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>Thread Question
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>Previous Thread:
>>67220757
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>>67225016
Why is he a chia pet?
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would angron and vulkan would be bros if angron never got nails?
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>>67225016
>What's next for 40k?

Terra being invaded by Tyranids after Cawl activates the Pharos device.
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>>67225052
pharos device was destroyed by dantioch
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>>67225016
https://youtu.be/t-QSmNReDyI

40k releasing more giant robots, more giant monsters, more giant humans, and the games becoming about these giant things being controlled by giant man-children
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>going to GW tomorrow
>1) look at shit and leave
>2) buy some box for KT
>3) BEHNBLEHD PURCHASE
>4)1 pot of paint and leave
what do?
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>>67225119
>more giant humans

50 foot tall Sisters of Battle when?
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>>67225154
i always do 1 because i know i can't find anyone to play with
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>>67225047
Maybe, but if his men were anything to go by the War Hounds were hyper-aggressive and violent before they were even united with Angron or given the nails, so it's safe to assume he wouldn't be much different besides having an off switch.
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>>67225169

Men can receive gene therapy to become space marines.

Women can receive gene therapy to become Titans
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>>67225206
maybe they would be zen berserkers that would do anything to protect civilians. i saw that angron was total bro before nails
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>>67225016
when will marinelets rise up against the lanklet Primaris interlopers
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>>67225206
>if his men were anything to go by the War Hounds were hyper-aggressive and violent
So basically Red Thirsting Blood Angels?
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>>67225243
Too beta to do anything but shitpost on 4chan anonymously
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>>67225016
>Thread Question
>What's next for 40k?
We discover Cawl is a giant retard hack and primaris are full of problems, making every chapter that wasn't made in the ultima founding distrust him and the project and halting primaris production to the bare minimum to make use of them but not to put the future of the chapters on their shoulders. This is then followed by a release of updated manlet infantry kits. Screencap this for 2022.
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If you've managed to buy wraithbone contrast from your FLGS youre a heretic. Mine hasn't received any wraithbone pots in a month.
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>>67225016
>whats next for 40k
I dunno, some kind of sisters shilling event maybe?
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>>67225067
>In the ensuing Battle of Sotha, Dantioch overloaded the Device to defeat the traitors and its engines fell silent for the first time. Unknown to all involved, this act served to alert the Tyranids to our Galaxy.
local traitor ruins everything
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>>67225292
dantioch was not traitor. he and polloux were the best gay couple in the galaxy
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>>67225169
Sister Klan Klang the knocker monster here to help you out with the purging senpai
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>>67225016
>What's next for 40k?
The Old Ones return, uniting their child races together into a "Grand Alliance"
>Big twist is the Aeldari break free from the Old Ones with the help of Cegorach, Ynnead, AND SLAANESH.

This event is fluff butchery of the highest order and is done to justify why friendless armies are now soup
>Orks, Necrons, Tau

Leaves us IMPERIUM, CHAOS, AELDARI, TYRANID, & OLD ONES
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>>67225314
>dantioch was not traitor
umm sweatie as an iron warrior you are loyal to perturabo first and foremost
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>>67225016
>What's next for 40k?
Heresy 2.0 Electric Boogaloo
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>>67225119
This feels like a personal attack, granted I started in 7th when this shit was starting, but I can't be the only one who likes painting unique things rather than 100 Space Marines
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>>67225222
that's kinda hot
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>>67225154

I'm compulsive 1 pot buyer
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>>67225343
>you are loyal to perturabo first and foremost
>loyality to a guy who actively wants you to die

Stay bitter.
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>>67225343
some of them said fuck you to pert. i wanted for polloux and dantioch to start gay family
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>>67225274

I walked into WHW the other day and picked up a pot of wraithbone, black templar, akhelian & guiliman flesh. Easy peasy.
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>>67225351
>this feels like a personal attack
This isn't a hugbox. Reddit is that way.
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>>67220873
>>67220932
>>67221534
>>67223390
>Your Chaos Marines are too slim.
I was going for a creepy tall and slim visual for them. Granted that did mean that the models wouldn't be wearing full power armour, or atleast not with the traditional bulk to the torso. With that in mind I don't think that they are too slim since they are about the size I'd envision for a Space Marine who's not wearing power armour.
However seeing the comments they've gotten I'll consider whether or not I want to go with a more traditionally bulky approach to the rest of them.
Would you guys say that the second guy from the left makes for a better version of a CSM apothecary?
On the right is one of my normal CSMs.
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was alpharius a manlet?
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>>67225016
>What's next
Hopefully the great unfucking of 8th Ed and the reintroduction of 7th Ed style rules that bring back more depth to armies so that every fucking army is not super homogonized and boring as fuck to play with no depth of game play at all.
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>>67225366
>>loyality to a guy who actively wants you to die
as opposed to a guy who actively wants you to die
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>>67225393
Yes he was so short he could disguise himself as a marinelet.

>tho tbf, Alpha Legionnaires are the original Chadmarines, as they were bigger than other legion's marines.
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>>67225277
Which will turn into a primaris shilling event before it ends.
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>>67225202
Mood. Real sadboi hours in the hood.
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>>67225402
>and the reintroduction of 7th Ed style rules
That'll never happen.
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>>67225413
Iirc, IW had the second highest casualties, with only World Eaters losing more.
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>>67225393
Yes, it's actually canon that he was marine-sized.
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can chad marines be removed from cannon by making them gradually degrade and become unstabile?
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>>67225393
damn that's a really mean thing to call yourself alpharius
maybe you aught to see a therapist about that or something
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>>67225436
All I see are a bunch of victories
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>>67225437
Not really. He was the shortest primarch, but larger than regular marines. Alpha legionnares were tall as fuck to compensate.
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>>67225441
No. Move on anon, accept the change. It will never go back
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>>67225441
Not removed, but limited as they should have been in the first place. That would make them still a great asset worth making but not a complete replacement since they can't sustain whole chapters by themselves.
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>>67225016
Context of this picture?
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>>67225423
I know it won't, it's why HH more and more is attractive to me, my army can actually be "my dudes" and I can build an army around what I like and 9/10 times they are going to be able to hold their own
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>>67225476
why is there no primaris trminator daddies?
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>>67224547
p-pls
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>>67225489
Harbingers of Despair
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>>67225479
what context do you need?
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>>67225102
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>>67225489
do Emperror's children and replace their autocannons with dildos
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>>67225489
Fuck rules focus. Go for rule of cool. Get the 2 new Word Bearers themed paints and go for Word Bearers.

