697523

It's only "cringy" as you say if you do so awkwardly. Then again, it is easier to pull off a more feminine female in text than in person or over voice chat in my experience.
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>Why do people crap on feminine characters? Why must everyone either be a complete beekcake or a bimbo witch. Also, post feminine characters
Because Western society has been corporatized and follows market trends like they're religious events. Why else is "we need a dialogue" such a common thing for people to unironically say these days? We've taken the office home - in many cases, literally - and that means we start thinking like businessmen (I'm sorry, businessFOLK) in every aspect of society. Characters need to be designed to appeal to the broadest demographics possible, which means making your women more manly and your men more feminine. Everyone needs to be a blob, everyone needs to be ambiguously bisexual, everyone needs to be body-positive which ultimately translates into, "they've got a nice butt and ABS ABS ABS, but they're b-cups at best or Hollywood pretty." It's hilarious how Weebs were right all along, and the only place to get characters that are feminine or masculine come from the East.
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>>77692930
>why do people crap on my gay trap fetish character
You serious?
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>>77695349
>Its a shame our culture has become so focused on hypermasculinity and hyperfemininity.
Such as...? Last I checked media has been pushing soft, effete males and raging bulldykes with crew cuts or daddy issues hair for a long time now
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>>77698399

Right, but I still think their sex ought to have something to do with their character, even if they aren't defined by it. Nothing is more boring than a character whose persona is defined by their sex. They're so much more than that, but people do treat them differently for being one sex or the next, and the choices they make are influenced by that.

That being said, you're still right. Some games or stories don't need to delve into that territory, even though I still think that the characters in them ought to make a conscious effort to show that who they are today is affected in some way by their sex; just enough for me to say, "Yes, he is a man and not a woman; or yes, she is a woman and not a man." Etc.
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>>77700022
>Such as...?
The obsession with THICC and SHORTSTACKS might have something to do with it. They're two sides of the same coin; absurdly voluptuous and intensely heterosexual female caricatures that (in the case of THICC) are dominant mommy analogues or (in the case of shortstacks) very submissive sex objects.
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Why are gays always such degenerate pedos too? Half this thread is just little boys they want to rape.
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>>77700085
Because pedophilia and homosexuality run hand in hand and they refuse to admit it.
Its almost like deviant degeneracy leads to deviant degeneracy, who'da thunk?
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>>77700125
>>77700085
Honestly, I think pedagogy should be brought back. Stop with this absurd pussy-footing around the issue and just accept it. We've spent thirty years getting "tolerance" shoved down our throat, what's this bitter pill compared to all the others? Hollywood wouldn't have to hide behind the veil of Mossad and implied financial ruination anymore, and the Elites could be more open about their islands and boytoys too. Just accept it, bro. Just tolerate it. If it's not hurting you, it shouldn't be illegal.
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>>77700181
you should kill yourself
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>>77700181
This is bait so I'm not going to argue it, just know that you deserve to be slathered in milk, castrated and sailed down a bog so the insects eat you inside and out.
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>>77700046
>THICC SHORTSTACC
I don't see what fat fetishists have to do with feminity, nor do I see what a niche fetish has to do with what has mainstream media portrayal and approval. If anything, that shitty femboy hooters twitter meme had more traction than anything relating to goblin fuckers.
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>>77700241
>>77700250
It's like you guys have never heard of accelerationism before. Society's already collapsing into a hideous mongrel spawn of consumer culture and tattletale/"cancel" worship, why not see how far this rabbit hole can go?

