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>>76069270


This is a thread about EDH/Commander, a 100-card singleton format that is currently the most popular way to play the game.


>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.
http://mtglands.com/

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>CARD SEARCH
https://scryfall.com


>TQ:
Post your favorite multi-color deck and the post the ratios of the colored spells
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>>76077972
Rotate that slightly and add angry eyes.
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Just the most based card of 2020 reporting in
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>>76077996
I like the card, I hate when my friends play it.
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>>76077996
I can't deny it. Picked one up for my Marhault deck and I gotta say, putting a Lure on this dude is something else.
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>>76077996
A good choice. For me though, it's Yurlok.
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Any lore on this chad
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>>76077956
>T1 Plains, Duelists' Heritage
>T2 Mountain, Sol Ring, Fervor
>T3 Bell Borca, Blazing Shoal Draco
Why yes I do like swinging for 64 commander damage on t3, why do you ask?
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>>76078029
He's from Dominaria and lives in the same area Tatyova does. He's her "mount"
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>>76077996
I run it in a Marath/Enrage deck.
I took out Star of extinction cause it was just to fucking slow... now that Blazing Sunsteel is a thing I'm looking to re-add it and mabye Reckoner once again.
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>>76077940
oh no
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If you could be platonic friends with any legendary creature, who would you choose?
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>>76078029
>Aesi is a primordial serpent, and the sole overlord of the city of Detroit. Locals revere him as a god, and offer tributes of bicycles and small pouches containing $3.50, with the belief that it will bring them good luck with fishing and harvests. Regardless of offerings, Aesi is known to thrash any boat that comes through his waters - that's how a Detroit nigga plays.
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>>76078035
Only 32 I think. Borca doesn't add, he merely takes the highest amount. So Draco + Shoal only once, right?
Assuming Draco was red and not colorless like in reality sadly.
>Duelists CMC 3 on turn 1?
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>>76078085
I mean Mana Crypt has been reprinted what, 3 times this year? Ketchup anon
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>>76078029
>On a distant, ocean-covered plane where monstrous creatures rule the seas, one in particular stands out in terms of temper and capriciousness: Aesi, an ancient sea serpent who claims the waters and all adjacent land masses of the Gyre Strait as its domain. Fickle and unpredictable, Aesi has little patience for trespassers, aquatic or otherwise. The only way to appease Aesi is to give offerings and tribute, but even that's not a sure solution: it's been known to take the offerings and attack anyways if it feels like it.

Was errata'd to >>76078069 last week. It's official.
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So this guy was built for MLD right?
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>all the dino lists are cutting Carnage Tyrant for the new Annoyed Altisaur and putting Jeweled Lotus in
Evolution occurs...
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>>76078066
I love this nigga's art like you wouldn't believe.
Makes me sad that it's tied to such a dogshit card.
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I don't have a GW deck, should I build this faggot?
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>>76078066
Mowu
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>>76078134
I too feel these pains
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>>76078134
>t.
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>>76078136
no
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>>76078136
Norin is mono-red, not Selesnya.
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>>76078085
Wow, I butchered that. Disregard that, I suck cocks

>>76078136
Or play Saffi
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>>76078136
yes
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>>76078131
Puny Altisaur
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>>76078145
Mowu's a close second, but I'm a bit more a cat person, so I say Falthis.
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>>76078193
BOOTA
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>>76078066
Eron is literally king of the Goblins so I'm sure he could find me a busty, shortstack wife
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>>76078066
Mr. Jin-Gitaxias
He could help Phyrexianize me so my legs wouldn't have thyroid pain when I run for long periods of time
I could finally do a marathon like everyone else
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>>76078131
>cutting Carnage Tyrant for the new Annoyed Altisaur
cringe
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>tfw I want a foil jeweled lotus for Teshar
such is live
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>>76078193
I worry that Saffi's primarily just a combo piece, and that might get stale after a few games.

I don't have much experience with GW decks, but I tried GW Selvala a couple times and found her to be fun. She ramps, she ensures that games never stall out, and she has a couple combos of her own, but group hug often backfires too.
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>>76078272
>falling for the foil meme
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>>76078272
FLUFFY Anon, is that you?
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>>76078286
foil artifacts look nice in a meta kinda way tho
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>>76078293
:^)
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>still playing mtg
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>>76078313
>still repeating the same thing over and over
Why do they give asylum members wifi access?
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>>76078316
All are welcome (to the wi-fi).
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I STILL PLAY IT
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>>76078279
The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the new uncommon loxodon from commander legends is busted.
Probably can pull some disgusting creature storm shenanigans that would make Animar blush... Or you can just build him as Modular tribal.
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>>76078355
>counters commander is busted
whoa...
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>>76078259
Well apparently Cascade > Trample + Hexproof uncounterable creature

If I can pull one tomorrow in the draft box I'm going to buy I'll test it out but I think Carnage has way more utility since most of the time only Cyclonic Rift can hit it in my playgroup
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>>76078369
Yeah, Mowu terrorized the format before the ban, as everyone knows.
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>>76078401
Not really, but if you're already on the timmy mindset of I PLAY NEW DINOSAUR then yeah, it makes sense.
>Two dinos for the price of one!!!
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Best Court in the new set?
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>>76078471
If you can hold onto it the green one is superior.
What a surprise.
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>>76078035
>>76077956
>Borca again. Sorry.
Oooh cascade. Takes the greatest CMC of each card you flip by. Man I should start a list...
Damn if only Red and White weren't so fucking uninventive with set mechanics. Or maybe this is more work than it deserves since +1 Counters can break 50+ without doing backflipping in card research.
>On that note. Why isn't Borca W/R/Black? or Just W/B? He's literally a Orzhov contracted ghost
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>>76078471
I want a Naya Monarch
>but not jared, I want to selfishly keep my card draw.
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>>76078471
Maybe if it was each upkeep

>>76078498
I mean, there's always the new precon Boros legend Wyleth but he's pretty shitty and ugly.
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Talk me out of building Rebec
I want to Construct the Great Work and be rewarded with God Machines
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>>76078498
He's literally the ghost of a Boros cop. Featured heavily in the ravnica novels. Former partner of Agrus Kos.
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>>76078543
Rebec was Yawgmoth's cocksleeve and cheated on her husband
Do you really want used goods? Disloyal used goods at that.
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I'm thinking of brewing a deck with Szat and Gilanra for a non-simic card draw and ramp.

