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1 mana Reverberate edition

]CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES:
>Current meta, complete with deck list
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>Build and share casual decks
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>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://www.makeplayingcards.com/
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Your local chinaman (we're still researching this one)
Your printer + bulk cards + sleeves can also do the trick
>Library of in-demand alters
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>Previous
>>76928088

>TQ
Thoughts on Foretell cards so far? Are they too slow for Modern?
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So what card will eat a ban for the sins of Tibalts Trickery anons?
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Post the best island art
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>>76938257
Cascade
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>TQ

In the context of modern, foretell is worse suspend

>>76938257
Violent Outburst
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>>76938227
Sop, Foretell is like Morph but it's in exile instead of a 2/2 on the field? I'm not impressed. I originally thought it was exiled face-up, so you could go, "Hey, opponent, I have a counterspell foretold. I can stop your shenanigans at any moment" and force them to play around it. Or "I have a Wrath of God Foretold. Don;t over extend. *Proceeds to cast Despise to remove the creature opponent was holding back for after the Foretold Wrath of God resolves*"
I like face-up Foretell better. Reminds me of the Seals from Nemesis. I always wished they'd make Seals but fore rare-power-level spells instead of common-power-level ones. Foretell would've played more like that if it were face-up.

Oh well, what do I know? Maybe they had a reason for it to be face-down. Face down is the same as being in your hand, all it does is just protects it from discard I guess, but discard isn't really that overpowered and typically happens turn one and two anyway. I'm not sure I get the point of this mechanic actually. you pay mana to put a card in your hand into "Still in your hand but in exile"? What?
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>>76938257
Monke? He’s enabled many unfair strategies in the past, maybe this one pulls him out of the format?
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>>76938257
nothing, you dingus
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>>76938396
mmmm mumeky
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>>76938468
Mtg has preorder bonuses?
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>>76938227
>>76938257
https://youtu.be/kayGZESb39g
...and here we go.
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>>76938257
We'll see if the deck can evolve a bit and get some more consistency. The fizzle chance is still pretty high on Aids' build.
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>>76938526
It's on MTG Arena.
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>>76938526
Buy A Box Promos
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>>76938567
Calling it now:
>this card leads to a broken combo deck in Modern
>after a month or so, WOTC bans Tibalt's Trickery
>since they have now 'fixed' Modern, they stop paying attention to it until Modern Horizons 2, and leave Uro / Field of the Dead unbanned
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>>76938284
Maro would legit look at this and tell you that it looks like shit with a straight face.
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>>76938818
He would be right. Even the artists would say that, John Avon himself said that his old art is awful when compared to what he can do nowadays tranks to digital art.
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>>76938504
That is a pig, anon.
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>>76938849
4/10 for the trolling attempt, slightly complex but very easily spottable.
You can work on it.
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>>76938985
Let me spoonfed you, little baby.
https://flowerfish.art.blog/2017/01/26/an-interview-with-fantasy-illustrator-john-avon/
There's also a youtube video where he said that.
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>>76938799
this literally what happened to Pioneer just change "after a month or so" to "after 6 months" and "Tibalt's Trickery" to "Inverter of Truth, Kethis, Underworld Breach and Walking Ballista"
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>>76938284
>>76938317
>>76938387
>>76938818
>>76938985
>/mmg/
>the old ass neckbeards will try to push oldshit once again on the thread
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>>76939077
Well, as you can clearly see, he's a soulless moneygrabber that feeds on the fame he accumuated when he actually put passion and effort in his work.
Also he has always used computer tools since many of his artworks were actual photos where he painted over (Annex).
He should go back to Orzhov Basilica and rethink his life.
As you should go back to r*ddit.
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>>76939170
>>>/chud/
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quality police here
shut the fuck up, thank you
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>>76939355
>the pot calling the kettle black
Are you that much of a mentally ill retard that you constantly live in delusions and act hostile when your cognitive dissonance gets challenged?
Seek help, and by help i mean drink bleach, a big ol' glass.
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>>76939408
If you really cared about quality you would join us in kicking back the normalcucks that pollute this website and send them back where they belong, reddit.
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>falling for obvious bait
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>>76939556
>calling others of redditors
>report others
what a pussy, pathetic. Would be funny as fuck when /40k/ mods/jannies start to take care of MtG threads.
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>>76938468
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>>76939674
>the bitch is gonna drink phyrexian poison and she's gonna die in the most painful way possible
Dare I say, based?
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>>76938468
Finally some Vikingx representation
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>>76939734
Yeah, your mom getting blacked and dying is very based indeed.
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>>76938526
For the shareholders
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>>76939771
stay mad :)
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>>76939771
What is it with mmg and shilling blacked shit when they get mad?
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>>76939929
it's mutt hours
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>>76939948
But it even happens during euro hours. It's just some sort of inherent mmg obsession with blacked porn. That or an american with a really awful sleep schedule.
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>>76938227
the upcoming DnD set better reprint Goblin Grenade, because I want that and this in the same Standard
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>>76939996
Y'all being baited by a 12yo redditor bored out of his fucking mind.
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>>76938387
Man the amount of stupid, I can't even comprehend your fucking thought process, like holy shit. You sound like somebody who thought Oko was a weak planeswalker.
Lemme explain basic shit. Pros of foretell.
>every foretell card's foretell cost is cheaper than its actual cost, allowing you to keep up less mana in later turns and still have answers.
>why would you want to show information and let your opponent play around an obvious boardwipe or counter, of course being face down helps, dumbass. How often do you ever see seals being played, minus the ones that are recurrable by broken ass companions like lurrus.
>cheap mana cost foretell cards help sync together stuff that would other wise take 7 mana total in one turn to do, e.g. 4 mana wrath into B foretell card that gives you a 2/2 for each creature that died this turn.
>do you not realize discard effects are most effective around mid game when your opponent wants to drop a planeswalkers or big green boi and wants to steer clear of counters.

Foretell is literally just suspend and morphs bastard child, where it's an investment that helps out tempo plays later on in a game.
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>>76938468
Hahahahhaahh WELCOME TO WAKANDA! HAAHAH
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>>76939957
I fuck my cutie trap gf every night.
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when even the infinitely pozzed legacucks on reddit start rebuking you, you know it's circling-the-drain time
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>>76940275
It's not flushing fast enough
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Friendly remember, BLACK is the strongest color of all Magic, meanwhile WHITE is the weaker color and it will never change, no matter how much you cry about it in MtG threads on /tg/.