Oh wait, because "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!" That's still the old standby for anyone trying to hawk bullshit to the populace. "THE CHILDREN MIGHT BE HARMED! THINK OF THEM!" Fuck that and fuck you for continuing to buy into the bullshit, the media machine uses children the same way your ex-wife uses custody rights; children are a bludgeon to keep you in line, to force you to accept their beliefs because otherwise "YOU HATE CHILDREN." It's a tactic old as time, fuckin' get over it.
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>>77700181
See as everyone who endorses pedagogy is the kind of person who deserves the rope for seemingly unrelated reasons, I think we should just give it the death penalty instead.
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>not playing a male elf
Boom, you get to be a cute femboy and nobody will blink twice at you. They'll just assume you dig Legolas or really like the elven accuracy feat.
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>>77700328
You are wrong and you should kill yourself.
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>>77700369
But male elves are the chaddest of chads
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>>77700328
>think of the children
Uh, duh? You're advocating child molestation, so I dont care what you have to say.
Perform shotgun self-lobotomy.
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>>77692930
>Why do people crap on feminine characters?
because anyone who lives in this society is implicitly misogynistic, next question
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>>77700328
>advocates child rape
>"Why do people hide behind 'think of the children'?"
Make grug think
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>>77693756
Dude Ive got a friend who looks androgynous. Like you would look at him and be confused. Peoples characteristics in terms of what is perceived to be masculine or feminine exists on a spectrum
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>>77700426
Lose some weight
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>>77700310
>I don't see what fat fetishists have to do with feminity
We're tabletop nerds talking about tabletop portrayals of femininity and masculinity, so ultimately the sources we should talk about are similarly-focused and (admittedly) niche. Of course femininity in modern Western society has become some abominable pastiche of male traits and surface-level female qualities (again, because we've become corporatized and instantly seek out qualities that the broadest demographics would enjoy, aka abs and ass) but femininity in tabletop is most commonly seen in your typical wide-hipped and fat-chested goblin/kobold, who crave the cock and will gladly get hammered down on your lap while saying how "good" that cock is. It's typical submissive bullshit, and it's no secret that the perception of kobolds/goblins have changed drastically ever since they were accepted as the token "submissive female" race.
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>>77700407
I'm playing a drow so me being a sissy is in character and expected.
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>>77692930

>>77693372
Tell that to /k/

>>77693641
Good call

>>77693739
You could try to pull off a papa bear with a dude going against the queen to protect the kid, but it wouldn`t be as good as a mama bear. Fighting another mama bear.

>>77695804
Crossing the streams I see.

Also, what is GAMP? I found only about an old term for an umbrella and Good Automated Manufacturing Practice.
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>>77700588
I'm gonna smack his nuts
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>>77700461
>>77700413
>>77700401
The child rape is already happening whether you like it or not, why can't we legalize and regulate pedagogy like they did with drugs and homosexuality and all the other "social issues" that people argued should be made more tolerated (not accepted, tolerated) so why should pedagogy be any different?

Again, it's because THINK OF THE CHILDREN is a social bludgeon used by politicians and media moguls to keep you in line, it's the last great rally for bipartisanship left in this failing empire. Children have never been under more surveillance than ever before, and their childhoods are suffering immensely for it, but children are STILL claimed to be on the cusp of getting raped and ravished and otherwise manipulated by shadowy Others and unless you "Vote for [X]" then you just want children to suffer.