But I can't think of a viable strategy that I can incorporate that I haven't done before. I already have Gitrog bigmana/eldrazi deck, an aristocrat deck on monoB and orzhov, and 2 simic decks with edric and Tatyova.

Can I have some interesting ideas/themes to go with on this pairing?
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>>76078571
>canonically BLACKED
anon I said to convince me why I SHOULDN't
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>>76078581
>Can I have some interesting ideas/themes to go with on this pairing?
You should think about how you want to win and build to that

>>76078571
>Rebec was Yawgmoth's cocksleeve and cheated on her husband
IIRC Rebec never cheated on her husband. Even when Yawgmoth was about to take the final step into Phyrexia for the last time and become a god, she stayed behind
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>>76078471
It's alright, not that white has that much card draw to choose from to begin with. I like that the flier you get from it makes it easier to regain the monarch if it ever gets taken from you, at least.
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I like the flavor but would he really be broken if he gave you monarch on ETB instead?
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>>76078571
No, Rebbec was faithful to the end. Yawgmoth remained a seething incel, still afflicted by his oneitis when he finally returned to Dominaria in Apocalypse.
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>>76078647
Its for flavour, him fighting to take his crown back etc.
But the 'you cant become the monarch this turn' part is fucking stupid
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>>76078536
I have like four of that card in Italian.
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>>76078647
Just run him with all the Torpor Orb effects and use the Courts and whatnot to become monarch.
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Which do you think is better /edhg/-uys, Nettle Drone or Brimstone trebuchet?

For context. I have a Rakdos, lord of riots Artifacts deck, and I am currently running nettle drone for a damage output to be able to cast rakdos turn 4 without attacking. I have mystic forge in the deck, and with the drone being devoid, is castable off of it.

Here's where the problem arises. I am also running The Abyss. If i play the abyss, im going to eventually have to destroy the nettle drone, but I don't run into that same problem with the trebuchet. Trebuchet's untap trigger will never activate, while almost all the creatures in the deck are colorless, so the drone's will activate a lot.

Should i run the nettle drone for potential nut plays, or the trebuchet for the safety of an artifact creature?
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>>76078581
Graveyard/Reanimator seems like your only real option in golgari if you don't want overlap with your other decks. The "tribute" style demons that make you sac stuff on upkeep will work really well with Szat, and Gilanra can help you turbo out something like ever after early and keep the deck churning by giving cantrips to all your demons and fatties in the lategame. Sounds kinda neat.
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>can't have two Sakishimas partnered together
everything about this mechanic is bad
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>>76078679
Nettle Drone. The only time you run into a problem with Nettle Drone is if you have a single specific card in your deck also on the field and no other creatures. That's one very specific scenario. Meanwhile, the Nettle Drone will also dodge All Is Dust which is a solid boardwipe for you to be running if most of your creatures are colorless, while the Trebuchet will get incidentally hit by any "destroy all artifacts" effects.
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>>76078678
I guess I'll rely on Unquestioned Authority or Beloved Chaplain to gain Monarch. I'm not a fan of the courts
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>>76078679
>Rakdos, lord of riots artifacts
Sick. To answer your question though, I'd say neither. Why wait on a 3 or 4 mana creature to have to make it all the way around the table when your pal Flame Jab can enable rakdos for the rest of the game?

If you pressed me to answer between the original two, I'd go with nettle drone because he's both a better creature and cheaper to cast. Just because you have the abyss doesn't make him a bad pinger; remember, the strength of symmetrical effects in magic is that you get to choose when you cast them. hope that helps.
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>>76078695

I do like going for the Demon tribal theme for these two. Thanks for the other ideas too anon.
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>>76077940
>TQ:
Post your favorite multi-color deck and the post the ratios of the colored spells
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>>76078647
>>76078654
>>76078678
You guys are thinking about this all wrong. He's Naya Nekusar.
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Reminder smuggy was never funny
with the exception of a fluke here or there
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Tell me the most fun tribe
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>>76078889
Goblins?
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>>76078903
Too played out
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>>76078919
Eldrazi
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>>76078879
obsessed
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>>76078889
Artifacts.
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>>76078272
the non full art is down to around 60€ here in euroland, US prices ought to catch up somewhat in the cooming weeks.
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>>76078654
Just Flash him at end of someones turn lmao
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>>76078948
too basic
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>>76078960
Zombies
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>>76078889
Shades
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>Commander's Plate listed in White staples
heh
I get it
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>>76078957
Finally a use for this
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>>76078889
Dinosaurs
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>>76078953
100%
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>>76078967
is it really tribal if none of your creatures care about each other
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>>76078889
cleric fling
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>>76078967
>Shademan
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>>76078889
probably artifacts even though im an enchantment fag by preference.
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>>76079003
Finally a use for this.
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>>76078051
It occured to me that Jared Carthalion is the perfect commander for my enrage dinos. Time for my Jacques Le Vert to go to binder hell.
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>>76078889
Insects
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>>76078889
Rebels
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any guess what new commander's we'll get out of the forgotten realms set coming?
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>>76079060
>Jacques Le Vert, Dinos
You mean Grimlock?

