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>TQbeing able to complain about 40k
left or right?
>>76941219>HQThe novels and books.
>>76941268Right.Left looks too much like a black person.
>>76941219>TQI like the models.
>>76941219>TQThe high quality value for money plastic miniatures.
Just finished Magos, it was ok.Who do you anons think the King in Yellow is?Lorgar? Ahriman? Rorke? Some literally who?
>>76941219>What's something you like about Warhammer 40,000The setting, so varied and "full"
>Fell into a slump last year>Let my room get out of control>Finally better, cleaning my room up>Find some CSM Terminators I started working on and then put away>Two of them have broken off tusks that i can't findWell, shit.
>>76941219TQ: Chaos, Ork and Eldar Aesthetic
>>76941334it's battle damage now
>>76941282>>76941298this is annoying because I can agree that the left looks better, but I still like the right better.Also I might've fucked the compariosn because the one on the left is a much better sculpt
>>76941334Doesn't the kit have spare helmets?
>>76941369Yeah it does, but I've got no clue where I put the sprues, and the heads are already glued in.>>76941352I could try to make it look damaged, or could maybe try to greenstuff like some tubing.
>>76941268Left has better colors and more contrast.
>>76941413which is weird because I didn't highlight the skin on the left, but I did on the right.
>>76941355Skin and hair on the right is nice but there's no color contrast. Hair aside the whole thing is the same shade of purple.
>the lengths some people go to in order to use overpriced citadel paint
>>76941444Guy probably just did it for le ebic updoots. Still fucking sad though, just don't be a fucking Parkinson's patient or transfer it to a dropper bottle if you absolutely need to avoid spilling.
>>76941474Imagine having a sense of superiority over not accidentally tipping a pot of paint.
>>76941268Right, but change the color of the corset.
>>76941439Probably just the lighting.
>>76941474how do you even transfer GW paints to dropper bottles? most of the time the paint is so viscous that there's no way to get it out of the pot without using something to wash it down the funnel
>>76941355My opinion is entirely based on the color. There is not enough color difference between the skin and the corset on the right model.
>>76941444aren't the washes like the 1 thing from GW people say are good?
>>76941444I would bet that the majority of people who use citadel paints use them cause they are accessible locally. Buying paint online sucks cause of shipping cost, and most people dont wanna buy bulk.
>>76941550Most GW stuff is good. Its just overpriced as hell.
>>76941548the paint would still stick to the sides, seems like you'd still lose a lot
Is 40k the only setting where the faction that wants to preemptively genocide and torture the souls of all other lifeforms, maybe even destroying the universe, is 100% unambiguously justified?
>>76941570pretty much, they're the only ones I can get locally and shipping costs as much as the paints if I just need 1 or 2
>>76941601I used a paint thinner.
>>76941570So if you see someone with citadel paints you're looking at a man with no long term planning
When making marines do you guys keep them all with helmets? Or do you give them exposed heads?
>>76941613>genociding all other lifeformsyikes>genociding all lifeforms, including your own speciesthere we go
>>76941613>If it meant the destruction of your species [Eldar], I would rather see humanity lost to the warp then suffer your kin in paradise.Yes.
>>76941550All of GW's paints are good, just overpriced for what they are. Even that gap is getting smaller though, most hobby paints are still pretty expensive for anything good, GW just more so.
>>76941658my daemon prince and obliterators are the only models in my army with exposed faces
>>76941621Thats how it is for me. My local store only had citadel and I liked to buy from him. Now I have 80 of them. Citadel paints are nice paints I just hate their pots.
>>76941520>>76941541What would you suggest for the corset? I don't want to do black. Could another coat of wash on the corset to darken it up be enough?
>>76941685Vallejo is less than half the price my man, not sure what you're talking about in terms of a small gap.
>>76941613>I-I'm sure this isn't yet another disastrous Mer mess just like all the previous similar attempts!
Are terminators good in 9e? I want to do a CSM list with 10 of the big boys.
>>76941721The corset on the left looks nice to me. What is it that you prefer about the right model to the left?
>>76941668They want to wipe out ALL nonhumans, that means even shit we need to survive like crops and certain bacteria. The only reason why they don't is because this shit is necessary for Crusading. Like the first thing the Imperium would do if they won and took over the universe was wipe out the impure humans (99.9999% of humanity) and then move onto everything else until the universe was a cold, desolate place without any life.
>>76941767Yes, and they will be better once they gain another wound.
>>76941705I might make them on a squad by squad basis. Maybe each sergeant is more or less of a stickler for armor.
>>76941744I killed every single elf I came across in Skyrim. Didn't matter who they were or what they believed in, they died.
>>76941801Yes, Vallejo is excellent.
>>76941794Sick, are mixed loadouts fine or do they want to go all-in on one?
>>76941821>not raping themUnethical
>>76941781Basically I painted a bunch of Slaanesh Daemons in the left color scheme a while back. I was never 100% satisfied with the color scheme, and over time I've gotten less and less satisfied with it. I don't like grey as the base color for Slaanesh. And black for the clothes feels too dull too.
>>76941848I have no idea because they just changed all of their point costs so I don't know the new best loadout.
>>76941889Fair enough, guess I'll want to magnetize stuff then. Thanks anyway anon!
Imagine> Being able to bring to the table any unit you want from a faction given the circumstance of the battle>Need mobility to outmanouver the opponent? Can bring a flyer>Need melee support to help your shooty boys not get wrecked by a dangerously close enemy? Can bring bring a brawler>Need a unit to slow down your opponent? Bring cheap unit>Need a big unit to whack an equally big opponent? Bring an expensive unitImagine>Being able to respond to any threat or situation>Being able to keep the opponent on his toes and reinforcing any position a character occupies (maybe an objective?)>Being able to do some serious flanking maneuvers out of nowhereCan someone remind me why people think daemonic ritual is bad for any chaos space marine chapter? I'd like to know.
>>76941613The Newcrons are the most justified in their plans though.
Night Lords are a lot more fun to paint than I expected, middle dude was a couple days ago
>>76941945I don't think there's a single marine faction as incompetent as the Italian military. Shit, Abaddon and his legion might be better
>>76941953thin your'are paints
Can I put a request for the PA Engine War here for some kind anon (post it in the proper place of course).AlsoFUCK the asshole who requested the fucking Space Marine Codex fucking a dozen times.
Got a task for you /40kg/:Come up with your army's own version of doctrines/command protocols.
>>76941949becasue demons have like 3 units per god and they don't have specializations. One of them is the good one. There's no flexibility, movement restrictions and it's random when you can just take a demon detachment and deepstrike them in
>>76941355I think the problem with the right is that the hair colour is too saturated. Painting the body armour another colour like black might help too.
>>76941219I like the models, I enjoy lore and listening to the audio books at work. 2-5 man intercessor squads I'm working on.
>>76941949>deamons are kind of shit>cant move character>have to roll good to get a useful unit
>>76942011let's not give GW any stupid ideas
>>76941949Weak bait anon.You get a (you) from me out of boredom.
>>76941219Why do IG players compare platoons with the brigade detachment?
>>76941492Considering how big of an issue it seems to be for some people, sure why not.
>>76942045>Thinking we can out stupid gw.Now now anon.
>>76941613Weirdly, all factions are justied.
>>76941949>>Need mobility to outmanouver the opponent?>Summon demonettes>>Need melee support to help your shooty boys not get wrecked by a dangerously close enemy? >Summon demonettes>>Need a unit to slow down your opponent?>Summon demonettes>>Need a big unit to whack an equally big opponent? >Summon demonettes>even better if you have them from the begining
>>76941268Both, and paint every single other one in the unit with their own unique colours too.Why people always paint daemons in a uniform colour scheme I will never understand.
>>76941953Good colors. Start using a wet palette, thin your paints (dont have a big fat glob of paint on your brush). You should use a nuln oil wash for depth and shadowing.