See what I'm saying? Politicians don't give a fuck about children. The media doesn't give a fuck about children. They don't CARE because they're the ones abusing children, but they KNOW they only have to claim children are getting hurt or are "at risk" of getting hurt to pass draconian laws and regulations.
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>>77700637
Do a bungee jump with the rope around your neck
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>>77700637
there's nothing you can say. Just exit this world
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>>77700637
Hop in feet first
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>>77700663
>>77700707
>>77700772
If you really cared about children you would have ignored the media machine trying to get you outraged over “Cuties” and instead find disgust over Big Tech quietly extracting trillions of dollars of wealth from the coasts (literally your children’s birthright) to further fund their monstrous appetites for Profit and appeasing Mammon. Fear of society’s most vulnerable being abused or exploited has ALWAYS been used by the Elites to start witch hunts or keep the populace in line.
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>>77700503
>We're tabletop nerds talking about tabletop portrayals of femininity and masculinity
You're shifting the goalposts considerably anon. The original post said "our culture" not "tabletop specifically has become increasingly hyper-tradsexual", which would still be wrong given the popularity of all the femby bisexual dyehair creatures that make up Critical Role.
>femininity in tabletop is most commonly seen in your typical wide-hipped and fat-chested goblin/kobold
Again, wrong. Mainstream portrayals of females in traditional games are mostly stern faced and square jawed warriors that show very little skin. This is true from DnD to Pathfinder to MtG to VtM to 40K and most things in between.
>who crave the cock and will gladly get hammered down on your lap while saying how "good" that cock is
Again, you'll have to show me the receipts. Show me which RPGs have fat assed goblin girls craving cock. Hell, even the shitty meme images of a niche fetish you seem to be taking as representative of the entire scene typically have the goblin as crass, dominant, and dismissive so you're pretty fucking off base here.
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>>77700887
Oh, and forgot another of my favorites; if you cared about children you would be opposed to climate change - but instead of doing “your share,” you’d be telling corporations to do theirs. Carbon emissions in 2020 were only down 18% compared to 2019. 82% of carbon emissions came from industry and global shipping. Your children’s world is burning and you’ve been convinced it’s because of your neighbor or the Monster of the Week because it keeps you away from blaming the real source of society’s woes.
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>>77700588
You don't play games
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>>77700887
Dude. Its over. You have to kill yourself, stop trying.
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>>77700637
Rape and slavery are already happening too, may as well legalize those, alongside murder.
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>>77700957
>the liberal argues in favor of fucking kids
Every goddamned time
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>>77700964
I don't...
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>>77700887
But the media was DEFENDING cuties, Gaslight-kun
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>>77700957
Climate change is a nonargument until China and India are held accountable.
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>>77700971
>>77701019
Keep living in fear of whatever the talking head on your Twitter feed tells you to fear, drone.
>>77701004
Those three things are already quasi-legal? Slavery and murder are part and parcel for extraction capitalism, factory owners and corporate reptiles were gleefully doing both before the government regulated the practices - and even then, the military was regularly used by corporate interests to kill anyone who disagrees with them. You think we own the waves out of the kindness of our hearts, or keep military bases across the world to “protect” against some nebulous “Other” that hasn’t existed for decades?

And rape is just part of Hollywood and Neo-Nobility. People get away with it all the time.
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>>77701179
Do a high dive into an empty pool.
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>>77700328
>>77700637
>>77700887
Why is it is that most of the LGBT-Spectrum wants to fuck children anyway?
You faggots perform all these mental gymnastics to justify fucking children because you know that faggotery and pederasty are inseparable.
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>>77701179
this guy has been completely demoralized. I don't think it's human anymore even.
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>>77701239
He needs to be put out of our misery.
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>>77701105
China didn’t steal jobs from Americans. India didn’t whisk away blue-collar tech from the Midwest. Corporations did that, they made the conscious decision to move their work to China and India because they care more about profit than people. If China and India were held under harsher standards then the megacorps working their would either fight tooth and nail against it, or simply move somewhere else to continue polluting the globe. Africa, probably.
>>77701087
The media was defending Cuties because it kept the social eye focused on a non-issue, anon. Cuties was made by a Muslim immigrant who thought beauty pageants and Western sexualization of children is disgusting. It’s a shitty movie that got ogled because any attention away from the real suffering is good attention.
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>>77701271
Stop digging your hole deeper and put yourself in an actual hole
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>>77695854
Search gives "gynandromorphophilic", ie attracted to shemales/ladyboys.
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>>77701271
>China didn’t steal jobs from Americans. India didn’t whisk away blue-collar tech from the Midwest.
That's nice dear but I'm talking about the astronomical amount of pollutants they belch daily. Riding a bike and living in a tube is not going to offset China's raping of this planet nor should we be trying to accommodate those bugman pieces of shit.
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>>77701179
>Those three things are already quasi-legal?
Just like pederasty is legal if you're rich, so we may as well legalize it for everyone! Instead of, you know, holding richies accountable for their actions.

