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Previously:
>>76925536
>>76925536

>OFFICIAL Commander website, where you can learn the rules, see the current banlist, and read the OFFICIAL format philosophy, laid down by the rules committee:
https://mtgcommander.net/

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com

>Thread Question:
What is the favorite card you obtained for free? (Found, given as a gift, etc.)
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I love watching Shivamposter get snippy but, the moment he gets backhanded - silence. Keep being yourself, Smuggie.
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>TQ
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>>76937550
Don’t bring drama into the new thread, that just encourages the fag to continue.
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>>76937550
Make sure to wash your hands after you circlejerk.
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How much longer does this game have until we get a reset?
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>>76937600
Get rekt n00b.
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>>76937530
The same reason why they thought pic related was okay.
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>>76937586
What happends when a TCG dies? I read some stories about the VTM card game but i don't know much about it, do cards get more expensive? Forgotten? What about the community?
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>>76937499
your moms v card
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>>76937550
smuggie has cancer and will be dead soon
>>76937586
reset what with the game? You aren't being forced to play
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Real Brainlet Hours, will i draw a card if i bolt a stuffy doll whit this fella on board?
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>>76937631
When no new cards are made the supply dries up and the price crashes because there's no interest and there's no more paying tournaments.
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>>76937662
If it's you opponent's, yes.
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>TQ

Friends had a pile of mtg cards just laying around and I hadn’t played since mirrodin and not a lot. I really really love this guys art and asked if it was alright if I use him. They didn’t mind at all and were honestly kind of careless about it.

decided to build him as my first edh deck. I still have him constructed, just retired it. Turns are solitaire and I like faster gameplay. Still love this nigga though
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>>76937662
nope
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>>76937618
I dont play any of the formats on the file name, is there more to this than just being a 1 drop green counterspell with a cantrip?
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>>76937662
obviously it hits stuffy doll for 3 which can't kill it
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>>76937631
MTG is like The Simpsons...
It's been dead for long, yet it keeps going for a purely financial reason
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>>76937631
It varies from TCG to TCG, depending heavily on its' popularity.
If WotC announced TODAY that no more cards were being printed, then you can bet your ass that most cards would be devalued instantly. However, the reserved list, as well as other cards that had criminally small print runs, would hold value (and creep up) over time, since they're now guaranteed to be a collector's item.
Standard and Pioneer would die overnight. Modern, Pauper, and EDH players would linger for a long time, depending on their local groups, before moving on. Old School MTG and Cube would be completely unaffected, since they already are formats completely untouched by WotC or the greater Magic as a whole. Kitchen Table fun with friends would linger a while, as well, so long as people are interested.
In short; the average card becomes worthless and the majority of formats die, but the game would linger on in some form, forever.


>>76937692
That's true to an extent, but we know from the Harry Potter and Transformers TCGs that highly-sought-after cards retain their value well even long after a game has died. Even some OG Dragonball cards fetch quite a lot. Hell, even completely-unusable Yugioh cards from the Bandai game go for a fucking MINT.
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>>76937586
They're not going to reset the game at this point. They know they wouldn't have the goodwill to get people to sign on to Magic 2.0 after having all their collections wiped. It's the same reason there will never be a World of Warcraft II--people want to keep using their old things while also getting new ones. And, after 4e, WotC is fully aware that people will prioritize continuing to play with their extant toys if you push too hard.

>>76937631
I don't think we can really compare directly to TCGs that have died before. Most of them died due to failing to get fully off the ground or slowly losing their customer base, not slamming into a brick wall after dominating the market for two decades.
>What about the community?
Given that you're talking about a nonrotating fan-made format, a decent amount would still hang around even if WotC stopped printing cards tomorrow. But that also means that the game wouldn't really fully die--as long as people were still playing in some capacity, WotC could at any time decide to start printing cards again and pick up where they left off.
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>>76937662
If I remember Stuffy Doll correctly, it deals the relevant damage, not the bolt.
Assuming the Stuffy Doll was yours.
>creature... an opponent controls
>Giant, Wizard, or spell you controlled
You don't get it from the initial damage to your own Doll, and the Doll's damage is an ability of a non-Giant/Wizard permanent, not a spell.
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>>76937692
Maybe 1% of the playerbase has ever cared about paying tournaments.
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>>76937768
But that's what drives the collectors market
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>>76937662
>120.4a First, if an effect is causing damage to be dealt to a creature and that effect specifies that excess damage is dealt to another object or player instead, the damage event is modified to deal damage accordingly. Excess damage is damage greater than lethal damage that would be dealt to a creature. Lethal damage is the creature’s toughness minus damage marked on that creature and other damage being dealt to it at the same time as this damage. Any damage greater than 1 is excess damage if the source dealing that damage has deathtouch.
Lethal damage doesn't take into account whether or not a creature has indestructible. So, assuming you were talking about an opponent's Stuffy Doll, yes.
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So I found this cool dude in a pack, and have decided to make him my next commander, aristocrat burn theme.
So stuff like furnace celebration is excellent, tymaret the murder king, but I dont know to many cool things in rakdos colours, anyone got any spontaneous thoughts?
Also Kediss and some form unblockable can be instant win.
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There are more than enough cards printed that WotC could stop now and we'd be fine (and arguably better off for our format)
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>>76937802
That hasn't been true for a while now.
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>>76937809
claws of gix will do wonders for him
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>>76937809
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>>76937802
Patently false.
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>>76937802
I've seen many kitchen table players who absolutely refused to play with anything else than official, expensive cardboard. In fact the majority of people I've played with were spending a ton on the game, while never even as entering a LGS
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BRRRRRAAAAAAPPP
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>>76937838
I thought you were joking until i saw it said permanent and not creature, that is damn nice!
>>76937840
cracked one of these also, didnt realize the connection at the time. This card is already auto include
Thanks peeps, also what are some good sac targets? I know reassembling skelly, and Sanitarium skelly, but is it worth to put Squee in something like this or?
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>>76937719
At worse, you can use it as a 1 mana instant speed cantrip. At best it's a 1 mana counterspell that cantrips. Either way, it's never a dead card in most formats since blue is probably the most common color played in eternal formats.
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>>76937809
>key rakdos cards
Stormfist Crusader
Magus of the Wheel
Revel in Riches
Plaguecrafter
Mayhem Devil
Judith, Scourge Diva
Grave Pact (expensive)
Blood Artist
Priest of Forgotten Gods
Theatre of Horrors
Wound Reflection
Rite of the Raging Storm
Zulaport Cuthroat
Falkenrath Noble
Bastion of Remembrance

