The Warp Takes Hold Edition>Dark Angels and Drukharii Previewhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/21/warhammer-preview-online-decadence-decay/>BA lore Focushttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/20/blood-angels-lore-focus-the-flaw/>Battleforces Revealedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/11/16/warhammer-40000-battleforces-incoming/>Warhammer TV Community Podcast:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PRlwoNJB4E]>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs>Tool to Improve Battlescribe Readability:https://buttscri.be/40k.php>3rd Party Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/XHFCunAZ>40k MEGA:>Put requests here:https://mega.nz/megadrop/COvnWHUBoFE>Find stuff here:volafile.org/r/1g6bbnxyr>Previous Thread: >>76074709>Thread Demand:Post your favorite 40k meme. Bonus points for clever file names.
just kinda dicking around with scions and bits. 9th edition killed a lot of my interest in 40k so now I don't feel so bad making models that I can do whatever with
>>76078854I'm into the left one.
>>76078911thanks.took almost forty minutes to get the hat right
H-heres your fffulgrim.. bro...
>>76079019Someone will unironically spend an assload of cash for that shit conversion and I cant wait to see it.
Where my boys in black at
>>76078854I don't see why you couldn't ever run these guysJust say their stubbers have ap ammo and run them as having hotshots
Just finished a box of rubric marines, starting my second box now. How should I differentiate the two squads?
Do all Ork lists need a minimum of 90 boys? I'm thinking of a list right now as Deathskulls with that many and three deff dreads and 6 buggies, just wondering what I put on the backline to hold those objectives.
You cannot hide your blood from the Shark! !
>>76079210this is why natsocs are gayit's not about the ideology or honorary shit, it's about the survival of the species, humanity comes before any xeno
Anyone have ideas on how to kitbash something like pic related? I was thinking DA and GK terminators with some sisters bits thrown in but what do you anons think?
>>76079191>I'm actually hard-pressed to think of a campaign the tau have actually lost.>They only ever job in art, but fluffwise they usually have pretty thick plot armor.>Canonically I can't think of a reason various armored and air units within the astra militarum could not out mobilize them.Tau got their asses beat by guard in the aeronautica fluff if that counts
>>76079212I mean you can sure just run grots if the rest of your army is proper killy. Unless you play competitively in which case why would you be orkz.
>>76079236>Tau got their asses beat by guard in the aeronautica fluff if that countsHow the fuck. Guard are flying WWII-style jets. I don't even know if they have heat-seeking missiles.
So it looks like all the retards who said Necrons would still be shit after their codex are pretty silent now, huh?
Asking here as well, what the fuck happened with Shadowsun storywise? GW made a whole blog post about the eerie ending to the assault of Startide Nexus when Death Guard just disappeared, and Shadowsun was nowhere to be found after her last tranmission implied her forces were getting overwhelmed....And the next blog post casually announced a Shadowsun miniature with a vague lore blurb that completely neglected to address what the fuck happened.
>>76079236I want to say it doesn't
>>76079233inquisitor coteaz would make a great base for it, just give him a sister helmet and then add whatever bits/weapons you want
>>76079210>picI came to a similar conclusion.Although I think it's a coincidence that an accurate description of the ethereal caste could be 'the master race'...
>>76079257They're still shit, just less so.
>>76079236aeronautica imperialis?cause that's pretty new I thinkI feel like they weren't allowed to lose for a long time because they were a new faction that was very small in comparison to everyone else setting wise, so they needed to not only be established as a threat, but allowed to take enough territory in order to actually be able to take losses they can recover from.>>76079252I imagine every guard/navy air battle going like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPqFUrSd8pE
>>76079257Because said retards here don't play.
>>76079285That’s taking in their pre-codex winrate. They’re sitting at a 54% post-codex.
>>76079250my grot list is perfectly killy thank you very much
>>76079309okay but what's the TiWP ratio
>>76079250Think Orks are atleast top 10 competitively at the moment. Ghaz/boys deathskull/buggies are good
>>76079313Now that's an army.
>>76079313If my math is right, that's 732 grots right there.I'd love to see you get those all on the table and get through two turns.
>>76079313yeah, I'm not playing against that
>>76079313ARDENGET THE HEAVY FLAMER
>>76079329Neat. Playing this game competitively makes as much sense as betting at a casino to me.
>>76079346See? I didn't have to touch any dice and my grots are already winning matches.
>>76079313to play against such an army would be a privilege
>>76079321The percentage of armies played in that faction that end up garnering a 4-0 tournament showing but better. Considering that Necrons were in an absolute state before the codex, that percentage should continue to rise rather that equalize.
>>76079313In 7e our Ork would run an all Grot army in games over 2k because he played green tide. His movement turn sucked so hard.
>>76079360I would play against it, sounds like it would be an absolutely brutal slog that fits the setting
>>76079285>They're still shit, just less so.They absolutely fucking aren't lmfao. We're already seeing top finishes, a first place finish, and someone managed to place well with six Heavy Lokhursts.
>watch eldar battle report>it's either vehicle spam or all-wraith armiesI'm tired.
oh wow I was wrong, aeronautica imperialis has been around for a whileI guess I thought it was new cause I saw stuff about it popping up in my news feed a little while ago
>>76079183Its a really good color scheme desu
What's the army for me if I want to be a Chad who crushes pussy?
Any army is competitive if you use loaded dice
I've been in a coma. What do we know about 9E codexes so far?
>>76079252The tau did pretty well in the air war, but they lost the void and ground war because I think this was happening at the same time as the death guard shenanigans so the tau had their forces on the other side of the empire so couldn't send reinforcements.There was this cool little moment where the tau pulled off an ambush using captured aircraft from the Imperium.
>>76079437Imperial Guard. Everyone else is a pussy in power armor or high on magic.
>>76079437no army will make you a chadall armies will probably make you less soaside from that, 30k players are occasionally roided out spergs, so maybe consider one of those
>>76079437The only choice leading to that outcome is to not play this game.
>>76079230vs the THAD Genestealers and terminators vs the SCHLAD Emperor and the consequences of his own actions
Is there any absolute friend out there that would snap a quick pick of their Indomotis Skorpekh Lord and any other non-HQ units you feel like sharing?
>>76079236Tau ended up losing the overall war vs Imperium after assassination of grand leader, with mass collapse of the new territories. Tau lost the war vs passing DG fleet overwelmingly, lucky only that DG were passing through.Tau lost decisively to necrons+craftworld allience started from craftworld+tau alliance against said necron dynastyTau lost overwelmingly in all pf their Deldar related wars
>>76079500Ask the work in progress thread friend
>>76079500Nvm, sorry for wasting those dubs. I found them. https://imgur.com/a/gMZfZmZ
>>76079481Henry cavil plays custodes tho
>guard have VTOL dropships covered in lascannons and other great shit like punisher gatling cannons>people still saying guard have WW2 techThe fuck?
>>76079528Yeah, just like he totally "plays" pc games.
>>76079481I restitched your image so it works better in the OP
>>76078712>Thread Demand:>Post your favorite 40k meme
>>76079528henry is not a chad because he plays custodes. henry is a chad in spite of this.