Anyway nice thought about Jared Carthalion, but he's a card that requires other pieces to be effective at all, meanwhile Marath is a card that enables the rest of your deck.
Casting Jared? Your opponents are better off with the extra card, or you are SOL if they counter/remove, and you're giving them yet another card when you cast it again.
Casting Marath? Sets up the rest of your deck synergies, and if they counter/remove it, it becomes stronger like a sayan for the next time .

Don't fall into the trap Anon. I myself will be testing Jared in the 99, but he's not a suitable enrage commander.
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>>76079170
Stop this meme
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>>76079241
Pushed or garbage, no inbetween. They will all either retread tired concepts, or revolve around an overly-specific set mechanic that wont have enough support, and will never be supported again.
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>>76079241
Jon Irenicus in Grixix colors. JK you'll get Minsc, Elminster and Drizzt.
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>>76079241
Elminster, Drizzt, Modenkin, and whoever the least stereotypical female sidekick is.
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>>76079245
I love my weird deer husband, but it's kind of disgusting how many themes he's just the best choice for. Even when they build a Naya legendary for a theme, decent odds are that Marath's still a solid choice.
Sucks for Jeskaibros that Gnostros is such a bad imitation of him.
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>>76079241
Getting more God cards would be neat. As for dnd settings go the many gods of FR are it's most unique feature. I mean it's not the feature people focus on but it is FRs more interesting feature. however it will probably be wasted on who-cares-npcs that will probably be new faces pushing whatever the newest dnd splat books.
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>>76079327
>Even when they build a Naya legendary for a theme
Yeah. despite being corely green, it's almost like there aren't that many good commanders choices for those colors compared to other combinations.
WEIRD RIGHT!?
>/venting sarcasm.
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>find out some of my coworkers at my new job play magic
>one of them is an actual unkempt smelly neckbeard
>the two decks he brought in for lunch break are golos and first sliver
I didnt want to believe people were actually like this
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Is Jirina Kudro attractive
I can't tell
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>>76079385
No. She's transparently based on Tessa Thompson who is ugly
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>>76079385
No
>>76079374
Where do you work that doesn't fire people for being unkempt and smelly?
Walmart?
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The fact that MPC exists makes me never want to purchase actual Magic cards again.
Dropping 30 bucks for (more) worthless paper does kinda feel bad tho.
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>>76079374
first sliver food chain or tribal?
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>>76079516
worse lim dul's right?
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>>76079516
If I had access to black I would run this card.

>>76079603
That card takes too long to resolve to be worth from what I have seen.
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>>76079657
>takes too long to resolve
?
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>>76079706
only takes too long if your card quality is shit.
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>>76079367
I-I'm playable, right, guys?
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>>76079706
>>76079732
like I said I never used it personally but the people that have used it against me usually do it like 5 times or more.
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Late to the party here, but what are your general thoughts on the ZNR MDFCs? In particular the unexciting ones, like Sejiri Shelter or Kazandu Mammoth.

I wasn't too impressed with them at first, but now I'm starting to think they'll be staples in the long run. The way I feel is that they pad out your land count - i.e. if you normally only have 36 lands in your deck, you can use these to go up to 38 or 40. That way you're less likely to miss a land drop but, if you flood out, you get a spell instead. It just feels like decks are a bit more consistent this way.
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>>76079790
>That way you're less likely to miss a land drop but, if you flood out, you get a spell instead.
It's a nice theory, but it still needs to be a spell that you actually want to cast. Too many of them aren't.
Besides, if you build your deck correctly, you shouldn't encounter screw that often at 35-36 lands.
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>>76079790
>excited to go back to Zendikar because I finally built a lands deck
>the main new lands mechanic doesn't interact at all with things that care about lands
At least they brought back landfall...again...
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>>76079821
i have no restraint when it comes to running 35 lands or more. I keep my deck at 30 lands atm and if any of those modal lands were worth it I would probably go for the concept. But alas besides the dual lands they are mostly irredeemable to replace an actual card with. And slowing down with tapped lands takes its toll unless you are playing at lower power.
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is it just me or do the etched foils look like shit?
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>>76079901