And of course the obvious Bedevil, Terminate, Dreadbore, etc
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>>76937920
>steal all the creatures on board
>swing out and delete someone from the game
>sacrifice everything so they don't get it back and Juri gets fuckhuge
If someone tries to remove him before he gets to swing again, you sacrifice him and dome them out as punishment.
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>>76937920
>>76937955
Forgot pic.
If you're running enough Grave Pact effects, Tergrid could also be spicy.
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>>76937499
>TQ
A friend gave me a french version of pic related on our last game night before he had to move across the country for work. I was trying to trade for it but I didn't have anything he was looking for so he just gave it to me as a parting gift. It has a fond place in my heart and my Feldon deck.
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>>76937920
Assemble the Legion and Grave Titan are both good picks
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>>76937954
Let's not forget the best B/R card

>>76937968
Nice. I still need to get a German version
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>>76938008
>Assemble the Legion
>Rakdos
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>>76938008
Dreadhorde Invasion, not assemble the Legion
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>>76938014
Oh an auto include in any BR deck

>>76938025
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>>76937499
I found a Conjurer's Closet once, but this was my favorite gift ever, back when she was only like $30.
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>>76937955
I have thought about this, the mob rule/insurrection, but is it better to have 1 big steal all, or many small targeted steals?
>>76937954
This is a nice list, Revel in riches can be really fun, and mayhem devil is just extra clean nice gravy. Thanks!
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How many ramp spells do I play In a landfall deck?

I’m at 14 direct ramp spells, 3 draw cards play an additional land type affects and 6 repeatable ways to bounce lands back to my hand, 4 static ways to play Additional lands.

My current payoff is avenger of zendikar/gruul omnath for token value and then finale of devastation with no real target so I’m just banking on x being 10 or more also mass manipulation as a side payoff

I can put craterhoof or endraze forerunner in as a target but waiting on mail

How do I best abuse omnath
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Post mail gets
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Why are the bond lands not included in every commander precon?
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>>76938027
>>76938025
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>>76937499
My LGS owner gave me the Commander's Arsenal oversized Sliver Queen recently as a gift.
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>>76938080
Same reason fetches aren't printed more often
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>>76937963
Tergrid could be fine spice, also do you know which god he represents?
>>76938008
You are not wrong
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>>76938080
jewery
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>>76938071
why buy tokens?
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Thoughts on this nigga?
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Why is a foil Seraph Sanctuary 10 dollars?
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>>76938204
Gigantic disappointment.
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>>76938059
These are the cards that I’ve cut sans lotus cobra which I don’t know what to pull out for it, should I keep phylath in if I already have avenger of zendikar?

Is nyxbloom ancient overkill when I only have 3 X spells? Hydroid krasis seems like an overall good card but idk if it’s worth playing because it’s just good, it has no other synergy in the deck and I’m already playing sphinx’s revelation and have a lot of card advantage enchantments/creatures already...

I play 13 ramp spells and 1 sylvan caryatid, I’m debating switching it for a lotus cobra but Idk if I’d rather have the guaranteed mana over having more value on something that can be Pinged out immediately...

I am playing 2 hard counters (neutralize and sublime epiphany) and then commit to memory can delay a spell but I play it more to get my cards back in case of a wrath. I think that elspeth conquers death is really good removal, in my any permanent removal slot I have detention sphere because I feel like the ability to kill a bunch of tokens is more valuable than elspeth conquers deaths 2nd and 3rd ability...

I think one of my more cheeky includes is risen reef with gruul omnath/zendikars took, its really fun when it works but idk if that’s just putting too much variance in it.

Any opinions on these maybes? Any ideas for some good tech?
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>>76938014
is rakdos charm literally the best of charms? Even the worst aspect of it is still high value
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>>76938204
biggest disappointment of pre FIRE cards
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>>76938071
No pic but I got all the stuff to build my Nevinyrral God tribal yesterday
>>76938186
Because terese nielsen made some based tokens, those ones aren't bad either but you need to clean your fingernails
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>>76938229
>>76938272
Is he at least good in the 99 to deter people from attacking you?
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>>76938231
I hate your fucking playmat
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>>76938204
Womp womp
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>>76938204
What 5c legends should've been, but now we have Kenrith, Golos, and their goodstuff ilk.
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>>76938225
TCGPlayer has it for 2 bucks

>>76938204
Walking disappointment

>>76938248
I'm a big evolution charm fan
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>>76938059
Nice angle on the photo, kinda what I'd expect from a landfall player.
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>>76938328
No, it doesn't. Check the actual listings for a nm one.
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>>76938204
hes literally only good as a "tutor" option as Scion of the ur dragon, and even then i think i rather drag out drakuseth or tyrants familiar 98% of the time rather than o-kagashit
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>>76938248
This one's one of my favorites
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>>76938248
I don't see any other charm played as often, so I would say it's definitely a contender.
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>>76938344
You never specified NM. I always grab HP
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>>76938204
It should have either been when O-Kagachi attacks a player or whenever an opponent attacks you with a creature. Either one would be fine, but this many hoops is absurd.
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ice age or cold snap snow covered mountain?
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>>76938248
Probably this or boros, but I love sultai charm, its nice and versatile.
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>>76937499
>TQ
Drafted Battlebond with a friend and ended up placing first. Bro said if he pulled related card he'd give it to me, and there it was.
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>>76938395
Why? Is it just because it's cheaper? Because when it comes to foils the damage shows up a lot worse so I always try to go for nm for foils.
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>>76938398
I agree. I mean, he's 6 cmc and 5 color, they could've pushed him a bit more.
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>>76938399
I prefer my lands with rules text but that might be just me
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Reminder that unless your commander comes from dominaria or kaldheim you shouldn't be using snow lands, use the lands from the plane your commander is from you animals.
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>>76938398
It should have been "whenever you or a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, exile target permanent that player controls."
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>>76938443
ya thats the thing, i dont really but i love the art
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>>76938474
but I like full-arts
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>>76938498
You like the full art snow lands? But why? Do you have a thing for ugin?
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>>76938480
I wouldn't mind a Karmic Justic legend

>>76938474
I mean I guess he's technically from Dominaria...
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>>76938231
Phylath is decent redundancy, a good keep if you're basic-heavy.
Nyxbloom Ancient is a bait winmore card in this deck IMO, only keep it if you have some free slots left. The Krasis is good value and a decent finisher should the game go long enough, your call if you think its worth it.
I actually think your ramp package is a little small for a dedicated lands deck. I'd try and squeeze the cobra in there without removing what's already there.
Your interaction suite sounds pretty small, I'd try and hit at least 10 in the list even if you have to cut some more "fun" cards.
Risen Reef is decent value, worth a slot if you have the space, not mandatory tech though.
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>>76938474
>90% of the cards in any non-craw/vorthos deck will never be from the same plane as the commander
>but those basic lands better be!

