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How do adventuring parties stay hygienic and smelling nice? Or do people just not perspire in le fantasy land?
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>>76902341
Cantrips
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We rest at an inn or tavern when we're tired of traveling, we take care of ourselves there and freshen up so we can head to our next destination without feeling like we're on a death march.
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>>76902341
Soap
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>>76902520
what if that doesn't exist?
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>>76902341
Apparently people bathed once a week or some shit back in the day. I've also heard of people living straight dirty hippie style build a biome that stops them smelling like shit. I've met enough to believe it. I suppose after going through monster guts you bathe.
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>>76902341
They wash themselves when coming across a body of water or an inn. What the fuck is the point of this thread? Did you hope people would start posting stories about adventurers smelling like shit that you could fap to?
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>>76902573
Than that means the fantasy world we live in is more fucked and doomed than normal. If nobody is making even basic cleaning supply's or any other non vital goods other than food and weaponry. That must mean that the whole world is at war with the monsters such as dragons and orcs. And not only is the world at war with the beasts of the world we are losing it badly. So us adventures and heroes of the world need to get up off our asses and save the day.
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>>76902341
Remove Smell and Grime is actually a cantrip for all spell casters. It's so ubiquitous it's not even a listed spell, it's just assumed the spell caster is using it on the party constantly.

Also realistically everyone in a medieval not-Europe setting should smell pretty pungent even if they bathe semi-regularily. The one thing foreign people always remarked about Europeans after encountering them was the massive stench. When everything stinks of horse shit and freshly tilled peat you don't notice the people smell as much.
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>>76902341
Bad smell comes from bacteria, not sweat.
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>>76902341
They perspire, but it doesn't smell bad because bodily waste doesn't exist. Still, fragrance is a bit of a status symbol, so many people focus on getting the most expensive perfumes and bath oils to smell rich.
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People did bathe back then and even took care of their teeth, they even had *bathhouses.

* Though a apparent problem they had with them was they often became brothels in some cases.
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>>76902797
I meant to add to this, I live near Amish people and they wash regularily but they still have a very distinct, like earthy smell to them. I don't know how to describe it. It's not a bad smell, but it's really noticeable. It's kind of like how Indian people have a specific smell. Some cultures are just stinkier than others and they tend not to notice because EVERYONE smells like that.
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>>76902573

Soap is one of the oldest inventions of humanity.
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>>76902341
>How do adventuring parties stay hygienic and smelling nice?
They don't
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>>76902920
based
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>>76902811
bacteria clings to sweat and hair, retard
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>>76902573
Oils
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>>76902835
Going one step further, as someone who lived outside the west for about five years: we smell too. Like, coming back was an absolute trip when I found the local Asian food store smelled more familiar and "clean" than my friends' homes.
It's all psychological, and has less to do with actual cleanliness than we might think.
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>>76902341
In our party's case we just find a pond and cast Aunty's Bath. Great spell, the flavor text is adorable too.
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>>76903993
Does it jerk me off if I put my dick in it?
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>>76902341
My character always smells like sex
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>>76904044
>unseen hands scrub upon all living matter in the water
Unironically im pretty sure it would. Any body of water so just fill a bucket and get a free Handy-J
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>>76902573
Soap, in some form or another, has existed for over 3,000 years. If your setting doesn't have it, it fails basic verisimilitude tests.
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>>76902341
I bathe every day and after every battle
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>>76902797
>Remove Smell and Grime is actually a cantrip for all spell casters. It's so ubiquitous it's not even a listed spell, it's just assumed the spell caster is using it on the party constantly.

What happens if you deny them this luxury as a punishment? Haha.
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>>76902365
>>76902520
This.
Hells, you can conjure up a rubber duck with a cantrip.
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>>76902710
It's actually plausible to request a bath at every inn you rest at. The owner isn't going to complain, you probably smell like death.

>>76902797
Prestidigitation actually explicitly says it cleans objects.
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>>76902365
First post best post.