>>76079447bc they are always competitive
>>76079233there's something about boobplate on terminator armor that doesnt look right
>>76079554Rumour was he almost missed his role for superman due to a wow raid.Maybe true may be not, don't know why you're so jaded about a celebrity having a hobby
40k gacha when
>>76079566>bc they are always competitiveThey're literally the worst army in the game right now
>>76079531its because even the highest tech stuff guard has still has a world war aesthetic to it, which it should if done rightjust look at a sentinel, it looks like something you'd expect out of ww2 if they'd had legged vehicles
Dark Eldar players, how you feeling about your Codex coming up? Hopes, expectations?I'm hoping Ravagers get costed a little better and that Kabalites are either cheap or good, with splinter weapons also being worth a damn for once.
>>76079559He’s right tho
>>76079576Have you read his Instagram post with that custodes helmet picture? Go give it a look through and tell me it's not a publicity stunt.
>>76079587That data is three months old by now. Get new material.
>>76079531The obvious inspiration is the 50-70s era US military even if the helicopters have laser guns. You can bring up in the in-universe reasons related to STC reuse as to why most Imperial vehicles are basic tractors but you can't get around the real world reason they look that way.
>>76079587This just means tau players are bad, tau could be a great army with a retard, low IQ, playerbase
>>76079591Splinter weapons now always wound non-vehicles and titanic on 3+-1apGood enough?
>>76079606not him, i read that and yeah that does come off as a publicity stuntI buy he does some nerdy shit but I think his manager's probably saw people relating to that and now they have him running with itI buy he's really into pc gaming, not so much warhammer after reading that
>>76079617>Splinter weapons now always wound non-vehicles and titanic on 3+>-1apyeah, that'd be fine be me. Maybe have some custom Kabal to improve them further is thats the focus, but that would be a good start for sure
>>76079607>article published October 30th>three months old>>76079611The ITC is currently playing the same missions in the GW GT pack as everyone else is.
>>76079606>Go give it a look through and tell me it's not a publicity stunt.why would Henry Cavill need to appeal to the 40k demographicI don't think he's a avid player or anything but its pretty plausible that he has a casual interest in it and enjoys painting some little dudes in his downtime
>>76079616Richard Siegler himself has shelved Tau because they are in that bad of a state. It's not a case of Tau players being bad, it's also the case of the army being in an abhorrent state in 9th edition.
>>76079645>playing tournament missions>paying attention to tournamentfags>thinking competetive dickheads have any bearing on the overwhelmingly casual playerbase
>>76079591For us to stay decent throughout the edition instead of coming out hot and then rapidly falling into mediocrity by the end of the second month after release.
>>76079313is it even possible to deploy that army? I feel like a good chunk of missions would have too small of deployment zones, and not enough cp to reserve the rest
>>76079576It wasnt a rumour. Henry said that in an interview. And there is the other one when they ask him "Playstation or Xbox?" and he just says "PC"
>>76079665>even warhammer community is making “metawatch” articles with tournament players popping inYour hobby is gone now. Embrace esports
>>76079606Too much of a time consuming hobby
>>76079531It's less the raw tech and more like the doctrine(s) of use. I am absolutely certain that Marauders are flown in massive formations like pic related. >B-52 comparisonNah, Marauder doesn't have the payload. It needs the numbers. Hell, B-52s were accurate enough to use for bombing individual VC positions around khe sahn. They were more likely to hit the target (provided they'd been giving the right coordinates) while flying above the clouds than A-4s or F-4s that were flying below the clouds and could opt for visual targeting as needed. Marauders are not that accurate. And as for Avengers/Lightnings/Other aeronautica fighters, lascannons are still LoS weapons that fire in a straight line. It's technologically far more advanced than a 20mm cannon, but is used against targets in the same way.
>>76079679No matter how hard they push it, most people who play warhammer just want to push around their painted toy army men and throw back a few drinks while chucking dice
>>76079679what does the e stand for, anon?
>>76079665>thinking competetive dickheads have any bearing on the overwhelmingly casual playerbaseThey literally do. Matched play uses the same objective system as ITC primaries and secondaries. No more Maelstrom cards, and Crusade is now marketed as a campaign. Even casual pick-up games now use primaries and secondaries.
>>76079693Your way of playing 40k is dying.
>>76078494i got a source but you're not gonna like it https://www.reddit.com/r/Necrontyr/comments/jidvtc/indomitus_canoptek_spider/
>>76079696everything, because everything that was casual before now begins to have a competitive/minmaxing aspect and community to it.
>>76079670that art too cute
>>76079690how do imperial aircraft fare on the tabletop?like I said before, I imagine alot of even the successful battles for guard goin like that video, ridiculous losses, barely ekeing out a win through alot of death and self sacrificethe part where the guy kills the american ace by crashing his aircraft into the other dude's seemed perfectalso do tau have heat seeking missiles or some such?imperium has hunter killer missiles on the ground but I don't think those are even guided, let alone heat seeking, and they're only mounted on ground vehicles it seems
should I get dark eldar or sisters of battle as my next 1k army?
>>76079730I figure HK missiles are TOW analogies, which would make them wire-guided.There are the missiles from the Hunter that have a servitor built into each one, so they're "guided" but more accurately are being flown into the target by a martyr.
>People who paints a knight with a space marine color scheme, even going as far as putting chapter logos on the knightI always wipe a booger underneath the knight's shoulderpad when I see someone do this.
>>76079761I love that, need more kamikaze tier shit from the imperiumyeah HKs seem pretty TOW like but they sure do miss alot for guided missiles without any real countermeasures being deployed against them
>>76079708>Almost everyone I know who plays only ever wants to play competitive now>They constantly shit on the very notion of playing a smaller game or a skirmish>Constantly pick up and drop armies based on whatever the meta isEven before Covid I wasn't having much fun with this game, it's probably why I've done so little hobbying with all this free time.
>>76079765based booger-wiper anon
Did anyone get the new White Dwarf? How are the Tome Keepers?
>>76079777Come join the narrative campaign I'm working on anon :)
>>76079765Why can't you respect their chapter fluff?
>>76079735Sisters are pretty strong right now. Dark Eldar aren't but have a Codex coming up soon.Aesthetically Dark Eldar gives you more options and variety.
>>76079675I've heard stories of people who brought all grot list to tournaments. does well because nobody can deal with such a massive amounts of models. but there were games where they never got to deploy a bunch of models because its just impossible. These are all second hand stories so I don't know details, just rumors.
How does the Dark Imperium Death Guard army stack up against the Necron from Indomitus? >1 Lord of Contagion>1 Noxious Blightbringer>1 Malignant Plaguecaster>7 Plague Marines>1 Foetid Bloat Drone>20 PoxwalkersVersus>1 Necron Overlord>1 Royal Warden>1 Plasmancer>2 Cryptothralls>1 Skorpekh Lord>3 Skorpekh Destroyers>1 Plasmacyte>1 Canoptek Reanimator>10 Necron Warriors>6 Scarab swarms
So question about the C'tan? So they're all shattered so does that mean two Dynasties could have a Void Dragon locked in the basement somewhere or is there only one corporeal form of them?
>>76079805>narrative play for dumb peopleNo thanks
>>76079777tournament lists are straight up banned at the gw store near meas for the flgs the crusade thing they play had to ban forgeworld models and certain named characters because of powergamers.sounds like your area is just garbage
>>76079860>his area needs to ban this shit instead of the local players just not engaging with it and refusing to play games against the one or two people who do
>>76079860>tournament lists are straight up banned at the gw store near meSounds horrible.How do you audit the lists of strangers against all known tournament lists without being a total fucking sperg?