Why bother? Pick arts you like. Use chaff basics you have around. Use basics that have a unified mood or aesthetic, regardless of the set they're from.
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>>76938538
No, full-art in general, regardless if they're from my commanders plane.
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>>76938548
He's originally from Dominaria, and he's only in sets that are relevant to the broader narrative of Dominaria. He's definitely fine by that metric.
Anon got the tism though.
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>>76938474
>use the lands from the plane your commander is
Basics, sure, but so many non-basics are from random planes
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>>76938059
I play 24 hard land ramp cards in my ramp deck
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Is this the peak tribalfag card advantage?
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>tfw you get your deck so optimized so making a single cut for a new card takes hours of planning and play testing
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I just know this is gonna be used by a dude in my group and he will snap scoop if they get something even a little better than what he countered
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>>76938678
Maybe, but its blue, most tribal decks aint blue.
But this in a merfolk deck is probably nuts, with all their islandwalk/unblockable stuff.
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>>76938711
Tell him he’s not allowed to play the next game with your group if he pulls that shit?
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>>76938732
Wasn't it originally in Ur Dragon? I'd imagine it's really good in any tribes like dragons that are viable in 5c. Zombies, dragons... What else?
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So this is probably in the top 10 of greatest white cards ever printed..right?
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>>76938304
Why. I drew it myself.
Water spilled on it unfortunately but I like it a lot
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>>76938678
Vanquisher's Banner is cheaper and slightly worse but colorless
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>>76938732
>zombies
>ain't UB
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>>76938773
isnt the exile zone and adventure zone the same thing?
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>>76938755
5c or with blue** I worded that like a retard. Zombies arent 5c.
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>>76938751
He already does it any time shit doesnt go his way and I'm the only one who complains
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>>76938186
Got more pics?
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>>76938755
I have 3 different zombie decks that could run it, but I don't. There's plenty of good draw that's cheaper than a 5 drop.
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>>76938418
Is that the best version of the art?
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>>76938773
It's nice, Anon but
>playing cards with Companion or Adventure
ISHYGGDT
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>>76938820
Easily. The other arts are dogshit
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>>76938820
It is objectively the worst.
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>>76938773
I hate your layout
>removed from the game zones closer the the center than the GY
>no division between
>permanents that generate mana and permanents that can deal combat damage
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>>76938773
Even the dragon has a look on his face like "why the fuck do you have adventure and companion zones?"
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>>76938820
>best version of the art
like all cards its the original
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>>76938773
Are you going to add a new box for Foretell or just accept that these mechanics all go to exile?
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>>76938709
posted in the wrong thread. please halp
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>>76938833
>>76938835
This board never changes.
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>>76937499
God I want to use this bird so bad. Slot it right in my Derevi deck... but um... They don't work together. At all. Every other commander marginally benefits, but not that one.

What kind of decks work with the bird here? Foretell, yeah, great, what else? I'd say flash back or suspend but those are usually U, R, B and generally don't want to be running white at all. So what does work without hard shoehorning white into existing archetypes.
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>>76938843
Eh, I have a hard time playing the original version of Pattern of Rebirth over the UMA art. But in general I agree with you
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>>76938871
Elsha likes that bird a lot.
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>>76938766
For EDH, yes. It's in the top 20. Not sure it would make my top 10, but I haven't actually sat down and made a list.
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>>76938789
Yes and no. WotC uses the same "exile" language for all of these niche situations, but Adventures get exiled where you can still access them, while plain exiled cards have scant tools that let you interact with them and fewer to none still will ever be run by an average player. Having separate "Exiled but I can still access it" "Exiled for real" zones is reasonable.
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>>76938854
This and Nature's Revolt.
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>>76938843
Often true, but not in this case.
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>>76938854
>EVERYONE
Natural Affinity
>I just want to fuck over specific players
>old G Kamahl and old Jolrael
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>>76938899
That ignores the fact that those things that DO interact with general exile can fuck with adventure, foretell, and suspend. Hell, that's the entire reason that the first exile interaction cards were printed at all.
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>>76938826
Please use the doll to show us where where the Murderous Rider touched you.
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>>76938910
>wayne reynolds
Based, I love that guy.
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>>76938789
My opponents in my local area were confused enough times that I added it in, if something is on adventure it goes in the adventure exile, if it is exiled permanently I put it in the exile pile. It also helps that it made the boxes more pleasing to have 6 rather than 5.
>>76938826
I have lurrus in my burn deck but yeah I agree, adventure is a good mechanic though, nothing broken about it.
>>76938839
It started out as only library command zone, graveyard and exile, I added when it became relevant, hence the weird order, but yes I agree
Should I make a bottom 3rd division for mana? I might but I felt like it could box me into placing them a certain way, I tend to move my llanowar elves with my lands sometimes and my sol ring in my nonland permanents area, I don’t know why, maybe a dividing line would help with that
>>76938841
That’s fair
>>76938853
Depends on how relevant foretell becomes I suppose, if it becomes really relevant I might add it, but if it’s occasional then who knows
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>>76938910
The old art makes more sense with the cardname but I do like the newer art better on it's own. The hydra plaque makes no sense with the card name we should be looking at a scene of harvest season or something.
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>>76938900
>5 mana
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>>76938939
>>76938961
Adventure is fucking gay. One of the many reasons Eldraine is one of the most pushed sets ever with some of the most banned cards
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>>76937499
Not really free, but when rtr was in standard I traded a bunch of shit rares to a guy for a Geist of St. Traft, a Sphinx's Rev, two copies of Doran, and a Jitte.
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>>76939007
Holy shit it's grimace
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>>76938910
what the hell is even going on in the OG art? A bunch of crystals getting fondled by roots?
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>>76939007
>google image search
>the only result is this thread
Dear God...
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>>76938668
Can you elaborate on your list? I was playing 16 hard ramp spells but I found that combined with my fetches I ran out of basics too quickly, I’m only playing like 17 basics. I guess I’m focusing on land recursion over ramp, to get all omnath ability’s every turn even if my hand is empty, you know? I could be playing it wrong but I’d love to hear about your list
>>76938554
My interaction suite is currently heliods intervention, detention sphere, settle the wreckage, ondus inversion, mass manipulation, and if you count counters then neutralize, sublime epiphany, and commit to memory (not really a counter but interaction slot)

Do you have any recommendations or a list you run?
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>>76938900
>only 5 mana
Seems pretty good.
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>>76939061
I've seen it before

>>76938996
5cmc in green is like 3 cmc in any other color
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>>76938711
One time before the tuck rule I chaos warped a commander back into itself. I lit my only copy of chaos warp on fire. I don't regret it.
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>>76939005
Adventure is just a spin off of entwine, split cards etc, just that it has a permanent on the other end instead, I don’t think anything is unfair or broken about it and no adventure cards have been banned or as far as I know been problematic

The best adventure cards are brazen borrower and bonecrusher giant and I would hardly call them broken, at most bonecrusher giants static ability is a little pushed for a 3 drop
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>>76939108
>underpowered kamigawa legend
AAAAAAAAAAGHHH IM GONNA VOOOOOORTHOS!
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>>76939108
I'd play pic related if they ever printed lands as legendary.
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>>76939108
thats some fuckin delicious flavor text god damn
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>>76938938
If you run Riftsweeper as removal and not recovery, you're playing in a way more interesting meta than I've ever seen. It doesn't matter, You the player, will naturally care less about "this card got Path'd oh well, maybe next game" than "I Praetor's Grasped this and I actually intend to cast in one of these turns."