Drill them barrels. Apply them transfers.
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>>67225206
I always thought it was more mercy killing than anything. Imagine the PTSD someone gets after facing Astartes.
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>>67225484
because releases must be staggered for interest and profit
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>>67225542
they made chad marines tactical operatives that look retarded and bolter miniguns
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which primarch should have been female?
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>>67225525
>Get the 2 new Word Bearers themed paints
wat, you mean contrast?
I already have a bunch of normal red and orange paints tho
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>>67225580
All of them
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>>67225538
You mean those times they were close to fulfilling our sacred duty to the Emperor
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>when I start placing /myguys/ on the table with a converted proxy who uses marneus rules.
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>>67225590
but what if emps listened to malcador and made half of the primarchs female. which would you choose?
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>>67225583
No, normal. Theres a new base paint and layer paint designed for Word Bearers.
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>>67225580
Either Guilliman or the Lion, at least then you could tell the difference between the two besides the autism El'Johnson had
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Is jobbing intrinsic to his character? I mean even back during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy he jobbed dudes in almost every single one of his appearances.
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>>67225609
holy shiet really, do you know the names?
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>>67225609
But isn't khorne red already the exact color?
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>>67225416
>alpha legion learn how to primaris in secret
>start pumping their legion with primaris organs
>they remove system32 from cawl and replace with primarisproject.odt
>all primaris are secret alpha legion dormant agent
>they yeet on imperium while yeeting on chaos
>Alpharius declared emperor of pranksters
guys???
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>>67225580
Kurze for sure.
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>>67225617
i would like to see lion's toy trains
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>>67225580
2 and 11 there you go.
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>>67225607
All the loyalist ones and one traitor
>tfw could never do it because pro and anti SJWs would both turn it into something political
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>>67225607
It would have literally been the half which fell to chaos and you know it.
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>>67225580
Angron. Constantly on her period.
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>>67225625
Gal Vorbak red,and Word Bearers Red.

>>67225626
Gal Vorbak is a burgundy type. Word Bearers has a hint of brown.
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cool?
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>>67225592
Nigga they opposed Imperial rule. They did the opposite of duty to the emperor.
Death was too merciful for them.
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>>67225628
We know this already. Even the tzeenchs plans are mere pasta pictures to the alpha legion.
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>>67225387
I posted in the other thread and I wanted to say I like it, especially for an apothecary, but I wouldn't do it for a whole army.

Honestly the thing that does bother me is that the shoulderpads. I think you should broaden the shoulders with some greenstuff because they look a bit close together, and honestly, he should be the same width as other marines if he's wearing pauldrons anyway,

Apart from that though, I'm a big fan, talons are good
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>>67225667
Hey whats up dude hows the penis?
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>>67225617
>Arthurian lady knight giantess
I'm saving that one for my smutwriting.
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>>67225667
Cute.
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Have you ever woken up from really great dream, one where you you could just stay in for hours. Have you gone so far as to think of what it would be like for that dream to be real? Maybe thinking or even uttering kind of desperate request to let you live out your dream in realspace?

Congratulations, you are a chaos worshipper now.
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>>67225656
>Gal Vorbak red,and Word Bearers Red.
oh shiet that's awesome, thanks fren
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>>67225667
Does she have actual wings or what? Never understood if those were real or just an elaborate add-on to her jump pack.
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Where do I start with 40k? Also just recently got into the fantasy TTRPG but not the wargame. Not sure how to choose a faction to buy and start painting since there are so many cool looking ones. Any good guides for newfags?
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>>67225687
guess I am a heretic now.
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>>67225667

Literally just Celestine with an Eldar spear.
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>>67225667
Is it only the spear I'm meant to notice?
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>>67225687
No but I do disassociate pretty hard
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>>67225016
Apocalypse is now using 12 sided dice. I wonder if that change will eventually end up in the standard rules as well.
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>friend plays castellan/guard/custodes
>gets mad when I bring 3 doom scythes because it’s “cheese”
Fuck imperialfags
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i was thinking about alternative heresy where loyalist are composed of: IV, V, VII, X, XII, XV, XVIII, XIX and XX legions.
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>>67225750
I think Perturabo going traitor is dumb and he should have been a neutral traitor, concerned with trying to keep the Imperium together and then his legion gets murdered from both sides
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I'm trying to start a new army and nothing has jumped at me in the past couple of days. I have IF, DG and TS but I'm looking for something more dark if that makes sense. Sorta like this pic of big E, some force whose visual is that it merged with something and experiences nothing but pain, like DG but maybe less smiley. Does something like that exist? And I fucked in the head?
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Is a Warhammer story where a feral worlder is recruited as a marine an isekai?
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>>67225705
Just play what you think is cool
Rules are for losers, cool models are eternal.
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Plastic CSM dreadclaw when
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>>67225773
i was thinking that pert and dorn could be bros if they would fight 1v1
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>>67225708
i want to make the spear to like the holy lance.
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>>67225775
Play Dark Eldar.
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>>67225775
Convert a mechanicus force. If you can't convert don't bother
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>>67225775
Haemonculus covens DE
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>>67225778
no, not a parallel universe
don't try to apply anime tropes to 40k, we don't need that
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>>67225484
Because terminators are too good to be desecrated by primaris.
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>>67225102
So one jumppack = 1 Jetbke?
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>>67225816
based
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>Fires of Cyraxis is the only reason i'm still into 40k
DARK MECH WHEN?
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>>67225705
Don't expect to not pay much on paints, brushes, glues, tools etc when starting out. Once you've gotten past that initial investment then you can start spending your shekels on models.
Faction-wise just pick what you think is coolest. Also make your to look up lots of painting guides, especially look for painting techniques that will make life easier for you.
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>>67225818
Plus the bike itself, but yeah
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>>67225634
>>67225655
I'm not sure witch would be the more dangerous crazy to stick my dick into.
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Aosg is making OC.
What are you guys doing?
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>>67225687

I mostly dream about fighting people at the moment so probably best not
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>>67225856
>Angroana has the Butcher's Teeth in her vagina
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>>67225862
I made this one a while back.
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>>67225748

This is pretty typical, imperium players seem to completely disassociate their own waacfaggotness because its become the norm that when challenged by something that cant help but whine. It's part and parcel of their cheese taking next to know brainpower to operate.
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>>67225862
Jerking off with motor oil
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/11/julias-belisarius-cawl-cosplaygw-homepage-post-2/
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>>67225206
I always though this was so stupid. Would have been way more interesting is the war hounds were chilled out surfer bros before they got the nails.
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>>67225833

Do we tell him?
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>>67225862
Working for a living
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>>67225489
Run them as Bringers of Dispair from Vigilus Ablaze. Which means they have to be Black Legion.
A terminator focused specialist detatchment which manipulates morale.