>>76079777>used to be like this>games started to get samey and repetitive>armies are all garbage tier comeptitively now>don't want to just throw away another $1000>just start painting and playing with models that look coolI almost feel freed
>>76079840>So they're all shattered so does that mean two Dynasties could have a Void Dragon locked in the basement somewhereyes
>>76079841>don’t want to play matched play>don’t want to play narrativeI knew 40kg doesn’t play
>>76079913Crusade is not narrative play.
okay it looks imperial aircraft have various guided and seeker type missiles all the time
>>76079931>/yourdudes/ become more experienced after each battle>pick up flaws and bonuses based on the outcome of the battle>winner of the game gets tangible bonuses to his armyI mean it's there.
>>76079934thanks for checkingI want more imperial aircraft.
>>76079931It literally is
>>76079777start and run your own narrative game, find a different game store with a more casual crowd, or best yet start playing a different game altogether>>76079860>needing to ban shit>/needing to ban forgeworld/holy shit the absolute state of euros.>>76079913at best 33% of 40kg playsOf those 33% everyone either realizes 9th is the best the game has been since mid 5th, or plays 3rd/4th/5th with their buddies.
>Spent 2 hours today going over my old firewarrior models and painting their hooves the right colour.>I just painted them straight up brown like they were extensions of their boots, but I started painting newer models with their actual bare hooves>It was bothering me so much I had to go back and do it.>It looks better, but now I want to touch up a lot more on the models even though from a distance they look fine.>In the end I spent hours painting tau feet.I feel like I should be disgusted by this.
>>76079974pics or it didn't happen
>>76079974>painting tauYou’re a godsend
I'm not very good at evaluating shit in a vacuum, are Incubi actually worth it now? They throw out a lot of S5 D2 but is that enough to bother more than basic troops for most factions?
>>76079974I disagree that it looks better. Having big blue toes sticking out looks dumb.
>>76079974>paintingdon't feel disgusted anon. You're being a paintchad, even though it's tau feet.+10vp
>>76080001Yes. Incubi are good marine killers. They wound DG on 4, marines on 3, and hit hard. You just need to take care to ensure they have the right positioning for their charge to hit home.>>76080013>bluenigga do you think cow hooves are flesh colored.
>>76080001>are dedicated marine-killers worth taking?I dunno, are you playing against marines?May as well have posted>are fire dragons actually worth it? they throw out a few S8 Dd6 shots but is that enough to bother more than tanks for most factions?
>>76079988I just put them all away. This is a picture of my carbine infantry that painting up made me paint the rest of them.The rest of my infantry are based. I'll base these guys next
>>76080001The issue with DE was often how good their stuff climbing out of transports was, rather than how they’d get there in the first place.The Incubi buff is very nice, with +1WS and 2 damage weapons. They’re going to perform much better in a marine meta, which we are in right now.
>>76078712>>Thread Demand:>Post your favorite 40k meme.
>>76079765>This freeblade, the last of an extinct house, has pledged to crusade with the chapter until it finally dies in battle>His knight is painted in chapter colours, to honour his comradesWhy is this a problem?
>>76080027Wait aren’t you tanktauanon
>>76080001I think a few MSU's in transport going hunting for devastor/havoc squad hunting would be reasonable
>>76079226>shark helm>shark effigies on power packPlz no, learn from the space wolves and don't go full retard.
>>76080001Incubi look like they will blend anything they touch Marines doubly so. I laugh at all the retards crying about how incubi got buffed to D2, and how it'll invalidate their 2w marines. even though incubi have always been great at killing marines. Like did marine players think that by going up to 2w and getting 2D heavy bolters that other factions wouldn't get some anti meq tools?
>>76080037Alternatively>chapter does a great deed to aid the knight house or a knight from the house and now it bears part of their heraldry or colorsnot really that hard to hand wave
>watch a battle report>someone has an embarrassing tattoo
>>76079591I just want things to be costed reasonably and for Wych Cults to be good for once. Also plastic Grotesques, though converting them is still fun
>>76079860>casuals knowing which list is casual and which is notOur store kinda went through this phase but it always just ended up being whoever won beeing a waacfag even if you had a list like >>76079313Our store finally ended up similar to commander in mtg where you say how powerful your army is on a scale to 1-10 and you just faced armies that was within 2 points to your army (very subjective but it still works somewhat well)
>>76079765>it's okay for knights to swear fealty to forge worlds but not chapters You're a knight world out in the Ghoul stars. Who is going to repair your shit if not the tech-marines of the Death Spectres?
>>76080045I see the tau and eldar read some of the same fashion magazines
>>76080045Unenclosed feet drive me nuts. Hooves or not, you'd cover those up with SOMETHING while marching around on alien worlds.
>>76080045oh like that, gotcha.>>76080060that's how you know it's wholesome
>>76080091I dun get it.
>>76080069>bring your leftover triptide Tau list>it’s power scale 2 because they’re that bad>get paired against some new guy who just finished up his Tyranids>lose
>>76080098Yeah, I'm used to seeing the hooves painted as hooves but I always thought the parts that are painted like flesh there were supposed to be a body sleeve type part that only let the hard hooves out
>>76078712>You totally don't need to highlight guys!>t. anti highlighting poster
>>76079988>>76079990Okay I took em out>>76080041yes. I have a lot of options, but my tank list is my favorite and the one I always return to.
>>76080091Tau wear sode on the left shoulder because>it's samurai weeb shit>it serves the same general purpose of absorbing incoming fire while the wearer himself is in a firing stanceThe eldar has essentially a duelist's cape, which had dual purpose of fashion and protection from cuts. Except the eldar appears to be left handed and the cape is on the wrong shoulder.Basically you're wrong about fashion.
>>76080124What are you trying to say?
>>76080151You really missed the joke he was making, man.
>>76080149I can’t wait for tanks to go down to BS4+ hahaGod why did it have to be like this. The Markerlights better be fucking amazing.
>>76080166His joke bombed. Get over it.
>>76080098yeah that's why I originally painted them as boots, I always thought their armor was fully enclosed even if some of it was a fabric. But really I was just lazy.
Do you think sisters of battle sleep in the same beds in the convent together to keep warm and save on using energy? It would be really cute if all the sisters snuggled together at night...
>>76080174God I hope not. One of the advantages of an all tank list is bs3+ across everything. If they just updated the marker light table it would help a lot. But I'll be honest, I just want corona to be over so I can start playing games again. Though at least I'm getting my army painted and based.
why do tau players always say they need better than BS4+ while wielding such ridiculous weapons, meanwhile guard can only BS+ with generally worse weapons if they're taking scions or some kinda tank commanderlike sheeeiiit give me some 2+ muhfuggas aside from pask then3+ sentinels would be cool too
>>76080151>samurai weeb shitExcept all depictions of samurai armor show the shoulder regions are same size and shape?
>>76080196I know sleeping in the same bed as a girl sounds super hot but then someone goes on her period and you wake up hoping the blood isn't yours
>>76080211>why do tau players always say they need better than BS4+ while wielding such ridiculous weaponsA weapon is only as good as the person that shoots it. Also Tau weapons have been power-crept by Primaris weapons. Having S5 across the board doesn’t offset no AP and lower BS
>>76080211Because at least guard have ways of playing in the psychic and melee phases.