Man, its so weird how common it's become to see someone use commie talking points to DEFEND corps these days.
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>>77701403
Commies are useful idiots of the corps and the politicians whom are owned by the corps.
Its nothing new, but its still disgusting. Pedos deserve the cruelest punishment imaginable.
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>>77701361
his point is that all that pollution is only being generated to make the shit that you're buying from them. if you stop buying shit from them, they stop making more. there's no point in trying to "hold them accountable" on the ground. that's a fucking pipedream. you want to solve the problem, you get it at the source. apply sound environmental legislation at home, extend environmental accords for the international community, and tax the fuck out of imports from countries that don't comply. if all the politicians weren't on the payroll of people that directly profit from china and india polluting, this wouldn't even be a question.
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>>77695513
>>dude womb tattoos
I don't know what those are. Is it possible I'm still an innocent?
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>>77701461
And that's going to stop them from raping Africa of its natural resources and buying and using increasingly more automobiles how again? Are you implying China will just magically stop driving cars and stop colonizing and polluting Africa if I manage to get Sõysucker McGee to not buy the latest iphone?
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>>77701461
The guy also advocated for child rape, so I'm not going to take any of his other leftoid delusions seriously.
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>>77697972
It is. I'm in a similar boat to >>77699146 except I haven't even bothered trying dating apps as I know what awaits me.
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>>77701734
There's a good prayer that helped me through severe addictions to opioids and amphetamines. Try meditating on the Jesus prayer. It goes: "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner".
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Gay death is not a thing. Literally everyone ages. There's no immediate death of your looks & self. Everyone is different depending on genetics & how you take care of yourself.
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I came in expecting a discussion about how shitty the "strong female protagonist" trope is and how it's training our girls to be aggressive bitches.

But nope. When you say "feminine" you're not talking about females.

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done in 2. Sage this shit. salt the earth. Get you gay-ass out of here if you don't even know the proper terminology.
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>>77698113
Had a friend who said he mistrusted Mitt Romney because 90s cartoon villains always had that same grey streak at the temples.
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>>77701584
>Are you implying China will just magically stop driving cars and stop colonizing and polluting Africa if I manage to get Sõysucker McGee to not buy the latest iphone?
Ahaha, now you realize why everyone thinks we're utterly fucked. Even if the West somehow became aware of Corporate tricks and fought to increase tariffs and impose more stringent environmental regulations, the East will still be buying up those Corporate products. You wanted Capitalism? Because this is End-Stage Capitalism.
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Tall and delicate x short and stronk is the patrician pairing.
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>>77702260
It's actually globohomoism, which is a mixed of corporatist oligarchs and their communist lapdogs that enforce pointless "social justice" pogroms like critical race theory to keep people divided. But hey, you already know this as you're busy blaming the blue collar grunts for the crimes of your oligarchs bishops.
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>>77692930
I have no problem with feminine characters.
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>>77702503
>busy blaming the blue collar grunts for the crimes of your oligarchs
This is probably the part of the progressive """"""""""left"""""""""" that frustrates me the most. It's also their biggest obstacle from getting anything done. If the intelligentsia fails to connect with and mobilize the worker, you're not going to have a revolution. It's pretty obvious what the richfags are doing.
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>>77702503
>It's actually globohomoism, which is a mixed of corporatist oligarchs and their communist lapdogs that enforce pointless "social justice" pogroms like critical race theory to keep people divided.
Yes, which is what happens when you don't regularly beat your corporations. Every corporation is some shade of Evil, they'd sell you into slavery if they could get away with it. What we're seeing now is nothing new, we saw it in the 1900s with Pinkertons (Private armies), the shiftless hedonism of the Gilded Age and the military being used as an extension of Corporate interests (See: Battle of Blair Mountain.) What is the cure? Socialism. The New Deal and Teddy's trust busting were intensely socialist, and were so antithetical to Corporate interests that CEOs plotted to oust FDR because his policies were against their bottom line (Business Plot aka White House Putsch.)