Those exiles serve different purposes, even if you could equally interact with them with the scant tools available.

I still don't think a player can interact with a card they own that I exiled face down with Praetor's Grasp. I could give that card back with some BFZ eldrazi because an opponent owns the card and it doesn't specify face up or face down, but the removal for Suspend cards specify "face-up exiled card".


White needs that "Exile all exiled cards" idea.
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>>76938961
>Should I make a bottom 3rd division for mana? I might but I felt like it could box me into placing them a certain way, I tend to move my llanowar elves with my lands sometimes and my sol ring in my nonland permanents area, I don’t know why, maybe a dividing line would help with that
Don't worry about it too much. I only pay attention to it because when I played as a kid I put my lands towards the top, like "it's the frontier between my territory and my opponent's territory, we have to cross those lands to attack each other." Then coming back to the game I realized nobody else did that.
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>>76938056
Dreadhorde Butcher also goes in any deck I make that has B and R
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>>76939313
Based Stratego Chad

>>76939228
Yeah, I shame that Kamigawa legends were as weak as they were flavorful
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>>76939352
>Based Stratego Chad
You give me way to much credit. I was a kid and my friend and his dad never corrected me about it. It was just how I imagined the "you're two wizards summoning creatures and fighting each other" narrative.
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>No Gruul yet
>Trolls are RG
>only 2 Trolls spoiled

They must be absolute ass.
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>>76939352
it feels bad sometimes. but honestly i like it. im a firm believer in function over flavor but i think its fine that theyre bad. i go by the
"the only truly bad cards are the ones you dont remember"
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What other cards could I use for a DOOM theme deck? Who's a good commander?
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>>76939431
I've tried this. I made Kresh my doomguy
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>>76938773

Not a fan of the zones drawn on it, but your dragon looks neat.
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Do you love angels?
>"Firja's Punishment"
>1WWB
>Enchantment - Saga
>I: Create a 4/4 Angel Warrior creature token with flying and vigilance.
>II: Until the end of turn, Angels you control gain "T: Destroy target creature with power less than the power of this creature."
>III: Angels you control gain double strike until the end of turn.
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>>76939554
>wish for angel support
>it's fucking orzhov
What did I do to deserve this?
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>>76938871
Pretty nice in Vadrok
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>>76939570
Angels are a WB tribe now
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>>76939596
But they're supposed to be white's iconic race. Why is wotc doing this? White and black are fucking enemies even!
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>>76939570
Touching yourself at night
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>>76939605
White is getting phased out of Magic
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>>76939570
>>76939605
I like my valkyries a bit black
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>>76937662
D_
TH_NG
DR_W
C_RD
>pat, I'd like to solve the puzzle
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>>76939614
But I don't do that, I stay pure for the LORD.
>>76939617
Why would they do that?
>>76939619
That's wrong, angels are supposed to be a primarily white tribe, there's no reason for them to be regularly cooperating with their enemy color. Back in my day angels specifically left out black because they dislike it so much.
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>>76937499
>What is the favorite card you obtained for free?
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>>76939645
Because white is r*cist
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>>76939645
Also
>inb4 muh alpha fallen angel
That shit's supposed to be rare as fuck, and the fallen angels from alpha were specifically angels who were mind controlled by a crown of thorns.
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>>76939617
This
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>>76937903
Little known fact: Assgas Dragon is considered a delicacy to zombies
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>>76939649
Based borbachad
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>>76938248
I'd say Boros and Golgari give it a run for its money
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>>76939675
Sorry, not crown of thorns, it's a horned halo. Which was a rare magical artifact that could be used to mind control an angel.
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>>76938204
I know some hate it when cards reference other cards that it appeared on, but if you're gonna make the trigger that obtuse, at least make the payoff tremendous.
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>>76939619
Is that Hrist?
Where is that from?
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>>76939468
Ooh he sounds pretty good, you've got a list? What sort of stuff did you run?
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>>76939418
It would definitely appear so. I hope there's a big dumb beater that slots in Xenagos well.
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>>76939758
>Is that Hrist?
Yes
>Where is that from?
The gacha game. She deserves a protagonist role in a new game
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Why is all of the Snow stuff in KHM just boring value plays and not flavorful things like pic related? Is focising on Sultai really having that much of a warping effect?
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>>76939865
>Focussing on sultai
Have you ungrateful whitefags forgotten the tutor that gains you snow life we bestowed upon you?
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>>76939704
I think we can all agree dimir is easily the worst
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>>76939865
This card looks too complicated for the average Standard player
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>>76939912
Oh thank the almighty wotc gods for such a boon. A whole 3 life for playing snow lands. Hazzah
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>>76939912
1. Not a Whitefag
2. Yes
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>>76939984
>A boon
Fuck you racist, guess we can't give you good stuff in the future. Asshole.
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Lads, we'll never achieve flavor of this caliber again, will we?
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>>76940043
Obviously not, what made you think we would in the first place?
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>>76940058
Blind hope, I guess
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>>76940043
lol no magic has been dead at a spiritual level for nearly a decade now
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>>76939865
Legit. There ain’t a single snow card that freeze anyone and weve yet to see what this magic silver bullet snow hate card is suppose to be. The fact that wotc devs keep gushing about snow lands only to ignore questions about how it’s being implemented and looking like it’s just here to power creep basic lands is kinda concerning.