>>76080209Considering everything in the Forgeworld book that was over BS4+ got reigned in back to hitting on 4s, I think the Hammerheads are next on the chopping block.
>>76080236And they’re far cheaper
>>76080247>BS2+How does he do it?
What are you guys hoping that Dark Eldar get in their codex?
>>76080232>Also Tau weapons have been power-crept by Primaris weapons. Having S5 across the board doesn’t offset no AP and lower BSWhat a strange thing to say. Pulse rifles and bolt guns were both AP 5 before the changes, now they're both AP 0. Primaris power creeped everyone. Bitching about it is pointless.
>>76080269Sexy booby elves. A new unit powered by eldar lady breast milk.
Daily life of a Catachanhttps://youtu.be/MBbOyLZ62KY
>>76080236they still get generally trashed in melee outside ogryns their psykers aren't particularly adept either>>76080232I'm saying the avg guard weapon is not only worse than the avg tau weapon, but that the shooter is of equivalent skill and we don't get marker lights either
>>76080274Think instead of a pain engine, a milk engine. But it looks like an eldar version of a penitent engine with a naked eldar girl strapped to the front with big heaving milk jugs being pumped.
>>76080269Expand the kabal/wyches/covens idea. Give me rules and different reasons to do single-party raids, two-party raids, and triple-party raids.
Fuck, looks like bladeguard are better overall but I better roll a lot of 4s
>>76080268Well, since he doesn't have to learn a new set of skills because he refuses to get in the robot I imagine it allowed him to refine his skills as a fire warrior.
>>76080298Thry'll also have like half the points and have access to one of the better transports in the game
>>76080298PL 4 implies incubi will cost about 60% of what bladeguard vets cost. >better overallSure, but specialized counter units are cool too.
>>76080239Nah, I don't think so. most of it was the fact that in 8th their BS was made to offset the move and shoot penalty. only the tigershark and manta were really hurt and they're more apocalypse units anyways. If anything I hope it means there's ideas in the works to fix marker lights. I'll be optimistic.
>>76080298Assuming Drazhar keeps +1 wound aura they’ll wound marines on 2s
>>76080288>I'm saying the avg guard weapon is not only worse than the avg tau weapon, but that the shooter is of equivalent skill and we don't get marker lights eitherBecause you’re way fucking cheaper and are priced accordingly for not having that effect, while Tau units are, wether or not they are currently benefiting from them or not. You also have other abilities you can benefit from (orders are amazing value).Fire Warriors are more comparable to Skitarri, which surprise surprise, have an easier time accessing buffs, can still take unique heavier weapons, and have a better BS and WS for the same cost.
>>76079828That's 700 points of chaos against 1000 points of necrons, which can't all fit into a legal detachment.
>>76080288No but you get orders. and access to heavy flamers. Also at least guard have those options. as opposed to krootox and ____. Tau are basically 100% fucked the moment they see a C'tan.
>>76080322>I'll be optimistic.I wish I had that. Considering the last codex was made by a guard player and had horrible internal balance.
>>76080339Fire warriors are priced appropriately because tau's army fantasy isn't supposed to be masses gunlines of infantry. Your infantry are just meant to be shit.
>>76078712>buy codex>has no code for the appfuck me, does a pic of the receipt work?
>>76080373D-Did you buy an 8th ed codex
>>76080269>What are you guys hoping that Dark Eldar get in their codex?Improved Splinter weaponsGood custom traitsRules/Secondary objectives that let Dark Eldar play like raiders and opportunists instead of having to sit bodies on objectives all game; something that lets you steal them momentarily for a points swing would be good.The ability to take Kabal/Cult/Coven mercs in other lists without fucking your detachments
>>76080398>The ability to take Kabal/Cult/Coven mercs in other lists without fucking your detachmentsThey already teased that you can have mixed Kabal/Wych/Coven in a detachment without breaking anything so that should be interesting.
>>760804068th ed codexes don't have online codes mateOnly 9th ed codexes do
>>76080398>Improved Splinter weaponsUnlikely seeing how necrons got fuckall to improve gauss, unless you want a splinter strat>Good custom traitsThese will probably be pretty sweet
What would be the best youtube battlereport cross over and why would it be Lawrence from tabletop tactics vs Brian fron tabletop titans?
>>76080339>>76080348I dunno dudes, tau fire warriors seem appropriately priced and set up for what they aresame cost as a scion team, with a more versatile standard weapon, 5 more bodies, the same armor, and 1 less bs but the potential to make it up a bit with markerlightsI would trade hotshots for any of the pulse weapons, even carbines
>>76080418figures because I had to find a video to see points changes.... I cant get chariot HQ stats
Daily, threadly, postly reminder to Play Crusade.>>76079805Based
>>76080424what armies do they play?
ok I take it back, not as good as I thought if it's 5 bodies to begin with and not 10 as I had assumed
>>76080438>more versatile standard loadoutI don't even play tau but you're either retarded or trolling. Their choice is between two S5 AP0 guns, one is shit and the other ok.
>>76080469do you think hotshits are better than pulse guns?
>>76080485With their better BS and decent AP value, yes.Plus if you're not taking specials in your scion squad why are you even playing them.
>>76080411>They already teased that you can have mixed Kabal/Wych/Coven in a detachment without breaking anything so that should be interesting.I hope so, it'd be real nice to take Reavers without a Succy/Wych tax.>>76080421I'm hoping at least theres one custom kabal option that gives splinter weapons some teeth, but I don't think a base AP increase for them in general is unreasonable
>>76080438Anon, Fire Warriors are literally shittier scions. S5 doesn’t offset no AP and 4+ BS. Plus, Scions have WAY more wargear choices and access to actually useful grenades, which they can make use of because they’re rocking a better BS stat.
>>76080438the fact that a scion squad can load up on special weapons and is bs3+ makes it more of a hammer. Getting that sort of firepower from a troops slot is huge. Breachers would be the most comparable but with short ranged shot guns that need to be within 10" to just be st5 ap-1. Pathfinders can get special weapons but they're nowhere near as good as a plasma gun and they cost more for lest weapons at bs4+ 5+ save and costing a fast attack slot instead of being troops.
>>76080495>and decent AP valueYou fool.User agnostic, 1/3 of hotshit shots will wound marines, and the AP causes 2/3 to fail their saves.2/3 of pulse rifle shots will wound, and with no AP, 1/3 will fail their saves.Raw wound generation of hotshits and pulse rifles is identical EXCEPT hotshits have gimped range and gutter trash 9" rapid fire.If you want to bitch about Tau BS 4+, go for it.But pulse rifles are absolutely A-Okay.
What do you think of Breacher Teams and their Pulse Blasters at the moment?
>>76080526>If you want to bitch about Tau BS 4+Not him, but that’s what the conversation’s been going on about. If Tau were to be upgraded to BS3+, I think most people would expect the infantry to remain at 4s.>But pulse rifles are absolutely A-Okay.They are, but combined with bad BS and a lack of AP, they’re just mediocre. That’s why people are using Breachers now because the playing field is saturated with power armor, so even if you have to get close in, Breachers are capable of more damage than Strike Teams with minimal support. Plus they get better synergies with Guardian Drones and new stratagems.Fire Warriors for the most part aren’t what’s wrong with Tau. It’s the fact that basically everything else expects you to be paying for Markerlights and surrounding it with drones, while the first is dogshit, and the latter got nerfed with a 50% price increase, on top of everything getting more expensive.