WHITE is only worth and useful when mixed with other colors.
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>>76940066
I didn't think Oko was weak, I thought it was a really annoying card to play against because it was hard to kill because it came with so much Loyalty. But you think it's bad to force your opponent to play around an obvious threat? We must have WAY different playstyles. I don't tend to value the element of surprise much because most of my opponents play against me over and over to the point they've memorized my decks and know exactly what I'm planning most of the time, even if I try to fake them out (which never works, my opponent call every single bluff I do. In fact they call every time in the first place, playing against them is more like playing against a machine than anything since they love non-interactive decks, especially gimmicky combo decks, that can be done with a fucking flowchart). Whether I have a counterspell in hand or not they're going to try and play their shit. If tell them, "Hey, I have a counterspell. Don't combo off just yet" they're going to think I'm lying and play their shit anyway, even if I do have a counterspell. If I physically play a "Seal of Counterpsell" type thing on the board to assure them that I'm going to counter whatever shenanigan they want to pull they're going to play differently and think twice before they do anything major. Which I like. And I can also pay my mana for my counterspell early and actually use it later when I tap out for other things, which I also like.

Part of why I want rare-power-level seals is so I can have ones that are actually good in most decks. I love the seals and how having one on the board effects the game.
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>>76940275
People who bitch about proxies should simply just be let to rot and ignored.
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>>76940327
Nice cope for a color that's barely even in top ten percent of the modern meta. Especially when monowhite is the second most popular deck.
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>>76940327
To bad in reality blacks have been cucked and fucked throughout history.
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>>76938387
mtg rules allow you to reveal hidden information at any time

if you're mad about face-down foretell literally just turn that shit face up after you foretell it
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>>76940534
mostly by each other
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>>76939102
>Leyline of Abundance got banned
What a fucking world. Most of the problem was fucking WAR Nissa.
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She cute :)
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>he's this mad
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>>76940616
Based. Have fun at the greek place my guy, I fucking love gyros. Try the dolmas tho if they have them there, those things are amazing.
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>>76940327
>Mono white decks that are top tier
Legacy DnT, Modern DnT, Modern Hammer Time
>Mono black decks that are top tier
Pioneer(LMAO) mono black aggro

Your move sweetie :)
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>>76940616
Dare I say based and very redpilled?
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>>76938799
>since they have now 'fixed' Modern, they stop paying attention to it until Modern Horizons 2, and leave Uro / Field of the Dead unbanned

The fix is that Uro and Field will be unplayable garbage after MH2 drops
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>>76938567
Uh oh spaghettios! His first rough draft of the deck is already consistent enough to blow people up.
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>>76941196
That’s a definite possibility. My guess is that, because enemy fetch lands will be in MH2, there’s going to be a little bit less intentional power creep than MH1. Instead, the set will be Modern in name only, and primarily oriented towards Commander players. As such, we’ll see several le epic Legendary creatures that accidentally break Modern anyways due to a lack of playtesting.
Plus, MH1 was designed for a somewhat stable Modern format. MH2 was designed with the idea that Hogaak would be legal, everyone would be running pre-errata companions, etc. So WOTC could very easily have included cards to power up formerly fringe archetypes that are actually already strong in today’s Modern.
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>>76940444
>Modern
hahahahaha, imagine actually feeling like modern is important when compared to legacy and vintage chads.
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>>76941612
>The legacuck reveals himself
You're worse than edh trannies, at least they only buy ONE paypig version of each card in their deck.
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>>76941612
Imagine unironically playing legacy or vintage
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>>76941663
>he's a poorfag normalfag and thinks he can call anyone a cuck
almost cute
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>>76941729
Imagine unironically posting reddit/twich frog
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>>76941764
>Consooming wotc product
Oink oink paypiggy!
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>>76941612
>>76941663
>playing cucked formats with FIRE cards added by wizards
>not playing cube and deciding what goes in
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>>76941820
Jokes on you I too am a cubechad.
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>>76941796
So you're a third world tranny and only affort modern cards with pozzed digital art, I get it.
>Imagine no playing Legacy with your old friends for fun with your old cards
>>76941820
I play cube as well.
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>>76941863
Nah I just play proxy only cube, sold out awhile back.
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>>76941729
dunno, legacy players seem cucked to hell and back, but I bet vintage players would be cool if they existed
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>>76939929

The US is inherently obsessed with black ppl.
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>>76941923
Vintage is pretty cool from my experience. The few paper players started accepting proxies way before other formats due to the absurd cost of a real Vintage deck. It’s also been hurt by FIRE printings like Underworld Breach and Force of Vigor, but it’s probably the least-fucked real format currently.
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>>76941991
Remember when they had to ban lurrus? I'm still shocked that modern cards manage to make a huge impact in the format where shit like the power 9 is legal. Or I would be, if it was 2012.
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>>76941991
>Breach
>Force of Vigor
>Narset
>Lurrus
>Oko
>PO
>Veil of Summer
Saying it's the least-fucked isn't exactly warm praise. It's still plenty fucked, just not quite on the level of legacy or modern.
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>>76942173
>Remember when they had to ban lurrus?
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>>76938468
>norse
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>>76942547
Well yes, anon. Nothing says "Norse" like a literal tranny (Complete with hideous sidecut and dilating action! Get yours today!) and a fucking nigger.

If we're all about this inclusiveness shit, I demand a literal pedowalker.
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>>76942705
>Diddle, the Groomer
>+1 Inform your opponent about the ages of consent in various countries
>-2 Give your opponent a copy of your NAMBLA card
>-6 If your opponent is under 18 years old, take them out behind your LGS and stick your finger in their ass
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>>76942705
The tranny is actually Greek so the two faces of the set are not even from Kaldheim
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>>76942775
Fucking GOOD. I'm sick of planes where all the walkers on it are from that plane. Like holy fuck you could be ANYWHERE in the multiverse right now, and you're on your fucking home plane?!
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>>76942759
>tfw I have used that Ultimate before...
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>>76942816
Sorry kid rules are rules. Don't make me call a judge.
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>>76942885
To join in?
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>>76942885
Topkek
also hot
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>>76942953
Yeah we'll see how many D20's ya can hold in there.
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>>76942953
I get all his judge promos at the very least.
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>>76942759
>not -X ult to go X inches deep
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>>76942759
Can we get a bestiality rights planeswalker too?
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>>76943001
>starts at 8 loyalty
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>>76943001
Cute, but I'm going balls deep every time.
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>>76943015
We already have Lukka.
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>>76943015
>Lukka, City Zoo Season pass Holder
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>>76943041
Lukka pass holder can partner with Sara, Peanut Butter Enthusiast.
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>>76943061
My fucking sides
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>>76941863
Based and richboomerpilled.
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>>76943041
I had a boy version. Kinky little shit. Can't believe I let that slip away.
And mtg was still fun back then, too. WHY DOES THE FUTURE ALWAYS SUCK?
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>>76943106
>sharing your boyfriend with a dog
Cringe.
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>>76943192
To be fair, he and the dog were together before I entered the picture, lol.
God that shit was so hot to watch, though.
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>store started hosting unsanctioned modern
>more than 7 showed up
>a bunch of people complained that no one was wearing masks
>final number settles at 7 (incl. 3 employees) cuz the complainers all left
>modern ultimately didn't fire
>store getting hammered on yelp now
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>76943345
Post link to store Yelp page
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Jannies get in here and earn your pay.
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>>76943359
>he doesn't like heckin doggerino decks
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>>76943359
You're so right, anon, let's get back on topic.
MAN I'M SO GLAD THEY MADE A TRANNYWALKER FOR INCLUSIVENESS. I knew the game had been missing a little je ne sais quoi. Now we're cooking with FIRE!
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>>76943345
Does anyone take Yelp seriously anymore? It's almost never good reviews.
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>>76943624
From my limited understanding, it seems like Karen: the Website.
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>>76943320
Cucks deserve death
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>>76943320
the absolute state of mmg
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Here’s your competitively viable snow hate, bro