Then again, Fleischer said the only reason they did it was because that’s what the focus groups said they wanted after modern horizons. Theyre slaves to marketers
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>>76940123
We'll see non snow hate this set, but no snow hate. I'd bet money.
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>>76939554
Its a good thing its 4 CMC so that it DOESNT WORK with the new Angel that recurs 3 CMC and below things from your graveyard. Yes, I know she sucks.
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How does it feel knowing that your format is the cancer killing magic, and that every disaster of a decision that WoTC has made for the last several years has been about getting the paypigs of your format to open their wallets?
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>>76939570
>oh no the angel support promotes running the best-looking angels
This is a fucking home run man
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>>76940171
Feelin' pretty good man, I hate wotc and I'm proud of being one of the people that helped kill their cash cow.
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>>76940165
>the new Angel that recurs 3 CMC and below things from your graveyard
The new angel only recurs things 2 CMC or lower. Even worse, the Orzhov angel legend of the set doesn't even do anything with angels and probably discourages an angel strategy overall since angels are high CMC generally so casting two in one turn is difficult.
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>>76939920
It's actually probably simic.
>combat trick sucks
>bounce sucks
>protection is middling and wont stop wipes like boros or golgari
Dimir at the very least has the capacity to cuckold top of library tutors which can be a powerful interaction, or destroy certain combo pieces. Feels weird to remember simic used to suck. If simic charm were printed today it would probably read
>counter target non creature spell or ability
>destroy target non creature permanent
>look for a land and put it onto the battlefield
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>>76939605
You know the best dragon tribal decks are multicolor, right? Despite that being red's iconic creature type?
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>>76940171
Shouldn't you be at /mmg/ yelling about merchants, blacks or something else?
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>>76940195
>running the best looking angels
What? But the best looking ones are all white anon. Also what's the point of making an angel deck if you're going to corrupt it with other lesser colors?
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>>76939675
>were specifically angels who were mind controlled
[Citation needed]
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>>76939645
>Back in my day angels specifically left out black because they dislike it so much.
Back in mine, they were black and brought in white when they felt like it.
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>>76940199
Sorry, but WoTC is only being rewarded for their bad behavior, thanks to you EDH-playing paypigs.

>>76940221
Maybe. But I decided to come down to this fucking shitpit to yell at you squealing paypigs.
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>>76940223
You're already running the least color, every other color is a step up.
I'm honestly a little sad they didn't go for full Mardu angel tribal, but doing color pairs instead of triads was probably the right call for the plane.
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>>76940227
>Fallen Angels were Serra angels, crowned with a Horned Halo, who were under the command of an Angel Keeper. Fallen angels tended to require sacrifices to remain strong. These were very powerful creatures, used by wizards as a means to gain more power. According to a Dominarian fable, an angel who dies as a fallen angel dies forever.
The most famous fallen angel was Trine. Another was controlled by the wizard Dreygar in the western Domains.
https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Angel
There are also angels of vengeance, which I hadn't noticed earlier, but they're still a rare exception, and it mentions them being forced to commit acts against their nature.
>>76940253
Wrong. Once again they were very rare, in fact I'm pretty sure that's the only one like that, can't remember any off the top of my head.
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>>76937499
>TQ
>A Worldwake JtMS, FRF Ugin, and 4 whole Commander 2016 decks
>Blogpost incoming
My old neighbor was an owner of an LGS that went out of business. He and his wife were nice, but we didn’t talk much. My wife and I played lots of MtG in our living room during college, so they could probably hear us coming and going. One night, we hear a knock on the door and it’s our neighbor. He just gave us the last of his Magic cards, as he wasn’t interested in the game anymore. He didn’t want any money, just for us to enjoy the cards.

I think he blamed MtG in part for why his store failed, as he wanted to cater to a different crowd but needed to lean on the game for income. If you happen to be a fa/tg/it, Rhett, I just want you to know we still play with all those cards. I actually have a functional UW Control Modern deck thanks to you. I hope you, your wife, and your rabbits are well.
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>>76940171
>your the ones killing the game!
>no its not WotC the people who print the things in the first place its you!
lmao gtfo faggot
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>>76940272
Yes I know, and eventually the game is going to crash and burn because of what they're doing, and I think that's a wonderful thing.
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>>76940291
>the source is a prerevisionist comic
kek
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>>76939645
Both white and black do life manipulation and angels do it a lot. You're going to have to learn to accept this.
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>>76940291
Didn't look very hard, did you, zoomer?
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>>76940320
Honestly I'm mainly just mad that they're printing angel support but now I can't use it because I don't play nonwhite colors. For flavor reasons I still think fallen angels are a shit trope, but that's not really as important because coomers love them.
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>>76940332
>abomination
Those milkers and pits suggest otherwise
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>>76940345
The black valkyries aren't fallen angels, though. They're just angels that are black.
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>>76940332
I didn't look at all, actually. Are there others? Or is it just those two?
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>>76940355
>Those milkers and pits suggest otherwise
based pitchad
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>>76940314
Is that the kind of shit you tell yourself when you're cracking open collectors boosters, paypig? That you're somehow going to teach WoTC a lesson by giving them the thing they want - your money.
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>>76940362
Yes and that is incredibly retarded. Angels don't become black unless they're fallen somehow, black and white are fundamental enemies, and angels are incarnations of white mana.
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>>76940165
>>76940200
Ugh, even fuckin worse than I thought. Fucking trash card.
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Remember when we all talked about the game instead of doomposting and complaining about art direction. When people would master a deck or come up with cool deck ideas?
I miss those days. It's all just
>jotc
>le tranny
>nigger
nowadays. Can't we just talk about the game and enjoy it anymore?

Do you guys have any deck ideas for Kaldheim? I was thinking of building a cheap UR tempo deck with Aegar, since turning bolts into cantrips seems decent, and you can jam Toralf+damage doublers since those work well with bolts.
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>magic art features a cute girl
>the card is shit
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>76940395
Nah I don't buy cards at all, and actively encourage others to play edh and not buy cards to try and fuck wotc. Fucking wotc is my only ambition when it comes to magic.
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>>76940419
Good in limited, one of the better draft commons in the set.
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>>76940417
as it turns out that if you want discussion around X and X just released an absolutely dogshit set then maybe discussion wont be all flowers and rainbows?
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>>76940355
>armpitfag
Talking about abomination
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>>76940417
If they release any good angels I can actually use then I might add them. Still not sure tho, I really don't like this set and I'm considering adding it to the "do not use cards from this set" list along with ikoria and eldraine.
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I actually really dig the valkyrie aesthetic. This is the first time I've really been tempted to build a tribal deck.
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>>76940332
Wow three black angels and five Orzhov before Kaldheim and Commander legends. Totally comparable with the 135 in mono white.
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>>76940496
why bright purple and bright blue tho
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>>76940501
Funnily enough there are more monowhite angels than there any other properly colored monocolored cards of any other iconic. Except demons, wotc for whatever reason never makes nonblack demons, and rarely makes them multicolored.
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>>76940533
Speaking of multicolored demons, considering there's a D&D Forgotten Realms set coming up, will get get rakdos demons and orzhov devils?
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>>76940400
And also black mana
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Now this here... this looks like fun. And a reason to finally use my thoughtseize in commander.
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>>76940501
Nobody said that there were as many black angels as there were white. Just that black angels have always, in some capacity or another, been around. They aren't breaking any fundamental rule of the setting because the setting has always allowed for these things.
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>>76939038
That's actually my peenus weenus early in the morning when I'm waking up
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>>76940417
I'm going to put together an orzhov Angels deck. Its probably going to be shit, but I'm going to do it, damn it!
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>>76940586
No. Only if they're fallen corrupted angels. That's the previously established rule.
>>76940603
Exactly, and every single black angel in the past was a corrupted angel of some form.
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>>76940625
So it was always possible for an angel to exist that consisted entirely of black mana. Meaning that being an incarnation of pure white mana was never a requirement of being an angel. These angels just come into existence in that state, which is a state that angels have always been able to exist in.
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>>76940598
>or discards
Holy fuck I thought it was just It That Betrays text. That's fucking bananas. And its an infinite mana sink. This is going to be the default mono B goodstuff commander from now on huh?
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>>76940519
;^)
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>>76940641
Yes they come into existence as mono white, and it can be corrupted or subverted, but I thought you said the black kaldheim angels weren't corrupted or anything, just that was how they were formed, which is breaking the rules, because up until now it took powerful magical corruption to make an angel monoblack.
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>>76940625
The lore about corrupted angels all refers specifically to Serra angels, which weren't even naturally-occurring. They were actively constructed by someone making white mana golems, and so don't represent any kind of universal constant.
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>>76940618
What is even the theme of Kaldheim Angels?
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Will we be getting a Ymir or some other kind of giant king? What would you want it to do?
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>>76940721
Metal
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You guys wanna hear a joke?