>>76080527They're good. the table is smaller, and everyone is moving towards the middle anyways. their strats and ap and drone are all things that make them more interesting than regular strike teams. They also have some neat synergies. but usually a lot of CP to to barely get more firepower.
>>76080510>>76080495>>76080517ofc stormies have better bs, they're supposed to be among the best humiesI don't get why you guys can't take pathfinder special weapons on firewarriors or get veteran firewarriors thoughdon't you guys get decent drone buffs for similar prices to scion special weapons?
>>76080527Cool but bad.Most of the tau codex is bad though, so I can't fault breachers for that bit.>>76080552>pulse rifles just mediocreThat's the same as being okay. We're agreeing.
>>76080526Hotshots actually have a 15% higher chance to kill a marine than an equal amount of shots from pulse carbines.
>>76080552Also the fact that Tau don’t have a way to flip objectives via charging, the games last for fewer turns, the loss of fall back and shoot (big), and the gigantic nerfs they received in their forgeworld book. There’s literally nothing they have going for them at the moment that other armies can’t do better. I play both Tau and Ad Mech, and with the cogs, it’s a night and day difference.
>>76080564Care to explain? If you post a graph with out any formulas, I'm going to laugh at you.
>>76080556>don't you guys get decent drone buffsOnly one I can think of is Guardian Drones giving Breachers a 5++. That’s pretty much it.
>>76079394I think Lokhust Heavy Destroyers were underestimated by a lot of reviewers. BS3+ re-rolling 1s is pretty reliable. They have a few ways to re-roll wounds - via destroyer lord re-roll 1s, command re-roll, or the 2cp re-roll all wounds strat. You can also spend 1 cp to guarantee a wound with one of them if you really need to make sure one goes through. A lot of those strats synergize well with a single shot that does a ton of damage. They're more fragile than their competition in that role, doomsday arks and canoptek doomstalkers, but they're much more effective when moving and shooting.
>>76080499>I'm hoping at least theres one custom kabal option that gives splinter weapons some teeth, but I don't think a base AP increase for them in general is unreasonableI don't think there is a troop option that has anything so potent for that price range. Maybe scions, but they're kinda just an elite option pushed into the troop slot
>>76080571You horrifically understate the value of AP and you simplified your own math too much. I'm not just gonna put in the effort to spell out the formulas because honestly you come off like you'd ignore it anyways.
>>76080571Not him, but I’ve been plugging the profiles into the MathHammer app and Hotshots are showing better returns than pulse rifles.
>>76080606Don't post those, or he'd laugh at you.
>>76080604>>76080606user agnostic, firing at marines:>hotshots1/3 wound, 2/3 fail saves>pulse rifle2/3 wound, 1/3 fail savesregardless of weapon, the formula is x * 2/9 where x is number of shots. How is this over simplified? I'm not familiar with the mathhammer app. Does it let you set the BS manually, or does it force you to compare units?
>>76080626you're being trolled
>>76080631are you telling me I made this spreadsheet for nothing
>>76080626Your math is missing the BS skill of the unit, which is the biggest argument here. It would look like this:>Scion w/ rapidfire Hotshot>2 shots>66% hit chance, so 1.3333 hits>33% wound chance, so .4444 wounds>33% chance for marine to save, so damage total is .2962Fire Warriors w/ rapidfire Pulse Rifle>2 shots>50% hit chance, so 1 hit>66% wound chance, so .6666 wounds>66% chance for marine to save, so damage total is .2222The hotshot actually has a better return when shooting at a Marine.
>>76080653>tau profile>BS3Based retard
Is it a good idea to take 20 Rubric marine squads with 2 soul reaper cannons?
>>76080626Does saying user agnostic mean you're just ignoring chance to hit? That's not how 40k works bub.
>>76080653Yes. Hotshits are AP -2. You have them at AP -3>>76080660>your math is missing the BSThat's why I stated user agnostic. I am specifically refuting the claim that pulse rifles are bad because they lack AP. No. That's wrong. I stated this back in >>76080562We are agreeing that fire warriors shooting sucks because of BS 4+.
>>76080671I also messed up the hotshot ap so ignore that
>>76080677>I am specifically refuting the claim that pulse rifles are bad because they lack AP. No. That's wrong.They’re bad because of the COMBINATION of no AP, bad BS, and a lack of options. I think that’s the point trying to be made for Fire Warriors being mediocre infantry.
>tfw tau baseline soldiers are comparative equipment wise to the most elite baseline human soldiers in the imperium
>>76080690s5/ap0 and s3/ap2 have the same chance to wound a marine and they're the same cost as a scion thojust stick markerlights on them lmao, like how hard could that be. jesus just do your army gimmick haha
>>76080690Pulse rifles don't have BS. They're not a unit. I am saying pulse rifles are fine.You are saying fire warriors are bad.We are not disagreeing. Figuring out puzzles like pic related must be fucking magic to you.
>>76080677>user agnosticSetting scions to bs4+, both guns have the same chance to take a wound off a marine. Unfortunately for you, differing ballistic skills are taken into account when discussing units. The best you can hope for is ignoring the amount of buffs a unit receives from outside sources.
>>76080713I'm not talking about units I'm talking about weapon profiles. The pulse rifle does not need a buff. It is absolutely fine.
>>76080694Which aren’t exactly praised for their effectiveness in the tabletop on the first place. Are you sure you want to dig this hole?
>>76080526>>76080709pulse rifles are fine. But they're the same stat line as burst cannons and smart missile systems and cluster rockets and any gun drone. Its nice to a have a higher floor. but the options for anti meq and other weaponry really drops off. heavy bolters and meltas got buffed and your plasma is st7 overcharges to st8mean whileBurst cannons are ST 5 ap- D1 compared to heavy bolters. Heavy bolters are 2 pts more than a burst cannon but with twice the range, one less shot but more ap and damage.Tau plasma rifles are St6 ap-3 D1 with no option to overcharge compared to imperial plasma probably one of the more useless guns in the codex. again imperial plasma is only 2pts more than a tau plasma gun.Missile pods which are autocannon equivalents are St7 ap-1 D3 and cost 5 pts more and have less range (though 36"is more than enough, and they're assault weapons)Fusion blasters are nice, their range is midway between a melta and multimelta but it didn't get the melta rule changes that other races meltas got. so its 18" vs 12" but it cost 5pts more.Cyclic ion blaster is the most interesting being st7 ap-1 d1 overcharges to St8 ap-1 dd3. but even still random damage instead of flat two and only ap-1. its 15ptsHunter killer missiles are ST10 ap-2 d6, while seeker missiles are st8 ap-2 d6, and the seeker missile needs a marker light to even fire. All tau special weapons are worse and cost more than their imperial equivalents, and the argument of well they get buffed by marker lights doesn't hold water because you're already paying the markerlight tax by having to take marker light units anyways. If you want AP-2 on any of them you have to buy a special piece of wargear which only works on battlesuits. This isn't to say the tau are bad at killing things. they aren't, but they have bigger problems right now mainly that they are terrible at actually taking and holding objectives, and they can't deal with C'tan like entities at all.
>>76080720who isn't praised for their effectiveness?