>>76942011>TyrannoformationA set of semi random environmental effects (you roll 1d6 and can modify the roll by +1 or -1) like spore mines bombardment, terrain getting hostile, shrouding gasses etc
>>76942066gotta say the necron one really impresed me. I've never seen anything that convoluted before. I thought they were trying to streamline the game
>>76941949You've clearly never used daemonic ritual.
>>76942018Some CSMs like DG require an exclusive DG starting army in order to utilize their abilities.>>76942040>Can't move characterIn a later turn this is extremely unimportant>have to roll good to get a useful unitIf you're using the ritual for the purpose of utility instead of blind brute power you don't need to roll good at all to get a useful unit.
>>76942011I'm not the creative type but Ork doctrines could be fun depending on how they are done. Gotta have that "bat shit off the wall" aspect of orks in it though.
>>76941953They look like they could do with a wash, and maybe a thinner coat. With the lighting it's hard to tell but something's off with them. You're definitely learning though, which is good.
>>76941984You know, I wish 40k wasn't such serious business and we got some incompetent forces that were given a spot light and not just "and then tyranids ate their home world"
>>76942105They basically force you to use cards
>>76941733Vallejo is like $1 cheaper a pot from what I've seen. I'll save like 5-10 bucks a year using 3rd party paints exclusively. Wooo
>>76941882Black for the corset probably feels dull cause you have greyish skin. Try it out on the pink skin and see if you like it?
>>76942105I want more shit like Necron protocols and DG contagions. 8th was too bland before Psychic Awakening, and I'm glad GW is hitting their stride more on the rules going into 9th.
>>76942018The big issue is that for some reason, daemons have to be organic and can't be cyborgs with serious shooting. It results in 3 of the 4 goes just being "run at your opponent"
>>76942107>Some CSMs like DG require an exclusive DG starting army in order to utilize their abilities.All of them will eventually.
>>76942105>>76942140Most of the complexity is nullified by the fact you are basically going to take the same protocols every match in the same order.
>>76941953Looking good, but you should probably thin your paints a bit more, and maybe go over the metals with a wash or contrast paints to dull them down a bit. They're a bit too bright and shiny for Night Lords.
>>76941315>King>YellowMust be Khan
>>76942170I do want more rules like contagions and doctrines. What I don't want is a set of 6 rules you have to select the order for during the game that have two rules each of which you can activate 1 but only if you are within range of a character or two if it's for your specific dynasty but are all completely situational and can only really be used properly if you can predict the future
>>76942176>daemons have to be organic and can't be cyborgs with serious shooting>what are demon engines
>>76941653doesn't that ruin the paint after a while?idk I'm a retard
>>76941801Yeah, Model Colour is good shit
>>76942096I agree but you should skill keep them near the same color. It would look off if some were purple and others yellow.
>>76941474i had a major spaz last night, knocked over my paint water, then after cleaning all that up i knocked over my coffee. i was too heartbroken to continue painting after that.
>>76942230>what are daemon enginesNot part of the daemon codex.
>>76941613>Is 40k the only setting where the faction that wants to preemptively genocide all lifeforms, maybe even destroying the universe, is 100% unambiguously justified?Fixed that for you and yes.
>>76942144The pots are also 50% bigger volume but I guess if you only go through a couple paints a year like you say then who cares
>>76942273which just adds to the reasons why summoning with CSM is pointless
Huge question:I want to start painting my silent king, but I want to use a red colour scheme to fit my army a lot more. What colours should I switch out the greens for? The rest of the colours are fine, already was brassy.
>>76942011Harlequins choose a certain play to perform that grants a different bonus depending on the turn. Each have a 'Final Act' super effect that hits turn 4/5.Craftworlds have something similar where they choose to embody a different aspect of Khaine with different effects (force them to use Aspect Warriors besides just shining spears)Tau get alternating Montka and Kauyon effects (like their lore kauyon blends into a Montka and Vis versa). 'Masters' of Mont ka or Kauyon can keep the effect two turns in a row (Shadowsun/Farsight).Guardfags get something like protocols, but its themed like "armored column advances, infantry push, send in the next wave, artillery barrage" just the bonuses target specific unit types when active and nothing else (artillery barrage one gives a huge bonus but only for artillery, infantry advance gives your squads a lot of speed, etc). They can never be changed once set (Guard is too flexible, too many gears in motion).Admech is fine.Dark Eldar are fine.Grey Knights Tide mechanic is fine.Custodes... not really sure. Chaos gets the old warp storm table back, just its less either crippling or useless, and more 'units with Mark of X get big benefits this turn.' The Warlord can once per game force it to be his Gods turn (even if its already happened).Tyranids get Synaptic Imparatives that depend on the board state at the time. Enemy has more objectives than you? You can choose a Synaptics Imparative that speeds you up, or makes your dudes count as 3 models for OBJ secured. Have a lot of units engaged? Choose the Synaptic imperative to make your units fight better or have more attacks.SoB are fine with the Rites.
Once again I am asking GW to bring back Guard platoons and command squads with the officers included, both as single units respectively.
>>76942324>I want to start painting my silent king, but I want to use a red colour scheme>What colours should I switch out the greens for?Red?
>>76942320Exactly. That's my point. I don't understand why codex daemons, the daemon faction cannot have more cybernetic daemons like the soul grinder. I'm agree that daemons are too limited. Just to be clear I'm not >>76941949
>>76941268dry brush some more color on her skin for the left one and your golden
>>76942324A very light blue, or purple
>>76942353Yeah ok, I meant specifically what paints to get to get a similar effect cause I am a retard when it comes to the whole process of layering different colours onto each other.
>if a flesh tearers character model is your warlord, you can use the table to the right to determine what warlord trait they have instead>you canDoes this mean flesh tearers have access to both warlord trait tables?
Imagine if GW updated Catachans and did Traitor Guard at the same time, and the Traitor Guard was using the existing Guard Range including the new Catachan sculpts but with an upgrade sprue, and they did a battle box that was Traitor Guard vs Catachans but since both sides could use all the kits(minues the Traitor Guard upgrade sprue for Catachans of course) it was a great way to start either of those armies
>>76942357demon engines are made by mortals, they don't really fit the demon army theme desuDemons and CSM should be defferent fations to begin with. There should be one codex per chaos god
>>76942345I don't think this would be a particularly popular idea, but I think out of all the armies, guard would probably benefit most from a unique power/point scheme based on defined organizations rather than the awfully biased price: plastic ratioit's so fucking frustrating that we have to pay so much money to play imperial guard compared to custodes niggas for example.
>>76941953Your choice of colors is very retro and I like it a lot but you need to work on painting within the details as to make it less sloppy and I feel like you'd benefit from a darker blue. when I did NL I also went blue/gold but I ended up liking blue/bronze to further separate it from thousand sons and ultramarines
>>76942345i just want all the malcador variants, but they expensive
>>76942401Imagine if GW cared about IG at all
>>76942387It doesn't say you can use the BA one.You can use the FT one or the normal marine codex list or the generic ones. Not the BA one
>>76942404>Demons and CSM should be defferent fations to begin with. There should be one codex per chaos godAgreed, but/especially because>demon engines are made by mortals, they don't really fit the demon army theme desuMost of the time when Daemons show up in the fluff, it was because they were summoned. They're being unleashed by a sorcerer or something. So Daemons alongside CSM or being led by a Sorcerer is fluffier than just Daemons by themself
>>76942387You may choose between either one, yes. For example, Ultramarines successors have an equivalency for this as well, if I am not mistaken.
>>76942404>demon engines are made by mortals, they don't really fit the demon army themeYes I know, that's why I keep saying cyborg daemons... Like the soul grinder.
anyone have IA 11 volume 2?
>>76942436that unfortunately makes sense
>>76942440>So Daemons alongside CSM or being led by a Sorcerer is fluffier than just Daemons by themselfThe problem comes from GW being unable to decide if 40k is a skirmish game focusing on a specific part of a larger battle, or if its supposed to represent the their forces.
>>76941792I was alluding to the Purge, sir
From a lore standpoint, who would win - a Gal Vorbak or a Greater Possessed?