Other than that, just run them as whatever you want, give them combi-plasmas and mark of slaanesh to shoot plasma twice and give them a 5+ FnP from a slaaneshi sorc.

Or do both, but the specialist detatchment is more focused on melee, where a 5+ FnP is still good.

Anyways, you should just find a paint scheme you like and go for that, you can run a pink Black Legion if you want, they dont have to be black in order for you to use their rules, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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>>67225672
>>67225475
>I think the thin thing can work, especially for something like an apothecary.
>I wouldn't extend it to like an army though, the creepiness would be lost that way.
My plan was to only make two units of 5x CSM and a Chaos Lord fluffed as a cult/academy of chaos apothecaries/Flesh Crafters. The rest of the army will be the raiding force of my own little Hell-Forge.
>Also where can I find the rules for CSM apothecaries?
Sadly there are non. I'll use them as ordinary Chaos Space Marines.
>>67225493
I like it, it's suitably gaudy for my flamboyant lord.
>>67225672
>I think you should broaden the shoulders with some greenstuff because they look a bit close together
Good idea!
>and honestly, he should be the same width as other marines if he's wearing pauldrons anyway
I didn't really think about that, and I guess you're right. The pauldrons would be attached to the armour rather being their own kinda thing.
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>>67225803
>>67225813

Holy Shit I forgot about these guys they'd work perfectly. Only problem is how they don't have too many units for Haemonculus


>>67225808
What exactly would I go for? Do you you have picture or kits I'd use to kitbash? Cuz I can't see what I'd exactly do
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>>67225324
Get some taste mate
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>>67225623
Is jobbing killing? If so then yes.
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>>67225879
Then you're fucking retarded and/or contribute to cancerous posts because Iron Warriors models have spikes and trim
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>>67225739
I hope so. Terminators feel tough again.
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>>67225862
Made this about a month ago.

Other than that, I'm drinking to drown my sorrow.
Haven't painted in a really, really long time as it doesn't bring me joy like it used to.
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>>67225667
Why do those wings look just like the ones on Dark Eldar Scourges?
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>>67225748
>necrons
>cheese
I'd apply Hanlons Razor to this.
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>>67225879
>>67225929
Where did this meme even come from? I only ever see people talk about not having mutations. Nothing about trim or spikes.
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>>67225833
Never because if FoC ever gets released I can't use "after fires of cyraxis" as my response to "When?"
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>>67225705
I do have paints and the proper tools from painting non WH miniatures. Still fairly amateur to painting but I know my way around that hobby. I just get confused with buying the proper models, building an army list and so on. Like I know some starter sets aren't great longevity wise and what not.
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>>67225879
>hating spikes
>has spikes
Stop
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>>67225921
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>>67225929
I call my art "Forbidden Image of Summon Iron Warriors player"
See, it works
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>>67225833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHomtMvxqWs
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>>67225962
IWfags bitching about every chaos release because they have mutations, and then bitching but other chaos releases because "scratchy trim", leaving the only kits that they don't bitch about as ancient metal models, their one crappy upgrade sprue, and mkiii armor
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>>67225977
From one anon a long time ago who kept getting angry about new chaos kits being too chaos-y and wishing they were more like MKIII.
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>>67225962
Man look at all the spikes the only official IW model has
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>>67225982
>when you try to make shit up about people they get angry and reply
wow what a fucking find fuckhead
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>>67225970
Oops this is for >>67225834
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>>67225856
Depends on how you gain access to dat primepussy. Konrad (Katherine?) would have more control over herself, but by damn she'll watch you with even more attention than the usual criminals since she'd demand nothing but an utterly exemplary law abiding by her definition citizen as her consort.
Angron (Furia?) would be much more understanding with you but sex would legit be painful for her because of how the butcher's nails work. But she'd be much more bearable in normal life. Angron's Primarch power seems to be a superhuman sense of empathy so she might still be down to fuck if she feels your relationship would be damaged without it. Or at least allow you sidehoes.
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>>67226014
I count 6.
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>>67226014
>has a claw coming out of his dick
Iron within iron without, brother
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>>67226017
Bruh, if you feel compelled to reply to bait, thats your problem.
Its not even subtle.
You just keep biting.
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>>67226011
>IWfags bitching about every chaos release because they have mutations
Literally only dark vengeance
>and then bitching but other chaos releases because "scratchy trim"
That's specifically in regards to raptors, and it was less IWfags and more... everyone. Because the old raptors were better.
>leaving the only kits that they don't bitch about as ancient metal models, their one crappy upgrade sprue, and mkiii armor
1. And the new CSM, fucking idiot.
2. The upgrade sprue is actually really good if you get it in metal
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>>67226011
>IWfags bitching about every chaos release
You mean non-chaos players bitching about IWfags bitching, that was what all the vigilus releases had.
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>>67226057
Look again anon.
Take perspective into consideration.
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>>67226043
I still really love the fact that Angrons super power is empathy
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>>67226061
>>67226069
We had a thread THIS WEEK bitching about the new and old obliterators. Fuck off and accept the autists in your playerbase like everyone elsr
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>>67225623
He may or may not be in for getting his ass handed to him by Sigismund on Terra. Look forward to it.
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>>67225978
Holy shit that is nice, I don't know if I could pull it off though. Part of me wants to do it to learn and actually do it, but idk man
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>>67225775
>>67225921
I second a converted Mechanicus force, or possibly even your own semi-heretical Rogue Trader personal army.
>Do you you have picture or kits I'd use to kitbash?
I personally would check out some of the good ol' art while browsing games workshop's website for suitable models whenever you get inspired.
Start with a character and then try to envision how the troops under his command would be geared, dressed and shaped.
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>>67226011
>and then bitching but other chaos releases because "scratchy trim"
Please do not imply that plastic raptors are a good kit.
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>>67226094
Hellbrutes and all of the new CSM also have asymmetrical trim
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And 95% of you own nothing, but will complain about it anyways.
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>>67226085
Because all Obliterator models are shit don't sit there and pretend any possible version of them was good. Even crimson slaughter fags don't defend them.
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>>67226085
>the new and old obliterators.
You mean those universally hated models?
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>>67226082
One of the beat chars in the setting for me.
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Spooky skeleton on throne so spooky
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>>67226103
Not at raptor levels.
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>>67226113
New oblits are good though. Just sucks they don’t have a proper kit.
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>>67226087
Die or become him and die are terrible outcomes.
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>>67226103
>asymmetrical trim
Uh, nobody mentioned trim being asymmetrical. The problem with raptors is that their trim looks like a child with parkinsons sculpted it.
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>>67226121
What book did Angron drop a sick beat in?
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>>67226085
Are you gonna pretend anyone who plays any factions likes the old or new obliterators?
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>>67226114
I like the new ones.
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>New oblits are good though.
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>>67226128
Compare.
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>>67226113
>>67226114
>Hey we don't complain aboit chaos models!
>Ok we do, but we've been complaining about them for a long time
>I like mk iii
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>>67226087
I don't think they met. Lucius denies it happened.
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>>67226161
So nice.
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>>67226162
>I like mk iii
Who you quoting?
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>>67226128
This kit is good for the chainswords and nothing else. I don't know why the fuck I bought it.
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>>67226011
>crappy upgrade sprue
Oh that thing is no longer available I just check while getting the warpsmith picture
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>>67226148
Slave of Nuceria
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>>67226128
>raptors don't have arrows
It all makes sense now.
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>>67226128
Only problem I have with them is the cleets
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>>67226092
>Start with a character and then try to envision how the troops under his command would be geared, dressed and shaped.