I feel the same way. They look pretty basic for a special type of foiling
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>>76078647
People hating this card should just stick to blue
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>>76079245
I don't like toolbox commanders that can slot into every deck.
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>>76079790
Been toying with them quite a bit since we got them. A lot of them are just unplayable because they're effects that are too niche to be desirable even with the added utility of being a land when you want one. Even the best of them aren't auto-includes, but the top 4-5 of them are good enough to at least be worth considering at most power levels.
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Why don't they use touched-up photos for card art anymore?
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>>76079901
Gotta agree, got a Bell Borca etched foil and the border and foiling are so dark it makes the art seem murky.
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>>76078889
Alternate wincons
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>>76079516
Soul
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>>76079901
You mean like normal foils, or they look like shit in a new, exciting way?
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>>76080007
I think each color combination should have 3-4 toolbox commanders in case someone wants to build a theme that doesn’t have explicit support.
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>>76080017
Probably because it looks bad like nine times out of ten.
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>>76078889
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Is Aristocrats fun
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>>76080110
No
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>>76080120
ok
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>>76079374
Dude what the fuck why are you talking about me on 4chan?
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>>76080106
Sultai Eldrazi tribal is unironically a pretty solid deck.
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>>76080213
Sultai? More like slutai.
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>>76080065
They look glittery.
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>>76078889
Legendary Tribal that isn't "find an answer with no effort" Sisay.
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>>76080354
>tfw can’t choose “Legend” as your creature type with Karona any more
A dream died that day.
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>>76080417
You had to remind me. That would of been like my old Saskia legend tribal deck on crack.
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>>76080179
your choices in commanders suck and I'm not actually going to trade my sliver hive or any of the slivers I have just sitting around
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>>76079432
shipping warehouse
>>76079586
tribal
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>>76080462
Okay that actually makes sense.
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Why don't they reprint Grave Pact
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>>76080531
They have though. Also it's not that expensive, I got an original a few weeks ago for like $8.
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>>76077972
>42% sacrifice effects
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>>76078647
do you think giving him a commander's plate is worth it? protection from blue and black for 4?
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>>76080065
they look like somone spray painted them
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>>76080700
It's also +3/+3, which isn't an insignificant buff, especially if you want to give him trample to hit through blockers or something like that.
Plus, it makes him immune to any targeting black removal or blue bounce spells, and you can target a black and/or blue deck at the table with his first ability specifically to make sure you can pick the monarchy up.
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>white status report
card draw niggern in boros is good
1/4 cat girl anthem is wierdly powerful
Radiant can sit on my face
monarch is good
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>>76080839
>monarch is good
I think it would be flavorful and good for the color overall if they made "gain the monarchy" something primary in white and brought it back regularly, even outside of dedicated monarch sets like CL and Conspiracy.
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Should I buy CMR singles now or wait a couple days? I'm not getting any money mythics, just random stuff like the familiars and Boros cards
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>>76079342
I would suck some mean dick if they did the FR gods Theros style but made them all of the wedges/shards instead of the 2 color combos.
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>>76080839
>cat
>girl
anon...
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>>76080875
uhh, anon, Monarch is a Green mechanic, that's why it got tyhe most enablers
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>>76081003
Its a female lion with a disgusting flat chest
>Prava achieved renown for having the lowest mortality rate in the Steel Legion. Her tactical awareness is second to none, allowing her to position her troops into efficient formations that get them home alive. Recently, her success in battle and enormous popularity among the soldiers of the Legion have earned her the rank of praefectus.
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>>76080920
if what your buying is below 5 dollars just do it. if not wait awhile. every set with premium packs have had the standard versions sell for nothing on the secondary market so far
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>>76081055
Wait Prava is a girl? Fuck, thought it was a dude
Buying a box of Pokemon tomorrow instead, only card I want is Jeweled Lotus but I'm not risking 120 for a dud box
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>>76081072
We have nips poking through metal on kemba big and now we have two divots prava small The catgirl spectrum is finalized.
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>>76081072
>Buying a box of Pokemon tomorrow
Are you underage or a pedophile?
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>>76081055
>draw a boy
>call it a girl in a lore paragraph
I will now buy your card

someone PLEASE make a tasteful boob plate edit
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If I want to use a bunch of incremental life trigger effects do I just make a Heliod deck? it seems pretty easy
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>>76078029
why is this a mythic? both of his abilities are incredibly basic and boring.
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>>76081115
Wait, Ajani's dead?
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>>76081154
The face and secondary commanders of precons are always mythic, it's just how they're designated
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>>76081158
No, just off-plane or away from home at the point in the story the card takes place in
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So if you just kill Doran then his entire deck becomes worthless?
Assault Formation is the only other toughpower effect in the colours
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>>76081173
Did they really have to make the card so "Mufasaesque", then?
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>>76081158
>Planeswalker
>Dying
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>>76081204
Gideon
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>>76081217
Who?
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>>76081190
1) Even if Doran dies you still have a shitton of blockers to hold the line while you re-establish yourself
2) You are in abzan, that means you have access to tutors. Put a few in so you can grab assault formation easier
3) You're in fucking green. Ramp you bitch, ramp so you can keep playing Doran even if he dies.
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>>76081220
Oh and
4) You are in a white. If Assault formation is destroyed you have the tools to recur it.
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>>76081190
There's Belligerent Brontodon, Gauntlets of Light, Huatli the Sun's Heart, Solid Footing and Treefolk Umbra, from what I could rapidly check
Other than that, you are in green and black, you are going to have enough mana to cast it
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TFW no white graveyard tutors
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>monowhite akroma rising in price
Ok, come on guys, we can stop joking now
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>>76081382
NEVER underestimate angelfags
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Why did everyone freak out about Jeweled Lotus again? Black Lotus is only strong in vintage because it enables plays that can just about end the game on the turn it's played. It's hilarious how Jeweled Lotus preordered for $120, when it's currently $50 and dropping.
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>>76081406
Everything you just said is retarded except for that last sentence
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I wouldn't play Sol Ring if I could only use it to cast my commander
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>>76081382
Give me Akroma tech!
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>>76081435
Odric
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How is it drafting commander legends? Anyone here done it yet?
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>>76081435
Okay, anon.
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>>76079783
He has been so good in my groups meta. Fuck
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>want to build simic enchantress
>see there's a simic enchantment legend
>no longer want to build simic enchantress
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>>76081115
Yes
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>>76081788
She's garbage and no one players her so you should be fine retaining your hipster status.
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>>76081484
I played in two drafts. First one I played Izzet pirates and managed to win through politics and lots of aggro.
Second one I played a terrible mono black artifacts and managed to come second, once again through politics. I played kingmaker by helping the Izzet pirates player in that pod untap his vargo commander with my staff of domination after it was permanently tapped down by that blue monarch enchantment.