>>76942404>demon engines are made by mortals, they don't really fit the demon army theme desuDaemons codex explicitly mentions Khorne daemon legions using Lords of Skulls and Soul Grinders
>>76941315Who is in it? Any interesteing characters?
>>76942506Fuck off to hhg with that shit
>>76942525Fuck yourself if you don't have anything to contribute, tranny.
>>76941945>dat oven mittErra tiem
>>76941857Need I remind you that the fantasy counterpart culture to the Imperium, the Skaven, tried to wipe out all life (themselves included) by crashing the moon into their planet?
I've got a spare slot for a Destroyer army to fill: Do I get an overlord to get command protocols or do I get one of the crypteks? If the later, which ones?
>>76942545> trannys always on the mindAnon ever think you might be a faggot
>>76942554>the fantasy counterpart culture to the Imperium, the Skaven
>>76942565That cryptek that hands out 5+ Inv. And reroll charges
I bet it would've been so comfy in the 90's to come to the GW after that weeks classes with the lads, sit down, buy a couple boxes of minis and spend that friday night hobbying, then play a game over the weekend.Any oldfag britbongs here to confirm?
>>76942554The imperium aren't skaven. The hrud are the 40k equivalent of the skaven
>>76942545>tries to sabotage the thread because one person told him to fuck offI was gonna be on your side but you had to fuck it up
>>76942404EC this year and WE in 2022.
>>76942597>The hrud are the 40k equivalent of the skavenAre you dumbThey act nothing like skavenhttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud#Society
>>76942565Technomancer with cloak and phylactrine hive (Allows you to use Rites on Destroyer and canoptek units) would be good.
>tfw dont own anyhting to wash my custard tacs inreeee i hate resin!!!
Dark grey armour with gun metal accents and red weapons. What do I do for robes on my dudes? Painting some Indomitus marines. Light grey?
>>76942506I thought there weren't any Gal Vorbak anymore
>>76942521Then how come the Lord of Skulls isn't in the Daemons Codex?
>>76942565Note that if you take a lord or overlord they will have to be the warlord
>>76942661nigger i meant like a container. i have dish soap. i only own one set of silverware and a small bowl. i just went a picked out a soup can from the trash. washing it out now so i can use it to clean models
>>76942682There's no point since you need to take it in a separate detachment anyway
>>76942703Why do you need a container? Soap up your hands and get scrubbing. Rinse in the sink.
>>76942667>They tend to be fiercely tribal and are expert scavengers of technology to the point that they can easily assemble from a mongrel collection of weapons and devices with the resources they have at their disposal. Ancestry and family-ties are two elements that are considered all-important in Hrud society which defies the "filthy scavenger" image that Imperial scholars view the xenos species. yeah sounds just like skavenI'm gonna pretend that you aren't one of the people so fucking dumb as to think "creature with a long rifle = SKAVEN IN SPACE!!!!!"
>>76942625Originally (I think at the time of Rogue Trader) Hrud were basically space Skaven, but they then got elaborated into something different.
>>76942703Plastic ice cream tubs with lids do well for general hobby use. The 1.5-2l size. If you don't have a freezer just eat it for dinner.
>>76942619With all the great new slaanesh sculpts aos is getting, Im gonna be pretty disappointed if EC gets no love this year
>>76942732So... the Hrud are not the 40k equivalent of skaven.
>>76942594Early 2000s here and it was a time before tourneyfaggotry and that mindset took over. Good narrative campaigns, no herohammer, good rules, good fun.
>>76942724i would but the pieces im washing can fit into the drain and i don't want to even come close to risking $30 upgrade kit pieces
>>76942703How do you live like that anon? Do you just eat canned food and wash your bowl and silverware afterwards?
>>76942709It's good to have all the rules in one book
>>76942748They’re gonna look good whenever they do happen. The mortal release for AoS gives me the big faith.
>>76942011>NecronsWell I already got mine, so I guess I'll do it for someone who needs the help: Tau.I'm imagining these working sort of like Tactical to Shock doctrine, where you can activate the next doctrine early or stall the current one out.They only work if there's an Ethereal on the board, unless you're FSE, in which case they only work if there's a Commander on the board. FSE can take multiple Commanders per detachment.>Kauyon: Round 1-2, Round 5If a <Sept> unit has not moved for any reason while Kauyon is active, that unit can re-roll hit rolls so long as it has direct line of sight to its target.>Mont'ka: Round 2-4<Sept> units that made a Normal Move can shoot as though they did not move this turn. Rapid Fire weapons can be shot as though they are Assault weapons.>Rinyon: Round 3-5<Sept> units gain ObSec. If they already have ObSec or a similar ability, they count twice.Non-<Sept> units (Kroot, Vespids) may Advance and Charge in the same turn, and get +1A if they charge, are charged, or perform a Heroic Intervention.The goals of these changes are:>Kauyon lets a Tau army stack up Markerlights quickly and do the castle-gunline thing. However the enemy can play around it by using Obscuring terrain, and Kauyon doesn't let you re-roll smart missile systems and other indirect fire unless you have LOS.>Mont'ka lets that gunline push down the board without severely compromising their firepower. Hopefully this encourages Tau to get close to midfield objectives.>Rinyon means that Tau and auxiliary forces want to work together to flip objectives. Fire Warriors counting for 2x ObSec means you want them on those points, and being able to Advance + Charge and get Shock Assault should encourage Kroot and Vespid players to rush onto the point as well.>On Round 5, the Tau player can loop back to Kauyon once they're in control of the midfield, and try to shoot the enemy off of the rest of the points.
>>76942748I just hope that of they do make EC their own faction, they don't completely fuck it up.
>>76942703Anon, if you have money for warhammers you have money for a second bowl. Take care of yourself, live like a person for whom a social life is still a possibility. That's the first step to making it true
>>76942772I hear ya. I washed my EC bits in a little tub. Too few guns in there as it is.
>>76942573As a straight white male why would I want to be one?Anon its 2021 if you want to suck dick just go do it no one cares
>>76942756Ah, are you referring to the paragraph at the end that says the only real similarities are that they have rat tails and use rifles (also, people seem to fucking forget that only one unit in one skaven subfaction uses jezzails, whereas fusils are the main weapon of the hrud)?
>>76942748The models will be great, but this game needs to have daemons and mortals in the same armies and have rules that effect everything.
>>76942703What kind of pathetic ghetto poor faggot are you.
>>76942565If you don't have command protocols, get something to get it.
>>76942578>>76942597>13 is holy number>extremely xenophobic; will slice their own throats to inconvenience xenos>worship a single racial chaos god>never take baths>both work their slaves 20 hours out of every 24>most of the population are slaves>most live in absolute poverty, except the nobility that live incredibly lavishly>believes themselves to be top shit despite being individually weakest race in setting>only advantage is numbers >technology is ramshackle and barely understood>horrible abominations of steel and flesh are common>always backstabbing each other>always snatching defeat from the jaws of victory>both value the lives of their men lower than shit; 1000 guardsmen/clan rats to kill 1 enemy is a victory>ratmothers = birthing skaven and vitae wombs>love WW1 style attrition tactics>love charging low morale fodder into the enemy's front as their artillery and elites fire into both their own fodder and the enemy>similar names like stormvermin and stormtroopers>empathy, kindness, altruism seen as weakness
>>76942772Soup can seems kind of small. I use an ice cream container
>>76942808I hope that they get to use more regular CSM stuff than Thousand Suns or Death Guard. All Death Guard are Plague Marines, all Thousand Suns are Rubrics or Sorcerers, but not all CSM are Noise Marines. They should still have acces to regular CSM and Havocs and the like
>>76942176Khorne daemons have a motorcycle with a cannon. Deamons can into technology If they want to.
>>76942817>tfw lost a fiend toe down the drain. Learnt my lesson.