That's a good idea, as I said here >>67226089 I'm not very good at converting, but if I start small, it might be less daunting.
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>>67226179
You get chaos jump packs for HQs as well.
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>>67225489
>Not going iron warrios and shooting those imperials out of cover.

Play the neckbeard subfaction anon
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>>67226162
>>Hey we don't complain aboit chaos models!
This was never stated. Ever.
This started with "IW players do not hate spikes and trim".
And fucking EVERYONE hates obliterators.
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Ok so what successor chapters do we have specific rules for?

>Black Templars
>Crimson Fists
>Flesh Tearers
>Blood Ravens (Soon)

What else am I missing?
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>>67226128
Why did they scrap the old helmet design and jump packs? Those things looked rad.
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>>67226176
Every IWfag ever, imagined or otherwise
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>>67225926
jobbing basically means killing with such ease that the victim may as well have been a mannequin and his job is to kill mannequins.

>>67225623
He also go jobbed by almost every other named EC as well as a few Luna Wolves
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>>67226205
1. They look like absolute garbage. You should use the metal raptor jump packs instead.
2. They only fit onto raptor torsos for some fucking retarded reason, so you have to modify them to fit on regular models, which is pointless and annoying.
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>>67226218
Ok so where was it in the thread I must have missed it anon.
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What would it take for GW to make my OCDONUTSTEEL chapter canon?
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>>67226212
Do we count Flesh Tearers since its just blood angels + 1 character?
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>>67226201
But with those spiky cleets, anything is possible!
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>>67226162
>>I like mk iii
I never understood why this is considered something to mock.
Do you complain when raven guard or alpha legion players use mk vi?
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>>67226242
ONE
BILLION
MUNNY
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>>67226242
Write them in a novel and have them publish it.
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>>67226237
Where you around for the fuck spamming the "mk iii kitbashes" image prior to shadowspear? Or are you a newfag?
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>>67226242
Submit a story to BL and with enough Marine-wank it may get accepted.
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>>67226209
I already have IW KT
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>>67226212
Emperor's Spears
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>>67226242
Make them ultramarines successor.
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>>67226265
Did you just admit that you base your opinion on an entire group of players on one shitposter
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>>67226265
Well that was more than half a year ago anon, not really sure why you would bring it up unprompted. I mean you aren't just letting the iron warriors live in your head rent free for half a year right?
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>>67225916
Yeah, I wasn't sure if they were supposed to be marines or not but the shoulders thing just looked a bit off. I was going to say if they aren't and are humans/cultists then you might consider doing just 1. But yeah, bit of greenstuff will help balance them out there

I do like it though, and props on making a primaris model into an actually good looking CSM

What's the rest of the list going to be then? Lots of chaos spawn? I've always liked the idea of a dark mechanicum army since reading mechanicum and reading about all the warp corrupted servitors and robots
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>>67226085
Because they're fucking shit
I wanted something like this
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>>67225489

How many termies are we talking? You can do some strong work as Alpha Legion:

10 combiplasma, Dark Apostle (Warp-Sight Plea), Dark Apostle (Benediction of Darkness), Dark Disciples <-- footslog

10 combiplasma, Sorcerer with Prescience and Miasma, Sorcerer with Warptime and Weaver of Fates <-- Deep Strike

Both squads can take a Lord as insurance. What you get is incredibly safe plasma (+1 to hit) on -2 to be hit termies. You can take 1 unit to -3 to be hit and +2 to hit, but it has to be the footslogging one, and the benefit is safe plasma while also shooting your bolter, which may not be worth the slowdown.

Then you can take a third squad with just a Lord - not as safe, but still pretty useful.
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>>67226256
Because aside from beaky fags no other armor type gets jerked off as much. Also when plastic mkiii came out (and now to a lesser degree) hordes of people bought mkiii, painted it silver, added hazard stripes, and no other chaos elements and insisted that those where good chaos models
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>>67226265
>prior to shadowspear
So not in this thread then?
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>>67226222
>almost every other named EC
IIRC only Tarvitz and Cyrius. And Tarvitz had artillery support on top of having a passive -30 IQ debuff aura affect all other combatants on the same battlefield as himself. Seriously, everyone seems to get dumber whenever he's around.
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>>67226312
That's not a justification for why you give people shit for using actually converted MkIIIs
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>>67226320
You forgot Eidolan
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>>67226293
We are talking about iron warriors, you want evidence that they like mkiii for some fucking reason, where's the problem?
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>>67226161
What is it with heresy and topknots?
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>>67226340
I want an explination why you brought up mkiii with no real prompt. It had no relation to the posts you were replying too so it seems an odd thing to bring up. That is unless you were a little obsessed.
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>>67226276
So you won't add to them to get a bigger army?
i'm confused now. Are you going for a ragtag kind of amry? or are you just collecting/ not looking at a greater whole.
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>>67226311
posted originally in KT thread fren so about 3
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So if Hoeth was never a thing in 40k, does that mean that Eldar were never big on knowledge, science, and curiosity?
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>>67226339
Did they ever duel? I don't remember it.
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>>67226128
>>67226161
>a poster looked at these images and thought "yes these are the same"
>>67226103 apologize right now
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>>67226354
Well my.new friend, mk iii and iron warriors are typically associated because canonically that legion had a disproportionately large number of mk iii suits.
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>>67226311
>10 combi-plasma
Only 1 combi-plasma in the box
But luckily for you, they included not 1, but 2 (thats TWO) combi-flamers!
HahahahahahahahaAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHH
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>>67226376
He means "why did you bring it up in a list of negative things"
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>>67226355
KT mostly, I might expand into full army when I stop getting tempted by IG
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>>67226376
Ok but why did you bring it up, in fact the two posts you replied to didn't mention the IW at all we were talking about obliterator sculpts.
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>>67226370
No, asymetrical trim is asymetrical trim no matter how many brainlets try to call it "scratchy". I like the new raptors, and I like the DV chosen too. Suck my fucking dick
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>>67226393
Read the reply chain, obliterators were brought up in context of IW.
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>>67226397
So you are saying those two units have the same kinda trim because you might be retarded anon.
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What does it take to get kicked out of a GW store?
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>>67226362
Eldar, even Craftworlders, are way more similar to Druichi from fantasy, and Druchii hated Hoeth. Like Asur considered Kaine to be a necessary evil at best, and fucking Ares on crack at worse, while the Eldar and Druchii give him a pedestal above other gods in their pantheons. To bad too, since Hoeth was one of the cooler gods in Fantasy. But then, his whole agenda of progress and discovery would have been at odds with the setting.
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>>67226417
I'm saying they both have asymetrical trim and that I like them both.
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>>67226409
Ok but how did bringing it up have to do with discussing the obliterator sculpts?
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>>67226397
Anon, I need to test you for eye problems and/or mental retardation
Tell me if these 2 lines are identical or not
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>another thread ruined by IWfags falling for the simplest of baits
Christ.
As a fellow chaos player, this is embarrassing guys.
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>>67226367
Jobbed in the sense that Eidolan outclasses Lucius on the battlefield due to his REEEEEEEEEEE powers
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>>67226424
say nigger
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>>67226437
Literally no one else is talking about "asymmetrical trim" you braindead imbecile
People don't hate raptors for having "asymmetrical trim", they hate them for having trim that looks like random scribbles.
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>>67226424
Take a shit on one of the tables.
Then call it Rowboat Grilledcheese man.
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>>67226440
One on the left is longer