Its fun. Three very dangerous decks I noticed were orzhov tokens led by that reverent medium chick, the turtle and a sakashima akroma flyers deck that would have one shot killed us all by turning his entire board into akroma's with sakashima's will if I hadn't removed Sakashima as it resolved, leading to his entire board wiping as the legend rule came back into effect.
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>>76077940
>Post your favorite multi-color deck and the post the ratios of the colored spells
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>Hadn't read Liesa a second time since the original German leaks
>The leaks translated her ability as "Whenever a player casts a spell, you gain 2 life."
>Actual card does the complete opposite
Shit, I was looking forward to finding a slot for her in Karlov.
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>>76081115
Karlov's better for the job. Monowhite's not a great place to be.
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>>76081115
Just play Oloro and have the deck be mono white and use all the hybrid mana spells
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Who would you guys partner with tormod?
I'm not really seeing any ones that stand out
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>>76082176
Sakashima and Gyruda
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With krark's thumb can you pick the losing flip with krark as your commander so you get another storm stack?
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>>76082287
Yes.
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Has anybody ever actually used this to counter a Cyclonic Rift?
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>>76081852
>Three very dangerous decks I noticed were orzhov tokens led by that reverent medium chick, the turtle and a sakashima akroma flyers deck that would have one shot killed us all by turning his entire board into akroma's with sakashima's will if I hadn't removed Sakashima as it resolved, leading to his entire board wiping as the legend rule came back into effect.
That would have happened regardless since Sakashima would be a copy of Akroma without her Mirror Gallery effect.
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>>76082347
Wot?
Sakashima doesnt lose his 'the legend rule doesnt apply' rule when he copies something.
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>>76082341
Doesn't even look like a real card.
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>>76082347
Retard
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>>76082341
that art is awful
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>>76082341
>has anyone actually used this card
Ftfy
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>>76082176
Ramirez puts you in U/B, which is ideal for Zombie synergy, and he can sometimes yoink stuff out of your graveyard, which would trigger Tormod. Otherwise, you can always just play Esior for some cheap, reliable protection or Sakashima as Tormod 2.
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>>76078647
He really should have gotten the vigor effect when you didn’t have the monarch
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>>76082358
>>76082421
There are two ways to play out that scenario and the Sakashima player picked the wrong one to begin with.
Option one
>Choose Akroma
>All your creatures, including the Sakashimakroma, become exact copies of Akroma
>Sakashimakroma no longer has the Mirror Gallery effect, because Sakashima's Will overrode its copy ability and just turned it into vanilla Akroma
>Everything dies to the Legend rule

Option two
>Choose Sakashimakroma
>Everything becomes Sakashimakroma with the Mirror Gallery ability
>Nothing dies

It sounds like someone fucked up anyway, because Sakashima's Will doesn't target, you choose the creature to copy as it resolves. So killing Sakashima in response could easily just be remedied by choosing any nonlegendary creature instead, preserving the board.
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>>76082520
I'm not reading your long ass paragraph because you got embarrassed about being stupid
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>>76082534
I'm not even >>76082347, anon.
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>>76082543
No.
I'm not doing it.
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>>76082550
I'll make it real quick for you:
Sakashima's mirror gallery effect won't carry over if an external copy effect is applied to it.
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>>76082520
Hm, not retard.
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>>76082582
You got me I tried not to read that but I couldn't stop
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Why doesnt circle of protection, actually give protection.
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>>76078134
It's soulless art.
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>>76082341
why does that mage have high heels
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>>76082949
Never seen a tranny before
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>>76082949
>>76082985
>never seen a tranny before
God I'm so jealous of him if thats the case. All the trannies I've seen were ugly as fuck.
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Manifest cards currently spiking.

Could be random specs, or insider info about upcoming sets.
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>>76083024
buy megamorph cards, this is your only warning
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>>76078029
Cool abilities, cgi art
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>>76078029
>literally just tatyova
why?
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>>76083123
>cool abilities

>>76082849
Why is Indestructible Aura not an aura nor does it provide any indestructibility
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>>76082849
probably because when CoP were first printed protection wasn't a keyword yet. CoP cards came in alpha-beta time and first time protection was used was in Legends, if I remember correctly.
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>>76082176
Thrasios. Just go full sultai faggotry.
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>>76083245
Not just Tatyova. It's Azusa Tatyova
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>>76083263
bruh
very wrong
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How can a magic card with the word "soul" in its name be completely devoid of any soul, whatsoever? This is literally the most soulless cashgrab magic card i have ever seen
and its going straight into aurelia, the warleader
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>>76083530
Its the haircut. Fuck I hate that shit so much.
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>>76083530
It's designed for new players to be a intro deck in a unofficial format within a loreless set.
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>>76083530
Part of the appeal of boros for me is how well the two colors synergize if you're willing to get creative. People say white and red suck at drawing cards and ramping, but what they do well is red has wheel effects and white is good at bringing things back from the graveyard. A well timed wheel of fortune can refill your whole hand and also you'll have cards like bag of holding and reya dawnbringer, etc. which give you back the cards you just discarded.

Magic players are just too stupid to learn how to get creative and need everything dumbed down for them
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>>76083583
Dude I aint shelling out for a wheel of fortune.
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>>76083550
Okay, but the last two precons had actually interesting commanders. I liked the dimir one quite a bit because it had several different directions you could take it if you wanted.