>>76942762Holy shit anon, please, bless the thread with some stories if you have any.>>76942774I don't want to use my cast iron skillet for washing minis, nor would I want to ruin the seasoning with dish soap. I do extremely rarely get canned foods. I literally went to the communal dumpster for this can I'm using right now.>>76942809>>76942840it's the principle of not having unnecessary things. I just think it's more efficient to maintain a single set of eating utensils than it is to own a shit ton, and have my incredibly procrastinative personality ignore an enormous mound of dishes for a long period of time. the same is true of my clothing. I unironically dress like a cartoon character, and merely wash the same 3 shirts and 2 pair of black slacks over and over.
>>76942842>imperium>technology is ramshackle and barely understoodyou are fucking retarded and don't know what "ramshackle" means
>>76942293They are not. They are nihilistic shits that only make things worse. They solve nothing, and they will never succeed in their goal.
>>76942848>They should still have acces to regular CSM and Havocs and the likeThat's exactly what I hope too. I'd really like regular slasnesh CSM with that sleek aesthetic, and noise Marines that have the older disorderly look.
>>76941655aw. are you feeling like everyone in the world and everything in it is intolerably lame again?
>>76941953Yeah, because they're ultramarines colors
>>76942852I'd just like them to want to more so.
>>76942506Gal vorbak, they were the first possessed and the best, all the possessed after that were subpar.
>>76941792That headcannon is retarded.
>>76941949>oh boy, 300 points to spend! im gonna take two units of heavy weapons with long range!>turn 1 do something>turn 2 do something>turn 3 do something ad nausem>oh boy 300 points worth of summoning! I could get anything I need!>cast incursion or ritual turn 1>demons have to foot it>cast incursion or ritual later in the game>get to utilize those points for 2-3 turns maxIf your gonna summon, its to use your dudes as living transport vehicles. terminator/jumpack lords/sorcerers deepstriking with a cadre of melee units who get in the thick of it then summon while dug in combat. If you have your winged prince go on solo missions its good for that too but its harder to get him across the table in 9th with the new character rule
>>76942870>Live alone>Bought a 70 inch tv and 4k furniture set for my living room>Don't have cable, never even sit in living room I could host a dinner party for 20 with all my dishes, too... One day I'll reach your level of isolation.
post boys or no balls
>>76942762>early 2000s>everyone sharing 40k lore theory's since the actual lore was much more vague and mysterious>everyone crowding round when someone brought in a new model, shit like a greater daemon was a big deal. >everyone crowding round to admire a conversion. >local club has a tourney, everyone shows up with joke lists apart from a couple of tryhards.Was a great time.
>>76942960hold on bro theyre in pieces unassembled and i need to wash them first
>>76942522It's an Eisenhorn tale with some familiar faces
>>76942980>used to think a wraithlord was scary as fuck and a huge model
>>76942914SameHonestly I'd love to see a new deamon unit with hellforged guns.They have swords and cannons so it fits and would actually serve to add some variety.
>>76942842>>similar names like stormvermin and stormtroopersWe have a fucking genius here holy shit
>>76942762> play 2nd> roll mission> well anon your entire ork army just died because they don't have sealed armor. I win.> ok I'm going to start shooting with my assault cannon Wolf Guard Terminator... I'll tell you how many I killed in 20 minutes.> ok so my 6 harlequin models will sole your army. And because they are tiny 28mm figures you can't see them behind the terrain as I move up> 3rd edition> fish of fury> IW basilisk bullshit with super chosen (BUT ITS FLUFFY!)> BA rhino rushThis game was never good
>>76941685>All of GW's paints are goodFuck citadel white. All of them. Fuck them hard.That is all.
>>76942960The names on the bases is cute
>>76942554>nazi rats are similar to catholic space nazisOh, I am shocked, I tell you.
>>76942848I still hate that DG and TSons aren't just supplements like the marine chapters. I know they operate differently to core CSM in the fluff but they still lose a lot of cool stuff like bikers, havocs, raptors and the like.
>>76941685Paints are ok, the paint pots are a fucking crime.
>>76942997Looks great anon.
>>76941685I agree. Vallejo is pretty good too.
>>76943020>shitting myself when a leman russ battle cannon blast covered an entire squad of 2 wound thousand sons.It was a simpler time.
Just ordered a bunch of 3rd edition metal Tyranids off eBay. Both Tyrant Guard sculpts, Old One Eye, the Hive Tyrant and a pair of the beefier metal talons. Was tempted by a regular 3E Carnifex but decided against it. Also a FW Trygon for £50 but it was in bad, bad shape (paint stripped, missing pieces etc). If the Trygon's still there when I've got more money I might nab it anyway and try and restore it.
>>76941857Imperium saved Slaanesh from being destroyed just as a fuck you to the the universe.
>>76943065I think of Raptors as moving really fast, like landing on a guy at 50 miles and hour and smearing him across the pavement. If a DG Raptor landed at 50 miles an hour it would burst like a disgusting water balloon
>>76943052makes em feel more personal
>>76943103I want to get some of the old hive tyrant heads for my current hive tyrants
>>76942594I was only kid in the 90's; but my dad and I went halves on the 2nd edition box set, after I expressed an interest in the game. Once a week we'd eat out for dinner then go to the university gaming society at the local library. I remember many of the guys there were metal heads with long hair and iron maiden t-shirts. I have very fond memories of those days.
Is this actually a good start to a DG army?
>>76943123Should have put them on the back so you can see them while playing.
>>76943138That's a cool idea if you can get them to fit. The 3E Tyrant head would need a hell of a neck to get the crest around the torso carapace, and the 2E Tyrant is pretty tiny.
i've made some more homebrew mechanicus shit, this time it's for the thallax cohort. i tried to base some of its rules off existing stuff as much as i can so the weapons are a weak knockoff of the questor knight magaera lightning cannon. they can also take the same heavy weapons from 30k a la nid warriors. thoughts?
>>76943151Just try to find DG halves from Dark Imperium. Patrol is dogshit and buying bloatdrones seperately is expensive as hell.
>>76943169I'm referring to the big 3E one. I've seen to pics of it done and it looks really good, no idea how difficult it is. Perhaps just sand down the torso a bit if needed.
>>76943151only if you want to get pozwalked
>>76943151>3 sets of the same monobuild kit>named character with a specific role>elite that only buffs one of the units in the boxno, it's a really bad box
>>76943151hordes are good this edition. Fearless hordes are really good. Dont worry about them having to kill things thats not their job. Get a second set of 30 if you want to have a good time just find a method of painting them that doesnt drive you insane
>>76943187>>76943209Oh. You people have a new meme. Wonderful.
Evening, all. Need a color scheme for my Timurid-themed Marine Chapter. I was leaning towards something red and black, like their more famous historical standard, but was also considering something with white and brown to emphasize their continuity with the White Scars.>TQHow it got me into creating things again after four or so years of gacha-induced stagnation.
>>76942754Will you fuck off you autist? You've been spamming this board with your shit "IMPERIUM ARE SKAVEN" nonsense for the better part of a year now. It's a stupid comparison and no one thinks it's valid. Fuck off.
which army has the best lore
>>76943273I never said that the Imperium are Skaven, and I even mocked that person here: >>76942578 and here: >>76942872There are no Skaven in 40k.
>>76943024Does this mean that orks are also Skaven because they have stormboyz and more ramshackle tech? Plus they have Klans and have a slave underclass.
>>76943205Ah, right. I've seen people use the plastic Zoanthrope head before so it should work, though obviously the actual head of the 3E Tyrant is smaller, and it's metal of course. But go for it! I'm going to be using this Tyrant as a Tyranid Prime, as it's bigger than a stock Warrior but smaller than a modern Tyrant.
>>76943252And that’s a good thing!
>>76943298Orkz confirmed for Skaven 40k analogue.
>>76942842half of these apply to chaos space marines and orks too
>>76943307I remember the 3E tyrant being tall since it was so upright. Has the scale of nids really grown that much since then?
>>76943151The ebay prices probably changed but you'd be way better off grabbing the surplus of pogwalkers from there versus the box.