Any setting that might care about this to a degree that matters is one that has a simple magical solution an adventurer or murder hobo can reasonably have.
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>>76902341

Bro, as a black dude who visited Japan, it was fucking hilarious how many people I saw doing this exact same motion when I visited

>inb4 "YOU STINK"

I showered almost twice a day and always made sure to wear DO. Japanese people are just racist af (Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy my time there or don't want to return)
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>>76909782
To be fair you probably actually did stink, at least to them. The same part of the brain that's responsible for racism is also responsible for smelling and game design.
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>>76909782
>...always made sure to wear DO
What kind did you use?
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>>76909948
Irish Spring

>>76909894
Yes, I did stink to them in the sense that I was black and they assumed I stunk. However, if they had been blindfolded, they would've only smelt my shampoo and do
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>>76909894
>smelling and game design.
what
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>>76903150
You can sweat and not stink you animal.
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>>76902835
adding to >>76903715 its mostly diet (and other odd things like apparently East Asians don't have a thing in their armpits that causes BO smell)
know how pajeets smell like curry? Well white people smell like cheese
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>>76910953
games are racist
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>>76909782
You did.
Blacks exude a stronger odor naturally, and like all natural body smells it sticks to hairs.
Shave body hair in crevices.
Use a mix of 1:5 vinegar-water to rinse between your legs, let sit for a minute, then dry with a clean towel and apply lightly scented talcum powder or a silver bases deodorant before you go out to all crevices.
Do the same in the evening except replace talcum powder with coconut oil, allowing it to soak in while you sleep.


It's requires a bit adjustment but it's very rewarding. Eventually one picks up on one's own improved smell and others will react subconsciously, especially those you sleep with.
https://www.thecut.com/article/best-natural-deodorant.html
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>>76902341
From personal experience, you stop noticing it after a week of camping when the smoke, sweat and dirt accumulates that much.
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>>76912567
I've been around some stank ass white people, dude. Literally smell like rotting fucking cheese. I really don't think it's a black thing.
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>>76912604
It's not clean cut.
X can be Y and Y can be X.
Tendencies aren't rendered irrelevant by exceptions.
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>>76902341
I always just thought it was something that just happened. Not everything needs to be roll played. we don't need to eat up like 40 minutes of a session every session for bathing and rolling for something as basic as washing yourself is retarded too.
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>>76902341
>How do adventuring parties stay hygienic and smelling nice? Or do people just not perspire in le fantasy land?
Well.
My settings usually have an extremely high level Mediterranean + Turkic + Japanese style bathing culture so whenever there's a stop near civilization the rush to get a thorough scrub and soak in.

Once I can run games again I'll probably suggest one of the stronger PCs picks up chiropractic and massage skills so he can properly get his party's bones cracking.
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>>76902365
There is a reason why Prestidigitation is probably the most-selected cantrip despite being useless in combat.
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>>76902341
Our spaceship has a full bathing facility on board complete with it's own artificial Onsen.
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>>76909782
Japanese are VERY sensitive to smell.
They even hire people to track down sources of bad smells. Smell Detective is an actual career choice in Japan.
Not making this up.
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>>76902341
Nobody gives a shit because they've all got healthy microbiomes and good diets, combined with the fact that olfactory senses are highly adaptable.

Seriously, sweat in itself doesn't smell that much unless something is wrong.
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>>76902826
>me on the left with the lute
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>>76902797
>the massive stench
And vice versa. Different races seem to have different microbiomes and shit, which is why black people smell awful to whites, which they themselves don't notice at all.
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>>76902573
you can use my cum
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>>76902341
sponge/rag baths.
>get a bucket of water, soap and a rag.
>wash your face.
>soak the rag.
>wipe down your body for general dirt and dust.
>soap up your hands, clean your pits, taint, and ass. in that order.
>dump the bucket on your head to rinse everything off
>walk around naked for a few minutes to dry off, or if you are feeling fancy, use a towel.
the only things you really need to worry about are your face, pits, and taint/asscrack. The face because people can see it, and the pits and asscrack because they can rub and you can get a rash if things get too slimy or gritty.
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>>76902341
>How do adventuring parties stay hygienic and smelling nice?
They don't.
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They bathe in perfumed oils. Theyre not clean. They just mask the scent of awfulness unsuccessfully
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>>76912604
>I've been around some stank ass white people, dude. Literally smell like rotting fucking cheese.
This is me. I clean my armpits and groin with rubbing alcohol, but the smell always comes back in a few days. Some people are just cursed.
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>>76913439
hey wait a minute
you're not supposed to have to fill out all of the squares on a captcha
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>>76913639
Man, I've been on this site enough to see necrophilia and heros, but I never thought I would see a murder in real time.
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A wizard fixes it
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>>76914055
>in a few days