Front side:
{2}{W}
Legendary Creature - God
Flying, Vigilance
Snow lands that opponent controls enters the battlefield tapped.
Opponents have to pay 2 more to cast noncreature spell with 4 or more cmc.
2/3
Back side:
{3}{W}
Legendary Artifact
When source that opponent controls deals damage to you or a permanent you control, it deals minus 1 of the damage instead.
Whenever you or a permanent you control is targeted by spell or ability that opponent controls, the opponent should pay {1}. Unless, it is countered.
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what did they mean by this?
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>>76943681
>deserve death
>instead get blowjob from cute boy while dog Faithless Looting him
Truly, there is no justice in this world.
Thank god.
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>>76943833
Consoom, goy.
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>>76943829
I like that they remembered that white is allowed to have taxing effects. The artifact side should cost WW though.
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>>76943829
>A weaker, narrower version of Thalia Heretic Cathar, a card which only saw moderate play
>Here's your snow hate bro
Thanks I hate it
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>>76943982
You wouldn’t want players to have an effective hate piece against a premier set mechanic, would you anon? Imagine how sad you’d be if your brand-new mythic rare wasn’t able to dominate every game.
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>>76943923
>I like that they remembered that white is allowed to have taxing effects.
Accidentally slipped through the design phase. Taxes are not Fun or Inviting, anon.
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>>76938567
oh my god
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>>76944145
Uro eternally btfo when you're consistently dead before you can cast it gg wizards you saved the format
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>>76940357
Foretell makes the cards also protected from discard.
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unless Sarulf got changed at the last minute, pic related is pretty much confirmed to be false right?
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>>76944546
....That's basically confirmed to be true now
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>>76944546
Everything else is bang on and it makes more sense that it’s a typo or they made him green last minute
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>>76944594
They probably made him green at the last minute.
Reminder Kudro was Simic
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>>76943829
I'm actually not down on this card. Hates on wraths, cryptic command, planeswalkers and snow.
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>>76938257
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>76944546
>Modern Horizons 2 with new Shocklands
What the hell would they possibly be like? I would've thought they were running out of ideas for 2-color land cycles by now, and that's why they stretched pathways out across 2 sets?
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>>76944767
They always come in tapped but deal 2 damage to any target
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>>76944767
Modal shocks, 1 side is allied pair, other side is enemy
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>>76944844
>>76944788

Its just going to be the other half of the horizon lands nerds
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>>76944767
>What the hell would they possibly be like?
they always come into play untapped but if you don't pay 2 life on your next turn they sacrifice themselves
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>>76944546
>>76944588
>>76944594
>>76944620
Sarulf isn't a god, and given that they landed on the MDFC nature of gods immediately, could never have been mistaken for one.
Toski isn't really made for commander, either, and a Ratatoskr card was a very safe bet. Same with snow.
I'd say the fact that the "correct" items are very safe guesses means that the false details debunk the whole.
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>>76938575
Cut out the unreliable Demonic Dread for a 4cmc cascader like BBE or Throes of Chaos (actually finding a use for that last one in Modern, kek). Won't ever wiff if you hit it off Trickery. Slightly slower but the you already have a huge array of turn 1 wins so that's not a big deal.

Cut out Annex Chancellor too I'd think. Just adds another wiff to the deck. What goes in that slot though? NuKozi?
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>>76944959
I think you are being a bit scrutinous about the word choice when it’s still accurate. Not a god ‘type’ wolf but the wolf god of lore and the legendary squirrel is a squirrel commander. The leak is sweet because we can imagine a U/B version of that wolf
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>>76944995
4 mana cascaders whiff if they hit simian spirit guide before trickery though.
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>>76944995
>What goes in that slot though? NuKozi?

If you just want more finishers, what about Progenitus?
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>>76945534
Doesn't end the game immediately
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>>76943829
>this has been confirmed to be the only snow hate card in the entire set
>WotC genuinely believes the existance of a 3 cmc 2/3 in white will keep people from bluffing with snow basics
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>>76940327
Based and blackpilled.
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>astrolabe is so bad for blood moon that moon stompy decks are running more blood suns than blood moons now
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>>76940327
Cringe and cuckpilled. Black is used less in relevant formats than white, and even with bad cards every set monowhite still manages to be a top deck in modern.
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>>76938567
Alright now watch """"""pros"""""" and (((Saffron Olive))) claim they came up with the deck idea like they did Humans and the other decks this guy came up with first.
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>>76945986
which lists are you looking at? I still see 3x Blood Sun, 4x Blood Moon on most lists on MTGGoldfish
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>buy a playset of canopies for $300
>theyre going to be $5 each soon
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>>76940327
This tbqh senpai, black and blue are the powerhouses since the beginning, meanwhile white is weak as fuck and green too, both beta colors tbqh.
Red is the wildcard and sometimes is also powerful.
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>>76946052
Kek, pretty much guaranteed.
From what i know of, twice already this kike stole my brews not citing the sauce and when i complained in the comments he was insta deleting my posts. It was a long time ago, and i never bothered looking at his channel since then, so idk if he changed his talmudic ways, but i'd doubt it.

>>76943829
What a clownjoke, but the worst part isn't how bad it is, but once again how the effect is assymetrical.
PLEASE jotc, stop unnecessarly dumbing down the game, especially when it doesnt make any sense or is so oddly specific.