>>76943334It was originally mounted on a Warrior sized base, and whilst it's quite tall it's far less bulky than the current one (which sculptwise is nigh identical to the 4th edition metal model).
Are assault intercessors any good for Space Wolves?
>>76943388It was bizarre they gave it such a small base while the carnifex had a larger one.
>>76941315I dunno who tf the King in Yellow is, but I feel he's deffo linked to the traitor legions because several chaos warbands are also after him.SPOILERS FOR PARIAH:We've seen Word Bearers involved in tracking him by infiltrating the local ministorum, and some of the Emperor's Children seem to think he poses a threat to Fulgrim's schemes (perhaps he's one of the people that knows Fulgrim's true name? This would make sense since he also likely wants to discover the GEoM's true name). In addition, the fucking Alpha Legion is evidently also curious enough about him to have one of their chaos marines join a radical inquisitor's retinue, and the Cognitae are also involved (perhaps related to the KIY? They seem to be on his side.)Pariah was a fucking fever dream desu
>>76943484Yes, the Cognitae and Lilian Chase are either working for, or towards, the KIY
>>76943151Don’t know yet?
>>76942960Those are girls
>>76943568center right could be a deldar with a man bun
>>76942960>>76943052Models look good but the names just don't look great in comparison. They could look neater
>>76941570I can go 2 miles to get citadel any paint, if I want Vallejo I have to shop between 3 different hobby stores and have access to less than 10% of their range.So yeah citadel is dramatically more convenient and less expensive to obtain.
>>76943520IIRC Lorgar knew Fulgrim's true name, and the fancy chaos book that Eisenhorn read long ago also came from that era (and had once been used to bind Magnus). That said, if it was Lorgar himself then the Word Bearers wouldn't have to find him, they'd know where he is. Since the KIY's realm seems to be outside real space, a daemon prince is a possibility without needing large rituals. My guess is that it's someone high up in, but no longer directly affiliated with the traitor legions as a whole. Could be kinda a Word Bearer equivalent to Narvo Quin, whoever that would be.
>>76942892They're going to save the galaxy from itself and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>76943614i feel like this has always been the case for names on bases. model could be fantastic but if it had a name painted on the base, it was in messy white. the only exception i remember was a tyranid vs custodes battle report where the custodes player was an absolute chad and had gold name plates on his models bases.
>>76943334I don’t think it’s gone that crazy yet, you can see my tyrant towering over warriors in pic. But it’s certainly grown.
>>76943640>fancy chaos book that Eisenhorn read long ago also came from that era (and had once been used to bind MagnusThe Malus Codicium? Don't remember that part>That said, if it was Lorgar himself then the Word Bearers wouldn't have to find him, they'd know where he is. Since the KIY's realm seems to be outside real space, a daemon prince is a possibility without needing large rituals.Hasn't Lorgar sequestered himself from his legion for a long time by then? They might be trying to reach him in this manner, or might not even know that he's the KIY.For what it's worth, Lorgar and Magnus discuss the real life King in Yellow book in one of the heresy books, only they call it "the amber regent"Personally, I do think it'll be someone major, as Abnett said he had to ask for permission from the higher ups to use the character
>>76943743In The Crimson King, Menkaura (a sorcerer of the 1k Sons) used a passage from the Codicium when binding a shard of Magnus. I don't think it's Lorgar because he's busy meditating at that point in the timeline, and Magnus is busy being Magnus (though he does have shards missing, so that would fit). I've heard some theories that it's Ahriman, but that's impossible as the King In Yellow has been to the Black Library before and Ahriman hasn't. IIRC some of the old Dark Heresy books also mentioned a King In Yellow, though it's unclear if this is the same person, especially since basically everything about that KIY was left for the GM to decide.
>>76943759I'm physically ill after having looked at this and not in the good way
>>76943743much like the hints that fulgrim is out and about they've also dropped hints of logar doing stuff
>>76943849>Magnus is busy being Magnus (though he does have shards missing, so that would fit).I feel like it isn't Magnus for the silly but simple reason that he's already the crimson king. Why add a color at all?As for the DH reference, I believe that was the king in rags and tatters, not the KIY
>>76943677Cosmic Suicide is no salvation.
>>76943759you did good on the carapace's anon
>>76941792Let me guess, you've only played DoW3?
>>76941949Master of Possession, Word Bearers, Malefic Tome, Incursion and one other spell. Turn 1, move and advance. Swap 2nd spell for Warptime with Chaos Familiar, 1 CP. Warptime self, use Covenant strat if necessary. Move and advance again. Incursion time baybee
>>76943908Can you honestly look at the state of existence in 40k and say it's preferable to oblivion?
>>76943894The King In Yellow was mentioned by name in the Haarlock's Legacy stuff IIRC, not talking about the rags and tatters guy.
why is it that heavily robed marines always look decent in art but garbage in model form? When will someone finally figure out how to make decent looking plastic/resin cloaks
>>76943908We're going to crash this galaxy.. WITH NO SURVIVORS!
>>76943953People still want to live. Who are you to say it isn't enough?
>>76943971Because you suck at painting/sculpting capes, that's why
>>76943072Thanks, too cold to spray Syll lately or she would be on there too.
>>76944017post your capes
>>76944017not like GW can do it any better
I have 30k Ahriman painted in 30k colors for my 30k TsonsI have metal Ahriman painted in 40k colors for my 40k tsonsHave no idea what to paint plastic Ahriman. I prefer the red scheme of 30k but he is going to be a 40k character. Think for me /40kg/
>>76943952done this before and its fun but the cp investment required to do the whole combo is convoluted when you can just pay for a patrol and deepstrike the demons without losing obsec or traits. You still have to fill out the detachment but all demons really want to play is HQ and troops anyway
>>76944072paint him half blue and half goldquartered of course
>>76944072>he is going to be a 40k character.I would say there's your answer.
>>76944089sorry, meant half blue half red
battlescribe update when?
>>76944118it's done, go update it manually
>>76943151Fuck do I feel stupid for buying Typhus separately just a few days ago. No reason to get this box now, just like TS one.
>>76944134>return typhus>wait for box to come out>buy boxyata
>>76944134I didn't buy the CSM battleforce solely because I already have Obsidius Mallex
i genuinely really like these combat patrol boxes. I am SO fucking excited to see what they do for Adeptus Custodes or Orks. They're literally perfectly designed with 9th edition in mind.
Just finished magnetizing some battle suits
>>76944194what's the radar dish do?
>>76944132> to update the app, dont use the app way of updatingSo its not really updated then. Thanks
>>76944175What would a combat patrol box for Custodes even be?
>>76944175>custodes combat patrol>land raider>shield-captain>custodian guard
>>76944017It's mostly due to thickness. Molding plastic thin enough to sell the effect is really difficult. Resin is a bit better but usually, you'll end up with the problem of not getting a clear line between where the flash stop and the coat begins. It's definitely possible to do, especially Brother Chaplain Kage's tissue paper method, but on 28mm is usually more trouble than its worth unless its for something Primarch scale.
>>76944162Mallex at least you can convert into something. This guy is either Typhus or scuffed Typhus.
>>76944175> Custodes> one box of Custodes> the relic contemltor in retard pose no one uses anyway> no discountOh boy
>>76943971Based Ariel Perez art
>>76944072Paint him in the old school dark red of Pre 3rd edition
>>76943759>not shit hive tyrant minimy nigga
>>76944204One box of normal custodes and something else, probably their shit contemptor that never sees the table.The standard box makes a troop choice, an elite, and a HQ character. Its literally a patrol IN the fucking thing
>>76944204the list anon posted last week with 3 misericordia sags, shield vexellum, 3 custodes, and misericordia shield captain was really fucking good
>>76944213>Mallex at least you can convert into something.Not really, no. It's an awful model for conversion.
>>76944212That's a lot of greenstuff work for basic troops. Gotta admire the man's dedication.
>>76944175Jet bikes with a custode squad probably. maybe trajann valoris too.
>>76944247> forgeworld in a combat patrol boxIs this your first day with GW?