>>76080707>s5/ap0 and s3/ap2 have the same chance to wound a marine and they're the same cost as a scion tho>factoring out the BS skill once moreBased retard>just stick markerlights on them lmao, like how hard could that be. jesus just do your army gimmick hahaBecause Markerlights are fucking garbage and if you were even taking them in the first place (people run FSE for the purpose of not having to take them), then you wouldn’t waste them on buffing your infantry, you’d use them for the stuff that actually does damage like suits and tanks.
>>76080722>All marine special weapons are worse and cost more than their tau equivalents, and the argument of well they get buffed by captains and lieutenants doesn't hold water because you're already paying the HQ tax by having to take support units anyways.
>>76080736>ballistic skill skill
>>76080719Alright, then lets talk about units then A Scion stat line isM6" WS3+ BS3+ ST3 T3 W1 A1 LD6 SV4+ can deep strike gets frag and krak grenadesA firewarrior stat line isM6" WS5+ BS4+ ST3 T3 W1 A1 LD6 SV4+gets a nominal leadership ability for moral purposes, Gets a grenade that causes enemies to hit at -1 in close combat.they are both the same points. Ignoring the weapons, which would you prefer to take?
>>76080738>All marine special weapons are worse and cost more than their tau equivalents*laughs in Cawl*>you have to take support unitsFuck me, I WISH I had easy access to rerolling wound rolls in an aura.
>>76080738Except that's fucking wrong. All the marine equivalents are the exact same points cost as their guard equivalents and the same functionality. The premium is paid for the better body to wield it.
Starting layout for the animationIt'll probably probably take about 6 months for me to finish, maybe a bit more or less depending on my actual job.
>>76080757Scions because I'm not a faggot who likes blueberries
I can only have half my army in Strategic Reserves for deep strikes and such, right?Do units in transports count as that? Since my dudes in a Rhino aren't actually on the board?
>>76080757Whichever one I like the models forPicking units or models based on rules or stats is for faggots
>>76080780Not if you play marines and use drop pods.
>>76080782That's granted but we're specifically talking unit comparisons.
>>76080780No, those are embarked units, and are different than reinforcements.
>>76080782Yes yes, we know. You don’t need to try that hard to fit in.
>>76080780Being in a transport counts as being deployed. Reserves are for things that are outflanking, or deep striking and are completely off the table. A unit that is embarked in a transport that is outflanking would count against that limit however.
>>76080757Yeah ofc you're go scion but they're practically a different role.Fire warriors should probably see a points reduction but they seem to be meant to function more like regular guard squads whereas scions really should still be in the elite slot.They cost more points than the avg guard squad by having more consistent shooting and better armor saves, though they probably pay a bit too much for it.It's WS4+ btw
>>76080783>>76080796>>76080804Oh ok. So there's nothing to stop me from putting all my units in Rhinos in deployment, so long as I have enough Rhinos, except common sense? Trying to get my mechanized infantry on.
>>76080769dope dude.perhaps /tg/ still gets shit done...
>>76080769lookin forward to it
>>76080821You can have as many transports as you have infantry units, so sure. They're the only thing that ignores the rule of three outside troops.
>>76080805>Fire warriors should probably see a points reductionThat's where balancing gets complicated, seeing as GW decided we were bringing too many cultists and not enough CSM and brought the price up.But it's okay for Guard to have low ppm infantry spam, because I guess that's the theme of the army?I guess GW is trying to tell tau players that fire warrior gunlines aren't allowed, and they should use more battle suits? What a shitty move.
Is it my imagination or does AOS have a more even distribution of attention for their factions than 40k? I know nothing about AOS so it's possibly a superficial observation. I do know that primarishits receive a lot of attention in 40k relative to the other factions.
>>76080861nah the AoS management is generally more competent, it's pretty obvious that the 40k team plays favorites and generally steals most of their good ideas from AoS.
>>76080853>I guess GW is trying to tell tau players that fire warrior gunlines aren't allowed, and they should use more battle suits? And then they increase Shield Drone cost by 50% and take away falling back and shooting with FLY.I’m expecting a full rework for the faction, honestly.
>>76079125they've tried that with rise of the phoenix and it failed horribly. which of course was also because of the stupid high price.
>>76080861they do, especially since they haven't focused on stormcast in ages nowI really wish my 40k group would give AOS a shot desu
>>76080226I know you've probably never had sex but 99% of women are aware of when they are about to menstruate and wear pads/tampons to sleep
How good are chaos havocs?I feel like they are too squishy to get any good shooting done.
>>76080805Not really. Scions are still troops that cost the same with the same survivability and better rules. A firewarriors role in a tau army is to be objective secured bodies and to fill out force org slots so you can get CP. A Scion unit can do a firewarriors role, and better since they can deep strike in for the same cost. A firewarrior would not be able to do a scions role of dropping in with special weapons. Scions are superior in almost every case. the only exception is when firewarriors are shooting at lightly armored t4-5 infantry at more than 9" but less than 15" away. Honestly in this comparison I'm embarrassed to say that I always thought Scions were Elite choices and were balanced their special rules with that. The fact that they're troops made me realize just how much better imperial armies have it.And in the end, you still don't think a scions unit is good for actually playing objectives. while for Tau that's their only option for play objectives. (I guess you can count kroot, but kroot cost the same as a guardsmen with the same toughness and only a 6+ save so lol)
>>76080895>but kroot cost the same as a guardsmen with the same toughness and only a 6+ save so lolKroot are 1 point more expensive
>>76080893Potentially good but they are squishy and you need to keep them protected somehow. AL and IW can do so with strats, otherwise keep them in a Rhino or Strategic Reserves them, they don't suffer from the move and fire penalties most infantry do so they're good like that. Don't be afraid to pump CP into getting the most out of their turn (Veterans, Cacophony, etc) because they'll die soon after but Chaincannons/HB or anti tank can make them do a lot of work before they do.
>>76080836>>76080846At the moment I'm working on the file, folder and layer organisation for it.
>>76080917they have better ws and a better weapon too tho
>>76080917I honestly forgot how fucking stupid kroot carnivores are as a unit right now.tau do need a rework. And I doubt its coming any time soon. But that's okay It doesn't really change the way I play
>>76080879the problem is aos may have better rules but the setting is so much uglier and less appealing than 40k
>>76079313this is lore accurate, I would spend all day playing against this
>>76080972and worse save and leadership and 20% more expensive for a min squad.
>>76080893Havocs are literally just gravis marines now and I don't remember anyone calling aggressors squishy
>>76079587What makes Chaos Knights so much higher than Imperial Knights?
>>76080980Just play wfb armies that got ported over then>>76081039Being able to pick relics and wlts before the game, they have way more specific things that let them toolbox
Okay, Sigvald looks fantastic. Now where's Lucius?
>>76081049what if I want to play a weird military sci fi army like the guard though
>>76081132guard aren't weird or sci-fi at all though.
>>76081132Then play the Guard?
>>76081149he said play aosI said it's setting and aesthetic is worse than 40k'she said to play whfb armies that got ported>>76081146literally anything I described the guard as I knew someone like you would pop upalso yeah okay, nothing weird or sci fi about commandos in knightly plate with laser guns or ww1 tanks with plasma turrets
>>76081132Play cities, they have steamtanksthey're trash thoOr skaven, cocainepunk is scifi
>>76079873>>76079882look it worked because it threw out all the sweats from one store and they moved to another, effectively splitting the community between autists and non-autists. you can still have comp lists, the opponent just needs to be aware.as for the crusade shit, I only heard rumours, I don't play 40k unless I know they aren't a greasy motherfucker.