>>67226424
Cumming on the table might do it.
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>>67226215
>they don't make 'em like that anymore
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>>67226440
The displacement is equal, I don't see the issue here.
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>>67226443
Well, when someone says "[x] people think or do this" and no one pipes up to argue against it, then people are going to believe it since there's no one denying it.
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>>67226440
Dude I don't know if you're fucking retarded or something but the new CSM do not have straight edge trim. Not only are the lines irregular and broken up by random, non uniform spikes, but look at the fucking edges. They aren't smooth
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>>67226424
If you're in the UK, take some scouts with pistols and knives and forget your knife license at home.
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>>67226444
That's really not what that word means.
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>>67226215
Because GW are lazy fucks who wanted to make Warp Talons and Raptors be the same kit. It's like if the CSM kit was also used to make Possessed.
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>>67226439
>iwfags don't like chaos models
>yeah we do
>you complained about chaos models this week
>oh those don't count
This is has been a replay
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>>67225324
Except T'au and Necrons aren't Old Ones creations you lorelet.
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It's a shame considering how great the havoc update was.
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>>67226486
1. That's a possessed.
2. Please look at this picture.
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>>67226307
>bit of greenstuff will help balance them out there
I think I'll follow your advice about that.
>>67226307
>I do like it though, and props on making a primaris model into an actually good looking CSM
Thanks mate!
>What's the rest of the list going to be then?
Ten combi-plasma Terminators accompanied by a Terminator Lord and Terminator Sorcerer, one unit of Chaincannon Havocs, a unit of 10 more or less "normal" chaos space marines with two chaincannons, three Helbrutes, three Obliterators and a Dark Apostle. All will be marked Slaanesh.
>Lots of chaos spawn?
My original list contained about six Spawns. While I'm unlikely to include as many I'm definitely tempted to include some in lieu of the havocs since I outright love the conversion aspects of Spawns. I am however struggling with coming up with a suitably feral base-model to body-horror up aswell as semi-mechanize. If you or anyone else have a suggestion I'd love to hear it.
>I've always liked the idea of a dark mechanicum army since reading mechanicum and reading about all the warp corrupted servitors and robots.
That was actually the army I first meant to make but then I saw the new Chaos releases and fell in love with the Obliterators and Terminators. As such the Dark Mechanicus stuff was primarily left to the fluff.
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>>67226455
I'm saying asymetrical because I'm not five and don't have to describe the thing as "scratchy". Irregular also works
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>>67226493
I mean you're right but, take this hypothetical.

You're a skateboarder and you just learned how to do a kick flip, you go to show off and then Tony Hawk (20years younger) comes and drops a 1080 on your ass. It would be fair to say you got jobbed in that situation.
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>>67226515
>If you dislike even one model in your army then you must hate them all
Supreme retardation
I guess that no marine players actually like space marines, because nobody likes centurions.
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>>67225929
>>67225962
>>67226014
>>67226069
It's retards intentionally misunderstanding the concerns people raise.
Look at both of these.
Take a good, long, dedicated 5 second glance at these figures. And tell me that they're the same spikes and trim and mutation.
There's Trim, and then theres Trim. It's the STYLE of it that's fucking wrong.
There are big chonking metal forged spikes, and then there's "oh hey my knee grew a boney horn" spikes.
Why the FUCK are you cunttarded fukkaked zoophiles always deliberately mind-reading this shit?
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>>67225489
Alpha Legion
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>>67226551
>I'm saying asymetrical because I'm not five and don't have to describe the thing as "scratchy".
Do you know what asymmetrical means? It means "different on both sides". Almost every CSM model has asymmetrical trim. I am not talking about asymmetry.
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>>67226539
Irregular lines with two random spikes vs irregular lines with three random spikes. In the new csm kit there's also, besides jagged trim, spikes that are replaced with teeth

Look at the havocs too >>67226523
They also do not have smooth edges to their trim.
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>>67225705
My opinion, start with lore. Read the lore sections of the rulebook and codices. Look at the hobby sections. consider the faction you like the lore and miniatures the most. You'll be spending the most of your time working on them, so make sure you like the faction for its full and look, not for its tabletop rules.
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Did FW ever release that Talons book they showed?
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>>67226578
You fucking need glasses, or maybe a brain.
>>67226571
The problem is that crimson shitters will unironically call the top model "wannabe loyalist".
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>>67226556
>nobody likes centurions
I was actually half-heartedly considering converting them into Obliterators.
With a fair amount of greenstuff and shit you could turn them into something akin to >>67226310 's pic.
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>>67226578
>They also do not have smooth edges to their trim.
You might be blind anon, or intentionally ignoring what the issue is.
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Why don't iron warrior players just convert their dudes out of imperial marines or 30k stuff? Fuck. If you want to main a niche subfaction in 40k and don't have a plan with how to convert your units just play something else
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>>67226578
>trying to argue that battle damage is the same thing as warp mutations
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>>67226556
>one model
New obliterators
Old obliterators
Raptors
All dark vengeance models
Lord of Executions
The spider daemon engine
All dinobot daemon engines
For IWfags specifically you can add to the list anything to do with cults or possessed
That's all off the top of my head. It'd be easier to list models they do like. New havocs, new basic csm, mk iii plastic, and the old basic csm
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>>67226578
It's not smooth, no, but it's entirely 100% unlike the crimson slut trim.
Why are you arguing this when you don't even play chaos?
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>>67226621
Because IWs expect all chaos kits to cater to them, not ACTUAL chaos players.
They don't want chaos space marines, they want loyalist chaos marines.
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>>67226621
Because the current CSM models are fine. It's just raptors and helbrutes that fucking suck.
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>IW lorelet autism claims yet another thread
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>>67226516
>Except T'au and Necrons aren't Old Ones creations you lorelet.
Learn the lore
Necrons WERE bffs with Aeldari and Old Ones. They fought proto-daemons and weren't afraid of nothing.