>>76944224mike franchina but close enough
>>76944202Emits radar particles
>>76943151It's probably going to be a decent start to a very specific build that I personally find extremely boring. Hard pass for me.
>>76944264> jetbikes in the Custode Combat Patrol boxLiterally no chance.
>>76944212You can just do tissue paper soaked in superglue if you get a reasonably thin superglue
>>76944202Could portray a few of the support systems, one that comes to mind is the velocity tracker
>>76944271do they give you covid?
>>76944271Blasts the opponent with 5G waves
New poxwalker rule functions like old reanimation protocols.
>>76944322tau players should be forced to hand this out to their opponents
>>76944322I didn't magnetized the support systems lol, just put them on for aesthetics.
>>76944321No, just vaccine side effects
>>76944322>5 names for gitfindasblue boyz ain't right
>>76944336>"I can hear my phone ringing, but I can't remember which pocket it's in" >"fulgrim is sure to give me another pounding if I don't pick up toute de suite!!!"
>>76944413What about blue?
I just dont know what the appeal is about these nu fangled primaries intercersorpetors are...
>>76944413They have more fizzwidgets than actual guns
>>76944194Very slick. What size magnets did you use?
>>76944454actually looks awesome...at least one of em
>>769444873mm diameter, 1mm thick. JUST small enough for the middle pods
>>76944495Ha thanks. Working on number 3 right now. Fucked up the torso joint a bit so I just finished puttying it back together.
>>76944548The gap in that gun
>>76944623yikes, gotta hit that with some miliput my man
>>76944623T h I c c
>>76944597why does 4chan sometimes rotate pictures? Its not rotated on my computer...
>>76944665Exif data being read differently.
>>76944665exif data is scrubbed so that people can't get your information
>>76944623ITS NOT MY FAULT GW SELLS SHITTY KITS
>>76944727Gap filler binch, I use gel super glue to assemble stuff
god i dont care how awful it is, i LOVE the concept of a phobos-only primaris list for
>>76943862Excellent, the intent of my army scheme is to evoke revulsion.>>76943913Thanks, I got a lot better at it/had more of a visual idea as to how I wanted my bugs to look by the time I did the warriors and the terrain compared to the hive tyrant and carnifex bodies.>>76944240I do also have the newer tyrant with wings for what it’s worth,but dislike its head so much that I rarely use it.
>>76944548use gw plastic glue to not have gaps like that
>>76944777Nice lictor. I'm thinking of printing clear stealth suits.
Make gretchens 5ppm again
>>76942231Your last sentence answered your first.
Anyone else mix their own paints?
>>76941570that's my situation. it's either go to the gw that's like 10 minutes away or less traffic depending and have a friendly chat with the redshirt for a couple minutes, or go to the only other place within reasonable driving distance to get a shittier selection of gw paints or a very sparse selection of vallejo or army painter where I'm also ignored or pressured to spend a hundred bucks on a shitty boardgame
>>76944857no i unrionicalyl paint out of the pots
>>76944772Go for it, I'm a sucker for themed lists too.
>>76944849Allot of people just brush paint and never touch an airbrush.
>>76944894When were airbrushes mentioned?
>>76944857I always put a couple drops of my own blood into the pot when I paint my Blood Angels.
>>76944894Thinners are worth using with brush as well.
>>76944756Tamiya extra thin plastic cement can be used for that too, although that gap might be too wide.
What's the heuristic for gluing the arms to the body and also gluing the arms to the hands holding the weapon? hard mode: I HAVE to use super glue.
>>76944923Me putting together my venomcrawler
>>76941658some of them get exposed heads if I'm feeling like it when I'm putting them together, but probably 90% of my marines including most characters have their helmets on
>>76941219>TQNight Lords and Tau!
>>76944927Can you use them to make shades?
>>76944857>>76944923I always put a couple of drops of my own semen into the pot when I paint my Emperors Children.
Can someone tell me a bit about the lore of techmarines in 30k? Particularly those in the traitor legions (EC especially if we know of any)
>>76944932Assuming the model is right-handed, the left wrist/hand to gun connection is the least important one to glue and can be skipped
>>76944990Bit thick to paint dontcha think?
>>76943971There are not a lot of robed kits, so people sculpt their own with greenstuff. When they do so, vast majority overestimates the thickness of the material, making the robes look retarded.
>>76944977>Flaying innocents>Actual tacticsEdgelords and weebs get ye gone
>>76944990>>76944857>>76944923I always put a couple of drops of my enemies semen into the pot when I paint my Drukhari.
>>76944977I think you mean Alpha Legion.
>>76945022he's talking about how the Night Lords immediately flee any engagement that they know they can't win
>>76944240whats wrong with the tyrant, just because its popular doesn't mean its a bad sculpt
>>76944777Why a mix of clear bases and normal?
>>76945035They certainly are the masters of fear, being afraid of everything else in the 40k universe.
>>76945034No, Alpharius, pretending to be retarded is not a tactic
Looking at this for DG list with updated points. Troop squads have blight launchers. Terminators have combi-meltas and one with flail.Everything is kind of costly now and will really depend on what stratagems are in the new codex.
>>76945035Its not fleeing its strategic withdraw.
>>76944977>tau hate is because they use "actual tactics"Lmaoing at your life.
>>76945083Advancing in the same direction as the enemy
>>76945098This one is actually clever.
>>76944857Yeah, I have a decent collection of colours but I tend to mix my highlights/ shades and tonal variation more often than getting a new paint for itAlways mix my flesh tones
>>76944932Blue tack some connections while gluing others, remove blue tack then glue those connections.
>>76944797Yeah I have a regular one as well but always loved lictor models. Shame about the rules this ed, and last ed.>>76945047The non clear gaunts were my first nid models painted, by the time I did last heap I had an idea of using clears to see how it turned out/experiment (pretty well desu, in the age of battlemats, I’d still use a scenic base for something carnifex sizes though ) I’ll eventually have to retrofit the ones on bases with more clears but those are long term goals.
>>76944987You want clear medium for shades. Though some thinner can help.
Nurgling being swung at hihg speeds
>>76945181Oh and you'll get better results going ink+medium rather than paint+medium.
How hard would it be have a melee weapon rest on the shoulder of a space marine?Will the shoulder oad get in they way?
>>76945220*Bonks you with Mike wazowski*
Do I need to rinse metal figs off like resin ones?
>>76945252Yes. Soapy water and a toothbrush.
Post Plague marine loadouts.
>>76945228Should be pretty simple, just rest it on the pauldron
>>76945284Axe and Mace. The Chadfly loadout.
>>76945310what's the point of a chainaxe that can't spin
>>76945221Gotta be honest I never understood the difference between inks,shades,and gloss except that inks go into airbrushes. Dont they all act the same?
>>76945310What’s the benefit of taking mace and axe on the same guy? I know you have to, but I dont understand why.
>>76945331It's a bubotic axe, not a chainaxe.
>>76945362It's visibly a chainaxe that mutatedYou can see the distinct chain-weapon motor right there
>>76945358It's retarded and is used for confirming you're playing a retard.
>>769453581 extra attack if you have 2 melee weapons.Also the mace is a budget thunder hammer.
>>76941949>Daemons are shit>CSM fundamentally are a melee army and require moving.>Summoning still requires the 9" distance so you can't use it aggressively. >By turn 2, your already too close to use it defensively (you)(you)(you)(you)
>>76945310How do you get the base color on the feet and the foot color on the base at the same time?
>>76945379Oh. Well idk then, Nurgle shit I guess.
>>76945331It has aids on it.
>>76945391Mate I wasn't gonna make yet another bolter marine from the multikit box, might as well make one with a wacky loadout.>>76945400Sorry, could you rephrase the question?
>>76945442The fuck is wrong with that overlord's feet and the rocks?
>>76945396I imagine daemon summoning will be auto casted by burning CP from now on, during command phase. Daemons can act normally for remainder of the turn.
>>76945467>more fucking emphasis on CPmake it stop
>soup is now penalized Fuck this edition
>>76945331isn't it a power axe-equivalent and not a chain axe-equivalent?