>>76081132>still fishing for AoS hateits been 6 years, I don't really understand how the fuck people are still complaining about it
>>76081181Knowing what the actual cover looks like and the /aosg/ bitchfit over it, that edit feels a little bit sad.
>>76081163>also yeah okay, nothing weird or sci fi about commandos in knightly plate with laser guns or ww1 tanks with plasma turretsEvery other faction is both weirder and more sci-fi than guard. Even marines, vanilla as they are, aren't as mundane. They're the most normie of factions, and I'm not talking playerbase.
Remember when we saw the new RP rules and thought it was just a bad FNP? Has anybody tried wiping a 20 man unit of warriors?
>>76079313Exceptionally based grotanon.
>>76079336Movement trays are op and need to be nerfed.
>>76079361It's unbelievably boring. It's just "how many grots can I kill before they've swarmed my objectives and autowin". Now slap a few KFFs on there and they're fucking impossible to remove.
>>76081181I like playing humans, so my only option is the trash faction that has to look like landsknechts thenAoS is fine, like I said, sounds like a better game mechanically, but at least for me, not nearly as good aesthetically or fluffily>>76081196I'm not, he just said to play AoS and I'm just saying that ain't an option 4 me
>>76079591Coven will get the biggest upgrades because they are expensive. The void raven bomber will become a must take because it is much more expensive than the razor wing.
Wish we'd get a Lost and the Damned army some day.
>>76081222It was mostly shit posting about destroyers.
>>76081256They already have 6++ from new kulture, too.
Is mephiston even good rn
>>76081244At that point you'd need movement trays for your movement trays.
>>76081265AoS was able to escape the grog crunch swamp that was WHFB 40ks still stuck in it
>>76081355I was really hoping the fall of Cadia would be a setting reset on par with AoS but here we are still stuck with all this chud shit :/
>>76081366Honestly cadia should've fallen abaddon moves to terra fights dante like sigmar vs archaon Setting ends
>>76081346he's a primaris librarian that's much stronger in close combat, is much harder to kill, knows an extra power and is a little faster in exchange for about 60 more points. as always, wait for the codex (supplement).
>>76081366Anon, what does chud mean in this context?
>>76081375So he is good at the moment
>>76081277Id be DAMNED if we dont
>Rust and Rot>Adeptus Mechanicus>Death Guard >Drukhari>Imperial GuardWhen was the last time a xenos faction got top billing in one of these war zone books? I mean where they were a focus of the conflict, not just a sideshow actor that was doing stuff on the sidelines.
Yesterday I restrained myself from buying the scions start collecting box. I did all the calculations of how much you save and with third party+box discount it's almost the 50%.But having only 3 info squads and wanting a more veteran focused army I'm not sure if I should or not Please guardfags helpI have catachans btw
So since we are in 9rh now is 6th edition a good edition? I think its old enough
>>76081458Never, this campaign book is basically to tie together their next few codexs which is free of primaris.I have a feeling book two will have chaos knight carapace weapons
>>76081379he means the imperium still exists as grimdark good guys instead of being wiped and replaced with an idealistic capeshit tier faction
>>76081277this is the only krieger image I've ever seen that made me actually like themprobably cause it looks like they're fighting for their lives instead of being grimderp clones>>76081363I'm just describing the faction how the aos guy described themhe said city had steam tanks or something and they're close to what I like but not to play them cause they're actually trash
Fixing Tau is going to start with Fire Warriors going to 3+ and pulse rifles getting AP -1 baseline, with other weapons improved. Suits are going to get a "shoot twice" thing whether stratagem or wargear or something. There'll be a melee variant or unit of some kind. It's going to be glorious.You'll see Tau back without even needing to Riptide and you'll finally stop bitching about fucking Marines.
>>76081498Neither CoS nor steamtanks are bad, Cities is currently popular in tournaments and an overall solid faction. Midtier at worst.
>>76079519>Tau lost decisively to necrons+craftworld allience started from craftworld+tau alliance against said necron dynastyWait what? A Necron + Craftworld Alliance?
>>76081512>Fixing Tau is going to start with Fire Warriors going to 3+ and pulse rifles getting AP -1 baseline,I'll accept AP-1 and maybe the shasui getting bs 3+, but what you suggested is too much.
>>76081518Temporary truce. Craftworlds turned on Tau allies due to a prophesy showing Tau as too dangerous for the craftworlds' survival if their enemy necron dynasty are beaten.
>>76081568Where is this from?
>>76080675for backsitting yesfor aggressive obj securing flamer are better
>>76081586Wanted to say 8e Tau or Eldar codex, but nope. It was a short codex-like entry.
>>76081482Not wanting the setting to attract nazis isnt as controversial as you want it to be
>>76081346wait for the codex to know
>>76081458Well since "War Zone" books were skipped in 8th and only showed up in 7th, it's been 5 years.
Where are the DG codex leaks aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>76081690Its not gonna be out for a while guy
>>76081698Weren't they supposed to be released early in December? Just wishful hoping. I want to consoom, haven't bought any shit for 6 months.
>>76081756I forgot but no one has it to leak
>>76081690It's been years since the last consistent rule leak that wasn't the week before the release anon.
Animation anon hereWould a hotshot lasgun/ hellgun push the victim back?
>>76080037>>76080058>>76080071>t. loreletsa knight fitting the chapter symbol somewhere amongst their heraldry, sure, but there's no way they would replace it all.
>>76080124it's easy to get away with not highlighting if you make a heavy use of metallics.
>>76079765>hating someone's models >acting autistic about it Fucking with another man's models is like fucking with another man's car Please kill yourself
>>76081789The pixelated leak was right
>>76079765Time to make a marine knight to piss you off
> Just popped 30mg of Oxycodone and am building a squad of Intercessors while listening to the Warhammer Community podcast about Adeptus TitanicusWhat are you working on tonight, /tg/?
>>76081937Im watching early simpsons while getting ready to photograph my army
>>76081885>tfw I made the mspaint mockup of what kitbash I thought it wasas penance for my shame I will buy, build, and paint one of these abominations
>>76081937Spent my weekend painting metallic trim on 5 plague marinesI hate trim
>>76081690Your book isn't out for a month yet probably, DG and BA are probably next weeks previews.
>>76081978What army?>>76081998I like painting trim, but it always takes forever because I am hyper anal when it comes to not fucking up. My paintjobs look pretty mediocre in general, but my trim is fucking primo.
>>76081690Death Guard Codex leaks:Got a boost: peepeeGot a nerf: poopoo
>>76081979You realize it couldn't possibly have been a kitbash of those models because those kits are dramatically different sizes, right?
>>76081937>What are you working on tonight, /tg/?Debating whether I want to paint some of my remaining CSM stuff as Word Bearers or <My Dudes>, I have a bunch of each already.
>>76082014I didn't think it was a real kitbash, I thought it was a photoshop edit that was then pixelated to hide any blemishes or signs that it was an edit and not a real model.