Wyleth has basically one direction it wants to go, and is undercosted specifically as a way to powercreep that color in the format. That means there was basically no effort put into the design of this card. Its just your basic 'do thing, draw a card' shit
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>>76083594
Okay fine. Pic related is a dollar and draws you more cards than wheel of fortune and is a 7/5 flyer to boot
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>>76083625
>combat commander one and combat commander 2 were much more interesting
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Anyone have a list
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>>76083594
27 cents
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>>76083594
This one is only like $7
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>>76083655
That would not work in the scenario anon described
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>>76083594
$2 you absolute fucking faggot. Now quit bitching about the prices of cards. There's always budget alternatives.
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>>76083683
>wait 4 turns to get cards
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>>76083594
25 cents
Literally wheel of fortune on a 5/5 flying body
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>>76083594
>>76083702
Here you go. Its a white mana more, instant speed, is 6 fucking cents on tcgplayer, and more often than not will still get you 4 or 5 cards.
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>>76083702
Just run As Foretold or Electrodominance to cheat it.
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>>76083712
>has to untap on turn 6-7 and have a target to attack
>>76083702
>>76083680
I'm not even the guy you're arguing with, but if you 3 arent being ironic, you're probably not playing the game very often.
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>>76083735
My bad
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>>76083747
Shattered Perception doesn't refill your hand, dude. It draws you cards equal to the number you discarded, which is very different from a wheel.
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>>76083752
I'm not running a card with the most boring planeswalker on it.
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>>76083747
>turn 6-7
U wot m8?
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>>76083771
Fair enough. I won't shit on you for that.
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>>76083776
How expensive is this fag
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>>76083760
that was what I was implying, yes. Thanks for agreeing that you're a retard
>>76083776
>look how cheap this is! You just need a 30 dollar card to conditionally enable it.
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>>76083792
>not buying the precons when they come out
Outed yourself as a newfag
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>>76083776
>move to a new city after buying this
>first playgroup I get has a “no mana rocks” rule
This sucks senpai
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>>76083820
>“no mana rocks” rule
what
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These

>>76083644
>>76083667
>>76083683
>>76083712

are far different than these

>>76083752
>>76083655

Good wheels cost money for a reason. Also, in stronger pods, you're rarely hellbent. Yes, I'd love to wheel considering I only have two cards in my hand but one is Pyroblast and the other is Chaos Warp so I kind of need them
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>>76083820
>new playgroup has play green or lose the game rule
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>when you take thanksgiving week off and drive to your hometown to play mtg with family and friends
Such a comfy feeling bros
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>>76083832
It still doesn't change the fact that its not hard to draw cards in boros. You just have to get creative.
Honestly, mono red has tons of artifact synergy too if you know what you're doing
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Daily reminder that Boros is actually great, and it’s a sign of a bad deck builder when they’re unable to make it work
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>>76078889
Sphinxs.
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>>76082520
Right, I forgot you could copy the Sakashima. Can't imagine why you would need to cast Will if you're in that position, but that slipped my mind.
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>>76078448
Vampire Nighthawk isn't a bad card in any way, but Nighthawk Scavenger is just a stronger card in every way. Scavenger is likely going to be a 7/3 in most games, minimum a 5/3 for the same cost with the same keywords.
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>>76083874
>It still doesn't change the fact that its not hard to draw cards in boros
It's not "hard" but it's vastly inferior to what the other colors get.
>Honestly, mono red has tons of artifact synergy
No shit. There's a reason mono-R has been great in EDH for a long time.

Though mono-U has better artifact synergy
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>>76083987
I legitimately feel as tho vampire nighthawk is too weak for commander now.
Fight me
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>>76084063
Depends on your playgroup
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>>76084063
>Fight me
Nah, I don't feel the need to fight someone I disagree with. I can see where you are coming from, but still disagree with.

I might cut Gifted Aetherborn for Nighthawk Scavenger though.
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Just opened two seraphic greatswords in a row in one of my frivolous boxes. Imagine having that in a draft lol
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>>76084063
There are too many factors. It depends on the deck and the meta. I wouldn't run him in my Yawgmoth cEDh deck but maybe in Volrath because he's a backup holder for Strata Scythe

>>76083801
>giving WotC money
ISHYGDDT
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>>76079790
I run this over Regrowth now. The 1 mana difference hasn't mattered, and the utility of being a land or a recover spell is great.
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>>76084055
Yeah, but other people are shit at deckbuilding and just want to take their list off of edhrec.
Boros can be better than that, anon.
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>>76079790
Malakir Rebirth is fucking golden.
It's a land that sometimes lets me save my creatures.
But I didnt pad out my land total, I just replaced some of my lands with them. So far I havent regretted it
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>>76084146
>Boros can be better than that, anon.
I've made a few Boros decks and they performed "okay". I'd say they were just above my old border only decks in power level and I used them to compete with jank shit like Muldrotha zombie tribal and other decks that aren't finely tuned
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Looking to finish off a couple decks and order cards before I come home from uni over December.
Definitely going to make a mono-green Nemata deck because I have a doubling season and parallel lives just sitting in my collection.
I'm not sure what the second deck should be though. Have most of the cards for angel tribal and a beefy selesnya collection on top of that. Right now it's a toss up between Lyra and Shalai, so any commander or card recs would be appreciated.
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>>76084250
>playing the opposite of rakdos
It's like you don't want your opponents to simultaneously hate you and love you
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>>76084305
Rakdos are my two most beloved colours combined and form the foundation of all my favourite three colour combos.
But I dont have a single Rakdos deck.
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Anyone ever tried to build Lurrus Eggs?

Something like sacrificing eggs and draining with Marionete Master/Disciple of the Vault and drawing from the eggs each turn
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>>76084320
Having spent my soul-searching years in EDH playing blue, dimir, and even dipping into s*ltai and s*mic, I've come to the realization that Rakdos and its nongreen constituents make for the most interactive magic experience.
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>>76084305
Well I wanted to make another self-sac deck but I already have Judith. The deck is pretty jank and basically just ramp to sink into nemata but it has a fairly high win rate playing with friends on tabletop sim.
The angel tribal is finally trying to make up the sunk cost from when I first started playing and made a mess of a selesnya deck that was basically just good cards.
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>>76084424
>>76084250
>angel tribal
Don't. If you MUST, then go with Karametra.