Tiny Leaders
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>>76937662
>>76940726
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>>76940740
>Tiny Leaders
whats that?
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>>76940645
It seems like the kind of commander i build the deck around but that costs 5 mana and gets removed instantly after i cast it, leaving me to do nothing 70% of the games, where the other 30% i just win instantly as everyone concedes
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>>76940750
I don't think an uncommon is going to be the legendary giant payoff.
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>>76940683
I dunno man, it's just fucking weird seeing non corrupted monoblack angels. Also I'm pretty sure it's the norm for them to be white Mana constructs, at least last I checked. They're basically speshul elementals but for white iirc.
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>>76940682
Different plane, different rules. It's previously been established that angels can exist as mono-black, so there's no reason that they couldn't come into existence in that state on some planes.
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>>76940763
Assuming you're not being sarcastic, it's 1v1 commander but you can only use commanders and cards with CMC 3 or less, 25 life and 50 card deck.

It was a hot meme for less then a year before dying without a trace cause the format was solved in less than a month and just devolved into midrange goodstuff.dec the format
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>>76940771
You have too high hopes
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>>76940740
I was the guy who invented Tiny Leaders. It sucked to see it take off with such enthusiasm to then be snuffed out by internet turbo spikes.
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Got a thumping great mail haul today. Though I feel the need to point out I ordered the R. Skely and Sign on 12/6. Mail delays are real.
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Name a more cringe EDH color identity than monoblack. Protip: you can't.

Call Izzet decks reddit all you want, but it's objective fact that every mono black deck uses the same shell of 60 cards and most times their commander is interchangeable with just about any other black commander.

Better but in my Urborg! Ooo, and all these mana doublers, and 15 tutors, and Necropotence, and grave pact, and oh right I gotta end the game EPIC STYLE with Exsanguinate!
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>>76941139
That's wrong, because all monochads are based.
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>>76941139
>projecting
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>>76941139
see >>76941157
also everyone knows 4 color is the most cringe
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>>76941173
Saskia tho
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>>76941201
Saskia get a pass because she's nonblue
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>>76941139
It depends, if it's a deck with Shirei at the helm, then it's based. If their commander is something generic like Erebos, then I'm cringing hard
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>>76941139
The only thing cringe about black is people who run too many tutors. But mono anything is based, even blue.
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>>76941139
Monowhite. At least blackfags don't spend hours whining.
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>>76941139
>t. Mono W player
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>>76940496
>places angry black lady in your path
I like the blushing cutie in the background tho
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>>76941332
What do you get when you cross a mono white player with a company that abandons him and treats him like trash?
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>>76941380
a soiboy?
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Reminder that it's physically impossible to play monocolor and for it to not be based. The only color combos that get close are shards and only if you're playing legends elder dragons, but mono color captures the spirit and flavor of the game best.
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>>76941393
No, you get a racist. People only play white because they're racist.
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>>76941261
What about Syr Konrad? I'm currently building him for mill and mass reanimation.
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>>76941406
>muh spirit of edh
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>>76941380
An easily-baited source of entertainment.
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>>76941380
I bet you use Crusade and Cleanse you wh*ite supremist
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>>76941434
Faggot
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>>76941431
I tried playing him in brawl for a while. He's pretty cool. Don't forget effects that shuffle graveyards back into libraries.
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>>76941431
what I meant basically, is that black decks are perfectly fine if you use a commander you have to actually build your card choices and gameplan around
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>>76941332
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>>76941487
It only just clicked that Cauldron of Eternity causes him to consistently trigger twice per creature death.
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>>76940496
This looks like generic MCU shit
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holy shit why did no one tell me about this?
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>>76941616
I generally find the card to be super hit or miss. It seems amazing when you start the game with this turn 1 with 5 lands in hand, then you realize you only have 2 real cards in hand and you're stuck either putting our your commander early, or twiddle your thumbs drawing cards to actually play
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>>76941616
Get out while you can, newfag.
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>>76941616
Just wait till you see this
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>>76941616
If you don't draw it in your opening hand with at about 4 lands it does nothing. And that's half your hand gone.
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>>76941616
Because green is gay.
But, Burgeoning, any landfall trigger, field of the dead, and just play Oboro, Palace in the cloud every damn time they play a land.
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>>76941692
And?
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>>76941528
I'm on the fence about adding it though. You get 2 triggers but it also stops its own reanimation engine. Very situational.
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>>76941616
I wonder if green is the most autopilot kinda mono color deck to play out of the 5 or if that’s still red.
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>>76941659
>>76941692
Honestly, I find the best results for mana ramp with this card being having only 3 or so lands in hand rather then like 4 or 5 lands. You don't need 100% full value from a card to make it worth it, and getting to play 2 or 3 extra lands is plenty enough to set you up for the rest of the game.
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>>76941743
You run out of gas quickly and it's a dead draw pretty in pretty much every situation other than the opening hand.
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>>76941853
Not in a deck that can abuse it
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>>76941853
>Running out of gas
Then you should have ordered more! Those simic players aren't gonna gas themselves.
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>>76941921
Sorry dude. The best ramp cards are still the land tutors and Exploration. If you devote your hand to playing lands youll just be stuck playing one spell per turn off the top of the library.
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YETI! I AM THE YETI!
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>>76941616
Because it's useless outside of your opening hand
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W4a25ty1Ao
how bad is it gonna be?
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>>76941616
It looks better than it is, especially for landfall decks. Since you can only put them into play from your hand, it's basically useless after the early game, as a lot of your landfall triggers in the mid- and late-game are going to come from recurring various flavors of fetchland. The lands coming down on your opponents' turns means you won't be able to line up your triggers advantageously. It really just doesn't end up pulling its weight.
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>>76940355
I kneel...
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>>76942061
Honey bear, that card is a legit engine in my Tatyova deck.
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>>76942270
You found it, you watch and tell us.
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>>76942270
what is the question here exactly?
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>>76942270
Imagine shilling your YouTube channel on 4chan
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>>76941173
>everyone knows 4 color is the most cringe
Truth. C16 is still a colossal failure in my eyes, in all fronts except maybe the quality of reprints.
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>>76939912
maybe if you didn't put a tranny on it
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>>76941173
>>76942305
whats wrong with 4colors and c16?
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>>76941139
>not UGx
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Say what you will about Kaldheim, these guys are kino.
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>>76940272
>edh paypigs
aren't you tourney tismos the ones paying $200 for the latest FIRE playset so you can feel like in a big boy game
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>>76942318
4 color decks have always had a troubled history being played by snowflake faggots who think they're kewl and epic playing the nepilims, and they multiplied after c16. As for the actual 4 color commanders, pretty much all of them were extremely muddled in design and played more like 3 color decks with a vestigial limb handing off the side and generally brought nothing new to make 4 color identities their own unique playstyle.
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>>76940417
maybe if the devs weren't talking aout that shit 24/7
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>>76942318
from cringe to based its
mono > 5C = 2C > 3C > 4C
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>>76940272
>finally realizing other formats but EDH were shit
seethe
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>>76942318
Both brought about the age of Partners, for one. They butchered certain lore characters in giving them a Partner card, ESPECIALLY Ludevic. Further, Atraxa and Breya are absolute cancer Commanders that have never once helmed an interesting deck that people like playing against.
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>>76941139
tell us where the torment of hailfire touched you
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>>76942423
3C is the soul of EDH, fuck off with your bad take
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>>76942395
>played by snowflake faggots who think they're kewl and epic
isn't being a snowflake the entire purpose of this format?
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>>76942318
None of the 4 Color combos have a soul. They have nothing to establish an identity on.
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>>76942395
>mad at a color combo because the people he plays with are bad