>>76082048Unless you already have Word Bearers, I'd suggest <Your Dudes> since they're your children and you could always 'counts as'
So when are we getting the others
>>76080163Those your iron hands? How do you do your black?
>>76082048<your dudes> is my recommendation. My favorite part of the hobby is making my own shit up.>>76082059If I could go back to when I first started playing, I would have done a Blood Angels successor instead of the army I built.Between 40k, 30k, and Space Hulk, the Blood Angels have the coolest fucking models. There is so much detail and iconography, it's amazing.
>>76082071we're not, the impulsor already counts as the hunter/stalker/whirlwind depending on what gun you take, and technically the rhino as well if you take the shield. It's only really the vindicator that lacks an equivalent.
>>76081979The nuspeeder wouldn't be so bad if it didn't have the superfluous 3rd retard on top and also wasn't the size of a tank anyway making you wonder what the point of differentiation even is now. It's the other hovershit that's the real problem.
>>76082067>Unless you already have Word BearersI do, I have about 1000+ points of each.
>>76079765Hear me out here: House Kobalt, also known (through heavy self-promotion) as the Lictors of Ultramar. A noble Knight House from the Realm of Ultramar, they claim descent from the age-old dynasty of Konor Guilliman and hold the Primarch Roboute Guilliman in the highest esteem. They have historically cultivated close ties to the Ultramarines and have maintained a close relationship to every individual Lord Macragge since the days of the Great Crusade. Drawing on their prodigal heritage, it is with utmost pride that they dye their engines of war the very same blue as is dyed the Ultramarines' ceramite panoply, and by the ancient House Guilliman's leave the Knights Kobalt, too, display the heraldic ultra-symbol of the Ultramarines.
>>76081813Bullets dont carry enough kinetic energy to push back human targets. Its a Hollywood trope, so light push back even less.
Is there any better matchup than Terminators vs Genestealers?
>>76082133Hormagants vs imperial guard infantry.
>>76082107>There is so much detail and iconography*blocks your path*
>>76082110A sabre/vindicator impulsor would be sick but considering FW ruined the sabre itll never happen
>>76082157>Fw doesnt understand DAWhat a shock
Brainlet here learning the rulesIf you charge a unit, then in the fight phase you first resolve attacks by the charging unit, and then resolve attacks by the charged unit on the charging unit? Or does the latter part only happen in the fight phase of the other player?
>>76082159there's no need for a tank destroyer version since the gladiator covers it, but an assault gun mite be cool
>>76082159Ain't that just the HH hull salbre.
>>76082157> Chaos worshipping literal homosNo thank you
>>76082129Yes but a hotshot lasgun would probably cause a small explosion from the victim's internal fluids instantly vaporizing.
>>76082143Come to think of it, though I've seen plenty of official artwork of Guardsmen pit against Nids, I can't name a single major conflict where that was the focus. It's usually Space Marines who are the focus when Hive Fleets get beat back. I'm not sure the IG is mentioned at all in the first and second Tyrannic Wars.
>>76082169Those are pre-heresy DA.The Deathwing didn't exist yet.
>>76082173All chargers fight first.Then the opposing player picks a non-charged unit to fight after all the chargers.
>>76082178I am hoping for a baal Gladiator
>>76079183>I'm you, but stronger
>>76082190Imperial Armour 4 was Elysians (and Ordo Xenos) Vs Tyranids.
>>76081885That's why I said rule leaks
>>76082194The Deathwing existed. It was one of the six wings of the Hexagrammaton. It just didn't have a Native American theme going on yet.
>>76082190Imperial guard dies so space marines can be the heroes.
>>76082173All Charging units fight, one after another.Then players take turns activating their units which are in combat that didn't charge this turn one at a time starting with the player whose turn it isn't.
>>76082180As opposed to genetically degenerate homos?
>>76082169How so? The colors and heraldry look like they're on point.
>>76082294FW doesn't understand warhammer whatso ever
>>76082229It's 40KEverything is canon. Even the stupidest "yourdudes" fan fiction written by a 12 year old about his super secret chapter of turbo primaris marines is still canon.
>>76082305>It's 40K>Nothing is canon. Even the longest most arduously documented campaign can be invalidated at will.
>>76082133In my mind War Zone: Octarius is the coolest shit.
>>76082133orks vs orks
>>76080895Well, that was your riptide tax.
>>76082305Not true whatsoever the reissues of ian watsons space marine explicitly explain that its not entirely canon
>>76082321The IA shit is some of the worst material made for 40k, FW doesn't understand warhammer at all
>>76079591I just want the new Lelith to drop so I can sell my backlog of 4 old Leliths for absurd prices. Can't wait to get Incubi with that sweet cash.
>>76082361Im waiting for the new deldar stuff to come out so I can call it nuwarhammer garbage
>>76082369Want to buy old superior Lelith for 100 Dorra, my esteemed and valued potential customer? You wouldnt want to field Nuhammer Lelith, would you?
>>76082388I dont play 40k so no
>>76082305>Everything is canon.The Squat ships who’ve left the galaxy and conquered a nearby galaxy is canon?
>>76082305Everything is canon? I always guessed that Omegon’s death was like this. Now I know it’s canon.
>>76082418Yup.And those same squats also got eaten by Tyranids.
>>76082452B-But I thought it was canon that they ate the Tyranids!
>>76082460>>76082452>>76082418 The everythings canon approach reffers to unreliable narrators so theres some record somewhere that says the squats did x and another record that says y but which one is actually true is unknown
>>76082442And he was also sodomized to death by catachan devil toads.Everything's canon, nothing is canon, now go write your fanfic in silence.
Harsh but deserved.
>>76082489>all the Xenos DNAthis requires extra purging
>>76082523Space Marines aren't humanergo Space Marines are xenos
>>76082555I'll happily purge other chapters aswell
>>76079437Doesn't matter. Only matters if it's well painted.
>>76081346Losing Wings and the various combat boosts weakened him a lot relative to the codex. He'll probably be fine again once the supplement comes out, But I think you're better off with a Libby Dread or just going a totally different direction with the Sanguinor or Astorath instead.
>>76078712>TDfilenames are gay
>>76078712My schools makerspace will soon get a resin 3D printer so I can finally print actual minis. And I really want to make two or three small armies so I can try 40K with some friends. We are on the fence, and I am a fan of the "try it before you buy it" approach, so it might be the last push for all of us.How many models would you need for a small army? and how many points would a small army consist of? As for factions, I know one of them are a big Necron fan, and I really want to do Death Korps. The last would be Space marines, Nurlge or Orks. Probably Orks, since they are my favorite faction.
>>76080268GW forgot that HQs only get 2+ stats if the basic guy is 3+
>>76080098You'd also wear a fucking helmet but we are not exactly going for realism here
>>76081460Yeah, GW fucked us by not allowing us to take Vets in Carapace armour.
>>76082489These dudes sound awesome, can't wait for them to crush the rift when they march to war.
>>76082899A small army of most of those factions is quite a few models, not to mention the fact that actually learning how to 3D print well is an entire hobby by itself. I don’t recommend it for what you are describing. Go and buy an Elite box (or command if you want some terrain and are willing). An Elite box is $80 - and split with another friend that’s only $40 each. It’ll give you a few necron units and marine units so you can do what you’re describing that you want to do - try out the game. that’s of course assuming you even need models - when I started my friends and I used cardboard proxies until we built our armies.