>>76084320
You're missing out
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>>76084520
>Angel Tribe without red
Are you ok Anon?
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>>76083594
Just slam Alhammarret's archive in there
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>>76084531
Considered making the new Akroma with Kediss and honestly I think I'm leaning towards it, just seems more interesting and focused than if I did the same in selesnya.

>>76084520
Fortunately it's not true angel tribal. Basically just good/synergistic angels with stuff like dromoka, asceticism, etc to protect them whilst I desperately try to tutor/draw for vizier or spike feeder combo.
My main worry is that the deck doesn't really have any direction other than consistently getting good cards out that're hard to remove.
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>>76082949
They would've added tits and/or a bulge but that would've been too on the nose.
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>>76084648
forgot pic
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>>76082341
>>76082949
>>76084649
Original voidslime art already kinda hot tho
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>>76084531
Look, I think all tribal is retarded, doubly so for Angels.

>>76084648
>Considered making the new Akroma
Fucking awful

>>76084702
Absolutely based
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>>76084666
I think the familiar partners would be better in the 99.
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>>76084666
Angels are expensive, high mana cost. I'd say splashing some green for ramp would be a solid move.

>Mayael the Anima
>Rienne, Angel of Rebirth
>Marisi, Breaker of the Coil
>Zacama, Primal Calamity
>Samut, Voice of Dissent
All of these could work for a Naya Angel Tribe commander for different reasons.
These would be good
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>>76084736
What the fuck did you just say about us?
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How does pic related usually turn out in game? I own a copy but have never played it. It seems like great fun with friends but hell with randos.
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>>76085051
this is the mario party of magic, do NOT play this with friends
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>>76084648
Just pick her if your group is fine with it.
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>>76085051
Its a stax piece
The tax is too easy to pay in a 40 life format, no one will ever draw anything other than lands.
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>>76085062
But my friends unironically like Mario Party from time to time.
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>>76085112
sadists, all of you
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>>76085051
Terribly. You will only be running it if you can completely negate the potential downside for yourself.
The 2 life is meaningless in EDH and every single person will be paying 2 every time. There are too many other reanimation or recursive style decks floating around to risk this.
If you realistically see it as a bait card that will pull removal to it it is fine.
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>>76085062
This is the Dokopon Kingdom of magic.
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>>76085051
Looks perfect for my Nekusar deck actually.

>I cast Wheel of Fortune
>"Alright, everyone show your hands and pick what people mill."
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>>76084857
damn that's actually kind of amusing.
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>>76085161
>put a card that turns draws off in a nekusaur deck.
lol.
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>>76085051
>>76085126
This is actually good in UB Taigam. If Taigam is out it doesn't affect me, but if he's not it's a lose-lose for my opponents since my graveyard is a better hand than my hand.
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>>76085227
Would it though? Nekusar decks already put pressure on people's life totals, giving them an option to pay life to stop my draw would be a losing proposition for them because I have the same option for them.

If they're taking between one and four damage per draw on top of paying life to stop my draw, they'll run out of road quickly. Especially if you start hitting wheels.

40 life is a lot, but it gets ground down fast with Nekusar at the table.
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>>76085280
Nah you're not understanding that anon. Zur's Weirding is a replacement effect, it literally turns off draw. Nekusar and all his toys won't trigger as long as it's out.
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>>76082985
hmm I can't recall ever seeing a tranny IRL. They seem more common in america.
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>>76085313
Ahh, shit, yeah. Fuck. I thought it would be like Phyrexian Tyranny or Breathstealer's Crypt, both of which are a bitch when layered with Nekusar and Nekusar life effects.

Thank you for removing my misunderstanding Anon.
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>>76084758
Why not her?
What are angels other than humanoid birds?
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>>76085478
I don't think she does enough for a tribal deck. Eggs is a whole different theme and strategy.
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>>76081204
Domri
Dack
URZA
Serra

U wot m8
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>>76083530
>draw 2, 3, then 4 additional cards every turn
>opponent tries to defend himself but this nigga has trample
>decomes not alive due to doublestrike, vigialnce, trample, and haste
>I am ending each turn with 7 cards in hand
This dude is fucked up and i hate to say it but just what boros needed
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>>76085581

New, move whenever
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>>76085586
>draw 2, 3, then 4 additional cards every turn
"Hey, uh, Anon, before you move to combat..."
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>>76085633
>comes attached which draws me a card in your path
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>>76085633
This is kinda hot
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Whoops sorry
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>>76085690
>unmorphs naming black on wyleth
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>>76085280
1. it does turn draws off
2. to turn it back on a single player takes 2 instead of all 3 of the nekusaur opponents taking at least 1. In the long run you aren't dealing as much damage.
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>>76078516
>he can't play around Jared
ngmi
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>>76078654
>But the 'you cant become the monarch this turn' part is fucking stupid
absolutely

>oh no, you can't give him haste and attack the player you just made monarch and get it back!!!
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>>76085633
>6 mana
Lmfao
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>>76085969
Due to the nature of how monarch movement and "turns" work in EDH it reads "you cannot become the monarch in the next 4 turns."
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>>76079060
>enrage dinos
>not pic related
what? are you kidding me