Consider daily application of warm water, soap and deodorant, Anon.
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>>76915231
The alcohol is on top of daily washing, obviously. The smell is still there even immediately after a shower.
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No, I don't waste other peoples time on describing how my character wipes his ass on a leaf or making sure to mention that my character pulls back the foreskin to clean his cock.
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>>76902341
Soap and hair lime.
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>>76916266
>Soap and hair lime.
How expensive would that be?
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>>76902341
Grooming kit, optional courtesan kit, collapsible bathtub or at the very least a bucket, and some type of magic to produce water are a shared feature among all of my characters, even if they won't become relevant at any point since most DMs don't care.
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>>76902341
Bathing off-screen.
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>>76912604
> I really don't think it's a black thing.
He just said it is. Like, race memes aside, different races and even different groups within races can sweat differently due to different sweat glands. There's even an anime with a running joke where the cute white girl stinks to the other girls because picture related. Certain asian groups, including the Japanese, just have less smelly sweat (and dry ear wax I think?) so to them other races just stink more when they sweat.
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>>76902520
trusted you.
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>>76902826
Bathhouses had always been like that. The archetypical Roman bathhouse was like an indoor strip mall, gym, forum, and meeting hall. Very loud and crowded. Vendors hawked wares, people with bones to pick gave speeches, andd yeah, there were a lot of whores.
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>>76902341
Magic, perfumes, or y'know, just bathing like a normal person. When professionals and historians say hygiene was shit back in the day, they don't mean personal hygiene, they mean shit like medicinal practices, infrastructural deficiencies, etc. People have always been keen on keeping their bodies clean and dirt-free as possible, except that one time in post-renaissance Europe where everyone decided personal hygiene was a spook.
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>>76911059
>>76919751
>east asians lack musk
weak
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My character just smells like a charnel house most of the time.

I managed to clear a tavern out because I'd picked up a bunch of dead, mutated animals I wanted to show the party, and someone took several hours longer to show up than expected.

No one had the guts to ask what the smell was as my bag started to go rank, so they all quietly left instead.

The bag in question wound up incinerated shortly thereafter.
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>>76902341
It's very rare that you don't access to water, you know. Or you could be an elf and always look and smell good.
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Do elves smell?
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>>76925285
Elves smell nice. Tend to be a bit floral, but not overpowering.
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>>76912604
Its gonna sound racist but black people stink more. Natives & Asians dont stink as much. You can find horrible smelling people of all stripes, this is just a rough generalization
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>>76902573
Water... Sometimes from a river. It's not the best hygiene, but it's better than nothing.
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>>76925727
i unironically think thats mostly diet/hygeine culture based though, i live somewhere lots of indians immigrate and immigrated to and you can always tell what generation immigrant they are based on their smell - 1st gen immigrants always have an extremely heavy and gross body odour which i believe comes from the curries and possilbly a culture of not washing, whereas 3rd gen immigrants rarely smell any different to normal people (being, i guess, normal new zealanders at that point)
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>>76925783
except if people were shitting upstream it kinda gets worse than nothing
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>>76925799
What the hell are black people eating that white people arent? I grew up with a black friend, & we ate the same type of foods, lived next door to each other, etc. But even on a good day, if you got too close to him he had this weird stink smell on his skin.
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>>76902797
Swedes would be arrested for bathing too often and tempting the English mens wives
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>>76902573

how to make soap:
1. Collect lard and wood ashes and water.
2. leach the wood ash to create lye. This is basically running the water over the ashes, but if you do this enough times you'll eventually develope tools/techniques for doing this that is almost as good as what people did in 1000 BC.
3. Stir the lye into water to dissolve the lye. The vapors are dangerous.
4. heat your oils (or lard, or even the grease leftover in the pan when you cook meat).
5. mix the lye-water with the heated oils.
6. Pour into your soap molds/forms. Allow time to solidify and cool.