imagine being this person
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>>76941511
hu, who would have thought
makes him way less cancerous >>76940598
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>>76942453
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>>76942454
No, slamming down big shit you can't get away with in competitive formats is.
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>>76942478
Laugh all you want, I'm still correct
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>>76941425
and?
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>>76942437
It's probably one of the faggots around here who posts anti mono black bait semi-regularly. I was the main target for it for a while, until some anon kindly pointed out I was being an idiot and falling for it every time.
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>>76942492
3C (with the exception of jund) is absolute cringe broski
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>>76940417
You can't blame MTG generals on /vg/ and /tg/ bitching about this 24/7 when WotC decided to both politicize the game and go mega turbo jew at the same time. You're delusional or a shill if you say otherwise
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>>76942507
Says who, Zack fucking Ryder? You don't have to like 3C, but you have to respect its importance to the format.
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>>76942536
>You don't have to like 3C, but you have to respect its importance to the format.
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>>76942563
Stay mad, double nigger
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>>76942581
imagine needing 3+ colors to be able to play kek
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>>76942611
Who said I can't play mono or dual? They're fine too.
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>>76942581
kek laugh at this he probably plays gay shit like naya or abzan
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>>76942497
kek just right in time when I was deciding on a mono black commanders. Post cool ones and how they play. Picrel looks damn kino but utter jank also.
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>>76937809
Tutor / Godo for grafted exoskeleton and sac him to deal 10 poison to the table
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>>76942633
Wrong and wrong.
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>imagine calling each other cringe instead of uniting ourselves against the actual faggy combination: 5C
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>>76942633
HAHAH imagine playing naya. Oh no you're gonna kill me with a candy cane and a santa hat noo
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>>76942672
I think the idiot and I can both agree on that.
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>>76942672
5C is fine so long as its 5C dragons
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>>76942683
Damn, that's a sick burn for an autist.
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>>76942318
With relatively few exceptions, everything in the game is spread across at least two colors. Sure, in a number of those cases, the secondary color does a pretty poor imitation of the primary color, but there's still some capacity for it that exists outside of the primary color. When you get up to four colors, you can pretty much do almost anything in the game, with only a handful of things that you do slightly worse than five color. You don't have any real weaknesses to cover, and you don't have to make any major compromises: you can just play goodstuff.
Then, rather than giving the decks any kind of real focus, they made all the commanders either incredibly generic or just an extant three-color archetype with an additional color tacked on. Atraxa and Breya are the best-known ones from the batch...and Atraxa is just a pick-your-poison smorgasbord of cancer, while Breya is just Sharuum but with red. The partner combinations are also intentionally generic so that you can combine them however you want, but they don't give you anything to really grab onto.
And, flavorfully, four-color is just a mess. Every color shares some conceptual space with each other color, which strengthens the flavor of color pairs and, indirectly, trios. Black and green share conceptual space related to the survival of the fittest, the cycle of life and death, and pragmatism above idealism. This tells us something about the flavor of BG as a color combination, but also tells us something about URW as a color combination--it cares more about individual refinement than about dominance, preserves rather than recycles, and places the pursuit of ideals above all else. That doesn't work with four-color--when the only color you're missing is black, you've parceled up most of black's concepts and gotten at them from slightly different angles.
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OFFICIAL COLOR COMBO RANKINGS

>Based:
Mono red
Mono white
Selesnya
Orzhov
Rakdos
Dimir
Boros
Grxis
Naya
Esper
Bant
Mardu
Temur
5 color
>Cringe:
Mono green
Izzet
Gruul
Golgari
Azorious
Jund
Jeskai
Abzan
>Ultra Cringe:
Mono blue
Mono black
Simic
Sultai
4 color
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>>76942695
>>76942702
i too accept this middle ground
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>>76942637
Take your pick. I've got lists for all of them and more.
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>>76942757
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>>76942784
Is drana new?
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>>76942784
is that a loliana foot fetish deck? i have one too
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>>76942757
>i have two based and two cringe by this chart
Eh, I'll take it.
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>>76942791
>t.
>>76942784
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>>76942757
>mono green
>cringe