>>76945479You get 1 cp every turn just for being battleforged. Stop whining. They’ll obviously make a rule that summoned daemons don’t break battle forged requirements.
>>76945507>Stop whining.no because I hate the entire stratagem system and how it's implemented
>>76945489>NOOOO NOT A MINOR PENALTY FOR TAKING THE BEST UNITS FROM ACROSS THE IMPERIUM I HATE YOU DADDY GW!!!You got off light, soupfag.
>>76945489Soup was abused.
>>76945455OhWell idk, ask the dude that painted it
>*mark gets placed on you*
Painting 11 minis at once is suffering
>>76944849there's a reason why people don't just pour thinner into their paint potsI just don't know that reason
>>76945489Soup was too good to be left unrestricted. If you aren't a WAACfag this won't really affect your beer and pretzels games at the LGS.
>>76945567i dunno i kinda like it...>paint all the trousers and shirts>have a break, watch a video>paint all the loin cloths >have fap>paint all the shoulder pads>etc
>>76945567unless they are necrons. then its immersive like a factory wagecuck easy yet tiring assembly job.
>>76945567I'd much prefer the assembly line painting multiples than painting center piece models
>>76945567I can't assembly line, it gets boring as fuck
>>76945507Yeah except daemons are ALREADY a super CP hungry army. Adding in more costs only makes it worse.
>>76945521Relics for free instead of pointsSingle use war gear uses CP instead of pointsMore options for unique play styles without a complicated special rule systemCombosDetachments cost CPso there’s an incentive to not use multi detachment lists if you can help it.You sound really bitter but strats are good.
>trying to put together sags without any fancy pre-adhesive or pinning techniques holy fuck this shit is aids. good thing i'll only ever need 3
>>76945594The problem is that a couple of my friends are waacfags and now I'm losing every game.
What's a good alternative primary colour to red for AdMec?
>>76945618Blackstone traitor guardsmen, they're dummy detailed ;-;
What army can I play that has the killiest troops?
>>76945567Yeah I feel you. Batch painting is definitely more efficient but it's so much more soul-sapping IMO.
>>76945708Do you mean other than space marines?
>>76945677Can't go wrong with black.
>>76945708World Eaters can be downright fucking stupid in terms of attacks, but good luck actually getting them into combat is the trick.
>>76945677for me, it's baby blue
>>76945674Get better friends.
>>76945708space marines can spam intercessors with next to no downside if you just want tough dudes with obsecIf you want melee prowess then WE zerkers or bloodletters,
Has any chapter defected but not actually turned to chaos?
We haven’t even seen the entire death guard book and they already look absurdly powerful
>>76945489>>76945540>>76945594>>76945674Chaos soup was required to make CSM playable at an acceptable level.
>>76945649>Single use war gear uses CP instead of pointswhy>More options for unique play styles without a complicated special rule systemwhat's wrong with a complicated special rule system>Detachments cost CPso there’s an incentive to not use multi detachment lists if you can help it.yeah I love to be punished for using more interesting armies
>>76945757That isn't your army
>>76945776Stfu and just wait in line for your book. Every book so far has been excellent.
>>76945766Literally what a renegade is
>>76945776Yeah, but it is what it is. All you can do now is pray for a good codex. In a way, GW taking so long to make their codex is probably a boon since they'll have more time to actually work it out.
>>76945780You obviously came into the hobby in an older edition so you have rose tinted nostalgia glasses
WHO DOES THE ALPHA LEGION FIGHT FOR!?
>>76945718itneresting. what would you run?>>76945723i thought these guys were just super obsec, and weren't really that scary>>76945725nah, including space marines. something more than just an objective monkey. like, you see a squad of them and unlike most battles where you select a big tank or soemthing to nuke in t1 you;re trying to kill that squad of troops because theyre amongst the biggest threats. that kinda thing.>>76945734sounds like good synergy in transports maybe?>>76945762hoenstly id run an ENORMOUS thing of heavy intercessors because im a huge fag but they're just not out yet
>>76945791I'm not even that anon or complaining about it im just pointing out to be at a mediocre level chaos soup is almost mandatory
>>76945766>defected>abandon one's country or cause in favor of an opposing one.>in favor of an opposing one Wait. Are you asking for a chapter that fights the imperium in the name of chaos, while somehow refusing any and all assistance from the chaos gods? Or are you just wanting a chapter that has abandoned the imperium and pursues their own fate, while still fighting against Chaos?
>>76945782I'm not even sure how you came to this conclusion
>>76945822I came into the hobby at the start of 8th edition and stratagems have always rubbed me the wrong way
>>76945853Could you elaborate?
>knocked over a tube of super glue and nephew rolled over it with his chair, squirting it all over the carpet i fucking hate this hobby holy shit. FUCK RESIN AND FUCK METAL AND ESPECIALLY FUCK SUPER GLUE
>>76945647If by CP hungry you mean blowing them all on exalted daemons lol
>>76945766Soul drinkers, kinda
>>76945766I haven't read the Soul Drinker trilogy, but isn't that what happens to them?
>>76945879post a pic
>>76945853Been playing since 3rd edition. I promise you it’s better now.
>>76945879Close your super glue anon
>>76945879Then stop being a clumsy fuck?
>>76945879Loctite gel control
>>76945885>the cost of deepstriking exalted GUO, Skarbrand, and a letterbomb in a 2k game after already paying the patrol tax
>>76945776All I want is an ammy with very few CSM and waves of daemon/renegade cannon fodder. GW just seem he'll bent on making sure thats not playable.
>>76945776Souping in daemons was a feature not a bug. They’ll be incentivized to do it again I wager. >>76945674If you aren’t learning from losses you shouldn’t play games. Calling opponents waacfags is a tremendously unproductive mentality
>>76945932Being a waacfag is a shitty mentality too.
>>76941444What am I missing here?
>>76945846The latter. Obviously, Chaos sucks but the imperium is this broken mess so I was curious if any chapters got fed up and fucked off.
Cool dark Angel books to read?
>>76945826yes, but also no
>>76945953Maybe don’t play for points?
>>76945708Emperors children with noise Marines are the sleeper pick
>>76945866I don't like how the whole game is focused around themI don't like how listbuilding is solely focused on CPI don't like how they devalue units with special rules by giving those special rules to everythingI don't like how they're turning wargear into stratagems for no understandable reasonI don't like how CP are more "ability points" than "command points"Army-specific issue: I don't like how stratagems incentivize you to make every shooting unit Slaanesh and every melee unit Khorne, and nothing Tzeench or Nurgle
I just play stuff that looks cool
>>76945339No sad they behave differently and all have their uses.Everything can be used by normal brush or airbrush.Gloss is just a shiney finish when dry and can be a property of any paint, ink or shade.Inks are liquid pigment rather than powder like paint. Inks tend to dry glossy and generally are translucent, but have very intense colour. They're also very thin or runny. I like to use inks for free hand because of that as well. It flows off the brush easily which means I can keep lines thin with very light pressure. Strong colour means I can get away with only doing one coat as well.Shades or washes are very translucent and runny. Which helps them pool in low points and act as easy rough shading while being very translucent when thin. They also have something in them that reduces surface tension so you tend to get no or less tide marks compared to just watering down paint (which will still do as a wash in a pinch)
>>76946006Same. Getting a fire raptor for my CSM because look great. Also use the maleceptor and haruspex for my tyranids for the same reason.
>>76945988>dr charles silverstein
>>76946041Much prefer these guys over coneheads with guns of sticks
I play stuff that doesn't look cool to other people, only me
>>76946237well i'm glad you finally decided to come out as LGBTQAFAGGOT
>>76944820I meant 3 derp
>>76946255I don't think that I like the Khorne Lord of Skulls for sexual reasons
>>76945489Just play Crusade my dude
>>76946296And another demon, and another demon, and another demon, and
>>76942345This, a million times.Was it really that hard for people to understand or something? I say this like GW has ever had easy or functional rules for HWT but yknow.