Tau are surrounded by an air of mystery and have never been confirmed of their origin
>Necrons under the Silent King welcome their old allies, the old ones with open arms
>Tau are revealed to be created by the Old Ones

Fucking lorelets not keeping up with the lore and living in the past
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>>67226619
Dude the havocs even have the fucking cleets, fuck off
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>>67226621
We already ARE converting shit, you dumb cunt...
This whole fucking bullshit goes back years, starting with people complaining that IW players are "not chaosy" and ripping on us for not buying the newer chaos models.
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>>67226655
>posts a bunch of headcanons
>calls me a lorelet
Lol okay anon
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>>67226591
ish?
HH8: Malevolence is Blood Angels + White Scars + Demons + Talons rules (postponing darkmech)

but no talons 40k book release

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/27/warhammer-fest-live-blog/
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>>67226168
Where are the heads from?
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What do people do with all of their extra lightning claws from their raptor boxes?
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>>67226659
The only issue with the cleets on raptors is that the old mechanical talons were better. They work on Havocs and even have rules.
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>>67226638
IW don't play chaos either. Their most requested model is a guard tank
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>>67226637
>New obliterators
universally hated
>Old obliterators
universally hated (I like them though because of DoW nostalgia)
>Raptors
very controversial models
>All dark vengeance models
Those are Crimson Slaughter. This is like suggesting that a Space Wolves player use Dark Angels models.
>Lord of Executions
What? I haven't seen any specifically IW-related complaints about him. It seems more that it's just a hated model in general.
>The spider daemon engine
Seems to have been well-received.
>All dinobot daemon engines
It's not just IW players who hate those.
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>>67226698
>not running your raptors with twin lightning claws
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>>67226552
Nah.
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What base size do Tempestor Primes go on?
Working on my GSC/Skitarii Scion kitbashes and obviously they need a couple of leaders, was going to use GSC torsos, Wrack bottom halves, Skit arms and backpacks and some form of dramatic hooded head from when I next make an Anvil Industries order.

Also, how do you gear them? Each is flying with two squads of Scions, so I was planning on command rod/power weapon for each and leaving the shooty to their admirably overgunned subordinates.
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>>67226645
>They don't want chaos space marines, they want loyalist chaos marines.
I have a sneaking suspicion that you think the average CSM looks like a Crimson Slaughter Chosen and not an actual CSM kit marine.
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>>67226668
>>67226646
Who takes Raptors as IW and as far as dreads convert loyalist or use FW
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>>67226571
>It's retards intentionally misunderstanding the concerns people raise.
This. Every time I have an argument here it's 90% me having to restate my point because the other person tries to argue something completely unrelated.
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>>67226710
Raptors CAN'T take twin lightning claws outside of the champion of the squad.
They're that shit.
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>>67226709
You have a funny definition of universally hated because even in this thread people have said they liked them
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>>67226728
And I have a sneaking suspicion you play IWs.
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>>67226742
>Who takes Raptors as IW
Yeah who the fuck would want to deepstrike melta/plasma? Me.
>and as far as dreads convert loyalist or use FW
I don't have the modeling skill to cover a dreadnought in trim and arrows, and they don't sell ferrum infernus dreadnoughts anymore.
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>>67226669
T'au *might* be an Old One creation. Though they're probably an Eldar creation.

Necrons fucking hate the Old Ones tho so idk what that other anon is smoking
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>>67226766
No shit, you fucking idiot.
Here's an Iron Warrior. Are you going to argue to me that this isn't a Chaos Space Marine?
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>>67226698
>>67226710
>>67226752

You make a unit of Warp Talons
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>>67226794
>arrows
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>>67226548
Sounds good, I love playing against armies with some backstory other than "It's meta right now"

>10 combi plasmas

That sounds expensive to model but that sounds like a really fun unit. I kind of want to play CSM as opposed to SM, I love termies and didn't know you could give all of them combi weapons. I'm assuming it's an expensive way of getting it but 20 deep striking plasma shots sounds pretty fun

Also, points for not playing death guard, It's been nothing but death guard at the FLGS.

>New chaos releases

I'm pretty impressed too, honestly. I'm not a fan of abaddon but the havoks look great.

Also, are the new rules in the Vigilus ablaze book? I can't find rules for a chaincannon in the CSM codex
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>>67226761
You don't count extreme outliers. Otherwise the word "universally" would never be usable in any conversation ever.
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>>67226800
>lose -1 leadership and choice to take an icon in exchange for a useless ability that requires you to roll a 9+
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>>67226812
Funny thing that people who don't match your narrative with you conveniently become extreme outliers
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>>67226825
it is the reason why the box carries that many lightning claws
it's not my fault that they're separate unit datasheets
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>>67226804
Don't remind me of that "chaos dreadnoughts are actually loyalist" autist
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What's the most optimal point limit for apocalypse? Not too long to play, and not too big to play.
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>>67226838
Are you seriously trying to argue that obliterators are a well-liked model?
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>>67226800
Warp Talons are overpriced as fuck and only have 1 (that is ONE) base attack.
So for 120 points you get 5 wounds worth of models throwing out 11 attacks.
11 attacks
For 120 points.
And they can't take an icon for literally zero reason so I hope you didn't want charge re-rolls.
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>>67226809
Yeah new rules popped up there. I think the new copies of the CSM dex have the updated rules for Havoks/Oblits/etc but idk for sure.
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>>67226865
>And they can't take an icon for literally zero reason
GW thinks that people actually model icons as being held and not as backpack mounts
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>>67226862
I like the new Oblits overall, but the armor diapers look stupid.
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>>67226800
I genuinely forgot that Warp Talons and raptors were two separate things
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Is there any point in playing TS? They seems to have nothing to play with when compared to DG. What is actually good about them when all they have is rubrics and termies
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>>67226881
>I like the new Oblits overall,
What's it like having the worst taste imaginable?
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>>67226865
I mean they do get a 5++
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>>67226862
No don't put words in my mouth fucking fag. They aren't as hated as you would like me to believe, just like centurions. You want to prop up your specific vision of chaos as legitimate by painting every model that you don't like as universally hated.
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>>67226892
Rubric Marines are more likely to survive one turn of FRFSRF
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>>67226892
Rubrics
Termies
Birds
Usual list of SM vehicles
Mutalith Vortex Beast
Magnus