>dimir
>grixis
>esper
>naya
>bant
>temur
>mono white
>based
I have never seen taste this shit in my life
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>>76942784
Do you just proxy Cabal Coffers then?
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>>76942757
>esper
>based
some of the biggest faggots in EDH play Oloro
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Color combinations can't reasonably be ranked, as it is possible to build a based deck in any color combination as long as you have a strong theme that you stick to instead of just devolving into goodstuff or DTDC.
(Note that this may be purely theoretical in the case of Simic and Sultai, but the math holds.)
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>>76942390
It doesn't cost me any money to play cube, paypig.
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>>76942784
damnn that's some devotion
How does lili play? I like her concept a lot but must be tough protecting a walker in commander?
how did you build erebos? I currently want to make a discard deck but I can't make up my mind if I want Nath for that or any of these and build another monoB theme
how's yawgmoth? seems super fun
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>>76942875
And some of the bigger ones play Sharuum.
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>>76942384
I don’t get what’s the plan with changelings

Everyone seems certain that the only way for Draft to work with tribal decks I’d by playing changelings but Kaldheim only had Blue/green ones? Does that not stack the odds in favor of any blue/green coloured tribal decks?
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>>76942830
i don't fancy myself that based but thanks
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>>76942784
Do you have like 8 copies of urborg, demonic tutor, etc or share them all between your decks?
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>>76942934
>Does that not stack the odds in favor of any blue/green coloured tribal decks?
All according to WOTC's plan
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brehs I just bought every ajani except for vengeant so I could build a meme ajani tribal deck.
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>>76942812
Drana is Vampire Waifus. She is the newest, but not that new. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/vampire-waifus-2/

>>76942819
Nope, zombies. Are there really enough Mono Black cards out there with prominent feet to make that deck?

>>76942846
Yes, actually. I bought a real one long time ago, and it's useful, though not really integral to any of my decks.
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>>76942924
neither does playing commander you nanny trigger
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>>76942926
If you think that's impressive, I've got 20 more Mono B lists in various stages of completion. Liliana is my oldest and dearest deck, Mono B Zombies. Deck doesn't really rely on her, but she's very useful.
Erebos is Board Wipes and Lifedrain, featuring all the single target ones like soul burn, and obviously exsanguinate/ToH.
Yawgmoth is Infect, and kinda mean. I save him for randos, he's a little mean for my playgroup.
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>>76942958
>he's a furfag AND a walkerfag
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Fine you faggots, lets go one by one for each color/color combo and rate them democracy style to form a /edhg/ approved ranking list, settling this once and for all.

Lets start simple.
>Mono red

I vote based
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>>76943033
mono red is based
my vote is mono green as 2nd most based
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>>76943033
Hell yeah based
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>>76943033
>democracy
I vote cringe
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>>76942757
Mono white chads, where are we?

Post your mono white commanders.
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>>76943033
Mono red is based.
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>>76942950
Urborg isn't actually in most of these. I put coffers and lake of the dead in each, but that's about it. I prefer some variety in my decks. Also pretty much no tutors in anything.
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Alright anons, post mail.
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>>76943060
I love angels! Who's your mono white commander, my guy?
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>>76943060
I vote mono white as cringe
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>>76943033
>>76943047
>>76943060
I vote mono red and monogreen based, and mono white cringe.
I vote mono black based
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>>76943060
>Mono white chads
Contradiction in terms.
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>>76943033
Red is based. Always relevant without becoming degenerate
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>>76943135
>Always relevant without becoming degenerate
the only time red is cringe is with goblins
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>>76943090
>>76943134
Who as cringe?
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>>76943029
which would you say are the most casual? and the most fun?
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>>76943079
Pic related
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>>76943162
Most casual is probably King Macar Vehicles or Drana Vampire Waifus. Most fun is Liliana, zombies are my favorite tribe.
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>>76943200
Nice, he's one of my favorites. Also love his art, the way the stone is done looks like some sort of fancy border.
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>>76943033
Pretty unanimous.
Green check for based, red x for cringe.
Next
>mono blue

Cringe imo
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>>76943299
i vote cringe
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>>76943299
I'm not gonna do that, I'll just say it is based. Also count me as a vote for all monocolor being based,
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>>76943299
Cringe
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>>76943299
mono blue is cringe
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>>76943067
Dangerously based
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>>76943221
okay, last one. Do you think erebos can do well in the GUx hellscape I play?
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>>76943299
Ill wait longer when we hit the more controversial colors.

Next
>mono green

Based
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>>76943375
based
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>>76943375
Based
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>>76943375
based
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>>76943375
Based but only if using a kamigawa commander.
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>>76943373
That I can't tell you, not knowing your meta. He is among the stronger of my decks. Take a look.
https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ereboss-big-black-dck/
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>>76943375
Based.
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>>76943339
Thanks. Old foils are kino
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>>76943375
>mono black

Cringe, literally 90% same deck everytime
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>>76943467
agreed its boring as fuck and the same thing every game
I vote mono B as cringe
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>>76943375
Mostly based. Its when you combine it with blue is when it becomes cancer.
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>>76943467
I like mono black, it's pretty cool. Lots of kino flavor from back in the day.
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>>76943467
might need a new thread to continue this
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>>76943467
Agreed as well. Toshiro is the only mono black deck thats really stuck around for me because I can at least kill shit rather than durdle until I find coffers
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>>76943467
Based.
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>>76943467
It's cringe
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>>76943467
Double Based. Fuck you.
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>>76943467
>>76943375
What the fuck, are you niggers serious, mono green, based? No fucking way. You mean to tell me shit like this or that bard guy are based? With what they've done with green, its inherently cringe, fuck off.
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>>76943515
tranny detected
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>>76943515
Every single mono color is based. We don't even need to be going over the mono colored ones, let's just mark em all based and move on.
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>>76943525
>greenigger apologist
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>>76943550
>>76943550
might want to continue in next bread
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>>76943556
Ya ill move it to next thread
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>>76943515
I voted based for green just because of simple strats like big smash, same reason black is based imo, though we do need a sub-based or sub-cringe category for specific commanders down the line.
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>>76942611
>play a 3 color commander
>it's actually mono
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>>76942611
the OG elder dragons were 3 colors
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>>76943467
There are a lot of good stuff black decks, but also some interesting unique strategies. A lot of variance.
I'll be optimistic and vote based.
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>>76942757
i have five based decks, two cringe (one is going to be switched to another cringe), and an ultra cringe that will end up being just a cringe.
averages out to be moderately based
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>>76938231
>lotus cobra not already in the deck
>cutting nerfed harrow out of landfall deck
>cutting counterspell in deck with blue in it and then playing even worse versions of it
>playing trash like seer's sundial when cards like tatyova exist
>even considering 5 mana sorcery speed removal that doesn't even hit everything, when at those rates you should be playing boardwipes like wrath of god, austere command or almost anything else
jfc



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