>>76946345N-no I don't
>>76946345No, I do the superior one instead
>>76946443>No dick cannonDo not want
>>76946443That guy's legs are too long
>>76946443I genuinely cannot comprehend how people like this design.It's just scaled-down warhound legs attached to a body not meant to have legs. It's too tall to use the axe properly. It lost the dick cannon, but didn't gain anything to make up for it. Its rules are garbage, too.
>>76946443Shoulders not pointy enough.
>>76946443The Kytan is a perfect visual explanation for why Knights and Titans don't (and shouldn't) have perfectly humanoid bodies
>>76945780The point is precisely to punish people making homogenous netdecked soup armies, and to incentivize creative/masterful use of single faction armies, or to cost you a resource to bring multiple factions, thus requiring you to make the most of them with less starting resources.>>76945990Listbuilding is definitely not solely focused on CP. For example I'm running a 2 detachment army right now (Guard + Scion) and getting better results starting with 7 CP (extra relic + tank ace + detachment) than I was focusing on a single detachment. I do agree that it's an imperfect system, with some absurd strategems and ones that, as you put it, devalue special rules when it makes them portable.But at the same time, I was just playing into a Custodes faction, and them being able to use strategems to reduce my demo cannons from wounding them on 2's made a huge difference. And they had a couple different ways to do that, so choosing when to use which one on which shooter was important, as well as me choosing which order to shoot in, forcing him to use something in a place, letting me get away with stronger shooting elsewhere.Like I said, it's not perfect but it adds a lot of depth to the game. Especially if they iron out some of the "must always use" ones (looking at you Transhuman Physiology, though it's probably necessary)
WFB did the Lord of Skulls better.
>>76946516>Especially if they iron out some of the "must always use" onesI really really hope that they get rid of Endless Cacophony and Fury of Khorne. Peak soulless stratagems that promote the "every unit needs to be able to delete another unit per turn" mindset and make people choose marks based on gameplay and not fluff.
>>76946591if its rolled into the units like eradicators that pay nothing for the same ability it would probably be fine
>>76946591I mean, ultimately 'crunch' is necessary bro. You're never going to escape that. Also like, I don't know what those do as I never really play vs Chaos, but, Khorne is melee, Slaanesh is....I mean noise marines and fast demons, so shooting/mobility I guess, nurgle is toughness which you get in spades in Desu Guard, and Tzeench is psyker shit which is in a bad place right now.I dunno what else it could even be? I'm not even entirely sure what your issue is being honest. Of course you want your khorne units to be the ones charging.
>>76946663You managed to entirely miss his point.
>>76946663>Also like, I don't know what those do as I never really play vs Chaosfury of khorne - pick a khorne unit to fight again (note: berzerkers can already fight twice)endless cacophony - pick a slaanesh unit to shoot again (noise marines don't have this baked in)Nurgle and Tzeentch have stratagems too but literally no one uses them (nurgle one is just the apothecary effect and tzeentch one is some psychic buff)
>>76946685I felt like I was missing the point as I wrote it, honestly. Could you elaborate?
so the average charge distance of most infantry units is about 7" or so, regardless of what it is?
>>76946707Yes, because 7 is the most common result of 2d6
>>76946707Unless it says otherwise, you roll 2d6 charges, yes. >implying a 7" average is meaningful when the odds of it occurring are one in six.
Now that its deadgame any good warmachine minis we can use as counts as model in 40k or are the settings to different
>>76946731The odds of rolling 6-8 is almost 50%, so saying the average is 7 is pretty fair.
>>76946514Agreed, but digitigrade legs on kytans and knights are less "perfectly humanoid" but more "slightly furry".
>>76946697I mean, I dunno if I'd say those are "soulless" like, Khorne stuff is nuts for skulls and mindless stabbing rage. They're definitely "auto-use" though.I'm a guard player and it's like Hail of Fire from a Demo TC on any vehicle. Why would you ever NOT? But it's not like "shoot the utter fuck out of that thing" isn't guard-thematic. I dunno I guess I'm not seeing the issue about "soulless". The argument that "a really good strategem that is autouse on a unit means the unit becomes autoinclude in the army, thus to some degree homogenizing lists" is a reasonable point though.
>>76946663Not him but the issue is those two stratagems are so good that they're too good to not use and warp the game around their use. Like if you're making a melee HQ you're going Khorne, because you'd be stupid not to. Fighting twice is too good to pass up. If you're running a strong shooting unit like Obliterators and have the option, you're running them as Slaanesh for Endless Cacophony, because it's too good to not run. Obliterators got a points hike to almost absurd levels because you HAVE to factor in that people will run them with Mark of Slaanesh so they can shoot twice, so now to get your points value out of them, you have to. Those stratagems warp the game around their use.
>>76945567>painting 20 necron warriors at once
>>76946759I realized that as I hit "send" but I was more talking about the hunchback look being important
>>76946777Bitch you think you can match painting 30 gaunts at once?
>>76946777I don't understand, you can knock them out in a single afternoon. They're basic necrons dude.
>>76946777>no trim>mostly all the same metalic color>having a inconsistant battle damaged/worn look is desirable anon pls thats ez mode
>>76946814>single afternoon10 minutes with a spray can you mean. They're basic necrons dude.
>>76946834Nah you still have to wash them, drybrush them, and dot in the energy bits + basing. With drying times for the wash/basing material and 20 models to do it's fair to say it's a job that should take about an afternoon.
>>76946783Fair. Non-hunchback is for xenos.
where the fuck do i cut for the custodes plume? i cant tell whats fucking sprue and whats plume AAAAA
>>76945045I dont like the non warrior-esk sculpt.
Make a new thread plz
>>76946982there's a thick part that plugs into the back of the helmet, don't chop that off
>>76947031if you have greenstuff you might be able to save it and then just pin the plume
>>76946443>humanoid torso, arms and head>non-humanoid legsmistake
>>76947196you actually think neurotypicals browse /tg/?
>>76947208What's a tg?
Would you guys be interested in screenshot + text battle reports out of TTS games?
Who is the Pope Francis of WARHAMMER 40,000?
>>76942273Well, besides the soul grinder
>>76947316no but I want you to post them anyway
>>76947363and the skull cannon
>>76942176It's especially confusing because Juggernauts are 100% entirely mechanicalWhy can they have literal mechanical bulls, but not guns?
>>76947368Alright, but why?
>>76947396>Why can they have literal mechanical bulls, but not guns?I think this is a holdover from WFB. There's a line you see sometimes in 40k about how "khorne cares not how the blood flows, only that it flows!" which is necessary because WFB khorne didn't allow his followers to use anything EXCEPT melee. Which wasn't going to fly in 40k where guns as the standard-issue weapon is the rule, not the exception.
>>76947515thread is dead and jewtube battle reports vary wildly in quality, and the channels I like I've already watched through
>tfw no qt Drukhari Kabalite gf.
>>76947544Peg me mommy
Why the fuck can't I add impulsors to my shitty 40k battleforge app army
>>76947548imagine saying this out loud. to strangers on the internet.you would never make a vocaroo recording of this
Good battle reports on youtube?
>>76947559winters SEO. Surprisingly good at shooting PoV vids and him and his guests are pleasant dudes. Doesn't run competitive lists and isn't very good at the game, however. Cozy, but uninformative. Unfortunately, the more informative the channel attempts to be, the more faggy it becomes and the more post-processing they tack on and bloat the video with. No I don't want gunfire animation and sound during the shooting phase. Stop it.
>>76947583Didn't saying that make you feel like such a slut?
>>7694758340 thousand keks
>>76947523>which is necessary because WFB khorne didn't allow his followers to use anything EXCEPT meleeWHFB Khorne used to grant his champions guns (40k ones, even) as rewards. Some of the models even had them. That, along with art like >>76946537, kind of made him the unspoken god of technology.
>>76947627>no titleYou fucked up.
>>76947583What's the fuck is wrong with this general?It's making me hot.