>>76940327
Speaking of which fren, i really think Narfi, Betrayer King is by far the most FIRE/retarded card from this set. It literally reads
>3 : replay me from grave over and over again
with 0 conditions! Forget about Uro, this shit is the ultimate valueboy.
And not only he have good stats, but he's also a double lord... It's pushing reassembling skeleton to a whole new level. I don't see why any snowBx control//midrange deck in legacy wouldn't pack this x1 with few entombs going forward.
I'm maybe a bit extreme but seriously, this kang is pure bullshit.
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>>76943001
"Juuuuuudge, he's cheating!"
>"How so?"
>"He only removed 4 loyalty counters when that ability definitely required 7!"
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While i'm at it, since some mmgfrens showed an interest over old border foils, either it be for nostalgia purposes or to make few bux, i was thinking of doing a kind of 1 foil 1 day.
Basically i would present an old foil i think is undervalued or under the radar, and quickly explain why i think it have potential. Preferably i'd pick cards always under a $5-6 threshold.
Do you frens would be interested?
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>>76947259
Yes please, could you start with a cool white one please? Maybe go WUBRG? I'm looking for some cool unique ones for my white collection.
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>spoiler thread fellating MaRo
Magic players really do deserve everything they get.
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>>76947259
For the first day, i choose to pick
>Faces of the Past
From scourge. The card is currently sitting around 5-6 dollaridoos, but is even cheaper on mcm.
The longer mtg will exist on, the more favored tribals will be, it's a very logical take since all creatures have one of several creature types. And this card already have many combos, either it be for vampires with captivating vampire, with kiki for gobs, or rats with marrow-gnawer, etc.. Basically any creature tapping to create a token with the same tribe (which is almost always the case) have a combo option with it.

Not only it have numerous ways to be abused on your side, and will always be more powerful with time passing by, but it also is a very strong tool to give your tribe-brew vigilance, abuse their tapping abilities but also mess with the opponent's board. A single targeted removal will tap all of their board if the creatures share a type, clearing the way for a lethal attack.
Playing changeling creatures basically allow you to decide the fate of all others creatures on the board for the turn, the minute you sac one.
It's such a great tempo and political tool for edh, i'm amazed at how cheap it is.

Also as i already stated, permanents with uniques effects are prime targets for old foils specs. And this one is the perfect example : echantment, cheap, monocolored, powerful and really unique effect.
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>>76947295
Ah damn sorry fren i saw your post too late, but i'll pick a W card for the next episode, i promise you!
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>>76947465
It's alright my man, this one is really interesting too, thank you for taking your time to write it. This could actually be really good for my zombies deck as well, I'll definitely pick one up.
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>>76947445
Fascinating card. Surprised it hasn't been reprinted.
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>ETB 4/4 angel
>angels T: destroy lesser creature
>angels double strike
this is the kind of card that's just barely neat enough that i'll try and stuff it into modern even though it won't work
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>>76947575
>Destroy lesser creature
But everything is lesser compared to an angel, so they can just destroy anything?
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>>76947575
>>76947669
das racis
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>>76947521
>This could actually be really good for my zombies deck as well, I'll definitely pick one up.
The card is incredible in zombies indeed, imagine what it could do with a gravecrawler.
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>>76947727
Oh shit I love shepherd of rot, I forgot he's from a time when we had old foils.
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>>76938227
Why do red has all the fun cards bros. I though Nosewater like blue?
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>>76947445
Very nice froggo, i love the concept and the card you selected. Definitely will consider picking up a copy.
>this flavor text
Please take me back...
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>>76947813
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"Resolute Valkyrie" {3}{W}
Creature — Angel Warrior

You may pay {1}{W} and exile a creature card from your graveyard rather than pay this spell’s mana cost.

Flying

3/2
Illustrated by Jason Rainville

>>76947575
Firja's Judgment {1}{W}{W}{B}
Enchantment — Saga

(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)

I — Create a 4/4 white Angel Warrior creature token with flying and vigilance.

II — Until end of turn, Angels you control gain “{T}: Destroy target creature with less power than this creature.”

III — Angels you control gain double strike until end of turn.

Orzhov Angel deck time?
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>>76948723
>You may pay {1}{W} and exile a creature card from your graveyard rather than pay this spell’s mana cost.
Neat. I could see this working out consistently enough with Street Wraith and maybe some other cyclers, or Viscera Seer and Stitcher's Supplier. There's also Merfolk Secretkeeper if you add blue.
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>>76947259
gay ass frog
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>fetch, trop, mongoose, pass
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>>76948819
a 3/2 flyer for 2 mana is above the curve but as soon as you invest anything else into it it's basically three mana card and not worth it anymore. any deck that's mass pitching into its own grave has way better things to do with the resources invested than pay for that.

it might be cute in standard aggro but that's it imo.
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>>76948919

>badlands, exile monkey, wayward guide-beast, move to combat, dark ritual, dark ritual, hatred for 19, hold up pact of negation

on to game 2?
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>>76948919
>>76949005
fetch, monkey, green boi chancellor, cascade into Trickery, cast Emrakul, take an extra turn
G3?
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>>76949003

>blue gets a 3/2 flyer for 1 mana
>white gets a 3/2 flyer for 2 mana + exiling a specific card type from your graveyard

seems fair and balanced
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>>76938567
I feel like I'm missing something here, this deck doesn't even seem good?
How many revisions until we get something genuinely broken?
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>>76949023
force of despair
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>>76938567
why would you go through all this trouble when hypergenesis exists?
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>>76949076
Shuffle yard. On my extra turn, I do it again.
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>>76949079
... anon.
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>>76949081
That seems unlikely given the number of cards you just played and have in deck.
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>>76949116
Well I did it, so have at ye.
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BASED WIZARDS PRINTED THE ANTI UROKOMNATH SPELL
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>>76949126
DAYUM now THAT'S effiecient!
I'm glad Wizards is printing all these 100% effective hard counters instead of just banning the problem cards!
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>this card costs $20 now
god it's surgical/leyline of the void all over again
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>>76949121
Yeah can I just check your deck there? Couldn't help but notice you "mana weaving" in the corner, and those sure are some noticeable markings on the back of your cards there.
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>>76949150
Mana weaving is fine as long as the deck is sufficiently randomized afterwards.
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>>76949214
>cheating is fine as long as you don't cheat too much
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>>76949214
>cheating is fine if I undo it afterwards
I mean sure, you are technically correct. But why introduce the doubt wether you actually have undone your cheating properly instead of just not cheating in the first place?
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>>76949149
>Cost 50 cents on MKM
Do mutts really...?
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>>76949287
Yes they do. We beat them in singles pricibg but the get their bawkses much cheaper. Ultimate kikery, they want more money on their worse quality cardboard WHICH THEY GOT FIR CHEAPER
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>>76949450
https://shop.channelfireball.com/collections/booster-boxes
It's not really cheaper tho. Barely 10% due to exchange rate in comparison to my LGS and it's even cheaper on MKM.
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>>76938567
Based on his win rate it's not too bad.
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>>76938227
>TQ
Needs a way to interact with. Cards that sweep face-down cards in exile (turning them face-up so they can't be cast anymore?), or card effects activated by players having face-down cards in exile (ie: "This creature gets +1/+1 for each each face down card in exile your opponents control.").
Maybe that's too niche, but so is Foretell in the first place.
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>>76949126
>"I'll exile 5 cards from my yard, and escape Uro again. Trigger?"
Nice "answer" wizards
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>Cauldron Familiar
>Escape to the Wilds
>Fires of Invention
>Lucky Clover
>Oko, Thief of Crowns
>Omnath, Locus of Creation
>Once Upon a Time
>Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath

>Reminder that all of these cards were supposed to be standard legal at the same time.

>Reminder that two of these cards are banned in Modern and two more of them are prominent enough in Modern that bans are warranted.

>Reminder that every card being printed in Kaldheim is being printed under the assumption that these cards are still legal.

Maybe we'll have our Oko answer now bois
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>agadeem the undercrypt untapped, exile mana monkey, exile mana monkey, exile mana monkey, balustrade spy
>hand extends
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>>76949783

>in response, exile monkey, exile monkey, exile elvish spirit guide, manamorphose for BB, brain geyser for 1 targeting you
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>>76949812

UU*

reeeeeeeeee
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>>76949812
>>76949783
*Eats your hand in response to it being extended*
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>>76949957
d-did I at least taste good?
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>>76950130
No. Tasted like sweaty nerd.
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>>76949783
>mountain, mana monkeyx4, irencrag feat, ugin, concede
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>>76941612
ok, cool story

so please explain how black is best colour compared to blue in vintage? im waiting
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>>76949783
Y-yeah, nice game, haha
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>>76950165
:(
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>>76950165
Joke's on you, I had my finger in my butt all game.
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>>76950602
Ah yes the indirect rimjob, a wise choice.
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>>76950622
Kek'd
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wtf bros

>[Karfell Port]
Land
Karfell Port enters the battlefield tapped.
%T: Add U.
3UBB, %T, Sacrifice Karfell Port: Mill four cards, then return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
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>>76951080
incredibly worthless
won't put it in my cube
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>>76951080
So 6 mana and reanimate something?
Grisselbrand is the usual target, he cost 8 to cast from hand, I suppose emrakul is better, but then you still need a way to discard him. Good thing we have a way better target to reanimate than those losers: omnath.
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>>76951128
I...t'S
nO-t
F?oR
yO!!uuuuu?
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>>76951080
Absolutely perfect for my 27 EDH decks with blue in them. Going to preorder them after MaRo is done using my mouth and soul as a toilet.
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>>76951080
Lands are now spells then? Also this most likely does not target the creature it reanimates, otherwise the mill part would be kinda pointless.
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>>76951190
yee, the ability has no target
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>force of will is $85 in USA
>$55 on card market
how do they do it
everything is so much cheaper just fuck my shit up
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Why are there so many black vikings and they're pushing Kaya so hard in this set? Does that not seem strange? When I think of vikings and metal music I don't think of black people, it makes very little sense as they are neither nordic nor into metal, usually. I could understand them pushing Kaya as the main character if there were no other blacks, because a black person in a viking setting would be seen as novel and strange, and that could add something. But there are black vikings and angels everywhere in Kaldheim.
Doesn't anyone else find this strange? Are they just scared of being called racist?
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>>76951561
stop being antisemitic, anon
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Play Pauper
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>>76951802
ok
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>>76943829
is that, another neger?
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>>76938257
>cast
heh, good thing the FFL was disbanded
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>>76951802
i am, we have a pretty active scene here in northern italy, both online and paper
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>>76952126
What's your favorite deck? For me it's Mono U Delver
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>>76951561
Yes and yes.
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>>76951379
collector mindset
but don't worry, big investors are popping out here in europe as well, Rona gave the perfect chance to these insects to crawl out
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>>76952134
mono-w heroics and cyborgs are my favs
i just wanna go fast
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>>76952134
check pauperwave if you wanna se some lists and articles, i believe most of the blog also has and english translation but either way both the decklists and graphs need no translation
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>>76952180
nice
zombies is another favorite of mine. what's the meta like there? lots of tron?
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>>76952211
last saturday mtgo tournament
"altro" means others of course
it's mostly mono U due to Fall from Favor
but there's a bunch of ponza and heroics popping out recently
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>>76947077
what were the brews froggy
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You know would would make Figure of Destiny better?

If it was blue
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>>76952180
cyborgs is this UW Recruit/of one mind deck?
It's p. cool
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>>76948919
Scrubland, Silence?
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>>76952495
oh shit an angel that draws cards? white is saved!
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>>76951561
american mindset
if a population does not resemble the new york melting pot then it's dangerous to the fundamental values and image of globalism, you NEED to flatten every culture to a costume to properly representate it, ancestry and cultural bonds are dangerous.
african culture is itself a weapon to dismantle a predominat "white" culture.
If germans where a minority we would have a wakanda set with literal blue eyed, blond nazis running around killing blacks. It's just perspective and i feel really sorry for all the wonderful setting and cultures these vultures are killing off
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>>76952520
thats it yes
not very strong but you can literally dump your entire hand turn 1, only struggles against burn and fog if very lucky
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This goes right into Amulet right?
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>>76952599
>1 of tech land with a useful ability in a deck full of them
Yes
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>>76952495
>wr card
>no wait make it green and black
>you know what, just make it blue
>yeah the blue one needs to be the best one of course
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>>76952495
Finally a nice white card, wait....
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>>76952495
This game is a joke
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>>76952495
How is this effect even remotely blue
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>>76952495
The sad thing is, this probably isn't playable in current year. It falls into the same pile of cards with Elder Gargaroth which are nutty value engines which simply deliver too little immediate value to be playable.
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>>76952495
SNOW IS NOT A REMOTELY INTERESTING (((MECHANIC))) HOLY FUCK

AT THIS POINT ALL SNOW DOES IS FORCE YOU TO USE BASIC LANDS

BUT OH WAIT WE JUST PRINTED SNOW DUALS SO IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL SNOW SHOCKS
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>>76952776
Gargaroth saw modern play tho fag
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>>76952495
Retarded.
But Bant Spirits does not need this.
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Why do you still care about Magic? This is like caring about the slut that cheated on you in high school.
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>>76952775
Anon, mono blue just got a dude that not only animates lands, but gives them haste and hexproof.