You sacrifice variety for quality (not all of what I listed is quality)
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>>67226897
Tastes fine to me.
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>>67226892
Winning tournies and making GK cry
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>>67226865
Ok. I was just saying that that's why the kit has all that lightning claws

why don't you sent GW an email explaining why the unit sucks? cause I really don't care
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>>67226904
Means nothing when you can just pound their T4 3+ ass with 0AP shots until they fail a few rolls.
You know, the statline that makes marines total shit this edition?
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>>67226892
You don't like taking a 20 minute psychic phase?
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>>67226707
We used to have it in the codex. They stole it from us. We want to complain about this.
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>>67226910
They clearly are, since whenever somebody posts a picture of one, at least 1 or 2 people talk about how shitty the models are. And how often do you see someone post a painted obliterator here, especially relative to how many CSM, Masters of Possession, Greater Possessed, and Venomcrawlers from the same box are posted?
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>>67226878
Which is strange since the new CSM kit has backpack icons.
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>>67226940
>unable to make an argument beyond appealing to imaginary group opinion, anon resorts to basic shitposting
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>>67226804
ITS FORGED YOU COMMIE BASTARD
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>>67226973
This. It's entirely reasonable to be upset about losing a fluffy option that makes the subfaction unique.
>>67226989
It was because I accidentally had the automatic countdown on, sperg.
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>>67226980
The only models I've seen posted are the basic csm and the one dude who converted his havocs into TS
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>>67226965
Was fun in 7th, but how can using a few spells take a lot of time when you can only attempt each one once a turn
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>another thread where every argument seems to be people intentionally misinterpreting each others' arguments and putting words in their mouths
why do you retards do this
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>>67227022
They don't actually realize they're doing it.
They're just retarded.
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>>67227009
I see masters of possession posted all of the time
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>>67226682
looks like DEldar Scourge masks. The hair seems different tho
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>>67227010
>how can using a few spells take a lot of time
>few spells
My list has 22 casts, get on my level.
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IW player here. I love the new releases. Glad CSM got a slick reboot rather than Primarised. Spikes are cool.
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>>67227022
Lack of social interaction in their day to day lives leading to frustrations they vent at anonymous people online to feel justified in said frustrations.
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I'm about to buy 20 baneblades.
Dissuade me.
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>>67227053
I hear it talked about in listbuilding and that's it
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>>67227002
It's even more stinging because I can't actually have any fucking artillery while playing as a group of wasp-autists who's entire fucking being is dedicated to "the siege". How can I besiege without artillery?
Even deathguard get artillery.
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>>67226682
Scourge heads with daughter of khaine hair
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>>67226892
What? Best daemon prince in the game without relic gear. Access to more spells than any other single codex is a great reason to play TS. Tzaangors are useful and its definitely worth running at least one unit of 20 or more. Combine with Tzeentch daemons to have many good troop options so you have screens for your princes and or sorcerers to sling enough mind bullets to melt anything in 24 inches.
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>>67227075

Have fun anon
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>>67227060
No IW players actually hate spikes, that's just falseflagging and strawmanning.
I like them too. I'm just glad that they didn't turn out like the raptors.
>>67227078
Yeah, it sucks. I just ended up adding some PBCs and Drones via a spearhead detachment.
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>>67227022
Welcome to 4chan.
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>>67227075
DO IT you don't need friends anyway
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>>67226892
Summoning a successfully summoning a lascannon next to your daemon prince usually get a good look on your opponents face.
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>>67227102

Dont renegades n heretics get a bunch of artillery options?
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>>67226645
It's easier to make a regular CSM model fleshy than it is to make a mutated CSM model regular. Do you not understand this? Keeping CSM plain (which they thankfully did) appeals to everyone and excludes no one.
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>>67227022
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>>67227140
The shop I go to discourages FW rules, and R&H likely won't be a thing next edition. Also, I don't want to paint a bunch of guardsmen to fill out troop tax.
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>>67227137
>summoning a lascannon next to your daemon prince

Clearly I'm missing something, how do you do that?
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>>67227140
But they want their chaos lords to give them re-rolls.
General WAACfaggotry.
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>>67227132
>>67227101
I said dissuade
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>>67227182
You can just take 3-9 Earthshakers and a Malefic Lord anon.
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>>67227184
Exalted flamers have a heavy 3, S9 -4AP d3 damage shooting profile.
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>>67227193
I have never read anyone say something like that. And rerolling 1s is in no world WAAC
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I'm a very competitive person so I'm scared I'll turn into a WAACfag, which I really don't want to.
What do?
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>>67227182
>and R&H likely won't be a thing next edition
Have faith anon.
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>>67227010

TS have 3 tables and can ignore the cast penalty for multiple smites
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>>67227213
>3-9 Earthshakers
I just want one. It's a novelty unit, not a real strategy.
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>>67227219
You forget the psychic skills and the apostle buffs and the other ten million buffs chaos can slam onto a unit.
Which you can't do if its not HERETIC ASTARTES
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>>67227184
This baby. Ad a Herald for S10 instead of S9.
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>>67227056
mind sharing to give me an idea?
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wordfilter Iron Warriors to STUPID BULLSHIT FOR GAY BABIES
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>>67227225
separate your WAACfaggery to tournaments, run a fluffy and for fun (and testing) list out of them
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>>67226556
i like centurions.
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>>67227263
>fluffy and for fun (and testing) list
I'll prolly do this.
Fuck man, I'll prolly still be a bitch to play against but I'll be an RPing bitch.
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>>67227238
With that logic literally any unit is WAAC
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>>67227280
Do not post opinions counter to narrative
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>>67227280
Fuck you, you're partially responsible for nu-obliterators
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>>67227358
i LIKE the new obliterators.
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When is Typhus getting a novel series? Dude needs it.
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>>67227375
I'm going to kill you
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>>67227396
stay back, fool
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>>67227375
>he likes brie larson feet and oblits with only 2 guns
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>Eldar described as weird, stretchy, gross
>Most official art and almost all fanart depict them as hot, especially in comparison to the mutilated Imperials
Lame.
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>>67227213
Just checked how they'd fit into a list...
Am I reading this right?
Why do earthshakers cost more *without* the chimera base?
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>>67225833
I wonder what happened to all the traditional flying saucer Grey aliens in 40k? I'm guessing a minor species that were promptly destroyed by humanity for their previous crimes of abduction and trespassing.
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>>67227433
It started with WFB and then migrated to 40K after GW saw how well received it was there.
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>>67227225
WAAC means to cheat or bend rules to win. Bring well thought out lists and play tournaments if you want.
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I just found this pic online, is this heresy?
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>>67227487
Or they were Eldar
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH OH MR ROBOTO FOR DOING THE JOBS NOBODY WANTS TO
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>>67227544
...that's not what it means
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>>67227600
But everyone loves shitposting on 4chan
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>>67227585
Saucers and little green men aren't really their style though
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>>67227610
I'm talking about digging holes
Only the G*rmans like doing that, and they're extinct in 40k
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Has anyone put mk2 or mk3 helmets on primaries bodies?