Done. This is why your grandma used to keep fat/lard from her stove. I have not done this before, so I do not know the exact amounts of each ingredient to use, and also I would not know things like correct temperatures or times, or how to mix the water and lye to not kill myself, or exactly how to harvest the lye after the leaching process (or even if I understood the leaching process correctly). An ancient person would not use modern terminology or chemistry to make soup. They would have just done whatever they were taught to do by their parents and may never think much about why they use this or that tool.

This is not hard. Actually, the adventuring party in the manga Dungeon Meshi create soap from the rendered fat of a Kelpie. This is actually a good plothook for adventurers, who could harvest exotic monsters for fat that can be rendered into candles and soap with magical properties.
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>>76902341
By going to hotel after the dungeon crawl and taking good, long, hot shower. And of course taking a bath regularly, at least once per day
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>>76928052
>He doesn't know how fucking important proportions are for this
Enjoy having a piece of watery lard with ash in it that never, ever will solidify.
God, I absolutely hate Idea Guys that come in at Mach-Smug speed, sprout some generic bullshit in tune of "Just put electric current through it" and consider their job done, while their advice and suggestion to be the epitome of education.
Also, that's not how you get lye.
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>>76928052
Also, go read "The Man Who Came Early" (the actual one, not the porn version). It's a love song to morons like you, mocking them since the 50s.
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>>76928291
>>76928310
Who pissed in your cereal? How about you simply correct his errors and keep the discourse civil?
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>>76924872
It also causes their earwax to have a different consistency from the rest of the world. No, really, its a mutation in the apocrine glands that makes them secrete a few slightly different molecules. Results in less body odor and flaky earwax instead of wet earwax.
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>>76919294
Not very, pre-Roman Brits were doing it.
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>>76919294
Specifically in DnD the price can be all over the place, because average DM has no idea how much bar of soap costs in real life.
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>>76902341
Prestidigitation is the greatest cantrip in DnD
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>>76902710
>Apparently people bathed once a week or some shit back in the day.
That was a specific cultural rule, for example the Vikings instead usually bathed daily.
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>>76927640
Black's skin often dries up hard and they use cocoa butter to rehydrate since its cheap. Might be that.
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I adventure in the desert so I take sand bathes
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>>76902341
My party lives on a space ship so shower I guess. at least I think they bathe I haven't asked them.
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>>76928615
>Who pissed in your cereal?
Realismfags and idea guys. Compounded, they actively make me pissed about how dumb people can be and yet how confident in their "knowledge".

Try this:
43 parts of oil (100g)
53 parts 17% potassium lye solution (123,2g)
5 parts 96% ethanol (12g)
Enough water and lye to get 17% solution of lye (in this case, that's 102,4g water and 20,8g lye)
In the brackets is amount of everything needed when you've got 100g of oil
You fuck up the amount of lye and it will either won't turn into soap (solution too weak) or will irritate or even burn the skin (solution too strong).

As for getting potash, and then turn it into a lye, by running water over it you gonna rid yourself of the potash solution. Soak the ash for a day - everything solutible will dissolve, everything else will sediment. Separate via filtration, getting the solution out of it. Then heat until it crystalises.
Alternatively, you don't evaporate the water and go to the next step of it to get actual lye: you add slaked lime to it.
Problem is, this method, in "home environment", produces both sodium and potassium lye and they can't be easily separated, while both react differently when tried to turn into a soap.