The colour pie is meaningless. Don't get me wrong I've thought that colours are a trash "mechanic" for the longest time, but not in the way Wizards are going about it.
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lol, some of you called it
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-14-2021-banned-and-restricted-announcement?dslkfjds
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>>76952863
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>76952495
>>76952566
>>76952624
>>76952637
>>76952667
>>76952775
>>76952776
>>76952783
>>76952804
You IDIOTS, don't you know blue's color identity is every color????? Duh, I feel like I'm in a thread full of retards
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>>76952863
JUST BAN THE FUCKING TRON LANDS IN PAUPER ALREADY
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>>76952863
Damn and I just bought a playset
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>>76952863
THE ONE FUCKING TIME I BUY INTO THE BROKEN NEW CARD IT GETS BANNED
HOLY FUCKING SHIT FUCK YOU
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>>76952945
Oh no! You wasted a dollar ;(
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>>76952963
it wasn't a mythic
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>>76952863
fuck i didn't sell the ones i got from draft yet
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>>76952965
I didn’t get to play with them
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>>76952296
>>76952863
lmao i literally posted this 40 minutes ago
way to go wizord
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>>76952880
umh sweaty...color...identity...? that sounds....yikes....
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>>76952597
no idea what your bulid is but you can literally run 2 flaring pains sb and some lifegain, given the amount of add any colour lands in the deck
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>>76952989
Oh no that's so sad! You weren't able to contribute to why pauper sucks with your 2 dollar at most investment! I'm so sorry bud, I'm sure you'll hop onto the next broken trend in time, don't worry. I hear tron lands just got a reprint.
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Guys, genuine question. Is Modern in a state where Twiddlestorm wants to run 4 Street Wraiths to make their deck smaller? Uro piles put on zero pressure until the mid game, and that 56 card deck makes you all the more likely to find Puppetry and Field.
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>>76952863
you know what really makes me think? this wasnt really a slip, they made a twitter post specifically to showcase this and the cannonade being 2 cards that would target pauper to stir things up and widen the deckbuilding options, thing that of course, didnt happen.
I play league and i'm already, like a total idiot, in the hands of people that do not know how to play the game, being entrusted with game design and balance. How is this a trend in every popular game, mtg included? Why aren't recognized pros or experts often called to make analisis for the R&D? Why this shit is so frequent?
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>>76953128
There's a surprising amount of good feedback on r/modernmagic if you ignore the circlejerk posts, which Wizards can literally just do for free.
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>>76953128
because the pros arent trannies nogs or women. wotc only hires those people now anon.
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>>76953184
This is wrong. Wotc in fact goes out of their way to not hire blacks, and if they ever have to hire a black they'll make sure it's only temporary. Their offices are almost entirely cishet white males.
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>>76938468
Magic's so fucking cringe. Yikes, really.
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>>76953128
>Why aren't recognized pros or experts often called to make analisis for the R&D?
First of all, there are supposedly pros working for R&D as well as playtesting, and in fact all this retarded FIRE shit started popping up after they hired MORE playtesters. Previously, WotC was being criticized because there were rumors that they had cut their playtesting team so hard that unpaid interns and family members were being used for their internal testing.
Second, pro players are not necessarily good for balance. There are a lot of them who are fucking stupid, and see a broken card, and they don't actually think about the effect on the game, they just think "well I think I would enjoy playing this, epic!!!"
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>>76953020

Creatures (24)
4 Auriok Sunchaser
4 Gingerbrute
4 Glint Hawk
4 Ornithopter
4 Thraben Inspector
4 Ardent Recruit

Spells (23)
4 Flayer Husk
2 Journey to Nowhere
1 Oblivion Ring
4 Of One Mind
4 Springleaf Drum
4 Thoughtcast
4 Tooth of Chiss-Goria
Lands (13)
4 Ancient Den
4 Survivors’ Encampment
1 Plains
4 Seat of the Synod

Sideboard (15)
3 Faerie Macabre
2 Hallow
2 Harsh Sustenance
4 Hydroblast
1 Oblivion Ring
3 Prismatic Strands


this is it, not enough burn decks to justify slotting more efficent lifegain but it's still a good idea just to cover more matchups, especially now that FFF is banned
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>>76953079
Burn, Blitz and Death's Shadow are very much alive and thriving in the current meta, I don't believe you can get away with 4x Street Wraiths.
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>>76953204
>(((cishet white males)))
its jews hiring jews isnt it
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>>76953227
Woah, a combined metagame share of <10%...
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>>76953227
>you either win on turn 3 with a zoom zoom aggro deck or get your shit kicked in by three different uro piles
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>>76939283
Fuck off, re-ddit.
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>>76953247
thats a pretty big share you idiot
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>>76953275
WOAH...
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>>76953246
Yes.
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>>76941612
>legacy chads
kek I prefer legacy too, but come the fuck on. The legacy playerbase is full of soi.
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>>76953128
being good at playing the game and being good at designing a game are two completely unrelated skillsets.
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>>76952880
that's green tho
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>>76953208
so is this the proof that today's pros are just netdecking retards? who's the Bogmind behind deckbuilding?
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>>76953326
>so is this the proof that today's pros are just netdecking retards?
Half the pros now are just analyzing the meta and then picking a decklist to have the best percentages against the field which is why you see these fucking Arena championships with the top 8 being 8 identical Uropiles
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>>76953319
i cant really comprehend this, i agree that imagination and creativity are separated skills but knowing what the meta needs/does not need should be somewhat linked to your skill and understanding of the game...?
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>>76953326
>so is this the proof that today's pros are just netdecking retards?
Were you unaware? New decks only appear because someone gets so fucking sick of something that they say fuck it and just do it. BR Shadow only exists because someone got sick of trying to play a clever game so went FUCK IT I'LL JUST TRY AND KILL YOU FASTER. Uromnath piles came from the garbage midrange Bant decks that gained massive powerups from Horizons then just kept getting more powerups as new sets came out. Any retard can take a new overpowered card and slot it into a deck.