How did it turn out? Post pics
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>>67227694
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>>67226892
The best psychic phase and casters in the game helps out a lot.
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>>67227433
Lots of eldar art has them looking creepy and inhuman. Most vodex art, even. I don't think there's a single attractive eldar in current codices.
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>>67226892
you play them with Tzeentch demons
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Anyone got the daemon killteam stuff? Is good?
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>>67227717
It's never official, it's just fanon to make them cutesy space elves. And it's all Macha's fault
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>>67225617
>at least then you could tell the difference between the two besides the autism El'Johnson had

El'J also had incredible paranoia problems, like he literally did not trust his men at all. He literally did not tell them anything that they did not absolutely need to know - which meant that nobody ever had the full picture of what was going on. While strategic security is important, so is a unified vision and comprehension of your plan, and the Lion was so paranoid that he greatly inhibited the latter and induced his paranoia into his entire Legion in doing so.

Luthers fall was as much a failing of the Lion as it was of Luther. Yes, the Lion did not force him to fall - but he made it very easy for him - physically, mentally, and emotionally - to do so.
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>>67227749
NOOOO NOT MY SHADE BOTTLES!
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>>67227747
How would that even work, when they have no weapon options and 90% of them are melee-only
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>>67227788
Easy, just buy the models, wargear not needed.
Either way they’re out in WD this month.
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>>67227775
>He literally did not tell them anything that they did not absolutely need to know
I thought that was just his autism at work. Like he only cared about instructing them on how to dot heir job and didn't even stop to think about treating them as thinking people.
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>>67227812
I mean gameplay-wise
Sounds extremely boring
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>>67227225
>be competitive
>face an absolute retard
>table him during his turn 1
>get called a waac
I asume people that scream waac are just retards that think a flamer is a good weapon
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how do I anti-horde as CSM
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>>67227759
Macha is a pearl!
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>>67227850
I want flamers to be a good weapon.
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>>67227820
Depends if it’s mixed or not.
A mixed team of daemons would have to focus on finding synergy to claim victory.
Tzeentch to shoot people in the open and force them in to cover. Nurgle to push objectives. Slaanesh chases backline snipers. Khorne creeps forward to try and get that killing blow.
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>>67227877
Squad of 10 noise marines/chosen with maximum combi weapons and chain axes with daemon prince support.
Prescience
Endless cacophony
Veterans of the long war
Shoot shoot and charge
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>>67227903
>looks at 30+ models with flamers
I fucking hate 8land edition
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>>67226168
Holy shit greenstuffing all that armor must have been a pain in the dick

results are phenomenal though
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>>67227997
10" range and a price drop, it's all they need
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>>67227877
Havocs, zerkers if you think you can charge them first.
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>>67227997
>you roll to hit like normal, no modifiers allowed but rerolls are ok.
>ignores overwatch penalty
>number of shots equal to the number of models in the target unit within range
R8
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>>67228026
>fuck melee
Why not just give it bonus against hordes instead?
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>>67228026
The d6 is what makes it bad. Costing more than a Storm Bolter is just fucking the gun in the ass
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>>67228052
Bad.
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>>67228082
This
If it absolutely must be randomized, make it 3+d3
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>>67228068
Yes fuck melee, literally the point of flamers

>>67228082
D6 isn't all that bad but +d3 for every 10 models in a unit couldn't hurt
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>>67228068
>Assault d6 S4 AP0 D1
>fucking melee
Even costing 0 with range 10” I doubt the swinging fuck would be worth it
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>>67228082
The range increase would be better. If you could drop in squads with flamers you would see people do it all the time. GSC make it work
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>>67228118
That's because GSC can take 20 of them in one unit for 1 point each.
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>>67228118
Tzeentch does it to
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>>67227444
I'm not leaving until someone explains to me why an immobile earthshaker costs more points than a basilisk.
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>>67228138
I don't take full squads. Small squads or 10 man work better for how I use them. Also, they are only 6" range and strength 3. What is important being able to deliver them. Flamers of Tzeentch are another good example since they can deepstrike and still be in range.
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>>67227078
Iron warriors need basilisks and Defilers to get good again.
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>>67228202
Because FW phoned in the 8th index rules that they didn't give a shit about with barely any communication with the rules team in charge of actual 40k. Stop using FW shit.
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Is there a worse thing than trying to scrape moldlines off of metal minis
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>>67228249
Probably don't want to have anymore of those kits made so they can keep making dreadnoughts and a few other things that actually sell
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>>67228265
Scraping moldlines off of finecast
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>>67228283
At least you can actually do that
Metal models tend to have moldlines that are actually somehow lower than the area around them
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>>67228265
Getting metal components to mate with plastic
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>>67228265
Trying to scrape mould out of my bellybutton
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>>67228265
>2019
>using metal minis
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>>67228311
Show me the plastic or resin warsmith then
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>>67228311
I'll do anything for conversion parts
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This dude >>67227930 got the Daemon Rules for Killteam, but not the Blood Raven rules. Does someone here have them?
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>>67228327
Use plastic models and bits and convert it with a bit of greenstuff, nigger. It's not even that unique. It's a bland fucking marine with a servo-arm.
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>>67228366
Find me one other space marine model with a claw like his. Or a robotic leg with mark vi armor.
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>>67228366
That's just flat-out wrong. There isn't even an argument to be made against you other than "you are incorrect".
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>>67228025

Not as much as youd think
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>>67228495
Those look great. No chance there's any other aspects done like that?
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Daemons KT rules for interested

https://imgur.com/a/0SOtjWh
https://imgur.com/a/0SOtjWh
https://imgur.com/a/0SOtjWh
https://imgur.com/a/0SOtjWh
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>>67228577
>>67228577
>>67228577
New
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>>67226212
BT and Flash Tearers have special rules?
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>>67226114
What’s wrong with the new ones?
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>>67228118
>unit of 20
>hand flames S3
>1 point
>need 3CP to even do it



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