So no, it's not "just run water over burned wood, mate!"
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>>76902341
never bathed on a river anon?
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>>76902341
Prestidigitation
It's essentially just a go to spell for "Mundane life-improving magics" and "Minor parlor tricks" all wrapped into one spell. So instead of having "Clean teeth" "Clean hair" "Clean body" "Mend clothing" "Shine metal" "Start campfire" "Card trick" and "Conjure glitter" spells, they're all just ONE spell.
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>>76902341
It is called soap you absolute cretin,
If you travel in civilized land you will be pretty much always be near/on flowing water.

So the only requirements outside of freezing temperatures is not being a little bitch and giving yourself a quick wash with the river water. Sometimes you also need a place to dry your clothes.

Easy to change and carry thermal clothing beneath longer worn functional clothing isn't exactly a new invention. People hate smelling like old milk
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>>76932494
And the proof that dnd as a system isn't about works building or sensible rp but rather a combat simulator with RP stapeled on.

Which is fine
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>>76932560
Does anyone, except complete greenhorns, actually claim that DnD is anything, but very crude game for squad-based mini battles?
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>>76912604
Because white and black still stink more than asians, which almost entirely lack odorous perspiration. They sweat but smell isn't registered as such.
Same goes for earwax, which is dryer and less stickier than the one secreted by other ethnic groups.
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>>76921612
SO WHY DOES MAKAROV KNOW YOU?!
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>>76928310
>"The Man Who Came Early"
Hate that book. I like the idea it's selling, but the way how it's doing it is obnoxious. It's essentially pic related, which undermines the entire argument it is making.
The main character is a motherfucking engineer and a soldier, yet he somehow doesn't know that you can magnetise an iron needle by rubbing it over your own hair - something that's in the fucking field manual since they are printing those and handling to soldiers. He is an engineer with material science, but he doesn't know the most basic oxidation process, something that they teach in mid-school. And he tries to impress locals with building fuck-huge ship, rather than, you know, bermuda sails.
Essentially, he is intentionally written to act like an idiot, to make a very true statement that "You can't just throw high tech at low tech society, because you need an itterative process". And that very good and solid point could be made in plethora of ways... so Anderson used the most obnoxious way imaginable and making his character act like a fucking moron. Which is doubly insulting, because Anderson was at that point of his career famous for his time-travelling fiction, where he never acted like locals are idiots/superior and time traveller is superior/idiot.
tl;dr that novel could be soooo much better if the challenges the guy faces were genuine, rather than his own pig-headed idiocy.
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>>76932874
Following that, directly from wikipedia:
"The ABCC11 gene determines axillary body odor and the type of earwax.[5][19][20][21] The loss of a functional ABCC11 gene is caused by a 538G-A single-nucleotide polymorphism, resulting in a loss of body odor in people who are specifically homozygous for it.[21][22] Firstly, it affects apocrine sweat glands by reducing secretion of odorous molecules and its precursors.[5] The lack of ABCC11 function results in a decrease of the odorant compounds 3M2H, HMHA, and 3M3SH via a strongly reduced secretion of the precursor amino-acid conjugates 3M2H–Gln, HMHA–Gln, and Cys–Gly–(S) 3M3SH; and a decrease of the odoriferous steroids androstenone and androstenol, possibly due to the reduced levels and secretion of DHEAS and DHEA (possibly bacterial substrates for odoriferous steroids).[5] Secondly, it is also associated with a strongly reduced/atrophic size of apocrine sweat glands and a decreased protein (such as ASOB2) concentration in axillary sweat.[5]
The non-functional ABCC11 allele is predominant among East Asians (80–95%), but very low in other ancestral groups (0–3%).[5] Most of the world's population have the gene that codes for the wet-type earwax and normal body odor; however, East Asians are more likely to inherit the allele associated with the dry-type earwax and a reduction in body odor.[5][19][21] The hypothesized reduction in body odor may be due to adaptation to colder climates by their ancient Northeast Asian ancestors.[19]
However, research has observed that this allele does not result in ethnic differences in scent. A 2016 study analyzed differences across ethnicities in volatile organic compounds (VOCs), across racial groups and found that they largely did not differ significantly qualitatively nor quantitatively after Bonferroni correction. Of the few observed differences, they were found to be unrelated to ABCC11 genotype.[23]"
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>>76932883
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You clean up when you get back from the dungeon
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>>76935533
Hello bumpfag. Have you tried killing yourself already, like so many people advise you to?
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>>76935704
I'm not bumpfag/neckbeardia, but I appreciate the response.
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>>76925350
What if they don't bathe for a week?
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>>76937177
bumpfag stop
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>>76909782
>>76909894
Asian American here, just letting you know Asians in general are hyper sensitive to smell. I've done this experiment with my friends before where we blindfolded one another and did smell tests on arm/hair and it was always very obvious who was who. Yes we actually had a diverse group of ethnicities. And no my black friends aren't nignogs, they do shower and are very clean.