But only /tg/ was smart enough to create a deck like Twiddle.
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I need a quick rundown on Uro and Oko
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Unban looting you fucking cowards.
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>>76951128
>So 6 mana and reanimate something?
7, you need to tap the land too.
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>>76953380
No, fuck off, loser.
>>76953363
If you are really good at chess, even world level, and were asked to then change the game of chess by designing 2 new chess pieces with unique rules... do you think you could do it?
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>>76952884
>kill more decks
Retard. Tron's fine in pauper. It's a fun control deck.
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>>76953380
>Uro
Best creature ever printed. There are zero playable cards that interact favourably with it. Essentially the ultimate threat; a creature well above the curve with multiple ETBs, an attack trigger, and flashback. Oh and it pitches to Force.

>Oko
Best planeswalker ever printed by a distance, probably belongs at #9 on the Power Nine. Impossible to kill, nullifies every creature's abilities unless it can't be targeted, creates 3/3 blockers, gains you life while creating artifact tokens, and does this all by ticking up. His ultimate is just game winning gravy. Can singlehandedly stabilise an entire board and before long win the game on his own. Oh and it pitches to Force.
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pioneer bros i need help
im building mono brown and i am torn on how to take it
do i play all the green pain lands, aether hub and crumbling vestiage as my green sources for mana dorks and try to turbo out to turns 3/4/5 and get to forsaken monument or do i go to a more traditional curve of 1-2-3-4-5.
going with dorks lets me play green in the side for a few disenchant style effects but i lose artifacts i get to play in the main and less colorless utility lands.
if i go for a more regular curve then i get to play stuff like amulet of safe keeping, mazemind tomes and other stuff instead of trying to jump ahead but i lose the green color and i have to play stuff like meteor golem and 6 mana ugin to destroy troublesome things like walkers or enchantments
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The best explanation I've heard for Oko's power is that he punishes everything you do.
>Play big nigs
>Turns them into 3/3s
>Play small nigs
>Blocks them with 3/3s, steals them
>Play no nigs
>Beats you to death with animated pies
Literally cannot win
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>>76953380
Uro
>3 mana sorcery speed Growth Spiral that heals you for 3 and then sacrifices itself on ETB
>You can cast it later from your graveyard by delving away exactly 5 cards and paying UUGG
>If you cast it this way, it doesn't sacrifice itself so you get a 6/6 + the normal ETB + repeat the ETB effect everytime you attack with it

Oko
>3 mana planeswalker that starts on 4 loyalty
>+2 makes a Food token (artifact that can sacrifice itself for 2 to gain you 3 life)
>+1 transforms ANY creature or artifact on the battlefield into a 3/3 elk with no abilities
>-5 allows you to trade a creature or an artifact you control for a creature your opponent controls with power 3 or less

Uro
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>>76953436
>Oko
>Better than NarsetPOV or KarnTGC
Cringe
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>>76953436
To add to this:

>Current Power 9
#1 Black Lotus
#2 Lurrus pre-errata
#3 Ancestral Recall
#4 Blue Mox
#5 Non-blue Mox
#5 Non-blue Mox
#5 Non-blue Mox
#5 Non-blue Mox
#9 Oko
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What pauper decks if any could potentially be played in legacy? Just burn?
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>>76953483
Hey everyone look at this Vintage player and laugh! He thinks cards are good because he plays in a metagame that's so incestuous it can insert seven fingers into its sisters ass using just one hand!
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>>76953458
>im building mono brown and i am torn on how to take it
why do you want to build mono brown in Pioneer in the first place? mono green planeswalkers basically does everything you want to do but better and faster
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>>76953458
>playing a format with no stack interaction or card selection
>just creatures, planeswalkers and removal
Don't see the appeal, desu.
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>>76953495
If you look at MTG as a whole, Karn Grabbing any Artifact printed is very powerful. If you look at Narset, digging 8 cards and shutting off card draw for your opponent, the most important thing in the game, is very powerful. Le board control man doesn't do actual powerful things.
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>>76953544
>Le board control man doesn't do actual powerful things
HAHA LOOK AT THIS GUY AND LAUGH

>"Heh, nice board of elks, UGx player, would be a shame if someone use Karn to grab Ensnaring Bridge so you can't attack ;)))))"

Nice plan. The best plan I've ever seen, in fact. Oko simply cannot deal with an Ensnaring Bridge.
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>>76953380
-Maro bows to Uroko
-In contact with the FFL
-Possess weaving-like abilities
-Control R&D with an iron but fair fist
-Own binders & LGS globally
-Direct descendants of the ancient reserved blood line
-Will bankroll the first cities on Strixhaven (Snowpilos will be be the first city)
-Own 99% of PIE editing research facilities on Earth
-First designer secret lairs will in all likelihood be Uroko babies
-both cards said to require 215+ IQ to be played, such intelligence on Earth
has only existed deep in Tibetan LGS & Area 51 playroom
-Ancient Mercadian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth
and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented netdecking progress with them
-They own Bending R&D labs around the world
-You likely have Urobots inside you right now
-Uroko is in regular communication with the Archangels Serra and Radiant,
forwarding the word of Powerful White Cards to the Investor Church.
Who do you think set up the meeting between Sheldon & the R&D?
(First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years)
and arranged the WOTC leader's first trip to a bathroom in history,
literally a few days later to the Uroko signature bunker in Snow land?
-They learned fluent phyrexian in under a week
-Nation states entrust their crypto reserves with the cards. There's no crypto in wagecuck reserve,
only Uroko
-The cards are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base old-border foil
currently accepted by our society
-In reality, they are timeless cardboard existing in all points of time and space
from the Reserved List creation to the end of the Maroverse.
We don't know their ultimate plains yet. We hope they're benevolent cards.
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>>76953421
kys tronnie
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>>76953485
>Lurrus above Recall
retard
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>>76953493
pretty much just burn yeah
you could try infect and high tide but they need a lot more expensive changes to the maindeck than burn
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>>76953576
Pithing needle, good game, sorry you won't make day 2
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"In Search of Greatness"
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may cast a permanent spell from your hand with mana cost equal to 1 plus the highest converted mana cost among other permanent you control without paying the spell's mana cost. If you don't, scry 1.
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>>76953604
I'm confident in saying that Lurrus decided the outcome of more Vintage games than Recall. In fact, Lurrus should probably be #1 for that reason alone.
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Elf Gang rise up
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>>76953624
oh damn
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>>76953624
THIS IS VERY, VERY STRONG

ALERT

ALERT

WE HAVE A STUPID CARD, FRENS

THIS MAKES A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF MANA FOR FREE IN YOUR UPKEEP