>Marath deals X damage to any target. X can’t be 0.
>pinger in the cz
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>>76085633
If you're at a point where the Wyleth player has equipment that can be stolen then, if they've built they're deck right, he already has indestructible, protection, hexproof, or something similar. If you're powering this out early with dark ritual and similar then there won't be any equipment to steal and you just wasted several cards to kill a commander they'll recast in a turn or two.
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>>76086055
He references the command zone without referencing it. Only a loser would play him as a general.
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>>76086057
No. You just doomblade it instantly as soon as its cast. It is a combat reliant boros card, it is shit all around. Sorry if you like it, you like shitty cards.
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>>76086126
Even if you're not playing commander his ability works, essentially rewarding you for playing him through taxing effects.
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>>76086139
I wouldn't play him cause I like my equipment decks mono-white, but you underestimate the ability of decks built to protect their commander to protect their commander.
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>>76086189
You overestimate the combat step and underestimate interaction.
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>>76085690
If there's enough equipment to be worth stealing, Wyleth is probably bigger than 4/4
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>>76086153
He is fine in the 99 but you suck AIDS dicks if you are playing him as your general. He was my first pre-con and how I got into EDH. I still think any card that has wording on them accommodating the command zone in any way is peak faggotry.
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>>76086126
90% of legendaries starting with Innistrad block were designed with EDH in mind, whether or not they were in a precon.
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>>76086237
The difference between Marath and pic related is solely the presence or absence of an X that is never referenced in the card's rules text.
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>>76086211
Nah.
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>>76086288
Yes. Proving there is no reason to specifically format cards to accommodate the command zone.
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>>76086237
No one's impressed that you avoid cards that work favourably with the rules of the format.
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>>76086273
What are you attempting to shill? That it is okay because 9/10th suck? That someone shouldn't dislike cards built for commander specifically because some anon says some dumb shit he can't back up?
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>>76086318
Which Marath isn't. The text is the same. If anything, Marath is weaker in the context of EDH because you HAVE to cast it multiple times to get to higher numbers of counters, while Verazol lets you scale up if you've ramped higher without losing any counters from the command tax.
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>>76086318
But it doesn't specifically accommodate the command zone. It happens to work with the command zone, by design of course, but it doesn't specifically or exclusively interact with it.
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>>76086332
Do you think people anonymously post so others will be impressed by it?

>>76086356
lol.
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>>76086361
>had to add exclusively to her reaching argument
You even mentioned it was by design, meaning it was specifically written as it was for the command zone. You are the one who added exclusively because you couldn't argue against my point without putting words in my mouth I didn't say.
Very amateur and weasely.
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>>76086374
Absolutely
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>>76086437
You have a strange outlook on life. Anonymity exists solely to remove any personality or social credence to a post.
Go back, you don't understand this place.
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>>76086400
Specifically implies exclusively. The fact is that the card works whether or not you're playing commander. Even if its design leverages the rules of the format they do not acknowledge them.
If you want to object to cards that work with the rules of the format then you'll quickly get into absurd territory where all good cards are evil and only played by dicks.
It really sounds like you'd rather be playing Canadian Highlander.
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>>76078962
Perfect
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>>76086469
People can seek validation withou having a public identity. Attention whoring is attention whoring whether or not you use a trip.
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>>76086543
I'm not doing that though. You are the one trying to form some larger than my post scenario here. Not me.
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>>76086586
Your behaviour is transparent, play coy all you want. All this "look at me I'm the biggest commander purist" is an online dick measuring contest, that's all there is to it.
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>>76086543
You seem to be making it a bigger deal than the other guy. He has tried to downplay your claims multiple times while you won't let it go.
You seem to be the one seeking validation.
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>>76086189
>people keep forgetting that I can attach boots to Balan at instant speed
Always funny.
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>>76086609
He stated a personal opinion my dude. Why are you so tilted? He doesn't play with you and he doesn't make the rules for your group.
He is right you don't get 4chan at all.
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>>76086618
I don't know I think the other guy has a point.
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>>76080575
No matter how much you simictrannies push the narrative, Gruul will always be Chad colours.
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>>76086763
He might but he blew it by showing he was personally slighted far too easily. It eroded any argument he could have made. Sad really.
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>>76086768
There's no narrative to push. There's just truth.
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>>76086797
>coward couldn't even write on the cards
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>>76086793
Isn't this site all about judging people by what they have to say and not who they are? Throwing out an argument because a faggot said it seems like it goes against the spirit of the site to me.
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>>76086815
His ideals are fake just like his assumed identity
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>>76082176
Tevesh Szat, one colour is enough and he synergizes with the tokens and sacrifice effects.
>>76086797
You'll never be a real woman.
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>>76086816
No, this site is not about judging people. It is about the merit of a post. Your post is divorced from you as a person for this exact reason.
Again, you do not understand the nature of this webzone.
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>>76086816
>we remove all personaity from a post as a matter of course
>"isn't this site all about judging people"
kek you are so pathetic.
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>>76086892
That's what I'm saying. If a post is divorced from who you are as a person why would it matter how slighted the person is to the content of their post? The truth is the truth regardless of who speaks it.
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>>76086933
It's a figure of speech dude, don't take it so seriously.
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>>76086973
What is a figure of speech? Do you know what a figure of speech is? It doesn't seem like it.
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>>76086860
>You'll never be a real woman.
I like that you assume I posted it as a positive example. Guess the trannies do live rent-free in your head.
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>>76086973
You are so tilted lol. You got emasculated by anonymous posting. Sort your life out faggot.
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>>76086988
Do you?
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>>76087014
Show us where the figure of speech was instead of trying to wriggle out of this one.
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>>76087010
Why would I care about anonymous posting? That sounds like projection.
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>>76087014
>no u
the absolute state of you right now. wew lad.
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>>76087032
Man if you need to be shown you're more ESL than I thought.
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>>76087085
Then please show me sirs.



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