It's honestly just how it is, has nothing to do with racism
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>>76935704
>NOOOOO, YOU CAN'T JUST JOKE WITH PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET!
lol at you, nigger. Sorry no one talks to you.
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>>76902341
If everyone smells, nobody smells.
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>>76902341
Soap, rivers, cantrips, decanters of endless water, barring that a low sulfide diet.
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>>76906934
They take a bath the next time they roll into town it’s a basic service at all inns.
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>>76902341
I'm good I fought a water elemental 2 sessions ago.
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>>76938587
>If everyone smells, nobody smells.
I don't think that that's how it works.
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>>76942184
if it doesn't work please explain Delhi
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>>76942216
It's Delhi, nothing works.
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>>76932790
Any sensible people
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>>76906934
ranger, rogue, and barbarian will wait until the wizard is out of spells, gank up on him at the camp, and make him clean their big sweaty smelly cocks with his mouth
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>>76942184
I don't think your brain works either, bumpfag.
What do you gain from doing this shit? Seriously, what's in it for you that you keep doing this shit and dredging the most worthless threads from page 10 and 11. Is corona lockdown really this boring that you must make entire /tg/ miserable and keep alive threads nobody gives a fuck about, ofter for few days?
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>>76902341
What do you eat that you start smelling after the slightest bit if sweat?
People always talk about how smelly people who have sweat are, but I swear to god the only people I've met who smelled like shit are fatasses ans people with shit hygeine. Is this disgust of sweat a cultural thing or am I the smelly without realizing?
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>>76932441
>"Fucking """Idea guys""" thinking everything is simple!"
>lists instructions that are literally just as simple
Just say the guy is wrong. He's not an idiot, he just got facts wrong because he learned it from his grandma however many years ago and hasn't used it since. Don't be an ass.
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>>76943203
Not that guy, but the original instruction was wrong and that's clearly the point here. You can't make soap using the first one, because you gonna get an unemulgated mixture of lard and water without any saponification happening or, if you stirr it long enough, a shitty lard-water ointment, since lard has particularly low water number (I think it's 15, but don't quote me on that). Also, home-made recipes for making soap use prefabricates sodium lye for like 200 years at this point, as nobody bothers with making lye in their backyard. Too much work and too much unreliability, when you can get it for pocket change in a random shop
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>>76913114
Nobody in my party ever had Prestidigitation, so we were not often looked at fondly after emerging from some grimy dungeon and taking a 3 day walk back
>>76937488
Wasn't there an experiment that showed Asians produce the least amount of body odor? If that's true then it makes your story make sense.
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>>76942216
>if it doesn't work please explain Delhi
What do you have against India?
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>>76942315
Are they attractive and fit at least?
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>>76902341
>How do adventuring parties stay hygienic and smelling nice?
They don't, I constantly need to remind my players they reek like sweat and blood as they try and charisma random NPCs while unwashed.
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>>76902341
I read that as "panties" the first time around, but honestly this thread is still just as degenerate
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>>76932397
Why is she dressed while bathing?
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>>76947330
Yeah, even with a normal bath wearing clothes would be weird.



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