UGX PILES ARE JUST GOING TO VOMIT THREATS THAT REPLACE THEMSELVES
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>>76953629
lurrus was the first card to ever be banned from vintage for powerlevel alone in the entire 20 year life of the format, and the first ban in like 10 years
literally the most powerful card ever printed
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>>76952989
It sucks but fall from flavor isn't a fun card anyways.
I miss gush and cloud.
I got to untap stuff and draw cards and have lots of cards in hand :(
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>>76953512
because i get an excuse to play with all the fun colorless utility lands and i get to play with forsaken monument plus i just like artifacts fren.
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>>76953624
Holy shit it's actually fucking over
How does a game recover from so much shit design? There's something horrific every single fucking set. Even the retards at the Pokemon Company and Konami try harder than WotC.
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>>76953624
Enchantress gang rise up
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>>76953624
how will wh*telets ever recover?
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>>76953624
>People thinking this is strong
Do you fucking play mono green stompy or something? Wtf
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>>76953624
so you get to cast a 3drop for free since it includes itself in the count
damn that does really fits uropiles
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>>76953485
I think you mean

>Current Power 9
#1 Black Lotus
#2 Ancestral Recall
#3 Blue Mox
#4 Non-blue Mox
#4 Non-blue Mox
#4 Non-blue Mox
#4 Non-blue Mox
#8 Uro or Timewalk
#9 Oko

>Peerless in power and ruler of the skies, she who alone is banned in vintage for her might
Lurrus of the dream den.
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>>76953667
It was banned because you cant restrict a card that was already restricted by its mechanic.
Recall is, was, and will forever be a better card than Lurrus and you genuinely have brain damage if you think otherwise.
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>>76953651
>doesn't count itself
>not up to, has to be exactly highest +1
Not convinced this is any good.
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>>76953712
nigger you play this t2 and you get to cast uro for free, if you have enough lands in hand this can either be a uro+any 4drop (guess who) or literally uro into uro turn 3
and yeah you can alsoplay this in fucking green stompy if thats what bothers you
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>>76953712
Manacheating is strong, really, really strong.
>On curve
T1- whatever, probably removal or a tapland if on the play
T2-Drop this
T3-Free 3 drop (Uro, jump to 4 mana, Oko make an elk or food, y'know the works) !OR! Force a removal !OR! ("Worst" case) Scry 1 before the draw.
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>>76953712
My dude it lets you cast any permanent, not just creatures. Walkers, artifacts, and enchantments are all fine. Oh and just in case you don't have anything down on the board already? It sees your lands so lets you put in a one drop because why the fuck not? Oh and just in case you can't do anything with it, here's scry 1 so you don't have any feelbads.

Card is fucking retarded. If your cards replace themselves this can get out of control really easily.
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>>76953436
>There are zero playable cards that interact favourably with it.
Castigate, sucka.
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>>76953763
Other permanents you control, porch monkey. If you play a 1 drop turn 1 and this turn 2 you get a free 2 drop turn 3.
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>>76953786
It sees itself anon; You get to scry or drop a 3 drop
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>>76940066
>discard is better in the mid game
>thoughtseizes your epic fortell card before you play a land
Shit your pants and die, you don’t understand tempo or discard. Fortell is probably going to be solid in draft since it’ll give you something good to do with 2 extra mana, but outside of standard this isn’t breaking anything unless they print something truly retarded like you!
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>>76953763
>>76953756
>>76953718
>>76953644
oh thank god i didn't read "other"
wew
good thing its just me that doesn't know how to read
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>>76953731
>It was banned because you cant restrict a card that was already restricted by its mechanic.
"hurr durr lurrus is only strong because it has a broken mechanic on it durrrr this means lurrus isn't actually good because it's just the mechanic on it thats good not actually lurrus hurrrrrrrr"

Wow thanks Anon, I never realise that Golgari Grave Troll actually isn't a very good card. And Tendrils of Agony? It's trash!
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>>76953802
>>76953819
yeah my bad i've already noticed nigger
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>American hours
>The low IQ posting starts in full force
Every fucking time.
Lurrus was played in pretty much every vintage deck except dredge and shops lmao.
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>>76953799
Now you're warping your deckbuilding around Uro's existence and paying more mana for an effect than you otherwise would because you'd pretty obviously rather run Thoughtseize than Castigate.

So you're still losing out.

>>76953809
It says among OTHER permanents you control.
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>>76953851
Apologies I try not to read magic cards too much or else I get heartburn.
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>>76953878
Don't worry Anon, your 2 mana enchantment will still make like 10 mana over a few turns, then sit there doing half the job of a Phyrexian Arena for the rest of the game, apart from every now and then when it shits out 4-6 mana.
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>>76953730
Sorry but you got it all wrong, here is the official list

>Current Power 9
#1 - Punished Lurrus
#2 - Black Lotus
#3 - Ancestral Recall
#4 - Time Walk
#5-9 - Moxen
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>>76953910
Lurrus is above the power 9, after all I can put the P9 in my deck :^)
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>>76953823
Again you FUCKING retard the mechanic doesnt push Lurrus over Recall, its simply Wizard's ban philosophy in Vintage. If they didn't restrict cards then Recall along with a half dozen other cards more broken than Lurrus would be on that list. The only reason Lurrus beat them to the punch is Wizards went out of the way to not outright ban the other cards.
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>>76953949
Are you american perhaps?
Don't answer; We know the answer.
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>>76953910
Time Walk is incredibly overrated. An extra turn it only as good as what you can do with it. It's obviously very strong, but Oko is stronger than it, ESPECIALLY in a format like Vintage where relevant artifacts are everywhere.
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>>76953973
You forgot
>Elks ur mentor
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>>76953969
Im sorry you disgusting euros are too illiterate to even read Wizard's ban reasoning for Lurrus where they outright state its only because they cant restrict it.
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>>76953949
Anon, I know you can't restrict Lurrus. Wanna know why you can't restrict Lurrus? Because Lurrus is a broken card. The thing that makes Lurrus broken makes it the strongest card ever printed.
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>>76953969
I am American and I think Lurrus is the most broken card ever printed. I think it is just that retard being particularly stupid.
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GUYS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

PUNISHED LURRUS ISN'T STRONG

IT'S JUST THAT PUNISHED LURRUS IS SO BROKEN THAT IT WAS THE DECIDING FACTOR IN MOST GAMES AND IT HAD AN ABILITY THAT MADE IT UNRESTRICTABLE

BUT JUST BECAUSE LURRUS CONSTANTLY WON GAMES AND CAN'T BE RESTRICTED DOESN'T MAKE IT STRONG

:)
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>>76953799
>Castigate, sucka.
It's a 1 for 1, but you spent two mana, they spent zero. Unfavorable.
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>>76954023
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>>76952495
this is dumb but it still wouldnt see play in any color



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