It's no surprise that the greatest generations (or at least, the ones we love to shill) were born under Socialism. The people of the 1930s to 1950s were living under a strong government that kept fierce control over the private sector. Amusingly, it's also the period when the common man had the most optimism for the future - because the future didn't come with a dollar tag.
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>>77702642
Being female doesn't equal feminine. These are tomboys with more masculine features & clothing.
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>>77702696
>he doesnt like feminine warriors
Cringe
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>>77699940
Touch grass, weebshitter
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>>77702696
>These are tomboys with more masculine features & clothing.
Tomboys don't exist in Western society, it's just proto-trans now.
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>>77702634
>which is what happens when you don't regularly beat your corporations.
And the only thing that motivates people to bleed corporations is nationalism. Good thing the left has actively targeted all sentiments of nationalism for the past 70+ years to foster the growth of communism but instead just paved the way for globohomo corporations by creating generations of disaffected toilers that have no sense of civic pride and thus no reason to grow outraged at corps selling their hearth and home and very future out from under them. What good little lapdogs you've been~
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>>77702799
Go away, globohomo.

>>77702731
This one's a little more feminine but still has that tomboy look.

>>77702751
This one's even more masculine. You really don't know what femininity is.
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>>77702979
That's rough, buddy.
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>>77703001
See now this one's feminine. You finally got something.
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>>77702827
>Good thing the left has actively targeted all sentiments of nationalism for the past 70+ years to foster the growth of communism but instead just paved the way for globohomo corporations by creating generations of disaffected toilers that have no sense of civic pride and thus no reason to grow outraged at corps selling their hearth and home and very future out from under them.
The Left and the Right are two sides of the same coin, and that silver shekel's being fingered by a fat cat. This isn't a problem of Left vs. Right, it's a fight over Rich vs. Poor. Classic Marxist thought. Again, things were fuckin' great when we were bleeding corporations dry and taxing the wealthy at +30% rates, and that was under an intensely leftist government (FDR was an archetypal Democrat, and even Eisenhower and the "Wartime" Presidents were way more leftist than our modern equivalents.)

You want to protect against Communism? Give the people socialism - which, as you said, requires some amount of nationalism to keep working. The only time Communism was ever a global threat anyway was during Lenin's time, since Leninist Communism was the classic "workers of the world, unite" global revolution bullshit, while Stalinist Communism was an isolationist dictatorship with red food coloring. The USSR was never interested in spreading Communism beyond her borders - at least, not without a big ole hammer-and-sickle flag attached. Domino Theory was there to sell American adventures around the world to remind people who's the biggest dick on the block.
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>>77700637
incredibly based
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dangerously hyper based
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>>77703066
>The Left and the Right are two sides of the same coin
And the left is doing considerably more damage since it's proactive instead of reactive. You gotta kill all the leftist mook mobs before you can take on the rightoid swamp beasts and ultimately the corps they serve.
>Give the people socialism
Unfortunately socialism requires a high trust society and only small, homogenous societies are high trust enough to not abuse socialism and create a governmentally dependent underclass that can be easily manipulated with the promise of free gibs.
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>>77703183
>whiny nihilism
>based
Lol nah
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>>77693458
Gonna catch some flak for this, but it’s because they’re über-white. White hair, skin, eyes.

I’m not white. Dealing with antagonistic white people involved getting outmaneuvered (you guys are pretty smart, I admit, but you’re wishy-washy and never directly confront. You use institutions like manners as shields and your brains as weapons). Also you have this explicable sadism.

You see an idealized antagonistic white person dialed up to 11 with these characters
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>>77697180
From left to right on bottom would, would, wouldn't, wouldn't, super fucking would.
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>>77703317
>manners are evil
Lmao you guys really are just apes
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>>77701205
>Why is it is that most of the LGBT-Spectrum wants to fuck children anyway?
Its how they reproduce
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>>77693508
Doesn't count, maximum manliness
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>>77703429
>simps for a literally soulless thot
>manly
Lmao
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>>77703398
Nailed it.
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Just like they nail kids lmao
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>>77692930
He cute
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>>77701569
its stupid fetish bullshit.
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Patrician taste.
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They're alright.
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>>77693956
What are these from? the character looks familiar.
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>>77706011
Nothing. Artists OC.
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>>77701906
is this how a female elf looks?
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>>77706489
>female
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>>77692930
Men are superior to women in every way, up to and including being feminine. That doesn't make it acceptable however.
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>>77693458
That dude did nothing wrong



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